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707 comments

I GOT A GREASED UP YODA DOLL SHOVED UP MY ASS! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7328963)

GO LINUX!

A nifty little visualization of a wind tunnel... (5, Interesting)

tcopeland (32225) | more than 10 years ago | (#7328965)

...can be found here [mit.edu] .

Fair warning - the linked-to page contains an applet, so be prepared for the usual "computer freezes for 10 seconds" effect if you're running Windows.

Kamikazi = "Divine Wind" (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7329116)

An evil wind blows out of this tunnel! [goatse.cx]

"Price Is Right" Announcer Rod Roddy Dead at age 6 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7328966)

Rod Roddy, the often flamboyant announcer of the hit TV game show "The Price is Right," has died at the age of 66. I'm sure everyone in the GNU/Linux community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his work, there's no denying his contributions to popular culture. Truly an American icon.

"Come on down! Your the next contestant on the Price is Right..." - Rod Roddy, 1937-2003

What does this matter if... (2, Insightful)

Polly_was_a_cracker (718522) | more than 10 years ago | (#7328970)

In space there is no friction to stop your inertia. Excellent waste of time research people.!

Re:What does this matter if... (5, Funny)

Doomrat (615771) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329034)

More to the point, there is no Starship Enterprise, freak.

Re:What does this matter if... (2, Insightful)

Polly_was_a_cracker (718522) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329053)

What do you mean? But I have seen it on the television... Matter of fact more then I have seen any of our space missions.. so what is real anyhow.

I could go on with this dribble but I will stop.

Re:What does this matter if... (1)

Doomrat (615771) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329145)

I stand by what I said. There is no Starship Enterprise. There are some Plastic Model Enterprises, and some CG Enterprises, but no actual starships.

Don't get me wrong - I love fiction and escapism, I just think that the line between it and reality should be kept blurred. When you start trying to work out real physical constraints of this stuff and then go to publish it, it sort of spoils the illusion.

Re:What does this matter if... (5, Funny)

squiggleslash (241428) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329180)

"The star ship is only two inches tall! Hahaha, a very clever deception indeed!"

I know it's an actual starship, it says so in the historical documents ;-)

Re:What does this matter if... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7329039)

Enterprise is designed to enter the atmosphere. It clearly has an aerodynamic shape, which would be unneccesary if it didn't have this purpose. Enterprise enters the atmosphere in several episodes.

Re:What does this matter if... (1)

Doomrat (615771) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329061)

Enterprise is designed to enter the atmosphere. It clearly has an aerodynamic shape, which would be unneccesary if it didn't have this purpose. Enterprise enters the atmosphere in several episodes.

Thanks. You've really convinced me that this is useful and intelligent research.

Re:What does this matter if... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7329162)

It is? I don't think so. There were only a few episodes (I can think of two episdoes of TNG, and then the ending battle in Generations) in which any of the Enterprise ships entered an atmosphere, and that was only for temporary skips through the upper atmosphere, during which the ship was difficult to control. And it's clearly not designed to land, since it doesn't have any stable contact points. When the saucer section "landed" in Generations, it was irrepairably damaged. You're probably thinking about Voyager. It fared much better in its atmospheric encounters.

I think the sleek shape is more to make them look good, so that the Romulans didn't have the monopoly on cool ship designs.

Re:What does this matter if... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7329052)

You really should try having fun sometime.

It's great.

Re:What does this matter if... (2, Insightful)

PitaBred (632671) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329071)

Depends on whether you count all the hydrogen atoms and other random bits that actually fill up space. You wonder why they were comparing Mach 5 to Warp 5? There's a significant speed difference, but that's offset by the relative density of the surrounding matter.

Don't be a troll unless you have your information straight.

Re:What does this matter if... (1)

CFBMoo1 (157453) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329099)

What about nebula clouds? Granted its still space, but wouldn't there be some friction from the nebula gasses?

Re:What does this matter if... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7329139)

well actually in space there is friction to stop your inertia. just not on the scale as on earth with reletivly think desity air masses. anyways the article clearly said they were testing the operation of the wind tunnel and hte measuring equiptment.

so this allows it to happen and in the procces gives the posability to get publicity out of to boot. this would have been no different if they used an apple instead of the enterprise. except it wouldn't have hit slashdot or some other outlets.

Re:What does this matter if... (1, Insightful)

Yenhsrav_Keviv (694947) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329157)

No friction in space? What are you talking about? There's not atmosphere as we know it in space, but there still are tons of atoms and other little particles floating around that'll cause friction.....altho there will be significantly less friction in space than in the earth's atmosphere.

gay as hell (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7328972)

you dirty fruits - warp speed ahead

doesnt this belong... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7328975)

.. in the Humour Section?

Good to know... (5, Funny)

Squeebee (719115) | more than 10 years ago | (#7328977)

I was planning to use a scale model of the Enterprise as a hood ornament for my SR-71 Blackbird.

How useless (-1, Flamebait)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 10 years ago | (#7328978)

If they have that much time on their hands, I have some important stuff they can work on... sheeesh

Re:How useless (4, Interesting)

thegrommit (13025) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329054)

If they have that much time on their hands, I have some important stuff they can work on... sheeesh

Like measuring how aerodynamic your self righteous ego is? Flame aside, researchers deserve a bit of fun too. Random thoughts and experiments often bring new insights.

Re:How useless (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7329058)

I've learned the most during my research "play" sessions really...

Re:How useless (5, Insightful)

Planesdragon (210349) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329067)

Oh, come on, FK. You know as well as I do that there are innumerable reasons to allow something like this to be done: Training, morale, fostering intellectual curiosity, testing equipment, and probably a few more.

Like, oh, boosting PR for the site, to attract new personnel. (Note the "what else we do" link at the bottom of the page.)

Re:How useless (1)

mamba-mamba (445365) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329143)

The test only ran for microsecends. Even if the wind-tunnel costs 1,000,000 per second, that's only a dollar per microsecond.

Lighten up.

MM
--

Thank goodness the Enterprise is aerodynamic. (5, Funny)

gpinzone (531794) | more than 10 years ago | (#7328979)

All that wind resistance in space could have meant certain doom for the crew!

Re:Thank goodness the Enterprise is aerodynamic. (4, Interesting)

jonabbey (2498) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329079)

Well, if you read the article, they do point out that they are using the shockwaves resulting from mach speeds in air as a speculative analogy to the shockwaves resulting from warp speeds in space.

Now obviously Einstein showed everyone that that kind of analogy is not likely to be worth a bowl of warm spit, even after you get past the impossible part, but this sort of thing is still way unnecessarily cool, and precisely the sort of ilk I think we geeks should be encouraging.

Re:Thank goodness the Enterprise is aerodynamic. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7329131)

but this sort of thing is still way unnecessarily cool, and precisely the sort of ilk I think we geeks should be encouraging.

Shouldn't we encourage girls to date us?

Oh wait, since performing aerodynamic tests on an Enterprise model is cool, we'll impress them that way. Kewl.

Good thing they did that. (1)

sebi (152185) | more than 10 years ago | (#7328980)

We all know how important low wind-resistance is in space-ships. Because otherwise the saucer-section of the Enterprise might not have crashed quite as spectacularly in that one film where it did.

VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7328981)

It has come to my attention that you completely inhale the shit out of goatse's ass. Read on for more about this fascinating topic.

The world went into shock a few weeks ago when goatse.info [goatse.info] reported the results of a study which concluded that inhaling shit is a very dangerous pastime, one that no one is advised to take up. Eventually, everyone adapted to the new state of affairs and began inhaling other things. Almost everyone, that is. But not you! According to my records, you still inhale shit!

Why?! What the fuck is wrong with you?!

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sigh.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7328985)

from the to-much-spare-time dept.

Taco is pushing 30 years old, and apparently still doesn't understand the difference between "to" and "too".

Re:sigh.... (2, Funny)

cybermace5 (446439) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329124)

Ah, but you misunderstand. What CmdrTaco was really trying to say was "To much spare time!"

Imagine it as a sort of toast to slacking.

*clank of Mountain Dew cans*

mirror if necessary (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7328988)

Here it is, complete with pictures. mod it up if the server dies [myby.co.uk]

Re:mirror if necessary (1)

johndoesovich (691840) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329070)

Re:mirror if necessary (1)

Acidic_Diarrhea (641390) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329125)

Google does not cache images. Notice how all of those images are still coming from www.physics.uq.edu.au? The parent to which you replied noted that the mirror he was providing was "with images."

I am not sure that this server is being slashdotted, it seems to be fine for me, BUT in the future if a page has many images and the server is dying a slow death, a google cache of the page does not help.

A Google cache does help in the case where the main brunt of the page is simple text.

Well, DUH! (-1, Offtopic)

dillon_rinker (17944) | more than 10 years ago | (#7328989)

The WHOLE POINT of "Enterprise" is that they're flying the first starship capable of Warp 5.

Re:Well, DUH! (1)

Have Blue (616) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329040)

But they tested the later Enterprise model, which is capable of much greater speeds.

Re:Well, DUH! (1)

Spuds (8660) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329041)

Not that Enterprise. We are talking about the NCC 1701 (no stinking A, B, C, D, or E)

Johnathan Feruken Conspiracy !!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7328994)

To Whom It May Concern (other than myself):

Hi. I have been a huge fan of cereals of all kinds for my whole life. Sometimes I eat it for all three meals of the day, or live on it exclusively for weeks, or put it in my underpants to keep me feeling fresh (and also as an emergency back-up snack). I cereasly love it.

I am especially fond of a lot of your cereals like Boo Berry and Trix and Chex and Lucky Charms and Cookie Crisp. My absolute favorite is Fruity Pebbles though, which I believe is a Post cereal. Maybe you guys should make something that tastes like Fruity Pebbles except manages not to have Fred Flintstone's ugly mug all over the box. Yabba Dabba Eww. Anyway, my point is that I like a lot of your cereals and so I am personally concerned with their condition. And, quite frankly, lately I've been a bit worried.

Let's start with my favorite cereal of yours - Boo Berry. I love Boo Berry... at least I think I do... actually, I know it used to be my favorite cereal but I haven't had any in years so I've kind of forgotten what it tastes like - because it's not in any stores! No stores in my area carry it. I checked on your website and apparently you still make it; you even offer it for sale. Unfortunately I can't justify buying it for the $6.74 for a twelve ounce box price. You do offer buying it in a case instead of a four pack, which would drop the price to $4.71 a box, but that is still unreasonable and would also require me to spend an entire week's pay on a large shipment of haunted cereal. My girlfriend would kill me (if I didn't overdose on blue food coloring first).

I think I have a solution to this dilemma. I know you can't force any businesses to carry your cereals and I know that you can't afford to sell them direct for less than $4.71 and still have money left over to pay for upkeep on Count Chocula's castle, hiring someone to build 400 mind-numbing advertisements disguised as crappy kids games for youruleschool.com, and keep your CEOs rolling in golden Kix. So here's what you should do - open up your own stores all across the country. You've already got one in Mall-of-America, now put one in every mall in America. Even if you don't sell much cereal (and you'd sell a lot, trust me) it would be great advertising. You can sell t-shirts with nifty slogans like "Frosted Wheaties: When You're Too Damn Lazy To Put Sugar On Your Own Wheaties!" or "Honey Nut Chex: It Rhymes With 'Funny Butt Sex' For A Reason!" and other stuff which is even more great advertising plus it makes money up front. I can see it now, picture a young child in the mall with its mother...

YOUNG CHILD: Mommy! Mommy! Look at all the pretty colored cereal!

MOTHER: Oh Honey, you know cereals like that are just a result of the global dentist/cereal/porn conspiracy, we've been through this a million times...

YOUNG CHILD: Awww...

MAN IN TRIX RABBIT SUIT comes out of the store.

MAN IN TRIX RABBIT SUIT: You know Ms. Averagemother, all of our cereals are fortified with titanium plating and deflector shi... er, essential vitamins and minerals; and they are a part of this complete breakfast.

MAN IN TRIX RABBIT SUIT whips out a complete breakfast on a tray.

MOTHER: Well... I guess a few minutes couldn't hurt...

YOUNG CHILD: Gee, thanks mom!

YOUNG CHILD runs in followed slowly by MOTHER. Group of scantily clad dentists appears and drags MOTHER into back room. YOUNG CHILD transforms into a cartoon and spends eternity trying to steal Lucky's Charms and torturing the Trix Rabbit by hogging the cereal.

Now, on to my next suggestion. You need to do something about Cheerios. Really, they're awful. Yes they are good for my heart, but this is overshadowed by the fact that they taste like my butt.

On the other hand, a cereal that already tastes great is Lucky Charms. I would like you to address some concerns I have about the marshmallows, though. I remember that when I was a lad, there were only five different marshmallows in Lucky Charms: pink hearts, yellow moons, orange stars, green clovers, and blue diamonds. I could find at least a tenuous reason for all those symbols to be 'lucky charms' other than the pink hearts. What is so lucky about a pink heart? And by messing with the marshmallows you've only made the cereal even more unlucky overall. Purple horseshoes were a really great addition, good color choice and they are lucky, but red balloons? Anyway, rather than discuss each marshmallow change in the cereal's history individually, let's look at the marshmallow situation currently:

1. Shooting star. You've modified the orange stars and changed them into shooting stars. I can get into this. Shooting stars are way lucky. Good move.

2 and 3. Pot o' gold and rainbow. It seems redundant to me to have a raindow and the pot o' gold which one finds at the end of it. One of these should be dismissed with prejudice.

4. Red balloon. Ugh. Sad movie, sadder marshmallow. Please explain to me why a red balloon is lucky. You can't - because they aren't. Remove this shit from my cereal and fire the jackass who thought it was a good idea.

5. Lucky's hat. You changed the four-leaf clover into some midget's out of fashion hat. I realize how cool it is that you guys have the technology now to make two-tone marshmallows, but just because you can doesn't mean you should. Change this back to the clover.

6. Pink heart. This one is hard to call. I guess it should stay given that it's the only one of the original four marshmallows left, and I guess it's lucky to have a heart because otherwise you'd need to pump your blood manually which would be awfully dull and very time consuming.

7. Purple horseshoe. The best one in the box.

8. Blue moon. Not bad in and of itself, but there was no need to combine the blue diamond and yellow moon into this single marshmallow. Why did you bother? To make room in the marshmallow factory for the 'red balloon' machine? Come on.

So, for maximum luckiness, this is how Lucky Charms should be. Shooting stars, rainbows (or pots o' gold, but I like rainbows better because they remind me of homos), green clovers, pink hearts, purple horseshoes, yellow moons, and blue diamonds. This would also reduce the total number of different marshmallow types from eight to seven - which is a far luckier number.

Hey, Trix is too sweet and pointy now. I remember it being tasty and pleasantly round at one point. Fix my Trix you dix.

And lastly, I feel I have to bring up a subject that may be hard for you to discuss. We need to talk about what happened to some of your spokespeople.

For instance, the current spokesman for Cinnamon Toast Crunch is Wendell the baker (why making cinnamon toast requires a baker is a question I won't even bring up right now). I clearly remember two other bakers, Bob and a chap with the unfortunate name of Quello, helping Wendell out (why making cinnamon toast required three bakers is another question I won't even bring up right now). Now they are gone. What happened to them? My theory is that Wendell collaborated with someone in your company to have them rubbed out so he could get a large raise and be given the chance to market his inferior French Toast Crunch. But maybe it's something more innocent than that, like they were run over by an out of control cookie cop truck, ground up, and made into delicious cinnamon-sugary sprinkles.

Speaking of cookie cop trucks, Cookie Crisp was once sold by a crafty crook, his canine companion, and a cookie cop who never failed to capture the chocolate chip crazed criminals. Now only Chip the cookie dog remains, and he has apparently given up his life of crime and become a big silly wussbag. I am disturbed by the lack of information about what happened to the other two. Was the crook arrested? If so, why is the dog still free? If he was let off on the basis of being a dog, why did the cop throw him in jail with his master in the commercials? What happened to the cop? Is he still on the force? Why isn't he after snickerdoodle thieves or something?

Those are the ones I've personally noticed go missing, but I've talked to some people inside your organization and they had disturbing news. A lot of names were mentioned: Cheeri O'Leary, Ice Cream Jones, Mr. Wonderfull, Waldo the wizard, Major Jet... the list goes on and on.

Please explain these disappearances or I may be forced to contact the authorities.

Your biggest fan,

Johnathan Feruken

P.S. Hey, whatthefuck is up with Kaboom, anyway? That's some scary crap!

wroom wroom (1)

jszep (220212) | more than 10 years ago | (#7328995)

I mean, hey, the thing can do warp 5, right?

mach 5 (2, Insightful)

1eyedhive (664431) | more than 10 years ago | (#7328996)

...but can it do warp 5? not too shabby, kudos to Walter Matthew Jefferies for a great design, may he rest in peace.

Re:mach 5 (4, Insightful)

DG (989) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329060)

Say what you want about Star Trek in general, but the design of the "movie" Entreprise is one of the prettiest, most graceful vehicles ever built.

Something that beautiful deserves to get built, someday.

DG

Re:mach 5 (3, Funny)

pclminion (145572) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329159)

He may rest in peace, but the model ship rests in pieces.

Last time i checked (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7329000)

Aerodynamics don't matter in space

Eh? (1)

Quixote (154172) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329001)

What's mach 5, like warp 0.000001 ?

Re:Eh? (2, Informative)

kalidasa (577403) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329048)

Mach 1 at sea level is 0.0000001135 c. Warp 1 is conventionally assumed to be c.

Re:Eh? (4, Informative)

proj_2501 (78149) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329080)

Warp 1 is stated to be c in both the TOS and TNG warp scales in the Star Trek TNG Technical Manual.

After that the warp scales are two divergent wacky exponential sawtooth things.

Re:Eh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7329153)

I looked it up in my copy of the TNG Technical Manual and on page 164 is does state that Warp 1 = c.

its good to know... (2, Funny)

nizo (81281) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329002)

It is good to know that a fictitious ship designed to operate in a vacuum in a fictitious universe can handle mach 5 winds..... no really it is.

Re:its good to know... (1, Offtopic)

Kombat (93720) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329032)

Despite your judicious use of the word "fictitious," you still neglected to apply it preceding "vacuum," since space is, of course, not a perfect vacuum.

Scotty (1)

snipingkills (250057) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329011)

Does this mean that Scotty had more insight than Kirk in pushing the N.C.C 1701 Enterprise to the limits?

Re:Scotty (4, Funny)

GMontag (42283) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329081)

Of course! Scotty is an Engineer and Kirk is just management, silly.

Amazing (-1, Flamebait)

CanadaDave (544515) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329013)

What an excellent use of research dollars.

Re:Amazing (4, Funny)

rjelks (635588) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329173)

You damn green-blooded vulcans are always trying to hold us humans back.

Morons. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7329014)

Who the hell cares what it can do in a wind tunnel? A wind tunnel means there is an atmosphere, which there isn't in space. This makes no sense and is a waste of time. Morons.

Re:Morons. (2, Insightful)

PitaBred (632671) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329155)

Read the other comments. Space isn't a complete vacuum. There is actually a significant amount of hydrogen in outer space, which becomes a problem when you're traveling at any appreciable fraction of the speed of light.

Simple... (5, Funny)

nebaz (453974) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329015)

We all know that simply rerouting the EPS conduit to emit a low level anti-tachyon beam will nullify any damage space junk will create.

Re:Simple... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7329103)

I thought you just had to reverse the polarity...

Re:Simple... (4, Funny)

hellfire (86129) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329129)

But not if the space junk is actually a highly evolved space-dwelling creature which was currently unknown before and cannot be detected with sensors. If that's the case, they'll need to uncouple the Heisenberg compensator.

Re:Simple... (1)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329161)

Just like blowing up a balloon!

Of course!

Re:Simple... (2, Funny)

bev_tech_rob (313485) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329168)

Or just boost the output of the navigational deflector....

Re:Simple... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7329170)

you forgot to include reversing the polarity of something, and the deflector dish and something more dirrectly connected to the warp engine. NOW WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!

definitions? (4, Funny)

flynt (248848) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329017)

How is ending up broken into a dozen pieces considered doing "suprisingly well"???

Re:definitions? (1)

mamba-mamba (445365) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329077)

It only broke up after a simulated Space Junk Collision Event (SJCE).

Didn't you read the article?

MM
--

Re:definitions? (1)

webslacker (15723) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329107)

Let's see YOU make it to mach 5!

Re:definitions? (1)

fudgefactor7 (581449) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329171)

And considering the size of the space junk (about 1/3 the length of the whole ship (gum foil wrapper)) and that the ship isn't in a trillion pieces but rather remained in only a few, that's not too shabby. Although, the "real" Enterprise would have suffered a cascade failure of the warp core contrainment and --well-- that would be that. All things considered, I think that plastic model did pretty darned well.

Still a major waste of money to test, though.

Enterprise Sucks ... Berman can rot in Hell!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7329025)

TOS R0XX0rzs my S0XX0rzs

foot icon?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7329027)

Where's the foot icon?

funding (1)

mrsev (664367) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329028)

They got funding for this?

Then again if I had a mach 5 wind tunnel there would be no end of things that I would try inside.

Re:funding (3, Funny)

samhalliday (653858) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329084)

Then again if I had a mach 5 wind tunnel there would be no end of things that I would try inside.

well, id think not... mach 5 biting at your "end" is gotta burn something off!

OMG: mrsev Dead at 54 (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7329109)

Mrsev was found dead in his mach 5 wind tunnel, pants around his ankles, member in his hand.
We are going to Miss Mrsev. He was truly a Slashdot Icon, being the first person to pleasure himself at Mach 5.

Space Debris . . . (3, Funny)

Dausha (546002) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329029)

It appears that the space debris is a gum wrapper. This demonstrates that giant space aliens should be tidy when travelling lest their rubbish destroy our mission "to boldly go where no man has gone before."

So NASA turns into SF? (1)

DAldredge (2353) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329126)

So I guess this is proof that NASA turns into Star Fleet?

What (0, Offtopic)

omar.sahal (687649) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329033)

What a waste of time don't these science geeks have better things to do with there time. Like reading slashdot 15 times a day

Page is over 3 years old (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7329035)

<!--This file created 3/29/00 9:54 AM by Claris Home Page version 3.0-->

Nice to see some up-to-date stuff here on Slashdot.

Re:Page is over 3 years old (0, Offtopic)

Polly_was_a_cracker (718522) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329102)

ahahahahahahahahah. Noted.

My God, Man! (1)

nastro (32421) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329037)

They've gone plaid!

With pocket protectors, to boot!

Re:My God, Man! (0)

tonyMontana69 (712472) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329049)

"man, we ain't found shit

Last picture (4, Funny)

British (51765) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329038)

I really guess "She canna take it anymore!"

Bah! (4, Funny)

DrEldarion (114072) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329046)

I want to see them try this with the Borg cube.

Its a trap! (5, Funny)

chobee (555901) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329055)

This is like an uber-geek/nerd role call.

Here. (1)

Polly_was_a_cracker (718522) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329172)

*raises hand*

Mach 5? pffft.... (4, Funny)

PissingInTheWind (573929) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329057)

5 times the speed of sound is just about 0.0005% of the speed of light. That's not a conslusive test, it's like doing a car crash test at a speed of around 5 millimeters per hour.

I hope they realize they still have a *lot* of work to do.

Re:Mach 5? pffft.... (4, Funny)

broller (74249) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329146)

5 times the speed of sound is just about 0.0005% of the speed of light.

Duh, it was a SCALE MODEL. The real one has survived a lot more than Mach 5. Sheesh!

Oh, and how often do you think the real Enterprise travels at the speed of light in an atomosphere?

Not a Good Test (1, Insightful)

ClubStew (113954) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329068)

Besides the fact that there is next to nothing massive in space to cause resistence, Warp is closer to surfing where the starship doesn't actually move relative to space/time (at least from what I gather a long time about when I read the "manual"). It's like catching a major wave and riding it.

What a waste of time.

I smell a contender (1)

jandrese (485) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329074)

What's this? I smell a contender for the next round of IgNobel prizes.

WTF? They only tested NCC-1701A! (5, Interesting)

BenJeremy (181303) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329078)

Now the NCC-1701D whoulc have been the one to test, after all, we know it actually made planetfall.

Did they use containment forcefields in the test?

How did the plasma conduits hold up to the stress?

(Questions Geeks REALLY want to know!)

Star Trek OS (5, Funny)

Reverend528 (585549) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329082)

For a second I misread it and thought that the article would be about Star Trek OS, Enterprise Edition running on a Mach 5 Microkernel. Imagine my disappointment.

Fail them! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7329085)

Mach 5 in atmosphere is equal to Warp 5 in a vacuum? And no explanation of this idiocy to be found anywhere. If there was some arguable explanation, no matter how unfathomable, I might give this nonsense some weight. What did we learn? Absolutely nothing!

Mach 5 wind tunnel?...... (3, Funny)

ratfynk (456467) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329087)

that blows me away...sorry

Off-Topic (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7329088)

This story lacks SCO, M$ and USA. Why was it passed?

Enterprise (1)

FrostedWheat (172733) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329089)

One wonders how much better the 'new' (old?) Enterprise would have done. It seems more streamlined. Voyager could probably beat them all tho.

*realises what he's talking about*

I'll get my coat...

How about the Borg cube? (1)

FrankieBoy (452356) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329091)

As long as they're testing non-aerodynamically-designed vehicles they should try the cube. They'll probably get just as useless results. As pointed out in other posts the Enterprise was not designed to enter the atmosphere. Or was it? According to Gene Roddenberry the original ship was designed to land on planets but the budget was too thin for the special effects, that's why the Transporter was added. In fact the Enterprise did in fact enter the atmosphere of Earth in TOS. IT also entered the atmosphere of an alien planet in one of the movies with not-so-great results (boom). So maybe these wind-tunnel tests will show that Gene was once again ahead of his time.

If you're going to do a REAL test... (1)

the_skywise (189793) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329092)

You need to test the old round nacelles along with the newer flat nacelle styles.

Sheesh...

"It's worse than that... (1)

Andy_R (114137) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329095)

...it's Physics, Jim"

from the lyrics of "Star Trekkin'" by The Firm.

Think before you post... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7329132)

...cause you're starting to sound stupid.

Two comments from /.'ers:

(1) Yeah, but there's no atmosphere in space.

No sh**. They acknowledge that in the second paragraph of their description and then proceed to suggest that mach 5 in an atmosphere may be similar to warp 5 in a vacuum (where you are pushing against the fabric of space). This isn't a scientific journal -- it's just some fun they're having after doing real work.

(2) What a waste of time.

This from the first couple dozen posters -- who really is wasting their time: the kids who did the experiment in an afternoon, or the /.'ers who check this website every 15 minutes, every day, for the rest of their lives?

Get a life.

Obligatory retort: give them a break! (5, Insightful)

RobertB-DC (622190) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329134)

Allow me to begin the second phase of stock Slashdot comments. Phase I has already taken place: "what a waste of taxpayer/foundation/whatever dollars!" Phase II begins now:

Lighten up! It is clear from a very quick look at the rest of the site that the "Enterprise" simulation is just a fun application of some very serious science. It's clear that no special apparatuses (apparati?) were constructed to provide a real simulation of the Enterprise -- in fact, it's pretty obvious that the model used came out of a cereal box, or something.

Day in and day out, it looks like these guys are engaged in cutting-edge wind tunnel science, testing object against forces so strong, they can only be simulated for tiny fractions of a second. This means that someone spends hours setting up everything within rigorous parameters, then pushes a button. "Bam!", and it's over. If the object under test was mispositioned by a fraction of a millimeter, the team gets to do it all over again.

Once -- just once -- they'd like to have a chance to do something fun with the equipment. Someone has an old Enterprise model (actually, it may be from a snow globe). After a long day (probably unpaid) of testing the frontiers of science and boredom, they load up the (already warmed up) machine and have a little fun.

Thanks to the 'net, we get to share their fun. And in another few decades, we may get to enjoy the results of their hard work when we book that vacation on Luna.

This is pretty wild... (4, Funny)

DarkSarin (651985) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329150)

I personally find this great. After all, I know that's exactly what I would do if I had a wind tunnel. I would also be testing the aerodynamic properties of the Millenium Falcon (which was designed for atmospheric travel), and numerous other fictitious "space ships". I would probably also test aluminum cans, coke bottles, penguins (after all I want to know how fast a penguin can go, having played too much tux racer), and numerous other objects.

Of course, this is the exact reason no one wants to give me access to a wind tunnel! I'd probably break it.

So... (1)

Universal Nerd (579391) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329151)

Scotty was right after all!

"I canna do that capt'n, she's gonna be ripped apart!"

Atmospheric Rentry Mistatement (2, Informative)

Jedi Holocron (225191) | more than 10 years ago | (#7329158)

But the Enterprise isn't designed to enter an atmosphere??

Very true!


Very wrong! The saucer section of the Enterprise was designed for rentry and planetside landing.

Okay, now I've shown my colors...forgive me.
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