Beta

Slashdot: News for Nerds

×

Welcome to the Slashdot Beta site -- learn more here. Use the link in the footer or click here to return to the Classic version of Slashdot.

Thank you!

Before you choose to head back to the Classic look of the site, we'd appreciate it if you share your thoughts on the Beta; your feedback is what drives our ongoing development.

Beta is different and we value you taking the time to try it out. Please take a look at the changes we've made in Beta and  learn more about it. Thanks for reading, and for making the site better!

Apple Releases Security and Xcode Updates

pudge posted more than 10 years ago | from the aw-i-thought-my-computer-was-perfect-how-it-was dept.

OS X 75

optikz writes "A security update is available in Software Update. 'Security Update 2003-11-04 addresses a potential vulnerability with the Terminal application in Mac OS X v10.3 and Mac OS X Server v10.3 that could allow unauthorized access to a system.'" sandrift writes "Software Update just popped up with Xcode Update 2003-11-03" Apple notes that "The Xcode update addresses an issue in the Xcode IDE that could potentially lead to data corruption or the loss of files particularly when source files contain illegal characters." Apple does not note, however, that Software Update will attempt to quit Terminal.app when installing the Security Update.

cancel ×

75 comments

Mac users shouldn't be using command line away.. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7391358)

They should point and click away with their supplied one button (crippled) mouse.

Re:Mac users shouldn't be using command line away. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7391558)

That's why they use the Terminal; cause the "one button (crippled) mouse" is useless.

Re:Mac users shouldn't be using command line away. (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7391661)

Remember, kiddies: The more mouse buttons you have, the bigger your penis is!!!

Re:Mac users shouldn't be using command line away. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7392480)

Mac users shouldn't be using THE command line aNYway. Nice grammer f*cker.

fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7391362)

damn it!

No 10.2? (4, Funny)

Otter (3800) | more than 10 years ago | (#7391375)

Security Update 2003-11-04 addresses a potential vulnerability with the Terminal application in Mac OS X v10.3 and Mac OS X Server v10.3...

What? They're not issuing an update for 10.0 or 10.1? It's a plot to force Mac users to upgrade! Apple is worse than Microsoft! Worse than Red Hat! That's why they'll never Succeed In The Enterprise!

OK, maybe not worse than Red Hat.

Re:No 10.2? (1, Insightful)

gooru (592512) | more than 10 years ago | (#7391524)

Perhaps the problem only exists under Panther and not under previous versions of OS X.

Re:No 10.2? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7391675)

or maybe he was being sarcastic? It's people like you who always ruin the punchline.

Better yet... (3, Funny)

AvantLegion (595806) | more than 10 years ago | (#7391988)

... you should've thrown a fit about the Xcode patch not being available on earlier OS X's. :)

Re:No 10.2? (1)

mrpuffypants (444598) | more than 10 years ago | (#7392531)

meh, i'm switching to SCO because of this. I can't take a company that hates its users as much as Apple does!

What about File Vault? (1)

Juntao (413315) | more than 10 years ago | (#7391382)

Wonder when they'll fix it.

Re:What about File Vault? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7391540)

Well, seeing as how it's not broken...

The only thing wrong with FileVault is that its target audience is too stupid to understand how it works.

Re:What about File Vault? (2, Funny)

valkraider (611225) | more than 10 years ago | (#7391584)

its target audience is too stupid to understand how it works

Isn't that true of maybe 75% of ALL computers?

Re:What about File Vault? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7391608)

Isn't that true of maybe 75% of ALL computers?

Closer to 100%

Re:What about File Vault? (1)

Carnildo (712617) | more than 10 years ago | (#7391719)

90%

Re:What about File Vault? (1)

thbbpt (657293) | more than 10 years ago | (#7394130)

You mean Vile Fault?

Re:What about File Vault? (1)

Juntao (413315) | more than 10 years ago | (#7392360)

> Well, seeing as how it's not broken...

It most certainly is. It corrupts many files. I've lost half of my preferences because of File Vault. It also has a hard time recovering unused space.

Use it for more than 20 seconds next time.

Re:What about File Vault? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7393033)

It corrupts many files.

Something often asserted, but never actually observed under controlled conditions.

I've lost half of my preferences because of File Vault.

You are aware, are you not, that FileVault has nothing to do with preferences? Perhaps there's something going in inside the NSUserDefaults runtime environment. Ever considered that?

It also has a hard time recovering unused space.

"A hard time?" Not sure what you mean by that.

Use it for more than 20 seconds next time.

I've been using it full-time since June on three different machines. During those early post-WWDC builds... woah. That was some bad stuff. But since about 7B74, it's worked flawlessly.

You, incidentally, are one of those people I was referring to when I said that the target audience is too stupid to understand how FileVault works.

Re:What about File Vault? (1)

gaelicwizard (687953) | more than 10 years ago | (#7394195)

I've lost half of my preferences because of File Vault.


You are aware, are you not, that FileVault has nothing to do with preferences? Perhaps there's something going in inside the NSUserDefaults runtime environment. Ever considered that?

You are aware, are you not, that preferences are stored in files?

I lost my whole home folder to file vault. Even if I am too stupid to use, it it is UNACCEPTABLE that this would EVER happen with an option that is available to ANYONE on the computer. Think about it. If it *might* have negative side-effects, then it needs to give a BIG F*CKING WARNING before even telling you that you may or may not encrypt your home folder.

Re:What about File Vault? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7395069)

You are aware, are you not, that preferences are stored in files?

Oh, well, that seals it.

Idiot.

I lost my whole home folder to file vault.

User error, no doubt.

Even if I am too stupid to use, it it is UNACCEPTABLE that this would EVER happen with an option that is available to ANYONE on the computer.

Yes. Computers should be unbreakable. The fact that they're not gives you the right--nay, the mandate--to complain righteously.

If it *might* have negative side-effects, then it needs to give a BIG F*CKING WARNING before even telling you that you may or may not encrypt your home folder.

What's the deal, Sparky? Did you not read the BIG FUCKING WARNING in BIG BOLD RED TYPE before you clicked that widdle buddon?

Re:What about File Vault? (1)

Rascasse (719300) | more than 10 years ago | (#7393735)

I lost many of my preferences as well when File Vault was enabled. Since I've disable it, I've lost none. Whenever I mention this bug some Apple apologist chimes in and claims there is no bug.

Re:What about File Vault? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7395098)

Do you know what "bug" means, Asscasse? A "bug" is reproducible. If it's not reproducible, it's not a bug.

I don't know what the hell you did wrong to trash your preferences. But it was NOT REPEAT FUCKING NOT a FileVault bug.

Re:What about File Vault? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7394233)

What's wrong with it?

File Vault runs fine!

So? (3, Insightful)

trublaha (650819) | more than 10 years ago | (#7391394)

Apple does not note, however, that Software Update will attempt to quit Terminal.app when installing the Security Update.

Is that such a big deal? I mean, if it's replacing the application, it's kinda going to have to quit it! Normally I like to quit as many running processes and applications before applying updates, just be sure.

Anyways, good to get an update so early. Haven't really noticed any of the problems with XCode, but it's reassuring knowing they're being addressed before I can encounter them!

Re:So? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7391600)

Also, the operative word there is "try." If your terminals are active (running anything other than a shell, that is), you'll get a "do you really want to quit?" alert.

Re:So? (1)

pudge (3605) | more than 10 years ago | (#7392927)

Is that such a big deal? I mean, if it's replacing the application, it's kinda going to have to quit it!

It is if you weren't thinking about it, had some processes running in the Terminal, and didn't have the preferences set to not close without warning if you have processes running (which, IIRC, is the default).

It's not a huge deal, but it absolutely should warn you before doing it.

Re:So? (1)

Carthag (643047) | more than 10 years ago | (#7393409)

...and didn't have the preferences set to not close without warning if...

Mind... melting..

Re:So? (1)

MoneyT (548795) | more than 10 years ago | (#7396611)

The terminal is set by default to ask you if you want to quit if you have processes running. If you turned that off, it's your fault for not thinking ahead.

Re:So? (1)

tm2b (42473) | more than 10 years ago | (#7393119)

Look at it as Apple doing some preemptive education of its user base, teaching us to pay more attention.

It could be sorta bad. It's not obvious that Terminal is being replaced - you might guess it's something like sshd or apache and simply not care enough to check - or you might be one of those unsophisticated users who say "Oh My GOD! Apple says to install a security update now, don't know what this means but it must happen ASAP!"- if you tell it to go ahead and install without checking you can lose a session. Not that someone who doesn't know what Terminal.app is is likely to be running Terminal.

In any case, it's one of those things that you are only likely to do once. :)

Re:So? (2, Informative)

rixstep (611236) | more than 10 years ago | (#7394228)

I mean, if it's replacing the application, it's kinda going to have to quit it!

Not at all. You've obviously never tried. What's loaded is loaded - you won't get any new NIBs if the old ones are removed - but you're perfectly capable of overwriting the disk image of a running process.

Re:So? (1)

gryphokk (648488) | more than 10 years ago | (#7397922)

I mean, if it's replacing the application, it's kinda going to have to quit it!

You would hope so, wouldn't you.

My wife was very nervous about operating my computer when she first started (an Amiga 2000). She was sure she would break something. I assured her it was very user-friendly, and she couldn't do anything to it that I couldn't fix (not a boast I would make today ;-) ).

She wrote her document. "What do I do now?"

I told her to save the document before printing. She dutifully saved the document -- in the same folder as the word processor -- with the same name as the word processor.

She printed the document successfully, quit the program.

Next day, she wanted to revise the letter. She double-clicked the file icon, which had no application to run it!

When she asked me for help, I looked in the folder window. She indicated "this" was her document. I said, no, that's the program.

She had replaced the word processing program with a document of the same name!

What I told her was true -- she couldn't break anything I couldn't fix. I reinstalled the WP and everything was great after that. But, yes, you can delete or overwrite a running application (at least in Amiga.)

Note: Mac does prevent you from overwriting an app with a document, so thie particular error wouldn't happen on Mac. But I don't see any obstruction to deleting a running application.

Re:So? (1)

Herbmaster (1486) | more than 10 years ago | (#7397779)

I mean, if it's replacing the application, it's kinda going to have to quit it!

Not necessarily, but it's a reasonable expectation. Of course, it's a reasonable expectation that Apple didn't provide. When I installed the update I don't recall it giving me any indication that it was terminal.app that was going to be modified, let alone that it would be trying to quit terminal for me. They should have indicated both. Most Apple security updates require delayed reboots to finish installation, IIRC, so I was pleased to see that this one didn't at least.

Re:So? (1)

aduzik (705453) | more than 10 years ago | (#7399792)

Also (and I learned this the hard way) you need to make sure to quit Xcode when it updates that, too. My system hung -- I mean "gray screen of death" hung -- because I was running Xcode when I updated. At least, that's what I've been able to figure out so far.

Pudge, this is your mother (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7391421)

Please, come back to the bedroom when you get a chance, your father's viagra is going to wear off soon.

It could be worse. (2, Insightful)

jptechnical (644454) | more than 10 years ago | (#7391452)

I have installed some win updates that shut down the entire system with no warning.

Nothing gets your blook pumping like a minor patch rebooting the DC in the middle of the afternoon.

Note to self... 'finish' sometimes means restart.

Re:It could be worse. (3, Insightful)

Pathwalker (103) | more than 10 years ago | (#7391579)

Shouldn't you be applying those patches during a scheduled change window, outside of production hours?

Shouldn't you have noticed that the patch forces a reboot when you applied it to one of your test systems to see if it would cause any problems?

Re:It could be worse. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7391865)

Shouldn't you be less of a pawn to the borg

Re:It could be worse. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7391925)

Shouldn't people be doing that for any OS - microsoft product or not?

Re:It could be worse. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7392542)

You're probably right, but you suck.

Re:It could be worse (Windows 2000) (0)

xiaodidi (678443) | more than 10 years ago | (#7394654)

Well, what if you are forced to use Windows, yet you don't get enough support, and you have to install software yourself, for your daily work?
Do you go back to the office in the middle of the night, in order not to disrupt your own daily schedule?
The official OS here is Windows 2000. This one needs to restart even after installing third party applications that have nothing to do with the OS. (Now, I am not allowed to upgrade to XP).
By contrast, OS X, basically from day one, only needs to be restarted after installing an handful of components, such as Quicktime and Java, in addition to the OS itself, of course.

Re:It could be worse. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7396040)

Shouldn't you wake up to the reality that not everybody can/wants to spend every waking hour worrying about something as simple as a software patch/update.

Patching should be a 1-4 minute process. Not ages of testing and re-testing.

Re:It could be worse. (1)

Pathwalker (103) | more than 10 years ago | (#7400294)

Shouldn't you wake up to the reality that you can't trust any software - Linux or Windows or MacOS - to be bugfree.

Which would you rather do?
  1. Spend an hour or so checking out a patch on a test system before installing it.
  2. Tell your boss to send everyone else home for the rest of the day because you fucked up because you didn't take a basic precaution because you were in too much of a hurry.
How do you think your boss will react if you chose option 2?

Re:It could be worse. (3, Funny)

rf600r (236081) | more than 10 years ago | (#7392756)

Note to self: Don't hire this moron who patches a DC in the middle of the afternoon.

Re:It could be worse. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7393342)

Note to self self: Don't work for a moronic company whose DC doesn't have to redundancy to be patched without disrupting everyone.

TROLL! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7391471)

What?? WHAT!!???? A bug in Apple softwares? My god, that's unpossible!!!1! The submitter must be trolling!! FYI, Only Microsoft (sorry, "M$") softwares is havening bugs. RMS and ESR and other luminanires of the open sources like the brilliant Slashdot editors said so. Neither Apple nor GNU/Whatever softwares has bugs. Please delete this article immediately as it serves no purpose whatsoever except to troll. Troll, troll. Please die troll.

Corrected TROLL! (2, Funny)

ErnstKompressor (193799) | more than 10 years ago | (#7397350)

What?? WHAT!!???? A bug in Apple's software? My god that's impossible!!!!! The submitter must be trolling!! FYI, only Microsoft (sorry, "M$") software has bugs. RMS, ESR and other luminaires of the open source world such as the brilliant Slashdot editors have said it is so. Neither Apple nor GNU/Whatever software has bugs. Please delete this article immediately as it serves no purpose whatsoever except to troll. Troll, troll. Please die troll.

The above post does not represent the views of Ernstkompressor. All rights belong to some Anonymous Coward. Thank you for your support

Duh... (-1, Redundant)

Bishop923 (109840) | more than 10 years ago | (#7391520)

Apple does not note, however, that Software Update will attempt to quit Terminal.app when installing the Security Update.

Gee, An application that is currently open needs to be closed in order to update it. Seems to be the correct course of action to attempt to close the app to prevent corruption. Why is this a problem?

Re:Duh... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7391636)

If you're running the update from within Terminal.app.

Re:Duh... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7392374)

doesnt seem to be a problem debian has...

Patch bug or PEBKAC? (2, Funny)

Squozen (301710) | more than 10 years ago | (#7391607)

Hmm. Once I've applied the patch Software Update still lists it as an available patch the next time I check for updates. I wonder what I managed to break when I installed Fink..?

Re:Patch bug or PEBKAC? (2, Funny)

neverkevin (601884) | more than 10 years ago | (#7391708)

I always move my chair to the other side of the room when installing updates to prevent PEBKAC errors :)

Re:Patch bug or PEBKAC? (2, Informative)

Elwood P Dowd (16933) | more than 10 years ago | (#7391888)

Some software updates reappear until you reboot.

Re:Patch bug or PEBKAC? (1)

Squozen (301710) | more than 10 years ago | (#7393246)

Thanks, I'll give that a shot. I had a 512Mb DIMM sitting on my desk when I arrived at work this morning so I have a good reason for shutting it down now.. :)

Re:Patch bug or PEBKAC? (1)

the_proton (257557) | more than 10 years ago | (#7393172)

That's your friendly neighbourhood proxy caching the results of the "what to scan" file from Apple. Force the proxy to refresh by either loading http://swscan.apple.com/scanningpoints/scanningpoi ntX.xml in a browser that supports a force reload, or if you have wget isntalled:

wget --cache=off "http://swscan.apple.com/scanningpoints/scanningpo intX.xml"

- proton

Re:Patch bug or PEBKAC? (1)

fr0dicus (641320) | more than 10 years ago | (#7394395)

Put your Terminal.app back in /Applications/Utilities.

Worked for me.

No, please, you go first (4, Insightful)

bpbond (246836) | more than 10 years ago | (#7392008)

Boy, after Apple's recent Firewire drive and FileVault data erasure issues, I think I'll let someone else go first. Let me know how things look, post-update, tomorrow morning...

Re:No, please, you go first (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7392525)

Just did the update and nothing untoward happened. So I guess it works.

Re:No, please, you go first (0, Flamebait)

bpbond (246836) | more than 10 years ago | (#7393445)

Thanks; no thanks to the moderator who slapped a flamebait on my post above.

Re:No, please, you go first (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7394157)

Fixed that. Getting tired of the standard of some of the moderating here lately.

illegal characters? (0)

k3vmo (620362) | more than 10 years ago | (#7392663)

Ummm. Any note of what characters they are referring to?

Re:illegal characters? (2, Funny)

Paradise Pete (33184) | more than 10 years ago | (#7393104)

Any note of what characters they are referring to?

"(C) SCO", I believe.

Re:illegal characters? (1)

Tisephone (709174) | more than 10 years ago | (#7393488)

"(C) SCO", I believe.

Really? My own tests suggested that it was "Netcraft confirms".

Re:illegal characters? (1)

Paradise Pete (33184) | more than 10 years ago | (#7395216)

Really? My own tests suggested that it was "Netcraft confirms".

I like yours better.

Re:illegal characters? (1)

MoneyT (548795) | more than 10 years ago | (#7396651)

I'm going to guess illegal characters refer to any reserved symbols that get used where they aren't supposed to be used.

Important Points: (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7393726)

Windows 95 AKA "Chicago" stole button look and feel from NeXT. Years later, NeXT made Mac OS X for Apple Computer, Inc. who used the same button look and feel until Strategy: OS X was realized. Therefore Mac OS "X" Rhapsody 10.3b is related in the codebase to Windows XP "NT 5.1" Server 2003 at the actual graphics system level. PowerPC is the strategy to merge Wintel and Mac platforms into an androgynous user interface and application binary interface: Hybridization of "Power" Macintosh and "PC" begin! AGP, PCI, RAM, and IDE are evidence of such cross-pollination of Microsoft, NeXT, and Apple technologies in coalescence. Apple has in turn recoded fast user switching from the XP beta 2003 Server for use on PowerPC platforms, another bridge in the cross pltaform amalgamation of Windows/OS "X." Linux is the extra source code expunged by Apple/Microsoft/NeXT engineers to the masses under open sources. PowerPC exists. Say hello to iHub.

my iMail app is broken (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7393884)

I just installed the updates and now it seems iMail crashes when it attempts to fetch email:

Date/Time: 2003-11-04 21:55:29 -0800
OS Version: 10.3 (Build 7B85)

Command: Mail (/Applications/Mail.app/Contents/MacOS/Mail)
PID: 672
Thread: 5

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000

Thread 0:
#0 0x900075c8 in mach_msg_trap (mach_msg_trap + 8)
#1 0x90007118 in mach_msg (mach_msg + 56)
#2 0x90191930 in __CFRunLoopRun (__CFRunLoopRun + 848)
#3 0x901960bc in CFRunLoopRunSpecific (CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 328)
#4 0x927d5ecc in RunCurrentEventLoopInMode (RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 172)
#5 0x927dc640 in ReceiveNextEventCommon (ReceiveNextEventCommon + 380)
#6 0x927fe6d0 in BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInMode (BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInMode + 96)
#7 0x92dd2a80 in _DPSNextEvent (_DPSNextEvent + 384)
#8 0x92de93fc in -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] (-[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 116)
#9 0x92dfd730 in -[NSApplication run] (-[NSApplication run] + 540)
#10 0x92eb9a1c in NSApplicationMain (NSApplicationMain + 464)
#11 0x0001317c in 0x1317c
#12 0x00041f70 in 0x41f70

Thread 1:
#0 0x90012668 in syscall_thread_switch (syscall_thread_switch + 8)
#1 0x90a03024 in +[NSThread sleepUntilDate:] (+[NSThread sleepUntilDate:] + 152)
#2 0x92dcac2c in -[NSUIHeartBeat _heartBeatThread:] (-[NSUIHeartBeat _heartBeatThread:] + 1172)
#3 0x90a3a198 in forkThreadForFunction (forkThreadForFunction + 108)
#4 0x900247e8 in _pthread_body (_pthread_body + 40)

Thread 2:
#0 0x90017048 in semaphore_wait_signal_trap (semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 8)
#1 0x9000e890 in _pthread_cond_wait (_pthread_cond_wait + 624)
#2 0x7ca12274 in -[_MFRecursiveLock lock] (-[_MFRecursiveLock lock] + 80)
#3 0x7ca6e580 in -[MessageRouter asynchronouslyRouteMessages:] (-[MessageRouter asynchronouslyRouteMessages:] + 92)
#4 0x7ca8bd58 in -[POP3FetchStore connection:didRetrieveData:forMessageNumber:] (-[POP3FetchStore connection:didRetrieveData:forMessageNumber:] + 304)
#5 0x7ca88790 in -[POP3Connection retr:] (-[POP3Connection retr:] + 764)
#6 0x7ca88be4 in -[POP3Connection fetchMessages:] (-[POP3Connection fetchMessages:] + 240)
#7 0x7ca8a350 in -[POP3FetchStore fetchSynchronously] (-[POP3FetchStore fetchSynchronously] + 2052)
#8 0x7caab5e0 in -[POPAccount fetchSynchronously] (-[POPAccount fetchSynchronously] + 192)
#9 0x90836774 in objc_msgSendv (objc_msgSendv + 180)
#10 0x909fb270 in -[NSInvocation invoke] (-[NSInvocation invoke] + 884)
#11 0x7ca1af44 in -[MonitoredInvocation invoke] (-[MonitoredInvocation invoke] + 144)
#12 0x7ca176a0 in -[InvocationQueue _drainQueue] (-[InvocationQueue _drainQueue] + 408)
#13 0x90a3a198 in forkThreadForFunction (forkThreadForFunction + 108)
#14 0x900247e8 in _pthread_body (_pthread_body + 40)

Thread 3:
#0 0x900075c8 in mach_msg_trap (mach_msg_trap + 8)
#1 0x90007118 in mach_msg (mach_msg + 56)
#2 0x90191930 in __CFRunLoopRun (__CFRunLoopRun + 848)
#3 0x901960bc in CFRunLoopRunSpecific (CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 328)
#4 0x909fced0 in -[NSRunLoop runMode:beforeDate:] (-[NSRunLoop runMode:beforeDate:] + 172)
#5 0x90a159ec in -[NSRunLoop run] (-[NSRunLoop run] + 76)
#6 0x7ca3acec in +[_NSSocket _runIOThread] (+[_NSSocket _runIOThread] + 92)
#7 0x90a3a198 in forkThreadForFunction (forkThreadForFunction + 108)
#8 0x900247e8 in _pthread_body (_pthread_body + 40)

Thread 4:
#0 0x9000b30c in select (select + 12)
#1 0x90196d40 in __CFSocketManager (__CFSocketManager + 508)
#2 0x900247e8 in _pthread_body (_pthread_body + 40)

Thread 5 Crashed:
#0 0x9604541c in LSMImmutableMapCounter::LSMImmutableMapCounter[uni fied](LSMReadFileDesc*, LSMWordTable*&, long) (LSMImmutableMapCounter::LSMImmutableMapCounter[un ified](LSMReadFileDesc*, LSMWordTable*&, long) + 952)
#1 0x96048bfc in LSMCompiledMap::LSMCompiledMap[unified](__LSMMap*, __CFURL const*, long) (LSMCompiledMap::LSMCompiledMap[unified](__LSMMap* , __CFURL const*, long) + 224)
#2 0x960479a0 in LSMMapLoadWithOptions (LSMMapLoadWithOptions + 116)
#3 0x7cab9524 in JunkMailGlobalMap (JunkMailGlobalMap + 256)
#4 0x7cab95f0 in MFJunkMailLevelForString (MFJunkMailLevelForString + 36)
#5 0x7ca74958 in -[MessageRuleCriterion _evaluateJunkMailCriterion:] (-[MessageRuleCriterion _evaluateJunkMailCriterion:] + 684)
#6 0x7ca310ac in -[MessageRuleCriterion doesMessageSatisfyCriterion:] (-[MessageRuleCriterion doesMessageSatisfyCriterion:] + 272)
#7 0x7ca56ee0 in -[MessageRule doesMessageSatisfyCriteria:] (-[MessageRule doesMessageSatisfyCriteria:] + 120)
#8 0x7ca56c18 in +[MessageRouter putRulesThatWantsToHandleMessage:intoArray:colorRu lesOnly:] (+[MessageRouter putRulesThatWantsToHandleMessage:intoArray:colorRu lesOnly:] + 356)
#9 0x7ca6ebc0 in -[MessageRouter routeMessages:fromStores:] (-[MessageRouter routeMessages:fromStores:] + 996)
#10 0x7ca6f2b8 in -[MessageRouter routeQueuedMessages] (-[MessageRouter routeQueuedMessages] + 400)
#11 0x90836774 in objc_msgSendv (objc_msgSendv + 180)
#12 0x909fb270 in -[NSInvocation invoke] (-[NSInvocation invoke] + 884)
#13 0x7ca1af44 in -[MonitoredInvocation invoke] (-[MonitoredInvocation invoke] + 144)
#14 0x7ca28b3c in +[WorkerThread _execute:] (+[WorkerThread _execute:] + 76)
#15 0x90a3a198 in forkThreadForFunction (forkThreadForFunction + 108)
#16 0x900247e8 in _pthread_body (_pthread_body + 40)

PPC Thread State:
srr0: 0x9604541c srr1: 0x0200f030 vrsave: 0x00000000
cr: 0x44002422 xer: 0x00000004 lr: 0x96045408 ctr: 0x90003800
r0: 0x96056f84 r1: 0xf008eb80 r2: 0xe68e1325 r3: 0x04284090
r4: 0x00000000 r5: 0x00000001 r6: 0x80808080 r7: 0x00000001
r8: 0x6e000000 r9: 0x00120cc8 r10: 0x00120cc8 r11: 0x044a1000
r12: 0x90003800 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00000000
r16: 0x042841fc r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x00000000 r19: 0x04284090
r20: 0x7cb146ac r21: 0x04284400 r22: 0x00000000 r23: 0x0428442c
r24: 0xf008ebc4 r25: 0x00000000 r26: 0x96056f84 r27: 0x04284440
r28: 0x00000000 r29: 0x00000004 r30: 0xf008eb80 r31: 0x96048b24

Re:my iMail app is broken (1)

Black Noise (683584) | more than 10 years ago | (#7394809)

Perhaps you should send the stack trace to apple instead of posting it here.

Running the patch now (1)

sakusha (441986) | more than 10 years ago | (#7394190)

I'm doing the update now, its a little slow downloading. I just backed up and reformatted my old Pismo G3/500 for a fresh install of Panther, I figure I should start with a baseline OS with all current updates. Now I can try this before it can cause any trouble, on a blank new CPU. I have nothing to lose.

Re:Running the patch now (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7394245)

'on a blank new CPU'?

How do you make a CPU blank?

Patched, no problems. (1)

gsdali (707124) | more than 10 years ago | (#7394861)

Maybe this will solve the problem with tcsh gobbling up loads of CPU cycles. I doubt it though, apple would have probably mentioned it directly. The problem with Mail detailed above could be something else entirely.

And it doesn't require restart! (2, Interesting)

your_mother_sews_soc (528221) | more than 10 years ago | (#7394937)

Apple does not note, however, that Software Update will attempt to quit Terminal.app when installing the Security Update.
Panther seems stable and very solid, even though it did deep six my ProTools, wouldn't let me use my Geforce4MX card, etc . So I figured I'd give it a shot. Oh yeah, and reading bpbond's post [slashdot.org] forced me to give it a go.

Much to my surprise, that the security patch didn't require a restart. To the best of my knowledge, this is a first. And, like the new installer, at the end it went through a "disk optimization" stage. I am impressed! Now if Avid could update ProTools, and I can get ssh to listen over port 23 again (my place of employment has telnet open, but nothing else - I need to read slashdot!) ...

Re:And it doesn't require restart! (2, Informative)

stripes (3681) | more than 10 years ago | (#7395774)

Now if Avid could update ProTools, and I can get ssh to listen over port 23 again (my place of employment has telnet open, but nothing else - I need to read slashdot!)

Doesn't adding "Port 23" to /etc/sshd_config do it? (not that I have tryed, but a quick scan of hte man page says it will... oh, you probbably have to HUP sshd). Or are you asking how to get the client to use another port (-p 23 I think).

Good luck.

Re:And it doesn't require restart! (1)

your_mother_sews_soc (528221) | more than 10 years ago | (#7395939)

This is probably totally off topic, but yes, you are right. That's how I've managed to get it to work through 10.2.8. As a matter of fact, right now I am tunnelling from work into a fresh 10.2.8 install.

I have sshd_config set with Port 23, and Apache running mod_proxy. On the client (Windows side) I use putty.exe to use ssh over 23 and then set up port forwarding to Apache. This enables me to do all my "bad" surfing - Slashdot, MacNN, Macintouch - etc., all encrypted and below the radar of our contet-filtering cops.

I've tried everything on Panther, rebooted, disabled the firewall, played with ipfw - all to no avail. So to keep my sanity, I launch 10.2.8 and go to work. And here I am! Panther is good, maybe too good.

Re:And it doesn't require restart! (1)

bucklesl (73547) | more than 10 years ago | (#7395960)

Yeah, add
Port 23
to the /etc/ssh/sshd_config. Also, if you want to make sure you get on from other places, and you don't run a web server, just use some common WWW ports.
Port 80
Port 443
Port 8080

SCSI problems - whose fault? (2, Interesting)

teamhasnoi (554944) | more than 10 years ago | (#7396806)

My Adaptec 2096 SCSI card has been 'disappeared' since I installed Panther. It worked fine under 10.2.8.

Apple is blaming Adaptec, Adaptec is blaming Apple. Since the driver was built into OS X, who should I go after? I hope this isn't another, "We no longer support SCSI".

Check for New Comments
Slashdot Account

Need an Account?

Forgot your password?

Don't worry, we never post anything without your permission.

Submission Text Formatting Tips

We support a small subset of HTML, namely these tags:

  • b
  • i
  • p
  • br
  • a
  • ol
  • ul
  • li
  • dl
  • dt
  • dd
  • em
  • strong
  • tt
  • blockquote
  • div
  • quote
  • ecode

"ecode" can be used for code snippets, for example:

<ecode>    while(1) { do_something(); } </ecode>
Create a Slashdot Account

Loading...