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Nintendo Resumes Production Of GameCube

simoniker posted more than 10 years ago | from the mr-game-and-watch-is-foreman dept.

GameCube (Games) 69

Thanks to Gamesindustry.biz for their article revealing that GameCube consoles are rolling off the production lines in Japan once again, as revitalized demand for the system "finally outstrips the backlog of units which had built up at Nintendo's warehouses", following the suspension of GameCube manufacturing earlier this year. The article points out that "Recent price-drops combined with the roll-out of key software titles [including the Zelda bundle] for the machine in all three major markets have given the Cube new life in the run up to Christmas", as Nintendo VP George Harrison "...told the Wall Street Journal that he expects to sell two million Cubes in the US market this Christmas."

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Not surprised. (4, Insightful)

nemui-chan (550759) | more than 10 years ago | (#7408748)

I'm not surprised. For $100 I'd consider buying one just for the hell of it. There's nothing that I really want on it (until Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles comes out), but for that price, if I spend a few hours playing it EVER, then I've gotten my moneys worth.

Re:Not surprised. (3, Insightful)

scot4875 (542869) | more than 10 years ago | (#7408898)

There's nothing that I really want on it

Then you're either not looking or too picky. There are plenty of top-notch titles in just about every genre available for the system. Far more than 'just' Mario and Zelda.

Two suggestions I'll throw out are Eternal Darkness and Viewtiful Joe. Fantastic, unique games that you won't find on any other system. There are many more if you look.

--Jeremy

Re:Not surprised. (1)

Smedrick (466973) | more than 10 years ago | (#7408953)

I agree. Viewtiful Joe is the most unique and entertaining game I've played in long time.

Re:Not surprised. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7410398)

True. It's a huge, huge pity that there are not more like it. It's got the most amazing graphics I've ever seen, on any system. Beautiful detailes cell-shaded graphics with animation that shows an amazing attention to detail. The gameplay is both innovative (with slow motion, speedup and zoom and other cool gameplay elements) and extremely playable and gratifying. It's hard, but not too hard.

Oh, oh, and I've also bought F-Zero GX last week. I have no idea which game to play. I think my head is going to explode.

Re:Not surprised. (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7411758)

Then you're either not looking or too picky. There are plenty of top-notch titles in just about every genre available for the system. Far more than 'just' Mario and Zelda.

Hmm.. lets see, that will be:
FF(Legend of mana actually): CC, Viewtiful Joe, FZero, the 2 SW:RS games and Metroid Prime

Coming soon:

Pokemon:Something maybe Metroid prime 2.

Eternal Darkness?? come on , Silent hill (any of the 3) is WAY better than that.

Sorry but I just dont see what "Plenty of exclusive titles" you are talking about especially excluding Mario and Zelda (which are 3-4 titles tops: Wind Waker, Sunshine, Dash and... is there anyone who could count Golf and Party as top titles?)

Anyone who has a N system knows that they care on quality not quantity (or at least thats what they say) and just about everyone complaint on the system is that they left you starving for good games for months before anything worth while is released.

Re:Not surprised. (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7411969)

You don't own a Cube, do you? How about you leave the comments about the system to those who know what we're talking about, instead of playing the ignorant hater position?

As someone who owns a Cube and a PS2, let me say this: I've bought 5-6 times as many games for my Cube than for my PS2 in the past few weeks (and I typically buy a lot of games - I don't rent). Yeah, I took advantage of "The Sale" a few weeks ago (ask around). Less than half of those Cube games were cross-platform games that I bought for the Cube because they looked better and loaded faster than on my PS2. The rest were GameCube exclusives, either from Nintendo or from third-party publishers. In the past month, I bought Disgaea and Castlevania for PS2. That's it. Nothing else interested me. Normally it's maybe 5 games, depending on what's out, but this past month, almost nothing good was released on the PS2. And I was actually playing catch-up in buying Disgaea, since it was released months ago. Sony first-party stuff hasn't interested me since Ico, so SOCOM, Jak II and Going Commando aren't floating my boat. We'll see about FFX-2, and hopefully next month won't be another shitty PS2 month.

And no, FFCC is not a followup to Legend of Mana. Consider it a Final Fantasy game in a greatly expanded Secret of Mana style, but there are no world-building elements to it.

Re:Not surprised. (0, Troll)

Mike Mentalist (544984) | more than 10 years ago | (#7415169)

You don't own a Cube, do you? How about you leave the comments about the system to those who know what we're talking about, instead of playing the ignorant hater position?

Yawn. Please, can we stop this "You are a hater!" business please as it is very boring.


As someone who owns a Cube and a PS2, let me say this: I've bought 5-6 times as many games for my Cube than for my PS2 in the past few weeks (and I typically buy a lot of games - I don't rent).

Sorry, what is this supposed to prove other than your own personal gaming tastes?

As a GC, Xbox and PS2 owner there are only two GC games that I consider worth owning - Eternal Darkness and Monkey Ball. I got F-Zero GX but that is going back to be swapped for Viewtiful Joe. I prefer Wipeout 3SE to be honest.

Re:Not surprised. (1)

Mike Mentalist (544984) | more than 10 years ago | (#7415218)

Then you're either not looking or too picky. There are plenty of top-notch titles in just about every genre available for the system. Far more than 'just' Mario and Zelda.

Or, you know, the games just aren't to his taste. I actually agree with his statement as there is very little on the GC that has interested me at all.


Two suggestions I'll throw out are Eternal Darkness and Viewtiful Joe. Fantastic, unique games that you won't find on any other system.

Eternal Darkness is one of my 'current-gen' favourites so far, but it certainly isn't unique.

Re:Not surprised. (2, Funny)

scot4875 (542869) | more than 10 years ago | (#7418156)

Eternal Darkness is one of my 'current-gen' favourites so far, but it certainly isn't unique.

Yeah, I guess the whole 2-millennium-spanning, 12-character-playing, insanity-effect-generating genre has been done to death.

--Jeremy

Re:Not surprised. (0, Troll)

Mike Mentalist (544984) | more than 10 years ago | (#7418739)

Yeah, I guess the whole 2-millennium-spanning, 12-character-playing, insanity-effect-generating genre has been done to death.

They are just gimics in the survival-horror genre. Timesplitters did it before ED (minus the insanity effects), but that hardly makes it a unique game.

Re:Not surprised. (4, Informative)

Niobium-41 (601054) | more than 10 years ago | (#7408909)

Especially with the Zelda Pack being released on November 17th.

You'll get 4 Zelda games (the 2 from the NES, and the 2 from the N-64) with the gamecube, all for $100 bucks.. That's the best deal, as far as gaming consoles goes, in a long time.

Re:Not surprised. (3, Funny)

Acidic_Diarrhea (641390) | more than 10 years ago | (#7409143)

NES [ebay.com] - $30
Zelda 1 [ebay.com] - $6
Zelda 2 [ebay.com] - $10
N64 [ebay.com] - $13
Majora's Mask [ebay.com] - $13
Ocarina of Time [ebay.com] - $5

Total cost: $77

And you don't even get a Gamecube!
Yes, this bundle is truly a steal.

Re:Not surprised. (1)

FiberOpticMayhem (685224) | more than 10 years ago | (#7410832)

My only beef with the bundle is that Zelda: Link to the Past is not included in it. It's still my favorite Zelda game ever.

Re:Not surprised. (1)

ivan256 (17499) | more than 10 years ago | (#7410923)

Are you surprised? They're still selling it (and in huge quantities I might add). Why would they give it away for free?

Re:Not surprised. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7411444)

I want Link's Awakening!

Re:Not surprised. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412084)

And I want my wife to let me do her in the kitchen while she makes me a sandwich, but we don't always get what we want now, do we.

Re:Not surprised. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412513)

Wow! I want your wife to let me do her in the kitchen while she makes you a sandwich too, what a coincidence!

Re:Not surprised. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7414077)

Holy crap, I want to eat that sandwich.

Re:Not surprised. (1)

DAldredge (2353) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412138)

You forgot s/h.

Re:Not surprised. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412200)

More like almost $90 NOT including shipping, and those are some very low prices. Plus, you'd have to find the RAM expansion pack in order to play Majora's Mask, so that can bring your cheap retro games shopping spree to much more than the cost of a GameCube with tax.

This bundle is the best thing since sliced bread. And I fucking LOVE sliced bread.

Re:Not surprised. (1)

prockcore (543967) | more than 10 years ago | (#7413881)

Should've waited till the auctions ended and added S/H

NES - $39 + $12 S/H
Zelda 1 - $8 + $3.50 S/H
Zelda 2 - $10 + $2.50 S/H
N64 - $13 + $5.50 S/H
Majora's Mask - $14 + $4 S/H
Ocarina of Time - $5 + $4 S/H

Total Cost: $120

Sucker.

Re:Not surprised. (1)

Acidic_Diarrhea (641390) | more than 10 years ago | (#7413960)

Who is a sucker? I was pointing out that the bundle was a lot better deal but apparently you didn't read my actual comment. Also, the fact that I didn't include shipping and handling has already been noted.

Maybe you should get an education and then come back to Slashdot. You make yourself look rather stupid.

Re:Not surprised. (2, Informative)

Neon Spiral Injector (21234) | more than 10 years ago | (#7409145)

I saw someone asking before how others can get the disc if they already have a GCN, or just bought one not long ago. Nintendo has details on their web site under Zelda Classic [nintendo.com] .

Basically you can buy a subscription to Nintendo Power, or if you haven't registered your system yet, you can do that along with two other holiday release games.

Re:Not surprised. (1)

Goyuix (698012) | more than 10 years ago | (#7409788)

I read the page referenced in the above post - Zelda Classic [nintendo.com] - and I had a great idea...

Add $15 or so to the subscription and send out a demo disc (or bonus disc?) each month - like what they have in the stores already. It shouldn't cost them more than about $1 each month as they are already making the discs....

Basically for me, that would rock. Then I don't have to look like a doofus at Target kicking the little kids off so I can check out the latest demos and movies...

Re:Not surprised. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7411281)

With a nick like nemui-chan and a stated desire to play Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles, you're probably a J-RPG fan (which is fine, unless you're one of those "Final Fantasy ONLY" weirdos). And so it's true, for the past few years, there have been very few RPGs to get excited about, except on Sony platforms and of course the GameBoy Advance.

But at least in the near future, the GameCube is getting some pretty good releases. Tales of Symphonia is the latest GameCube-exclusive volume in Namco's "Tales" series. Baten Kaitos is a very anticipated card RPG. Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles should appeal to the Seiken Densetsu crowd and the Final Fantasy crowd alike. And there are also Dreamcast RPGs like Evolution Worlds (ho-hum fare) and Skies of Arcadia Legends (fantastic, particularly to the lucky ones among us who have played Panzer Dragoon Saga). I won't present the Lost Kingdoms series or Summoner 2 (American game) as equivalents, but they definitely exist for people who are interested in them. As do Phantasy Star Online Episodes 1 & 2, with PSO 3 coming soon, for the MMORPG fans.

If you ask me, the Cube is catching up with the GBA in terms of RPGs. And in the case of Tales of Symphonia (which is looking very hot, particularly compared to the Japanese PS2 "Tales of Destiny 2" release), things are looking very good. As an RPG and adventure game (Zelda!) fan, I'm extremely happy to have both my PS2 and my GameCube.

Re:Not surprised. (2, Insightful)

Alizarin Erythrosin (457981) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412479)

You could always do what I did... I bought an N64 and a 'Cube for the same reason... Super Smash Bros (Melee in the case of the Cube).

It's an awesome party game to play with friends, much like Mario Party 4 (which I have played but haven't purchased yet). And with the impending release of Mario Kart Double Dash (or whatever it's called) I'm glad I bought one when the price hit $99.

Zelda Game Bundle? (2, Interesting)

HaloZero (610207) | more than 10 years ago | (#7408902)

For a while there was talk of a Zelda GameCube bundle, with all of the Zelda games, plus the new-er iteration. Really looking forward to it - first reason to actually buy a GameCube. Perhaps this is the first step in seeing that roll out? Probably a Christmas hold off.

Re:Zelda Game Bundle? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7411250)

That's going to be released on the day Super Mario Kart Gamecube is released.

Re:Zelda Game Bundle? (1)

SamSim (630795) | more than 10 years ago | (#7415754)

It distresses me immensely that the most hotly anticipated upcoming release on the GameCube is actually a re-release of games that are already out. The only GCN games that people are interested in are updates of old franchises like Metroid, F-Zero. Is there seriously nothing else coming out that is original and worth getting excited about?

Re:Zelda Game Bundle? (1)

HaloZero (610207) | more than 10 years ago | (#7416516)

There are quite a few updated NGC games that I surely love. Pikmin for example. That game is freaking weird. I love it. Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader, and Rogue Squadron III. Love II, can't wait to see III. Metroid Primus - yeah, redo of an older franchise, but still a great game. I'm sure there are others that I just can't think of right now that are absolutely great, atleast in my book.

Where's Mike? (-1, Troll)

StocDred (691816) | more than 10 years ago | (#7409170)

Where's Mike Hawk with the rant about how this proves Nintendo has lost touch and is doomed to fail?

Re:Where's Mike? (2, Interesting)

Mike Hawk (687615) | more than 10 years ago | (#7409623)

I'm here, but I never said they were doomed to fail. Just that they were losing big in the US and still are. They are basing that 2 million number on the fact that sales skyrockted for the one week after the price dropped. Well duh. But will they sustain it through the holiday season to hit 2 million consoles in the US from now until 1/1/04? Even given 4 weeks to pull it off they would have to sell 250k consoles per week. Clearly not. At best its wishful thinking, at worst they are deceiving investors. But then they aren't really an American company so they can lie all they want over here.

Hey, you can keep Mario Kart, I bought it once before, I'm still not going to buy a console just to play the same games again.

Re:Where's Mike? (3, Interesting)

AtaruMoroboshi (522293) | more than 10 years ago | (#7409777)


Still are?

Did you miss the news that they doubled their market share already?

the xbox is now in third place.

.

Re:Where's Mike? (1)

Mike Mentalist (544984) | more than 10 years ago | (#7411684)

Still are?

Did you miss the news that they doubled their market share already?

the xbox is now in third place.


You are confusing 'market share' with 'user base'.

Re:Where's Mike? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412472)

True. When Xbox hit its alltime high of 24% market share earlier this year during the DOAXBV release, the Cube fans had nothing to fear. The worldwide installed base of the Cube was still much higher than that of the Xbox.

Now that the Cube is doing 37% market share, the Xbox fans also have nothing to fear. Although the Cube lead is again growing, the lead itself had since shrunken to within 200,000 units of the 3rd-place Xbox by the next financial quarter from then.

Re:Where's Mike? (1)

Mike Hawk (687615) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412730)

Clearly you are confusing "market share" as in sales for the week, versus "installed user base" which is consoles in homes. The second is the important number in every venue but Nintendo of America press releases. C'mon man, know what you are talking about before you try to correct someone. Mod this man down -1 Just Plain Wrong.

Re:Where's Mike? (1)

AtaruMoroboshi (522293) | more than 10 years ago | (#7413220)


Um... they doubled their installed base.

Every gamestore owner I've talked to has told me the Gamecube is flying off the shelves, selling better than it ever has.

.

Re:Where's Mike? (0, Flamebait)

Mike Hawk (687615) | more than 10 years ago | (#7413342)

No, they didn't. You don't understand what you are talking about.

Re:Where's Mike? (1)

AtaruMoroboshi (522293) | more than 10 years ago | (#7414176)

care to explain it then, slowly and in detail, so that I might understand?

.

Re:Where's Mike? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7414838)

Don't bother asking. Mike Hawk rarely provides details to back up his posts---instead preferring to leave his posts vague and ambigious.

Re:Where's Mike? (1)

Mike Mentalist (544984) | more than 10 years ago | (#7415209)

care to explain it then, slowly and in detail, so that I might understand?

When Nintendo said that they had doubled their market share after the price drop, that meant that they were suddenly selling twice as many consoles and no extra PS2's or Xbox's were being sold.

Example:

Pre-price drop, the percentage of consoles being sold was 50% PS2, 30% Xbox and 20% GC.

Post price drop, the percentage of consoles being sold was 40% PS2, 20% Xbox and 40% GC.


Note that this doesn't mean that sales for the PS2 and Xbox dropped, it just means that sales for the GC rose.

Nintendo most certainly have not doubled their installed userbase in such a short time - that would mean selling a few million consoles in less than a month and totally outselling the PS2 as well.

Re:Where's Mike? (1)

Mike Hawk (687615) | more than 10 years ago | (#7422477)

Did you see Mr. Mentalist's explanation?

Do you understand now?

Do not correct people when you do not understand what you are talking about.

Re:Where's Mike? (1)

AtaruMoroboshi (522293) | more than 10 years ago | (#7422901)


perhaps if you were less interested in being a dick and more interested in being informative, you would have made it clear what you were talking about right from the get go.

Re:Where's Mike? (2, Informative)

Daetrin (576516) | more than 10 years ago | (#7415285)

"The second is the important number in every venue but Nintendo of America press releases."

I'll agree with you that the installed base is by far the more important factor, although i wouldn't say that market share is completly irrelevant.

However it's a bit biased of you to be singling out Nintendo for this behavior. Every time something similar happens to Sony or Microsoft they crow about it just as loudly. How long has Microsoft been claiming that they're beating Nintendo in the console wars, and how often do they remember to mention that thwy're talking about America, and they're third place world wide in installed user base? When Sony was talking about how much better than the Dreamcast the PS2 was going to be, did they ever mention that it was going to have almost no games at launch and comparable graphics? They're _all_ guilty of that kind of crap, the only thing that changes is which positive looking number they're touting this week.

Re:Where's Mike? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7411380)

Mike, you are ever the trustworthy analyst. You seem to have a strong anti-Nintendo bias, what with every one of your gaming posts being a backhanded slap at them. But hey, we all know how right you were about the NGage being so freaking awesome in comparison with the GameBoy Advance, so I guess you've helped us all realize how pathetic Nintendo is.

Keep it up, buddy. [ebaumsworld.com] Your cred around here is skyrocketing.

And american companies don't lie? (1)

Hecatonchires (231908) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412515)

What world are you living in?

Re:Where's Mike? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412749)

My bad, that should be 8 weeks. Ya preview and ya preview....

Re:Where's Mike? (1)

scot4875 (542869) | more than 10 years ago | (#7413208)

I'm still not going to buy a console just to play the same games again.

Ok, enjoy Tomb Raider and Sonic on your n-Gage.

--Jeremy

Re:Where's Mike? (1)

Daetrin (576516) | more than 10 years ago | (#7410256)

It's nice to know that the "Haven't you heard? Nintendo doesn't make the GameCube anymore!" trolls will have to find a new line.

Muahahaha... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7409216)

Just played through..

METROID PRIME ...You'll have to play it yourself. But lemme tell you.. That game is *** F U N ***!!! ...nuff said!

If only these assholes at Nintendo would release a PAL version with S-VIDEO so I could connect it to my TV card. They removed it for the European version... those damn japanese bastards...

greased up yoda doll in my by tsarkon reports (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7409221)

tsarkon reports THE GREASED YODA DOLL

GREASED YODA !



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2) wipe ass with witch hazel, soothes horrific burns

3) prime anus with anal ease.

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5) pucker your ballon knot several times actuating the sphincter muscle in order to work it in

6) slowly rest yourself onto your yoda figurine

7) make sure to have a mechanism by which to fish yoda out of your rectum, the soap on the rope is especially useful because that is built in.

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All in a days work with a yoda figurine rammed up your ass.



Ground Control to Yoda Doll
Ground Control to Yoda Doll
Take your ass grease pills and put your helmet on
Ground Control to Yoda Doll
Commencing countdown, engines on
Check ignition and may God's love shove up you
Ten, Nine, Eight, Seven, Six, Five, Four, Three, Two, One, Shove Up
This is Ground Control to Yoda Doll
You've really made the grade
And the papers want to know whose butts you tear
Now it's time to leave the suppository if you dare
"This is Yoda Doll to Ground Control
I'm stepping through the door

And I'm stinking in a most peculiar way
And the ass look very different today
For here am I sitting in an ass can
Far inside the butt
My face is turning blue
And there's nothing I can do
Though I'm past one hundred thousand bowels
I'm feeling very still
And I think my buttship knows which way to go
Tell my wife I ream her very much, she knows"
Ground Control to Yoda Doll
Your circuit's dead, there's something wrong

Can you hear me, Yoda Doll?
Can you hear me, Yoda Doll?
Can you hear me, Yoda Doll?
Can you....
"Here am I floating in my ass can
Far inside his Moon
My face is turning blue
And there's nothing I can do."

"Oh, it's very simple indeed Master Jinn. Fuck your apprentice, or the lovely Greased Up Yoda Doll!

At Xanatos' statement, Greased Up Yoda Doll paled and whimpered. He tightened his grip around his waist, and pulled a vibro-blade from the folds of his cloak. Without taking his eyes from Qui-Gon, he powered up the knife, placing it against the aged doll's throat.

Qui-Gon steadfastly held Xanatos' gaze, but did not move. Xanatos narrowed his eyes, calling on the Force to hold the blade in place against Greased Up Yoda Doll, and ripped his blouse from his body, hands moving to his breasts, fingers exploring, pinching, stroking, teasing. Greased Up Yoda Doll sucked in a shaky breath, remaining otherwise still and silent. His eyes, however, told a different panicked story as they pleaded with Qui-Gon. Displeased with both Qui- Gon and Greased Up Yoda Doll's lack of overt reactions, Xanatos' fingers moved to play with the Greased Up Yoda Doll's nipples, pulling at them until he gasped.

After a few moments Qui-Gon closed his eyes, shying away from looking into the Greased Up Yoda Doll' eyes. He refused to watch the young Greased Up Yoda Doll suffering in one of Xanatos' petty revenge plans.

"Leave him alone," Qui-Gon ground out.

"I think not, Jinn," replied Xanatos, voice lilting. "Only you have the power to make that happen." He raised a querying eyebrow at the Jedi.

Qui-Gon's eyes opened and drifted over to where his naked and unconscious padawan lay face down on a stone bench, his arms chained to the wall. With a burst of the Force, Xanatos put the Greased Up Yoda Doll to sleep, dropping his to floor.

He grabbed Qui-Gon's arm and pulled him forcibly to stand next to Obi- Wan. Qui-Gon reached out with the Force to assess his padawan's condition, silently cursing the dampening collar fitted snugly around his neck. He could no more help Obi-Wan than he could have helped the Greased Up Yoda Doll.

Xanatos grabbed Obi-Wan's hips, pulling him to his knees. Even though unconscious Obi-Wan moaned as his chained arms were pulled painfully taut.

While Xanatos' attention was on Obi-Wan, and the guards were trussing up the unconscious Greased Up Yoda Doll, Qui-Gon seized his chance, eyes narrowing, as he attempted to gather his the Force around him to knock Xanatos out, his shoulders slumping as he realized it was still out of his reach.

In a single motion, Xanatos turned, grabbing one of Qui-Gon's wrists as he did so. His face filled with fury as he snarled, "You forget yourself, Jedi!" He twisted Qui-Gon's wrist with enough power to break it, but stopped before the bones snapped. He smirked as Qui-Gon stifled a moan at the pain. "Not so high and mighty now, are we, Qui-Gon? Without the Force, your kind are nothing but a bunch of craven weaklings."

A Force-push caused Qui-Gon to stumble backwards, clutching his injured wrist.

With his eyes still fixed on Qui-Gon's, Xanatos used the Force to undo the larger man's trousers, pulling them down. "Get on with it!" he hissed at his former Master.

Qui-Gon's face couldn't hide the shock, the sheer terror he felt - he knew exactly what his former apprentice was so callously ordering him to do. "Xanatos, I... I don't think I can do this."

The dark one glanced down at Qui-Gon's limp penis. "Oh, I think we can do something about that," he leered. Qui-Gon found himself pinned to the wall with Force-bonds. Xanatos dropped to his knees and slowly moved forward. When he reached Qui-Gon, one hand came up to gently fondle his balls. Slowly his licked and nipped along the inside of Qui-Gon's thighs and over his hip. When he could feel the man beginning to harden, Xanatos switched to a more direct route and swallowed him whole.

Qui-Gon struggled against the Force-bonds, moaning softly. He thrashed his head from side to side, lips parting and eyes sliding closed.

"No, no, no," he cried out in continual denial. He felt his own very real arousal and had to physically tense to stop from bucking into that warm, wet mouth. His tongue darted out to wet his lips. Xanatos was a very skilled lover; but Qui-Gon's mind rebelled that thought. Xanatos was not his lover; he was not going to become aroused.

But protest as his mind did, his body's traitorous reactions could not be stopped, and he found himself increasingly strained. His struggles, both physical and mental, increased and if it were not for the bonds holding him up, he would have collapsed from the intensity of the emotions.

When Qui-Gon was hard enough to please Xanatos, he let the cock drop from his mouth and quickly stood up. "Now, Qui-Gon." A strangled groan, only half-concealed, escaped Qui-Gon's lips as Xanatos mouth left him. The Force-bonds were released and the Jedi Master found himself pushed back over to his bound apprentice.

"No, no I won't. I refuse to hurt Obi-Wan." Qui-Gon's anger at his helplessness in the situation came through in his voice, and his hands balled to fists at his sides. Xanatos made no reply, instead powering up the vibro-blade once more and moving to stand by the padawan. As his attention shifted from the Master to the Padawan, he dragged the blade across Obi-Wan's shoulder, drawing a thin line of blood, which he bent over and lapped up.

"If you don't I will beat him until he screams for mercy. Then I will do it again. And again. And when thise isn't a single strip of skin left on him, I am going to take him. Hard. I will fuck him while he screams and pleads, and you will sit thise and watch and not be able to do a single thing to help. And THEN... Then you are going to have to explain to him why you wouldn't save him."

Qui-Gon paled, his eyes never leaving Obi-Wan's face. "Stop it, just stop it." He took a deep breath, feeling his ex-padawan's eyes on him. "I'll do it, just... just don't hurt him." Qui-Gon spoke in a quiet voice, barely above a whisper.

Qui-Gon sighed heavily, turning his back on Xanatos, his focus fully on Obi-Wan. He could do this, he had to. At least this way he could keep his Padawan from being injured too badly.

"So, Qui-Gon, you know what to do now." He leaned back against the wall, arms casually crossed over his chest.

Qui-Gon placed his hand at the small of Obi-Wan's back, rubbing soothingly as he bent over to whisper reassurances in his Padawan's ear.

"No!" As he heard the voice Qui-Gon felt himself being jerked back and slammed against the wall. Xanatos stalked toward him. "No. No comfort, no reassurances. You're not making love to him, or even having sex with him. You're screwing him, fucking him blind." He paused, the hatred in his eyes burning as he sneered, "Master."

He knew better than to look for mercy where there was none, and so, ruthlessly repressing his distress, he spread Obi-Wan gently, sliding a shaking finger into him to begin the slow process of preparing him for penetration.

"No." Xanatos forced Qui-Gon's hand away from Obi-Wan. "Remember what I said? Do it now. Fuck the boy raw." His voice raised as Qui-Gon pushed the limits of Xanatos' patience. He would keep control of the situation, no matter the cost. After all, his master would be most displeased if he failed in his task, and Xanatos' master was not a man you wanted to disappoint

Tears were beginning to gather in Qui-Gon's eyes as he turned back to Obi-Wan. "I'm sorry," he whispered, knowing his Padawan would never hear but needing to say the words anyway. He rested his cock at Obi-Wan's vulnerable opening, closed his eyes, and pushed.

He tried to go slowly, but Xanatos had other ideas, walking up behind Qui-Gon and slapping him on the ass. Qui-Gon shied away from the attack, unconsciously bucking forwards, burying his erection deep into Obi-Wan. Qui-Gon could feel Obi-Wan's flesh rip, and kept his eyes tightly shut, not wanting to see the blood that he could now feel flowing in the tight passage.

"And one more thing," Xanatos added quietly. "I want to see you come, to hear you cry out as you pump your seed into his helpless body."

Tears mixed with sweat on the young man's back as Qui-Gon forced himself to continue. He felt Obi-Wan stir beneath him as he regained consciousness, but Qui-Gon found himself unable to look at his padawan, his guilt was too strong.

Obi-Wan moaned, his muscles clenching as he tried to shy away, moaning again at the pain in his arms and from Qui-Gon's penetration of his virgin passage.

"I'm sorry," he whispered, eyes still shut tight. The instinct to protect, to comfort, was so strong he found himself reaching for the Force time and again, every time failing to grasp it. Frustration welled up in his chest as his feeling of helplessness grew.

Finally, after what seemed like an eternity, Qui-Gon thrust into the body before him for the last time and came with a sob. He pulled out as carefully as he could, flinching at Obi-Wan's now-constant moaning. Without thinking or doing anything about the blood smeared on him, he rapidly pulled his pants up, fastened them, and turned to face Xanatos.

The dark one before him smiled. "See? I knew you could do it." He moved next to the bound man and ran a finger down his spine, ending in a small pool of red, causing Obi-Wan to flinch away from the touch. Leisurely he brought the finger to his own mouth, then wiped it across Qui-Gon's lips.

Much to Xanatos' dismay, Qui-Gon didn't react in the slightest, just stood thise, wordlessly accepting.

"Guards!" Xanatos barked suddenly, and four strong men appeared almost instantaneously. "Take this man back to his cell." The men led an unresisting Qui-Gon out of the room.

Returning his attention to Obi-Wan, Xanatos unfastened the restraints around his arms, one hand stroking the abused ass and sending healing energy into it. When Xanatos was sure he had fixed all the damage, he rolled the younger man over onto his back, taking delight in the whimpers the action caused. Stoking the short, soft hair of the naked man, Xanatos' fingers finally settled on his temples. Slowly but surely, he began his Force-suggestions, implanting the images into Obi-Wan's mind, and sealing them thise as the truth: Qui-Gon slitting Greased Up Yoda Doll's throat; Qui-Gon attacking the guards and Xanatos; Qui-Gon chaining Obi-Wan to a bench and raping him.

Obi-Wan whimpered as these images were forced into his brain, his consciousness initially fighting the idea of Qui-Gon acting so brutal, but Xanatos was stronger than he, and he forced the padawan's mind into submission, filled with the images Obi-Wan now believed to be the truth.

Another Possible Explaination (2, Interesting)

Thedalek (473015) | more than 10 years ago | (#7409745)

What with the recent ruling by the Library of Congress regarding copying obsolete video games, the Gamecube was, technically an obsolete system. The actual wording of the law was that a system shall be considered obsolete if it is no longer manufactured OR is no longer reasonably available on the commercial market. Since only one of those conditions needs to be true, Nintendo may have resumed production just to keep copying of GameCube games illegal. Makes me wonder if they'll start making NES, SNES, and Virtual Boy systems again, but they'd also have to make them "reasonably available on the commercial market" (pre-owned doesn't count as "commercial").

Re:Another Possible Explaination (1)

phauxfinnish (698087) | more than 10 years ago | (#7409835)

wouldn't be too hard to have them available online (does that count as reasonably available?) and its not like too many people would be interested, maybe a few thousand units each of (S)NES and one or two Virtual Boys.

Re:Another Possible Explaination (4, Informative)

simoniker (40) | more than 10 years ago | (#7410150)

The Copyright Office/Library Of Congress ruling only applies to access protection circumvention under the DMCA - all copyrights are still valid, so if you copy 'abandonware', or even circumvent copy protection, it's still illegal.

There's been a lot of confusion about this, unfortunately, but the access circumvention was mainly to allow official institutions (who may or may not be allowed to keep a limited amount of copies for archival purposes) to archive old software properly. There's some possibility that if you personally own old software that only has access controls, and you want to make a copy, that may be allowed, but IANAL, heh.

Re:Another Possible Explaination (1)

Thedalek (473015) | more than 10 years ago | (#7413261)

Emm...

I didn't say otherwise. However, with the system classified as "obsolete", it would be perfectly legal for you to make backups of Gamecube games you own, and by extension, it would be legal to purchase devices which allowed such circumvention.

Nintendo was the one who basically purchased laws prohibiting game-cartridge copying hardware, and really don't want people backing up Gamecube games in the first place.

what a viewtiful price bundle (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7409789)

Too bad this may be the last hoorah for Nintendo before the Microsoft big money train tramples it with Xbox2 and its slew of low brow crack whore and filthy language laden games for the ADD generation.

I'm going to buy a GameCube... (1)

herrvinny (698679) | more than 10 years ago | (#7410687)

When Pokemon Colosseum comes out. I'm also going to grab the GBA game adapter for the GameCube, along with Rebel Strike and Zelda. But I won't even consider getting a GameCube without Colosseum. Anyone at Nintendo listening?

Sad day for trolls (-1)

Mr.Dippy (613292) | more than 10 years ago | (#7411051)

As a Nintendo hateing troll, I am very disappointed with this news. My Nintedo bashing arguments have taken a turn for the worse. I still say giving Mario a water gun is fucking gay. But still, 100 bucks for a system and a zelda collection? Damn!

mmmh (2, Interesting)

imperator_mundi (527413) | more than 10 years ago | (#7411290)

Don't really think that "stop the production of the gamecube" "dropping the price" "restart the production" are three unrelated decision... maybe I'm just xfiling (but well the thruth is out ther, no?), but to me it sounds like a multi step marketing strategy:

1) Big N claims that GC struggle in misery, developper ain't to do any further game, etc.

2) This generation of consoles is over (or so says Nintendo), everybody start to speak about GC2, Xbox2, PS3, Big N stops the production of the GC.

3) Price are dropped so much that everybody who possibly would rather play Zelda or Mario buy the GC (hey man it's just 99 bucks)

4) Nintendo starts the stats festival: "we're up of 3% while the others are down of 15%", GC+GBA dominate the console market with a combined share of more than 50%, etc

5) Eventually Nintendo restarts the production of the GC, so the next Xmas season will start with a diffuse feeling that Nintendo is doing very well and GC is about to win the console's war.

Re:mmmh (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7411642)

1. Nintendo never claimed that they were ceasing production indefinitely, or that they were stopping games production or development. If you were confused about this, I can hardly imagine how many others were as well. That kind of confusion is hardly the kind of thing that Nintendo would want to risk.

2. The last thing Nintendo (or Sony, or M$) wants is for people to ignore the current generation in anticipation of the next. That simply leads to lost revenue for both the console manufacturers and the game publishers they are supporting.

3. The price drop was designed to clear inventory, but it was an easy step to make. The fast and loose rumor on the net is that the Cube costs $20 to manufacture. I don't support that low number, but I have no reason to doubt that Nintendo is still profiting from Cube sales at the $99 price point, either. The raw materials at face value are less expensive than for either the PS2 or the Xbox, and prices at the component level must be comparable. But the lack of DVD Consortium licensing fees must help here, same way it helps Microsoft (DVD software is in DVD pack, can't play DVDs without it).

4. Nintendo's statistics gamesmanship is no different than anyone else's. Trumpet your wins and ignore your losses. Sega did the same thing in the Dreamcast days, and we lost them for good. Not enough people fought the good fight and supported them (DC games are awesome). But Nintendo was smart in its timing. Starting the holiday season with good news is brilliant, because shoppers who do any kind of research at all see this and take it into consideration. Microsoft is currently trying to play this game by bragging about how 83,652 gamers played on Xbox Live this past weekend. Well, that's chump change when the installed base of console owners are in the XX millions, but I digress. The point is, everybody dresses up for the media.

5. Bingo. I was responding to your points on a point-by-point basis, so I didn't know you had come to this conclusion when I typed what I typed above. Eh, I'll leave the paragraph alone.

Re:mmmh (1)

AuMatar (183847) | more than 10 years ago | (#7411701)

You're thinking too much. They weren't selling, so they halted production. They cut prices, so people bought more. Having sold out their excess inventory, they are restarting production. All sound buisness decisions, nothing shady at all.

You forgot one thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412319)

6) Profit!

WTF (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7411341)

I saw the word 'Nintendo' and immediately clicked it but the article that forecasts the end of Nintendo seems to be missing.

Finally good news! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7411443)

Now, this are good news for the Big N!, I couldnt believe some people were happy with some pointless discount, and a new line up of games that includes pacman for 4 players, meanwhile their console was basically discontinued. Good for you! now let good titles for next year roll. ...

Re:Finally good news! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7411824)

Re pointless discount: $50 is a lot of money to many people. If given the opportunity to save $50 on something I was planning to buy anyways, I'd take it. If I wasn't already planning on buying something, I might now consider it. I think that was the point.

Re discontinuation: It was never discontinued. The production halt was always planned to be temporary, as a stock-clearing mechanism. Don't think that Dell keeps the lines rolling 24/7 on Optiplex systems, either.

Re Cube lineup: The Pacman game has almost nobody excited, except some overly-retro folks like me, and maybe some gaming parents. But lots of the current and upcoming games do, incuding Mario Kart, Killer 7, the upcoming J-RPGs, etc. Recent releases can't be ignored, with Soul Calibur 2 (Link edition), Simpsons Hit & Run, F-Zero GX, Viewtiful Joe, Auto Modellista, Ninja Turtles, P.N. 03, Mega Man Network Transmission, SSX3, and Billy Hatcher throwing some weight around in Cube-Land.

I like my PS2 a lot too, but Nintendo 1st-party exclusives and 3rd-party exclusives and multiplatform games have honestly been a lot more exciting on the Cube for the past 2-3 months. If it wasn't for RPGs and the odd retro-homage game like MGS2, Rygar, Contra:SS, or Castlevania:LoI, I could live without the PS2 at this point.

Gamecube now #2 - IGN.com (2, Informative)

BTWR (540147) | more than 10 years ago | (#7411595)

According to this [ign.com] story from IGN, Nintento sales have quadrupled and market share has doubled. From the article:

GameCube now runs a 'strong second' to PlayStation 2 in monthly sales, at least based on October sell-through data." It doubled its previous 19 percent [marketshare] piece of the pie to 37 percent. Combined with sales of Game Boy Advance SP -- it accounts for 'half of all system sales in 2003.

Re:Gamecube now #2 - IGN.com (2, Informative)

Shadarr (11622) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412737)

I'm pretty sure "market share" in this context refers to percentage of total consoles sold that month, rather than percentage of total consoles sold ever. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure PS2 still holds a huge lead in total sales this generation (not counting the GBA).

Sweet! (1)

ChewBakaSan (708686) | more than 10 years ago | (#7419656)

This is a good thing, Because Nintendo has always had the games like Zelda and Mario, and it would be sad if those games disappeared.
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