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UIUC Creates World's Fastest Transistor Again

CowboyNeal posted more than 10 years ago | from the breaking-one's-own-record dept.

Education 233

An anonymous reader writes "The University of Illinois has developed (again) the world's fastest transistor operating at over 500 GHz. They used an indium phosphide based wafer, and super-scaled dimensions. The device kind of looks like a spaceship." Milton Feng, the professor in charge of the team behind the transistor, admits that their ultimate goal is a terahertz transistor, which given their previous achievements, doesn't sound too lofty.

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GNAA Announces responsibility for kernel backdoor (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412511)

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Does Jessica count? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412618)

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Re:Does Jessica count? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412693)

I work for the Iraqis and am therefore posting anonymously. While this was done on purpose, it was by a sole Iraqi battalion, and not a decision by Iraq. That battalion has since been rewarded with the highest medal possible, the Iron Shit and Blood Encrusted Cock (ISBEC).

great! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412517)

now just get hard drives to transfer data that fast and we'll be set to actually use all that clock speed!!

I'm waiting for... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412522)

...a computer composed completely of energy. Bypassing electrons, protons, completely. Why do we have to do "hacks" on matter for computers?

Re:I'm waiting for... (1)

Roofus (15591) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412565)

Doesn't energy constitute matter?

Re:I'm waiting for... (1)

Gherald (682277) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412789)

> Doesn't energy constitute matter?

Of course, just divide by c^2 ....

Can you imagine... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412523)

...a beowulf cluster of these?

Re:Can you imagine... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412571)

It's called a microchip.

DARPA (-1, Troll)

herrvinny (698679) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412524)

The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency funded the work.


I wonder how many people they can kill using this chip?

Re:DARPA (1)

dakryx (646923) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412535)

Same amount of people they can kill using the internet?

Re:DARPA (2, Insightful)

localghost (659616) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412545)

DARPA funds a lot of scientific research. This is a good thing. It doesn't neccessarily affect them directly, but advancements such as this will likely benefit everyone, so it's worth it for them to put money into.

Also, it isn't a chip, it's a single transistor.

Re:DARPA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412581)

as many will sit in a spaceship with dubs

Re:DARPA (1)

AuMatar (183847) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412650)

At least as many as the internet, they funded that too.

Re:DARPA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412690)

you're an ASS. you think DARPA just funds projects so they can go around killing people? grow up.

Wetbacks and gooks to start... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412707)

Then wroke on queers and niggers next.

Misconceptions about DARPA (3, Funny)

roesti (531884) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412764)

I wonder how many people they can kill using this chip?

DARPA is a research arm staffed heavily by scientists, so it's perhaps a little more noble than its DoD links might suggest. The Internet is an obvious example: DARPA invented the Internet to distract computer nerds from procreation, to the benefit of future generations.

Nope, still has military use... (1)

benjamindees (441808) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412831)

DARPA invented the Internet to distract computer nerds from procreation, to the benefit of future generations of military recruiters and officers.

Obligatory.. (2)

Mr12inch(Powerbook) (677185) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412525)

...Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these! or better yet, can this fit into a Powerbook?

Re:Obligatory.. (1)

bryhhh (317224) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412553)

RTFA

That would simply be called, "A Processor"

Re:Obligatory.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412664)

A+ exchange guys. you dudes just ripped off a couple of AC's.

Can you imagine... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 06, @06:37PM (#7412523) ...a beowulf cluster of these?
[ Reply to This ]

Re:Can you imagine... (Score:0)
by Anonymous Coward on Thursday November 06, @06:43PM (#7412571)
It's called a microchip.
[ Reply to This | Parent ]

Re:Obligatory.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412700)

+5 Informative

Whoop-e-fucking-doo

Re:Obligatory.. (1)

KiwiEngineer (585036) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412725)

The soviet russians did it years ago ;-)

Re:Obligatory.. (2, Funny)

ThogScully (589935) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412811)

Tough to port Linux to a single transistor, but I'll give $5 to anyone who can.
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Faster and faster (1)

CrypticSpawn (719164) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412538)

Wow Moore's Law at its best. I wonder what is the cost for manufactoring those, perhaps too much to mass produce?

Moore's Law? (0)

Nonki (682234) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412539)

A jump from 3ghZ to 500+ghZ isn't really spot on with Moore's Law [intel.com] is it? This is far from mere doubling.

Re:Moore's Law? (1)

WARM3CH (662028) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412584)

It's just ONE transistor, not a 100+ million transistor VSLI chip. Well, we'll eventually get there but not next year so don't worry much about Mr. Moore :)

Re:Moore's Law? (3, Informative)

26199 (577806) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412589)

True -- but you can't use these on a normal chip. The potential pitfalls are huge... you need to be able to get enough of them into a small space, you need to be able to dissipate the power, the manufacturing process needs to be cheap enough to be economically viable... and so on.

A single transistor isn't all that impressive by itself :-)

(Actually, does anyone know how fast the transistors on desktop processor are? Each clock cycle has to wait several transistor delays, after all.)

Re:Moore's Law? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412726)

I know that the ALU for the p4 runs at twice the chip frequency, so thats at least a max of 6.4 ghz

Depends... (3, Interesting)

raehl (609729) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412599)

If it takes 12 years for these new transistors to make it into commercially available processors, then it would be spot-on with Moore's Law.

Was the fastest transistor 12 years ago 3 GHz? Probably.

Read the link you linked to. Mod parent down. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412638)

Moore's law observes that the NUMBER OF TRANSISTORS, not the speed, grows exponentially. If you believe it's speed that grows exponentially, you've fallen victim to bad journalists who've fallen victim to evil marketers.

WOOT proud to live in champaign (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412540)

proud to live in champaign!! GOGO UIUC!

Re:WOOT proud to live in champaign (1)

christopher240240 (633932) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412695)

Hey me too!!!

Cost break! (5, Funny)

Hegemony (104638) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412541)

Sweet, now the 250 Ghz's will be totally affordable.

Slightly over optimistic (1, Funny)

tarquin_fim_bim (649994) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412542)

"During the past year, high-speed transistor records have fallen like dominoes on the Illinois campus."

January: 382
May: 452
October: 509
I'm no statistics expert but extrapolating those results I estimate they'll top out at 690 in June 2005

Re:Slightly over optimistic (1)

Chairboy (88841) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412623)

I suppose that if they were stacking bricks, then your extrapolation might mean something.

Supposedly they have a better idea of the pace of their development then you do.

"I'm no statistics expert" indeed.

Re:Slightly over optimistic (2, Interesting)

mslj (722208) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412706)

Indeed. There are hardly enough reference points to make a reliable extrapolation. If I extrapolated backwards in the same way, I would go negative in the nineties (and that's just impossible).

Re:Slightly over optimistic (1)

tarquin_fim_bim (649994) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412732)

Without an unforeseen technological advance, progress will be limited by simple mechanics so unwittingly your bricks analogy is almost apt.

Re:Slightly over optimistic (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412683)

see, this is how you do it. look how he got modded up and his post was easy to read:

Improvement (Score:3, Funny)
by Carnildo (712617) on Thursday November 06, @06:45PM (#7412582)
From the article:
150 nm, 382 GHz
100 nm, 452 GHz
75 nm, 509 GHz

At their current rate of improvement, a 680GHz device will have a collector size of 0 nm. Just imagine what will happen once they manage negative sizes!
--
"They redundantly repeated themselves over and over again incessantly without end" -- anon.

Re:Slightly over optimistic not really (1)

Elminst (53259) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412776)

IANAS (I am not a statistician ;) )
If you go by percent increase, they've been averaging 115.5% increase every 4.5 months.

If they keep that up, they'll hit 588GHz in March 2004, 679GHZ in late august 2004.
By June 2005, they'll be breaking 900GHz.

Wow! (1)

Phoenixhunter (588958) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412543)

I'm sure Gordon Moore is rolling in his grave! Wait, he isn't dead yet...

ahaha (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412551)

w00t

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You fucked that up bigtime. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412612)

Absolutely horrendous formatting, plus your "link" isn't a link.

(Use the Preview Button! Check those URLs!)

500GHz?!! I'll change my job! (4, Insightful)

WARM3CH (662028) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412555)

When I started designing hardware circuits, the world was much more beautiful. You could understand everything that your small micro-processor based system did, downto the function of the BJTs in the TTL devices down there... Then Intel started the 1GHz race and I had to learn a great deal of RF techniques to just design my next PCB. And now 500GHz?!!! At this rate, a few years later I'll have to learn more about RF and then eventually optics than next hot FSM synthesis algorithm! I guess I'd better change my job, start something more calm and steady, like paiting or ...

Re:500GHz?!! I'll change my job! (1)

CrypticSpawn (719164) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412576)

HAHA, you got to admit it makes things interesting.

Packaging (1)

Detritus (11846) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412676)

How do you package a 500 GHz transistor? And I thought UHF transistors and stripline construction was exotic stuff.

don't worry about it too much (2, Insightful)

lingqi (577227) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412705)

it's a 509GHz *TRANSISTOR*, not a chip. even for the transistors on a P4, they also operate at a "speed" much faster than the actual chip operations - after all, to squeeze 3+ GHz out of a chip, which has tons of gates connected one after another, isn't exactly a "everybody switch at once" deal.

besides, for real high speed stuff people are moving toward serial on PCB anyway, parallel just doesn't work anymore past a certain point due to the increased capacitance that's caused by traces getting tighter with eachother (need more traces for more pins)...

Almost all (i'd wager to say "all" but there might be some tiny companies i don't know about) FPGA manufactures include serdes (serializer / deserializer) ports on their chips, usually more than one - those go at 6+GHz (faster ones due out are 10GHz), but PCB still handles that because it's only a few pins compared to, a DDR bus.

Re:don't worry about it too much (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412735)

Actually, it's the mutual inductance that's the killer.

Re:don't worry about it too much (1)

WARM3CH (662028) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412787)

Bear with me that your FPGA example is not that easy that it sounds when you need to connect more than two chips... Differential lines on the PCB are very difficult things if you don't have specialized CAD tools to automate their routing and design. In the past the most advanced tool you'd buy would be simple autorouter to do your PCB but now to design a 200Hz motherboard you need to have an autorouter plus 100+ highspeed design rules, then pass it to a EMC tool to analyze the noise, crosstalk, reflections, emissions... 200MHz?!! We're talking about serious RF here not an audio circuit!

Re:don't worry about it too much (1)

GigsVT (208848) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412923)

What's the point of a 500Ghz transistor if you aren't going to switch it that fast?

Even serial has RF problems, at 1Ghz, the resonant antenna is about 25cm. At 10Ghz, the resonant antenna is only 1/2 an inch. RF becomes much more of an issue.

They can have 1 terrahertz now (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412561)

All you do is put two together? thats 1 terrahertz.

Why aren't people logical?

Re:They can have 1 terrahertz now (1)

Luigi30 (656867) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412750)

They are. Ever heard of the 8008? 2 4004s stuck together.

Re:They can have 1 terrahertz now (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412807)

No, that's 2 500Ghz's. Having 2 cars going along at 500mph is not the same as having one car going along at 1000mph.

Why aren't people logical?

--
Dr Spock

But what about thermal efficiency? (1, Funny)

The One KEA (707661) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412570)

Will we all need an Asetek VapoChill [hothardware.com] to keep chips using these things cool?

Re:But what about thermal efficiency? (1)

1000101 (584896) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412723)


Nah, I heard this guy [the411online.com] will be keeping things cool.

Improvement (4, Funny)

Carnildo (712617) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412582)

From the article:
150 nm, 382 GHz
100 nm, 452 GHz
75 nm, 509 GHz

At their current rate of improvement, a 680GHz device will have a collector size of 0 nm. Just imagine what will happen once they manage negative sizes!

Re:Improvement (4, Funny)

spektr (466069) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412688)

Just imagine what will happen once they manage negative sizes!

I imagine: 800i GHz in the first generation and even more imaginary in the following years!

Re:Improvement (1)

wizrd_nml (661928) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412691)

That's actually an interesting point. Assuming for the sake of argument your extrapolation is correct, it's an indication that we're close to the limit of that technology. Looking at it in a very simplistic way it seems like all further improvements to this transistor is just about making it smaller in order to make it faster. And as you indicated, there's only so far you can go with that.

It's time for a new paradigm shift. It's time to look at exploring new technologies in this field, including some of those already being looked at.

Re:Improvement (1)

Carnildo (712617) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412729)

My extrapolation isn't correct. I fit a line to the last two data points, when I probably should have fit a logarithmic curve to all three points. That's not to say there isn't a limit -- it's just that my prediction is going about it the wrong way.

Re:Improvement (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412722)

Just imagine what will happen once they manage negative sizes!

It works for women's clothing, why not here?

Wise words from the chief developer: (5, Funny)

spektr (466069) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412598)

The University of Illinois has developed again the world's fastest transistor operating at over 500 GHz

If only they had documented the damn thing, they wouldn't have to develop it twice!

Re:Wise words from the chief developer: (3, Funny)

i.r.id10t (595143) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412641)

Yeah, but no one ever reads the documentation...

Usage (1)

fredrikj (629833) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412600)

Their latest device, with a frequency of 509 gigahertz, is 57 gigahertz faster than their previous record holder and could find use in applications such as high-speed communications products, consumer electronics and electronic combat systems

Or to be a little less specific: uh, pretty much everywhere where electronic transistors are used today.

indium phosphide valley (3, Funny)

seriv (698799) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412601)

which are built from silicon and germanium, the Illinois transistors are made from indium phosphide and indium gallium arsenide.
Maybe they should call Champaign Indium Phosphide Valley.
-Seriv
(it is stupid I know)

Well, Duh! (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412604)

."The steady rise in the speed of bipolar transistors has relied largely on the vertical scaling of the epitaxial layer structure to reduce the carrier transit time," said Milton Feng, the Holonyak Professor of Electrical and Computer Engineering at Illinois, whose team has been working on high-speed compound semiconductor transistors since 1995. "However, this comes at the cost of increasing the base-collector capacitance. To compensate for this unwanted effect, we have employed lateral scaling of both the emitter and the collector."

I mean, that's just blindingly obvious.

Re:Well, Duh! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412853)

"The steady rise in the speed of bipolar transistors has relied largely on the vertical scaling of the epitaxial layer structure to reduce the carrier transit time," said Milton Feng, the Holonyak Professor of Electrical and Computer Engineering at Illinois, whose team has been working on high-speed compound semiconductor transistors since 1995. "However, this comes at the cost of increasing the base-collector capacitance. To compensate for this unwanted effect, we have employed lateral scaling of both the emitter and the collector."
I mean, that's just blindingly obvious.

Yawn, right. I saw this star trek episode twice, too.

Already exists! (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412607)

By all the compound words in there, I'm pretty sure this has been nicked from star trek!

Used for Product Espionage (Oblig Simpsons) (3, Funny)

The_Rippa (181699) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412624)

Earlier today, the blazing speed of the transistor was put to the test to pull apart the makeup of the sought-after "Flaming Homer"

Prof. Frink of the University of Illinois had this to say...

"Brace yourselves gentlemen. According to the new transistor, the secret ingredient is...Love!? Who's been screwing with this thing?"

Transistor Type (2, Informative)

CoolToddHunter (605159) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412633)

This isn't a FET like the transistors found in computers (and just about everything else). This is bi-polar technology that uses much more power than FET. They're looking for speed only to make possible very demanding applications like direct microwave processing.

Re:Transistor Type (2, Interesting)

G4from128k (686170) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412786)

This isn't a FET like the transistors found in computers (and just about everything else). This is bi-polar technology that uses much more power than FET.

True, but there are technologies that combine CMOS and Bipolar for faster CPU designs (I think BiCMOS was more heavily used back in the 90s). Also IBM is working on mixed material, mixed technology that combines SiGe bipolar chips on a CMOS silicon-on-insulator wafer [extremetech.com] . You never know what those researchers will do next.

How Long Till SkyNet is Operational? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412643)


'The Terminator design was based off of a former governor of California...' ;-P

Don't get your hopes up... (2, Insightful)

Escaflowne (199760) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412651)

Too bad current Computer Technology doesn't use indium phosphide and indium gallium arsenide. It would take years for fabs just to adjust to a new material and yield decently.

Also as someone stated, it's just one transistor not the hundreds of millions that are in current technology (all acting in "harmony").

Then again, this is a great discovery and a step in the right direction. I'm very proud of my Alma Mater. Too bad I didn't have a class with Professor Feng.

Are you ready for lots of latency? (4, Insightful)

G4from128k (686170) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412654)

At 1 THz, it will take more than 40 clock cycles for a signal to move across a 1/2 inch die of the CPU. And it will take 320 clock cycles for a round-trip to a memory location just 2 inches away. (And that is assuming the signals travel at the speed of light in a vacuum, not the slower speed found in metal traces or optical fibers.) Should make it interesting for chip designers.

Re:Are you ready for lots of latency? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412741)

Woo hoo...bring on the wave pipelined buses.

Re:Are you ready for lots of latency? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412848)

Presumably, you don't need that frequency all over the CPU. It would perhaps be good enough if you could have tiny task-specialized units performing multiple local operations within the timeframe of each CPU-wide cycle. Hell, that's how computers work today already :P

RF is Obsolete? (1)

femto (459605) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412655)

I guess this is another step along the road to removing the analog frontends in radio frequency systems, to be replaced by digital frontends connected to the antenna.

So what's the vote: will RF designers be obsolete, or will digital designers have to become RF designers?

Re:RF is Obsolete? (4, Funny)

Bingo Foo (179380) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412887)

So what's the vote: will RF designers be obsolete, or will digital designers have to become RF designers?

Ah, grasshopper: when you understand that the answer is "both" and "neither," then you will be on the path to entanglement.

Acedemic papers? (1)

batura (651273) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412656)

I looked around and didn't come up with any. Has anyone seen the real papers on this stuff? It'd be interesting to see the transfer characteristics of this transistor.

Urbana, Illinois (1)

sonicattack (554038) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412670)

There should be a factory nearby that could need these.

So, how far from the university is the HAL plant?

Misinterpreted (5, Informative)

Takahashi (409381) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412673)

It seems like every time an article like this is on slash dot a million people say "wow I can't wait for a computer using that technology".

What people _don't_ understand is this is not the same technology as is used in a microprocessor. CPUs used Field Effect Transistors. The advantage of FETs is that there is no gate-drain current when the transistor isn't switching so they take very little power. With a bi-polar transistor, you are using a current switch, which would take massive amounts of current if you put many of these into an IC.

A more realistic application would be in communications systems where your carrier frequency is at 500Ghz.

Sorry to burst your bubble but you won't see 500Ghz computers next year. Maybe not ever using CMOS.

Re:Misinterpreted (1)

TooManyNames (711346) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412852)

Ahh... But I want my computer to function as an industrial pizza oven too.

has to be said... (1)

mekkab (133181) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412702)

"Indium GaAs is the technology of the future - and always will be."

Sounds great, can't wait to see it in commercial use, but I'm not holding my breath.

Re:has to be said... (1)

GigsVT (208848) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412781)

How bad is that stuff for the environment?

Is the arsenic stable in that form?

Staggering :-) (1)

HarveyBirdman (627248) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412742)

I hear it contains an entire bit of storage, but, sadly, it's volatile.

Re:Staggering :-) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412906)

Sadly, a single transitor isn't a memory circuit.

Looks like a spaceship? (2, Funny)

Gallifrey (221570) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412759)

Obviously the submitter is a Dr. Who fan.

No, that would be a Tardis... (0)

NoNine (690801) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412809)

A spaceship would be GW Bush's description.

Looks like a transistor to me.

How do you measure things that fast (3, Interesting)

azpcox (88971) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412768)

If it's the fastest transistor out there, how can you measure teh switching speeds with something slower?

The important thing to remember is *reliability* (1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7412806)

While it's wonderful that they can create a 300fs inverter, you also have to consider that they have yet to prove that they can actually mass-produce these structures to get adequate yields. This is not a trivial operation. Bell Labs, IBM, Intel, and AMD have all announced ultra-small and/or ultra-fast transistor structures, but they all admit that they are far from mass-producing them on a wafer/die.

Also - the rest of the componentry in a computer or other electronic structure, and how it will all communicate all of these calculations, will also be a problem. Already, integrated circuit I/O circuits are having trouble transporting data back and forth on a PCB.

ALSO, consider that the photolithography tools that are supposed to support the next generation of smaller structures are already off-track. 157nm lithography tools have been delayed due to development and financial difficulties.). My personal guess is that the vertical MOSFETs will be the winners in the short term because, until they get other trinity and neo die a truce is made the matrix cointinues to exist factors in line, they will have to make do with what they've got, though *again* the additional processing required for the wafer will impact yields, so it will be an expensive technology to implement either way.

HAL of 2001: A Space Odyssey - getting there... (1)

Stig_Soleng (584809) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412820)

"I am a HAL 9000 computer, production number three. I became operational at the HAL pland in Urbana, Illinois on January 12th 1997." - Arthur C. Clarke

They are six years late allready, about time they're trying to catch up!

I think HAL is still the most interesting thing to come out of Urbana-Champaign... See this site [2001halslegacy.com] for more information.

Faster video games??? (1)

Pedrito (94783) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412821)

Faster transistors would enable the creation of faster computers and video games

Wow, as long as it's being done for something important like video games. I thought they may be pissing away their money on something stupid and useless like bettering humanity.

Re:Faster video games??? (2, Funny)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412850)

> I thought they may be pissing away their money on something
> stupid and useless like bettering humanity.

You'll never better humanity by spending money on technology.

Re:Faster video games??? (0, Troll)

Pedrito (94783) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412910)

You'll never better humanity by spending money on technology.

Yeah, you're right. All that money spent on medical research, artificial hearts, pace makers, water purification technology, improved crop yields due to improved pesticides in third world countries, penicillin, what a total waste of time and money.

Hey, I know that guy! (1)

Dop (123) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412822)

I lived with one of the grad students for 4 years. I like to think me and the other Special Sauce Ninjas had a lot to do with his development as an undergrad. Our constant harrassment helped him develop an amazing resolve and the willpower to ignore any temptation in the face of his work.

Congratulations, Fleetwood.

Crapsticks... (2, Funny)

Kyn (539206) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412841)

Oh shit. I have a test on transistors (ECE 340, Solid State Device Electronics) tonight and attend UIUC...they better fucking not test us on this... :(

Duh (1)

BlueTrin (683373) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412858)

So it means that I'll need to buy a new comp to run Longhorn at a decent speed ?

Party (1, Funny)

pagercam2 (533686) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412861)

I hope the nerds at UIUC have some better line than:


"Hey babe, my transistor swicthes at 509GHz thats GHz not MHz"


Chicks just don't appreciate fast transistors anymore.

But it's still planar (2, Insightful)

freidog (706941) | more than 10 years ago | (#7412897)

which means (even if they produce a FET version) it's still going to have the terrible electrical characteristics we see in today's transistors. Lots of bleeding and heat in the off state. I'd much rather see people focusing on something like Intel's trigate [electronicstalk.com] transistor. While current transistors can handle and 8 or 10 ghz CPU, nothing will dissipate the KWatt or so the chip would dissipate.....
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