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SCO Fires back, Subpoenas Stallman, Torvalds et al

timothy posted more than 10 years ago | from the subpoenas-envy dept.

Caldera 1145

SirFozzie writes "SCO has just, within the past hour, announced that they have fired back against IBM's legal broadside, with one of their own, filing subpoenas against several of the biggest names in Linux. SCO filed subpoenas with the U.S. District Court in Utah, targeting six different individuals or organizations. Those include Novell; Linus Torvalds, creator of the Linux kernel; Richard Stallman of the Free Software Foundation; Stewart Cohen, chief executive of the Open Source Development Labs; and John Horsley, general counsel of Transmeta."

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tsarkon reports on a greased up yoda doll in anus (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7457130)

9 steps to greasing your anus for yoda doll insertion NEWLY REVISED!

1) defecate. preferably after eating senna, ex lax, prunes, cabbage and hot sauces.

2) wipe ass with witch hazel, soothes horrific burns

3) prime anus with anal ease.

4) slather richly a considerable amount of vaseline or other anal lubricants into your rectum at least until the bend and also take your yoda doll or yoda soap on a rope and liberally apply it.

5) pucker your ballon knot several times actuating the sphincter muscle in order to work it in

6) put a do-rag on yoda's head so the ears don't stick out like daggers! Source of this information is here. Thank you so much, it makes Gay Geek Yoda Insertion so much less of a medical problem now! [slashdot.org]

7) slowly rest yourself onto your yoda figurine

8) make sure to have a mechanism by which to fish yoda out of your rectum, the soap on the rope is especially useful because that is built in.

9) gyrate gleefully in your computer chair while your fat sexless geek nerd loser fat shit self enjoys the prostate massage you'll be getting. Read slashdot. Masturbate to anime. Email one of the editors hoping they will honor you with a reply. Join several more dating services - this time, you dont check the (desired - speaks english) and (desired - literate). You figure you might get a chance then. Order some fucking crap from Think Geek. Get Linux to boot on a Black And Decker Appliance. Wish you could afford a new computer. Argue that IDE is better than SCSI because you cant afford SCSI. Make claims about how Linux rules. Compile a kernel on your 486SX. Claim to hate windows but use it for Everquest. Admire Ghyslain's courage in making that wonderful star wars movie. Officially convert to the Jedi religion. Talk about how cool Mega Tokyo is. Try and make sure you do your regular 50 story submissions to Slashdot, all of which get rejected because people who arent fatter than CowboyNeal can't submit. Fondle shrimpy penis while making a yoda voice and saying, feel the force, padawan, feeel the foooorce, hurgm. Yes. Yes. When 900 years you reach, a dick half as big you will not have.

All in a days work with a yoda figurine rammed up your ass.

Re:tsarkon reports on a greased up yoda doll in an (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7457185)

How old are you, 10? 12? Does your mommy know you're using the computer?

Re:tsarkon reports on a greased up yoda doll in an (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7457221)

Your skull is a festering quagmire of feculent slime.

How dumb are you? 80iq? 70iq?

Does your gay lover know you're on welfare? Don't tell me; you didn't tell him you were HIV positive. How rude.

Calm down children! (-1, Redundant)

polyp2000 (444682) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457133)

No way, this is such a god damn slanging match!

THIS MAN IS STRETCHING HIS INCREDIBLE ANUS! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7457212)

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100,000,000,000 press releases! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7457135)

Shhh! You are breaking my concentration! I'm trying to shed a bitter tear for them. Ok, I'll stop now. Darl's mommy: "Sorry son, but while you were out playing, I got myself a new boyfriend. Normally I would have to pay top dollar for bullshit that rich and strong.

This Comment was generated with the Comment-O-Matic for SCO Stories. [rageagainst.net]

SUBPOENA THE GREASED UP YODA DOLL SHOVED UP MY ASS (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7457146)

LITIGATE LINUX!

How about an investigation (4, Insightful)

nate nice (672391) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457160)

Lets see how M$ or some other Linux enemy is in some way funding SCO here. There is something going on beyond what we see my intuition tells me.

Re:How about an investigation (2, Insightful)

SpaceLifeForm (228190) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457225)

How about a carefully orchestrated conspiracy?

Did Linus have anything to do with the IBM contract?

Re:How about an investigation (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7457237)

um MS bought several unix liscences from sco like a year ago. no mysetery really. but the real motive is sco's own greed. it just so happens that it coincides withs MS's goals so they threw some money at it.

Do you suppose? (2)

Nate_weather_guy (203228) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457353)

Do you suppose that the timimg of the Microsoft proclamation on the death of free software coincides with these subpoenas for a reason?

I like the saying... (5, Funny)

Mercaptan (257186) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457161)

"When the elephants fight, it is the grass that suffers."

Re:I like the saying... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7457223)

I like the saying:

If a fagot poses
as
a
wise
man,
he is still a
fagot.

Oh yay (4, Funny)

grub (11606) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457163)


Swell, Stallman will be rocking in his chair, picking fleas from his beard and muttering "GNU/SCO.. GNU/SCO.. GNU/SCO.." It's like a strawman argument against the millions of free software users..

Re:Oh yay (1)

bobthemuse (574400) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457247)

I'm just waiting for GNUSCO.com to be registered by Stallman.

... and the clash of the lawyers continues...

I don't THINK so (4, Interesting)

sphealey (2855) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457248)

Swell, Stallman will be rocking in his chair, picking fleas from his beard and muttering "GNU/SCO.. GNU/SCO.. GNU/SCO.." It's like a strawman argument against the millions of free software users.
Keep in mind the line from The Firm: "Remember - he's smarter than you.". Stallman will be well-prepared by Moglen. He will probably leave SCO's top-notch lawyers tied up in knots by their own questions.

sPh

Re:I don't THINK so (-1, Flamebait)

bongoras (632709) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457331)

assuming that he takes a shower first, that is.

RMS will demand that the subpoena be GPLed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7457165)

I bet RMS won't submit to this --- unless the results of the subpoena are GPLed!

sad but fun (2, Funny)

selderrr (523988) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457170)

for us europeans, the US legal system is like a free TV channel : mostly crap, but sometimes a true gem is broadcasted.
On the other hand, i feel for those who live in it

Re:sad but fun (0, Offtopic)

pixelgeek (676892) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457238)

>> for us europeans, the US legal system is like
>> a free TV channel : mostly crap, but sometimes
>> a true gem is broadcasted.

Which I think is an unintentional comment on /. given the previous comment about Stallman picking fleas from his beard.

Re:sad but fun (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7457275)

yer a peein', heh heh!

Re:sad but fun (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7457375)

Yeah.

Hey, good luck with all those unassimilated Muslim immigrants. Have fun under Sharia.

Finally! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7457174)

This WWF match between IBM and SCO is getting good. IBM has sent the crack fiends into a rage.

Re:Finally! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7457213)

What does the world wildlife foundation have to do with SCO and IBM?

Re:Finally! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7457308)

I think he meant the WWE, which we all know is real.

Bruce Perens (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7457176)

I bet ol' Brucie is pissed that he's not considered a "big name in Linux" by SCO.

Courtroom Drama?? (5, Funny)

bacon-kidney-pie (717079) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457177)

Lawyer: Mr Stallman, can you explain what GNU is? Stallman: Gnu's Not Unix
Lawyer: Yes, Mr Stallman, but can you please answer the question.
Stallman: Gnu's Not Unix
ad infinitum.

Re:Courtroom Drama?? (2, Funny)

wed128 (722152) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457240)

Lawyer: Mr Stallman, What part of Linux did you provide work in?
Stallman: It's GNU/Linux dammit! Linux just jumped in HURD's shoes! I never meant it, I swear!

Re:Courtroom Drama?? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7457301)

thanks for not making YET ANOTHER STUPID JOKE about GNU/Linux.

so I will:

Lawyer: now, this linux operating system that you wrote...

RMS: excuse me. Linux is a kernel, not an operating system. if you refer to a Linux-based operating system you should call it GNU/Linux. Also, I didn't write it, I wrote a text editor, a make system, part of a C library, and some other programs.

Lawyer: right, the new Linux, is that different than the old one?

RMS: not "new" Linux, GNU/Linux .. Guh-Noo Linn-Ucks. Also, I didn't write the Linux kernel, that guy over there did.

Lawyer: Okay forget that.. Mr Stallman, when is the last time you bathed?

Re:Courtroom Drama?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7457351)

didnt think that was that funny til I got to the last line. mod that one up :D

Free Software Foundation? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7457183)

More like Gay Software Foundation if you ask me.

Re:Free Software Foundation? (-1, Offtopic)

el_diavalo (582943) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457234)

Anonymous Coward? More like Anonymous Dipshit if you ask me

Criple Fight!!!! (-1, Flamebait)

emptybody (12341) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457184)

Give me a break!
You all do realize that Microsoft is having the last laugh do you not?

They are sitting back, proclaiming that OSS is dead and meanwhile the "big gins" are fighting amongst themselves.

While attentions are diverted from Microsoft they are rebuilding. Once the dust of the present war ends Microsoft will step in, fully rested, and pick up where it left off however they will be fighting a tired and battle weary enemy.

Divide and comquor.

Re:Criple Fight!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7457231)

Obviously OSS is already losing the spell checker battle...

Re:Criple Fight!!!! (1)

Merk (25521) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457341)

Yeah, only the Linux one is only one of many ongoing wars MS is fighting. There are also the patent fights, the antitrust fights, the virus fights, and others I'm sure.

Besides, it's not like the legal battles are having much of an effect on the actual Linux kernel development process, are they?

Re:Criple Fight!!!! (1)

IA-Outdoors (715597) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457346)

Divide and conquer indeed. What could be sweeter for Microsoft than to have one of it's biggest mainly non-OSS competitor (IBM) and Linux and OSS as a whole take a big hit at the same time? When people say '...killing two birds with one stone' who woulda thunk that maybe one of them could be a penguin.

Worst part about this is Linux and OSS will progressively see their stock in the corporate world fall as a result of this crap. To top it off you got SUSE going to Novell and RH with all their coporate shifting leaving a bad taste in CIO's mouths. Some could argue linux and OSS have fallen on hard times or, if you are optimistic, are in a state of transition.

Re:Criple Fight!!!! (1)

mfago (514801) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457361)

Divide and conquor

Just be glad they aren't resorting to their most famous tactic:

Embrace, extend, extinguish

SCO Subponeas Greased Up Yoda Doll from ESR's Anus (-1, Offtopic)

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WHAT!!! (1, Interesting)

chochos (700687) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457202)

OK that's it. They've crossed the line. Now all these subpoenaed people/companies need to get together and plan a really careful counterattack, not just a defense.

I hope IBM and the other companies will help Linus and Stallman get some big-time lawyers and pay for them too, because I think from here on, things will get real ugly real fast...

Re:WHAT!!! (2, Interesting)

adrianbaugh (696007) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457332)

Yes, because I imagine that so far they've just been sitting on their hands. The need to plan a good counterattack started ages ago - there have even been articles on here where Linus said as much, and I imagine RMS is itching to have his say (whether anyone else is listening or not ;-)). The mere fact that they've been subpoenaed is nothing unexpected (it just means they're compelled to give evidence after all) and nothing that, in itself, requires any more of a "legal counterattack" than was required anyway.

Re:WHAT!!! (1)

Bonker (243350) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457370)

Uhm... everything the prosecution could possibly ask for is already public.

Seriously, the defendant's 'exhibit A' is available for download from any given mirror site or bit torrent client world wide.

"And where did you get this code, Mister Torvalds?!"

"From this person here, as I stated in the Kernel comments. It's dated, too. If there's a problem with that particular procedure, I can always replaced it with *this* procedure."

Linus pulls a CD from his pocket.

A subpeona does nothing but add negative public opinion. SCO's 'counter' assault doesn't do anything but make a weak attempt to deceive people into beleiving that the lawsuit is not a buyout tactic.

Uh huh (0, Offtopic)

DrunkBastard (652218) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457206)

I always love these articles, such depth, such information, such...nothing.

Uh, huh huh.... (5, Funny)

Omega1045 (584264) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457208)

IBM is actually trying to get some facts with their subpoenas, like offending source code. What does SCO think they are going to get out of Linus? Hopefully he doesn't let them look a the Linux source code..... oh wait.

Re:Uh, huh huh.... (4, Funny)

RobertB-DC (622190) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457336)

What does SCO think they are going to get out of Linus?

Perhaps they're running low on crack [eweek.com] ?

If Linus needs a defense fund (5, Interesting)

Perl-Pusher (555592) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457211)

He's got my donation anytime!

Re:If Linus needs a defense fund (5, Insightful)

pixelgeek (676892) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457271)

He is being subpoened not sued. Big difference

just buy SCO out! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7457215)

why doesnt ibm, redhat, sgi, and hp just all get together and chip in some $$ and just buy SCO? (hostile takeover) -- these companies are going to spend more $$ to litigate than it'd cost to buy SCO (they have a really small market cap).

Heck, I'd even chip in $100 to no see SCO at the top of Slashdot every day

Re:just buy SCO out! (5, Funny)

I don't want to spen (638810) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457314)

Is that you Darl?

Re:just buy SCO out! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7457355)

Oh now THAT deserves Funny mod points if ever I saw a post that did!

Re:just buy SCO out! (1)

chef_raekwon (411401) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457344)

ibm, redhat, sgi, and hp just all get together and chip in some $$ and just buy SCO? (hostile takeover)

it is my understanding that this is what SCO wants.
They no longer have a product to sell (cause it really sucks) and no way to make a profit.

so they sue, hoping that one of the big birds will take them in one fell swoop.

whatever. i dont think that subpeoning LInus will affect their case any.

was wondering when they would do this.. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7457218)

In fact, I was expecting them to subpoena "all linux contributors"....

imagine, if they said they needed to depose all those people, or at least most of them ... this case would drag on for YEARS and YEARS unless the judge was clueful and told SCO to stuff themselves.

The FSF's advice to centralize copyrights doesn't seem so superfluous now, does it? Linus, Apache Software Foundation, are you listening? Get *ALL* copyrights assigned to an LLC or non-profit so these things are streamlined in the future!!!!

Or do you honestly believe this is the last time a closed-source company will use the legal system to intimidate free software?

PS: why did they subpoena stallman I wonder?

dont give them ideas. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7457330)

Seriously you just gave them ideas on how to drag this out for years. It will be SCO everyday on slashdot till im 50

find it all here (-1, Troll)

willie3204 (444890) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457220)

At this site [coattails.net]

This should sum up SCO's entire campaign (5, Insightful)

freidog (706941) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457222)

SCO spokesman Blake Stowell said he did not know what the subpoenas asked for, but "I know that some of them have been served."

They haven't got a clue what they're doing, but they're doing it.

subpoena overlords (2, Funny)

griffjon (14945) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457224)

I for one welcome our subpoena overlords. No, actually, not, revolution!

Can someone who is not IANAL comment on ways this could be forced into court, and ended (or at least revealed for the sham it is as I'm sure SCO will appeal)? I want to get back to my normal flying-cars and distro-wars /., not SCO-news-of-the-day.

thats odd (3, Interesting)

epiphani (254981) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457227)

I see how the others relate, but how exactly does John Horsley, general counsel of Transmeta fit into that list? Besides being Linus' old workplace, what do they have to do with all this?

Re:thats odd (1)

Feyr (449684) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457282)

they refused to pay sco's generous extorsi^W license fee?

Re:thats odd (4, Insightful)

techstar25 (556988) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457339)

Because if Linus worked on any Linux code while working for Transmeta, then Transmeta might own the code, and therefore be held liable for the code if it copied Unix. I guess that's what SCO is assuming.

RMS (4, Insightful)

thoolihan (611712) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457232)

I imagine this is what Stallman wanted, a chance to prove the GPL in court. And involvement in the case may give him legal room to see 'evidence' without signing non-disclosures.

-t

Re:RMS (1)

missing000 (602285) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457312)

IANAL, but I believe he would have to be sued to see privileged documents.

At this point, he's just being asked to testify for discovery against IBM IIRC.

Re:RMS (1)

thoolihan (611712) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457342)

now and then, lawyers are expected to show evidence to witnesses who are testifying about said evidence...

Re:RMS (2, Insightful)

LMCBoy (185365) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457338)

Any evidence presented at trial is a matter of public record anyway, unless the judge seals it for some reason...

Am I missing something? (2, Interesting)

bearclaw (217359) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457235)

Doesn't this simply mean that SCO will be seekign testimony from these people? It isn't like SCO is sueing Linus, right?

hahah (-1, Offtopic)

TedCheshireAcad (311748) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457236)

Them's fightin' words.

Oh dear (3, Insightful)

Space cowboy (13680) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457241)

Don't take this the wrong way, Gnuites, but I wish they hadn't gone for putting RS up on the stand...

RS is an idealist, and I honour him for his ideals, but idealism has no place in a courtroom, pragmatism is the rule of law.

Simon.

Re:Oh dear (5, Insightful)

Dominic_Mazzoni (125164) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457377)

Don't take this the wrong way, Gnuites, but I wish they hadn't gone for putting RS up on the stand...

RS is an idealist, and I honour him for his ideals, but idealism has no place in a courtroom, pragmatism is the rule of law.


Are you kidding? I understand your concerns -- RMS comes across as a total wacko -- but this is the guy who invented the GPL! I think he understands better than most people exactly why free software is on solid legal ground, so I think he'd be a fine person on the witness stand. No judge will have a hard time believing that the last thing in the world he would ever want to do would be to steal somebody else's source code and release it for free. He'd sooner rewrite it from scratch, as he's done hundreds of times before.

Mirror of news (0, Redundant)

bob301 (552317) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457243)

Subpoenas are flying in the high-profile lawsuit between The SCO Group and IBM, as both companies try to buttress their legal claims by turning to third parties for information. SCO said Wednesday that it has filed subpoenas with the U.S. District Court in Utah, targeting six different individuals or organizations. Those include Novell; Linus Torvalds, creator of the Linux kernel; Richard Stallman of the Free Software Foundation; Stewart Cohen, chief executive of the Open Source Development Labs; and John Horsley, general counsel of Transmeta. SCO spokesman Blake Stowell said he did not know what the subpoenas asked for, but "I know that some of them have been served." IBM also has broadened its efforts to respond to the Linux-related lawsuit by asking a federal judge to order SCO to identify illegal source code and serving four other companies with subpoenas of its own. SCO filed the suit in March, claiming that IBM "contaminated" Linux by illegally incorporating trade secrets inherited from Unix. So far, SCO has listed the names of 591 files in the Linux 2.4 and 2.5 kernels that allegedly contain illicit code but has not been more specific. IBM's subpoenas were sent on Oct. 30 to BayStar Capital, Deutsche Bank, Renaissance Ventures and The Yankee Group, which have indicated they have reason to believe SCO's claims are legitimate. IBM has cited an Oct. 16 article in the Salt Lake Tribune that reported Deutsche Bank analyst Brian Skiba visited SCO's headquarters and saw a "near exact duplicate of source code between the Linux 2.4 kernel and (SCO's) Unix System V kernel." In October, BayStar Capital invested $50 million in SCO. In a statement to CNET News.com on Wednesday, IBM said: "It is time for SCO to produce something meaningful. They have been dragging their feet, and it is not clear there is any incentive for SCO to try this in court." IBM filed motions on Nov. 3 and Nov. 6, asking the court to "issue an order compelling SCO to respond to IBM's interrogatories with specificity and in detail." SCO's Stowell said his company provided about a million pages of documents in response to IBM's requests. "They are trying to coerce and intimidate," Stowell said, referring to Big Blue's subpoenas. "I think what they're trying to do is that if you're a potential investor in our company or an industry analyst that says anything even remotely favorable toward SCO, you're going to be subpoenaed by IBM."

Ready! Fire! Aim! (1)

4of12 (97621) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457246)


Talk about going off half-cocked...

I'll bet Richard Stalman gives them all a pedantic lecture they won't soon forget...

"I don't know what you mean by "Linux". Many people mistakenly call GNU/Linux simply Linux + [many hours]

And, maybe for good measure,

"I don't know what this means - "Intellectual Property" + [insert lengthy manifesto]

Re:Ready! Fire! Aim! (1)

pavon (30274) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457334)

Yeeah! I'm looking forward to the IP lecture, but he probably won't get around to the GNU/Linux lecture since it is indeed Linux the kernal that they are talking about, not GNU/Linux the system.

Unbelievable! (1)

capaman (320085) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457254)

This is past the point of ridiculous. It's amazing to see a company acting like a bratty toddler. Sco is losing more and more credibility by the day.

Linus (1)

GoofyBoy (44399) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457255)


All the other served people are either ready for it (Stallman) or have a largish corporation to back them up.

Linus is a coder and the single point guy for approval changes in a piece of software. I just feel bad for the guy who tries to stay out of crap like this to now get sucked into it.

Fitting (2, Interesting)

Orien (720204) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457258)

They reacted to this awfull fast. Does it seem to anyone else that SCO was planning this all along? Thay just waited for IBM to make the first move.

Re:Fitting (1)

GoofyBoy (44399) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457340)


What has SCO top management and lawyers else to do?

Their repuation is shot to hell, they are betting the company on this legal claim.

What else have to do but to plan this whole thing out for the next 2 years?

Re:Fitting (2, Insightful)

platypus (18156) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457366)

Ok, maybe they have a vicious alien-superbrain-designed hellofa plan here, but really ... would you bet against the thesis that SCO is just full of shit?
It fscking doesn't make sense what they are doing, if you ignore that make-a-buzz->make-the-stock angle.

Gotta keep the stock price...... (1)

i_want_you_to_throw_ (559379) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457261)

Going up. The 52 week high on SCOX stock is 22.29 [yahoo.com] . Reckon they have to do what they can to keep it going up.

Seriously though, IBM invented litigating companies out of business. Dragging everyone into this legal fray fits quite well with SCO's shoot the moon strategy, they REALLY are insane.

I am suprised that they didn't file against RedHat. Why? Because that would be ridiculous and that would fit quite well with what they're doing now: a ridiculous strategy.

AOL News Article (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7457263)

There is an article on this over at AOL News [aol.com]

Click Here to Read It [aol.com]

The beginning of the end for SCO...hopefully... (1)

kcbrown (7426) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457264)

SCO may claim they want "information" but I'll bet they want no such thing. And yet, I'll bet that's exactly what they're going to get: information that will, in the end, put a stake through the heart of their case.

This is the U.S. legal system we're dealing with, so any outcome (even the most absurd) is possible. But with any luck, an outcome favorable to SCO (and thus Microsoft) won't happen here.

Great (1)

jmd! (111669) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457273)

With these absurd escalations, this matter should be resolved sooner than anyone expected. Until then, I'll sit back and enjoy the humor of it all.

More PR (1)

Herkum01 (592704) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457276)

If this is not a PR ploy, I don't know what is. They have yet to establish a relationship between their code and IBM. Linus, and STALLMAN!, don't have any relationship with IBM or their coding agreements, nor do they verify that the code that they get is part of trade secrets. That was not their job. Far be it for SCO to make a rational justification.

Oh no (1)

Simon Lyngshede (623138) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457278)

Linus does not deserve this. This is totally uncalled for, SCO is just being evil.

And I kind fail to see what Stallman has got to do with all this. Perhaps they just didn't like him.

Wonderful quote from the story... (3, Funny)

BJZQ8 (644168) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457292)

Here's our good friend Blakey.... Quote... SCO spokesman Blake Stowell said he did not know what the subpoenas asked for, but "I know that some of them have been served." Unquote... I don't know what they hope to prove by service subpoenas on a handful of linux-related people...I mean, don't they technically have to serve some purpose at a TRIAL? Perhaps someday we will actually get to that point...but I think this is more meaningless pump-and-dumping on the part of the SCO people.

ESR (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7457297)

Meanwhile, sources tell that no subpoena could be delivered to Eric S. Raymond as the delivery man was chased off his ranch with a shotgun.

oh god (3, Funny)

oZZoZZ (627043) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457298)

Fuck, this is bad.. stallman in court.. jesus christ.. i can't imagine what it'll be like... i feel bad for the lawyers questioning him, it'll be worse than questioning the soup nazi on the last episode of sienfeld.

Aren't they setting themselves for a big upset? (1)

zasos (688522) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457300)

Aren't they setting themselves for a big upset by subpena Linus who has little to do with individual distributions?...

And if their claims are even remotely hold grounds, how difficult is it to rewrite the parts they claim to be infringed upon....

and while we are at it, what are they claiming?...

More FUD (1)

OldAndSlow (528779) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457303)

SCO is in over their heads, they know it, but they are going to sling FUD for as long as they can. This is only an attempt to grab some headlines, and a pretty pathetic grab at that.

All of this will be moot soon after the Dec 5 oral arguments. SCO will have to present some evidence that IBM damaged them, or they get tossed out of court. Since the first is unlikely, the second is likely. Bye bye SCO.

You just knew this would happen (1)

klmth (451037) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457306)

When the SCO lawsuit first reared it's ugly head, accompanied by protests and counterprotests, you just knew it was going to lead to this. No matter what Darl McBride said about "trying to resolve this without putting a hole through the head of the penguin", they aren't merely settling for pickling the penguin. They want to nuke the entire antarctic.

My favorite quote: (3, Insightful)

bobdotorg (598873) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457310)

SCO's Stowell said his company provided about a million pages of documents in response to IBM's requests. "They are trying to coerce and intimidate," Stowell said, referring to Big Blue's subpoenas. "I think what they're trying to do is that if you're a potential investor in our company or an industry analyst that says anything even remotely favorable toward SCO, you're going to be subpoenaed by IBM."


Hmmmm.... Sounds eerily familiar to some company trying to extort money by saying that if you use Linux, you may be violating our IP and subject to a big ass lawsuit. Unless you fork over $699 that is.

Stallman says he will show up (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7457313)

If SCO re-writes their subpoenas to say GNU/Linux.

It just shows that this is a SCO publicity play... (1)

Future Linux-Guru (34181) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457315)

...and that they aren't serious about their charges.

Really--what information is so important for them to get from the above parties? If was soooo important, they would have issued the subpoenas by now.

IBM's actions are grounded in fact; SCO's are in the ether...

Now its just comedy (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7457316)

I half expect this to be like a "bloopers" scene from a film - one of the participants starts laughing...then everyone else does...the judge is laughing so hard he is crying. even the SCO folks will be joining in.

591 Files? (1)

regomez (248369) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457319)

Did they publish the list of 591 files mentioned in the article?

Has SCO gone completely mad? (5, Funny)

Tackhead (54550) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457321)

> > Has SCO gone completely mad? What the fuck? ?
>
> Is SCO completely, utterly, loony? What the fuck? What the fucking fuck fuck?!

Oh, right. That as me, quoting myself from Septempter, and then from October.

So, to bring you all up to date. It's November. The proper question is now:

"Is SCO completely, utterly, apeshit and batshit, half-a-gig-short-of-a-Debian-ISO, stark, slavering, buggo?!? What the fuck? What the fucking fuck fuck fuck [ several dozen instances of the word "fuck" deleted for brevity ] fuck?!?!"

SCO = Sphincter (2, Funny)

spoonist (32012) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457323)

Me: A sphincter says what?

SCO: What?

Me: Exactly.

(paraphrasing from Wayne's World [moviewavs.com] )

Renewing my lack of faith in humanity (0)

Lane.exe (672783) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457327)

Just when I think this can't get any more like the biggest top at Barnum and Bailey's... something like this.

On the plus side, can Eric Raymond now legally pull guns on Darl and Co.?

why drag Linus into this crap? (1)

oohp (657224) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457350)

Why does SCO drag Linus, RMS et all into this crappy suit? Subopenas for what?

stowell (1)

cybercuzco (100904) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457352)

Paraphrasing stowell: "Weve supplied over a million pages of documentation to IBM, we dont know why they want more."

Well I can supply you with a million pages of documentiation, just give me a laser printer and plenty of toner. They havent provided a single page of documentation that supports their case.

Just in Time for Xmas (4, Funny)

nightsweat (604367) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457358)

Cool, I'll get what I really wanted for Xmas - a smoking charred black lump of coal that used to be SCO!

I'm leaving out extra milk and cookies this year.

Absurd (1)

AvengerXP (660081) | more than 10 years ago | (#7457368)

Now now i dont use or like Linux but this is completely wack. Leave the poor free software developers alone. I hope there's a lot of evidence because if they don't there will be nothing left of SCO after the rabid dogs get to them.

I can't wait... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7457369)

...until the judge jails Stallman for contempt of court after he repeatedly refuses the court order for him to take a shower.

Firing back? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7457378)

Uh, IANAL, but isn't a subpoena just a request to appear in court as a witness? How is this <oversensationalized_headline>firing back</oversensationalized_headline>?
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