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Cisco Networking Simplified

timothy posted more than 10 years ago | from the but-not-for-dummies dept.

Education 85

Michael Bennett Cohn writes "Everything about Cisco Networking Simplified screams accessibility: the landscape layout, the softback cover, the illustrations drawn without a ruler that literally take the sharp edges off of computers, servers, and switches (router icons, fortunately, are already round). A note on the cover indicates for the curious that the book is in full color. Each short chapter is broken into 'at-a-glance' subsections on each topic, headed 'Why Should I Care?' and 'What Are the Problems to Solve?'" Read on for the rest of Cohn's review of what he calls an imperfect but good beginner's guide to networking generally, not just Cisco products.

This book is clearly written for two types of people: executives from a non-technical background who get flustered when speaking to network engineers, and networking novices looking for a friendly introduction to the subject before they begin serious study for, say, the CCNA.

When I first opened Cisco Networking Simplified, I was a bit put off by the intensity with which I felt the authors and illustrator were trying to convince me just how down-to-earth they are. The organization of the book is such that it's so easy to flip through, the pithy explanations so easy to digest, that one might grow quickly suspicious that here is a book designed more to make the reader feel at ease than to actually teach her anything.

But one would be wrong. CNS is a good basic reference book. It's short because it sticks to the essentials. It's weirdly-inked illustrations do make the concepts clearer. And the friendly tone never gets smarmy. On the contrary, Maggiora and Doherty anticipate a newcomer's reaction to the material well enough to know when to be terse, and when to insert whimsical asides. The unofficial eighth (political) and ninth (technical religion) layers of the OSI model and the use of ISDN to mean It Still Does Nothing are fun tidbits, well-placed, and perhaps even useful as mnemonic devices. The paragraph explaining that "routers switch and switches route," is appropriately illustrated with two people scratching their heads. That the authors make room for "Algorhyme," Radia Perlman's poem describing the Spanning Tree Algorithm (which she also wrote), shows that they know the difference between cute and distracting, and cute and relevant.

There are some problems, though. For example, the discussion of classful addresses is outdated. The class A, B, and C system is presented as the solution to a problem caused by unanticipated Internet growth. That may have once been true, but now the time when the class system was itself perceived as the next wave of that problem has already come and gone (gone, because outside isolated or masqueraded networks, class addressing has been replaced with CIDR). An executive who reads this book and then asks his engineers whether the company has been assigned a class A, B, or C address isn't going to get a lot of respect. A more serious problem is the confusing definition of the term DCE. On page 209, it's "data circuit-terminating device." On page 210, it's "data communications equipment." The first definition is more popular according to a google search, but makes less sense (where does the "E" come from?). Perhaps both definitions are somehow valid, but in a book like this, it shouldn't be the reader's job to figure out which one. And ISDN gets two detailed pages with illustrations, while the more popular (in the U.S.) DSL gets little more than a paragraph.

Also, to call this book Cisco Networking Simplified is not really accurate. A better title might have been: Cisco Presents: Networking Simplified. Cisco has no special claim to, say, IP addressing, which is discussed in some detail. Of course, to write a basic networking book without discussing IP would be silly, and Cisco makes a lot of products that deal with IP addressing. But so do a lot of other companies.

In short, I recommend this book (three of five stars), but with caveats. Technically-minded people who already have some experience in the networking field will probably be put off by the coloring book look-and-feel (but then, it wasn't written for them). Novices who are reading this book as the first step on their way to certification may find that, ironically, it provides much more information on certain subjects (voice over IP, for example) than may be sought. It's hard to imagine anyone reading this book straight through of their own volition: it's a beginner's reference. If you're confused by a topic as it's dealt with in another networking book, you can be fairly sure that if CNS covers that topic, then it contains the simplest explanation of that topic that you're likely to find.


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First Cisco Post ?? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7511564)

I really have nothing to add to the discussion other than this first post crossed through Cisco equipment

You stole my YAFP, AC! (-1)

Captain Goatse (715400) | more than 10 years ago | (#7511600)

Oh, and Cisco sucks, right?

Is it even possible to disagree? I think not.

(BTW, YAFP in the Subject is an acronym that means: Yet Another First Post, a reference to YAAP(I only got one YAAP. And a YAFAP of course.) of r.g.r.n in this case. Yet Another is also used in many other places.)

(BTW #2, I can't really preview posts anymore, the body of the page doesn't show up. Did the nigger that serves the pages take a nap? Lynch him!)

Cisco Press, 1999 is calling (-1, Flamebait)

typical geek (261980) | more than 10 years ago | (#7511584)

They want their simplistic puff books about the internet back.

Really, how many freaking introduction to networking books do you need, this is like chapter one of any networking book today? I remember going through most of this in the beginning of my Netware 3.1 tutorials.

Re:Cisco Press, 1999 is calling (0, Funny)

grub (11606) | more than 10 years ago | (#7511654)


Any 3.1 stuff I did was all IPX. IP was just bolted on IIRC.

I met a man who told me his recipe for excitement (-1, Offtopic)

Gizzmonic (412910) | more than 10 years ago | (#7511585)

He said "I spray paint without proper ventilation"

NO AIR AT ALL.

I said wow man, blow my skirt up, and hitch me to your wagon!

Might be worth a read (1)

Leroy_Brown242 (683141) | more than 10 years ago | (#7511593)

back a few years ago when I was a complete noob, I read "Networking for Dummies". Pretty good read, and taught me all I needed to get me started. Maybe this is one I can recomend to my noob friends.

Re:Might be worth a read (4, Insightful)

Suppafly (179830) | more than 10 years ago | (#7511666)

people always knock the for dummies books, but I've found a lot of them to be good informative introductions to subjects. Sure a for dummies book isn't going to totally cover a topic, but it will give you enough of an introduction to be able to understand a more thorough book better or to persue some internet based learning on your own.

Re:Might be worth a read (2, Insightful)

Leroy_Brown242 (683141) | more than 10 years ago | (#7511715)

Agreed. Fo rmyself, all I usually need is a push in the right direction. Once I get some understanding, google and man pages can usually get me where I want to go.

Re:Might be worth a read (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7512153)

Don't count on it, especially if you intend to get Cisco certified.
It's rare when someone passes the certification without going through the Cisco Academy.
Proprietory methods, which can only be learned at the academy and logic, reverse and perverse logic etc. are incorporated into the exams.

Re:Might be worth a read (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7513692)

I got my CCNA as did two of my college classmates. None of us even heard of the Cisco academy. For what its worth, I am a student, I almost never touch routers in the real world and I still passed the CCNA pretty easily.

Sad, really (1)

vasqzr (619165) | more than 10 years ago | (#7515176)


I almost never touch routers in the real world and I still passed the CCNA pretty easily.


Are you the kid who screwed the network up at ______ machine and tool last weekend?

If so, thanks. I made $600 in 2 hours straightening that all out!

Re:Might be worth a read (2, Funny)

AgentPhunk (571249) | more than 10 years ago | (#7512288)

A few years ago a co-worker (we were both programmers) bumped into me on the train, as I was reading my "Jazz for Dummies" book.

He immediately freaked out, thinking that he was missing out on some new dot-com buzzword language/app/whatever. Kind of funny.

Re:Might be worth a read (1)

lonb (716586) | more than 10 years ago | (#7512294)

Back when I started playing with corporate networks and enterprise systems, about 9 years ago, I read "Inside WindowsNT" -- even though, at the time, there were no NT boxes at the location. It just happened to be the best book for tying it all together. What a great starter.

porfa denle una revision en b&n que solo tiene (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7512586)

y esa "review" esta duplicada.
Viva Amazon , abajo b&n , es basura

Michael Jackson arrest warrant issued! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7511605)


Q :
What time is bedtime in the Michael Jackson household?

A : When the big hand touches the little hand.

It's O.K, fans! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7511635)

Michael Jackson has lots of money and expensive lawyers. Therefor there is no need to prosecute hime this time, either. He is rich, and therfor above the law. Carry on, Mr. J!

timothy is a big fan (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7511792)

I heard he pleasures himself every night with that one glove of MJ.

More titles (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7511609)


If you liked our "Cisco Networking Simplified" book, be sure to look for these other titles:

"Learn Brain Surgery in 21 Days"
"Quantum Mechanics in a Nutshell"
"String Theory for Dummies"

Links Please (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7511725)

What? No Amazon sales links to those? ;-)

keep patting yourself on the back (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7511838)

except it doesn't require a Ph.D. or M.D. to credibly practice cisco router and switch configuring. Get over yourselves, any monkey with a book can do it.

You're telling it like it is, pal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7511922)

Correct. I did it when I was about 20 to pay for college.

Re:keep patting yourself on the back (2, Informative)

symbolic (11752) | more than 10 years ago | (#7511963)


For those that characterize network management as the ability to type a few commands into a router, please find a more suitable calling. The industry is currently polluted with people that know just enough to be dangerous, and certifications like the CCNA have been tremendously devalued as a result.

When was it valued? (1)

mindstrm (20013) | more than 10 years ago | (#7512007)

Seems to me CCNA always meant "I know my way around a cisco router, kind of", and did not at all mean "I am an internetworking expert"... that's what CCIE is for.

Re:When was it valued? (1)

symbolic (11752) | more than 10 years ago | (#7512297)


It actually was at first. But the availability of braindumps, and a lack of QA on Cisco's part made it easy to get one.

The CCNA actually entails a good deal of background knowledge. While I admit that it's only the ground floor, I'm curious to know how much of what people learn from their CCNA studies, is actually retained - or, if the only objective is to remember what might be on the test, and then forget most of it a week later.

Re:When was it valued? (1)

pyite (140350) | more than 10 years ago | (#7514779)

Most of it's not even used (at least the 640-607 exam, which was just retired). The new exam is a little better, but still, it has a lot of stuff that has its niche in supporting older technologies. Granted, a lot of older technology exists, but its very rapidly being phased out. I'd say about 1/3 of the stuff on the exam I have completely forgotten. However, I know a lot of stuff that's NOT on the exam (i.e. Multi-Layered Switching).

Re:keep patting yourself on the back (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7514173)

Ok, point taken. Yes, I was being sarcastic, but my point was- network management does not require the same conceptual brainpower and academic training as brain surgery, quantum mechanics, etc. It is a *trade* profession, much like a car mechanic, or an electrician. Most employers have realized this by now. The "sexiness" of the profession is gone, because it was never deserved in the first place.

Does a good network manager/sysadmin have strong technical skills, excellent problem-solving abilities, and is highly adaptable? Yes. But again, it is still a trade, not a profession that requires exceptional academic ability.

I know plenty of skilled IT professionals with no degree, possibly not even a HS degree, but potential string theorists, they certainly are not.

I'm an IT manager too. And I'm proud of it. But I won't pretend to be something I'm not.

Re:More titles (1)

lonb (716586) | more than 10 years ago | (#7512309)

Ok, let's get down to it... really the most important thing for any engineer to be reading (especially if they work in corporate America) is Dilbert [dilbert.com] . Get on it!

Quantum mechanics for beginners... (1)

f64 (590009) | more than 10 years ago | (#7512846)

actually, i bought a book called Quantum mechanics for beginners. lots and lots of illustrations, but i just couldn't get past one third of it.

i asked a friend of mine who is actually doing his doctors thesis on QM, and he didn't think so highly of it; not cause it was a 'for beginners' book, but cause it overly complicated issues, and brought up subjects which were only confusing.

i took some comfort in that.


f64 : making rich excuses for being poor

Re:More titles (1)

sharkey (16670) | more than 10 years ago | (#7516715)

"String Theory for Dummies"

Chapter 10: Flax or Cotton-Poly Blend?

Grog is not ficticious!!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7511612)

Be circumspect in your liaisons with women. It is better to be seen at the opera with a man than at mass with a woman. -- Cisco router manual (gay version)

Does it deal with CISCO gear? (2, Interesting)

carlos_benj (140796) | more than 10 years ago | (#7511615)

The review talks a lot about the basic networking explained in the book, but does it go into specifics with regards to CISCO gear? I'd think that would be as important for someone considering a CCNA cert.

Re:Does it deal with CISCO gear? (1)

TheGeneration (228855) | more than 10 years ago | (#7514831)

Just so you all know the CCNA certification manual (the big thick book) has practice tests that are suspiciously weak. It leaves one who just failed the CCNA exam having passed the practice test the night before feeling a bit burned. It's almost as if Cisco makes more money if you take the test twice.

Nice cross-post... (5, Interesting)

belgar (254293) | more than 10 years ago | (#7511624)

...to both Slashdot and Amazon. [amazon.com] Threw me for a second when I started reading Amazon reviews. Isn't that illegal on Slashdot?

Re:Nice cross-post... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7511717)

No, because the admins (you know, the people who get paid to look for this sort of thing) are too lazy to care.

Re:Nice cross-post... (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7511786)

I believe they're homosexuals, as well.

Re:Nice cross-post... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7511974)

Hehehe. I'll mod you funny in metamod if possible!

And you other guys should do the same!

Glad you don't work for me (3, Funny)

mccrew (62494) | more than 10 years ago | (#7511755)

You see a cross post between Slashdot and Amazon.
I see reuse and avoiding the common all-too-common hubris of wanting to reinvent the wheel.

I'd hire him over you.

Re:Glad you don't work for me (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7511801)

I see duplication and the breaking of encapsulation. Not good qualities.

Cisco networking simplified, the Cisco way!! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7511644)

Buy Linksys.

Sample chapter from book (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7511653)

Chapter 9 - security [ciscopress.com]

Re:Sample chapter from book (1)

joeslugg (8092) | more than 10 years ago | (#7511793)

I see what the reviewer means about the the pictures.
It looks like it was illustrated by The Cheat [homestarrunner.com] .

Re:Sample chapter from book (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7512191)

What's with all the Apple refs?

Re:Sample chapter from book (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7517882)

I like the description in the book:
"The new authentication code is created using a really horrible math function called a HASH"

Those really horrible math functions r0X

Michael Jackson arrest warrant issued! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7511656)


Q :
What time is bedtime in the Michael Sims household?

A : When the big hand touches the little hand.

Re:Michael Jackson arrest warrant issued! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7511698)

what's the difference between Michael Sims an dMichale Jackson?


One is an effeminate, pasty-white pedophile; the other is an effeminate, pasty-white pedophile.

Re:Michael Jackson arrest warrant issued! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7511731)

What's the difference between Pepsi and Michael Jackson/Sims?


Pepsi doesn't shoot a load of jizz all over 12 year-old boys!

Re:Michael Jackson arrest warrant issued! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7511772)

Why doesn't michael Sims molest Michael Jackson's children?


Professional courtesy!

ROTFL (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7511870)

Now that one... well done, sir.

Question: (-1)

donald knuth troll (682408) | more than 10 years ago | (#7511660)

Was this book typeset with TeX?

eh? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7511678)

who gives a damn about this article or cisco router shit. post something that's not boring. NEXT!

Well no wonder it's confusing... (0, Funny)

djkitsch (576853) | more than 10 years ago | (#7511679)

if they spend a few chapters talking about "IDSN"...

TP! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7511684)

TWENTIETH POST! PWENTIETH TOST! and now to avoid the lameness filter....

Why not get Cisco training for free (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7511695)

Why not just get everything for free at http://www.gdd.net ?

Re:Why not get Cisco training for free (1)

homerskid (725428) | more than 10 years ago | (#7511903)

Wow...very nice site..thanks for the url!

link (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7512173)

Re:Why not get Cisco training for free (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7512481)

Gee, that for the link. A web site with links to "Home", "Feedback", and "Login".

Neat.

Re:Why not get Cisco training for free (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7512889)

Most of the features of this website require a login, including the menus.


Creating a new account is not only easy, it's free!
So get an account

Re:Why not get Cisco training for free (1)

homerskid (725428) | more than 10 years ago | (#7513428)

try logging in doofus

Ugh... Michael "Sims" Jackson (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7511719)

What have you done now you censoring pedophile? Sick, sick, sick! And you timothy... ugh, I don't even want to think about it.

Michael Sims was fired (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7511856)

It happened nearly a month ago, I think. We can finally all breathe easy. We will never have to deal with his ludicrous "editorial sense" anymore.

I hope he enjoys his gig at Wendy's, saving furiously to keep his hijacked censorware domain.

NOT SO, UNFORTUNATELY (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7512320)

Unfortunately, some shit was posted by him yesterday.

Christmas present for my GradeSchoolers (1)

azpcox (88971) | more than 10 years ago | (#7511746)

Looks like I'll get the book for my children so I can have meaningful discussions with them regarding IP addressing and routing at home. At least the layout will appeal to them...

DCE (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7511825)

DCE means Digital Communication Equipement. The DCE need to communicate with a DTE which stands for Digital Terminal Equipement (which is basically only a synchronising process between 2 routers or CSU/DSU or also frame relay. Nothing too fancy there.

Re:DCE (2, Insightful)

BengalsUF (145009) | more than 10 years ago | (#7511889)

Change Digital to Data and you'll have it right.

Cisco had been doing this for years (3, Informative)

bs_02_06_02 (670476) | more than 10 years ago | (#7511830)

Here's a good all-around book that I've had for at least 8 years.
"Understanding Data Communications (7th Edition) by Gilbert Held.
It's good at explaining a lot of things, right down to decoding packet headers for various things. If you don't need that kind of detail, it's still a great book for the uninitiated. fitting it into the real world. I've got a dog-eared second edition that I've loaned to a number of people through the years.
Cisco has been good at training materials for quite some time. I sat through every Cisco class offered they had in 1995. The training materials were very good.

Female? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7511955)

"to make the reader feel at ease than to actually teach her anything."

Why do you assume it will be a female?

Use the singular "they".

"to make the reader feel at ease than to actually teach [them] anything."

Re:Female? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7512090)

I was thinking about this the other day. Then it occured to me that in Jazz music there are no female trumpet players. Women can not play the trumpet.

Years of Male Oppression, of course! (1)

FatSean (18753) | more than 10 years ago | (#7512354)

All those hundreds of years of books using 'he' as an article! For SHAME!

Re:Female? (1)

bluethundr (562578) | more than 10 years ago | (#7514422)

Why do you assume it will be a female?

It's just a modern convention of writing. For hundreds of years if you were referring to a generic human you referred to this person as a "he". This started changing somewhere in the 90s when writers of just about every genre, and whether the author was male or female, began defaulting to "she" instead of "he" to mean "generic person".

Sort of like the Barbie doll of the 80s who exclaimed "I don't like math!" when you pulled her string, the predominating view in modern social science is that the reason you end up with very male dominated fields (like Cisco networking or IT in general) is that women are socialized to believe that these things "aren't for girls". When you start writing books that use "she" as the generic, and you start putting out more books for kids featuring women as astronauts or scientists or mathematicians we will have the enourmous benefit of a society that does not value women primarily as mere Vicoria's Secret fashion victims.

Not that women shouldn't be valued for their beauty. But if all someone is contributing to society is how they look in high-heels it's a lose-lose situation for both the society and the woman brainwashed into believing that all that really matters is her appearance.

Re:Female? (1)

rifter (147452) | more than 10 years ago | (#7516668)

When you start writing books that use "she" as the generic, and you start putting out more books for kids featuring women as astronauts or scientists or mathematicians we will have the enourmous benefit of a society that does not value women primarily as mere Vicoria's Secret fashion victims.

That's right. What we really want is victoria's secret models that can configure our cisco routers and cook hot grits! Then you'd be cooking!

Re:Female? (1)

TheLink (130905) | more than 10 years ago | (#7520644)

BTW that doesn't necessarily apply for other human languages. There are languages that allow you to refer to a generic human using the same word whether male or female or whatever.

Mandarin - "Tha"
Malay - Dia

Japanese - ka re till about 100 years ago when it got corrupted by English or some other language ;).

Re:Female? (1)

Eiki (713952) | more than 10 years ago | (#7517480)

It is rather annoying, isn't it? Seeing 'she' in the context of O'Reilly guides and engineering texts always trips me up a bit; I begin to cringingly imagine the writer congratulating herself (and now I've done it too!) for the great blow she's struck for gender equity, or whatever.


But picking 'he' or 'she', and alternating in the name of political correctness, is infinitely better than the disgusting 'he or she'. Unfortunately, I'm not a big fan of your singular 'they' either, as it tends to cause confusion and frequently violates parallelism - your example sentence just sounds wrong to me.

And let's not even get into those fake-o-la neutral pronouns. Ou? Thon? HERM? That's just silly.

Re:Female? (1)

TheLink (130905) | more than 10 years ago | (#7520729)

What's 'e talking about 'ere? :)

Goes well with Hokkien too - where "ee" means about the same thing.

I've found this to be much more informative (5, Funny)

bubblegoose (473320) | more than 10 years ago | (#7512068)

Routergod [routergod.com] is a great source for networking information.

Experts such as Charles Manson [routergod.com] explaining static routes. Don King [routergod.com] explaining IP access lists and Denise Richards [routergod.com] on the PIX Firewall. Those celebs really know their stuff.

Re:I've found this to be much more informative (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7515072)

Denise Richards on the PIX Firewall.

I ran into Denise once and asked about her knowledge of firewalls and such. She told me she knows nothing of the PIX, but has very indepth knowledge of the DIX firewall.

classfull addressing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7512162)

the crap on classfull addressing (class a, b, c networks) is probably in the book because it is on the ccne and ccna tests. At least it still was when I took the ccne test a few years ago

Missed an opportunity (1)

j0217995 (597878) | more than 10 years ago | (#7512174)

I receive a lot of "junk mail" from Cisco and received an offer for this book free of charge. I threw it away, looks like I should have used it and take advantage of the book.

Wouldn't have mattered (1)

EvilStein (414640) | more than 10 years ago | (#7513471)

They seem to only have 9 copies to give away. I jumped on the same offer and 3 months later, got a postcard saying "Sorry, we ran out!"

heh

Re:Wouldn't have mattered (1)

rifter (147452) | more than 10 years ago | (#7516767)

They seem to only have 9 copies to give away. I jumped on the same offer and 3 months later, got a postcard saying "Sorry, we ran out!"

So you're saying the offer was slashdotted?

free book (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7516684)

i got your free book. ccie practical shaight.

Still Waiting. (1)

H8X55 (650339) | more than 10 years ago | (#7512386)

One step closer to the Dummification of the I.T. Field. Still waiting for the Cisco Virtual Private Networking for Dummies, myself. The sad thing is then and only then maybe my company will get their stuff working properly.

$2 more at amazon + more reviews (1)

zontroll (714448) | more than 10 years ago | (#7512530)

This book costs $2 more at Amazon. Spend $4.01 more to get free shipping.


For more reviews of this book and other information, check out my new site: VeryGeekyBooks.com [verygeekybooks.com] .

VERYGEEKY ES UNA MIERDA (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7512881)

LO PEOR QUE HAY

Algorhyme (karma whoring) (2, Informative)

alansz (142137) | more than 10 years ago | (#7512587)

Those interested in Algorhyme can find it in the abstract to Perlman's paper on spanning trees [acm.org]

If you need... (2, Insightful)

Medieval (41719) | more than 10 years ago | (#7513019)

... a book called Cisco Networking Simplified, you probably shouldn't be doing networking that you need to use Cisco products for.
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