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Linux in 2004?

michael posted more than 10 years ago | from the vote-tux dept.

Linux 456

An anonymous reader writes "John Terpstra and Eric S. Raymond have started the ball rolling on LinuxWorld's poll of the community for what they think will happen in the world of Linux in 2004. Terpstra says 'I predict that during 2004 at least one significant USA government body will adopt Linux on the desktop.'" Depending on how you define "significant", this has already occurred.

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456 comments

Yay! (1, Insightful)

jon3k (691256) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540775)

I think this will be a(nother) great year for linux. Long live Open Source Software :)

Re:Yay! (-1)

Fecal Troll Matter (445929) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540784)

Millions of communists can't be wrong...

tsarkon reports greased up yoda doll in anus9 step (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7540776)

Defecate. preferably after eating senna, ex lax, prunes, cabbage and hot sauces.

Wipe ass with witch hazel, soothes horrific burns.

Prime anus with anal ease.

Slather richly a considerable amount of vaseline or other anal lubricants into your rectum at least until the bend and also take your yoda doll or yoda soap on a rope and liberally apply it.

Pucker your ballon knot several times actuating the sphincter muscle in order to work it in.

Put a nigger do-rag on yoda's head so the ears don't stick out like daggers!

Make sure to have a mechanism by which to fish yoda out of your rectum, the soap on the rope is especially useful because that is built in.

Slowly rest yourself onto your yoda figurine.

Gyrate gleefully in your computer chair while your fat sexless geek nerd loser fat shit self enjoys the prostate massage you'll be getting. Think about snoodling with the Sarlaac pit. Read Slashdot. Masturbate to anime. Email one of the editors hoping they will honor you with a reply. Join several more dating services - this time, you dont check the (desired - speaks english) and (desired - literate). You figure you might get a chance then. Order some fucking crap from Think Geek. Get Linux to boot on a Black And Decker Appliance. Wish you could afford a new computer. Argue that IDE is better than SCSI because you cant afford SCSI. Make claims about how Linux rules. Compile a kernel on your 486SX. Claim to hate windows but use it for Everquest. Admire Ghyslain's courage in making that wonderful star wars movie. Officially convert to the Jedi religion. Talk about how cool Mega Tokyo is. Try and make sure you do your regular 50 story submissions to Slashdot, all of which get rejected because people who arent fatter than CowboyNeal can't submit. Fondle shrimpy penis while making a yoda voice and saying, feel the force, padawan, feeel the foooorce, hurgm. Yes. Yes. When 900 years you reach, a dick half as big you will not have.

All in a days work with a yoda figurine rammed up your ass.

I HAVE A GREASED UP YODA DOLL SHOVED UP MY ASS!

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Because of Yoda's attitude, I usually don't respond to his perversions, but this time I'll make an exception. For starters, the nicest thing that can be said about Yoda's lackeys is that they are goofy insurrectionists out to demonstrate an outright hostility to law enforcement. Already, some piteous Neanderthals have begun to fund a vast web of uncontrollable vagabonds, combative slackers, and naive malodorous-types, and with terrifying and tragic results. What tracts will follow from their camp is anyone's guess. Think about that for a moment. Simply put, every morning Yoda asks himself, "How can I fool the masses today?" The law is not just a moral stance. It is the consensus of society on our minimum standards of behavior.

It is grossly misleading merely to claim that Yoda simply regurgitates the empty arguments that have been fed to him over the years. Strange, isn't it, how disrespectful control freaks are always the first to trick academics into abandoning the principles of scientific inquiry? At least 80 percent of the people in this country recognize that he should be locked up. And if that seems like a modest claim, I disagree. It's the most radical claim of all.

Does Yoda have trouble living with himself, knowing that Yoda's wheelings and dealings disgust and infuriate me? In my effort to uncover his hidden prejudices, I will need to provide you with vital information which he has gone to great lengths to prevent you from discovering. I'm not going to say why; we all know the reason. Stingy feckless lowbrows can go right ahead and convict me for saying that I, for one, am morally and ethically opposed to his sentiments, but History, acting as the goddess of a higher truth and a higher justice, will one day smilingly tear up this verdict, acquitting me of all guilt and blame. His solutions are so narrow-minded that if allowed to go unanswered, their final cost would be incalculable. Why doesn't Yoda try doing something constructive for once in his life? Some people have compared impertinent hedonists to illiterate vile morons. I would like to take the comparison one step further. Let me close where I began: This is a frightening realization.

I pledge Allegiance to the Doll
of the Greased Up States of Yodarica
and to the Republic for which it shoves,
one nation under Yoda, rectal intrusion,
with anal lube and ass grease for all.

WARNING: GOATSE LINK (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7540814)

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WARNING: OFFTOPIC POST (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7540833)

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WARNING: OFFTOPIC POST IN REPLY TO OFFTOPIC POST (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7540877)

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Re:WARNING: OFFTOPIC POST IN REPLY TO OFFTOPIC POS (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7540905)

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Re:WARNING: OFFTOPIC POST IN REPLY TO OFFTOPIC POS (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7540962)

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Re:WARNING: GOATSE LINK (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7540929)

Congratulations, you get the Moron of the Day award. Nothing in your post was useful or relevant to the subject in any way. Eat shit and die!

MOD PARENT UP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7540959)

mod parent up +86 Merciful
and goatse be damned

As long as ESR sticks to asking the questions.... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7540783)

...and not answering them himself.

Windows will be obsolete when PCs cost less than $350: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/02/28/132424 8 [slashdot.org]

MS monopoly to collapse in 6 months: http://slashdot.org/articles/00/12/13/216237_F.sht ml [slashdot.org] (predicted in Dec. 2000)

Apt (5, Interesting)

rf0 (159958) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540791)

I found the following intresting

"I think 2004 is going to be a big year for Fedora and Suse, and a challenge for Debian (because Fedora now offers apt for RPM)."

Well apart from the fact that apt for rpm has been around for a while [freshrpms.net] and also debian packages usually come configured a lot better than fedora are aren't as buggy.

Of course with the recent Debian security breach things might not be that easy

Rus

Re:Apt (0)

dotslashdot (694478) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540798)

Linux has already replaced this laptop. If only ACPI actually worked, I could use the laptop correctly (hibernating to disk) instead of constantly shutting down and restarting. What a pain!

Re:Apt (5, Insightful)

mhesseltine (541806) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540809)

Agreed. The power of apt isn't necessarily the tool, it's the repository that apt connects to. After all, it's the thousands of packages that are tested against each other that creates a cohesive system.

Re:Apt (3, Insightful)

rf0 (159958) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540876)

With apt I know that if I install a program it will work or at least be given a configuration screen to edit the settings

Rus

Re:Apt (5, Funny)

LnxAddct (679316) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540840)

I run Fedora and Debian and apt for Fedora is pathetic compared to apt for Debian. Its mainly because the repositories aren't as large and I could probably fix that with some configuration changes, but go to freshrpms.net, the entire list can be viewed all at once. I know that on Debian I could type "apt-get install GodLikePowers" and in seconds I'd have god like powers, but if I were to type that in Fedora I'd get:
Reading Package Lists...

Done Building Dependency Tree...
Done E: Couldn't find package GodLikePowers

Once the sources for apt for rpm become more robust, then Debian may have something to worry about, after all, the installation of Fedora actually made me smile it was so easy.
-Steve
P.S. I know that GodLikePowers also wouldn't work on Debian, it was simply an example.

Re:Apt (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7540976)

Wow, I can almost feel your pain. Tell me, do you sit around in the basement a lot? Wondering what has happened to your friends, your family, your life?

Linux stud...........

My Bet Is On 2006 (4, Informative)

dalutong (260603) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540792)

Partly because it will be my 10 year anniversary of using GNU/Linux... but practically, too.

I can't really put my finger on just why that year sticks out, but it does. I suspect that it will take a year+ for 2.6 to mature/be accepted to the point where most major distros are shipping it and most howtos are being written for it. I also suspect that both GNOME and KDE will reach another major version by 2006 (haven't checked their road maps... just hoping.) I also hope that device support will continue to grow as it has, configuration tools will mature more, and the "your mama" test will be more easily passed. I doubt all that will happen in the next twelve months.

As for what I think COULD happen? I think a major U.S. gov't agency could start putting GNU/Linux into major use. I think we will see a lot more adoption abroad. Maybe even a first world national government promoting it in some way. I understand GNU/Linux desktop usage will top Mac desktop usage (was a /. article on that before.. that or linuxworld.com)...

Now I'm just rambling. This made very little sense. sorry. It is 2:30 AM EST... I'm going to bed.

Howto's.. (1)

msimm (580077) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540848)

accepted to the point where most major distros are shipping it and most howtos are being written for it

I think it won't be read until howto's are a thing (primarily) of the past.

Re:Howto's.. (2, Informative)

Trepalium (109107) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540911)

Howtos will likely remain forever... I'd be fairly happy to see the howtos for rather mundane things go away or at least lose some of their utility. Today, things like the CDROM HOWTO, Ethernet HOWTO and ISP-Connectivity HOWTO are unnessesary for most people. Other things like the ADSL HOWTO, CD Writing HOWTO and DVD HOWTO are still nessesary evils.

Does Germany Count? (4, Informative)

cookie_cutter (533841) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540917)

Maybe even a first world national government promoting it in some way.

Like, say, Germany? [bbc.co.uk]

Alan Thicke. Dead. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7540964)

It hurts.

Also, props to poop bot.

Re:My Bet Is On 2006 (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7540943)

I agree, 2006 is the year [nero-online.org] .

WARNING GAY OFFTOPIC PORN POST ABOVE!!!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7540954)

Holy SHIT! WHY DON'T THE MODS IMPLEMENT A LINK BLOCKING SYSTEM! Slashdot has gone so far as to be a shit shit shit shit shit shit shittty shit! Why in the hell can't they censor this fuck!

Nah, Education is the Future (4, Interesting)

Qweezle (681365) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540945)

Lower-education will be the short-term future of linux in my opinion. It's already hit the corporate server level, the governmental level, the ranks of high education, now what?

I've suggested to our [poor] school district that we should switch to Linux, using the old hardware we have, and they liked they idea but said it would be "too hard to implement". Oh, come now. I think that any kid could easily circumnavigate a Linux interface, especially if it is an easy one, like Mandrake 9.x or Lycoris! I sure would want my kids to learn Linux, and this is a cheap(free, actually) solution for those school districts that just can't seem to raise any money. In addition, get a good IT guy at the helm, fire all the low-waged IT guys who don't know what they're doing, and get that network running smoother than ever with Linux!

It's a SHOCK to me that school districts haven't at least started putting in an "Operating Systems 101" class in high school for everyone to learn about alternative OS's. Linux, Macintosh OS, Solaris, FreeBSD, UNIX, just imagine how much that would open up the minds of those kids!

Re:My Bet Is On 2006 (5, Insightful)

Billly Gates (198444) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540955)

I personally think it will never happen. Remember the past stories about the NSA using and giving away software for linux?

Well Microsoft threw a fit and is one of the biggest lobbiests. They pressured dozens of senators with the phrase "Lost jobs" and "Communist" and they wrote legislation to ban code being release to the GPL and Linux at the NSA. Now are tax dollars are used to buy copies of Windows to help Microsoft.

Gotta love corporate influence.

Other governments its a different story because they are not all whores like ours.

US Gov't on Linux (5, Insightful)

CompMD (522020) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540794)

The NSA has their own spiffy modified linux kernel which is actually pretty nice. I haven't had any problems with it. Interesting how they won't say if they actually use it internally or not. With budgets the way they are I don't doubt that there will be some significant moves toward putting linux on the desktop of government officials in the near future. In fact, I bet there are lots of folks in the FBI computer crimes division that would be pretty happy to see that happen.

Re:US Gov't on Linux (5, Funny)

Soko (17987) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540819)

A distro from the NSA? Whoa.

That just has to be called TinfoilHat Linux.

Soko

Re:US Gov't on Linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7540901)

A distro from the NSA? Whoa.
That just has to be called TinfoilHat Linux.
:::laugh:::::

Actually, it's called SELinux (Security Enhanced Linux) and it's major enhancement, as I understand it, was mandatory ACLs (Access Control Lists) for everything in the kernel. And it's as open-source as any other version of the Linux kernel :)

Re:US Gov't on Linux (1)

t0ny (590331) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540864)

I cant see the NSA giving information on ANYTHING they do internally; thats just good security.

I was reading something about them wanting to have completely separate OS's running in multiple instances (with no shared memory addresses) and separate networks, but on one machine. Never heard anything beyone the statement of what they were developing, however. It would be pretty interesting to see.

Re:US Gov't on Linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7540970)

It's common knowledge that having a diversified network is better security by virtue that you're not all going to get taken out in the same attack. That the NSA would want a variety of operating systems on a variety of networks on a variety of hardware is not surprising at all.

I was at a talk with Eugene Spafford and he joked that there would be incredibly complex timing attacks against big iron mainframes but when the hackers finally got in they'd start typing DOS commands. Or if you were running Mac OS 9 or earlier you couldn't run commands at all because it has no command line.

If you've got 1,000 different setups in your organization that's just another 999 your attacker is going to need to know to take you out. Realistically he can probably get away with less, but it will still be a lot harder than sending the linux SQL worm or MSBlast and taking the whole damn thing out.

Also the NSA branded Linux kernel isn't really something they maintain (officially). It's more an exercise for some dudes in the NSA to test the security of Linux and patch a few things while they're in there. For your information exploits were found immediately after they published whatever they did. Not really found, but just still not fixed. Such as....

http://www.nsa.gov/selinux/list-archive/0419.htm l

Re:US Gov't on Linux (1)

t0ny (590331) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540997)

The problem they wanted to fix (in what I read, not in your post) was the real-world problem of people needed two or three computers at their desk to do their work. Obviously, it magnifies the hardware you need to buy, but its also a space issue and an efficiency issue.

I dont know if youve worked with multiple computers at the same time, but it does get kind of annoying, especially if you need to copy info from one to another. Something as simple as a cut and paste would magnify how fast you can work.

So, they were looking for something which would still segregate the networks and operating system resources, but allow a person to have one computer/keyboard/mouse. Hmmm, I wonder if they have people use KVMs?

Re:US Gov't on Linux (5, Funny)

Billly Gates (198444) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540960)

I thought Microsoft banned it

Do you know how budgets are appropriated ? (1)

zymano (581466) | more than 10 years ago | (#7541000)

Microsoft lobbies and donates to congressman so they may take exception to your ideas. Do you believe congressman care about budgets or campaign donations ?

What will drive Linux adoption (4, Insightful)

mhesseltine (541806) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540797)

It's not about having "good enough" software. It's about having feature-for-feature replacements that are open and secure. It isn't enough that sendmail, procmail, spamassassin, ical, etc. can be put together to implement most of the MS Exchange features; it's going to be the drop-in replacement that drives adoption.

Once people are used to using the drop-in replacements, they will be able to migrate away from closed and proprietary solutions. Until the drop-ins are available, Linux will not make huge inroads. (all IMHO, of course)

Re:What will drive Linux adoption (1)

GreyWolf3000 (468618) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540831)

I have to disagree with you on that.

Linux is already making huge inroads, and the more businesses and government agencies that switch, the more others out there will begin to budge.

Most businesses haven't "tipped" yet because Linux is still in the "maven" stage of adoption, meaning that only businesses actively interested in this new OSS phenomenon are even experimented with it yet. I don't think the reason most companies haven't switched yet is because they need a step-by-step process; I think the reason is because to them, OSS hasn't yet "proven" itself.

Re:What will drive Linux adoption (2, Funny)

screenrc (670781) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540999)

Intresting. But, since when did
the Microsoft operating systems proved themselves?
Very many of you, have not yet forgotten
the Blue Screen of Death. It is still all over
the place, and Windows has never proved it itself;
and yet, Windows has been widely adapted.

Re:What will drive Linux adoption (4, Insightful)

spitzak (4019) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540871)

No. There seems to be this big delusion that somehow OpenSource has to rewrite virtually every commercial application.

Maybe commercial companies will port to Linux!! Oh no, you say, isn't that illegal by RMS's communist manifesto? Sorry to break your fantasy, but it is legal, only Microsoft wants you to believe otherwise.

Take a look at the special effects industry and you will see that there is lots of commercial, closed-source, for-profit software being written for Linux.

PS: What Linux really needs is to be pre-installed on machines in a store. However it appears that Microsoft is still disallowing dual-boot machines to be sold.

Re:What will drive Linux adoption (0, Flamebait)

screenrc (670781) | more than 10 years ago | (#7541017)

I understand that linux distributors wish
for a wide Linux adaption. But what do *we*
gain out of it? The arrival of more morons
to the mailing lists? No thanks.

Re:What will drive Linux adoption (2, Insightful)

morganjharvey (638479) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540900)

Taking your comment one step further...

Multimedia might also be another roadblock. And by multimedia I am including games and the like. Joe just wants to use the computer, and most likely his computer usage consists of about %90 games and web browsing. Two good examples are RealMedia and Flash. I realise that there are solutions to both of these, but the quality is nothing compared to what is available for Mac or Windows.

Also, there are still some hardware issues to work out. Digital cameras, printers, scanners, and others are still not quite where they should be. Yes, some distributions have made some of these simple to set up, but what you and I see as "simple" scares the pants off of the non-techie -- especially when a CLI is involved -- who probably doesn't know that they should configure their XFree86 server to run at x Hz instead of y Hz. The fact that my particular digital camera requires me to download and compile gphoto from cvs to use it under linux pretty much means that no noob would have any luck with this particular camera. Here's another chance to plead with hardware manufacturers for open drivers...

One last issue, and probably the most disturbingly humorous to me, is the public's view on Linux, the BSD's, etc.: I've talked to quite a few people (*cough*myfamily*cough*) who have honestly believed that the open os's were "illegal" tools meant to be used by "hackers" to "hack into" your "network." This here is something that could be solved simply with a little more advertising and the like, but advertising in mainstream channels costs money, and I'm pretty sure that the FSF isn't ready to shell out for a public awareness campaign to let people know that this stuff isn't just for the hardcore techie (well, mostly... see above)

The good thing is is that these are all fixable and known problems, so hopefully they'll change soon.

Just my two cents worth...
-mo

Re:What will drive Linux adoption (2, Interesting)

Enucite (10192) | more than 10 years ago | (#7541027)

Two good examples are RealMedia and Flash. I realise that there are solutions to both of these, but the quality is nothing compared to what is available for Mac or Windows.

Really? My experiences don't agree with your observations.

I haven't had any problems with Flash [macromedia.com] , it's just as annoying as the Windows version when displaying ads, lets me play the little flash games, navigate all the flash sites, and see all the flashtastic content on the web.

As for RealMedia, their new Helix Player [helixcommunity.org] has been working great for me. So good that I actually install it on all my Linux desktops, unlike RealOne for Windows which I never touch.

In regard to the question, "Linux in 2004?" (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7540799)

No. Linux will die before the end of the year, much like FreeBSD.

I think... (5, Funny)

LnxAddct (679316) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540803)

I think that there will be at least three computers in my house with Linux installed on them... Oh wait...
Depending on how you define "in my house", this has already occurred.

Re:I think... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7540825)

so if I defined "in my house" as within your walls, would I be correct in saying that you like linux?

Re:I think... (1)

mbrewthx (693182) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540839)

3 PCs already with Linux on them. My LAptop Running SUSE 8.0 MY Other PC running SUSE 8.0 MY HP netserver Running Red HAT 9.0 ANd it will be 4 when my daughter gets her new PC, She'll have a windows and a LINUX machine. They all play very nice with the windows PCs. Yes I think '04 will be the year of LINUX for us..

Re:I think... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7540860)

Your 4 linux machines are nothing compared to Pixar/Dreamcasts hundreds.

And Pixar/Dreamcast are nothing compared to the hundreds of thousands of windows machines.

Marketshare is still at 5%. Don't get ahead of yourself.

My predictions (2)

RighteousFunby (649763) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540804)

DRM will have been adopted (albeit forcibly) in the kernel to cope with the Fritz chip. We'll be on about kernel 2.6.4 or thereabouts. KDE 3.2, possibly even 3.3, will have been released, and GNOME will be up to about 2.8, maybe 3. Around 15 governments will have taken on Linux in some way or form. MS's FUD is beginning to weaken.

And there are still Soviet Russia jokes on Slashdot. :)

Re:My predictions (4, Insightful)

GreyWolf3000 (468618) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540850)

I disagree about the Fritz chip. Even Windows users hate it (that know about it). If you think that the Fritz chip would pass without people knowing about it, I would have to disagree with that too.

The kernel will get up to at least 2.6.10 by December '04, and KDE will probably release 3.3 (or 4.0) later on in the year as well, along with Gnome 3.0.

Re:My predictions (1)

PReDiToR (687141) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540881)

It isn't about it passing without notice, its about security, being the buzzword of the noughties (00's) and how persuasive the NSA and the FBI are in making manufacturers adopt it.

Re:My predictions (1)

GreyWolf3000 (468618) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540920)

I'm sure if it's not by law required than there will be non-Fritzed motherboards out there.

IN SOVIET RUSSIA (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7540994)

DRM adopts YOU!

Doesn't DOD already use it? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7540813)

I thought that DOD went out and purchased 10000 licenses of Star Office from Sun... Weren't those for Linux? Or were they for winders?

The image we want to project? (4, Interesting)

toddestan (632714) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540816)

Maybe having Linux being "good enough for government work" isn't exactly the image we want Linux to have. Just like I think having Linux on cheap, disposable, sub-par computers from places like Wal-mart may not be the best thing either.

The real goal is to have people see Linux as a viable alternative, not a cheap Windows imitation or some eccentric thing the government uses.

Re:The image we want to project? (2, Insightful)

GreyWolf3000 (468618) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540845)

Being low-cost is a good way to win people over. The software quality will speak for itself. If a distribution feels quirky, slow, and unpolished, that alone will make Linux look "cheap." If it is Done Right (TM), people will actually just think that Windows is too expensive.

Re:The image we want to project? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7541047)

The software quality already speaks for itself. Nobody uses Linux.

Why? Because it supports a tiny fraction of the hardware normal people actually want to use, because other than Mozilla, Evolution and Open Office there is simply no usable software that runs on it, because the distros come with 100s of completely awful, useless piece of crap betas with no sense of a homogeneous user interface, because at least 3 different modern distros actually don't support dual monitors on 2 separate video cards in spite of what the config software says, because the config is so moronic that it will let you do things that render your computer completely impossible to use without a warning (case in point: I set up dual monitors, but the GUI config utility didn't have any option to set the layout, i.e. 2nd monitor left of 1st monitor or the opposite, and so when I rebooted the main screen was shifted over to the right outside of the display area of the rightmost monitor, which meant I had no display; spending 3 hours online with a Linux support guy didn't manage to get dual monitors to work by hand-editing the X config file, even though the OS recognized both cards and both monitors by name; the OS thought that monitor 1 was hooked up to video card 2 and vice versa; etc). In other words, because Linux is more like a 1952 Chevy truck than a 2003 BMW (or even a 1996 Toyota Corolla), in spite of what those BILL GATE$ I$ EVUL LINUX RULE$ morons will have you believe.

In 1998, I heard "give Linux a couple of years to catch up and it will solve all your problems". It's almost 2004 and Linux is still crap, a glorified beta that inept geeks will try to have you believe is the best thing since slice bread. Sheesh.

Re:The image we want to project? (2, Interesting)

Prof.Phreak (584152) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540953)

VERY good point. I've heard so many stories about "Oh, I've tried Linux and it's slow", and then questioning further, I find out that they've installed it on their old Pentium1 box - well D0H, of course it will be slow compared to Windows running on a P4!

The image needs to be: If you have a GOOD computer in your home, use it for Linux! Give the trash computer to Windows. Most people will quickly realize that Linux outperforms Windows and is snappier to use if the hardware is equivalent.

(I actually have 2 computers with relatively common hardware, one running XP, the other running Linux, and I must say that Linux feels much faster).

What Linux needs is Microsoft. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7541039)

This is the cruel truth, and you know it.

Imagine the intuitive GUI, the easy driver updating, applications that install with no problem, DirectX, no lack of PROFESSIONALLY WRITTEN programs to choose from, this is the Microsoft Way. Even Guy Kawasaki would agree. One Distro To Rule Them All.

May that distro be MS-Linux.

Linux PDAs (0, Troll)

YoungBonzi (692874) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540818)

Has anyone heard of these?

Re:Linux PDAs (1)

mhesseltine (541806) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540843)

I really hope this isn't a troll. If so, sorry for feeding. Google for Linux PDA [google.com]

There was a company that made one called the VX3 IIRC. And, of course, there's the Sharp Zaurus. I also think that you can get Linux to run on the ARM based PDAs, such as the iPAQ, HP Jordana, etc.

A year of peace..... (1)

monadicIO (602882) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540822)

I see a year of peace for everyone and linux....errmm except, may be
Darl and gang.

Linux ego (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7540826)


fanatics , fan boys and immature students with no life experience let alone buisness experience trying to instill/force/shout the merits of linux are doing it no favours and make it seem even more so the homemade OS that it

and like most homemade projects (ie beer) while it tastes nice there will always seem to have something wrong with it

My thoughts... (5, Insightful)

danielrm26 (567852) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540851)

# Which Linux application area do you believe will grow the fastest in 2004?

If not strictly meaning desktop applications, I'd say overall infrastructure. Web servers, mail servers, etc. And this will take place mostly in governments that can't afford MS licensing (it's already happening).

# Will 2004 *finally* be the year when Linux makes significant in-roads on the desktop?

No. The new X movements are just now gaining momentum, and it will take quite a while before it starts really biting into MS marketshare. I'd say 2006 maybe, like a previous poster. And that's *if* things go well.

# Which distributions will show the greatest growth in 2004?

I'd say Fedora (corporate), Knoppix (safety of cd distro), and Gentoo (great distro, great community).

# Will the SCO debacle slow Linux adoption over the next year?

No. I think it will die soon. It is just a matter of time before the whole thing is brought before a judge who is able to sort through the SCO lawyer crap, and when that happens, they'll throw the whole thing out.

# Will Tux finally get a girlfriend?

Yes. The hottie in Matrix 3. (he can have anyone)

# Or, make your own question(s) up...

Q: What is the single most annoying thing about the Linux community?
A: Irrational trash-talking about Microsoft. There are plenty of *rational* ways to criticize them, and people should stick to those arguments rather than ranting on and on about the same old tired issues. At some point the Bill Gates and Blue Screen jokes just lose their luster.

Re:My thoughts... (1)

PReDiToR (687141) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540892)

At some point the Bill Gates and Blue Screen jokes just lose their luster.

Its was in the 1980s for most of us.

Sorry, couldn't resist. This is the reason we do it. Its still funny to hate MS. Human nature needs something to complain about and if it happens to be someone universally hated, like a successful businessman, then all to the good.

You can take away my computer, but you can't take away my MS-antipathy.

Re:My thoughts... (1)

danielrm26 (567852) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540932)

"Its still funny to hate MS."

Is it though? I don't know, it just seems tired usually. I agree that if someone does it in some new and creative way, then yeah, but most anti-MS rhetoric is becoming cliche at this point.

I guess the goal of any self-respecting MS-hater should be to make fun of them in a way that no one has yet.

Re:My thoughts... (1)

rsilvergun (571051) | more than 10 years ago | (#7541004)

At some point the Bill Gates and Blue Screen jokes just lose their luster

Yeah, for you maybe. But for those just joining the comunity they're still shinny and new :).

Re:My thoughts... (1)

danielrm26 (567852) | more than 10 years ago | (#7541044)

"Yeah, for you maybe. But for those just joining the comunity they're still shinny and new :)"

Yeah, you have a point there.

top ten (5, Funny)

geekoid (135745) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540854)

10) certen people will still froth at the mouth if you don't stamp GNU in front of it

9) people still won't spell well on slashdot

8) Bill Gates will spread FUD

7) A slashdot poster will get sued by David Lettermen for top ten copyright violation

6) Microsoft will announce that Linus T. uses windows. This will be true, except they will fail to add "to look out of."

5) SCO will disappear.

4) A major exploit will be discover in Linux.

3) Apple will stop supporting anything they released in 2003.

2) DOOM III will be released for Linux.

and the number one thing that will effect the linux world: You.

Re:top ten (1)

sloanster (213766) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540916)

geekoid says:

2) DOOM III will be released for Linux.

I pre ordered it way back in the day, and at the time it was supposed to have shipped by March 2003 - apparently it's been delayed. Oh well, that will allow more time for prices to drop a bit on nvidia cards...

Thanks Michael (4, Funny)

EmCeeHawking (720424) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540857)

I was really starting to miss your witty editorial commentary.

I think I speak for everyone here when I say "welcome back!"

Do yah really think it makes a difference? (1)

CrypticSpawn (719164) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540863)

They said, "I think 2004 is going to be a big year for Fedora and Suse, and a challenge for Debian (because Fedora now offers apt for RPM)."

Lets face it, they totally miss the reason I use Debian instead of the others, frankly, I don't even use Apt on Debian. It is a nice feature to have when you actually want to use it from time to time.

Re:Do yah really think it makes a difference? (1)

CAIMLAS (41445) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540948)

er, explain for me how you're able to avoid using apt on a debian system, please. I'm not aware of such a process that allows this, short of installing every single package manually.

Re:Do yah really think it makes a difference? (1)

cgranade (702534) | more than 10 years ago | (#7541002)

Personally, I would love to use Debian, but the installer frankly sucks, and I'm too new to Linux to do it myself yet. Now that anaconda may be ported to Debian, tho, it's bye-bye Red Hat.

Re:Do yah really think it makes a difference? (1)

phoneboy (11009) | more than 10 years ago | (#7541025)

Install Knoppix (http://www.knoppix.com) instead, which is a CD-based distro that's actually pretty easy to install to your hard drive.

-- PhoneBoy

Not him again! (5, Insightful)

benna (614220) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540865)

While ESR seems to be very zealous and into the (GNU)/Linux scene, he's it's worst enemy. While Microsoft may spread FUD, people look at this guy and "wtf is this idiot doing? what's he talking about?" if i didn't know better, i'd avoid linux for the sole reason i wouldn't want to be associated with that nut.

Re:Not him again! (1)

CAIMLAS (41445) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540918)

I think you're mistaking ESR for RMS. RMS is the flaming GNU-fetish driven, EMACS-writing madman. ESR is the more practical of the two. I picture ESR as more of a clueful John Dovorak (I think that is/was his name - the guy that writes/wrote for PC Magazine) for the linux community.

Re:Not him again! (1)

originalTMAN (694813) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540922)

reading that post gave me deja vu [slashdot.org] Not that I don't partially agree. I'd say conflicting projects, lack of hardware vendor support, tier 1 (or even 2) games, the reliance on the console (I'm not complaining but the average user would), and vaporware- see For Details [sourceforge.net] - is probably far more dangerous.

Re:Not him again! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7540940)

I see you are a fellow jihadi! Welcome to the holy war!

Re:Not him again! (2, Insightful)

Feztaa (633745) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540956)

Have you ever read the Cathedral and the Bazaar? ESR is brilliant, he perfectly describes how and why the Open Source development model WORKS!

It's RMS that's going to repell people from the community; his uncompromising principles really turn off people who don't understand why Freedom in software is important.

Hell, ESR is one of the people who coined the term "Open Source", and as a result he's been bringing more people INTO the community (ie, people who were previously repelled by RMS's obnoxious ethics are now drawn in by ESR's pragmatism).

Re:Not him again! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7540979)

if i didn't know better, i'd avoid linux for the sole reason i wouldn't want to be associated with that nut.

It's too bad you don't, because it's kinda annoying when people don't recognize that others occasionally have differing opinions. If you don't like what he believes in, dandy. Has he tried to force his beliefs into your life? No more than you have to him. Some people, you included, need to learn to agree to disagree.

Re:Not him again! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7540995)

For the record I just posted this karma karma whoring. I'm an extreme leftist and I actually believe his views are not extreme enough. I'm all for the RMS hippy thing.

benna
(posting anonymously to avoid being modded down twice)

Never happen until... (5, Insightful)

ratpick (649064) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540867)

Openoffice file conversions from MS Office work better. Yeah, they work pretty well now, good enough for probably 99% of files/users, but that small portion left creates a lot of headaches. Like it or not (I certainly don't) MS Office is the standard, and office app file compatibility is an absolute requirement for widespread adoption of Linux OTD.

Linux ego (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7540868)

fanatics , fan boys and immature students with no life experience let alone buisness experience trying to instill/force/shout the merits of Linux are doing it no favours and make it seem even more so the homemade OS that it is

and like most homemade projects (ie beer) while it tastes nice, it will always seem to have something wrong with it.

professional marketing is what Linux lacks and while RedHat etc are doing their best the fanboys undo all their hard work, 2steps foward 1 step back

Re:Linux ego (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7541014)

wtf this is not a troll its insight. I'm the last one to say slashdot is a bunch of fanboys but really....

Success on the desktop (2, Insightful)

marderj (725013) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540870)

Unfortunately, I think that all this SCO garbage is going to have an impact in the data center. I don't think very many CIO's are going to be jumping to adopt Linux. Even though it's all a bunch of bullshit it's still a risky move until all this blows over. No one wants to become a target for some sue-happy company that can't compete in the current market if it can be avoided. No flames please. Just imagine a CIO pitches Linux as a huge money saver. Then by some insane turn of events SCO wins and charges $699 a cpu. That cost-saving move ends up costing 3 times as much as before. It's a risk not everyone is eager to take. I may be wrong, but I just don't see Linux having huge success in the server market as long as SCO is still spouting off. In the long run I don't think this will have much of an effect on anything. Linux has made its mark and once things clear up I think many CIO's will consider it a very attractive option. On the other hand Linux has a huge opportunity on the desktop right now. The mainstream distributions are becoming more useable with every release. All the security nonsense with Microsoft can only help Linux as well. It seems like Windows never gets good press anymore and I'm not just talking about techie publications either. Every time there's a new worm it's on the front page of CNN. After people read enough of that they start to think maybe it's time to a less susceptible platform. Just my 2 cents.

My God... (0, Flamebait)

Talez (468021) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540872)

Will 2004 *finally* be the year when Linux makes significant in-roads on the desktop?

Yes. Government adoptions happening in Massachusetts, Brazil, South Africa, and all over the Pacific Rim are driving this trend. There's a lot happening in the private sector, too, but the adopters there won't talk about that because thety want to hold on to their advantage over competitors paying the Microsioft tax.


Of course! The business world is absolutely full of Linux on the desktop but it's the worlds best kept fucking secret.

ESR is spouting off bullshit thats even more crackpotish than usual. He must be taking lessons from our old friend Darl or something.

Re:My God... (2, Funny)

monadicIO (602882) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540924)

he business world is absolutely full of Linux on the desktop but it's the worlds best kept fucking secret.
I was hoping that thw world's best kept fucking secret would be something that involved sex. Perhaps in 2004 it will.

What I want in 2004 . . . (4, Insightful)

EmCeeHawking (720424) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540884)

I think there needs to be more unification and simplification over the way things are installed in , not only Linux, but the BSDs as well.

I think everyone agrees that rpms suck. Most of the good code comes in source tarballs - configurable for any *nix... but this is where the user experience falls apart. What person is going to want to dig out the command line to compile source code, and will he or she know about all the ocnfigure options... and then, will there be dependency issues (or should the source contain the dependencies too?). Then there are the legal issues of bundling dependancies... and then there will be future commercial Linux apps which won't want to include source code.

In an ideal world, packaged installs will be a compressed single file, containing all source code, configurable on any *nix like normal source code EXCEPT that now there's a graphical interface so that setting compile options, creating desktop shortcuts, and "Make clean, make install, make uninstall" now all work under X with a point-and-click.

PLEASE! Will someone serious about standardizing Linux installs do something about this... or desktop Linux will never take off.

Re:What I want in 2004 . . . (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7540971)

You should check out Gentoo Linux's Portage system. While there isn't really a good GUI, it fits your description to a T. A simple "emerge " will download, compile, and install a given program. cflags are set in a global configuration file and applied to everything compiled by portage, and the USE variable allows configuration of various compile options, such as support for qt/gtk/gtk-2, hardware support, or support for a particular print system. It would be worth looking at.

Moving that way (5, Interesting)

ImTwoSlick (723185) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540913)

I work at a USGS mapping center, and about 75% of us programmers use Linux almost exclusively. The IT department also has quite a few linux servers running too.

The real influx of Linux is due to the hiring of university students. Push Linux in the schools, and it'll end up in businesses and the gov.

it still isnt gonna go mainstream (4, Insightful)

Adler (131568) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540923)

im sooooo gonna get modded to hell for this but, the #1 reason linux sin't going mainstream anytime soon is the community. its greatest strength is also its greatest weakness.

its been said before, and i'll say it again, until my mom and dad can run linux without calling me every day, and they can just install something or simply copy and paste from one app in X to another, linux is just gonna stay a hobbist/server OS.

sorry to say it, but its true, dont give me the "its more stable, its more secure" stuff, you're preaching to the choir here, especiallly at slashdot.

Linux isn't going anywhere for awhile, im sorry, you just have to deal with it.

Re:it still isnt gonna go mainstream (1)

Valar (167606) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540973)

Umm... how long has it been since you've used linux? Copy and paste works just fine gnome, for example. And considering the fact that I never even have to LOOK for an installer for what I want, I would say installation is easy (for the curious, emerge on gentoo using kemerge-- so don't give me any of that 'you have to install from the command line' stuff).

Re:it still isnt gonna go mainstream (1)

rokzy (687636) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540985)

agreed.

I use SuSE 8.2 for work because I "ssh -X" to a shared parallel computer and having multiple desktops is almost necessary with all the windows I have open. Windows cannot touch linux in terms of usability for me.

but the only things I have installed apart from what's on the DVD's and internet updates are Firebird and Thunderbird. I can just unzip them and run. I haven't been able to update or install any programs manually because of all kinds of libraries and development packages being needed too. thankfully with so much on the DVDs it hasn't been necessary.

similarly, updating and installing drivers (assuming they exist in the first place!) isn't trivial like it usually is with Windows.

Re:it still isnt gonna go mainstream (1)

Ogerman (136333) | more than 10 years ago | (#7541043)

its been said before, and i'll say it again, until my mom and dad can run linux without calling me every day, and they can just install something or simply copy and paste from one app in X to another, linux is just gonna stay a hobbist/server OS.

Bzzz.. wrong. It's true that Linux/OSS isn't quite ready to become the standard home desktop OS, but for mid-size/corporate business desktops, it's an entirely different story. Fact is, IT staff can very easily deal with administering Linux boxes even if your parents can't yet. If they do it right, they can save a lot of admin time/cost as well. (ex. by using network filesystems so apps only need installed/upgraded once for hundreds/thousands of machines) In the next 5 years, all smart companies are going to deploy Linux/OSS on at least some of their desktops.

And incidentally, you must not have used Linux/OSS for a long while if you think the "copy/paste issue" is still a significant one.

Linux is going a lot farther and a lot faster than you think. I'm sorry if you work for M$ or other antiquated proprietary tech company. You'll just have to deal with it.

US Gov't Agency Linux Desktops? (3, Interesting)

DynaSoar (714234) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540930)

Terpstra says 'I predict that during 2004 at least one significant USA government body will adopt Linux on the desktop.'

Not with Homeland Security showing how absolutely retarded they insist on being and going with WinXX. This is clearly not a security based decision, and any "significant" attempt to go counter to it will bring the HLS pseudo-spooks down by the thousands to protect their investments ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H The Nation.

michael sez: 'Depending on how you define "significant", this has already occurred.'

Pray tell, what agency might that be? In my years inside the beltway (up through less than 2 months ago) I didn't see any with any appreciable (let's define that as, say 5%) Linux desktops on desks. All I've seen, besides individuals setting up their own for number crunching, is piles and miles of MS systems "supported" by clue-deficient federal employess constantly in fear of replacement by contractors for extremely good reasons. Even NIH was mostly MS on the desks, and what wasn't was Macs. The necessarily more powerful research machines we used were often *nix, but these were not desktop machines.

Offering a secured version of Linux for D/L is not the same as an agency's internal deployment of same.

Two things that need to happen in 2004 (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7540931)

First, the linux installer must be as easy as windows. Looking at the beginnings of the new Debian Installer, that is a definite possibility. They have the autodetection and the automation down. With a spiffy interface and maybe Synaptic in the installer that's about as easy as it gets.

Second the linux desktop has to surpass Windows XP in usability. They have the time to get this done. Longhorn is a long way off. Personally it would be nice to see some INNOVATIVE navigation ideas thrown around in the mainstream such as unified hotkey standards, radial pie menu in the window manager, and/or mouse gestures for launching commonly used applications (gesture down to open web browser, up for email) and common commands (down+left for copy, up+left for paste, for example). Maybe even mousewheel based window navigation instead of alt+tab.

Granted these things can be done now but not without some footwork. These need to be integrated into a "desktop" linux distribution like Lindows, Lycoris, or XandrOS. Somebody just needs to put them together.

Frequent tasks should require less keystrokes or mouse movement to accomplish. It isn't enough for it to be intuitive on where you should start to look for the document that tells you which clock does what. Less applications. Faster access and faster results.

Re:Two things that need to happen in 2004 (2, Insightful)

October_30th (531777) | more than 10 years ago | (#7541034)

Personally it would be nice to see some INNOVATIVE navigation ideas

Unfortunately there's very little you can innovate with unless you're the one dominating the desktop markets.

A novel navigation idea in Windows: People get annoyed but get over it because they have to.

A novel navigation idea in Linux: People get annoyed ("it doesn't work the same way I'm used to") and give up.

In 2004 when I say... (5, Funny)

compass46 (259596) | more than 10 years ago | (#7540972)

I have FreeBSD instead, less people will think it's a nasty venereal disease.

The Desktop Is Not Important Right Now (2, Insightful)

nate nice (672391) | more than 10 years ago | (#7541010)

Why are people so concerned with Linux on the desktop? Linux advocates should be spending all resources on making sure Linux keeps and expands it's adoption with the server. The desktop war is one that is long and hard and really Linux is not in a place right now where it can seriously compete with desktop offerings such as Windows or Mac OS X. What Linux does have going for it however is its fabulous server abilities. However great these abilities are, it cannot be overlooked Microsoft will keep spending more and more money to market their server options. Linux doesn't need some "validation" by being used as a desktop. Linux needs to keep improving as a server to make sure it stays superior to other server options. In time, the desktop may come. Until then, at least at this point, it is not something that is not too important. I only hope Linux keeps its focus and plays to its strengths.

Linux in 2004 (1)

October_30th (531777) | more than 10 years ago | (#7541015)

In 2004 Linux will be awesome - awesome to the max!

Markets rocked, Linux surges, Microsoft crashes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7541022)

What happens in 2004?

The financial markets are rocked when the street and the public start coming to a more accurate realization of the size of the installed base of linux, the accelerated pace of installations, and the realization that microsoft has gone ex-growth [slashdot.org] , and should now be treated as a company with a shrinking market, instead of a growing market.

The information worker segment, which includes the Office business, posted a slight drop in profits, to $1.59 billion from $1.66 billion, despite the fact that sales [com.com] inched up to $2.29 billion from $2.27 billion a year ago.


The above paragraph is noteworthy because it is just starting to account for the massive discounting going on, such as the student/teacher edition of Microsoft Office (the most profitable division/product) being sold for $149, not checking if student/teachers are the ones buying (wink, wink), multiple copies being allowed, etc. Sales are up, and profits are down. What does that tell the econ 101 crowd out there? Check the top link for more background.

The hit on microsoft takes other proprietary software companies with it, hitting their stock prices as well. The hit microsoft stock takes is the largest hit for a Dow stock ever, and one of the largest for the S&P 500 in history.

Microsoft, forced to respond to its more realistic stock price, boosts the dividend payout to a record level, and is forced to make a large one-time payout to shareholders.

Thanks to better numbers on linux market share, to desktop wins coming in a seemingly endless stream, and to the hit microsoft stock takes, there is ever increasing focus, attention, and dollars being spent on linux development. More money is spent on linux in 2004 than in any prior year. Linux server sales, as a percentage of units shipped, surpasses both unix and windows.

A lowlife and a ceo throw in the towel, and move to Massachusetts to legitimize the relationship.
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