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Cartoon Network Serves Up More Anime

CmdrTaco posted more than 10 years ago | from the good-stuff-here-people dept.

Anime 331

E-Rock-23 writes "Anime News Network has the scoop on more Anime series Cartoon Network plans to bring to the Adult Swim block next year. Witch Hunter Robin (2) has been confirmed for a February run. On the "Probably" list are Wolf's Rain in April and Ghost in the Shell in July, though they didn't specify if it'd be the Mamoru Oshii film or the Stand Alone Complex TV series. Either way, the latter will most likely have to be rather heavily edited for TV. Looks like I have a few more reasons to stay up past my bedtime..." Or get a tivo. Witch Hunter Robin & Wolf's Rain are both really excellent shows- it's very cool to see them hit mainstream TV.

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I just want to know... (4, Insightful)

halivar (535827) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557684)

...when we're going to get past this dubbing thing and see some subs.

Re:I just want to know... (2, Interesting)

gabec (538140) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557703)

erm.... never? when was the last time you saw anything on mainstream media subtitled? Sure, I've seen a few foreign films (e.g. those up for oscars for best foreign film or something) but they have been at "that" theatre that is specifically known for showing oddities. ;) and on TV? on cartoon network??

Dunno, Maybe on the Anime Network late at night. who knows. ;)

Re:I just want to know... (0, Troll)

sklib (26440) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557948)

Joe Millionaire 2 is about as mainstream as you can get, and since the none of the girls speak english very well, all of their speech was subtitled.

The problem with the cartoon network is that a major part of its target market segment is children who can't read, so you're right, that will probably never be subtitled.

Re:I just want to know... (1, Offtopic)

Fancia (710007) | more than 10 years ago | (#7558031)

when was the last time you saw anything on mainstream media subtitled?
A bit obscure, to be sure, but a PBS station in California apparently ran for quite awhile the anime Urusei Yatsura, uncensored and subtitled.

Re:I just want to know... (0)

Beardydog (716221) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557709)

is when my cable company will bother picking up the anime network. I love Cartoon Network in general, and Adult Swim in specific is my TV God, I think there's a large void to be filled where I live.

Re:I just want to know... (1)

Handpaper (566373) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557715)

When the average Cartoon Network viewer learns to read.

Yes, I have been known to watch Cartoon Network (Chuck Jones, we miss you), but I'm not the target audience.

not for awhile (5, Insightful)

tuffy (10202) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557720)

...when we're going to get past this dubbing thing and see some subs.

The market for subbed-only anime is still very small, that's why studios work hard to ensure all the DVD releases have a dub track (preferably a good one). Trying to put subbed-only anime, even on late night, isn't going to keep enough people watching to pay the advertising dollars.

Re:I just want to know... (2, Funny)

minasoko (710100) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557744)

...when we're going to get past this dubbing thing and see some subs.

When the ambient temperature in Hades drops below zero degrees Centigrade.

Re:I just want to know... (5, Interesting)

p4ul13 (560810) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557776)

God I really freakin' can't stand this old complaint. The subtitled text is interpreted into our language just as the dubbed dialog would be, so no matter what, unless you speak the native language of the show, you're getting an interpretation of it in english.

If your complaint instead has to do with the quality of the voice acting, well I still think it's lame in that you won't fully get to know how good the original voice acting was if you can't understand what words they're actually emphasizing.

Sit back and enjoy the show. If you're that much of a purist, rent the DvDs when they come and they'll probably have an original language track with subtitles.

Re:I just want to know... (1)

pinkboi (533214) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557834)

First of all, imagine how much of an atrocity seeing Amelie dubbed would be!

Actually, the translations tend to differ, with the translation for the dub making less sense.

Re:I just want to know... (1, Informative)

Beardydog (716221) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557967)

Dup translations have to worry about mouth movements. Even the best will have to be selective at some point jsut to prevent overlap of lines. Subs can translate directly if they want to, no worries.

Re:I just want to know... (5, Insightful)

gabec (538140) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557992)

It's not really the quality of the english voice acting, it's the casting and direction of european voice actors that often doesn't fit. For example, in the series Rurouni Kenshin (Samurai X), the Japanese version had a woman doing the voice of Kenshin and it was convincing. In the english version they had a guy sounding like he'd been kicked in the balls and perpetually on happy pills do the voice acting.

If you're six years old then the latter is probably more interesting (for example who can stand the sound of Barney's voice for more than a minute except a six year old?), but to me I prefer the more natural voice (even though it was from a woman, her voice was rather ambiguous in that way and it did seem to fit Kenshin).

Re:I just want to know... (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7557777)

What's so great about subtitles? You spend half your time reading them and not watching what is going on. If you don't like the interpretation of the voices they selected, you're still at the mercy of the interpretation of the interpreter who did the subtitle.

The request smacks of snobbery and sounds like an attempt to appear sophisticated when it isn't warranted.

Re:I just want to know... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7557812)

Your comment smacks of snobbery, troll.

Re:I just want to know... (1)

Jorrit (19549) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557850)

In Belgium where I live we speak Dutch. Dubbing is NEVER ever done and I'm very glad it isn't. We always have subtitling for all foreign movies. The *only* exception is for movies that are specifically for kids who cannot read fast enough to see the subtitles.

Greetings,

Re:I just want to know... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7557891)

It might never be done in Belgium, but I still don't understand why it is supposedly superior.

Re:I just want to know... (1)

Jorrit (19549) | more than 10 years ago | (#7558039)

Well in my case my native language (and the language of my country) is Dutch. But I do understand English and I prefer to have the movie in the original language instead of dubbed in Dutch.

Greetings,

Re:I just want to know... (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 10 years ago | (#7558147)

you get the quality of the original voices.the actors you see in movies are afterall real actors(like, come oon, what if you didn't know how arnold speaks? you'd lose all the jokes!).

it's much cheaper too, so you can do it with low budget. have you seen really sucky subs? and anything that isn't the box office hitter thing is going to get sucky dubs. doing high quality dubs can be fucking expensive so you don't often see them done around here(except for high class childrens movies, usually disneys, which usually have high grade actors doing the speeches but it is expensive of course.). however, tolerable subs can be done by almost anybody who somewhat knows the both languages.

you learn to read.
you learn foreign languages.
if you know the language then you can watch it without reading and suffering from sucky translator. after seeing them for a while you just read them without thinking anyways..
and you can watch them in total quietness at home(many people do this for late night tv.. no need for headphones).

Re:I just want to know... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7558297)

In Belgium where I live we speak Dutch. Dubbing is NEVER ever done and I'm very glad it isn't. We always have subtitling for all foreign movies. The *only* exception is for movies that are specifically for kids who cannot read fast enough to see the subtitles.

Keep in mind that a) this is the US we're talking about, most people there don't speak other languages than English and b) surprising amount of people in the US are illiterate or just barely literate.

Re:I just want to know... (2, Interesting)

AnswerIs42 (622520) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557884)

I would just be happy if they actually FINISH some of the series... I am STILL waiting for the final episode of "Big O" ..they did a repeat when it should have shown, then nothing for 2 weeks.. now they are playing all the episodes again. Yu Yu has been pulled, moved, restarted so many times I have no idea when or where it's on (I think it's of now). Same with several other shows they have on there. CN does a REALLY good job of irking me when it comes to the anime they show... at least I still have TechTV's Anime Unleashed. Now, to just get Directv to carry the Anime Network..

Re:I just want to know... (2, Interesting)

tuffy (10202) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557924)

I would just be happy if they actually FINISH some of the series... I am STILL waiting for the final episode of "Big O" ..they did a repeat when it should have shown, then nothing for 2 weeks..

The Cartoon Network played the final episode the week after they mixed up and played a repeat. They pushed their special "Family Guy" episode back just so they could fix their mistake and so fans only had to wait two weeks to see the final Big O episode. Sorry you missed it - it was very trippy.

Re:I just want to know... (0)

Beardydog (716221) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557997)

I wanted to see more Yu Yu Hakusho. It was a silly show, and there's no good reason I should have liked it, but I did... Me and my crew did some searching for more episodes online, and there seemed to be a lot more, but oddly enough they were all in French.

Re:I just want to know... (1)

tuffy (10202) | more than 10 years ago | (#7558069)

I wanted to see more Yu Yu Hakusho.

More is coming. Funimation is bringing it out as fast as they can. Expect all of it to air on the Cartoon Network eventually.

When the Anime "Fan Boys" learn to read ... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7557969)

There seems to be to camps to this debate, those who appreciate cinema and the anime fan boys. Those who appreciate the art of film want the experience to be as close as director intended.

Then there are the fan boys, who just want to watch the colorful images and run out to buy the vinyl kits of their favorite mech. They love the lame dub job, and could careless about the butchering of the director's work.

It's the whole Pan-and-Scan vs Letterbox debate all over again

Re:I just want to know... (4, Interesting)

Chibi (232518) | more than 10 years ago | (#7558152)

...when we're going to get past this dubbing thing and see some subs.


I'm not sure if they'd made any progress on this, but I believe ADV has at least tossed the idea around a bit for their Anime Channel. It'd have to use a combination of closed captioning and SAP, but it's not impossible. Just have to figure out if the demand is high enough and what the related costs are. I feel that, for the most part, the US anime industry has a much better connection with their fans than a lot of more mainstream entertainment entities (RIAA, MPAA, etc).

Re:I just want to know... (1)

zeroclip (700917) | more than 10 years ago | (#7558176)

aff.. tell me about it I'm still trying to get over that HORRIBLE Noir dub. Anyway dubbing is alright aslong as it's done RIGHT like in the orginal Ghost In the Shell.

I nailed Robin... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7557711)

last year, but then she tried to set fire to my shlong!

Luckily I had an Ordo condom. :)

Re:I nailed Robin... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7557889)

Oddly enough, not as offtopic as the mods seem to think. Robin, of Witch Hunter Robin really could do this to the poor man, and the Ordo condom of whch he speaks would indeed keep poor willie alive and well.

Children, it's anime time, then bed-e-bye (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7558070)

Must be nice to be a kid at 30.

Hands across the Tivo (3, Insightful)

bluethundr (562578) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557717)

Looks like I have a few more reasons to stay up past my bedtime..." Or get a tivo.

*upper lip trembling* you mean there are poor souls out there that actually lack this essential technology? ;P

Seriously, if it weren't for Tivo I'd never catch my fix of Twilight Zone reruns and Enterprise. I do Tivo Anime Crash [animecrash.com] on TechTV, but some of the Anime they show is a little esoteric for my tastes. So, a lot of that gets deleted before I have a chance to watch it.

My friend Mike got slashdotted [slashdot.org] recently pointing out that Time Warner cable is rolling out Tivo to their users for something on the order of less than $10 a month...and at no cost to the subscriber for the box!Pretty sweet deal considering that I paid slightly over $400 for the Sony DirctTV/Tivo combo box. That particular combination is a pretty sweet deal. I guess I could regret having shelled out that much money in light of Mike's cable deal. But...naaahhh. How can you regret shelling out for such a life-affirming technology?

I just checked with my registrar [godaddy.com] and it looks like tivoaid.com is still open. I think I may buy that domain to start a worthy cause....

Re:Hands across the Tivo (0, Insightful)

Trolling4Columbine (679367) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557796)

It's pathetic posts like the parent that really exemplifies the term "electronic teat".

While normal people are out with friends being social or (heaven forbid) spending time in the great outdoors, people like you are constantly searching ways to get more of that addictive mother's milk, that sweet nectar you call television (the idiot box).

"Life-affirming technology"? That doesn't say much about your life, my friend.

Re:Hands across the Tivo (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7557838)

as much of a troll as this was... he is dead on. mod parent up!

Re:Hands across the Tivo (0)

JoeD (12073) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557913)

No, he's just trolling. Or he just doesn't get it. Or both.

Tivo breaks you free from the TV. You no longer have to be there when the show is on, or do the constant shuffling of tapes and schedules on a VCR.

It gives your time back to you and allows you to watch what you want when you feel like watching rather than when someone at the network decides you should be. You are free to get out of the house and do what you want at any time. And when you don't have anything else going on, or just feel like relaxing for a bit, your shows are there waiting for you.

Re:Hands across the Tivo (1, Insightful)

TrollBridge (550878) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557998)

"It gives your time back to you"

Tivo doesn't give you a second of your life "back"; all it does is allow you to shuffle television around your life, instead of your life around television. Who is in control of when you watch television doesn't change the fact that the television is still the one in control.

"You no longer have to be there when the show is on, or do the constant shuffling of tapes and schedules on a VCR."

You don't need a Tivo for that; try turning the fucking thing off. It's cheaper than Tivo too!

Re:Hands across the Tivo (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7557867)

Thank you!

Outstanding post!

Life is too short to be fucking around with Tivos and finding yet more ways to atrophy ones brain.

Another huge waste of time is posting on Slashdo...

On a sort of related note (1)

HarveyBirdman (627248) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557831)

Seriously, if it weren't for Tivo I'd never catch my fix of Twilight Zone reruns and Enterprise.

It was Cartoon Network's airing of Cowboy Bebop that soured me on Enterprise. After witnessing the gritty exploits of Spike, Jet, Faye, Ed and even Ein, I could no longer stomach the goody two-shoes of Enterprise. All I could remember was Captain Puss^H^H^H^H Archer curling up into a little ball as a bunch of Andorans stole his lunch money or something.

I own the DVD boxed set of Bebop (and the movie, which was a better SF film than any recent Trek, Star Wars or Matrix film). Don't think I'll be owning any Enterprise.

And, actually, I commend TechTV for showing some of the odder stuff, like Serial Experiment Lain, that CN might shy away from. The Starz Action Channel shows some anime as well, and it's completely uncut there. They just ran through Hellsing and Bubblegum Crisis 2040 both of which I liked more than I expected to.

Re:Hands across the Tivo (1)

/dev/trash (182850) | more than 10 years ago | (#7558011)

It would take a lot more than a Tivo at 10 bucks to get me to switch from DISH to cable.

Re:Hands across the Tivo (1)

StormCrow (10254) | more than 10 years ago | (#7558161)

The Time Warner box isn't a Tivo, just a DVR. By all accounts, the Tivo has a much better interface to control what you record, especially if you watch shows that are repeated multiple times per day/week. I'm more likely to buy a second Tivo than to order the TW DVR.

sig? (1)

t0ny (590331) | more than 10 years ago | (#7558296)

I generally dislike commenting on sigs, but didnt Mark Twain say that? or is that just a popular misconception?

Re:Hands across the Tivo (1)

eean (177028) | more than 10 years ago | (#7558330)

Or you can just get a computer, mplayer and a BitTorrent and watch anime fansubs only days after released in Japan. Granted, I don't own a TV, so its not like I have much choice, though I can't imagine every waiting for Anime to be released by Cartoon Network.

Ranma 1/2 (3, Funny)

TheBrownShow (454945) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557722)

It's such a shame that they refuse to play Ranma 1/2... though I don't know how the censors would react to a half-guy, half-girl character who somehow always has his, er, her chest exposed.

Re:Ranma 1/2 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7557783)

I believe the term is "nosebleed."

Re:Ranma 1/2 (0)

Beardydog (716221) | more than 10 years ago | (#7558079)

Cowboy Bebop has a hermaphrodite.. I'm sure Ranma would be edited enough that it would put its fans out, but as far as language and suggestive dialouge and situations go, [AS] doesn't seem to be too strict. They set up a large list of shows on their board they'd never air, like Ranma, Excel Saga, Evangelion and so on, but I think cost was the main issue with most of them. Of course cost of editing probably factors in...

Here we come (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7557724)


Thanks for the suggestions!

alt.binaries.multimedia.anime, here I come!

Little bit o' the inside scoop (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7557772)

Well, I happen to know the guy who does/did the Japanese-English translation for GITS:TV (yes, it will be the tv). He also did it for Big-O, Tenchi in Tokyo and a few others, he works freelance, including a VERY sweet looking 'dieselpunk' fantasy series called Last Exile.

From all impressions I get, editing won't be too bad. But the creepiest thing is that the series has 3 experimental spider-tank characters, who supposedly start out as a 'hive mind', but begin to develop individuality over the course of several episodes. So you have all these heavily armed, near-sentient battle robots, and THEY ALL HAVE SQEAKY JAPANESE TEENAGE GIRL VOICES! *SHUDDER* They even wave their hands around like children, very bizarre, and probably fits in well with the "feel" of the series.

b10hazrd

Re:Little bit o' the inside scoop (1)

blindcoder (606653) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557830)

Well, that's the whole point of having sentient mechas (called Tachikoma in this case) in Anime:
They just have to be either cute and heavily armed, or bulky and heavily armed.

Personally, I'd just love to have a Tachikoma (even only as a model) but the models are so expensive here in Bavaria >_

Re:Little bit o' the inside scoop (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7557885)

But the creepiest thing is that the series has 3 experimental spider-tank characters, who supposedly start out as a 'hive mind', but begin to develop individuality over the course of several episodes. So you have all these heavily armed, near-sentient battle robots, and THEY ALL HAVE SQEAKY JAPANESE TEENAGE GIRL VOICES! *SHUDDER*

Tachikoma! don't sweat it, they kick ass.

also watch for another killer Kanno Yoko soundtrack on this series. it is breathtaking.

Re:Little bit o' the inside scoop (1)

cpt kangarooski (3773) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557888)

The Tachikomas? I don't recall that they're experimental. They are hilariously fun though, and so are the Fuchikomas (which are similar) from the manga. And there's a lot more than three of them.

Personally, I'm still waiting on finding out why the GITS:TV Kusanagi insists on wearing that stupid one-piece all the time. Everyone else seems to just wear fairly normal clothing; why she dresses so bizarrely, I haven't a clue.

Last Exile is also quite good, though it can be rather slow-moving at times.

Re:Little bit o' the inside scoop (1)

M-2 (41459) | more than 10 years ago | (#7558072)

Personally, I'm still waiting on finding out why the GITS:TV Kusanagi insists on wearing that stupid one-piece all the time. Everyone else seems to just wear fairly normal clothing; why she dresses so bizarrely, I haven't a clue.

A friend of mine commented that if he worked for Section 9, he wouldn't get anything DONE with Maj. Kusanagi walking around in that thing all the time. That may be part of it.

Maybe she's an exhibitionist or something. I mean, she's a full-body-replacement cyborg who apparently was designed for maximum eye candy factor, and she wants to show it off. We don't get a lot of insight into her (unlike some of the others - like Batou in the 'Jungle Cruise' ep).

Re:Little bit o' the inside scoop (2, Informative)

truenoir (604083) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557898)

The Tachikomas are like that in the original, which is similar in turn to the original manga. There's even a series of shorts that were made with just the Tachikomas sitting around postulating about various things.

Re:Little bit o' the inside scoop (1)

eean (177028) | more than 10 years ago | (#7558366)

The 'cute' Tachikomas are freakin' awesome. The best GITS episodes are centered around them. Seeing them in an English dub just sounds more ridiculous.

Don't forget (4, Interesting)

yoshi_mon (172895) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557775)

I know Taco loves his Anime but I'd also just like to send a big shout out to Cartoon Network for the great stuff they have been doing with the other part of Adult Swim.

The new SpaceGoasts CTC have been great as well as all of the other ones. (Sealab2021, ATHF, Brak Show)

Even after the death of Harry Goz (1932 - 2003),voice of Captin Murphy on Sealab 2021, the show has bounced back imo and did a good new ep.

Thanks Cartoon Network. I'm not a big fan of Anime (Cowboy Beebob as one of the BIG exceptions.) but you still have given me a reason to stay up late every night.

Re:Don't forget (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7557860)

Oh, and Family Guy, that needs props as a good Adult Swim spot. Classic, classic humor. Damn the censors.

Re:Don't forget (2)

yoshi_mon (172895) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557907)

Yes. They have done a good job of replaying a lot of shows that have fallen off (Sometimes for very inexplicable reasons.) other networks.

Family Guy, Futurama, Mission Hill, and even that weird one the Oblongs. All good stuff. (And I would argue that the 1st 3 should still be in production today!)

Oh, and I do know that it is Cowboy Beebop. Heh, and I even previewed.

Re:Don't forget (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7557922)

Even after the death of Harry Goz (1932 - 2003),voice of Captin Murphy on Sealab 2021, the show has bounced back imo and did a good new ep.

I thought it was a very good attempt, but SeaLab will never be the same without Capt. Murphy. This past Sunday's episode felt awkward and empty. I hope they can find someone who can replicate Goz's charm.

ATHF, OTOH, was in rare form.

Re:Don't forget (1)

Cutriss (262920) | more than 10 years ago | (#7558076)

Well, that'd be pretty hard, since the episodes that are running right now were all done before Harry Goz's death. Williams Street had just wrapped up a slew of new Sealab 2021 episodes when Harry passed away, and those episodes are what are airing now.

Re:Don't forget (1)

goldspider (445116) | more than 10 years ago | (#7558043)

"The new SpaceGoasts CTC have been great as well as all of the other ones."

After reading that minor, humorous typo, I couldn't help but think of my sig.

Re:Don't forget (3, Insightful)

Cutriss (262920) | more than 10 years ago | (#7558137)

Even after the death of Harry Goz (1932 - 2003),voice of Captin Murphy on Sealab 2021, the show has bounced back imo and did a good new ep.

While it is true that Harry Goz did pass away, rumors of new episodes without his voicework are exaggerated.

Williams Street had just completed work on a new season of Sealab before Harry Goz died, and so all the episodes running in this season are his final work. They aren't put together weekly.

Anime (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7557786)

What is the big deal about anime? The translated dialog is often so stilted and incoherent that it would give William Shatner apoplexy.

The only anime that even remotely entertained me involved some little chinese schoolgirls getting viciously raped by some giant monster with 12 tentacles and a robotic crucifix or something. WTF!

Also unlikely... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7557801)

We will more likely see Ranma than Gunslinger Girl [animenfo.com] in the near future....

Re:Also unlikely... (1)

Jameth (664111) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557966)

There is some reason for that. Gunslinger Girl is extremely slow paced. Six eps in, it still only does backstory. It's very good, but kinda slow paced. Most Americans have very short attention spans. I assume that this is similar for the rest of the world as well, but I cannot be certain.

However, Ranma is pretty unlikely due to the excessive nudity. Of course, they can censor that stuff, but it's also kinda old.

GitS: Stand Alone Complex won't need much editing (1)

tuffy (10202) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557823)

The show was made for japanese TV viewing, whose standards aren't all that different from those of american TV. As such, the show features little of the gore and nudity of the feature film while still presenting plenty of action and musings about the ramifications of future technology. And besides, Bandai wants this on Adult Swim so they can sell plenty of shiny DVDs in preperation for the show's second season.

Re:Except for, that's not true.. (1)

Lord Bitman (95493) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557871)

I thought GitSAC was made for a Pay-per-view type service.. that's what the promotion for it said, anyway.

Re:Except for, that's not true.. (1)

Jameth (664111) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557985)

Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex has no nudity and virtually no gore. Only about one in every two episodes have and violence whatsoever, and much of that is not displayed in detail. The show is not about violence.

Re:GitS: Stand Alone Complex won't need much editi (1)

MooCows (718367) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557872)

Yes, sadly it seems Bandai is waiting for the show to air on TV in America before releasing the DVD's.
Many newer series than GITS: SAC are already (partly) available on DVD, while GITS: SAC isn't even announced yet. (afaik)

Re:GitS: Stand Alone Complex won't need much editi (1)

minasoko (710100) | more than 10 years ago | (#7558191)

This is true. Worryingly, it's becoming common with U.S. distributors (I think Tokyopop had the same plans for their bastardisation of Initial D).

Slightly off topic, but being in the U.K. and not getting to see any anime on TV, I was wondering if airing shows affects people's DVD purchases.

I'd expect that the people who'd pay for a cable channel that plays anime are hardcore enough to be downloading digisubs of shows before shelling out for DVDs anyway. So it seems the broadcasts must be aimed at non-enthusiasts in an attempt to increase the market, a development which could have good and bad consequences in my opinion.

Does this seem correct, what do people think?

Re:GitS: Stand Alone Complex won't need much editi (1)

M-2 (41459) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557900)

Well, in the first episode, Maj. Kusanagi blows a guy's foot off, but that's about a 2-second cut.

Most of the stuff you see in GitS:SAC will, I thing, be pretty much easy for them to cut.

(And I want the shiny DVDs!)

Re:GitS: Stand Alone Complex won't need much editi (1)

Fancia (710007) | more than 10 years ago | (#7558062)

As I recall, Cowboy Bebop's Adult Swim run was less censored than its Japanese television run.

Re:GitS: Stand Alone Complex won't need much editi (1)

tuffy (10202) | more than 10 years ago | (#7558103)

As I recall, Cowboy Bebop's Adult Swim run was less censored than its Japanese television run.

Only about half of Cowboy Bebop's episodes actually aired on its original japanese run. Episodes like "The Real Folk Blues" weren't shown until the second season on satellite TV. For those without satellite, the episodes went straight to video. So in this instance, american viewers got to see a lot more of the show.

Standalone Complex (4, Interesting)

Tim Fraser (16824) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557858)

I don't think the Ghost in the Shell Standalone Complex TV series would have to be edited too much for US TV. I have all but the last DVD (imported from Taiwan), and I think most of the episodes are free of anything that might cause US TVs to melt down in a fit of self-righteous indignation.

Of course, perhaps the good/bad stuff is in the last few episodes I don't have. I can't seem to get the last DVD. One of my local Anime dealers told me that this is intentional - He said that the producers of these (non-US) releases don't release the last DVD until they release the whole series as a boxed set. Their plan is to force all the fools (like myself) who bought the single DVDs to buy them all again in the boxed set in order to get the last episodes.

Can anyone confirm or debunk this theory?

- Tim

Re:Standalone Complex (1)

MooCows (718367) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557903)

Can anyone confirm or debunk this theory?

Could be, if I were you I'd just buy either the Japanese R2's (quite a few new releases have english subs on them) or wait for the (usually superior to R3) release of the R1's.

That's alot of regions ;)

Re:Standalone Complex (1)

Jameth (664111) | more than 10 years ago | (#7558003)

I have seen the entire series. It is clean of anything. No nudity, very low violence. Easily on par with Cowboy Bebop as it was shown on Adult Swim.

The show is not about violence.

Re:Standalone Complex (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7558336)

Well, there's at least one bit that'll need to be changed - in one episode, there's a short conversation where one person is sitting in front of a computer/TV (can't remember exactly, and haven't got time to check) and you can sort of hear the audio from the porno he's watching (and faintly see a reflection of it on his glasses). Other than that (or the Major's rather curious fashion sense), I don't recall seeing anything in the first 19 episodes that would cause concern.

Re:Standalone Complex (1)

Chibi (232518) | more than 10 years ago | (#7558256)

Can you post some more info on the set that you purchased? You mentioned that they are imported from Taiwan, so that makes me wonder if they are, in fact, bootlegs. There are some legitimate Taiwanese releases, so I don't want to make a huge assumption, but this idea of forcing someone to re-purchase the entire series just to get the ending doesn't sound quite right to me. I could possibly understand if this was done and two different sets had different extras, but restricting access to the shows itself sounds a bit odd...

Another thing I am seeing more and more are dishonest retailers. I recently bought some CDs which I thought were legitimate Japanese releases. It turns out that the discs were CDRs with really bad laser printer silk screens. The retailer went through the effort of making copies of all of the inserts, even the obis (paper sleeve). I've never heard of any bootleg quite like this. The kicker is that a lot of these CDR CDs were for out of print releases, and this retailer was even selling them at normal import prices (as opposed to the "normal" bootleg prices. The proverbial double-whammy. Anyway, the retailer was Digital Discs Anime. They lost their domain recently, but they still go to conventions. My advice to avoid them, since they are (in one way or the other) lying to their customers. Er, to get back on topic, my main point is that the guy selling you your DVDs might just be feeding you a line, trying to absolve himself of any guilt/responsibility.

Anyway, here's the Pirate Anime FAQ [anime.org.uk], just in case.

There is a danger here ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7557862)

If Cartoon Network puts more and more anime on, and it becomes more mainstream, then what will most of the aficionados do? It will be mainstream, and hence uncool. There will be lots of bitching and moaning about "selling out" and "it used to be good back in the day" (when in fact it never really changed), but I guess there is a little bit of time before that happens. Probably plenty of time to find something else that is obscure to latch on to and pretend to like just so they can claim sophistication over the unwashed masses.

Re:There is a danger here ... (1)

truenoir (604083) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557981)

You mean like music fans? Anime fans will always be able to nab fansubs well in advance of American TV or DVD release. If not that, they'll likely stick with subs not dubs for most things.

Re:There is a danger here ... (0)

Beardydog (716221) | more than 10 years ago | (#7558226)

I've got a friend who most of us call Anime Sarah who now claims to hate anime. Her reason? Liking anime has become too competetive.

Just found Rob Malda's porn collection (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7557882)

You were warned, here it is [rapeanime.com].

When are... (0)

homerules (688184) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557899)

The animators in Japan going to get better than the old Hanna Barbera stuff and at least up to par with South Park.

Wolf's Rain, Robin, and Others (1)

Jameth (664111) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557911)

Just my opinion, but Wolf's Rain really quite bad. The first season was impressive. It set up a lot of potential, and the second season was a total let-down. After four episodes of re-cap, they had weak character development and dumb plot-ideas. All-in-all, it's a bad show.

Witch Hunter Robin was good right up to the end. The very last episode was a little weak, but it was not bad. It was only worse than the previous episodes in that series.

Personally, I think the best serieses deserving a run right now are "Now and Then, Here and There" and "Full Metal Panic? Fumoffu", the first being one of the best all-around stories out there, and the second being just about the funniest thing ever.

Re:Wolf's Rain, Robin, and Others (1)

MooCows (718367) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557975)

"Now and Then, Here and There" .. on US TV??
I agree that it's a great series but .. a bit too nasty for US TV.

There's the rape of that girl, the child army, the interrogation of the main kid, kids shooting each other, etc.
Yeah, it has a very good serious story, but I wouldn't expect it to ever air on US TV.

(Of course they could edit it, but that would remove most of the material anyways)

Re:Wolf's Rain, Robin, and Others (1)

dsnowak (694482) | more than 10 years ago | (#7558006)

There were problems part way through the production of Wolf's Rain, which led to the recaps. It also went off the air in Japan before it was finished. The last four episodes are being done as OAV's--video only releases. My bet is the recaps will be left out of the broadcast run and the four OAV episodes tacked on to make it 26 episodes. Hopefully, the OAV's bring it to a good close. We shall see...

Re:Wolf's Rain, Robin, and Others (1)

truenoir (604083) | more than 10 years ago | (#7558026)

Wolf's Rain was great overall I thought. I haven't seen the last 4 episodes (it's 30, not 26). Four episodes of recap was terrible though. The story really did kinda burn out near the end though. But then, so did WHR. Probably the first Full Metal Panic would be good to run rather than Fumoffu.

Re:Wolf's Rain, Robin, and Others (1)

tuffy (10202) | more than 10 years ago | (#7558034)

Personally, I think the best serieses deserving a run right now are "Now and Then, Here and There" and "Full Metal Panic? Fumoffu", the first being one of the best all-around stories out there, and the second being just about the funniest thing ever.

FMP:Fumoffu has yet to be licensed. But if ADV gets it just like they got the original, it would wind up on ADV's own Anime Network rather than the Cartoon Network. It's a hilarious show, though, and superior to the original season IMHO.

As for "Now and Then, Here and There", though not a very explicit show, its content is just too intense for american broadcast - as others have mentioned.

Rurouni Kenshin (2)

X-Nc (34250) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557928)

I just wish they hadn't pulled Rurouni Kenshin from the afternoon block.

Re:Rurouni Kenshin (1)

blueZhift (652272) | more than 10 years ago | (#7558077)

Actually, I was a bit surprised that it was on during Toonami at all given the violence. Don't get me wrong, Kenshin is pretty deep, but some of the fighting is too violent (and realistic relative to DBZ) for the age group most likely to be watching that part of the day.

You can see it on the Saturday night line (after the kiddies are in bed) up right now. They recently started over, so now's my chance to catch up! :-)

cus anime is teh s uck (0, Troll)

iamdrscience (541136) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557986)

Why talk about Adult Swim staying on and only mention the anime? That's only half of the lineup! Sealab 2021, Aquateen Hunger Force, The Brak Show, Space Ghost, Harvey Birdman, Home Movies... these are all fantastically funny shows, not to mention they're the only place to see reruns of Family Guy and Futurama, two of the funniest cartoons ever.

Sure, anime's nice and all, but just as many people are attracted to the other shows on Adult Swim.

Also, Venture Brothers next summer, should be awesome if the pilot is anything to guage the series on.

Most anime on US TV is censored.... (2, Informative)

escallywag (715579) | more than 10 years ago | (#7557991)

Even in slots deceptively called "Adult Swim"....

Who wants to watch raped versions anyway ? Just stick to the original DVD's for the true anime experience.

robbIE ?serves? up more stuff that doesn't matter? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7558064)

what a surprise?

& that's 'no going back' (not, 'no where to run', you can still run as far/fast as you think you need to?) & no where to hide, as the lights come up. tell 'em robbIE? tell 'em about the phonIE monIE & your softwar gangster advertising .contracks?

lookout bullow. many of the creators' innocents continue to be damaged buy the order of greed/fear/ego based LIEforms.

the daze of the felonious georgewellian fuddite corepirate nazi softwar gangster stock markup execrable is WANing into coolapps/the abyss, at the increasing speed of right/light. tell 'em robbIE? or, just .continue to pretend, if you think you must?

consult with/trust in yOUR creator.... most of you are part of the upcoming light.

Re:robbIE ?serves? up more stuff that doesn't matt (1)

MooCows (718367) | more than 10 years ago | (#7558095)

& no where to hide, as the lights come up. tell 'em robbIE?

Hey, that looks like a fansub of Witch Hunter Robin episode 4.

How about an Adult Swim channel? (4, Insightful)

Orne (144925) | more than 10 years ago | (#7558108)

I, for one, welcome our new Unedited Cartoon Network... err...

Seriously, suppose Cartoon Network spun off a sister-station, and cable networks made it an optional channel to standard packages, who's purpose was to show anime in its raw form? Parents have the option for nudity and cursing on HBO & Cinemax, and they also have the control whether they want that stuff in their home or not. If you don't want it, the cable company can block it.

I'm not saying that we need a cartoon Spice channel (not that there's any shortage of hentai), just that there should be some medium for your average movie where you can catch the whole thing. The Cartoon Network has an image to keep as a channel for kids (the alternative to Nickelodeon), and they can't risk someones child staying up late and catching some unedited Vampire Hunter D.

Adult Swim has this nostalgic aura about it now (GiJoe, He-Man) ... like 80s Strike Back on VH1. And mix in a bit of "here's something cool you didn't know existed"... sort of like catching Most Extreme Elimination Challenge on TNT/SpikeTV. That's what anime is to American audiences... years of shows about robots and vampires, lasers and rockets and giant aliens, fast action and a "new" visual style.

There's something that bugs me about watching a show or movie when I know that it has been edited by some middleman... The director of the project had an artistic vision and those scenes & language capture the intent. You can't express the story of the rough mafia men in the Sopranos without the occasional trip to the strip club... this is what tells the story of men making bad choices and dealing with the consequences.

I've asked before (-1, Redundant)

The Ape With No Name (213531) | more than 10 years ago | (#7558308)

What is so special about Anime? Personally, I find it boring at best and downright turgid/dumb at times. Utterly incomprehensible plots, bad character development, obviously bad translations (I speak Japanese -- don't ask, not my choice, it happened because of a job), etc. A lot of the GUYS I work with are obsessed with it (let's just say that Master and Commander was breath of fresh air -- they hadn't read them and I had.). Is there anything about it other than the obvious I-wanna-shag-Asian-chicks(girls) thing? Or what about the Alien Tentacle Rape stuff? Just fucking disturbing. I just do not get it.
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