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New Battlestar Galactica Premieres Monday

michael posted more than 10 years ago | from the starbuck-gets-a-sex-change dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "In several news articles, 'Battlestar Galactica' returns in a new four hour mini-series on the Sci-Fi channel this Monday. However, there has been fan furor over some changes to the story. Aluminum Cylon enemies look more like humans, complete with feelings, including one with rabid sexual desires, and the quest is not for a mythical Earth, as it no longer exists. More information at the BattlestarGalactica.com website, and the Sci-Fi channel."

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another botched memory? (5, Informative)

sweeney37 (325921) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629104)

let's not forget that Edward James Olmos has warned fans of the original series to not watch. [bayarea.com]

Mike

Re:another botched memory? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7629208)

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I'm not surprised Ed said that... (5, Funny)

Idimmu Xul (204345) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629276)

From there, things get different. Starbuck, the hotshot fighter pilot played by Dirk Benedict in the original, is now a woman played by Katee Sackhoff

They can't just make Starbuck a woman :cry:

The show appears to be darker, sexier and a lot less escapist than the original.

Oh, that's ok then, as long as we get to see tits being squashed together in crappy lycra suits!

Re:I'm not surprised Ed said that... (2, Insightful)

hchaos (683337) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629403)

They can't just make Starbuck a woman :cry:
Sure they can, as long as they make Starbuck a hard drinking, hard gambling, sexually agressive woman. Otherwise there'd be no reason to keep the name "Starbuck".

Re:I'm not surprised Ed said that... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7629597)

Otherwise there'd be no reason to keep the name "Starbuck".

Unless she REALLY likes coffee.

Appropriate use of boobs & lycra (1)

TopShelf (92521) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629454)

Oh, that's ok then, as long as we get to see tits being squashed together in crappy lycra suits!


You're right - if they're going to go the boobs & lycra route, they should find a better show [utk.edu] to bring back...

Re:I'm not surprised Ed said that... (2, Funny)

Thud457 (234763) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629609)

"Oh, that's ok then, as long as we get to see tits being squashed together in crappy lycra suits!"

Jesus H Christ on a bicycle and his black bastard brother Bart! Why didn't they do it right then and remake "Buck Rodgers in the 25th Century"?!!! Goddamn that was every 14-year-old's dream!! mmmmmmmmm.... Erin Grey.... And Twiki & Dr Theopolis for the robosexuals out there.

Honestly, I will never be able to fathom the depths of stupidity of Hollywood. And they think their consumers are dumb!!!

Re:another botched memory? (4, Informative)

D'Arque Bishop (84624) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629315)

According to the producers, Olmos's warning was kinda taken out of context. Apparently he loves the new BSG, but felt that die-hard fans would not appreciate the changes made to the show. The quote printed on the site linked in the parent makes me agree with the producer. (Namely, "The intent and the way we've built the reality is very different from the reality of the original.")

The producer's rebuttal can be found here [scifi.com] .

For what it's worth, I've been watching my box set of the original series while stuck on a business trip. I'm hoping the new series will be good, but even if isn't, well... they're different series, and I'll judge them on their own merits, not how they relate to each other.

Just my $.02...

Re:another botched memory? (3, Insightful)

yiantsbro (550957) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629558)

..."they're different series, and I'll judge them on their own merits"...

This is perhaps the most reasonable and fair statement I have heard regarding the new show from either side.

I am a huge fan of the original series and look forward to continued efforts and new content based upon it. However it IS a different vision so it should be allowed to be judged on its own. Hey--it still has Vipers and the Galactica.

Re:another botched memory? (5, Insightful)

Dinosaur Neil (86204) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629546)

I watched the original series when it first aired and there was nothing else like it on TV at the time. Those were the lean years; no Star Trek except reruns of the original series, no other big budgeted SF TV shows (Space:1999 had been canned the year before BSG started), and no cable channels to fill the void. There were three networks (that's right, pre-FOX, pre-UPN) and cable was a rare thing involving bulky switch boxes... Whoa, this is turning into a "when I was your age" type rant.

In its day, BSG was fairly sophisticated and thoughtful. In its day, the SFX were the best you could see on TV (those vector graphics displays they used were, for the time, amazing). Re-making the show now with deacades of new Star Trek series and Farscape and SG1 and such to compare it to pretty much requires the details to be rebuilt from the ground up... The underlying theme of conflict and hope should hold up no matter who's gender changed.

Who? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7629110)

Three cheers for Lucille Ball

So in other words.. (0, Redundant)

panxerox (575545) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629115)

this sent Battlestar Galactica. Its an entirely different animal, it is in fact so different that I suspect that the only reason its title is BSG is to get the built in audience and that It could have been titled practically anything like "chicks in space" or "attack of the robot chicks"

Re:So in other words.. (4, Interesting)

nedron (5294) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629246)

Its an entirely different animal, it is in fact so different that I suspect that the only reason its title is BSG is to get the built in audience...
panxerox,

I agree completely. Same thing with Enterprise. The show is so lackluster and not "Star Trek" that Paramount was finally forced to prepend "Star Trek:" to the title to boost ratings. Had DS9 and Voyager not had Star Trek in the title, it's likely they would have died unlamented deaths for the same reasons.

Re:So in other words.. (1)

oogoody (302342) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629316)

DS9 rocks! And other baseless fanatical
statements.

GALACTICA 90210 (5, Funny)

Dynamic Ranger (725268) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629458)

or MELROSE SPACE

Cat got your tongue? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7629120)

Try to remove the color-problem by restarting your computer several times. -- Microsoft-Internet Explorer README.TXT

While you're in the mood.. (2, Interesting)

Steve 'Rim' Jobs (728708) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629122)

Check out the Battlestar Galactica Original costume and Prop Museum [kobol.com] .

Re:While you're in the mood.. (-1, Flamebait)

Ubergrendle (531719) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629217)

Beware of this Karma whore. See his jounral here:

http://slashdot.org/~Steve%20'Rim'%20Jobs/journal/

Mods, please respond accordingly.

mod parent up! (-1, Offtopic)

Frymaster (171343) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629313)

moderators, actaully go read the link in ubergrendle's post. very enlightening!

Re:mod parent up! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7629394)

what does him being a karma whore have anything to do with the content of his posts?

You must be pissed that this guy running rings around the moderators while you spent your life building up to 'excellent karma'.

"Brains! Brains!" (1)

grub (11606) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629145)


How did they reanimate the corpse of Lorne Greene [bonanza1.com] for this new series?

Re:"Brains! Brains!" (5, Funny)

schon (31600) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629178)

How did they reanimate the corpse of Lorne Greene for this new series?

Simple - when they started filming, he rolled over in his grave - they then just dug him up and put him in costume. :o)

Bad omens (5, Insightful)

Squideye (37826) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629152)

A preview on aintitcool.com [aintitcool.com] is not optimistic.

Looks sex-addled, low-action, and pretty scanty on the mythology. "Cylon Fembots" is all we need to know.

The mythology was pretty much all that made it distinctive, such as it was, in the original case.

Re:Bad omens (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7629199)

Wow, I actually get to take a quarter out of my Harry Knowles is a stupid fucker jar

Re:Bad omens (4, Funny)

Dutchmaan (442553) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629232)

..but all my business man charts saids that nerds like sex and science fiction!

Oh well... at least we already got paid.

OT: aintitcool site contents (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7629319)

OK this is the first time I've been to aintitcool.com... Why in god's name is the entire article text defined as <h2> tags?!?!? That's one of the most moronic html authoring moves I've ever seen.

Re:OT: aintitcool site contents (4, Informative)

Schnapple (262314) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629547)

Knowles designed the site on his laptop in 1996 or so when he was in the hospital. It's pretty much been unchanged ever since. His forums are ultra-low-tech and tend to attract the lowest of life, and the whole thing's powered by inefficent CGI scripts so when something popular drops (like his early review of Episode 2), the site's unreachable for days.

In short his site is indicative of eight-year-old design sensibilities.

the only thing the same is the viper (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7629157)

I watched the 'lowdown' on scifi channel and as far as i can tell the only thing that has been left looking like it used to is the viper. Im willing the watch it i just don't think its going to measure up the the old series.

Re:the only thing the same is the viper (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7629407)

The rough design of the Galactica itself seems the same, although in the previews, I've yet to see the rag-tag fleet of civilian ships that you see in just about every BSG episode.

Two things that tick me off, though:

1. They made two of my favorite characters women. Not to be sexist, here or anything, but the only way I see Starbuck and Boomer's characters working as women is if at least one of them is a lesbian.

2. The Cylons. Period. Everything about them is lameified. The Cylons were supposed to be these cold, unfeeling, unremorseful drones. They core conflict is that the humans and cylons are so fundamentally different (they're opposites in every aspect except their mutual violent tendancies) that they can never reach any mutual settlement terms. Making them look human, and more importantly, giving them feelings and desires makes them, for all intents and purposes, human. This sort of storyline isn't neccessarily a BAD one, but it is NOT, by any measure, Battlestar Galactica.

What, no Lorne Green? (2, Interesting)

RealProgrammer (723725) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629162)

It's been way too many yarons since I've been able to see Our Hero.

Maybe some digital recreation of LG could allow him to reprise his role.

Re:What, no Lorne Green? (1)

Jbrecken (107271) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629252)

They at least should have gotten Noah Hathaway.

Alpo boy! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7629168)

Before BSG, Lorne Greene was hawking Alpo as his only gig.

The new BSG needs another has-been to lead it up. Maybe Yakov Smirnof?

Little? Cylon? Different? (3, Insightful)

Tebriel (192168) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629173)

You know, if they wanted to do a different story, that's fine. Great. Good stuff. They shouldn't, however, have called it Battlestar Galactica. They should have slapped on a different name for the Cylons, different ships, and different character names. Not that hard to do, but it would probably draw more people to watch it than tacking on a known name and then having it blow up in their faces.

Which I think they deserve.

You mean like the original series did? (1, Insightful)

ianscot (591483) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629307)

Battlestar Galactica was hardly an original series even when it was the original series. This will be like a CGI rendition of a photocopy of a carbon copy of Star Wars.

And yes, I saw the movie release of the original -- in SENSAROUND! Which meant, back then, bass speakers less impressive than those playing in the "Love Boat" revamp I saw last weekend, "Love Actually." (That movie took the high road, though, and did not call the loser who traveled to Wisconsin "Gopher.")

Re:Little? Cylon? Different? (1)

jjhall (555562) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629428)

And how is this much worse than the Star Trek series? Look at Klingons in the original series, and Klingons in TNG. That is a LOT of evolution in a very short (relatively speaking) time period.

One has to take a step back and realize they are just making TV shows and/or movies here. When they turn a book into a movie, make an addition to the series, or re-make an old one, etc, there will always be differences. Otherwise, what is the point in re-making it?

Re:Little? Cylon? Different? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7629450)

You know, if they wanted to do a different story, that's fine. Great. Good stuff. They shouldn't, however, have called it Battlestar Galactica.

Yeah. Misuse of a name (*cough* Phantom Menace) can really destroy (*cough* Attack of the Clones) a franchise (*cough* Star Trek: Insurrection).

T3 in space (1)

chiph (523845) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629520)

Terminatrix In Space!

BSG a network tv production (4, Insightful)

Ubergrendle (531719) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629177)

Battle Star Galactica got its genesis from some TV execs who wanted to emulate the success of Star Wars on the small screen. I'm not overly familiar with the back story, but BSG has always struck me as a hodge podge of space opera concepts, strung together long enough to maintain a TV series. Where shows like Dr Who and Star Trek at least had a conceptual basis and tried to do something original, BSG was an attempt to fill a 1 hour timeslot once per week. I don't think BSG deserves to be considered alongside other shows in the great SF series pantheon, even though the Cylons looked cool.

Re:BSG a network tv production (2, Insightful)

StillNeedMoreCoffee (123989) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629411)

For sure, I remember watching the episode where I believe it was starbuck crashed and was stranded on a planet that was a copy of the Wild West and the local tough guy had gotten his hands on a damaged Cylon and reprogrammed it to be his gunfighter enforcer. Starbuck was taken in by a Widow with child who nursed him back to life. He has to eventually go into town and have a Western Style shootout.. then leave.. halfway through I stood up and shouted "Shane"... About the only reason I watched it was to see what plot they had stolen and how thinly they had applied the Sci Fi paint to it.

Other great examples but done better. "The Magnificent 7" (Seven Samari). Many of the Clint Eastwood Dollar films (Tashira Mafune Ronin character). "Master Gunfigher" (Goyokin) (that was the best worst direct copy. And the Rudger Haurer Blind Swordsman film copying the Zato Ichi (Shintaro Katsu as Zato Ichi character).

Plagerism + Royalties + Proper Attribution = productivity

DVD screeners are out there (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7629179)

Be the first on your block [ebay.com] to see it! Piss off the MPAA at the same time! What could be more fun?

Is it that popular? (2, Insightful)

QuackQuack (550293) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629180)

I always saw BG as a cheap Star Wars rip-off. Is it really that popular? It never seemed to have much of a following, like Star Trek and other SF shows.

It was never cheap (2, Interesting)

Mycroft_514 (701676) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629204)

Part of the reason the show was canceled was because it was too expensive to produce at the time.

I am waiting to see the new series before I pass judgement.

Re:Is it that popular? (1)

GoofyBoy (44399) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629383)

>I always saw BG as a cheap Star Wars rip-off. Is it really that popular?

Its popular in the same way that Go-Bots were popular. Only because it was "like" another more popular product (StarWars/Transformers).

Will there be Cylons? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7629184)

Without Cylons the show will be crap!

Please... (-1, Flamebait)

Code-Ex (655722) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629185)

Somebody capture it and post some bittorrents.

Don't worry... (2, Funny)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629195)

...half way through the season they'll figure out that they're loosing ratings and have the characters suddenly stumble upon evidence of the Xinidi^H^H^H^H^H^H Earth and begin a quest to find it. Then they'll destroy some of the deepest elements of the show by using them in throw-away lines.

Re:Don't worry... (1)

Eric Sharkey (1717) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629514)

...half way through the season...

You mean two hours in to the four hour miniseries? They're going to have to do some pretty quick filming to get the second half done between Monday and Tuesday night.

Re:Don't worry... (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629612)

You know, I was waiting for a response like this. Has Slashdot lost all it's humor? Let me explain the joke.

You see, "Enterprise" was such a piss poor series that they had to "spice it up" by adding in some sort of story arc. (The fact that there's no planned arc to the "story arc" is apparently beside the point.) This story arc was supposed to help "Enterprise" reconnect with the Star Trek fan base. In reality they simply annoyed everyone all that much more. Thus the basis of my joke is that they're doing the same bullshit to Galactica that they did to "Enterprise".

Oh, and I have no doubt that they'll "spin off" into a series in which they'll suddenly "discover evidence of Earth". TV execs seem to be kind of stupid these days. They filibuster any and all good show concepts (even if they're shoe-ins!) then if they actually get around to producing it, they "re-imagine" to add T&A in place of the story line. Of course, at that point they actually have something on the air, so they work quickly to milk it for everything it's worth before they cancel it citing "low ratings".

I'd REALLY love to know what the hell these execs are thinking. No, scratch that. It's probably best I don't know....

I think I speak for a lot of people when I say (3, Funny)

Idimmu Xul (204345) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629202)

'Battlestar Galactica' returns in a new four hour mini-series on the Sci-Fi channel this Monday. However, there has been fan furor over some changes to the story. Aluminum Cylon enemies look more like humans, complete with feelings, including one with rabid sexual desires, and the quest is not for a mythical Earth, as it no longer exists.

WHY FUCKING BOTHER?

Re:I think I speak for a lot of people when I say (1)

Hayzeus (596826) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629477)

I'm sure the parent will get modded down as a troll, but he has a point: the original series was REALLY cheesy. Typical 70s series fare in s sci-fi setting with decent (for the day) special effects.

Too many humanoid aliens (5, Insightful)

luckytroll (68214) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629210)

I really miss the old shows like Dr. Who that had really alien aliens - crazy blobs, and lethal rocks, and robots without faces. Now every alien has to have a humanoid form and a face so that the actor can "act" and the audience can empathise. When did the universe become so darned human?

Re:Too many humanoid aliens (5, Funny)

agentZ (210674) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629362)

Maybe you should try "The Simple Life" on FOX. I hear it has characters you can't empathise with.

Re:Too many humanoid aliens (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7629380)

It's simple, it's really hard to have sex scenes with non-humanoid aliens and make it look erotic without showing nipples and/or genitals. Unless of course you hire William Shatner...

Re:Too many humanoid aliens (1)

Pointy_Hair (133077) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629438)

Because the modern television series relieves you of that entirely overrated thinking and imagination stuff. Besides - lethal rocks are no match for the other toys on the market.

Re:Too many humanoid aliens (3, Insightful)

mblase (200735) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629498)

When did the universe become so darned human?

Always has been. Sci-fi literature did it first, but the original "Star Trek" was probably definitive in using humans with makeup and funny clothes as aliens. The simple and obvious reason is that it's much easier for studios to produce human actors as aliens, and easier for viewers to relate to them.

When you have an alien that's a blob or a rock or a robot, you have to work ten times harder to find the pathos. "Dr. Who" used them as identityless villains without much in the way of personality.

Re:Too many humanoid aliens (1)

freeweed (309734) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629525)

When did the universe become so darned human?

When the Star Trek budget was announced.

I've never managed to catch the NG episode where they explain why all aliens look humanoid, but I heard it's a pretty interesting story, and somewhat consistent with the ST universe.

Snore. Wake me when Farscape starts up again. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7629229)

It's supposed to have a 4-hour mini-series next year, right?

How about someone reviving Crusade?

All this furor over the desecration of... (4, Funny)

Infonaut (96956) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629244)

Battlestar Galactica?

I could understand if we were talking about Shazam, or Land of the Lost or some other really important show from that era. ;-)

But Battlestar Galactica?

Re:All this furor over the desecration of... (-1, Troll)

Charles_Anus (729584) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629333)

re: Land of the Lost

I downloaded an interview with Holly and the guy that played Chaka off of eDonkey. Let's just say that time has not been kind to Holly. She looks and sounds like a biker-chick/crack-whore.

Re:All this furor over the desecration of... (-1, Troll)

Charles_Anus (729584) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629368)


FYI, here's the eDonkey link to the file I mentioned..

ed2k://|file|Land.of.the.Lost.-.Holly.and.Cha-Ka.( all.grown.up).Interview.mpg|147192864|34CE5CB74B8D 457F04FD32F7E40B69BD|/

Yeah (1)

Greyfox (87712) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629404)

I used to really dig the show when I was 10. I caught a few minutes of an old episode just recently and it made me vomit. I'm lucky I stopped watching when I did or I'd have horked up several internal organs. Just thinking about it makes me queasy now.

It'll fail (3, Interesting)

SexyKellyOsbourne (606860) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629257)

It has all the classic formulas of the newest Star Trek series:

1) It is based on an old, out-dated Sci-Fi show that will not appeal to the mainstream public, no matter how much senseless T&A, sexually charged adult themes, pointless gun battles, and especially computer animation they add.

2) It does not appeal to the old fans whatsoever, because of many of the same reasons in #1, plus the fact that it is "untr00" and often fails to explore many of the themes of the older series, and rather focuses on the "development" of silly, stereotypical characters.

It'll fail after a few seasons of low ratings.

Re:It'll fail (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7629377)

What, are the play one hour a season?

Re:It'll fail (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7629392)

It will fail in the long run as a series because it's a four hour mini-series

Serverstar Implodica (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7629265)


Serverstar Implodica.

Anybody watch SciFi Previews? (5, Interesting)

cblguy (697834) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629277)

I usually leave SciFi channel on in the evenings when working. Saw a preview. I am looking forward to it. I watch all kinds of B-scifi-movies, and actually enjoy them.

They flat out stated that they were taking a different approach to this BSG. In the earlier one, the Cylons were just mad at humans. That's all we knew. Why? Nobody knew. What was their history? Nobody knew. At least they're attempting some sort of story / history on the Cylons, and not just an Independence Day scenario of aliens attacking because they feel in a pissy mood that day.

I am glad the SciFi channel at least does *something*, but I'm still not happy they discontinued Farscape.

I enjoyed their Dune remakes (bought the DVD's even). I'm a sick pup, but those 3- and 4- star (out of IMDB's 10 star rating) are some of my faves. :D

Re:Anybody watch SciFi Previews? (1)

jamesoutlaw (87295) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629495)

In one episode of the original series, maybe the pilot, one of the characters stated that the Cylons attacked the colonies because the humans helped another race get out from under Cylon oppression. That's about all I remember... you are right though, the old series never really gave much detail on the Cylon race at all.

The biggest problem I had with the old series though was how they broght Baltar back to life, haha. At the end of the Pilot movie, a Cylon centurion decapitated him... then he suddenly reappears in the series. I don't think they ever explained that.

I am reserving judgement on the remake until after I see the new miniseries. I was a huge fan of BSG when I was a kid.

Wont suck as much as LOTR (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7629283)

After suffering through Lord of the Rings, any shitty series will be interesting.

How can you be a purist? (2, Insightful)

JonathanF (532591) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629287)

I can't imagine someone being in a furor over changes to the storyline in the remake of a short-lived and not always universally-liked series like Battlestar Galactica. It would be like complaining that they changed the dolphin in SeaQuest DSV to an Orca!

Re: A pro-active orca? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7629642)

Hey, an "in-your-face" Orca could be just what SeaQuest needs to draw new viewers! You've heard the phrase "let's get busy"? How about an Orca that gets biz-ay, consistantly and thoroughly...

The theme tune (4, Funny)

mccalli (323026) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629297)

But does it have God's perfect theme tune, which is what the original was? A superb piece of music, as stirring in Battlestar Galactica as it was in Revenge of the Mutant Camels...

Cheers,
Ian

Re:The theme tune (2, Interesting)

GigsVT (208848) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629424)

There's no excuse after all, Jeff Minter could probably be pryed away from his sheep and yaks long enough to score it for them. :)

the usual complaints (2, Insightful)

looie (9995) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629309)

why would i want to watch an "updated" version of the original? what does that mean, exactly, "updated"?

i've watched a couple of the originals on sci-fi this week. c'mon people, it was a lame show with low-res special effects and horse-opera plots. it was "wagon train" in outer space! some of it was so badly done, it was "cover-your-eyes" embarrassing.

how do you update that? apparently, the complainers want the producers to give them the same tired plots with the same tired characters but in different uniforms with "hi-res" special effects. how boring.

i don't know if the new version is any good, of course, as i haven't yet seen it. but it's for sure that it should be allowed to stand or fall on its own merits. "is it a good movie?" is the only question that needs answering. it is not the original -- thank goodness. we already know that one was a clunker.

mp

This is not BSG (1)

Phoenix-kun (458418) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629331)

Only some of the names happen to be the same. Starbuck a woman, no 1000 year war, no earth? What's next? A series named Star Wars that involves mud wrestling between Britney Spears and Paris Hilton playing as Leia and Padme?

Re:This is not BSG (1)

NullStmt (210281) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629420)

I'd watch that over this crappy BSG remake any day. What channel is that on again...

Re:This is not BSG (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7629459)

Ask not "what's next", but ask "what's new"? This is what TV and movie makers to - look at this summers Italian Job - aside from a heist and some Minis, it had nothing to do with the great original

Re:This is not BSG (1)

irussel (78667) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629484)

That might actually be an improvement over Episodes I and II.

irussel

Re:This is not BSG (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7629491)

I'd watch that..... mmmmmm mud wrestling

Re:This is not BSG (1)

ScottCanto (705723) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629499)

Maybe their shirts will happen to get cleanly ripped half way off.

Fanservice Galactica (1)

b1t r0t (216468) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629348)

Sounds to me like the only thing good about this show is Edward James Olmos. Everything else is the usual ratings-fodder crap. "But, without lots of breasts, nobody will watch it!" Monty Python was right about television programme planners.

Hrmm, have they tried advertising this? (5, Funny)

Bluetick (516014) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629365)

Is it just me, or is Sci-Fi really letting this slip under the radar. I've been watching the Sci-Fi channel, and really haven't noticed any promotion of this at all. Maybe they should try some flashy campaign with lots of explosions, cg graphics, hot chicks, and some ridiculous lines repeated over and over. But I don't know, I just don't see this thing panning out with this little promotion. Who knows, it could be a sleeper hit.

Re:Hrmm, have they tried advertising this? (1)

cblguy (697834) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629445)

You're kidding, right? I usually have SciFi on from 7-10 pm CST every night. Every other commercial on SciFi has been for BSG, and they've been running the 1-hour specials all the time too....

They're promoting the heck out of it, IMO...

Maybe they should have done it like... (1)

Jesus_666 (702802) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629375)

...Space Patrol/Raumpatruouille Orion, the 1966 Grandfather-of-SciFi-series.
The Raumpatrouille movie [raumpatrou...derfilm.de] is basically the original episodes glued together with some new footage.

Number 6 (4, Informative)

Call Me Black Cloud (616282) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629410)

A hot Cylon in a low cut dress...woo hoo! Here's the actress' biography from the SciFi site:

Victoria's Secret model Tricia Helfer was born in Donalda, Alberta, Canada. The 1992 Ford Supermodel of the World winner and former Elite model has graced the covers of such magazines as Elle,Amica Italia and Cosmopolitan UK, and has walked the runways for Christian Dior, Givenchy, Claude Montana, Emanuel Ungaro and other top fashion designers.

Clearly the producers have spared no expense in landing top thespians. According to IMDB [imdb.com] , her previous acting gigs include:

A part in an episode of CSI, where she played a model who ends up dead.

A small part in the 16 minute short "Eventual Wife"

A judge at the 2003 Miss Teen USA

The role of Farrah Fawcett in "Behind the Camera: The Unauthorized Story of 'Charlie's Angels'"

IMDB also reports her measurements are 34-24-34

Starbuck and Apollo (2, Interesting)

Sturm (914) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629416)

I know that this will be worn out on this thread, but I'll be DAMN if I'm going to watch a half-ass attempt to recreate a classic sci-fi series that changes the gender of two of the main characters. That is just blatant pandering to try and interest different demographics. You wouldn't make Buck Rogers a woman and you wouldn't make Wonder Woman a man. I just don't see why people can't leave well enough alone. The original series was popular for a reason. Why change the formula?

hmmm (1)

Rhinobird (151521) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629530)

Wonder Woman a man....hey wait a minute isn't that on the BBC right now? or am I thinking of something else?

Bah! (3, Interesting)

FrostedWheat (172733) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629423)

I thought they where moving away from space-based shows? Wasn't that one of the reasons they give for stopping Farscape?

Lord I hope this doesn't suck... (3, Interesting)

ArmenTanzarian (210418) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629444)

It's generalizations that could lead to disaster:

"Starbuck was a womanizing, cigar-smoking guy," explains SciFi.com general manager Craig Engler. "Now, she's a man-izing, cigar-smoking bundle of trouble."

Yeah, all he did was have sex and smoke cigars, that's why his character was so great... Not to mention "bundle of trouble" popping up highly on my oh-crap-o-meter for plucky obnoxious characters.

Only time will tell how well adding hot chicks who can't act to dead TV series' will work out. I thought (and please don't flame me for this) SciFi did a pretty good job with Dune though, but they didn't try to make Paul a woman.

Re:Lord I hope this doesn't suck... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7629613)

Off track BUT - Talking of sucking who thinks that Brian Herbert should be hounded from the face of the planet for his crimes against Dune?

The beginning of the end (3, Insightful)

ScottCanto (705723) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629448)

As the new series premieres, those of us who loved the old one will lament the modernized, politically correct show geared towards the typical American audience.

Let's wait until next Monday to schedule the wake. (1)

grunherz (447840) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629462)

I've watched "The Lowdown" and decided to give it a chance.

Okay, I'll admit that I think Grace Park (the "new" Boomer) is hot and will probably be one of the main reasons I watch.

But the effects look good (including the 'snapzoom' effect ripped off from Lucas and Episode 3) and how cool is it going to be to see a planet full of badly dressed people carpet nuked from space?

Disclaimer: I'm a lame-o who thinks the Original has aged well.

Typical Corruption (2, Insightful)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629465)

Its pretty typical these days, to take a 'known show', pervert it to fit todays standards.. toss in a bunch of sex and big explosions to raise market share....

What ever happend to REAL sci-fi that required the viewer/reader to actualy THINK....

Re:Typical Corruption (1)

PhxBlue (562201) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629574)

What ever happend to REAL sci-fi that required the viewer/reader to actualy THINK....

You can still find that, if you look for it in the Sci-Fi section of your local bookstore. :)

Wired article (5, Funny)

PIPBoy3000 (619296) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629466)

Wired has an article [wired.com] on it as well.

Personally, I'll give it a chance. When I was a kid, there was an early 2-hour episode and I pestered my parents to leave the pizza place so I could make it back in time. We returned to find the rug burning in front of our fireplace. Our parents ran into the kitchen to fill pots and pour it on the fire. Us kids ran into the t.v. room to huddle under the smoke and watch our show.

I now refer to the tale as the time Battlestar Galactica saved our house.

Fans who don't watch are morons because.... (2, Insightful)

SoVi3t (633947) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629490)

....remember when Star Trek decided that Klingons should have funny looking forheads, instead of just being played by african americans? That's pretty much the same deal here. Times change people. What was once done 10-20 years ago can't still be done now. Or else we'd still be boogying to disco, wearing tie dyed shirts, and listening to Zeppelin. I never really watched much of the original, but dammit, I'm still gonna give the new one a chance. Cuz if anything, the stuff on tv right now just plain SUCKS (aside from Simpsons)

Obligatory Family Reference: (4, Funny)

dark_panda (177006) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629508)

Scene: Community cable access TV show. Portly 30-something, probably single, hosts:

"That's all for this week on KISS Forum. Stay tuned for Battlestar Galactica Forum."

Quickly puts on Cylon helmet

"WELCOME TO BATTLESTAR GALACTICA FORUM."

J

Re:Obligatory Family Guy Reference: (1)

dark_panda (177006) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629540)

er, Family Guy reference. I even previewed thrice.

J

So What? (1)

drxenos (573895) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629556)

So, they changed it. Big deal. Why would you want to watch the same story over again? Anyone having heart ache over this should get a life.

Not going to judge (1)

james_orr (574634) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629605)

I'm not going to judge it until I see it.

It is possible that they have parted from the original series and actually made it better you know :).

I did enjoy the original series, but i'm certainly not a die-hard fan of it.

Now that's script reuse for you... (1)

Channard (693317) | more than 10 years ago | (#7629646)

Flesh Gordon 3 - This Time It's Tinfoil - lives, albeit with the title crossed out and replaced with 'Battlestar Galactica'.
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