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Mame on the Nokia N-Gage

CmdrTaco posted more than 10 years ago | from the start-your-lust dept.

Emulation (Games) 217

wraggster writes "The Nokia N-Gage has now joined the club of consoles for whom the excellent MAME (Multi Arcade Machine Emulator) was ported to. Staffan Ulfberg has ported EMame over to the N-Gage - the emulator supports a mass of games."

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Yeah ... and? (0, Insightful)

Matrix272 (581458) | more than 10 years ago | (#7632923)

It's just a shame that no good games are for the N-Gage. Any games that are even remotely interesting are already out for other systems.

Re:Yeah ... and? (2, Offtopic)

xeno_gearz (533872) | more than 10 years ago | (#7632968)

True there are few good games out for the Ngage but I was pleased with the graphics of Red Faction, and Tony Hawk. Still, it seems quite overpriced and two games does not make for a good library.

Perhaps it would just be better to have a cheap cell phone and a gameboy advance.

One advantage of the Ngage is the bluetooth multiplayer gaming. FPS deathmatch in class!

multiplayer gaming (1)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633050)

FPS deathmatch? Even better, now thanks to MAME - multiplayer Mario Brothers. Or better yet, Karate Champ. ("Full Point!") Awww yeahhh...

Re:multiplayer gaming (0)

Vint Cerf (713706) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633279)

Yeah, except that all twelve of the GBA's Super Mario Advance titles have multiplayer Mario Bros booting from a single cart.

Re:Yeah ... and? (4, Informative)

Tumbleweed (3706) | more than 10 years ago | (#7632978)

Did you miss the article? Thanks to this port of MAME, there are now many good games for N-Gage! :)

Besides, what games for a dinky little screen like the N-Gage's would anyone want other than Tetris? Well, maybe Pac-Man.

I find it amusing the 'screenshots' on this project page aren't even FROM an N-Gage.

Re:Yeah ... and? (1)

HTH NE1 (675604) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633043)

Any games that are even remotely interesting are already out for other systems.


Thanks to this port of MAME, there are now many good games for N-Gage! :)

Since MAME is an emulator, wouldn't that make those games "already out for other systems" by definition?

Not that those games aren't great!

Re:Yeah ... and? (0, Redundant)

gxv (577982) | more than 10 years ago | (#7632979)

And now they are.
Thousands of them. From MAME

ADW, 12/3/2003 : (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633023)

AAQ88

Ohhhhh, that don't look good. Aces and eights, the dead man's hand.

Re:Yeah ... and? (1, Flamebait)

hpavc (129350) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633049)

i seriously doubt that thousands of games work on that port.

well (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633088)

I seriously doubted that your mom could fit my entire wang in her mouth, but there you go.

Re:well (1)

awx (169546) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633119)

Well said, that man.

Re:Yeah ... and? (1)

NetFu (155538) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633540)

Why don't you try thousands of them on an eMAME install and then come back and tell us they don't? That's the only way you know for sure -- FUD like your statement doesn't tell us anything, the only thing that does is real-world testing.

I've run MAME on a helluva lot of different platforms and almost all of the ROM's work on every platform because MAME is that good of an emulator. Granted, some of the most recent ROM's (from 2001-2003, for example) may have problems, especially on a low-end platform like a Symbian OS phone, but I consider running a large number of arcade games on my PHONE to be really damn cool...

RUSH LIMBAUGH EATS EVERYTHING (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633194)

See for yourself [e-sheep.com]

Re:RUSH LIMBAUGH EATS EVERYTHING (1)

fenix down (206580) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633345)

Well, not so much anymore. All that heroin kinda killed his appetite.

System was dead before it was out the door... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7632937)

Honestly, who actually wants an N-gage. Even if it could emulate a GBA and SNES to perfection I wouldn't go 10 feet near it. Who the hell wants to talk into a taco? Worst design ... EVER.

Re:System was dead before it was out the door... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7632975)

"This is Al Gore, and I am so totally sidetalkin' [sidetalkin.com] at you right now!"

You are talking into a Taco (3, Funny)

tepples (727027) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633029)

You are already talking into a (Slashdot story posted by Cmdr)Taco.

Re:System was dead before it was out the door... (3, Funny)

Frymaster (171343) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633034)

... and how are you going to cram four people around it for guantlet 2?

Re:System was dead before it was out the door... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633092)

Ever heard of this nifty thing called Wireless? Radio? Bluetooth?

Re:System was dead before it was out the door... (1)

HTH NE1 (675604) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633102)

... and how are you going to cram four people around it for guantlet 2?

There are versions/plug-ins for MAME that allow multiplayer gaming over the Internet. Surely they'd port that over to work over Bluetooth.

Karma goes to the first person to cite the site on sight.

Re:System was dead before it was out the door... (3, Informative)

TonkaTown (186808) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633218)

Actually it's not, I can tell you've never been near one for at least three reasons:

1. If you use it traditional phone style, you really don't have to hold it in the exagerated sidetalkin' style, it's fine held more discretely and a hell of a lot more comfortable in the hand.

2. It comes with a wired headset, which has a few uses, it's the antennae for the built in FM radio, it means you get to hear our MP3s in stereo, and you can use it for non taco-stylee phone calls.

3. Oh yeah, it's got Bluetooth too, and Bluetooth headsets are great, you keep the phone in your pocket and your hands are free for driving or whatever.

The only possible reason I can see for sidetalkin' with the N-Gage is that it does look pretty funny and maybe it's a good way for spotty teens to visually shout out "LOOK AT MY NEW TOY".

Re:System was dead before it was out the door... (4, Informative)

thesolo (131008) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633428)

Actually it's not, I can tell you've never been near one for at least three reasons:

I have to disagree, it's still dead on arrival for one main reason: changing games.

Those three positives you mentioned (and bluetooth is a big one, in my opinion) don't outweigh the fact that to change games on an N-Gage, you have to do the following:

1) Turn the unit off (which means, turn your *phone* off).
2) Flip it over, and remove the battery cover & battery.
3) Take out the very tiny game chip, replace it with a new game.
4) Replace battery & battery cover.
5) Turn unit back on, wait for system to load, go to the right menu, and then start your game.

Compare this to a GBA, where the steps are turning it off, removing the game cart, putting in a new one, and turning it back on. Especially compare this to a GBA if you're on a train, bus, streetcar, or any other form of public transit. Try easily changing a game on the N-Gage while crammed into a seat on a subway.

This flaw in their design absolutely kills any of the positives of the system, and makes it, at least to me and many other people, D.O.A. Not to mention that I personally really don't want to turn off my phone when I swap games.

Obligatory link.... (1)

mrpuffypants (444598) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633289)

Sidetalkin! [sidetalkin.com]

third prost (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7632938)

thrid or scedon psot111

Even games... (3, Funny)

jayhawk88 (160512) | more than 10 years ago | (#7632940)

...that don't look like ass?

Seriously, have you seen those "This is where I..." ads for this thing? The game screenshots they show look like total crap. I don't know about you, but if I was a developer, I'd be embarrassed to see my game on national TV looking like it was running on an Atari Lynx.

Re:Even games... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633009)

They look a hell of a lot better than the GBA games - which just look like snes games. At least the NGage has 3-D acceleration.

Re:Even games... (1)

jcenters (570494) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633155)

It's not that the games look like crap. In fact, they're not bad looking for such a small device, but they look as if they run at no more than 5 FPS.

Look at Red Faction in the ad! It looks like a frickin' slideshow! And that's probably after dressing it up considerably for the ad. But you're right, either way, the games look simply embarrassing.

Re:Even games... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633447)

Seriously, have you seen those "This is where I..." ads for this thing?

Aye. I'm waiting for a magazine like EDGE to write an article entitled,

"The is where Nokia wasted $120 million"

with a nice little photo of their European Headquarters...

-- Stevie :)

This Is A Hoax (4, Funny)

lewp (95638) | more than 10 years ago | (#7632948)

For this to be true, someone would actually have to own an NGage. Come on, nobody's that dumb.

Re:This Is A Hoax (0)

JGag21 (678945) | more than 10 years ago | (#7632987)

I'm sure Nokia is somehow behind this. I mean if they couldn't sell it with games, or discounts, why not push it for emulation?

This might be alright (1, Insightful)

Cap'nMike (631536) | more than 10 years ago | (#7632954)

I would love to take a bunch of old NES or arcade games with me to travel.

n-gage? meh... (2, Interesting)

twiggy (104320) | more than 10 years ago | (#7632959)

I forget the name of it, but a new n-gage like competitor is coming out that supposedly may cost as little as $100... It also won't require you to remove the battery just to change games...

MAME is cool and all, but man... even geeks don't seem to like the N-gage (they hate it more than most).. I wonder why someone bothered with this...

Re:n-gage? meh... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7632998)

.. I wonder why someone bothered with this...

Now we know who is the guy that bought it!

HO-Gauge (1)

heliocentric (74613) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633005)

Just ignore the little N-Gauge toys and go with the more popular HO-Guage as you will find more equipment available and as you grow older the largher scale will work better with your eyes when it comes to the finer detail work. Plus I think the track looks more realistic.

Oh... wait, that's n-gage... well, that's just a bunch of hooey.

Re:HO-Gauge (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633096)

Amazing. Model railroad puns still aren't funny.

Slashbot Astroturf (0, Troll)

SunPin (596554) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633159)

Nice icon... except that the X-Arcade sucks. Of course, /. will use the icon at every opportunity since they make 15% on each sale of this flimsy, desk-sliding, trackball-lacking, spinner-bereft piece of Chinese slave labor trash.

The astroturf is getting a bit out of hand. Try news for the sake of informing readers.

Too bad the NGage runs like a 386 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7632965)

This is great if you want to run Astoroids and Pac-Man. What about games from the late 1980's and on? I drool thinking about the day I can play NFL Blitz 2000 on a handheld.

Re:Too bad the NGage runs like a 386 (0)

Big_Ass_Spork (446856) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633061)

Get a Game Boy Advance. I have a GBA SP and love it, take it with me everywhere. I have NFL Blitz 2002 for it. The system and that game can be had for $119 at Game Stop.

MAME for Windows? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7632973)

Is there a Win32 version of MAME? I tried for a couple of days to get it working on Linux once, but like so many other things Linux, it was a bitch to get working, so I gave up.

Anyhow, if there is a Windows version, I'm all over this.

Seriously, is Linux so arcane because you guys WANT it that way? To keep your club for the elite?

Re:MAME for Windows? (2, Informative)

dcgaber (473400) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633007)

I am not sure if this is a troll, but will respond anyway.

There is MAME for Win-32. Requires DOS commands to run the ROMs, but there are also plenty of MAME frontends for windows that are very GUI and let you adjust all your settings and organize your ROMs and point and click to run a game.

Go here [mame.net] to get it, and look for the FAQ on finding frontends. I have used a few, and they vary. Forgot which I liked best.

Re:MAME for Windows? (1)

dcgaber (473400) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633108)

Ok, how my comment that was possibly responding to a troll with usefull info got modded by anyone as a troll itself is beyond me. I guess I am new here.

Re:MAME for Windows? (1)

vasqzr (619165) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633016)


You sound like a troll but...

MAME32 [classicgaming.com] is what you're looking for.

Re:MAME for Windows? (3, Informative)

Comsn (686413) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633032)

a search on google for "windows mame" returns MAME32, a beautiful windows port of mame.

http://www.classicgaming.com/mame32/ [classicgaming.com]

Re:MAME for Windows? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633212)

The great thing about operating systems like Linux is that it, by design, keeps out low IQ users.

Neat, eh?

Also supports other phones (5, Informative)

rjbrown99 (144423) | more than 10 years ago | (#7632977)

You guys bashing the N-Gage are missing the point. I have a Nokia Series 60 3650 phone. It's based on the same Symbian OS that the N-Gage uses. I can use this on my phone. The 3650 is very widely deployed in the US and Europe. This is a great thing not just for the N-Gage folks, but regular guys like me who happen to own one of the Series 60 phones.

I can't wait to try it. My phone has a 128mb MMC that can store a ton of games. Should be a lot of fun.

Re:Also supports other phones (1)

sysopd (617656) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633099)

They may be missing the point, but it looks like you are too. The 3650 is only slightly trumped by the N-Gage in uglitude [nokia.com] . What with its giant gaudy (and incorrect) imitation of a rotary dial.

But in all seriousness, this is good news since the 7650 [nokia.com] (same series 60 symbian OS) is a really cool [ixbt.com] looking and small [ixbt.com] phone and would benefit from this as well.

Re:Also supports other phones (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633137)

Hmm, the 3650 is ugly, but the 7650 doesn't seem much better...must be a matter of personal taste.

I wonder if there are people who like the design of the N-Gage?

Re:Also supports other phones (2, Interesting)

rjbrown99 (144423) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633168)

It may be ugly, but it has a great OS, has expandable storage (which the 7650 does not), and has excellent bluetooth support. I can get online with my laptop via Bluetooth and GPRS. It's about the speed of a 33.6k modem, but hey I can be in the car or on a train when I use it. For the US, that's pretty impressive! :)

To me, the expandable storage is the key. With that feature, you can play movies, install tons of applications, and have a lot of games to play.

Round keys suck no doubt, but you can't knock the features of the phone.

Re:Also supports other phones (1)

sysopd (617656) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633425)

I'm not knocking anything but its size/look and physical interface, which are the two items I deal with most frequently. I want a phone I can place in any pocket and use without looking at the buttons or re-learning the key layout.

You made some great points, the expandable storage is great.

Apparently there have been enough complaints about the 3650's terrible physical layout that they're releasing a model without the imitation rotary keypad. I can't remember what model, something like 3652.

Re:Also supports other phones (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633549)

too bad 7650 sucks otherwise..
why? no mmc slot.

series60 phones rock though.. but with 7650's miniscule memory for apps/pics/data it doesn't get to far.

personally i love my 3650(the 'stupid rotary dial' is really good actually.. the buttons are far enough from each other.. makes thumbing it a lot easier for me)..

and if could find somebody who would be willing, i'd trade my 3650 to a ngage in an instant(because of the few benefits it does have over 3650, like the headphones, an controller that doesn't block itself, more heap memory). if anybody in the finland/tampere region wants to do this.. contact!

the series60 system is so much more than just a regular j2me enabled phone is(and they have the best j2me support out there as well). the reason why ngage is intresting is because it is the cheapest series60 phone out there.

and quite frankly.. i'm not on planning removing the mmc card from it's slot if i'm not changing to a bigger one.

and as the last point.. to the taco bashers.. how about you try to speaking with it? it's not that bad(but bashing it sure gets a lot of karma!).

Re:Also supports other phones (1)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633304)

"You guys bashing the N-Gage are missing the point."

Though your point is interesting, nobody's missing the point. It's a horrible game machine.

Re:Also supports other phones (1)

malfunct (120790) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633531)

I think what he was saying is that the fact that it runs on the n-gage may not be that exciting but that having mame for the model of phone mentioned is much cooler.

MAME is cool but... (1, Insightful)

obsequious23 (702321) | more than 10 years ago | (#7632983)

This makes MAME the only cool thing that the NGage does that I'd be interested in. $199 for a portable MAME isn't worth it.

i wonder... (5, Funny)

simcop2387 (703011) | more than 10 years ago | (#7632990)

... how long it will be before Mame can emulate N-Gage Games, then it'd only be a matter of time before it could emulate itself!

Re:i wonder... (2, Funny)

Dark Paladin (116525) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633116)

No! Whatever we do, we can not let such a piece of software exist! The creation of a singularity in software would make black hole that could destroy all life on this planet as we know it!

Or, barring that, open up a whole to an alternate dimension where the N-Gage doesn't make you look like you've got a metal taco sticking out the side of your head.

/. broken? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7632999)

was getting connection refused messages for the last 5-10 minutes or so...

So does... (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633003)

So since it's been found many n-gage games, including Sonic-N, can be run on other smartphones, such as the Symbian, without any modification, does that mean other smartphones can now run mame too?

Re:So does... (2, Informative)

albat0r (526414) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633249)

many n-gage games, including Sonic-N, can be run on other smartphones, such as the Symbian
First of all, Symbian isn't "another smartphone", it's an OS. Second, there's a lot of smartphones that use Symbian OS, and one of them is the Nokia N-Gage. Other Symbian OS phones include the SonyEricsson P800, Nokia 3650, BenQ P30, Motorola A920, Sendo X Smartphone, etc.So, if a game is able to run on the Nokia N-Gage, for sure it runs on Symbian OS! (but probably not all devices running Symbian OS...)

Re:So does... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633392)

thrid, your a fucking fucktard who cant speel or use html right, asspkpug!

Re:So does... (2, Informative)

TonkaTown (186808) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633295)

A little clarification on this.

Many N-Gage games will work on other Symbian Series 60 smartphones (such as the 7650, 3650, 6600, Siemens SX1, Sendo X), no big surprise really, as the N-Gage is a member of the series 60 family of devices. [symbian.com]

There's an interesting article on MAME and other games on Symbian devices on Mobitopia [mobitopia.com]

what about multiplayer? (3, Funny)

Comsn (686413) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633006)

does mame on n-gage support multiplayer? finally! pong! head to head!

Re:what about multiplayer? (-1)

Fecal Troll Matter (445929) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633026)

WTF is pong?

Re:what about multiplayer? (2, Informative)

AndyBusch (160585) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633086)

Actually, MAME no longer supports Pong. Pong didn't run in a ROM-style architecture. So, when it emulated Pong, it was all in the source code, which means they were distributing a game internally to the code, which went against the spirit of MAME, so it was removed from the code somewhere around .55.

Re:what about multiplayer? (1)

Cutriss (262920) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633307)

The argument was about whether it was being emulated or simulated, and in this case, it was the latter. I remember when they yanked it.

On the other hand, it appears to be back in.

I don't use MAME32 anymore, but I did recently get an Xbox and MAMEoX 0.76b1, and it comes with Pong. Falz and Noodle basically just wrap the existing MAME cores without any modifications unless needed for compatibility/performance (see the MK2/3 debate), so I doubt they added this on their own.

Generic MAME question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633010)

Does anybody have any good resources on building / obtaining a full size MAME machine, either with a used arcade cabinet or a home built one? Plus something with a parts list, etc? I have looked on the web, but keep finding instructions you have to pay for. Anyone have a good link or something?

Re:Generic MAME question (1, Informative)

Big_Ass_Spork (446856) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633125)

Sure... on taco's site: http://cmdrtaco.net/cabinet/ [cmdrtaco.net] .

Bah! (4, Funny)

musingmelpomene (703985) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633012)

You kids and your fancy game systems.

My Vectrex works perfectly fine for me.

But I would like to get one of those Nintendo things. I hear there's a game on there about some plumber that jumps on turtles and stuff to save a princess. That sounds pretty high-tech!

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go back to playing Star Trek: The Motion Picture: The Game. You suckers with your Playstations don't know what you're missing!

Re:Bah! (2, Informative)

GoRK (10018) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633182)

Man, the Star Trek vectrex game was horrible even by Vectrex standards.. It was just an endless shoot-em-up space game and it had nothing to do with Star Treck except that they were both set in space.

The Vectrex could draw text on the screen. They should have at least pretended to add a bit of a plot (one line of text would have improved the game 10000%!

Re:Bah! (1)

musingmelpomene (703985) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633282)

Agreed - but you do have to respect the only game in history to have two colons in the title.

I loved Spike, too. Gotta love that canned speech.

EEK! HELP! SPIKE!

OH NO! MOLLY!

doo-DOO, doo-doodoo-doo-doo-DOO...

HAHAHAHAHA! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633367)

Vectrex GOATSE! [hivebalur.net]

Re:Bah! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633221)

oh man I forgot about that game!

I'm digging mine out tonight!

Can't miss an opportunity... (3, Funny)

gklinger (571901) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633030)

Forget MAME, get SideTalkin'! [sidetalkin.com]

Such a bad idea (0, Flamebait)

wizarddc (105860) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633035)

Didn't these developers understand how bad of an idea this would be? No one should be giving anyone any reason to be buying these horrible chunks of plastic. Now there's gonna be at least 50 people who love mame so much they'd buy an NGage just to port it. The people at Nokia should burn in hell for even creating such a hellish product, and shouldn't be rewarded in the slightest for it.

Grammar Nazi AC (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633036)

Is the Nokia N-Gage a person? No? Then it's 'for which' not 'for whom.' I know you think using the word 'whom' makes you seem smart, gut you're wrong.

WOOHOO! (1)

ActionPlant (721843) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633063)

Yaaaaaaay! Just what we need...more options to distract drivers! I just can't WAIT to get hit by someone scrolling through a list of games trying to figure out what to play while they drive!

Damon,

Re:WOOHOO! (1)

jonathan_the_ninja (704301) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633090)

And then, they'll have the person they crashed and the IDSA trying to sue their pants off!

Anyone who would... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633323)

Be smart enough to download and enable Mame (let alone know what it is) as well as be able to find the ROMS would not try driving and play the damned thing. To angry to be sarcasm I think...

Nice English (1, Insightful)

Craig Davison (37723) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633066)

"The Nokia N-Gage has now joined the club of consoles for whom the excellent MAME (Multi Arcade Machine Emulator) was ported to."

What the fuck is that all about? Seems like the poster tried real hard to avoid ending the system in a preposition, and then did anyway. Also, since when is a game console a 'who'?

Bah.

The N-Gage has one winning feature... (5, Informative)

heironymouscoward (683461) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633071)

It is the only tax-deductible gaming system.

Seriously... in European high-tax countries this means that the state gives a discount of 40-50% on the item (plus VAT back!).

Even grown men like to play games now and then. And the N-Gage is surprisingly snappy, not like playing Java games on other GSMs, which is slow and boring.

MAME on N-Gage is a great addition, Nokia should try to license these arcade games since many of their potential clients (men aged 30+) are probably more familiar with some of them than with the "real" games actually available on the thing.

Re:The N-Gage has one winning feature... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633320)

in European high-tax countries

If you add what amerians pay for HEALTH CARE to what they pay in taxes, you'll find they actually pay the most taxes on earth...
in these other 'hightax' nations, they get HEALTH CARE for free.. get it? shhhhhhss dont tell the americans, they like to look down at europe/canada for being stopid commies with payin high taxes to their gumint. twits.

How Long... (2, Interesting)

da3dAlus (20553) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633089)

Until Nokia sues somebody for this? I'm sure they'll say that their product was hacked, even though it might actually add some value to that PoS. Maybe people will actually buy one just to run MAME......naah...

They won't (3, Informative)

ColourlessGreenIdeas (711076) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633276)

The NGage is an open system, so anyone can write games for it. That's why it costs so much*; Nokia has already got enough profit when you buy the device and they don't care if you never buy an official game. The hack simply means that cartrige games can be pirated and run on other Series 60 phones. It's always been the case that anyone can go out and write software for the NGage without paying Nokia a penny. (There's a special games SDK that comes with some games libraries or somesuch that costs money, but this won't use it)
*Actually, it's now available for free with a contract here in the UK, but the network is subsidising that, not Nokia.

Re:How Long... (1)

albat0r (526414) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633309)

Why do you say that the N-Gage was hacked? The N-Gage run Symbian OS and Symbian OS allow you to install what you want on it, and it support Java and CPP, so you should be able to run whatever you want, including a MAME port.

MAME is great but.... (1, Interesting)

crush (19364) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633095)

how the hell do you get games for it? The whole dk.mame website had to take down ROM images because of copyright threats.

Re:MAME is great but.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633153)

Kazaa is your friend. Type MAME into search everything, and see what comes up.

Re:MAME is great but.... (2, Informative)

Echnin (607099) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633348)

Ever heard of eMule?

Here are a few games for you. [sharereactor.com]

Site is VERY slow, but obviously as soon as you get the links in your client, you'll enjoy P2P and stuff.

Alternatively, you can download from Suprnova [novasearch.net] with BitTorrent.

So there you have it! Have fun buying memory cards if you want to bring all those games with you at once.

Re:MAME is great but.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633443)

Why dont you try freenet. They are definately out there.

Re:MAME is great but.... (2, Informative)

kidgenius (704962) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633369)

or, for the cost of media, u can get the roms from theFreeMameRoms [freemameroms.com] project.

Who owns an N-Gage? 400,000 and rising you idiots! (-1, Flamebait)

FRAKK2 (166082) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633154)

About 400,000 thousand people at least who got them
free with there mobile contracts, well at least in
europe they did.

What kind of moron would go into a store and buy
them at the full retail price, you'd have to be
a complete fuckwit!!!.

Get it through yor fucking skulls, its sold mostly
by the mobile companies, not fucking game stores you
fuckwits...Jesus... get a clue poeple!!!

X-Men anyone? (1)

Ty_Webb (729466) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633187)

I can just see the Nokia ad now:
*picture of a crater*
This is where I used my MUTANT POWER
(And yes, Colossus was my favorite character)
N-Gage: +1 Coolness

The Icon for this topic (1)

ufpdom (556704) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633219)

Isnt that an X-arcade joystick? Does /. have permission to use that? :)

Sidetalkin' (1)

Aaron England (681534) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633397)

Its so cool, everyone is imitating it. [sidetalkin.com]

is sound playable? (1)

otis wildflower (4889) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633403)

last time I tried mame on my P800, it was absolutely unplayable when sound was turned on, but with sound off it was pretty solid.

Not Another One (4, Funny)

nathanh (1214) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633455)

What hasn't MAME been ported to? Wouldn't it be easier to just have articles listing the rare mobile phones and cameras without MAME? I can just imagine a future article...

MAME Not Ported To Enigma Machine
mame-maimed-in-spain department 2006-01-04

In news that has shocked the MAME community, a project to port MAME to the 1940s Engima machine - used for encryption and decryption by the German forces during WW2 - was cancelled yesterday due to lack of interest.

Miguel De Mameiza said "We were halfway through the port when we just decided to stop. We already have MAME ported and running on buildings, phones, cameras, watches, books, elephants, asteroids in the deepest part of the Kepler belt. We looked at each other and said 'OK, enough is enough, let's stop there'. We unanimously agreed that MAME is pretty much everywhere it needs to be; we don't need it ported to what is essentially an advanced mechanical typewriter."

The gaming community had mixed reactions to the news. "I'm really glad they stopped" said one gamer. "MAME is everywhere. It's more pervasive than the SoFreakingBig virus." [Ed: referring to the Windows virus that crippled international commerce in 2005 when it managed to infect 140% of all Windows computers, an intrusion level that still baffles mathematicians] "Yesterday I bought a loaf of bread from the store and some bastard had ported MAME to the RFID tag. It's really weird to have your shopping basket bleeping Pacman music while you're waiting in line. And the checkout chick gave me the oddest look when I asked for my change in quarters."

But others were angry at the decision. One MAME enthusiast maliciously commented "bleep bleep bleep bwowowowow" and then disappeared in an explosion of pixels. The journalist unfortunately had no change so could not ask for clarification.

Sigh... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633467)

Just because you do not like the N-Gage.. Doesn't mean your opinion is worth more than anyone elses...

I like the N-Gage. I like it because there are tons of games for it. I like it because I can watch South Park on it encoded with Real. I like it because I can use it to monitor my servers at work.

So while you people go on about the shape of it, you seem to forget that there is a large group of people that don't buy iPods because it is cool and buy something that is functional and suitable for a variaty of tasks.

BTW, the Gameboy looks like crap compared to the games on the N-Gage. I don't care what you say, there is no comparison. I don't care what reviewers say, the system is great. Just simply take the time to look at one yourself.

Then express your opinions. The store nearby got 14 at launch and had 2 left after 2 weeks of them being sold and you haters spouting at the mouth.

which phones can use this? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633479)

I'm about to change carriers (probably to ATT) thanks to number portability. Any idea which phone models can run MAME at a suitable speed?

Galaga on my phone? YEEEES! (1)

spoco2 (322835) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633503)

Oh man, that is cool... sure, the NGage isn't... it's ugly as sin (Exactly how ugly is sin anyway? Surely there are some pretty darn attractive sins? Lust for example... man, that can be a darn puurty sin).

But this is for any phone using the same base operating system, so in effect it runs on others already (as shown in the article), and more in the future... maybe even phones that... wait for it... look like phones!

When the contract on my current phone runs out (in around 10 months I think), there is bound to be a phone that's nice and cheap running the operating system... and SNAP, I shalst have it, and I shalst have Galaga, 1942 and pacman on my phone.

And I shall be happy.

And I shall forget that the actual reason for having the phone is to take and make calls... but I shan't care, for I shall have 1980 arcady goodness in my pocket (Insert lewd references to pockets and joysticks here).

Ahhhhh.

MAME - greatest thing... ever? (2, Interesting)

strictnein (318940) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633526)

Given a choice between MAME and any other invention (even sliced bread!) I would nominate MAME as the greatest thing ever.

I love my MAME cabinet. Support up to 4 players on thousands of games. It's just great. My latest obsession is now NBA Jam TE (which I have determined that the CPU players cheat like crazy). Before that it was Street Fighter Alpha 2.

Yeah, it's illegal (except for NBA JAM TE for me, I own the ROM =), but you show me someplace I can go and pay to play all of those games and I'll be there. I know it will never happen, but as I've stated before, if I could buy a license for my MAME cabinet I would. I would gladly pay $300 - $400, maybe even more. Hell, how about a monthly fee, I don't care. And it's not like I didn't spend 10 years of my life plugging all the money I had into arcade machines anyways.

The MAME scene might start running into a little more trouble soon now that they're getting close to emulating some of the newer, still commercialy viable games (Tekken 2 works, but is choppy and without sound, Tekken 3 and Tekken Tag are almost there, along with a number of other pretty new games like Blitz 99, Wayne Gretzky's 3D Hockey, Mace: The Dark Age, CarnEvil and San Francisco Rush).

Re:MAME - greatest thing... ever? (1)

strictnein (318940) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633557)

(I know, I'm cool responding to my own post)

Didn't even notice this either, the controller they show for the MAME stories is the one I currently use and really really recommend. Bought two of them. Check it out at http://www.x-arcade.com/
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