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TunA and Socializing via MP3 Player

CmdrTaco posted more than 10 years ago | from the do-you-hear-what-i-hear dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "Wired is carrying a story about a new program in development called TunA. It will allow you to view other users playlists on their MP3 Player and also stream the music to your Player. Works through WiFi so it limits to mostly laptops for now. "

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proximity sharing (5, Informative)

tobes (302057) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633408)

I think it's a great idea to be able to see what other people in your proximity are listening too. It really does bring a super-social aspect (as in you wouldn't be able to do it without technology) into the music experience. I definitely think that there is room for a non-proximity based playlist sharing mechanisim though. Of course, I'm extremely biased because that's exactly what my site does, but it seems to me that if you wanted to find out about new music that you would need a much larger sample set than "the people in my general vicinity".

That being said, being able to sample the music in another persons collection is totally sweet. It's nice that they don't have to deal with the RIAA since the program would presumably work withougt a central server.

Re:proximity sharing (5, Funny)

1ns4n3c4rb0nb4s3dl1f (729658) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633458)

I think it's a great idea to be able to see what other people in your proximity are listening too

Until you chance upon me while I'm listening to KMFDM and you realize that there are some things you never wanted to hear. Then you spend the next hour trying to forget the experience.

Re:proximity sharing (1)

notque (636838) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633483)

Until you chance upon me while I'm listening to KMFDM and you realize that there are some things you never wanted to hear. Then you spend the next hour trying to forget the experience.

Who wouldn't want to hear KMFDM, and furthermore why would they be frightening at all?

Re:proximity sharing (1)

1ns4n3c4rb0nb4s3dl1f (729658) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633524)

Who wouldn't want to hear KMFDM, and furthermore why would they be frightening at all?

Well, you and I would survive, but when we hit a britney spears fan, it would be like a matter/anti-matter collision - the KMFDM would throw them out of balance, and the britney spears... ooh, the pain. I can't even think about it, it's so horrific.

Re:proximity sharing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633757)

But KMFDM and Britney Spears have something in common.

They both suck ass.

KMFDM Sucks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633551)

No doubt about it, KMFDM Sucks.

Re:KMFDM Sucks (0)

Wehesheit (555256) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633824)

everything else is completely inane

Re:KMFDM Sucks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7636406)

Give it up Picard

Re:proximity sharing (1)

cens0r (655208) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633580)

I haven't listened to them since i was young and full of teen angst. I just found out though that sascha lives here in seattle, on queen anne hill. I bet his neighbors get a kick out of him.

Re:proximity sharing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633949)

WTF, *I* live on Queen Anne Hill. Where does Sascha live?

Re:proximity sharing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633700)

Huh? KMFDM isn't bad at all.

Re:proximity sharing (1)

serial frame (236591) | more than 10 years ago | (#7635594)

KMFDM's the ultimate sound, and a message from Satan if you turn it around--That's the best explanation I can come up with for what you say.

Re:proximity sharing (1)

glenstar (569572) | more than 10 years ago | (#7635776)

Until you chance upon me while I'm listening to KMFDM and you realize that there are some things you never wanted to hear. Then you spend the next hour trying to forget the experience.

Especially if you're listening to Adios. Ah... the putrid stench of losing half your band.

TunA Sounds Like A WMD: +1, Patriotic (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633494)

Only from the BushCo Regime:

Whisky of Mass Destruction - how the US spied on a
tiny island distillery

JIM MCBETH
jmcbeth@scotsman.com

IN THE wavering image of a webcam, the figures
moved with the sinister intent of those whose mission
is mayhem. Thank heavens "Ursula" was watching ...

If the slightest possibility exists that Bruichladdich
distillery on Islay is a threat to world peace, we need
to know.

For it has been revealed that Ursula, a spy with the US
Defence Threat Reduction Agency - "Our mission to
safeguard the US and its allies from weapons of mass
destruction" - has been monitoring the island
distillery.

Apparently, it takes just a "tweak" - her words - in the
process of making whisky and Bruichladdich could be
churning out chemical weapons.

And, naturally, Mark Reynier, the managing director
of the Port Charlotte distillery, found out that he was
being spied on only when the Americans admitted it.

"Consider the most surreal scenario imaginable," he
said.

"We install webcams to show the world our whisky is
distilled traditionally. The US government apparently
lock on to the web images, which they think look
dodgy, but we, in Islay, dona(TM)t know that yet.

"We get an e-mail from aUrsulaa(TM) informing us one of
our webcams is faulty.

"We reply, thanking her and inquire who she is.

"She admits shea(TM)s a spy, monitoring sites that
potentially produce WMD. Whata(TM)s the expression?
Only in America!

"Ita(TM)s hilarious," he admitted. "Mind you, wea(TM)re a
sinister- looking bunch, so I can see how we might be
mistaken for al-Qaeda."

The US admitted watching the distilling process
because it is similar to the manufacture of chemical
weapons.

Mr Reynier said: "The original e-mail didna(TM)t say who
it was from, but my reply elicited another reply and it
had the name of the Defence Threat Reduction Agency
(DTRA) on it.

"I thought, aWhat the hell?a(TM) I wrote back and all was
revealed. We were on a ahot lista(TM)." Then with the
astonishing innocence of the American, Ursula
revealed that she worked for the department dealing
with the implementation of the Chemical Weapons
Convention.

Her e-mail read: "I work at the Defence Threat
Reduction Agency. Our mission is to safeguard the US
and its allies from weapons of mass destruction
(chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear and high
explosives).

"Our area deals with the implementation of the
Chemical Weapons Convention, so we go to sites to
verify treaty compliance.

"I still find it very funny that their chemical processes
look very similar to your distilling process.

"It just goes to show how atweaksa(TM) to the process can
create something very pleasant (whisky) or deadly
(chemical weapons)."

Once "outed", Ursulaa(TM)s bosses at the DTRA were
quick to point out that they do not consider
Bruichladdich to be a threat to world peace.

A spokesman said: "I am fairly certain that monitoring
Scottish distilleries and checking webcams from time
to time is not high on our list of missions.

"We all know about this day and age, when you can go
to chemical-processing plants and somebody with
another intent can take that equipment and create
something that is not intended to be there.

"The United States is part of the Chemical Weapons
Convention. That includes monitoring and visiting
commercial facilities where they would be able to
make chemical weapons."

Mr Reynier added: "We produce 16,000 cases a year, a
weapon of mass drunkenness."

SEASON'S GREETINGS (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633506)

***********

Season's Greetings from All of Us! [americangreetings.com]

***********

Re:proximity sharing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7634207)

I think it's a great idea to be able to see what other people in your proximity are listening too.

In my day, we called it a boom box. Some even called it a ghetto blaster. It seems like the 80's will back soon! [pocketcalculatorshow.com]

Yes, but... (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633412)

Does it play ogg?

Re:Yes, but... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633473)

We need a ".ogg is dying" troll.

Re:Yes, but... (1)

wed128 (722152) | more than 10 years ago | (#7635051)

how was this modded funny? i, for one, will not buy a digital music player unless it plays ogg, as my entire collection is encoded that way...

You want OGG support? You shall have it! (1)

DigiShaman (671371) | more than 10 years ago | (#7635115)

There is an "I-Pod" like MP3 player from a company called iRiver. It's the iHP-120. Personally, I own the iFP-390 but it lacks Ogg support....for now. If the hardware can handle it, there might be a firmware upgrade soon to support that file format. Check out the iHP-120 here

http://www.iriveramerica.com/products/iHP-120.as p

Re:You want OGG support? You shall have it! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7635168)

The Rio Karma also now plays Ogg (and FLAC too I think), so it's on my Christmas list.

I have heard of this. (5, Funny)

rf600r (236081) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633415)

My people call it "iTunes."

I read the article (4, Funny)

notque (636838) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633432)

My people call it "iTunes."

That's sooooo two weeks ago.

Re:I read the article (1)

ryanw (131814) | more than 10 years ago | (#7634030)

My people call it "iTunes."
No doubt, why don't they just integrate rendezvous [apple.com] into Winamp or make a plugin [winamp.com] ?

Re:I have heard of this. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7634434)

why do you call the gay community "My"? you don't own it, you're merly a member.

Re:I have heard of this. (1)

Phroggy (441) | more than 10 years ago | (#7635335)

That was my first thought too, but this is a different concept than the music sharing feature of iTunes 4: with iTunes, you get access to my entire music library and can pick and choose what you'd like to listen to; with TunA, it's as if I unplugged my headphones to let you listen with me.

G to the oatse (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633416)

.C to the izzeX

Gay (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633419)

Gay

Re:Gay (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7635304)

Gay.

Totally gay.

Liberace gay.

How is a program like a fish? (4, Funny)

da3dAlus (20553) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633424)

You can TunA program but you can't...oh nevermind....

Re:How is a program like a fish? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7634100)

I fucked your whore grandmother to death.

But you CAN tuna fish. (1)

Ungrounded Lightning (62228) | more than 10 years ago | (#7634321)

You can TunA program but you can't...oh nevermind....

But you CAN tuna fish. In little bitty cans.

::cough:: (2, Insightful)

mrpuffypants (444598) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633437)

ahem....

----> Rendezvous [apple.com]

and

----> iTunes Music Sharing [apple.com]

Wow theres a world OUTSIDE of apple? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633562)

You mean apple isn't the ONLY one with an mp3 player? Fuck off zealot.

and (2, Interesting)

SweetAndSourJesus (555410) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633564)

Howl [swampwolf.com] and daapd [deleet.de] for those that would like to serve from a Linux/BSD box.

The difference.... (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633590)

The difference is that iTunes lets you pick what music you want to listen to from the other guy's collection, while tunA lets you listen to what the other guy is listening to *right now*. You get a copy of his stream, instead of your very own stream.

At least that's my understanding.

Re:The difference.... (1)

kommakazi (610098) | more than 10 years ago | (#7634862)

Isn't that what instant messaging was invented for?

Uh, no.. (4, Insightful)

Lysol (11150) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633723)

Not the same at all. Specifically for the fact that it's meant as a 'social Walkman' and, as we all know, Walkman's are portable. iTunes is not and, no, a 12" Powerbook is not the portable I'm talking about. The iPod is portable, but lacks Wi-Fi and the varying operating system features TunA requires. This is meant strictly for palm computers, of which, a version of iTunes does not (will never?) exist.

I just submitted this story a few hours ago. Rejected once again..

Re:Uh, no.. (1)

KReilly (660988) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633970)

Sounds to me like something they can pop into the next upgrade of iPod. Only issue to look into is power consumption with streaming it constantly. In all honesty I understand that the portability is supposed to be useful, but there are usually not alot of places that I frequent that people have equipment good enough to stream this stuff.
Maybe in a few years when enough people are carying handhelds with wi-fi tunA will be a useful program. And by that time, I trust the iPod will have wi-fi.
But the point is that until the future, this is not a useful feature, and iTunes is. iTunes is having the same functionality that works on technology that everyone has.
Thats why iTunes is in the headlines and I bet that nobody will hear about tunA for a long time.

hell (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7634510)

a version of iTunes does not (will never?) exist.

Not until hell freezes over [apple.com] ... again.

Re:::cough:: (2, Interesting)

razberry636 (601469) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633907)

Indeed.

Since iTunes started adding the ability to "share" music, I've come in contact with a few more Mac people on campus. Most people here at $my_school show their email address instead of listing their music under "Jason's Music" (the default). This gives us the ability to contact one another to say "Hey, nice music!" or something like that.

Right now I'm listening to Bryan Ferry who I haven't heard in a long time from a student from France.

One other observation that I'll throw out is that since Apple released iTunes for Windows, there hasn't been an increase in the number of people sharing music, but there's about 3 times as many people listening to my music.

Okay, in the time it took me to write this (and preview), the Bryan Ferry song ended and now I'm listening to something in french that I don't understand, but it's still interesting.

Re:::cough:: (1)

kommakazi (610098) | more than 10 years ago | (#7634891)

So what you're saying is that Windows users are moochers?

Rendezvous for dummies: (2, Informative)

mindstrm (20013) | more than 10 years ago | (#7634692)

Rendezvous doesn't enable streaming, just service discovery. It's used so itunes instances can find each other, but that's all.

Rendezvous is basically an adaptation of DNS.. (but please, realize that doens't mean it replaces "the" DNS system we use.)

They took DNS, adapted it to work over multicast, and that's about it.. and use it as a heirarchial, distirubted method of publishing services, and other information. IF you want to know what's out there, you send a query not to a DNS server, but to a multicast address (a link-local address in this case, so it's confined to your local network by convention). All those listening mDNS servers (like every Mac in the room, or any linux machine runinng mDNS) will respond to the query via unicast (I think... haven't read it in that much detail yet.)

Works for hostnames too, if your resolver supports it. (macs again).

Of note is that it's a very open standard, and it's a cakewalk for linux or anyone else to support it as well.

Interesting Concept (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633451)

I'm currently working on my thesis for my masters in psychology and this is a very innovative technology.

In interviews that I conducted with several hundred subjects, I've found that the alarming trend that the introduction of new technology causes us to be more separate socially. We've seen it with office staff sending e-mail to individuals just a few cubicles away.

Another expirement I'm currently conducting is to provide negative feedback to individuals who choose to use their cell phone to communicate with their friends instead of dropping by at their apartment. A good example of positive behavior would be the group in "Friends", while a negative example would the person from the Verizon commercial.

Mods on codeine (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633587)

I was refering to the aspect that we have to resort to a small music device to interact socially with strangers. Why would that be off-topic?

NOPE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633715)

This is offtopic 100%. Reason too GAY!!!

Re:Interesting Concept (1)

Phroggy (441) | more than 10 years ago | (#7635324)

In interviews that I conducted with several hundred subjects, I've found that the alarming trend that the introduction of new technology causes us to be more separate socially. We've seen it with office staff sending e-mail to individuals just a few cubicles away.

I've found that technology can cause us to be more separate physically, while allowing us to come together socially. I might chat online with a coworker a few cubicles away, but if I couldn't do that, I wouldn't be able to chat with them at all, because we're both busy working.

Interesting way to screw the RIAA (5, Interesting)

TWX (665546) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633456)

If an actual file synchronizing/sharing utility were to grow out of this, it would really mess with the RIAA's attempts to punish filesharers. All that would have to happen for a physical level for added security would be MAC address and SSID spoofer, so that the real hardware addresses aren't recorded. Even if the RIAA were to attempt to set up monitoring machines in busy areas, it wouldn't be very effective if the information was spoofed.

Disclaimer: I don't think that artists should be ripped off. This is why I'm against the RIAA.

Re:Interesting way to screw the RIAA (1)

i_r_sensitive (697893) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633776)

I'm not so sure about that. As someone points out, the distribution is superficially similar to radio. Radio stations have to pay royalties for the music they play.

Actually, RIAA might even like this methodology. After all, they could lump the projected royalties due into the original cost of all music.

Now for the bit that get's me modded down for going offtopic...

Why the hell didn't RIAA just get in the game themselves? Too late now (one would assume) but after Napster, wouldn't it have been easier to beat iTunes Et. Al. to the punch? Hell I mean they could have knocked the bottom out of the entire issue with a few developers and a coherent plan...

Hell, they could have turned their worst enemies into their greatest asset. That being the large scale file sharers. Hell, these guys do a better job of distribution than the record stores. Gods! developers are cheaper than lawyers, and do better work! The biggest trick would be co-opting the filesharers, and IMHO, these folks aren't truly interested in the real issue, their interested in getting something for nothing. Greedy people, which encompasses both RIAA and the filesharers are the easiest to manipulate. I would suggest this is tied into a lack of imagination, since neither side in this little fracas has really displayed any capability of devising the ground shaking innovation.

Admitedly, this would do nothing for the artists, who, by the way, are the biggest victims of RIAA, not the consumers, but nothing that is being done now helps us either. Six of one, a half dozen of the other.

Re:Interesting way to screw the RIAA (1)

sylkwyrm (717904) | more than 10 years ago | (#7634130)

Wait! Are you suggesting the RIAA actually get off their arses and DO something besides sicking their lawyers on ppl? Your a business genius! Wonder why they never thought of that. *shrug*

Re:Interesting way to screw the RIAA (1)

TWX (665546) | more than 10 years ago | (#7634733)

I definitely agree with your assessment of the RIAA's dropping the ball.

If they had been smart, they would have flooded the filesharing networks with lower quality versions of the songs. This way, if people want the real thing, they'd have had to go buy it. Even as lossy as 128bit Fraunhauffer is, it's still more than adequate for most peoples' computer speakers. If they'd put 48bit mp3s out there, in such mass to make it difficult to find decent quality mp3s, then they'd have given people much more reason to use mp3s like shareware. People could still listen to a tune to see if they like it, and if so, buy it on CD. For that to work, the mp3s need to sound worse than radio quality though, and CDs need to be cheaper, which is an argument for another time anyway.

I can see it now.... (5, Funny)

nizo (81281) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633457)

Clicking on others' avatars lets you see whatever personal information or messages they want to share with the world.

I can hear the screams now, as I walk around with my own goatse.cx avatar on my player for all to see.

Re:I can see it now.... (4, Funny)

tedDancin (579948) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633629)

There's also instant-message capability, the possibility to change skins and a virtual stalking feature.

The only thing worse than a goatse.cx avatar is a goatse.cx stalker..

Re:I can see it now.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633784)

>>as I walk around with my own goatse.cx avatar on my player

Sorry, dude, but the RIAA can claim prior art on world's biggest A-holes, so presumably they get first dibs on the matching avatar.

just to get it out of the way (2, Funny)

Blublu (647618) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633465)

Mmmmmmmm, tuna...

like radio? (4, Insightful)

r84x (650348) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633472)

"I'm not sure that a device that would allow streaming but wouldn't allow you to copy would be very popular," he said.

So, I guess what he is saying is that radio is dying? People have listened to radio broadcasts of music for decades, and continue to, without being able to keep the music. What is different now?

Re:like radio? (1)

r84x (650348) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633541)

I know it is not good practice to reply to my own post, but after it got modded offtopic, I felt I needed to clarify. The "technology pundit" quoted in the article says that "I'm not sure that a device that would allow streaming but wouldn't allow you to copy would be very popular." The technology of radio is still flourishing now, and is a more social medium than, say, an iPod, and tunA seems to be along the same lines.

Re:like radio? (1)

Prep (26315) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633782)

"I'm not sure that a device that would allow streaming but wouldn't allow you to copy would be very popular," he said.

I think you're right. He missed the point entirely. The problem is that he can't even think about the possibillity of radio being improved, enhanced, or otherwise changed. The RIAA and all of it's members are stuck with the mindset that the world will continue to accept their outdated model for music distribution. Their playing catchup (to be honest their not even playing catchup... they're just not playing) to new music distribution methods like epitonic.com [epitonic.com] , napster.com, and others, and their doing everything in their power to stop or otherwise hinder more revolutionary distribution methods. It all comes down to the simple fact that the RIAA was created as a method to protect the artist's rights and distribute music. Right now, it's not doing either particularly well. Out with the old, in with the new. And I'm not just speaking of an easily breakable DRM scheme... a totally new concept of how to profit from music is needed. Free mp3's and expensive concerts? Free mp3's and bonus material for cd buyers? Whatever method the future holds, everyone already knows that the RIAA won't be in the picture.

Re:like radio? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7634139)

Funny, I've been able to copy anything on radio for decades....

You might not be smart enough to record off the radio but the other 98% of the population is.

Re:like radio? (1)

jtosburn (63943) | more than 10 years ago | (#7634754)

r84x: So, I guess what he is saying is that radio is dying? People have listened to radio broadcasts of music for decades, and continue to, without being able to keep the music. What is different now?

What's stopping me from keeping the music? (Besides the lame-excuse-for-music that is broadcast these days.) Reel-to-reel tape, then cassettes, have allowed that possibility for years. That was the original reason for voice over introductions, and fade-out overlaps, etc., wasn't it? To taint the recordings that the masses were making. Once upon a time a few rogue stations broadcast entire albums, only to have the RIAA clench their iron fist.

So there goes your point...

Re:like radio? (1)

kommakazi (610098) | more than 10 years ago | (#7634930)

You can copy radio easily with a tape recorder.

This is all good and well until... (1)

musingmelpomene (703985) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633480)

The RIAA could pretty easily start checking people's mp3 playlists. once they decide it's "too many" mp3's, watch them get a subpoena on your ass.

It's really not that much of a stretch. At least they'd know the people they were catching actually owned a computer/mp3 files.

Music networking (4, Insightful)

joekra (722518) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633492)

A more primitive take on this is DailyTunes.com [dailytunes.com]

where you can make song recommendations to others for itunes songs. A very cool concept.

World's oldest known penis. (-1)

Genghis Troll (158585) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633501)

A tiny fossil of a creature that lived some 425 million years ago has entered the record books as the oldest unequivocally male animal. The organism, which resembles a cross between a shrimp and a clam, sports a large penis which has been perfectly preserved in three dimensions.

David Siveter, professor of palaeontology at Leicester University, said there was no doubt the fossilised creature was a male, making it the oldest unambiguous member of its sex.

Professor Siveter said the fossil was found at a site in Herefordshire where soft body parts of ancient creatures have been perfectly preserved by being buried in volcanic ash before being rapidly mineralised within rocky nodules.

The animal, whose Latin name Colymbosathon ecplecticos means "swimmer with a large penis", is just 5mm (2/10ths of an inch) long and a member of a group of crustaceans known as the ostracods, crustaceans like crabs and lobsters and the most complex organisms studied within the field of micropalaeontology.

Three-dimensional images of the fossil, in the journal Science, were constructed by the scientists who carefully ground away layers of the rock while photographing polished cross-sections of the fossil as they went. One of the most intriguing aspects of the study was the discovery that the basic body plan of the 425 million-year-old ostracod looks essentially the same as the body plan of present-day ostracods, Professor Siveter said.

"The ground plan of the fossil strikingly resembles living groups of ostracods which shows the pace of evolutionary change has not been particularly fast," he said.

The copulatory organ of the fossilised male is "large and stout" which indicates that "maybe size mattered" for the ancient ostracods, he added.

"This is a male and there must have been females around. The discovery tells us something about the biology of reproduction; it provides unequivocal evidence for sex in an animal that lived in the Silurian age," he added.

In addition to the penis, the scientists were able to trace the animal's entire digestive tract from mouth to anus as well as study anatomical details such as its six pairs of gills and the limbs it used for sensing, feeding and swimming.

"The whole animal is amazing," Professor Siveter added. "We've got something we could only dream about before."

Great (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633504)

Now I don't have to strain myself trying to identify that tinny screeching sound coming from across the train.

You know the one - too loud to ignore, but just not loud enough to work out what the damn song is.

Great ... just great (5, Funny)

bryanzera (539455) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633512)

I get sick of hearing the buzzing of the trunk of the car with the huge fucking subwoofers that toddles down my street at the most bizzare hours of the day and night. I'm SICK of listening to other people's music. I think I'm going to stick with my walkman.

Re:Great ... just great (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633743)

Solution? 30-06. Or two.

Finally.. (1, Insightful)

msimm (580077) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633560)

P2P has socialized downloads like never before. Information need to be as fluid as conversation, technology has a (gasp, healthy!) social element that has been ignored for way too long.

Hrrmm.. (1, Insightful)

msimm (580077) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633678)

Kind of sucks that you can be modded down (or up) by someone, but they can't comment on your thread to tell you why.

What if you could do this with videos peole watch? (1)

leprasmurf (561814) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633567)

1. Debbie Does Dallas
2. Pamela and Tommy
3. Paris Hilton
4. Barney Sing-a-long
5. Seduction of Stacey

Re:What if you could do this with videos peole wat (1)

natefanaro (304646) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633687)

I call dibbs on Barney Sing-a-long!

Cupertino Strangler? (1)

burgburgburg (574866) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633573)

Since when has Jobs had this particular nom-de-guerre?

Re:Cupertino Strangler? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7634835)

A guy called Andrew Orlowski said it. He said it the other day here [theregister.co.uk] . And google says no-one else said it ever. A private joke, perhaps.

I can hear it now... (3, Funny)

mamer-retrogamer (556651) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633595)

RIAA to Smithers: "Release the hounds!"

-Mike

Streaming wifi via Shoutcast (2, Interesting)

mycroftxxxx (527501) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633606)

Along a similar idea, my Tungsten C [palmone.com] can stream mp3 stations from Shoutcast [shoutcast.com] with Pocket Tunes [pocket-tunes.com]
Not hifi wifi but it's wild to see in action the first time...

iTunes is now TunA? (1, Interesting)

conan_albrecht (446296) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633622)

I didn't realize iTunes had changed its name! :)

As a professor in a WiFi-enabled building, I've enjoyed sharing playlists with other iTunes users in the building for weeks now. Other than further loading the already-loaded 802.11b network, it's been a lot of fun.

Again, why is this news???

MC9 *Owns* iTunes (1)

meehawl (73285) | more than 10 years ago | (#7634554)

enjoyed sharing playlists with other iTunes users in the building for weeks now

As a J River Media Center User [musicex.com] , I've been enjoying sharing playlists, audio, and video streaming and transcoding for years now. Welcome to the party. Tell me when iTunes grows up a bit to the point where it can handle rich, varied media.

Re:MC9 *Owns* iTunes (1)

Carthag (643047) | more than 10 years ago | (#7635318)

rich, varied media

Er... Real? WMA? If you mean mp3, ogg, aac, wav, aiff, mov(sorenson, etc), snd, or au, it already handles them quite fine...

Personally, I could live without real and wma, no offense to anyone. Admitted, it does not handle mod or sid, but I couldn't see that MC9 does either.

Mine Eyes Have Seen The Coming (1)

meehawl (73285) | more than 10 years ago | (#7636076)

Video codecs my dear, video. Once I was blind but now I can see. It's a multimedia application. Ignoring the external codec API handler, how many formats does MC support OOTB? 80+ Here are some of them:

AAC AIFF AU AA APE AVI BMP BPL CDA DIVX GIF JPG MPL MID MPC MP3 M1V JMX OGG PNG MOV MP4 QT RAM RA RM SMIL RV SWF SHN WMA

Wifi Napster (1)

msgmonkey (599753) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633631)

If they could reduce the range/power requirements of Wifi how about MP3 players where you can share your files?

How about Wifi enabled billboards that transmit a sample of the song? Or entering a clubs or other places for that matter.

Yeah I know you're going to shout bluetooth, but it would be too slow at the time being.

Tuna? (1)

cens0r (655208) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633638)

I don't get it... is it fish or is it chicken?

Haha. (0, Flamebait)

sekzscripting (687192) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633641)

Dumb. It's called ITUNES.

My VAGINA smells like tuna (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633648)

Not all the time, but usually. I used let my bush grow free, and it smelled a lot like urine back then, but now I shave it all off, and it smells like tuna. About the only time it doesn't is about a week before my period.

is it chicken or tuna? (-1, Offtopic)

strapon (718616) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633657)

What did Spock find in the toilet?

Re:is it chicken or tuna? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633724)

The Captain's Log [goatse.cx]

caution (3, Funny)

Lord_Dweomer (648696) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633686)

A word of caution to fellow Slashdotters who may be more tech-savvy than female-savvy.

Do not, I repeat, DO NOT ask a woman with an mp3 player if she has TunA. Odds are you will be smacked, probably with the mp3 player too if its that time of the month.

Now you tell me... (1)

i_r_sensitive (697893) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633808)

Where the hell were you the first time I read the comments...

Addendum: If you must experiment with this yourself, DO NOT select the payroll/AP cleark!

Re:caution (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7634267)

Asking a chick if she has Tuna isn't a bad idea actually. The chicks who would take offense aren't you're type anyway.

The chick who answers, "No, but I have a clean pussy - Stinky Tuna is for chicks who don't douche", is the chick you want to marry.

Re:caution (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7634436)

You guys probably don't know this, but douching is a very unhealthy practice (sold by men) and is fact often the _cause_ behind the "fish smell"

Kathleen Fent, whore/slut, dead at some old age (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7633748)

I just heard some sad news on talk radio - popular whore and slut Kathleen Fent, was found dead in goatse's ass this morning. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss her - even if you didn't enjoy her free rimjobs and big teeth, there's no denying her contributions to my anus. Truly a Slashdot icon.

Just what I would want. (1)

blanks (108019) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633798)

To give access to anyone around me to view my music. Sure you can disable it, or only allow specific people to view them, but then you can all ready to do in many ways.

For the look of: (1)

i_r_sensitive (697893) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633840)

shock, horror, disbelief, amazement, nausea, on their fac... ...oh you meant your music...

To be marketed in Canada... (1)

quacking duck (607555) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633950)

... as Tun-Eh?

iTunes... (3, Interesting)

Phroggy (441) | more than 10 years ago | (#7633971)

This is a different concept than the music sharing feature of iTunes 4: with iTunes, you get access to my entire music library and can pick and choose what you'd like to listen to; with TunA, it's as if I unplugged my headphones to let you listen with me.

I don't see why it should be limited to a wireless connection; surely it uses a higher-level protocol such as IP or NetBEUI or IPX or something that works just as well on Ethernet?

One question I do have: will the playback be synchronized? Normally when you stream audio, it's buffered, so there's a delay. If two people are listening to the same thing, but it's out of sync by half a second, it'll drive both of them crazy...

Re:iTunes... (1)

BinaryJono (546830) | more than 10 years ago | (#7634429)

i highly doubt the playback will be synchronized. even when using RTP (Realtime Transport Protocol) and a low-latency network, perfect synchronization is not easy...especially with a wireless network with less throughput/lower signal strength/more users.

as most users would most likely be listening with headphones on their mobile devices (unless u pack up your speakers and generator wherever you go), you would hear a much more consistant, however not synchronized, audio stream using tcp.

Re:iTunes... (1)

serial frame (236591) | more than 10 years ago | (#7635830)

I've toyed with the idea of broadcasting streaming data over 802.x networks, with success, even--I devised and halfway implemented a low-level one-way transport protocol which sits right below the link layer. I've tested this both on 802.11b and on a nonswitched ethernet.

However, ven under similar operating environments, I can never get the audio to sync properly. Buffers seem to always fill at different times :)

Anyhow, a connectionless, one-way protocol would probably work best for this sort of thing.

Drunken Slut (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7634123)

Bad idea! (1)

fruity1983 (561851) | more than 10 years ago | (#7634727)

My MP3 player is where I listen to all the girly effeminate music I wouldn't let me people catch me alive listening to!

You can't take Tori Amos away from me!

Lenin's twitching corpse... (-1, Flamebait)

0x1337 (659448) | more than 10 years ago | (#7635019)

This is perchance one of the more retarded ideas I've heard. See - the reason why I chose to listen to xxyyzz on a portable mp3 player, instead of perching an 80's style boombox on my shoulder like Tyrone the Coke dealer - is because I don't WANT others to listen to my music. I _like_ my privacy.

Whats next? Will every dork that surrounds me wish to know what I had for dinner, and what color my underpants are?

WiFi != laptops only (1)

weiyuent (257436) | more than 10 years ago | (#7635650)

Works through WiFi so it limits to mostly laptops for now.

Though laptops usually come with WiFi and desktops usually without, WiFi is certainly available as PCI expansion cards.

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