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Kazaa-lite Shut Down

CmdrTaco posted more than 10 years ago | from the no-surprise-there dept.

Censorship 634

atari2600 writes "Finally it has happened. Zeropaid is reporting that the Kazaalite K++ project has been shutdown by Sharman Networks. The project, which had been set up to block spy and ad ware within the Kazaa Media Desktop Program has achieved notoriety within the P2p world through its simplistic approach and success in reverse engineering the Kazaa application."

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My wish (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7653483)

I wish there was a way for me, as a Christian, as a human being, to sit down with some of you and have a pleasant, civil discussion without bitterness or sarcasm. I don't force people to believe what I believe. I don't mock others with different beliefs. I hope I can find the words to explain myself, as my life goes on. I hope I can help people to see.

Re:My wish (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7653582)

I don't mock others with different beliefs.

I do, you Christian loser.

thats one way (5, Funny)

Zed2K (313037) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653485)

Well I guess thats one way to stop P2P usage. Destroy the only good kazaa client.

Re:thats one way (4, Informative)

42forty-two42 (532340) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653572)

What about giFT-fasttrack [berlios.de] ?

Re:DietK (5, Interesting)

p0rnking (255997) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653609)

At the bottom of one of the articles about K++'s shutdown, is a link for Diet K (http://www.dietk.com/).
Since the site doesn't really say too much about it, has anyone ever used it?

Thanks a lot, Sherman (1)

sageres (561626) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653493)

Wait until MPAA and RIAA shut you down now too...

Re:Thanks a lot, Sherman (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7653635)

They can stop P2P, but they can't stop good old sneakernet.

Was forbidden anyway (1, Interesting)

deja206 (711205) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653495)

P2P is forbidden in our campus anyway, not much has changed for me...

thats ok... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7653496)

sombody will just come up with something better to replace it. (they always do)
the king is dead, long live the king!

I DON'T CARE -- I BUY MUSIC LATELY (0, Flamebait)

Amsterdam Vallon (639622) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653497)

I've found that the time it takes to get good (192kbps+) versions of songs off of a complete album is much longer and expensive than simply shelling out 10 bucks for the CD at a music store.

So, I don't even use P2P anymore. I have no interest in movies or games or whatever, just music.

Unless your time is worth nothing, you should just buy the factory CDs anyway. Plus, you can show the artists you like (White Stripes, Strokes, Outkast) that you enjoy what they do.

Re:I DON'T CARE -- I BUY MUSIC LATELY (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7653533)

I pwnd your father

-Bill Cutting

Re:I DON'T CARE -- I BUY MUSIC LATELY (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7653534)

Those bands suck.

Re:I DON'T CARE -- I BUY MUSIC LATELY (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7653541)

Sorry, there are no convenient music outlets available in my bedroom, at 11.30 p.m, on a Sunday evening.

Re:I DON'T CARE -- I BUY MUSIC LATELY (5, Insightful)

NiKnight3 (532580) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653551)

Maybe except this one [apple.com] and this one [napster.com] and this one [buymusic.com] and this one [listen.com] and...

Re:I DON'T CARE -- I BUY MUSIC LATELY (-1, Troll)

Slashdot Junky (265039) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653562)

That doesn't make stealing okay! Walmart is open 24/7 in so many places; your area's store is probably one of them!

-Slashdot Junky

Re:I DON'T CARE -- I BUY MUSIC LATELY (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7653597)

Yeah but wal-mart only sells the 'clean' versions of songs.

Re:I DON'T CARE -- I BUY MUSIC LATELY (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7653555)

Plus, you can show the artists you like (White Stripes, Strokes, Outkast) that you enjoy what they do.

Judging by the "music" you listen to, I can't imagine why anything over 96kbps is even necessary.

Are you an RIAA spokesperson? (5, Insightful)

DrLudicrous (607375) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653559)

The problem with your argument is that most people don't want to download all the songs on an album- they only want a few. To download 2 or 3 good songs off of an album at high quality (192kbps+) still takes less time than it would to get in your car and drive to the store. And it is also infinitely cheaper.

And be it that it may that you are only interested in music, many other people do have other interests. I use kazaa k++ for perfectly legitimate reasons, such as finding beta patches to games or looking for humerous video clips.

Why should people "just buy the factory CDs anyway"? Most of them are crap. They are a waste of money. The RIAA has screwed itself with its own corporate greed by constantly promoting artists that are without talent. If I want to show the artists that I enjoy what they do, I will go to a live performance. Most artists are not seeing any substantial income from their CD sales- that gets eaten up by the record companies for a bunch of bullshit fees and promotion costs. Bands make their money from touring- and the RIAA now wants a bigger piece of that pie too.

Downloading is a preview for me... (1)

Denyer (717613) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653626)

...no previews, no sales. Whereas I hear mindless pop rubbish on the radio and know not to buy it, record companies have lost one avenue to sell their less well-known artists. Not that they ever cared to promote many of them in the first place, but they definitely got money from me as a result...

Re:Are you an RIAA spokesperson? (0, Redundant)

the_2nd_coming (444906) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653641)

the use iTMS.

Re:Are you an RIAA spokesperson? (5, Informative)

TwinkieStix (571736) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653672)

I work for a band merchandising company, and I can tell you that if you really want to give the band something for their work, buy their OFFICIAL merchandise. The merchandise linked to from their OFFICIAL web site. They get as much as 50% of the price you see on the screen, even if the merch company designed the logos and bought the materal to create it.

Re:I DON'T CARE -- I BUY MUSIC LATELY (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7653560)

I've found that the time it takes to get good (192kbps+) versions of songs off of a complete album is much longer and expensive than simply shelling out 10 bucks for the CD at a music store.

I can download a 600 meg movie from other people on campus in about 15 seconds. I have also found this time to be way too long for it to be worthwhile. So, I just let my roomates download it.

Re:I DON'T CARE -- I BUY MUSIC LATELY (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7653589)

Fuck off, Ekrout

Re:I DON'T CARE -- I BUY MUSIC LATELY (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7653599)

Trying to get a whole album in good quality off one of the p2p networks usually sucks, yes. But there aren't just p2p networks to get your stuff off the net :)

Re:I DON'T CARE -- I BUY MUSIC LATELY (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7653621)

I've found that the time it takes to get good (192kbps+) versions of songs off of a complete album is much longer and expensive than simply shelling out 10 bucks for the CD at a music store.

A complete album? Maybe. If you want the ENTIRE album then there is some justification for, well, buying it.

But I've never had any problems that people seem to gripe about. My downloads are seldom interrupted and the music I download is virtually always on par with what I ask for (i.e., if you download a 128 bit version, you get what you ask for, if you go for 320 it's going to sound better).

I've stopped buying CDs, period. My wife asked me a couple months ago if she could buy a CD (because she knows I have an issue with buying CDs now) because she said she liked most of the songs on the CD. I shrugglingly accepted (wife is more important than sticking it to the RIAA). We went to the store and she found that it didn't have as many songs as she thought and it cost $24. Without any pressure she said, "No, not worth it."

The only thing CDs are useful for is burning them. I don't see myself buying any more pre-recorded CDs. Besides, it's seldom that any new music comes out that I "have to have" anyway.

Re:I DON'T CARE -- I BUY MUSIC LATELY (0)

kevdaman (580143) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653629)

hey you mind telling me where i can get a 10 dollar CD? oh wait, thats right. they dont cost 10 bucks!

Re:I DON'T CARE -- I BUY MUSIC LATELY (2, Insightful)

gcaseye6677 (694805) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653644)

I would gladly pay $10 for a good CD (i.e. one that has more than 2 decent songs on it) by a band that I like. I think what people have a problem with is paying almost $20 for a CD with maybe 1 or 2 songs they actually want to hear. As much as I dislike Wal-Mart and Best Buy, these stores have been holding down the price of most new music.

The REAL tragady of P2P (5, Insightful)

Red Storm (4772) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653669)

What if the song you want is a special remix which isn't available in the stores? What if the album you want is from an artist who nobody sells and the label which origionaly released the song is not around anymore? Does going down to the store and shelling out $15 for a CD which cannot be purchased to support that artist hold water anymore? I feel this is the REAL tragady of P2P. Plus I live in the US, I happen to like Eurodance and other forms of music from Europe. However such music is not easy to find here especialy since CDNow was purchased by Amazon.

Everyone talks about getting their music for free and whatnot. For me P2P was all about discovering new music. When I was on Napster back in the day my CD purchasing budget was about $50-$100 a month! I was getting new songs which *I* liked, not what some marketing department wanted me to listen to. Also as I mentioned earler, what about preserving music which cannot be found leagaly? P2P makes for a great medium for this!

Damm u RIAA, Metalica and everyone else who was against P2P.

GiFT (5, Informative)

marcelC (592689) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653498)

Who cares, there ae enough GiFT frontends for both linux and windows available which will give you the same functionality.

A little ironic, don't you think? (5, Insightful)

Wigfield (730339) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653499)

Sharman shutting down K++ for copyright infringement? Isn't that what the RIAA is trying to do to Sharman... I know, I know, sharman doesn't actually host illegal files on their site, but it seems their entire business model revolves around copying music illegally.

Re:A little ironic, don't you think? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7653511)

But Kazaa Lite IS copyright infringement. It's like somebody taking the linux kernel, modifying it, and posting it without source. Not everything shared on kazaa is illegal.

Re:A little ironic, don't you think? (2, Insightful)

Wigfield (730339) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653549)

Not everything shared on kazaa is illegal.

Almost everything on kazaa is illegal. I challenge you to name the last time you saw something that was in the public domain or under a free license (GPL, FDL, BSD, etc.) If you pressure Sharman enough they will have to admit the main attraction of their program is to facilitate copyright infringement. Personally I don't like copyright as it stands one bit, but they are being rather hypocritical.

Re:A little ironic, don't you think? (4, Informative)

bconway (63464) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653567)

A couple weeks ago: the Mandrake 9.2 ISOs were available on Kazaa.

Re:A little ironic, don't you think? (2, Informative)

DiscoOnTheSide (544139) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653604)

Not to mention publicly released music by the bands of 3 of my friends...

Re:A little ironic, don't you think? (1)

bigberk (547360) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653658)

Almost everything on kazaa is illegal. I challenge you to name the last time you saw something that was in the public domain or under a free license
slackware 9 ISO images

Re:A little ironic, don't you think? (1)

ExtremeTomato (730542) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653632)

Since when did hypocrisy change anything?

Only a few seconds in... (1)

herrvinny (698679) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653500)

And already /.'ed. Doesn't anyone have a mirror?

The K++ Network (2, Informative)

SYSS Mouse (694626) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653503)

I ran K++ today, and it is still running.

Well, it is a decentralized network, so it cannot be shut down. Nut there will be no more updates, I suppose.

Re:The K++ Network (5, Informative)

cyberfunk2 (656339) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653520)

Uhm.. They shutdown K++ , the CLIENT, not the fasttrackk network...

Re:The K++ Network (3, Informative)

p0rnking (255997) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653542)

K, it's one thing not to read the original article, and another to not read what was posted on /.
"... that the Kazaalite K++ project has been shutdown by Sharman Networks. The project, which had been ..."
Kazaalite is just a "hacked" up version on Kazaa ... it runs on the same network. What Sharman Networks has done, is shutdown the project (K++).

Re:The K++ Network (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7653576)

Not only has Sharman Networks succeeded in eliminating nearly every major resource of Kazaa Lite K++, they are systematically forcing it off the network.

How you ask?

Recent upgrades to Kazaa clients (2.5 and higher) make them less tolerant with outdated or non official clients such as Kazaa Lite K++. Kazaa Lite is based on a version prior to 2.5, therefore a current supernode will not accept its shares. Although this will cause network headaches in terms of traffic, the client will not be able to participate or download off the main FastTrack network. This will effectively cluster and isolate all modified Kazaa clients from FastTrack.


from http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=339

Oh Well, there not the first, there not the last (5, Interesting)

UltraSkuzzi (682384) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653504)

I think Sharman will be in for a surprise once the find out that 75% of its 'users' were on the bootleged client. It's pretty obvious, those users aren't coming back either. The RIAA has already turned that network to shit with their corrupted songs. I guess we call all move on up to BitTorrent :D

Re:Oh Well, there not the first, there not the las (2, Informative)

JFMulder (59706) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653591)

So boys and girls, for your video needs, be they anime, TV shows or movies, turn over to
suprnova.org . It's not as exaustive as Kazaa, but there are thousand of excellent torrents over there.

Re:Oh Well, there not the first, there not the las (5, Informative)

kryptkpr (180196) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653592)

I've said this before, and I will say it again. BT is not a good network for illegal content.

It's efficient in distributing large files quickly, especially if lots of people want them. However, it does so at the cost of any and all anonymity.. It's trivial to find IPs of people sharing any file (just ask the tracker; it'll give you a FULL LIST), without even downloading the file/joining the swarm yourself.

The MPAA at least has already begun sending DMCA-ish notices to ISPs stating "BitTorrent" as the network name..

As I've also said before, Don't do things illegal in your country!

(And if you want to do them, maybe you need to move to a different Country? God bless Canada and the blank media tax; I don't mind paying a little bit on every CD-R for a music piracy license!)

Re:Oh Well, there not the first, there not the las (1)

dougmc (70836) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653648)

Don't do things illegal in your country!
Yeah! Do them in another country!
God bless Canada and the blank media tax; I don't mind paying a little bit on every CD-R for a music piracy license!
The US has a similar law [brouhaha.com] , with similar results. Of course, the tax only applies to digital audio media, including Audio CD-Rs.

Of course, the RIAA isn't going after downloaders (I wonder if they'd win) -- they're going after uploaders. And having paid a tax on your CD-R media won't help there.

Re:Oh Well, there not the first, there not the las (1)

bigberk (547360) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653663)

God bless Canada and the blank media tax; I don't mind paying a little bit on every CD-R for a music piracy license!
Ditto! In fact I feel like it's my duty to download and burn music to CD-Rs. Over the holiday I'm going to also download a shitload of movies for burning (the levvy goes towards both music and film industries, after all). Make the most of it!

Re:Oh Well, there not the first, there not the las (4, Interesting)

MikeCapone (693319) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653595)

I guess we can all move on up to BitTorrent :D

BitTorrent is too centralized for this kind of things (large scale, anyway).

Instead, check out eMule [emule-project.net] and Soulseek [slsknet.org] .

Zeropaid and Sharman (0, Offtopic)

Grassferry49 (458582) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653505)

That was a very fast slashdotting of Zeropaid, perhaps Sharman shut them down too?

So what? (2, Interesting)

Pig Hogger (10379) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653508)

The binary will be alive forever in hacker circles...

And someone will strip-out the spyware.

And, pray tell, how can something out of the reach of the RIAA's long legal arm can have things done????

How to get K++ Lite... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7653574)

1.) Download Kazaa
2.) Run Kazaa and search for K++ lite
3.) Download K++ lite from Kazaa
4.) Install K++ lite and delete Kazaa

Presto!

Thank God You Can Still Download the .exe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7653509)



Just search for kazaa lite ++.

i give it.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7653513)

i give it oh, another 3 months before we see an equivalent replacement....

But I am using it right now? (1, Interesting)

thoolie (442789) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653518)

Downloading Nirvana "Lake of Fire"

Huh.......You know, K++ is the best thing to happen to Kazaa, it really gave Kazaa that outsider thing. If you went after sharman, you weren't neccasarly going after K++, it was a different, independant offshoot. Plus it blocked add and spy and riaa ware...

Oh well, Sharman does have to look out for number 1.

Re:But I am using it right now? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7653539)

"Where do P2P'ers go when they die"
"They don't go to heaven where the angels fly ..."

Re:But I am using it right now? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7653553)

"They go to the Lake of Fire and fry."
"See 'em again on the Fourth of July"

~~~

Re:But I am using it right now? (1)

bhima (46039) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653624)

Great Song, I liked "Oh Me" better though.

SH*T !! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7653519)

... and I only had 1 meg left till I finished my Hulk download

In other news... (1)

frostbane (660953) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653521)

Slashdot has taken down Zeropaid...

Don't worry (3, Funny)

einer (459199) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653522)

You can still find it on Kazaa. Oh the irony.

Re:Don't worry (4, Funny)

DrEldarion (114072) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653552)

Of course, you have to install the spyware-enhanced version to get the spyware-free version, irony++.

recursive (2, Funny)

QEDog (610238) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653611)

You can still find it on Kazaa. Oh the irony.

You can find Kazaa on K Lite ++ too!

If(n==1){ Print: "Gotta love recursive jokes"}

curses (0, Redundant)

intuit (729653) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653524)

and i was just about to download it to get some songs i REALLY need. that's super great. on the other hand, now i'm not doing anything illegal, and that's always good.

Re:curses (2, Insightful)

Joe Tie. (567096) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653573)

and i was just about to download it to get some songs i REALLY need.

If you're to the point of REALLY NEEDING them, and not just wanting them, you could always go buy the cd.

Ummm... (1, Redundant)

EvilFrog (559066) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653525)

I'm sure I'm just stating the obvious here, but isn't it a little hypocritical for them to complain about people breaking their license agreement when 99.9% of the time their software is used to steal from other companies?

Re:Ummm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7653657)

Hypocrisy is relative when one is making money.

the story at slyck (5, Informative)

real_smiff (611054) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653526)

Zeropaid /.'ed. Alternative article [slyck.com] . Probably the original anyway.. zeropaid has a habit of ahem 'stealing' news.

apologies to zeropaid (1)

real_smiff (611054) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653593)

oops, before they break out the lawyers and now the page has loaded: they credit PeerGuardian with the original story [peerguardian.net] . Of course, whether that's the original original, who knows. hehe. the Net is wonderful in this way ;)

Create (1, Funny)

StupaflyD (729788) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653527)

1) Create really neat P2P application and release it for free
2) Get people addicted to free porn
3) Charge for service
4) Profit!

Re:Create (5, Funny)

suwain_2 (260792) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653575)

You must be new here. You're not supposed to fill in all the steps; you use a ??? for one of them.

Re:Create (1)

SoftwareTechie (244191) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653659)

1) Create really neat P2P application and release it for free
2) Get people addicted to free porn
3) Charge for service
4) ???

Still works for me... (5, Funny)

tinrobot (314936) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653528)

My Kazaa Lite still works... I don't feel the need to upgrade anytime soon, so it's not going to make a huge difference to me. Heck, I'm still using Word 97.

Even if the Kazaa Lite website goes away, what's to prevent people from trading the old version of Kazaa Lite on Kazaa?

Re:Still works for me... (4, Interesting)

jo_ham (604554) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653557)

I think the problem will stem when Sharman networks changes the protocol slightly for "security" or "usability enhancement" to shut out the K++ client, much like the IM providers do to keep all the decent 3rd party clients guessing.

No doubt it will be reverse engineered again, but it will be harder to distribute and publicise that fix without a central website. It will still get out though - word of mouth will spread it.

I think I'll stick to the iTMS (well, when it's finally available for the UK).

Re:Still works for me... (1)

p0rnking (255997) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653565)

But for how long ...?
What if they end up fiddling with their servers, so that it's only opened to kazaa clients after a specific version, then what?
All other "hacked" up versions would be locked out.

Re:Still works for me... (4, Informative)

p0rnking (255997) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653594)

from another article ....

"Recent upgrades to Kazaa clients (2.5 and higher) make them less tolerant with outdated or non official clients such as Kazaa Lite K++. Kazaa Lite is based on a version prior to 2.5, therefore a current supernode will not accept its shares. Although this will cause network headaches in terms of traffic, the client will not be able to participate or download off the main FastTrack network. This will effectively cluster and isolate all modified Kazaa clients from FastTrack."

Was RIAA involved (0, Offtopic)

kyndig (579355) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653537)

That link is no longer on the site. I'm currently writing a paper on RIAA actions against the MP3 technology. This would be another good tickmark in my paper; showing RIAA's over zelousness in attacking computer technology.

Kyndig

Re:Was RIAA involved (2, Informative)

klparrot (549422) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653563)

showing RIAA's over zelousness in attacking computer technology.

It wasn't the RIAA that took down Kazaa Lite, it was Sharman Networks (the creators of the "real" Kazaa). Kazaa Lite was a reverse engineered and modified version of Kazaa, and Sharman complained it was copyright infringement.

Re:Was RIAA involved (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7653570)

You should just forget writing any paper and quit school since you don't even have enough intelligence to realize this action is NOT related to the RIAA.

Re:Was RIAA involved (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7653664)

And perhaps you should quit reading /. entirely, since you haven't realized there's a question being asked, and not a statement being made (even if there is no question mark).

Well that sucks... (2, Insightful)

Little Grey (571460) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653538)

Guess it's time to start using mlMac and Poisoned on my Mac

Obligatory mirroring (4, Informative)

JayBlalock (635935) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653540)

Speaking with RatFaced, one of the Kazaa Lite forum moderators today and our contact at K-Lite, I have uncovered news that the Kazaa Lite K++ project has been shut down by Sharman Networks on grounds of copyright infringement.

The project, which had been set up to block spy and ad ware within the Kazaa Media Desktop Program has achieved notoriety within the P2p world through its simplistic approach and success in reverse engineering the Kazaa application.

However, the program infringed on the copyright of Sharman Networks, the company that now own and program the Kazaa Media Desktop application, after the purchase of the code and copyright in 2002. The FastTrack (Kazaa) network is financed through advertising systems, which Kazaa Lite K++ does not include, and so was seen as a threat by the owners.

Sharman have threatened legal action, and ordered that the offending content be removed from the official Kazaa Lite sites, including http://www.kazaalite.tk/ which now contains no reference to the existance of the application.

RatFaced said that the decision was ?Ironic, that Kazaa is complaining about copyright issues, especially as K-Lite ++ stands for everything that Kazaa CLAIMS to stand for... but fails to deliver.?

We will perhaps never see Kazaa Lite again, but we can hope that users will remain aware of the spyware that is hidden inside the Kazaa application, which is used to finance the creation of the software.

eMule and WinMX offer spyware-free alternatives to Kazaa.

KARMA WHORE (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7653566)

Post as AC - you don't deserve karma just because you were the first to copy and paste an article

So that's why... (1)

Wain13 (685213) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653554)

it took me half an hour last night to find the newest version and I eventually had to download it (the english version mind you) from Germany.

Well crap. Help me with a new program (5, Interesting)

Nemus (639101) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653581)

Well, I'm using the program right now, but I've noticed its running reeeeaaaaallllyyyy slow, so maybe a bunch of people are on like the last days of Napster, downloading like crazy. I, however, am in a slight fix.


See, I live in a dorm, and we're unable to connect to Kazaa here, the network flat out won't let us, with no (legal) way around it. For some reason though, K-Lite still connects. Can someone reccomend a good program to me for all file types? I predominantly download movies, the occasional game to demo it, and sometimes music. And please don't reccomend iMesh. I don't know if I could have intentionally installed that much spyware on my computer. I strongly doubt they have anything of the GNU variety blocked, but there are so many GNU P2P programs I don;t know which one to get. Noobish question I'm sure, but any advice is appreciated.

Re:Well crap. Help me with a new program (0)

sketch7 (586310) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653645)

You should use Bittorrent [bitconjurer.org] . The system of downloading it uses is really good. Get Bittorrent content here [suprnova.tk] .

Oh well. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7653586)

All the more reason to move to Shareaza [shareaza.com] .

Well... (1)

Denyer (717613) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653605)

Quicktime Alternative, Real Alternative and the K-L codec packs are still easy enough to find... I don't think KLite++ will disappear for long.

This won't change things much (1)

JayBlalock (635935) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653606)

Meh. The program will live on, it'll just go underground a couple notches. Or if the creators wanted to be evil, they could "accidentally" let the source code slip out.

For that matter, retooling the program as a patch wouldn't be that bad an idea. People download the real Kazaa, and then there's a prog they can download which converts it into K++.

It'll just be a little while before things stablize and it's generally available again.

Re:This won't change things much (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7653662)

"they could accidentally let the source code slip out"

the makers of K++ did not code the app from source, maybe they could give out the source of their add-ons but as I understood it, they just hacked up the binaries of kazaa

BitTorrent and firewalls (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7653607)

Where I work, I can't use BitTorrent because of the firewall. Therefore I used to use KazaaLite and tunnel it through HTTP-Tunnel.

Is there any way I can do the same with BitTorrent? I looked at the documentation, and it's all a bit confusing (lots of switches, which I'm not sure where to put).

Many thanks in advance.

Re:BitTorrent and firewalls (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7653655)

Although theoretically possible, I don't think the official BT client does that. Google for an alternative client. Most of them have many more features than the regular BT.

Maybe try one called Azereus. It's Java, so it ought to work for you.

I was wondering (1)

The Unabageler (669502) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653615)

how long it would take to be shut down. Imagine if someone released a free product called "Windows Light" that was just like M$ Windows but faster and hassle free. Microsoft would have them in court ASAP for all sorts of things.

Or perhaps something like UNIX Light...oh wait, BSD did that and they DID have a court battle :)

Re:I was wondering (5, Informative)

dnaumov (453672) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653677)

"
Imagine if someone released a free product called "Windows Light" that was just like M$ Windows but faster and hassle free."

Windows Lite [litepc.com] .

What about 'other' clients futures (1)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653628)

Like MLDonkey.. GiFT... etc..

Seems counterproductive to shut out access to the stuff you are trying to push.. Hmm sounds like the MPAA in a way if you think about it..

Does it really matter? (1)

I Love this Company! (547598) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653638)

As long as the application has been released, it's no big deal if it's been shut down. I mean, UltraHLE was only out for a few hours, but it survided.

Hmmmm curious... (4, Interesting)

MoeMoe (659154) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653656)

I just took a look at the Kazaa Lite homepage and found a new app on the list I haven't seen since my last check a few weeks ago.... It seems "Soul Seek" (that name bothers me) is the replacement they are now offering... One catch, IT'S A CENTRAL SERVER! So why hasn't the RIAA ran after this?

<conspiracy mode=1>

Maybe the RIAA has paid off the makers of K++ and made this new "app" as a honeypot for people to use instead so to collect data on users who request songs that are copyrighted... What kept K++ anonymous was its decentralized system, why would the RIAA not go after something that is directly hosting copyrighted files? Unless some news about the RIAA going after Soul Seek comes up, I am gonna steer clear of it...

<conspiracy mode=0>

My K++ client works fine. (1)

YoungBonzi (692874) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653661)

I just tested it and there are 3,678,170+/- users online with me. The article can't handle being slashdotted so I didn't really get to read it, but is there a set date when the client will become inactive?

Bloat (2, Interesting)

Nilisco (730538) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653665)

Kazaa lite was getting bloated anyways. It serves it's purpose with the no advertisments. Instead, they decide to add all of these great features such as "download enhancers." There really isn't anything else they could add. The current version is fine.

Here's how you download Kazaa K++ (2, Informative)

schnits0r (633893) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653666)

Download Kazaa
Search for KAzaa K++
download it
Install it
And delete the regular KAzaa

I know it works because I did it on a computer I was setting up.

Is there any spyware in Skype? (1)

ezh (707373) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653673)

Sharman also operates P2P telephony-IM project called Skype [skype.com] I'm just wondering if there is any spyware in it and if so, is anybody going to create something like Skype Lite L++?

Alternate Kazaa-Lite download source (2, Informative)

joel8x (324102) | more than 10 years ago | (#7653678)

You can always download it here: OldVersion [oldversion.com]
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