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Finding Holiday Discounts on iPods?

Cliff posted more than 10 years ago | from the getting-a-hold-of-a-real-bargain dept.

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jeffy124 asks: "I was hoping to get an Apple iPod for Christmas. Alas, it's too expensive and out of the budget. So I'm forced into purchasing it for myself. Hoping to cash in on a holiday season bargain, I've been keeping my eye on the sales circulars that come in the newspaper. I've seen plenty of discounts for MP3 players of all kinds (Rio's, Dell's new HD-based player, etc), and the iPod has also shown up. Christmas does not yet seem very merry to me. They're always at the regular $299/399/499 price, never at a discount of any sort. You read that right, it's 'for sale' at the *regular* price. Stores guilty of this include Best Buy, Circuit City, Target, and CompUSA. Why do stores do this? How often? And does anyone know why Apple has been singled out while their competition has gotten their products discounted? Anyone know who *is* granting discounts on iPods this holiday season?"

"The other day came in the mail a 10% off coupon for various items at Best Buy, including 'MP3 Players' as indicated on the front of slip. Hoping this was how I was gonna get that discount, I set aside time this weekend to drive to Delaware in order to skip out on my local state sales tax too. I turned the coupon over, and in the legal disclaimer was the phrase 'Excludes Apple iPod Players.' Needless to say, a Merry Christmas is still aways off."

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The time to shop... (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7663528) after christmas. That is when all the best bargains are found.

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Captain Goatse (715400) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663530)

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apple fixes the price (5, Insightful)

websensei (84861) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663533)

because they can. (boring).

next issue?

Re:apple fixes the price (0, Troll)

plinius (714075) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663632)

Regarding your signature...

IMO, there is no heaven or hell. Paradise is what you make for yourself here on Earth. If that process involves pain (stress), then it is a good kind if and only if it is an essential experience for you, true to your deepest self.

Now, Apple pretends to offer a kind of paradise for users, a simpler, glossier interface, nicer manuals, but really it is just lining its corporate pockets.

Paradise is something you make yourself... you don't buy it, you don't find it in a church.

Re:apple fixes the price (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7663668)

The parent got modded up as flamebait, but the statement is in fact true. There IS Apple price fixing for it's authorized resellers.

I work at an Apple Authorized Reseller in Los Angeles, and Apple has made it pretty clear that if we drop the price by more than $50, we aren't going to be an authorized reseller much longer.

Personally, I think it's terrible, because there is quite a profit made on Apple hardware by us, particularly G5 desktop systems, and iPods.

Basically, we could knock a good 74-100$ off the iPod without losing money. And I think if we did such a thing, we'd get a pretty healthy customer base very quickly.

Just too suspicious of Apple (0, Troll)

plinius (714075) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663535)

Why should I have to enslave myself to Apple and its Barfintosh ethos (which is expressed: money money money...for us), when I can more easily plunk down a lot less money for any of the new hard drive based MP3 players which come with no strings attached?

Re:Just too suspicious of Apple (3, Insightful)

saddino (183491) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663623)

Why should I have to enslave myself to Apple

You shouldn't. Nobody's forcing you, right? If you want to spend the money for the iPod, then do it. If you don't, then, er, don't.

Re:Just too suspicious of Apple (0, Flamebait)

pbox (146337) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663661)

Also you will be exposing yourself to the much revered "scorched earth" product support methodology of Apple. I was a happy owner of the touch-wheel tactile-button iPod for 3 months, after which they refused to implement the on-the-go playlist option for that model, leaving the only $500 upgrade path for the feature...

you're just lazy (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7663536)

find your own deals

Just wait... (5, Funny)

Cyno01 (573917) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663538)

Until they day after you buy one, Apple will annouce price breaks of $50-$100 and new larger capacity models.

the answer is obvious. (-1, Troll)

xeeno (313431) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663666)

And it is called emo faggotry.

Their white sterile look goes good with starbucks coffee and muffins, and doesn't clash with the trademark thick black glasses.

Re:Just wait... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7663700)

I bet you have a great FLAC collection of Radiohead concerts, don't you emo fagboy?

Blame Apple (5, Insightful)

EricWright (16803) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663541)

AFAIK, Apple is the one keeping prices up. If you look at third party Mac sellers, they will often give you a memory upgrade, HD increase, free accessories, etc., but almost never a price break. My guess would be that Apple exerts similar influence regarding price controls of other product lines, too.

If you want a cheaper ipod, your best bet is most likely going to be eBay.

Re:Blame Apple (4, Interesting)

pizzaman100 (588500) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663690)

AFAIK, Apple is the one keeping prices up.

Yeah, this is pretty common. Microsoft does this all the time with their retail software and the X-BOX.

What annoys me Mail-In-Rebates. It seems like all of the advertized prices for Best Buy, Comp-USA, Staples, yada yada, require rebates. Some require two or more. Rebates suck because you have pay up front, go to the trouble of mailing them in, and then you have to wait 4-6 weeks and hope. Plus you get nailed for the full price on the sales tax.

Ebay? (4, Informative)

aero6dof (415422) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663543)

;) of course, you may find yourself needing to replace a battery.

Re:Ebay? (5, Interesting)

jest3r (458429) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663637)

Ebay iPods [] usually go for around $250+ .. They seem to hold their value relatively well .. still you can save about $100 bucks.

Manufacturer's doing a deal (4, Insightful)

Space cowboy (13680) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663544)

I can't believe there isn't some collusion between the retailers and the manufacturers over Xmas, which has an effect on the 'sale' price. Perhaps Apple said 'No'.

I don't think it's morally right to say that a product is 'on sale' unless there's been a reduction in price though - at least in the UK, there must have been an immediately preceding period at which the product was priced higher for it to be marketed as at a 'sale' price...


Re:Manufacturer's doing a deal (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663580)

Maybe those store normally sell it above apples price?
Heh, maybe they just bought a 1000 of them at retail to try and sell to customers in store...

Re:Manufacturer's doing a deal (5, Insightful)

Acidic_Diarrhea (641390) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663591)

But a sale merely means that objects are being sold. "New sale price" means that I am selling a product for a new price. "Sale price" merely means that the cost of the product in my sale (which I have every day, as the operator of a store - hypothetically speaking) is this price. In fact, "new sale price" doesn't even imply that the price is lower than it was previously.

I think people forget that any time any person or business sells anything, they are having a sale. "Sale" has come to take on the meaning of reduced prices but I don't think people's inability to recall the original meaning of words needs to be legislated.

Re:Manufacturer's doing a deal (1)

zoobaby (583075) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663600)

"I don't think it's morally right to say that a product is 'on sale' unless there's been a reduction in price though - at least in the UK, there must have been an immediately preceding period at which the product was priced higher for it to be marketed as at a 'sale' price..."

Umm..'on sale'...isn't all merchandise in a store 'on sale.'

I know what you mean, companies advertise products two different ways, at full price and at reduced pricing. When item is still at full price, they are just saying "Hey, you! Check out what we carry." When they have it a reduced price, they are saying "Hey, you cheapskate! Come buy this."

Re:Manufacturer's doing a deal (1)

nsanders (208050) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663673)

I think the common missuse of the word "sale" is causing a problem. Sale, does not always mean "discounted from original price." Think of Sale, as "to sell".

1) The exchange of goods or services for an amount of money or its equivalent; the act of selling.
2) An instance of selling.
6) A special disposal of goods at lowered prices: coats on sale this week.

To say it is not morally right to say "sale" is a poor statement. Sale does not always suggest discounted. I agree this is a huge annoyance when stores say "This item is on sale", when really they are only saying, "We sell this item", not "This item is cheaper then usual".

My $0.02

Educational discounts! (4, Insightful)

Dixie_Flatline (5077) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663546)

Find someone that's willing to buy it for you through their higher education discount. In Canada, a $439 10GB iPod goes for about $379 if you use an educational discount, if I recall correctly.

Isn't it Apple? (1)

ZxCv (6138) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663548)

Isn't it Apple that forces the no-discount thing?

Obviously, I could be mistaken, but I could have sworn I've seen this a number of other places as well.

Re:Isn't it Apple? (4, Insightful)

CatOne (655161) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663649)

Apple can enforce a "Minimum Advertised Price." That is, you cannot advertise the product for less than a certain amount.

Apple cannot control what you actually SELL it for, though.

However, if you're a retailer and you know you have X allocation of iPods, and you can sell them all at full retail, why discount?

Blue Cat [Supplementary Article] [Repost] (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7663550)

Blue Cat [] is the cartoon series you should of heard of, but didn't.. despite the fact that it is one of the most popular series in China. It is a remarkably long series having over 1500 episodes. In fact, it displaced The Simpsons as having the longest running time for any cartoon series ever, according to The Guiness Book of World Records [] . Amazingly, the show is free for Chinese broadcasters.. the studio makes money from licensed merchandise instead. You can view a few episodes from the series starting with this one here -> (rtsp:// c3%a81.rm). Don't forget to remove the space from the URL. Increment the show number from 1.rm upwards for more videos.. there are at least 70 of them available online.



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  • Another Internet Explorer bug. M$ sure does suck.
  • Linux rulez the world!
  • U.S. nukes Mexico by the year 2009 says Ho Chi Minh. Oops, that article is over 30 years old. Not news, nothing to see, drive on through.
  • BSD is dying.
  • Darl McBride, heh heh, McBride, snicker, McBride, get it? Heheh..
  • Apple is great, Jobs is God. The iPod is the greatest invention ever! (Besides the Newton, of course.)

Sure, topics that elicit those responses bring in a lot of ad impressions, and the slashbots complain and question whether or not a news item is for nerds if the article does not conform with the rest. Unfortunately, a narrow range of topics make Jack a dull boy. Talk about selling out!

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Price Limits (4, Interesting)

sirmikester (634831) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663552)

I bet it sort of works like the Gamecube price. The company selling the product sets an artifical price limit. In order to be able to sell the product you have to sign a contract agreeing to the price point. So best buy must have signed some sort of agreement with apple and it cannot lower the price. Simple.

Re:Price Limits (2)

IBIC (720349) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663662)

Don't they call that "price fixing?"

"For Sale" does not mean "On Sale" (5, Insightful)

BonrHanzon (411856) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663553)

Just because it's listed in a circular doesn't mean that there's any sale price. We are just conditioned to believe that.
I haven't seen ipods for anything less than MSRP at any B&M either, probably due to the demand being so high.

Re:"For Sale" does not mean "On Sale" (1)

dann0 (555381) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663692)

This is true. Having worked in retail for many years, I often got very frustrated when people felt that we had to offer a lower price on any product that was advertised.

The advertiser is merely advising the consumer that a particular product is available for purchase.

Obviously, if they have a lower price than the competition, then they are going to tell the world + dog. They want your sale. But keep in mind that price is not the only or the best way of differentiating yourself from your competition.

Anyone Have Experience With Battery Refurbishing ? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7663554)

There was a story a couple of weeks ago about a guy who owned an iPod for 18 months, the battery died on him and Apple advised him to buy another iPod. After he started publicizing this, Apple came up with a new battery refurbishing plan.

Has anyone used this new plan? If so, what is your experience?

Re:Anyone Have Experience With Battery Refurbishin (1, Informative)

Finque (653377) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663702)

Actually, Apple offered the battery refurbishing plan a week before he publicized his findings. They probably planned to offer this deal all along anyway, but were waiting until the minimum battery lifespan had been reached.

In response to your question though, I have not used the plan, although I have spoken to an Apple Genius at the local Apple Store about it, and it sounds like a deal to me.

Rebates (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7663555)

You can usually get a rebate if you purchase one with other Apple products. The only way that I was able to afford one with with a $100 rebate when a friend purchased an iBook.

Apple doesn't discount (4, Informative)

BortQ (468164) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663557)

Those familiar with Apple products will tell you that discounts are few and far between. I believe it has to do with Apple's unique relationship with distributors. Stores don't have as much leeway to discount Apple stuff as they do with other brands.

The only time you will find Apple products for sale is when Apple passes along end-of-life discounts. (i.e. right before the new model comes out)

buy used (2, Interesting)

endemic0 (196959) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663558)

I bought my Ipod over the summer used from I know their are people who have issues with the battery longevity but I have not noticed any problems. Best thing was I payed $150 for a 10gig Ipod.

Re:buy used (2, Interesting)

endemic0 (196959) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663621)

one other place you can look at is Apple's Refurbished Store [] which occasionaly has Ipods for sale along with other discounted apple goodness.

Education Discount (1)

hexdcml (553714) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663563)

How about *ahem* getting an education discount?
Not a student? Erm, how about asking one to buy one (after giving them the money to them first). I mean, the cheapest iPods aren't that much more from a top end MD player ~250 thereabouts, its not *that* expensive.

Try looking on eBay? or [] there sometimes can be good deals to be found.

Check coupon sites... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7663565) has a coupon for apple 10% off I think. You can also look for other generic coupons at similar sites. As for a good deal, all you need is someone else's credit card.

Forget it, go for the Rio Karma (3, Informative)

bconway (63464) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663567)

I recently upgraded from my iPod to the Rio Karma, and it is THE iPod killer. More reviews can be found here: article [] .

Great Article (-1, Flamebait)

blahbooboo2 (602610) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663568)

Wow, slashdot is now a shopping advice site. Great. Unbelieveable, why don't you just do your own homework you lazy ****

Re:Great Article (0, Offtopic)

blahbooboo2 (602610) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663650)

Actually, I was not flamebaiting. Geesh, if you say ANYTHING negative they call it flamebaiting. Seriously, how is giving buying advice a worthy Slashdot article. Be like the rest of us, do your own freaking buying research.

Re:Great Article (0, Offtopic)

blahbooboo2 (602610) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663683)

Yes, anything negative is a flamebait! I was bitching and moaning is this article News for Nerds?!

Rio Karma is my next iPod (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7663571)

Ogg vorbis support is just too important to me to look at a iPod. Rio Karma 20 can be had for about $270.00 online and the Karma 40 should be out shortly. I've been waiting for years for a Ogg portable. At last they are starting to appear!

first post!!!!!!!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7663573)

I Did It!!!!

Ebay. (1)

readpunk (683053) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663575)

Ebay is your best bet, still. Apple is not going to help you out and you shouldn't help them.

False Advertising? (1)

quantaman (517394) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663576)

Are they allowed to claim an item is on sale without actually changing the price or do they just reduce the price by 1 cent or something?

Re:False Advertising? (1)

zoobaby (583075) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663652)

It is not false advertising if you sell the item at the price you advertise it for.

Flase advertising is when you list an item at one price then sell it at a higher price.

Capitalism 101 (5, Insightful)

DoraLives (622001) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663577)

Why do stores do this?

To make money.

How often?

As long as the market will bear.

I suspect (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7663578)

That apple holds these companies hostage with an agreement to sell the product only at specific prices. If anyone sells it at a different price, they can't sell the item anymore.

Supply and Demand (5, Insightful)

moehoward (668736) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663583)

Supply and demand, baby. Deal with it. You don't WANT an iPod competitor. You want an iPod. Don't try to pass the competitors off as equivalent and then bitch about a price differece. Go buy the competitor if you don't like it.

Step 1) Create product
Step 2) Sell it at market price based on supply and demand
Step 3) Profit

It's so easy, even Microsoft can do it!

What about a refurb? (5, Informative)

Kranium (211344) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663585)

Have you considered a refurb unit? Checkout the Apple Store [] and look for the big red "SAVE" tag on the left. I used a refurbished iBook for quite a while and it never gave me any trouble..

resellers are forced (5, Informative)

sublime (38124) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663586)

I used to work for Apple, and I know first hand that Apple forces resellers to their pricing structure.. You won't find any apple products for less than they sell for at the apple store.

lift your game slashdot (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7663588)

why is this even a story? some joker wants to get others to do his xmas shopping price-checks for him?


Econ 101 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7663589)

Supply and Demand. Why lower the price when people are still buying? Stores only discount when they want a product to move faster. If the product is selling, it doesn't go on sale.

Same old Story (2, Interesting)

damniel (662838) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663590)

This seems to be the case with a lot of products in the retail environment. Gaming consoles come to mind. While many retail products in the big box stores are discounted due to wholesale bulk purchasing, some products manufacturers just won't let the retailer alter the price, because it doesn't jive with their "Marketing" plan.

Why not a Rio Karma? (3, Informative)

jkeyes (243984) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663592)

You can find them for about here [] for $289 and there's a fun $20 rebate available also. So you can get it for $269 AR and there is also free shipping. So it's below the iPod it's 20 GB AND it supports Ogg and FLAC. It also has unofficial support for Linux so you lose the apple 'coolness' but your pocketbook and open source will thank you!

No discount necessary. (1)

jdawg (21639) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663595)

It's pretty much simple Economics. The iPods are selling just fine at their regular prices. These stores don't need to cut the prices to entice people to buy iPods. They're flying off the shelves without any help.

So, why would anyone cut into their profits if they're gonna sell the same number of units at the full price?

Apple price-fixes, but allows bundles (5, Informative)

SuperBanana (662181) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663597)

Why do stores do this? How often? And does anyone know why Apple has been singled out while their competition has gotten their products discounted?

Because Apple does not allow you to sell Apple products below the pricing offered by Apple themselves.

Apple does, however, let you bundle things- so your best bet is to look for the best bundle(free case etc). Smalldog and MacConnection are among several catalog companies who regularly do these deals, because it's the only way to be competitive(and not a terribly good one, either.)

Do get a case; mine was scratched all over within a half week, and I was excruciatingly careful with it. Also, DO get an extended warranty, and DON'T GET IT FROM APPLE, it's shorter and MORE expensive than Best Buy's(for example.)

FYI- don't bother looking for an iTrip. I placed my order two months ago with Griffin and they have yet to ship me mine. It's getting cancelled tomorrow, I'm fed up of waiting, and I hear the FM adapters all suck anyway.

Only Apple (1)

PhlegmMaster (596165) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663599)

I know what you mean, it seems that only Apple has this problem with discounts.
Last time I went to buy an ibook, it was around christmas, and I knew that I wasn't going to find any discounts for it. So, I looked for the non-monentary things that I could get with it.
I actually wound up getting triple fly-buys points (rewards program in New Zealand) with it, which is probably the best deal I could've gotten.

Apple Doesn't Compete on Price (1)

Modab (153378) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663601)

Rather, they RARELY compete on price. Macintosh will always cost more than mere regular vendors, because they offer unprecedented design and user interface. They want to be the Mercedes of the computer industries. They're more likely to introduce to you the limited Platinum edition Ipod offered for only a month at the low price of $599 than to give a discount on their current line.

Bottom line, discounted prices for Macintosh equates to lesser quality. Don't hold your breath for lower prices on the most popular gadget of the year.

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What is this crap? (-1, Troll)

Fourier (60719) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663604)

Slashdot: Pissing and moaning for nerds. Stuff that nobody cares about.

This is why I filter out "Ask Slashdot" posts. Too bad this was categorized under Apple. (I'm looking at YOU, Cliff.)

Apple still can't make enough iPODs (4, Insightful)

Osrin (599427) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663605)

Your scenario is driven by demand, my local CompUSA is generally out of stock of them, not by choice but because demand is so high.

They're maintaining the price and pushing a huge advertising campaign, it's a good strategy, higher price & lower volume = bigger profit & lower manufacturing cost.

Ask your state legislator... (1)

stomv (80392) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663606)

but IIRC, in nearly all states, a product cannot be advertised as "on sale" unless it is selling at a price below a former price for that item.

If it's always been $299, it simply cannot be advertised as a "sale" with a price of $299.

Again, IANAL, but your state legislator knows lots about the law. Ask him.

i got a used demo unit (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7663608)

from I'm happy to say, well, the only damage i could find was on the box. It had some sticky stuf from duct tape and it had a dented corner. woohoo. As for the iPod, it was a 2G 10 GB one. Battery came full, and it came with all that... earphones, iPod, firewire cable, AC adapter brick, that case, the remote... yeah. Firmware was also up-to-date (although that's old compared to the new iPods.) The point is, the iPod itself had really no scratches. Shipping was also free (got it on Thankgiving weekend, coupon code GOBBLE) so that was great. It works, real nicely, I might add. I can't ask for anything else. Oh, they're restocking on some 3G iPods. 10 GB, 15 GB, and 30 GB, I believe. I'd say they did a good job on sending it quickly and all. Hmm... if you're buying anything else from them, don't do it. Ripoff prices. If you're getting an iPod? I have to say, go for it! THEY'RE AS GOOD OR CHEAPER THAN EBAY MOST OF THE TIME. CHECK FOR YOURSELF. There might be exceptions, of course, but I didn't see many.

Me too (2, Informative)

slashdoter (151641) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663611)

I ran into the exact same problem, it looks like Apple is doing thier best to control the price while they think they are on top. In other words just cashing in as long as they can. In the end I bought a dell DJ for my brother, it's the same in almost every regard ( cept geek value, and it doesn't matter to him he's high on jock value) except it's price (lower at dell) and it's battery life (twice as long). In the end Dell won out and it's already here.

If you don't like apple's game do as I did, don't play it.

You've answered your own question. (1)

Eevee (535658) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663612)

You have a coupon for 10% off any other MP3 player, yet you're not buying one because you want an iPod. If the ipod wasn't good enough for you to ignore the discount, then it too would be discounted.

It's the economy, *censored* (1)

elflet (570757) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663613)

iPod's aren't being discounted because they're still in high demand. Even the refurbished iPods on Apple's site are sold out. On the other hand, lists a range of prices on iPods including $352-$489 for a 30GB model.

Price drops when demand drops. (3, Informative)

kwerle (39371) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663614)

...They're always at the regular $299/399/499 price...

The other day came in the mail a 10% off coupon for various items at Best Buy, including 'MP3 Players' .. 'Excludes Apple iPod Players.' Needless to say, a Merry Christmas is still aways off.

Looks like "still a ways off" is $29.90 .

Finally: WebObjects/A ppleStore.woa/70702/wo/Lh7my7TA0KCr3f9EhEZxWPiry53 /,37

(special deals page):
Refurb iPod 10GB (Mac & Windows) Dock not included: $229.

You didn't look very hard, did you?

They don't need to discount...? (5, Funny)

frenetic3 (166950) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663616)

Wild conjecture, but maybe it's just because they have such a strong brand name (kid wants an *iPod* for xmas, not an mp3 player) that they feel that their product is unique and that sales wouldn't drastically increase if they cut their prices (or conversely sales wouldn't drop that much if they kept prices high, because their customers don't see the cheapo competing mp3 players as valid substitutes for an iPod.)

Kinda like toy fads -- what kid would want to accept a cheap knockoff "Fondle Me Herbert" doll when all their little pals have "Tickle Me Elmos"? :P


Refurbs for All! (1)

TylerL82 (617087) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663617)

Click on Special Deals near the bottom on the left column.
As little as $229 for a refurbished 10GB iPod.

They don't need to (2, Insightful)

Alcimedes (398213) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663619)

You don't put your product on sale unless you have some need to put it on sale.

They have marketshare, and they have a product that's selling like mad. Why lower the price when people are buying as many as you can make anyway?

$100 battery? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7663628)

You're not paying attention! The battery lasts about 18 months and then you gotta MAIL to Apple to get it replaced for over a 100 bucks! It was $260 but they lower it. Still, bend over if you buy an iPod, fool!

some retailers do discount (1)

nickorr (112242) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663629)

I know here in Oz, that most retailers don't discount, and I never really asked why, I assumed it was just them going for higher margins. However I know that streetwise software [] does. They've always got good discounts on all the apple stuff.

Go to DealMac (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7663630)

Go to [] and search for "ipod". There are deals to be had on old models, refurbs, used, and open box ipods. On brand-spankin' new ones, you'll be lucky to get $10 off.

This is news? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7663633)

Seriously, whining about iPod discounts makes the front page these days??? Oh, I _must_ be new here.

for sale (1)

h4x0r-3l337 (219532) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663634)

You read that right, it's 'for sale' at the *regular* price

You're confusing "for sale" with "on sale". That being said, Apple-stuff is rarely on sale. Fry's had some deals the day after thanksgiving though. MacOS X Panther for $99.95 for example. I believe they also had the low-end iPod for $250 or so.

20" Apple monitor at Fry's, same story (1)

timothy (36799) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663636)

Yesterday in the Seattle Fry's I noticed a little sign ("Store special price!" or something to that effect) next to the $1299 20" Apple LCD display.

Uh, that, too is the *regular* price. (unless my eyes / brain deceive me, and they had it for $1199, with me misreading the sign ..) It's nice to have immediate gratification, I guess, but unless other retailers are selling it for more than you can get it direct from the maker, it seems a strange thing to call attention to.

"Sausages -- Special this week, not on sale! Regular Price!"


Apple products are rarely discounted (1)

Avoid_F8 (614044) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663641)

I'm looking for an iBook this Christmas season, and I can't seem to find any discounts either. I'm not sure about this, but Apple's products always seem to be at a constant price at every retail store. Every non-online store that I've seen selling Apple merchandise is an "Apple authorized reseller". This might have something to do with it.

The best way, as far as I know, to get a good deal from these stores is to buy refurbished products.

Before you buy an IPOD (0, Flamebait)

micaiah (593598) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663643)

Just remember that you can't replace the battery if it dies.

You will be buying a new IPOD as this unlucky customer [] found out.

Apple has refurb'd ones on sale... (2, Interesting)

adrew (468320) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663644) the Apple Store []

Scroll down and click on "Special Deals" on the left side of the page.

10GB -> $229.00 (no dock)
15GB -> $279.00
30GB -> $349.00

refurb (1)

Phrack (9361) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663645) and search for refurbished. 30GB second-gen iPod was $327 shipped.

You'll have to check the site every so often, as the availability of refurbished inventory changes.

- - redundant - - (5, Informative)

jafac (1449) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663646)

It's called Minimum Advertised Price.

Apple sets it. You can't re-sell Apple products below this set level. Nobody can.
Yes, Apple has been sued for this. (not successfully IIRC).
In fact, Apple HAS successfully sued resellers for selling under MAP. They put some of them out of business - they were called "Grey-market" MACs, they were bought overseas, and sold into the US market. (some people ended up frying the power supplies because they were set to 240 instead of 120).

Other industries have also been sued for MAP, and gotten their asses handed to them. But since Apple is *NOT* a monopoly, they can get away with it. Don't like it? Buy a competitor's product.

10% is the best you'll find (1)

joel8x (324102) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663647)

10% is the best discount you'll find on an iPod, whether you are a student, get a corporate discount, or have a friend who works at Apple.

Your best bet is to wait until after Macworld San Francisco and also check on Macrumors' buying guide here. [] to make sure you don't end up paying for something thats considerably cheaper in a month,

Free iPod... (5, Funny)

supertbone (624441) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663651)

if you buy a VW bug

Not "On Sale." (1)

MagusSlurpy (592575) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663653)

These items are "for sale." Look it up. There's a difference.

true of many items really (2, Interesting)

b17bmbr (608864) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663655)

i am in the market for a digital camera. no matter where you go, they are all the same price. exactly the same price. it's been afew years since i worked retail, but this is a defense mechanism of sorts. one, since nobody is the low price leader, and everybody price matches, then nobody gets screwed, everybody sells some. besides, that way, store A doesn't run out, while store B gets screwed, which also pisses off customers. and it encourages people to buy now, because they ain't gonna find it cheaper next door. it also allows the stores to add on their own deals and warranties. this is where they make the big bucks. you even see this trend with cars. the price is the price. the real difference is in service. i for one will not shop in best buy, etc., because their sales drones don't know shit. i would rather go to ritz camera, and i know that the price is the same. manufacturers have been trying to do this for some time. there was a famous case a number of years ago with browning shotguns. they wanted all dealers to price them the same. went to court and lost. but, if you look at the hardware market, the markup is almost nil. as for ipods, you bet your ass that if you sell it for $1 less than apple without their approval, you'll never get another shipment. macmall sells their hardware for $5 less, but i guess they got a deal from apple. and besides,l they always throw more memory, etc., in with the deal. just don't expect things to change. and truthfully, i think customers like it better. if you want a good deal, go to ebay.

Apple's prices are "Fixed" (1)

IBitOBear (410965) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663656)

... as in "price fixing".

It is not illegal for the manufacturer of a product to "fix" their own price. If you carry apple products, you carry them at the price apple spesifies. That is the agreement you sign when you become a vendor.

This is not well publicized, but it is true.

So Best Buy (et al) are not "singling out" apple for this no discount policy. Apple it doing it to the product on purpose.

For various reasons, people don't think of the iPod as having any competetors, and are looking for an iPod per se, instead of a portable media player with (some list of ) features.

So the product leader is charging a price that they feel the market will bear.

For comparasion, check out the price scheudles for Rolex as opposed to Timex. Not just the difference in magnitude of the prices, but in termos of how often each go on (discounted) sale.

Rank(ing) has its priveleges...

Apple's not the only one. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7663667)

I followed Sony Camcorders for a couple of years waiting for a price break. It was 2 years after I bought one that the price dropped ... $100 down from $900. Nikon is pretty much the same way. Fortunately, Canon is putting pressure on them, so the D100 has dropped $500 in the past 6 months. Note that these are not sale prices ... they're never on sale.

The Apple brand (2, Insightful)

jetkust (596906) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663675)

Part of Apple's pricing strategy is that "it cost's more, so it must be good.", backed up with Apple's general image of creating superior products. I just wonder what will happen if Apple ever releases a $200 or $300 pc. Complete Mayham?!?

Its Apple, what do you really expect? (1)

Shivetya (243324) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663677)

I have an iPod, I was quite resigned to paying list price for one. I did look high and low, but honestly, when you have the best product on the market, why should you have to discount them? Anyway, Apple is notorious about their pricing, but their marketing does allow them to be.

You discount them when your competitors actually show that they are truly competitive. Frankly most of the other MP3 players look ugly, and worse are slaved to MusicMatch.

iTunes Music Store and iTunes is worth the premium as well. If your serious about taking your tunes with you, want a very good firewire/usb drive, and have it all in a stylish and easy to use package there is only one choice.

Huh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7663678)

Retailers use that list to advertise their products along with the real discounts. That's very usual, I see every week with CompUSA. The idea is that if the consumer checks it very irregularly, he may think that it is on sale, so he goes there and buys it. It is just a nice way of selling it.

When are you Apple Zeolots going to realize.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7663680)

That Apple gouges its customers like every other corporation out there. It is a troll post, but it is the truth.

not true! (1)

mwhahaha (172475) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663682)

When I purchased my iPod back in march, i was able to use my 10% coupon from best buy. I'm willing to bet that they are the ones who are keeping the price up since they know how well the iPods will be selling. You may just want to hold out till after the holidays

Try Dell (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7663687)

Your best bet may be Dell. They occasionally have coupons for accessories and peripherals (which might include the iPod). That's how I got a 40 GB iPod from them a few months ago for $430. Check Bensbargains [] and Techbargains [] for the coupons.

Minor Amazon discounts here (1)

phillymjs (234426) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663688)

Mac news site Macintouch [] has a bunch of discounts available via Amazon links. Here are the ones for the iPod:

iPod 10GB [] : $284.05
iPod 20GB [] : $379.05
iPod 40GB [] : $474.05


Why be stuck on an iPod? (2, Informative)

fatwreckfan (322865) | more than 10 years ago | (#7663694)

If you're worried about price, why not look at other cheaper options? I have a Creative Zen [] which was much cheaper than an iPod, with considerably more storage. Also, the iRiver iHP-120 [] looks amazing. Check around for reviews, and you'll find that both of these products are held in high regard. Don't fall for the Apple hype!

The answer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7663701)

Why do stores do this? How often? And does anyone know why Apple has been singled out while their competition has gotten their products discounted?

Because everyone knows that apple zealots are quite happy to throw large amounts of money away on any piece of crap that bears an apple logo, so they later can astroturf lickable colours, inflated benchmarks or "I get my job done faster if I first get to stare at a spinning beachball for ten minutes"
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