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SCO Group Web Site Attacked Again

simoniker posted more than 10 years ago | from the bad-boy-come-again dept.

Caldera 564

FreeLinux writes "With not much SCO news today, it seemed that this story was needed - Reuters is reporting that, SCO is again suffering under a DDoS attack that has crippled their web site and email system since Wednesday morning. For the third time this year, the SCO Group's Web site came under attack, apparently by hackers unhappy with the company's legal threats against users of the Linux operating system. The denial-of-service attack started at 6:20 a.m. EST Wednesday and continued through the day, said Blake Stowell, spokesman for the Lindon-based company."

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My Anus Stings (-1)

Rectal Examination (711652) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686593)

Can somebody please take a look at it [] for me?

GWB's Resume (-1, Offtopic)

Mr. Cockhead (729065) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686597)

ESUME / George W. Bush The White House, USA EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE LAW ENFORCEMENT: I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine in 1976 for driving under the influence of alcohol. I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver's license suspended for 30 days. My Texas driving record has been "lost" and is not available. MILITARY: I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL. I refused to take a drug test or answer any questions about my drug use. By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat duty in Vietnam. COLLEGE: I graduated from Yale University. I was a cheerleader. PAST WORK EXPERIENCE: I ran for U.S. Congress and lost. I began my career in the oil business in Midland, Texas in 1975. I bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas. The company went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock. I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using taxpayer money. With the help of my father and our right-wing friends in the oil industry (including Enron CEO Ken Lay), I was elected Governor of Texas. ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR: I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies, making Texas the most polluted state in the Union. During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as the most smog-ridden city in America. I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the tune of billions in borrowed money. I set the record for the most executions by any Governor in American history. With the help of my brother, the Governor of Florida, and my father's appointments to the Supreme Court, I became President after losing by over 500,000 votes. ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT: I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one billion dollars per week. I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury. I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history. I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12-month period. I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the U.S. stock market. I am the first president in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal record. I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one year period. After taking-off the entire month of August, I presided over the worst security failure in U.S.history. I am supporting development of a nuclear "Tactical Bunker Buster," a WMD. In my State Of The Union Address, I lied about our reasons for attacking Iraq, then blamed the lies on our British friends. I set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips by a U.S. president. In my first year in office over 2-million Americans lost their jobs and that trend continues every month. I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12-month period. I appointed more convicted criminals to administration than any president in U.S. history. I set the record for least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television. I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed. I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history. I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in duty benefits for active duty troops and their families-in war time. I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people) shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind. I've broken more international treaties than any president in U.S. history. I'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in U.S. history. My "poorest millionaire," Condoleeza Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her. I am the first president in U.S. history to order an unprovoked, pre-emptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I did so against the will of the United Nations, the majority of U.S. citizens, and the world community. I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the largest bureaucracy in the history of the United States government . I am the first president in U.S. history to have the United Nations remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission. I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law. I refused to allow inspectors access to U.S. prisoners of war" (detainees) and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva Convention. I am the first president in history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election). I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for receiving the most corporate campaign donations. My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my best friends, Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S. history. My political party used the Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my election decision. I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton against investigation or prosecution. More time and money was spent investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair than has been spent investigating one of the biggest corporate ripoffs in history. I garnered the most sympathy for the U.S. after the World Trade Center attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most hated country in the world, the largest failure of diplomacy in world history. I am first president in history to have a majority of Europeans (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and security. I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts. I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to bring Osama Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein to justice. RECORDS AND REFERENCES: All records of my tenure as Governor of Texas are now in my father's library, sealed, and unavailable for public view. All records of SEC investigations into my insider trading and my bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public view. All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-President, attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public review. Please consider my experience when voting in 2004 - Send this to every voter you know.

Re:GWB's Resume (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7686752)

You must be dizzy from all the spin. If he's doing such a bad job, why is the economy recovering, Iraq becoming a place of freedom, Afghaistan rid of the Taliban, and the Europeans begging for our 18 billion dollars, money which they were accustomed to getting from Saddam for their support of his tyranny. Fuck Europe. They'll sell out freedom for money any day. Who wants to kiss their asses. Now they're indignant about not getting our money for reconstruction when they didn't support the war in the first place. 1st class hypocrites.

Come on guys... (2, Insightful)

micantos (252195) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686599)

Grow up. Settle it by the law.

Re:Come on guys... (5, Interesting)

Atmchicago (555403) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686622)

It certainly was effectively used by the spammers to crush their enemies. I forget the name, but one of the major anti-spam websites was forcibly closed because of DDoS, and nobody was prosecuted.

Re:Come on guys... (4, Funny)

TedCheshireAcad (311748) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686643)

Well, would, but we can't e-mail them documents anymore.

Looks like Rock, Paper, Scissors is the only remaining viable solution.

Re:Come on guys... (5, Informative)

rebeka thomas (673264) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686663)

> Grow up. Settle it by the law.

Yes. SCO should do that instead of lying about their downtime []

Never Cry Wolf (3, Funny)

soloport (312487) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686664)

More like "crying wolf", people. Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them, Second Edition?!

Re:Come on guys... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7686673)

You must be talking to SCO. Looks like a typical framing or hoax. It's right up Darl's alley to do something like that.

Improper use of "Hacker" (5, Informative)

gaijin99 (143693) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686698)

Launching a DDoS does not require the slightest bit of hacking. Unless downloading and using a simple program counts as hacking. The proper term to use would have been "criminal", or perhaps "script-kiddie" (though I've always prefered "script-monkey" myself).

I expect the blatient misuse of hacker as a synonym for computer criminal in the mainstream press, but I woulda hoped that Slashdot would do better.

Re:Improper use of "Hacker" (2, Informative)

hookedup (630460) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686742)

Unless downloading and using a simple program counts as hacking

It's not like you can just download a program and have control over a pile of zombie machines. You do have to do a little bit of work. Scanning subnets, logging into machines, uploading tools, etc.. to make an 'effective' ddos net. Not just download, run, click, dead server.

Re:Come on guys... (5, Insightful)

inode_buddha (576844) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686705)

Hell, *I* use Linux and dislike SCO, but this is just a tad unprofessional. OK, I'm kinda disgusted by this behavior - it destroys a moral "high ground" that might be useful to have shortly.

Re:Come on guys... (2, Informative)

croddy (659025) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686773)

ain't no synflood at * ... click me [] .

Re:Come on guys... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7686715)

Fuck off and die retard.

Re:Come on guys... (5, Insightful)

Stefman (37546) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686716)

I don't think that DDoS and cracking is the solution, but unfortunately, the law is not always helpful either.

Look at what the use of the law did for the abuse of monopoly power by MS. It was a slap on the wrist for MS and their continued monopolistic practices.

Re:Come on guys... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7686778)

yeah, THAT works real well... ::rolls eyes::

Re:Come on guys... (1)

screenrc (670781) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686779)

SCO is already in a miserable position in
court where (as expected) they cannot show
evidence to support *their* allegations. They
are already in a down-spiral. Apparently,
the only thing it can distruct everyone from
the main issue at hand (avoidance to show
evidence) is to spread stories about Denial-attacts.
Like Linus said, if anyone has to grow up
that is Mr. McBride himself and for ESR (owr clown) who
will will not miss the spotlight to promote
himself by issuing orders (?) for linuxers
to stop the attacks(?) . Once again, it is self-promotion
in play, for McBride and ESR. Same movie again, and we have seen it
many times before.

And groklaw... (5, Informative)

gnuadam (612852) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686601)

...and the happy folks at Groklaw [] already have a statement up with arguments to effect that SCO is fibbing. They think the attack could be a hoax.

Re:And groklaw... (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7686617)

SCO's ISP has also been contacted by zdnet. Although SCO claim to have contacted them and to be working with them on the attack with law enforcement officials, it's the first they'd heard of it.

And a DDoS doesn't have a timeframe. SCO claimed they will be able to get up and going again within 12 hours. So they know it's a DDoS, and don't know who's doing it, but know when it'll stop?

Good one SCO. Makes us chuckle.

Re:And groklaw... (5, Interesting)

irokitt (663593) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686696)

You've got a very good point. A DDOS attack has no timetable for recovery. While it isn't very simial in its method, the attack described here [] helps to illustrate that, going into recovery, there is no way of predicting a timetable.

C'mon, /., check with the source next time! (4, Insightful)

FunWithHeadlines (644929) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686627)

That's right, while the rest of the mainstream media happily reported whatever SCO told them to say, despite the evidence not appearing to support the DDoS story, Groklaw posted a detailed analysis of the situation. Now was it so hard for /. admins to take a quick glance over there, the source for accurate SCO news, before just posting Yet Another SCO Spin version of the story?

Folks, if it's a SCO story, check with Groklaw before passing judgment. For every bit of FUD coming out of Linden, a blast of anti-FUD is lobbied back.

Re:C'mon, /., check with the source next time! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7686725)

If there not DDoS'ed yet, you could always /. 'em

/. admins? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7686760)


IS THAT what MSCE's grow up into?

I meant "editors" /nt (1)

FunWithHeadlines (644929) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686767)


Re:And groklaw... (4, Informative)

SkArcher (676201) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686755)

I submitted a version of this story with links to Groklaw and various technical resources and got rejected. Wish the /. editors team would pick decent story writers.

Anyhow folks, the consensus at Groklaw is that either SCO are lying through their teeth and this is all FUD, or their network admin staff are a bunch of incompetents.

There are no prizes for guessing what the /. theory will be.

In specific, the outage at started before the reported time by several hours, was already under analysis by Groklaw before the claimed time, the pattern of the servers shutoff is NOT consistent with a SYN DDOS (the claimed attack), but it is consistent with either a planned shutdown, or a network cable being unplugged.

There was no slowdown of service - see netcraft for the stats. SCO claim e-mail and other services were compromised which do not use the TCP SYN/ACK and are not therefore vulnerable to this attack (when on different servers (which they are, see groklaw for a list). remained up, despite being on the same subnet, and would respond throughout the duration of the supposed 'attack'.

The above is a synopsis of Work presented for analysis at Groklaw, any mistakes are my own, any credit is due to the authors on Groklaw and to PJ.

Perhaps Further Evidence... (5, Informative)

weston (16146) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686764)

I work in the Canopy Group office buildings at another (non-evil) company. We're all serviced by Center7 [] and the last time there was the confirmed/acknowledged DDOS attack we felt it hard. Getting to hosts outside of the building was very difficult all day.

No hiccups today. Center7 did promise last time that they could and would isolate everyone else from SCO, so there is another explanation, but...

Kinda Sad... (2, Insightful)

irokitt (663593) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686602)

I don't see how this is going to help. Knowing SCO, they might try to make themselves the martyrs and use the attacks to cast a bad light on the Linux community in general. This issue has already gotten nasty enough anyway.

Re:Kinda Sad... (1)

monadicIO (602882) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686722)

I guess next thing they'll ask IBM and all linux users to prove in court that they did not have anything to do with the DOS attack.

Re:Kinda Sad... (1)

TrombaMarina (712932) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686769)

Right on. I wouldn't put them past attacking themselves just for the publicity.

Question: If they ever caught someone who DOS'd them, would they be able to prove monetary damages? If anything, attacks like this help SCO's legal offensive. And it's not as if the attacks are limiting their customer service in any way... beyond making it slightly harder for their customers to find out how much SCO is suing them for.

bad image (0, Redundant)

TedCheshireAcad (311748) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686603)

...Because this really makes the Linux community look like upstanding citizens.

Well, this IS America, where a small group of undesirables can spoil it for everyone.

Re:bad image (3, Insightful)

TheLinuxSRC (683475) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686700)

I thought the same thing.

I mean, what the hell is " apparently by hackers unhappy with the company's legal threats against users of the Linux operating system" supposed to mean? I think that is a dangerous assumption. After all, it is probably Windows machines that are the 'bots, right?

Re:bad image (1)

Mr Guy (547690) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686754)

You're right. Currently, we refer to them as SCO.

A classy move last time this happened... (5, Interesting)

tcopeland (32225) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686604) Eric S. Raymond [] .

He makes it clear that SCO is attacking everyone, but he opposes DOS'ing them saying that "the open source community must use the truth, not criminal methods, as its weapons." Nicely done

Re:A classy move last time this happened... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7686739)

Say hello to my little friend, the Truth. *katchak*

Re:A classy move last time this happened... (1)

stwrtpj (518864) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686780)

He makes it clear that SCO is attacking everyone, but he opposes DOS'ing them saying that "the open source community must use the truth, not criminal methods, as its weapons." Nicely done

I normally have a great deal of respect for ESR, but in this particular case, I think he misstepped. His statement about the hacker being "one of us" was totally wrong. No one who stoops to this sort of action is "one of us". What he should have done was distanced himself and the community from this hacker.

And again... (2, Redundant)

xactoguy (555443) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686606)

... do we have to say that this is exactly the kind of thing that we DON'T need? DDoSing them because you are unhappy with the way that they are doing things does nothing but to put a bad name on Linux, its users, and the whole issue in general. All you are doing is sinking to their level, rather than being mature and letting the battle be fought the way it should be, in court ( or, if worse come to worse, with torches and pitchforks in front of SCOs headquarters ;) ).

Re:And again... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7686736)

Except when, as groklaw has found, it's not any of 'us' sinking to 'their' level.

It's simply SCO producing more lies, and remaining at their own low level attempting to bring 'us' down.. ..down to the level where they have all the experience.

News Flash!!!!!!! (-1, Troll)

nil5 (538942) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686608)

Darl McBride's partner, Emilio Sanchez, claimed responsibility for the attacks after the two "broke up". just had to, sorry.

Or not. (5, Informative)

Meowing (241289) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686610)

There's been a ton of discussion of this on Groklaw [] today -- consensus is that either this is no attack, or their network is run by doofuses.

I am a doofus... (1)

Atmchicago (555403) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686730)

You insensitive clod!

Re:Or not. (1)

Torham (544278) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686738)

(D) all of the above

Re:Or not. (1)

WTFmonkey (652603) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686756)

Please note that the parent in no way meant
this is no attack, exclusive-or their network is run by doofuses.

Re:Or not. (1)

barzok (26681) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686759)

What, it can't be both?

I am willing to bet.... (4, Funny)

overbyj (696078) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686611)

that everytime Darl is sitting on the john dropping a deuce (of course, we know that he is full of shit) and clogs up the toilet, he blames it on a DOP (denial of plumbing) attack by Linux users!

Press release to follow.....

NEW POLL!!!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7686772)

Favorite euphemism for "dropping a deuce?"

I nominate "hanging a rope."

To quoth a popular Tom Clancy book (partially) (1)

tekiegreg (674773) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686613)

While I'd condemn the people Ddos'ing SCO. This feels like a pro choice abortion person who expresses his view by blowing up abortion clinics, while I can sympathize with the victim (in our case the Linux geeks that SCO is annoying) I can't sympathize with the method used (plugging up the site).

Though feeling sorry for SCO to the contrary requires me to reach too far deep into my dark side for that, sorry SCO you're on your own.

Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7686631)

a pro choice abortion person who expresses his view by blowing up abortion clinics

Ooops (must use preview button) (1)

tekiegreg (674773) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686655)

a Pro-LIFE abortion person who blows up abortion clinics....

I feel no sympathy for either (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7686666)

Causing collateral damage without any hope of actually having any effect at all is plain evil ... people like that are simply looking for a fight, they would be DOSing and bombing anyway but feeling self-righteous while doing it is even better.

In other news (4, Funny)

vosbert (544192) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686615)

SCO launches a lawsuit against the anonymous hackers.

Ping (4, Funny)

penguinoid (724646) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686616)

In related news, SCO caims ownership of "ping", and will licence it starting at $1000.

Re:Ping (1)

El (94934) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686651)

I thought they were using syn floods... maybe they should claim ownership of the SYN bit instead... and by the way, did open source TCP/IP stack hackers come up with ways of minimizing the impact of a DDoS years ago?

Re:Ping (1)

TedCheshireAcad (311748) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686713)

I wonder what percentage of the machines used in the attack are Linux boxes. Their supposedly own IP turned against them.


Childish. (1)

pr0ntab (632466) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686618)

But who's to say it wasn't instigated by somebody who makes linux users look like trapped animals.

Well, this ground has been tread in this forum before.

But if you know anyone who has hinted that they may be involved in something like this, you'd better re-evaluate your choice of friends.

Hint: THEY'RE l4m3 (sic)

If you're going to bother SCO, flood the official channels (phone, write letters, etc.). Don't do anything that could be considered vandalous.

This won't affect the Judge's decision... (2, Funny)

sirReal.83. (671912) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686619)

... for obvious reasons.

Simma down, now.

Error in the story (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7686621)

spokesman for the Lindon-based company

SCO is Linux-based company, not Lindon-based. What you probably meant to say is Lindows-based, but that's just plain incorrect. SCO is a Linux vendor.

Re:Error in the story (1)

apederso (619173) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686728)

That would be LINDON, Utah to the rest of us, right?

Ha Ha! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7686624)

Err, I mean, that's very unfortunate. I wish them the best of luck in this and future endeavors.

double sided (1)

xao gypsie (641755) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686632)

on one hand, i think that is funny as hell, and a little vigilante jsutice is healthy...
but ont he other hand, that makes the rest of us look really really bad. naturally, all the other antisco prognu/linux people will be pegged as those who take matters into their own hands..

but it's still pretty funny


This doesn't help (0, Redundant)

Cap'nMike (631536) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686638)

Really this kind of attack may seem funny but it doesn't really help the generally uninformed public get a good idea of the average Linux user. These kinds of attacks make us seem like a bunch of evil troublemaking teenage hackers. I thought most linux users were working towards a larger public acceptance of open source software.

Note what they're running their website on (1)

captain igor (657633) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686639)

Linux, I think that says it all, don't you?

Beware John Titor []

is this really helping our cause? (1)

a.koepke (688359) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686646)

Do the trolls that are doing this really think this is going to help the situation?

Yeah SCO are idiots, yeah they are jumping up and down screaming for attention and dribbling 100% crap but is this going to make them stop?

All this does is give them the impression that the Linux community is scared and that this is the only way we can fight them. It tells them that we are feeling guilty and are trying to keep them quiet.

Actions such as this only gives them more reason to bag the Linux community.

okay. what about linux ... (0)

_Qiang_ (560206) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686647)

that seems nothing comparing with the impack that few linux distro get hacked in and too. okay, probably not much physical damage has been done, but it still doesn't sounds good, does it? what is up with it ? has linux draw too much attention latey ?

dossed? (2, Funny)

lethalwp (583503) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686648)

Are they dossed? it seems i can't connect to . Oh Wait, maybe it is slashdotted =)

More SCO FUD (5, Informative)

RobGarth (75504) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686650) 63721614

If it is a DDoS attack, SCO are incompetent for not blocking it. Or it is just more FUD.

Self Inflicted (5, Informative)

bstadil (7110) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686652)

Head over to Netcraft News [] and see how this server "died". If this is a DDOS attach I am Queen of Spain.

You mean they reported... (5, Funny)

frostman (302143) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686653)

...a Slashdotting?


DDoS??? (0, Troll)

penguinoid (724646) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686654)

Nah, they've just been Slashdotted.

Paranoid... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7686656)

Y'know, I'm almost paranoid enough to believe that since SCO has taken a couple of hits w/ no really "buzzing" FUD that they did this to themselves. It's not like they need the site to do business or anything...

I know, I know. Utterly paranoid.

Someone tell the wannabe hackers to quit trying to fight OSS's battles, we don't want them on our side...

FUD (5, Informative)

SkArcher (676201) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686657)

This is a load of rubbish. See Groklaw [] for a much deeper and more insightful look at what really happened, a full explanation of the technicalities of the DDOS attack (claimed as a SYN attack that took up all the bandwidth and flattened their e-mail - and yet you can still get to (on same subnet), all other fed servers. Groklaw also noticed that the machine was down well before the press release claims and that it went straight down - no hiccups or other indications of a DDOS attack, just a straight gone - switched off or unplugged most likely.

See the netcraft stats for that little bit. If SCO make any claim that this is a DDOS, they are lying through their teeth and the evidence was collected as it happened - see the members zone at Groklaw for the raw Traceroute returns.

bleh (-1, Redundant)

dema (103780) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686658)

I don't see why everyone is getting in an uproar over this. if some people think DDoSing is a way to fight back, let um. It's not like it going it's help SCO defend itself. I personally think it's dumb, but that's no reason to go around saying it's going to "put a bad face on the community." Let SCO and the media twist it however they went, it has nothing at all to do with the allegations and legal issues at hand.

hackers vs crackers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7686660)

Because only hackers use Linux... not like those lame crackers who only want to be malicious and crash systems with their scripts and rooted boxes.

Not a DDoS... (5, Funny)

drdreff (715277) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686665)

It's all of those corporate Linux users beating down their door to buy licenses. Hurry and get yours today before they're all gone!

I'm sure it's all your fault. (2, Funny)

Dlugar (124619) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686669)

Come on, Slashdot ... putting SCO on the front page (multiple times sometimes) day after day after day ... and you don't call that deliberate Slashdotting^WDDoS?!

I call BS.

Expect letters from Boies and company any time now. "SCO Sues Media Giant Slashdot" the next headline?


CHECK OUT THOSE TITS! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7686676)

Pow! []

SCO will win (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7686681)

Yet another desparate attempt by the Linux community to stem off the inevitable. GNU/Linux will be ruled a n unauthorized form of UNIX and thus SCO will be awarded damages in court, as well as licensing rights to linux. They will then do the same thing to BSD.

Obligitory Tinfoil Hat Theory (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7686684)

These are the same guys that rooted the debian, fsf, and gentoo mirror box.

They are now trying to make the linux community look like crackers.

It's ironic that... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7686685)

The greatest threat to SCO's profitability TODAY is not coming from IP in Linux, but from Windows IPs.

Why? (1)

BackwardEngineer (730035) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686688)

I know that this is already covered, but I just don't comprehend why people would do DoS attacks just to prove a point. There is already a lawsuit.

Whoop-de-frickin' doo! Let the courts do their thing first. If SCO is as messed up as everyone says, then they will have no case and it will all be good in Linux Land.

Probably because of (4, Funny)

buford_tannen (555867) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686690)

This story [] apparently inspired some poor systems peon at sco to set up email autoresponse [] to the email address mentioned in the story.

I tried it, it works. At least someone at SCO has some sense of humor.

Checking the logs.. (1)

WillRobinson (159226) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686691)

We find million of attempted downloads of \\\downloads\videos\beercancrusher. avi

The True Culprit (1)

cluge (114877) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686692)

Have you used SCO UNIX? The DOS is probably SCO admins who just wished their OS could have features that have only been available in other OSes for YEARS!

Angry People Rule []

Helping out. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7686694)

You can help out by clicking here... [] .

You didn't think I meant you should help SCO out did you?...

next time ... WAIT (1)

krray (605395) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686704)

Um, "simoniker" -- you should have posted when they had suffered ... not while they're still suffering. Of course with a link back to SCO [] .

...wait for them to fix it and THEN /. them all over again. Suckers.

okay, what about linux ? (0)

_Qiang_ (560206) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686710)

i am wondering what's been up with lately few exploits to linux distro and maybe it didn't do any physical damage. but it doesn't sound good, does it? has linux been going too hype and draw too much attention now ?

How do I join? (4, Funny)

Ignorant Aardvark (632408) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686718)

How do I enlist my computer as a zombie in the horde to attack SCO?

It's not even a very good hoax (5, Informative)

iabervon (1971) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686719)

According to Groklaw [] , not only is it implausible that this is a real attack, it's not even competently done. SCO blames a SYN flood, which is trivial to ignore. Their ISP hasn't had anything to do about it. While they say their email server was down, it actually wasn't. Their FTP server on the next IP over (and on the same block of addresses) had no problems. Their internal network almost certainly isn't anywhere near their Web server, network wise, and, if it was, it would almost certainly have a firewall that's not the web server.

It's clear that SCO's run out of technical people; not only are they faking technical problems, they can't even make up a technically sound attack on their own systems.

I hear the sound of the world's smallest violin... (2, Funny)

aquarian (134728) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686721)

...playing for the sad souls at SCO...

Sad state of affairs in general (4, Insightful)

Maestro4k (707634) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686729)

Before I start I should say I absolutely condemn the DDoS against SCO, if there really is one happening.

I find it quite sad that our community has to loudly distance itself from supposed DDoS attacks and such against SCO while SCO makes a total mockery of the legal system and justice in general with their current campaign. For those who may not have noticed some earlier posts, discussion on Groklaw has brought up the possibility that this isn't a DDoS, but either just idiotic network admins on SCO's part, or perhaps even an intentional takedown to *cough* allow for a nice bit of publicity on their part. Whatever the true case is (and I'm not advocating any as the real one, I'll leave that for others to decide), SCO has certainly scored some nice negative publicity towards the OSS crowd, even if the DDoS is real and the attackers have nothing to do with OSS.

IIRC there was an earlier supposed DDoS against SCO's servers that turned out to be that the servers were just down.

In any case, it's nice to see the /. crowd (as always) advocating fair play and not using vigilante justice. Too bad SCO doesn't seem to believe in the fair play bit.

Re:Sad state of affairs in general (1)

sagarsanghani (586413) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686753)

They probably had David Boise work on their linux servers.

It happens (2, Interesting)

Dr. Nnivel (674463) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686732)

While I in no way condone this, it's to be expected. SCO is pissing off a lot of people, and this is the kind of thing that is bound to happen when geeks are rather peeved. Granted, it shouldn't happen, but neither should any criminal activity. Not everybody is as mature is *cough* the /. community here, where we all shun such actions. I'm rather surprised it hasn't happened more, actually...

That being said, SCO is probably revelling in this, even if it is genuine. In fact, DDoS is probably one of the perks to this whole thing - it makes everybody but them look bad, and they come out perfectly clean to the media. Playing the innocent little child who got their candy stolen, I dare say.

We dont need this (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7686737)

Just yesterday, I was talking to a friend, and he offhandedly called linux a "hackers OS" - a he meant it the hacker = cracker way. I asked him what he meant, and he said that the reason Microsoft has so much security problems is because linux users hate Microsoft, and so they try and create problems for Microsoft. I was floored.

I argued with him for a bit, most of it probably the same stuff you have all been through. One bit I got a kick out of was him claiming that perl was a hacker (=cracker) language, and since perl was "made for linux", that showed that linux was for hackers (=crackers).

It is pretty tough to argue logically with that, but I pointed out that you can get perl for just about any OS. He said that it was "really hard to install on Windows". I had just installed it about two weeks earlier, and it took about 15 minutes (most of that for the download).

Anyways, the reason I am writing all that is because things like DOS'ing SCO don't help perception of linux at all. Next time I argue with him, he can bring this up, and what can I say? Obviously, it is linux users doing the damage.

There is absolutely no benefit for the Free Software movement from this behavior - it only generates sympathy for SCO, and "proves" the kind of outrageous claims that SCO is making (linux users have no respect for the law ...)

Who provides SCO's technical support? (1)

shanen (462549) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686741)

Doesn't really matter how you slice it. Either SCO is staging another media event, or they are just too technically incompetent to be selling technical services. Remember, technical services or technical something-or-other is still supposed to be the real reason for the existence of the company.

However, I'll go ahead and note that I thought I might have been targeted for a DoS attack yesterday. (I have one of the best collections of political commentary online, and dittoheads are notoriously lacking in senses of humor.) Still not sure what the real cause was, but rebooting my ADSL modem took care of it. I've never seen it in such a strange state, however. The upload speed was normal, 512K, but my download is normally over a meg, and it was running at 64K.

One would certainly hope that SCO has greater technical sophistication than that... is up.... (1)

Avihson (689950) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686748)

So not a bandwidth consuming DDOS just like groklaw stated...

But then again, we are a bunch of unwashed amateurs, and THEY Wrote UNIX and know all about how to keep it secure and running...

So It must be something We are doing.

Editors, please RTFA (5, Insightful)

stwrtpj (518864) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686751)

From the article header:

For the third time this year, the SCO Group's Web site came under attack, apparently by hackers unhappy with the company's legal threats against users of the Linux operating system.

Where in the article did it say this? I certainly can't find it.

Slashdot editors might want to RTFA before approving a post. The submitter of this one got a wee bit overzealous.

SCO and the powers behind it... (2, Insightful)

Dutchmaan (442553) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686763)

Look at what SCO does to the Linux community.. fractures and bickering... Destroying something that was supposed to be moral and good for all.

One can almost feel the power of the ring at work....

If my own box was implicated in the attack... (1)

JavaScrybe (662349) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686771)

I would be glad the offender would have used it for something better than spreading out pr0n...

Sadly, it's not been compromised at all.

Boo hoo, the hacker's doing him a favour (1)

wrinkledshirt (228541) | more than 10 years ago | (#7686774)

Serious, think of it...

Take the website out, reduce the possibility of something else stupid that Darl said ending up out there for people to read. Darl should find out who this guy is and put him on his legal team.

Apologies to those who think I should be calling the guy a cracker instead of a hacker. But the guy doing it might not be white. ;)

Bull Blake (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7686777)

This is complete BS. Blake Stowell, or... You choose, both are accurate.

Groklaw has the results of analysis. In short, 1 of 2 things happened.

1. SCO misconfigured their Linux(!) web server (and thus it is affected by SYN flood)
2. SCO is full of it, and took the thing down for PR value, or less likely maintainence.

Which ever it is, SCO is the cause of the problem.
ATTN Slashdot: You guys need to attand a course in journalism. Change the title of this story, it is misleading.
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