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Slashback: Unstranding, Xecurity, Spurning

timothy posted more than 10 years ago | from the vegas-upcoming dept.

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Slashback tonight with words on the real-life security level of Mac OS X, the fate of stranded polar adventurer Jon Johanson, poetry for JenniCam, more on the Wright brothers & Co, and more. Read on for the details.

Multi-player markets are a good thing. Indiana University seems to be one of the first big fish to publicly announce a license agreement with Progeny's Transition Service. This service provides updates for RedHat 7.2, 7.3, and 8.0 beyond January 1st 2004, and RedHat 9 after May 1, 2004. According to the press release, this will allow for 'a flexible migration path as the University considers various options regarding Linux distributions during the coming year.'"

But I thought MPlayer ... Simon Bysshe writes "In response to some complaints about the WMV encoding of the recent pro-gaming film 'Intel Extreme Edition Challenge' (featured here on Slashdot). Intel have requested that the film also be encoded as a DIVX file especially for Slashdot. This divx file can now be downloaded here."

More on (At Least) 100 Years Of Powered Human Flight relbs was one of many to submit word (as reported by MIT News) of a replica of the Wright brothers' Flyer perched above the Great Dome early yesterday morning, and relbs adds a link to additional photos, too.

They had better luck getting off the ground than did those trying to actually fly a Wright flyer: CrazyTalk writes "As a follow-on to the earlier story, the much-ballyhooed attempt to recreate the first flight of the Wright's literally fell flat."

Maltese Falcon writes with another candidate for First Powered Flight. "Or was it Gustave Weiskopf (aka Gustave Whitehead)? There are many claims that he flew up to 2 yrs before the Wright Bros. NPR's report yesterday seemed to imply almost paranoia as far as a conspiracy to why the NASM only recognizes the Wrights, but this link provides more info on why this could be true. Look here for another article."

Speaking of audacious pilots, jcenters writes "An earlier Slashdot story reported that Australian adventurer Jon Johanson was trapped in Antarctica, and scientists stationed there refused to sell him fuel. Reuters is reporting that Johanson has now obtained fuel from a British rival, but weather conditions are preventing his departure. Johanson hopes to leave by the end of the weekend."

BlameFate writes that "British adventurer, Polly Vacher has allowed Johanson to use her pre-stored fuel at the base after her expedition was forced to be cancelled. Fox News has the scoop. Choice quote from the head of NZ's Antarctic Research dept: 'Polly's trip was well organized and properly planned,' he said. 'It is ironic that she is now assisting a stranded pilot who embarked upon an ill-prepared and secret flight over the South Pole.'"

If something happens in Berkeley, does it count as a "real world" experience? codythefreak writes to deflect certain barbs lately directed at the security level of Mac OS X: "Working as a sysadmin at UC Berkeley's Residential Computing, since we serve more than 6,000 clients living in the dorms, we tend to know the major computing trends. There are 5,120 registered Windows XP machines in our system, and our staff have logged 2,452 duty logs to assist them (about one in two). On the other hand, there are 341 Mac OS X machines, and only 56 duty logs (about one in six). If we restrict these to virus and security related duty logs: Windows XP has 491 (about one in ten) and OS X has 2 (less than one in a hundred)!"

(See also this well-reasoned response to the recent OS X criticism.)

Was it the tail? Really, is the pointy tail a deal-breaker? Mister.de points out this Seattle Post-Intelligencer story which says "VMware Inc., a business-software maker that is being acquired by EMC Corp. for $635 million, turned down an offer last year from Microsoft Corp.

'"We were unable to come to terms, so they bought out our distant competitor, Connectix" Corp., said Diane Greene, VMware's chief executive officer and co-founder.'"

Alas, we hardly knew ye. dlc3007 writes "The Register has published the results of the JenniCam Poetry Competition. There is little funnier in the world than creative geeks pouring their hearts and souls into 'a haiku or limerick lamenting the demise of JenniCam.'" I can think of some things ...

Battlestar Galactica 2003: Series Highly Likely, Say Recent Rumors Cliff writes: "Syfy Portal reports that officials for the Sci-Fi channel are likely to announce that the new Battlestar Galactica will become a series, most likely to air as early as Summer of 2004. No official announcement has yet been made, but since the 'mini-series' is Sci-Fi channel's third highest rated program, it is assumed that such an announcement will be made before the end of 2003, if they are going to keep options on the major actors. Personally, I'm looking forward to the show, as long as they stay away from monkeys in robot-dog suits!"

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228 comments

Don't forget... (-1)

SCO$699FeeTroll (695565) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759008)

...to pay your $699 licensing fee you cock-smoking teabaggers.

Re:Don't forget... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759056)

how do you smoke a cock?

Which end would you light, and which end should be sucked ?

Re:Don't forget... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759183)

Suck the end that makes the little boy giggle. That's what CmdrTaco does.

more boring news (-1, Offtopic)

nil5 (538942) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759013)

frist tosp? wtf!?

Who posts first (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759025)

Gets the -1, troll in honour!

dirth post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759033)

am i #3 baby? mod me up!

And let's not forget (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759034)

The news of the day:
[com.com]
Real is suing Microsoft for abusing its OS monopoly in digital audio/video markets

HOW THE FUCK IS THE PARENT COMMENT A TROLL? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759176)

Offtopic, perhaps, but I figured you slashbots would be jizzing over that news (for once, instead of jizzing over tenticle rape anime porn).

Re:HOW THE FUCK IS THE PARENT COMMENT A TROLL? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759195)

Nothing is offtopic on Slashback, that's why they have Slashback.

Re:And let's not forget (1)

bigjocker (113512) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759230)

How is the parent a Troll?

Please somebody mod this up, it's a great read

Re:And let's not forget (1)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759309)

"How is the parent a Troll?"

Probably because these cases only seem to pop up when a company is teetering on the edge of going out of business.

Pollys quote was a little different... (4, Informative)

Space cowboy (13680) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759072)

The BBC had her standing up for the stranded Jon, although interestingly enough, the new page (just checked it) hasn't got the quote on it any more. It went something like "Jon's flight was as carefully planned as mine, and it was the highly unseasonal winds that caused us both problems".

It just seems to me as though there's a lot more going on behind the scenes than the scientists out there are all admitting to...

Simon.

Re:Pollys quote was a little different... (1)

Nasarius (593729) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759216)

Or it's just the usual Fox News idiocy. They're not a source I would trust to properly present any kinda of news. Even someone who agrees with their politics has to admit they run a lot of junk news.

Completely outdated article (3, Informative)

quinkin (601839) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759307)

Outdated article - see ABC News [abc.net.au] for the latest, and even that is a few days old.

Q.

Re:Pollys quote was a little different... (1)

dcam (615646) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759312)

The quote is:
Of Mr Johanson's predicament, she added: "There are no rules to prevent you flying non-stop over Antarctica.

"He had enough fuel and reserve fuel based on the weather forecast and all the planning that we had done but what he encountered were winds that were not forecast by anybody."

Story here [bbc.co.uk]

Re:Pollys quote was a little different... (2, Interesting)

andynz (686071) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759385)

We saw a lot of coverage of this in NZ. He struck head winds soon after he left NZ, and would have known very early on that there was no way he was going to make it to Argentina. He planned to land at Scott Base the whole time.

Also, he was scarcely stranded. He had been offered a ride back to NZ in an Air Force Hercules, and he could have arranged to have the plane shipped back later.

When he did get the fuel, it is telling that he did not continue on to Argentina as per his 'plan', but went straight back to NZ. I had no sympathy for this individual and applaud the stance of the NZ and US governments.

I am sick and tired of so-called 'adventurers' depending on other people to help when they almost invariably get into trouble (another adventurer [nzherald.co.nz] recently got into trouble and had to be rescued by a NZ government ship at considerable taxpayer expense).

/ back! (4, Funny)

Metallic Matty (579124) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759079)

Well folks, that's it for Slashback Forum. Now standby for Battlestar Galatica Forum.

Puts on Robot Helmet.

(Robot Voice) Welcome to Battlestar Galatica Forum.

Re:/ back! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759090)

This is what happens when you have karma to burn.

Re:/ back! (1)

oldwolf13 (321189) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759141)

Are you kidding?

All Family Guy related quotes shood be modded up +6

Re:/ back! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759334)

Yeah....and KISS sucks!

Re:/ back! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759186)

by your command

Ack (0, Offtopic)

cscx (541332) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759081)

Polly reminds me of my 12th grade English teacher... creepy!

Expert Advice (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759083)

Whether you are attending a private sex party or a public club, there are some good manners that should be followed. Obviously these rules will vary for different parties, but here are a few good rules to follow so that you don't become an unwanted guest and never get invited back again.
  • Don't be a sling lizard - In other words, don't get into a sling unless you have a play partner. And if slings are limited, give other people a change to use the sling.
  • Lay down paper towels on the floor before playing to collect any spilled lubrication. You may also want to place a paper towel under the bottoms butt. Wipe off the play area and the bottom completely before leaving the play area. It is the tops responsibility to make sure the lube is wiped off the bottoms butt and that the floor and sling or table is wiped off and clean for the next person.
  • Ask your host what the house rules are This includes where you are allowed to play and what supplies you should bring (I always bring my own lube, beverage, paper towels and other party supplies to private parties). At THE SLING you can bring your own lube or we sell it there. Bring your own beer if desired, we provide sodas, paper towels, gloves, condoms and shower. For all parties it's polite to bring your own towel in case you want to shower
  • Don't just walk up to a play session and join in It's best to try to get some eye contact to see if they want you to join in. It can be very distracting to be in a scene and have somebody just join in especially if you don't want them there.
  • Keep unnecessary conversation and noises out of the play area Try not to have regular conversations where people playing can hear you. Also, if you are a screaming or make loud noises during play, this may disturb other guests. Some people enjoy the loud moans and groans but many find it disturbing.
  • If you move any equipment around return it to the original spot when done For example, if you raise or lower the sling, return it to where it was when you got there. Or if you move a table or chair, return it.
  • Do not share lube. This can lead to the transmission of HIV and other diseases. The cans can become contaminated while playing so it's good to write you name on the jar of crisco or lube.
  • Wash off hands and arms and dick when done playing Preferrably with an antibacterial soap.
  • Don't walk around the party in street clothes or be a gawkerAt most play parties the guys are usually in jocks or chaps so that their butts are exposed
Proper Fisting Technique Photograph [nero-online.org]

Re:Expert Advice (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759095)

What's a sling?

sling1 ( P ) Pronunciation Key (slng)
n.

1.
1. A weapon consisting of a looped strap in which a stone is whirled and then let fly.
2. A slingshot.
2. A looped rope, strap, or chain for supporting, cradling, or hoisting something, especially:
1. A strap of a shoe that fits over the heel.
2. A strap used to carry a rifle over the shoulder.
3. Nautical. A rope or chain that attaches to the mast and supports a yard.
4. A band suspended from the neck to support an injured arm or hand.
3. The act of hurling a missile.

JenniCam Winners (5, Funny)

radicalskeptic (644346) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759092)

They have about 20 or more poems up on the Register website, so for those of you who are too lazy to wade through to the two winners:

Jennicam is dead
good. For so many reasons
voyeurs sob. goodbye.

Jennicam is dead.
Good for so many reasons.
Voyeurs sob goodbye.

and...

We wanted to see Jenni's muff
But PayPal's now said that's enough
So no view of the rug
'Cause they've pulled the plug
Fuck PayPal, they can get stuffed

This should have been the winner.. (4, Funny)

utahjazz (177190) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759342)

Evening shadows fall
Heart! betray me not again!
Will I see a tit?

DIVX != MPEG4 (5, Insightful)

MobyDisk (75490) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759094)

Can we stop calling all MPEG4 video "DIVX?" It is quite annoying. It would be like calling all operating systems "Windows." I am downloading the file now, and it may indeed be compressed with DIVX, but it should be called an MPEG-4 video since that is the final output format, regardless of the AVI FOURCC marker. Maybe we should call "HTML" "MicroSoft Web Content" if I use Microsoft Notepad to generate it, but "Emacs Markup-language" if I use Emacs.

Sorry, pet peeve, I'm done now.

Re:DIVX != MPEG4 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759130)

Ok....

as long as we can call all phags 'Mobydisks' ... /AnalDiamondProducer

Re:DIVX != MPEG4 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759194)

Oh your just jealous of how uber MPEG-4 is.

Re:DIVX != MPEG4 (1)

devphil (51341) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759229)


Actually, I'm glad you mentioned this, because I had no clue what DIVX was. I read the article and was like, "I don't [penny-arcade.com] have [penny-arcade.com] a [penny-arcade.com] DivX [penny-arcade.com] player, oh [penny-arcade.com] well [penny-arcade.com] ."

If the /. "editors" actually lived to to their claimed titles, they could correct these things.

Re:DIVX != MPEG4 (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759279)

Slashdot editors do not modify the content of submissions. They never have and never will.

Re:DIVX != MPEG4 (5, Informative)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759409)

"I am downloading the file now, and it may indeed be compressed with DIVX, but it should be called an MPEG-4 video since that is the final output format, regardless of the AVI FOURCC marker."

MPEG4 files (i.e. files generated so that any MPEG4 compliant viewer can play them) have the extension MP4. DivX is a mutated version of MPEG4, thus it deserves the seperate distinction.
In other words, I'm having trouble seeing the justification of your nitpick here.

"Maybe we should call "HTML" "MicroSoft Web Content" if I use Microsoft Notepad to generate it, but "Emacs Markup-language" if I use Emacs."

This is a bad example. There is, however, code that only works in IE and not in other browsers. It's code that only works in IE, so it wouldn't be all that improper to informally call it MSML. Nobody's doing that, but it'd be hard to nail them on it.

It's all about standards compliance here, and DivX does not conform to Mpeg4. You have to tell it specifically to make an MPEG4 file, and when it does, it saves it with the MP4 extension.

So, yeah, save it for when somebody calls an MP4 file DivX.

Re:DIVX != MPEG4 (2, Informative)

parkanoid (573952) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759549)

Uhm, what? DivX is a derivative of MPEG4, not just a tool for producing open standard-compliant files - as a text editor would be in your case - as you can see on DivX networks' page [divx.com] .

Re:DIVX != MPEG4 (3, Informative)

evilviper (135110) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759611)

Can we stop calling all MPEG4 video "DIVX?"

I don't think anyone is calling MPEG4 video (in a modified MOV/MP4 container with AC3 audio) a Divx file.

OTOH, what everyone *is* calling a Divx file, is very specific... Divx is MPEG4 video, fit into an AVI container, and almost always with MPEG-1 Layer3 audio. I think the designation "Divx" is quite appropriate for that.

Battlestar Galactica (1)

Goo.cc (687626) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759097)

I expected to hate SciFi's Battlestar Galactica but I ended up loving it. Still, I would prefer SciFi to do Battlestar Galactica as a series of miniseries rather than a regular series, since I feel that the quality of the show could not be maintained as such.

Re:Battlestar Galactica (1)

Daniel Dvorkin (106857) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759159)

I'm actually pretty optimistic. I was blown away by the BG miniseries, after expecting it to be absolute shit -- but the things I didn't like about it were mainly rough edges that I suspect will be nicely worn away in a series format, as the actors get more comfortable in their roles.

Saddam? (-1, Offtopic)

SexyKellyOsbourne (606860) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759100)

What, no mention of Saddam in this week's slashback? The story attacted nearly 3000 posts, and was a pivotal moment in world affairs.

The main news is that Bush wants the death penalty for Saddam, while the UN and the Catholic Church both strongly oppose it. Saddam is currently in the hands of the CIA for interrogation. The trial is going to be in Iraq, as well, and the council has been laying the groundwork. Howard Dean is also no longer the front runner in the Democratic primaries, and the Democratic candidates are scrambling to be the non-Dean.

FUCK OFF, EKROUT (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759157)

Re:Saddam? (0, Offtopic)

erlenic (95003) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759198)

Does anyone really give a shit what the catholic church has to say about it? They're not even in the UN.

Re:Saddam? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759375)

what were they supposed to say?

"Sadam still in custody. US still violating human rights by making a spectacle of him." ?

These nerds have nothing better to do than stay (0)

unterderbrucke (628741) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759102)

home and write poems to some internet girl.

Whoa.

Re:These nerds have nothing better to do than stay (0)

cscx (541332) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759139)

Whoa. [mudmystic.com]

BitTorrent link for Extreme Edition Challenge? (1)

DrunkenTerror (561616) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759112)

Who got the goods?

Isn't it ironic?? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759123)

Actually, it isn't ironic. It makes sense that someone who planned their trip well would have the capacity to help out some who was ill-prepared.

As usual, they completely misused the term "ironic".

Alanis Morrisette: +1
English language: -1

Re:Isn't it ironic?? (1)

El (94934) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759539)

You're saying the song should have been named "Isn't it pathetic" instead?

Dodgy data (5, Insightful)

m00nun1t (588082) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759127)

They are using the number of support calls to determine the security of an OS? Maybe the fact that they are using OSX immediately indicates that in many cases they are a more technical user and so are less likely to need support.

The unwashed masses don't make a choice, and thus get WinXP by default - of course they will need more support.

Re:Dodgy data (1)

Eyes666 (204224) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759182)

Uh...aren't Macs known for their ease of use? I would guess that is more of a factor than having a more 'technical' ownership group.

Re:Dodgy data (5, Interesting)

Carnildo (712617) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759185)

They are using the number of support calls to determine the security of an OS? Maybe the fact that they are using OSX immediately indicates that in many cases they are a more technical user and so are less likely to need support.

Macintosh computers are marketed towards people who are new to using computers, and to the casual user. If anything, Mac users tend to be less technical than the general population.

Re:Dodgy data (1)

Grimster (127581) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759221)

Yeah both people I know who use Macs are total newbies to computers so there's your proof!

Re:Dodgy data (1)

Tadrith (557354) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759267)

One could also make the statement that because Macs are marketed toward (and purportedly purchased by) those who know nothing about computers, they are less likely to go on wild adventures in their operating systems, unlike those who use Windows who may or may not be technically savvy.

Re:Dodgy data (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759299)

I think when it come's down to it more MAC user's that I still know are useing OS9.

I wouldnt be surprised if almost all non technical MAC user's immediately switch there machine's over to 9 as soon as they arrive.

os9 is for non technical user's and osx is for the geek's

Re:Dodgy data (2, Insightful)

Night Goat (18437) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759242)

Since when are Mac OS X users assumed to be more technical? You don't need to know shit about computers to use OS X. Sure, you CAN do some pretty technical stuff with it, but your average college student is going to be writing papers and, if they're art students, doing some Photoshop or using some other specialized programs. They're not going to be any more technically inclined than their Windows-using classmates.
OS X is as easy to use (in my opinion) as the previous Mac OSes were. There's just a lot more going on behind the scenes in OS X.

Re:Dodgy data (3, Interesting)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759291)

" Maybe the fact that they are using OSX immediately indicates that in many cases they are a more technical user and so are less likely to need support."

I would add that if they're using OSX, they're probably using it for a very specific reason, illustration for example. If all that Mac does is run Illustrator all day, then no, you're not going to need a lot of support calls on it unless something fails.

Anyway, the point of my post isn't to defend XP, but merely to point out that these numbers aren't qualified well enough to draw any real conclusions. An OSX zealot could bend them into the shape of "Windows is a crappy bug riddled OS", whereas a Windows zealot could spin it like "OSX has less software, therefore it has fewer chances to break." The truth is probably somewhere in the middle, but since we don't know much more than the most drastic numbers in the vaguest sense, it would be ill advised to take this data and try to win an argument with it.

Uh dude, mac's selling point is simplicity (4, Interesting)

goombah99 (560566) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759300)

Mac's are so simple your grandma can use them. Heck even a theater arts major or political sci major can use them. Arguing that only sophisticated users use macs is oddly both crazy....and true. Its the same reason that both diserning car owners/racers and people who know nothing about car owners exept they want something sexy that works buy BMWs, mercedes and volvos.

Windows people buy Pontiac Firebirds thinking they are powerful but really getting 4 cylinder peice of maintinence hell.

linux users are like fiat owners. And people who re-program their honda's computers. Fun cars if you can keep up with the tweaking and constant search for parts.

by the way did any one read that rebuttal on the DNS security hole. After you get past the neener neener bit the discussion on the DNS protocol makes the guy who reported it and the Slashdotters who slammed mac look like total idiots.

Re:Uh dude, mac's selling point is simplicity (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759340)

> Mac's are so simple your grandma can use them. Heck
> even a theater arts major or political sci major can use
> them.

Persenally Ive had to teach many people how to use computer's, and the one that everyone turns out as likeing more is KDE. Not Windows or supposed to be simple 'OSX' but KDE on LINUX!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe all the MAC user's just like it because it work's the same as other OS9 and before but when it come's to real ease of use I'll take KDE ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's hillarious: fiat = linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759343)

Let's take a poll. State below the OS you prefer, the car you most admire, and the car you actually drive.

Re:That's hillarious: fiat = linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759389)

Mac OS , BWM, 97 pathfinder.

Re:That's hillarious: fiat = linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759411)

Linux, prowler, Electric Scooter

Re:That's hillarious: fiat = linux (1)

WinterSolstice (223271) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759509)

OS X, Corvette Stingray, Corvette Stingray

Some of us are just lucky, I guess :) I bought precisely what I wanted... in both cases.

-WS

Re:That's hillarious: fiat = linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759532)

Gentoo linux, honda insight (gas/electric hybrid), 12-speed

Re:That's hillarious: fiat = linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759574)

OSX, Falcon GT, Falcon GT.

Re:Dodgy data (1)

BlueSteel (597448) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759305)

Mac users more technical? HA! I happen to remember when our Creative Director called me at home because he couldn't get on the internet. His description of the problem?
"Uh, the big blue 'e' went away"
... Apparently he had pulled IE out of the dock.

Just like reading what I posted (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759131)

Subject says it all.

Berkeley (3, Funny)

SpacePunk (17960) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759145)

Nothing there counts as a 'real world' experience.

Re:Berkeley (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759205)

so that time at that party when i was really drunk and gave some dude a handjob doesn't count?

sweet. heterosexuality, here i come!

Pointy Tail? (2, Funny)

kramer2718 (598033) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759146)

Was it the tail? Really, is the pointy tail a deal-breaker?

Hmmm. I don't get it? The header seemed to refer to some potential BSD deal that was quashed, but the story is talking about VMWare, Microsoft and EMC Corp.

What gives? Did I miss something?

Re:Pointy Tail? (1)

applef00 (574694) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759218)

Was it the tail? Really, is the pointy tail a deal-breaker?
Hmmm. I don't get it? The header seemed to refer to some potential BSD deal that was quashed, but the story is talking about VMWare, Microsoft and EMC Corp.
What gives? Did I miss something?
I don't know if you're being serious or not. So I'll answer seriously. I believe that they are referring to the fact that many on Slashdot view Microsoft in general and Bill Gates in particular, as Satan. Satan is generally depicted as having a pointy tail.

Re:Pointy Tail? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759226)

sigh...
Microsoft=Satan joke

Steam powered engines? (4, Informative)

stubear (130454) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759167)

According to the piece Discovery Channel was running on the Wright Flyer yesterday (Dec. 17th), the Wright Brothers specifically steered away from steam powered engines because it took roughly 100 lbs. per horsepower and tehy wanted 8 horse power from each engine. That would have been a whopping 1600 lbs. for the engines alone. They wound up developing an gas powered aluminum engine similar to the ones Henry Ford was developing at the time as well. The engines painstakingly recreated for the replica weighed in at 170lbs. a piece and produced about 14 horse power each. Either Whitehead discovered a way to magically make significantly lighter steam-powered engines or the Discovery Channel show was grossly wrong in their estimates.

Engine_s_? (1)

ldspartan (14035) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759451)

...

The 1903 flyer had one engine. The props were counter rotating and chain driven. They were bicycle guys, remember? :)

--
lds

Re:Engine_s_? (2, Informative)

stubear (130454) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759618)

You're right. I forgot they linked the two props via chains to a single engine. Regardless, this would have been an 800 lbs. engine and even that was far too heavy.

Funnier than a... (5, Funny)

pixelgeek (676892) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759172)

-- -- There is little funnier in the world than creative geeks pouring their hearts and souls into 'a haiku or limerick lamenting the demise of JenniCam.'"

-- I can think of some things ...

"Full body cavity searches" is an easy start to what would turn out to be a pretty lengthy list.

Must be some new definition of "well-reasoned..." (4, Insightful)

mellon (7048) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759189)

So the well-reasoned article explaining why Apple's way of doing things is okay basically says "they're following RFC2131, so they're okay." But it is a well-known and much-lamented fact that DHCP provides no security. So if you depend on DHCP to be secure, you are not secure. At all. That's not well-reasoned, at least in my book.

I'm sorry, but saying "but the RFC doesn't provide security, so it's not our fault that our setup isn't secure" is no good. The mistake Apple is making is precisely that if you try to build a secure system whose security depends on a non-secure protocol, you can't possibly wind up with a system that's secure.

This has nothing to do with Microsoft, and everything to do with bad system design. It'd be fine if Apple was using DHCP to get the address of the LDAP server, and then verifying the identity of the LDAP server, but they aren't currently doing this. This is what's missing. It is really, honest to god, a problem that Apple is shipping systems wide open like this. It is easy for me to get root on your laptop if you haven't disabled LDAP passwords (which are enabled by default) and you bring it onto an open network.

I agree with the general idea that the PC guy who wrote the article was out of line, but that doesn't mean we should turn a blind eye to an actual security problem just because it's on MacOS X and not on Windows. If we do that often enough, we'll be fulfilling this guy's prophecy.

And I'm sorry, but I don't care if leaving this security hole makes Macs a tiny bit easier to administer. Get over it. The first time someone compromises all the Macs on your network by setting up a fake LDAP/DHCP service, you'll be wishing you'd had the opportunity to spend a minute longer setting up each shiny new Mac in exchange for spending an hour less rebuilding each compromised Mac.

Re:Must be some new definition of "well-reasoned.. (3, Informative)

ahunter (48990) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759382)

If someone can install DHCP servers on your network, then it's *ALREADY* *COMPROMISED*. In short, your security is already crap, so a couple of extra compromised macs is not going to make a huge amount of difference.

Plus, if you're willing to spend an extra minute setting up security, you could always use it to turn the damn option off. It's not exactly hard. You get a whole 55 seconds left over to do other things. Like maybe securing that damn XP box that people keep installing rogue DHCP servers on. Yeesh, treat the cause, not the symptoms.

Re:Must be some new definition of "well-reasoned.. (3, Informative)

mellon (7048) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759560)

DHCP is a broadcast protocol. Any device connected to the network can be a DHCP server, and there is no way to prevent it unless you have a really smart managed network. Smart managed networks are nice, but by no means ubiquitous. BTW, I actually wrote the book on this... :')

The problem is that the average user never reads bugtraq, and has no idea that s/he needs to do something special to avoid getting rooted while drinking a latte at Starbucks.

Re:Must be some new definition of "well-reasoned.. (2, Insightful)

Lars T. (470328) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759496)

Yeah, why does Apple use open standards, when everybody knows they are not secure. In case you've missed the point of the article, it was "DHCP is known to be insecure".

Re:Must be some new definition of "well-reasoned.. (2, Informative)

mellon (7048) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759602)

Kerberos is also an open standard. Apple actually supports Kerberos, but configures its systems to use LDAP for security by default, thus unfortunately not taking advantage of the secure open standard that they could be using. :'(

DivX vs. Ogg Media (3, Funny)

Noksagt (69097) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759211)

They made a DivX file just for slashdot? I would have thought this crowd would rather have had Ogg Media files.

Re:DivX vs. Ogg Media (1)

DeltaSigma (583342) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759293)

Uhm... Vorbis is ready, I don't think the overall media project is...

Re:DivX vs. Ogg Media (1)

evilviper (135110) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759572)

I would have thought this crowd would rather have had Ogg Media files.

Theora is still only in Alpha.

OS X Xecurity (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759223)

You know what that say about statisticX?

U R ALL TEH GHEY FAGGORTS!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759234)

all your base are belong to us!!!

Death to you stupid ass /.-ers and I hope an African Swollow pisses on your head!!! /sig
Go FUCK yourself ASSWHIPES

WTF? (1)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759250)

"Personally, I'm looking forward to the show, as long as they stay away from monkeys in robot-dog suits!"

What was wrong with the daggit? Was this an attempt at humor, or did people genuinely hate that machine?

Re: Daggit Sucked? (1)

Jonah Hex (651948) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759587)

"Personally, I'm looking forward to the show, as long as they stay away from monkeys in robot-dog suits!"
What was wrong with the daggit? Was this an attempt at humor, or did people genuinely hate that machine?
I was 7 when BSG first came out, definately one of the viewers targeted by Boxey and the "stupid daggit". It definately was one of my least favorite things about the shows, hell I knew real dogs were faster, more agile, and in thier own way smarter than the robot dog. So whenever it got any screen time I'd get annoyed, and when he played a major part in any plot (the Lassie schtich) I'd get pissed; and I pretty much still feel that way.

I will say that the new Boxey seems like a decent enough choice, and I liked his performance in the mini, however I may change my mind once the series gets going and he inevitably gets a new robot dog.

Jonah Hex

Simillar experience with Mac security. (3, Informative)

n()_cHIEFz (203036) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759280)

I worked at the technical support desk for the university I attend. I don't have any hard numbers to give but from my experience there about 99% of the calls for assitance were for machines running Windows. I never once in the two years I worked for the help desk had a call about a Mac virus, or worm. Almost all calls concerning Mac were problems with our long range etherenet and OS X computers not getting an IP address properly from the DHCP server without a reboot. There just wasn't anything to troubleshoot with Mac's they just seemed to work.

And no I'm no Mac zealot, although I use them quite a bit (I now work for the UNIX System Admin group and there are quite a few Xserves popping up around campus).

Re:Simillar experience with Mac security. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759376)

Where I work there are 20x Windows IT people to Mac IT people, yet the number of macs and windows machine is around a 1:3 ratio. The mac people also double as Linux support since they are more intelligent. So what happens when they have meetings?

the windows people argue that we need to standardize on one platform and want to take a vote. Of course they outnumber the mac people so the vote always comes down to Windows, for exactly the wrong reasons!

Fortunatley despite several orders to standardize the endusers ignored them. The reason the end users could do this is that the mac people can live in environments where they get little to no IT support. Not true of windows people who poop their pants trying to network a computer in place where win98, win200 and XP all keep trying to overwrite the printers configurations and no one can find a driver that works with all their software.

Berkeley and "real world" experience (4, Interesting)

User 956 (568564) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759329)

codythefreak writes to deflect certain barbs lately directed at the security level of Mac OS X: "Working as a sysadmin at UC Berkeley's Residential Computing, since we serve more than 6,000 clients living in the dorms, we tend to know the major computing trends. There are 5,120 registered Windows XP machines in our system, and our staff have logged 2,452 duty logs to assist them (about one in two). On the other hand, there are 341 Mac OS X machines, and only 56 duty logs (about one in six). If we restrict these to virus and security related duty logs: Windows XP has 491 (about one in ten) and OS X has 2 (less than one in a hundred)!"

I was a sysadmin at Berkeley for 5 years.

I have the following observations: 1. The attitude of Windows users was less snobbish (i.e., they viewed their computer as a tool, not a fashion accessory),

2. There were less Macs, resulting in less assistance tickets for that platform, but the amount of time we spent dealing with each Mac issue was far greater than the amount of time. This was usually due to the fact that Apple had made some change, rendering recent hardware (~2 years) useless. (i.e. changes like dropping floppies, dropping SCSI, extremely poor hardware support with the launch of OS X, the OS 9/OS X dual boot requirement, shoddy DVD/USB support in OS X.0, etc)

3. We kept all machines patched, firewalled, and up-to-date with antiviral software, so viruses were not an issue.

Your Mileage May vary, of course.

Re:Berkeley and "real world" experience (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759366)

You have insulted the almighty APPLE. Prepare to be modded down into oblivion!

Spare us the lecture (3, Insightful)

festers (106163) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759332)

the head of NZ's Antarctic Research dept: 'Polly's trip was well organized and properly planned,' he said. 'It is ironic that she is now assisting a stranded pilot who embarked upon an ill-prepared and secret flight over the South Pole.'"

First of all, DAD, that's not ironic. I guess English skills are suffering down in the NZ research department? Second, she did the moral thing while the rest of you stood around with an over-inflated parent complex. Even Polly admitted that Jon's trip was not any worse planned than hers, but that crap happens and you have to deal with it. It's not like he was asking for a free handout. Next time, save your lectures for your kids.

Re:Spare us the lecture (3, Funny)

moncyb (456490) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759433)

Next time, save your lectures for your kids.

Oh yeah, I can imagine.

8 year old son: Dad, I'm hungry. I haven't eaten for three days.

"Dad": Well son, you should've been more prepared. See? Look, I have all this food because I came into this world prepared. You don't have any because you didn't bother to prepare. Lazy bum.

Re:Spare us the lecture (1)

Bitsy Boffin (110334) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759523)

They didn't have fuel (100LL) to give him even if they wanted to, the only avgas there was Polly's and not thiers to sell.

This guy was ill prepared he didn't even notify McMurdo that he was going to be attempting a polar overflight and that he would be using thier strip in an emergency. He didn't even call to McMurdo as he passed overhead on his way to the pole.

He may have thought he was prepared, but by the fact that the situation became what it was, he was decidedly unprepared.

I'm not saying he wasn't a good pilot, or his plane wasn't up to the task (it certainly was), or even that he didn't know what he was doing. But he sure as hell didn't let the right people know of his intentions.

First to fly.. (2, Interesting)

zcat_NZ (267672) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759339)

God forbid that anyone outside of the USA might have ever been first at anything [salon.com]

Re:First to fly.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759388)

Perhaps if they worked together? "If I see farther than anyone else, it is only because I stand on the shoulders of Giants" -???

Re:First to fly.. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759392)

Die, kiwi jackass. Insult pansy countries like France all you want, but don't step to this or you'll get smacked down Ike Turner-style.

Re:First to fly.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759466)

Thank-you, Mr. GNAA President.

Re:First to fly.. (1)

zulux (112259) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759489)

It all depens on what you think of a "Fligh":

If you think flight = "Man bouncing around the air, followed by a horrable crash into the ground" then Richard William Pearse is your man.

If you think flight = "Man in a controlled flight followd by a gentle landing" than the Writes are your men.

Re:First to fly.. (1)

blair1q (305137) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759581)

Nothing in there gives any provenance to the preexisting flight. Dick himself says it was in 1905. I suspect dingoes at his camera.

The wonders of statistics. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7759463)

It sure would be nice if when mentioning "Mac Security" they noted that their are also a serious lack of security professionals doing vulnerability research on "Mac OS X". I think this is probably more of a factor than some random person's anecdotal experience.

The Year That Made Larry Lessig an Optimist (1)

Stirling S Newberry (677655) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759531)

Lessig audio interview here: http://www.bopnews.com/archives/000093.html

im shocked (2, Funny)

kemapa (733992) | more than 10 years ago | (#7759562)

Usually anytime there is an apple bashing article or a response to an apple bashing article (as seen in the last few days and in this slashback), there is at least one person who claims to work for apple and is posting anonymously. So anonymous apple informant, did anyone get fired this time? did apple find weapons of mass destruction? i know this will get modded down, but seriously, some fanboys really need to get a grip... i mean when was the last time you saw some who supposedly worked for microsoft anonymously posting? Or someone saying "I work for Linus and the volunteer programmer has been fired"
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