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Firefly DVD Set Released

michael posted more than 10 years ago | from the consume dept.

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Richard M. Nixon writes "As previously reported the DVD set for Joss Whedon's ill fated Western/Space Opera is now available. The DVD has all 11 episodes that aired, 3 episodes that didn't air, commentary on 7 episodes, and lots of bonus features including Joss singing the Firefly theme. It would make a nice Christmas gift for any Whedon fan who has not already run out and bought it. If DVD Sales are good enough, could we see a second season?"

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Little late? (5, Interesting)

DetrimentalFiend (233753) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769072)

Wow, this news sure is late for Slashdot. It came out a few weeks ago, I think.

Anyway, it'll be interesting to see if firefly sells enough to come back. I heard that fox started thinking about bringing Family Guy back after its DVD sales did so well, so maybe there is a real chance for Firefly.

Re:Little late? (2, Informative)

showler (619356) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769119)

It would sell better if the stupid-ass stores had it in stock. It's harder to find the DVD set than it was to find the show when it was on Fox.

Re:Little late? (1)

DetrimentalFiend (233753) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769152)

I ordered my copy a few days ago from amazon and it shipped right away. Should be here by Christmas.

goto Target... (1)

cnelzie (451984) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769193)

I love using goto statements...

Anyway, joking aside, I did see a boatload of them on the shelves while out shopping last week... They were right there with all the Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel DVD Sets.

Good luck...

Re:Little late? (5, Interesting)

koganuts (526569) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769204)

Even Tim Minear [imdb.com] , who worked on Firefly, couldn't find the DVDs [buffistas.org] : "Okay, so I just got back from the virgin megastore here in Hollywood. I was pissed because I felt that the Firefly DVDs should have been proudly and obviously displayed in the new releases. As I was I checking out I mentioned this -- and the guys there told me that the reason I couldn't find them was because they'd sold out almost right away. Saweeet-ah."

Re:Little late? (4, Funny)

Cali Thalen (627449) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769428)

I missed the initial Amazon stock (which sold out in...what, hours?). I immediately got on their waiting list though, and my set arrived late last week.

I should have a DVD player by the end of the holidays...and probably a TV some time shortly after that :-)

Slashdot personals! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769077)

Gayer than you think. Ask sllort!

Wait. Are you saying Sllort is gay? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769476)

I thought that was just SDEM! Is Sllort being buggered by Fyodor, too?

AHHHH!!!! (5, Funny)

SillySnake (727102) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769080)

features including Josh singing the Firefly theme. Well.. I *WAS* going to go buy it..

Re:AHHHH!!!! (5, Funny)

benk (93688) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769147)

is it against the DMCA to use the mute button? :)

Re:AHHHH!!!! (5, Informative)

koganuts (526569) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769267)

Well, Joss has a sense of humor [scifi.com] about its inclusion:
There's some crazy person singing the theme song, which, I can't stress enough, people should just avoid that particular extra. It was never meant to be heard by anybody. ... Yeah, that'd be me. I threw it down. I was like, OK, I'll just throw it down so they know the chords and then we'll get some great old blues singer to sing it and it will be cool. And they were like, "Let's put it on the DVD." And I was like, "OK." And then I listened to it. I was like, "I must die now [laughs]." I can't stress this enough--not a singer. ... But the embarrassment is outweighed by the fact that I love this show as hard as anything I've loved, and to have it exist on the DVD shelf and in perpetuity is such a great thing for me.

Firefly sucked (-1, Troll)

CognitiveFusion (602570) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769082)

It was ill-fated for a good reason. It sucked. There, I just saved about 80% of you from having to post to this article.

Insightful? (3, Insightful)

Nagatzhul (158676) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769181)

Whoa.... Saying it sucked was insightful? More like deluded. Firefly was the best piece of TV to come out in a long, long time. It is too bad that some people were too used to crap to enjoy it.

Re:Insightful? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769200)

No, it sucked. Get out of the basement more often.

Re:Insightful? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769236)

It was an accident. They meant to rate it "Inciteful."

Re:Insightful? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769351)

Here in the UK, most TV from the states sucks. We didn't get Firefly, so we can either assume that:

a) Firefly sucked
b) US marketroids have no idea about the world outside

Personally, I'd wager that it didn't suck, and that's precisely why it got pulled. I mean, McDonalds is the most popular restaurant in the world right? But there's no way it's the best food. What I'm saying is that in today's world, dumbed down works because it hits more folks who like it, and it's to hell with smarter people really, because if something for us was on TV, it'd be patronising.

Re:Insightful? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769352)


Things like Firefly always amaze me, not because I'm a huge fan but because the people who are refuse to believe anyone can have good taste and still not like it.

I thought Firefly sucked. I thought the writing sucked. I thought the shittiest episode of Buffy was still lightyears ahead of this crap space western.

And to top it all off, I don't watch much TV because most of it is crap.

Sigh...posting anonymously to avoid burning my karma. Sadly, having a negative opinion of a sci-fi show gets you modded down around here.

Re:Insightful? (0, Offtopic)

BdosError (261714) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769418)

posting anonymously to avoid burning my karma
Is your karma really that important? Don't you have anything else to show for your life? You realize it's not real karma, don't you?

Have an opinion and stand by it.

Re:Insightful? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769470)

I have to agree with you. Firefly had some interesting aspects to it, but they really didn't spend enough time rethinking their overall concept. I could just hear the producer pitching the show: "yeah sure it's a western, but get this, it's set in space!". Yes, they did better than most sci-fi by not having sound in space and by having characters that were slightly more than one dimension. On the other hand, they really needed to work on their plotlines, rather than simply rehashing tired old western plots. The episode that clinched it for me, after which I stopped watching, was one where these people with plenty of weapons and a huge, technologically advanced space ship had to rob a fricking train. And oh, to emphasize the fact that it wasn't just another western they made it a levitating train ("let's futurize this western plot by making it a levitating train!") . Greeeat.

Re:Insightful? (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769561)

The episode that clinched it for me, after which I stopped watching, was one where these people with plenty of weapons and a huge, technologically advanced space ship had to rob a fricking train.

Except for the fact that the "train robbery" WAS THE FIRST FRICKN EPISODE! Not to mention that it was made in a hurry to please the Fox producers because they didn't want to air the pilot. I'll bet you never even watched another episode.

The truth is that many of the episodes use more technologically advanced settings and have far different story lines than a traditional western.

Re:Insightful? (2, Insightful)

geekoid (135745) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769429)

ITs a show, sompeople won't like it.
But you are right 'It sucked' is not an insightfull comment. If they gace some reason, then it could be insightfull.

Re:Insightful? (1)

JudgeFurious (455868) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769567)


Ok, like some others responding to you I have to grant that "it sucked" is hardly insightful.

On the other hand saying someone who didn't like it must be too used to crap to enjoy it is roughly about the same amount of "dumb as fuck" as the guy you're replying to.

Firefly did not do anything for me either. It doesn't mean I don't know good SciFi when I see it. It simply was not my cup of tea. I did see some good things there, I just didn't care much for the show overall. I think Joss got stretched pretty thin about that time and nothing with his name on it was at it's best during the time Firefly was being made and on TV.

*Note: in my OPINION and for the record "my opinion" isn't the last word on anything and I understand that.

Re:Firefly sucked (0, Troll)

tuxwatcher (558155) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769279)

I'm with you. I usually like just about anything SciFi, FireFly Sucked. But I do miss Farscape

wtf? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769088)

is firefly

Been there, done that (4, Insightful)

Rocketboy (32971) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769091)

Bought it for my daughter for Christmas a week ago. Looking foreward to seeing the three un-aired episodes.

And to think they took this off and left "Everyone Loves Raymond" on. Now they're wondering why we don't watch TV...

RB

Re:Been there, done that (1)

phorm (591458) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769182)

Bought it for my daughter for Christmas a week ago. Looking foreward to seeing the three un-aired episodes.

She's looking forward to it or you are? Perhaps you both are firefly fans, in which case you might end up trading copies of FF for Christmas :-)

Re:Been there, done that (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769508)

But in a last word to the wise of these days let it be said that of all who give gifts these two were the wisest.

Re:Been there, done that (2, Funny)

Karma Sucks (127136) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769311)

Are you one of those guys who buys their mom a basketball? :-)

Re:Been there, done that (0)

SpecialSauce (7866) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769313)

I pre-ordered it for me when it came up on bn.com. I'm still waiting for it to be delivered :(

Re:Been there, done that (4, Insightful)

FreeUser (11483) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769353)

And to think they took this off and left "Everyone Loves Raymond" on. Now they're wondering why we don't watch TV...

I like Raymond ... anyone with a significant other and/or annoying family members will likely find humor in it. What is appalling is that shows like "Survivor 2" survive, while excellent shows like Firefly get cancelled. I'd never seen the show when it aired (where the hell was their marketing department?), but after watching the entire series back-to-back last weekend I can only agree that it was absolute incompetence on the part of the Media Empire that allowed this one to go by the wayside while inundating the public airwaves with so much utter and complete crap. COPS, Survivor, Blind Date, Elimidate, etc. ad nauseum.

We need some open source movie making (perhaps with Blender and cheap clusters such is just around the corner). Version 0.1 of OurGreatOnlineAnimatedSeries might suck, but by Version 0.8 it'll be the best thing on, beating anything from Hollywood hands down.

Re:Been there, done that (1)

fuzzeli (676881) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769449)

We need some open source movie making

And the forking could be used to create a choose-your-own-adventure film! heh.

Re:Been there, done that (3, Insightful)

geekoid (135745) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769460)

Yes, there is nothing like a show that completete berates someone of a specific gender, portrays them in the worse light, and they all take it.

If the roles where reversed, womens groups would have had it pulled after the pilot.

it is completely insulting to men.

Maybe cause Everybody Loves Raymond is good? (0)

egg troll (515396) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769502)

Okay, ELR is not the most sophisticated show ever. However when I watch it from time to time, I never fail to get a serious belly laugh or two out of it. Peter Boyle is a damn fine comedic actor. The show may not appeal to you personally, but I think its definitely above average.


Firefly, however, was so terrible it made my skin crawl. I felt embarassed just to have watched it. I had high hopes, but in the end I'd rather watch Matlock than Firefly.

Re:Been there, done that (1)

Webmonger (24302) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769542)

Bought it for my daughter for Christmas. . .
I hope she doesn't read Slashdot!

Maybe a movie? (5, Interesting)

ChicoLance (318143) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769102)

I'm still working my way through the commentary tracks, but this set is nicely put together.

Everybody has gone their separate ways, so we won't see a second season, but at one point in the commentary they said they didn't want to spill all of the beans in case there is a Firefly movie.

But I want to know all of the beans! There were so many good story lines to take advantage of, but were never explained!

Re:Maybe a movie? (2, Informative)

DdJ (10790) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769272)

...at one point in the commentary they said they didn't want to spill all of the beans in case there is a Firefly movie...
IMDB [imdb.com] says it's in production right now. Looks like they got everyone they needed to participate.

IMDB says it's in production right now. (1)

runlvl0 (198575) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769519)

IMDB says it's in production right now.

"In production" can mean a lot of things... according to Whedonesque [whedonesque.com] , "Joss Whedon hints that the movie has still a very long way to go before it gets made. "If I start talking about it before there is [anything definitive to say], it lessens the chance that [it will get made]."

Re:Maybe a movie? (3, Informative)

thegrommit (13025) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769296)

For some additional background on the series, Cinefantastique [64.5.52.62] has an episode guide with comments from Joss Whedon and Tim Minear.

Firefly sucks ass! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769108)

Only slashdot losers like it.

Name? (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769115)

Isn't his name Joss, not Josh?

Re:Name? (1)

Lane.exe (672783) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769160)

DING DING DING!

Tell him what he's won, Johnny!

Re:Name? (1)

BigGerman (541312) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769171)

Maybe Josh is his evil twin? From Wester-Space?

So called "editors"...

Re:Name? (1)

TrippTDF (513419) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769509)

The best part is, everyone in the comments is calling him Josh, too.

All your dreams are gone (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769116)

All your dreams are made
When you're chained to the mirror and the razor blade
Today's the day that all the world will see
Another sunny afternoon

I need a little time to wake up, wake up. WHAT'S THE STORY MORNING GLORY?

Before you buy... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769120)

...just remember that every purchase of DVDs or a DVD player benefits the so-called DVD "Copy Control Association" [dvdcca.org] , a secret industry organization whose goal is to destroy your Fair Use rights to use the media that you've purchased.

Only morons like Michael Sims would willingly invest money into a medium that is fundamentally designed to deny you your freedom.

Sincerely,
Seth Finklestein
2-Time EFF Pioneer Award Winner

Josh who? (5, Informative)

Keelor (95571) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769122)

If you're going to misspell the creator's name, please don't mention it three times in the article.

Or, you could just get it right and call him Joss Whedon [imdb.com] . Either way.

Re:Josh who? (2, Funny)

RatBastard (949) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769166)

Wesley Crusher is producing TV shows now? Wow.

*ducks and runs for cover*

Re:Josh who? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769533)

If you're going to misspell the creator's name, please don't mention it three times in the article.

But don't three wrongs make a right. Oh, wait, that's three lefts. Nevermind.

It's JOSS not Josh... (0, Redundant)

Ron Harwood (136613) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769124)

For crying out loud...

Holy crap!!! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769125)

And I don't care.

His name... (0, Redundant)

greenergrad (136915) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769130)

Actually, his name is Joss Whedon, not Josh.

WHAT? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769143)

Is this really "News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters?" Maybe nerds care about it, but it's not really stuff that matters. Certainly there's much more important news going on. I don't really give a shit when a DVD set of anything is released, and I think almost everyone here agrees with me.

Thank you.

Re:WHAT? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769292)

Agreed, especially for a show that will be forgotten soon enough

Re:WHAT? (1)

Justin205 (662116) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769295)

Science Fiction = News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters
DVDs = News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters
Wanting to bring back cancelled sci-fi series = News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters

Therefore...

Firefly DVD Set Released = News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters

Joss not Josh (2, Interesting)

Shin Dig (27213) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769153)

"My days of not taking you seriously are definitely coming to a middle"

Re:Joss not Josh (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769241)

As is stick, not as in Hartnett...

Boo... (-1, Flamebait)

mOoZik (698544) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769158)

Worst show ever.

Typo much? It's *JOSS*, not Josh... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769162)

Sheesh, guys, come on... I know it's Friday and Christmas is next week...

What's so good about Firefly? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769170)

What's with Firefly and the Slashdot crowd anyways?
What's so good about it? I've never seen an episode, so would someone care to enlighten me?

Re:What's so good about Firefly? (2, Funny)

grub (11606) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769227)


I saw a couple of episodes. They go something like this:

Hero: Howdy, miss. What's th' problem?
Damsel: That evil Mr. Villian tied me to the railway tracks until my Pa gave 'im the deed to our ranch!
Hero: Why that good-fer-nuttin.. let me get my laser blaster from my space ship and tan his flea-bitten hide!

Re:What's so good about Firefly? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769367)

ass

Re:What's so good about Firefly? (5, Informative)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769347)

1. Excellent characters
2. Amazing story development
3. Best special effects, bar none
4. A space captain who isn't a wus. (e.g. In the pilot, a bad guy is holding the teenage girl captive while evil space cannibals are approaching. The captain arrives in the middle of the hostage situation, and instead of negotiating, he - without missing a step - simply shoots the guy, picks up his body and throws it out the rear cargo entrance so they can take off.)
5. NO FSCKING "techno babble". No bloody deflector dishes, transporters, hyperspace gizmos, exotic particles, gravity wave engines or anything else.
6. No sound in space.
7. Soft title music that gets stuck in your head and won't let go.
8. An interesting back-story. (e.g. the episode "Out of Gas")
9. You can't take the sky from me...

Go to suprnova.org (no typo) and download "Our Dear Mrs. Reynolds". You'll be hooked, I guarantee. :-)

Re:What's so good about Firefly? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769522)

And don't forget these points:


1. Every episode was basically a rehashed plot from an old western.

2. All of outer space looks and feels like midwest America circa 1850.

3. They've got space ships and inhabit many many worlds, and yet everyone still speaks with a midwestern American accent and carry around colt 45's to shoot each other with.


Basically if you like westerns, you'll love Firefly. But if you like "hard" sci-fi, it's not particularily interesting.

Re:What's so good about Firefly? (3, Insightful)

thegrommit (13025) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769375)

What's so good about it? I've never seen an episode, so would someone care to enlighten me?

It's a sci-fi show that isn't. It doesn't feature grand space battles or bumpy headed aliens of the week. Instead it has great dialogue, character development, a tight-knit cast, and *gasp* continuity. Contrast this with Star Trek.

Too Bad (5, Interesting)

adipocere (201135) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769191)

While latter-era Buffy and Angel both suffered with Whedon being stretched too thin, the man has a real gift for dialogue, comedy, and story arcs. He's not without flaw, but I'd rather see his worst work than 99% of the shows on the air these days. Any sensible studio executive ("invisible pink unicorn") would say, "Star Trek sucks now ... how about making it work for the fans for once?" I have my as-yet-unwatched Firefly DVDs waiting for the holiday break. I bought them sight-unseen, if that tells you anything about what I think his talent is.

Have no fear... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769195)

Firefly won't come back. The good people at wherever the fuck it was produced may have let one turd through, but they won't gay up their airtime again with this crap. People for the Execution of Josh Weadon!

Much Better The Second Time Around (5, Interesting)

Dr. Wu (309239) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769197)

I have to admit, I wasn't really drawn into the story that much when it was on the air (and I guess I would qualify as a major Whedon fan).

However, I think a major part of the reason for this could have been the poorly chosen episodes that Fox decided to air. I think if the first two episodes in the series had been aired first, rather than last, it would have made a lot more sense to the fans.

The extras are good, the stories are good, and at least in my opinion, it's a lot better than the 'Battlestar Galactica' mini-series. Plus, it has the added advantage of being both inexpensive (especially compared to the Star Trek series), and complete (no other seasons to buy at a later date).

So I recommend it to any Sci-Fi fan, it's a great addition to any collection, especially if you are a Buffy or Angel fan, if only because the commentary by Mutant Enemy veterans (Like Joss), has a lot of tiny insights into those shows as well.

Dr. Wu
Yes, There's Gas In The Car

Why??? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769201)

Why does there always have to be this "1% of the population liked it so bring it back" mentality!?

Granted the US has a bigger problem with pulling good progs that the UK, but people seem to have a short attention span regarding series. For instance, I'd prefer Red Dwarf back more than anything else, but I'd like it sort of how it was around series 3... and that's not gonna happen... things like this naturally fade away, you can't bring them back (Galactica) without incurring the wrath of die-hard fans of the original.

Anyway, my original point; bringing back a series after it's been cancelled is unnatural - it's in the same basket as school reunions. Sort of like "if you got on with people, you'd still know them anyway". Bringing back programmes after they've been cancelled goes against the space/time fabric and is just weird."Bring it back, cos I liked it!" - doesn't really strike me as a good reason. Bring it back because it has promise sounds a hell of a lot better.

So Firefly fans, just buy the DVD, be happy with it, and look forward to the next syndicated, 'we borrowed the Firefly series 2 scripts', space-opera, otherwise you might end up with a Galactica; a sci-fi prog that reminds you how crap the world has become since the 70's. Then, and only then, will you realise how bad it can really get...

That's what we have the internet for!! (2, Insightful)

Thud457 (234763) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769291)

"Why does there always have to be this "1% of the population liked it so bring it back" mentality!?"

Just make more episodes and sell DVDs on ebay!

Re:Why??? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769349)

That's just stupid. I haven't seen any Red Dwarf at all, though I've heard it's good, but from the way you talk about it there were at least three seasons - Firefly hardly got one.

Not only that, but I bet that when they first started showing Red Dwarf, they actually had the decency to show the shows in order and at a somewhat consistent timeslot, which Fox didn't.

The reason why so many people want Firefly back is because it had potential - cutting it off like Fox did was like squashing a plant before it got the chance to flower.

Re:Why??? (1)

AKAImBatman (238306) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769405)

Actually, Red Dwarf had 8 seasons. Well, really 7 1/2. The eighth ended only a few episodes in, probably because it wasn't much fun any more. It was kind of cool back when they had the entire Red Dwarf to themselves and the computer. But then they went running around in the Star Bug, and the show started to take itself too seriously. (Not good for a comedy.) Then in the eighth season, nanites reconstruct the ship and everyone who was long gone, only to throw our intrepid heros in jail. And how many interesting episodes can you have from JAIL?! It just wasn't fun anymore.

*sigh*

Re:Why??? (4, Insightful)

David McBride (183571) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769518)

"Anyway, my original point; bringing back a series after it's been cancelled is unnatural"

It worked for Star Trek.

Have mine (4, Interesting)

ericdano (113424) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769206)

I have mine. I really liked this show. I think it was doomed because it was on Fox (Fridays at 9pm? WTF), and that instead of showing the intended Pilot, it showed probably one of the lamer episodes as the Pilot.

I think if Fox had decided to show the 2 hour Pilot, it might have lasted longer.

I think the quality of the Episodes got better as the show progressed. I really liked "Out Of Gas" and "Trash" (which was never aired).

Anyhow, maybe UPN or SciFi would pick it up. It was a different show and I enjoyed it.

Re:Have mine (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769464)

Oh, how soon they forget.

X-Files was on Friday at 9 pm for many a year. And it thrived very well there.

watched disc 1 last night (1)

jgilbert (29889) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769232)

I got disc 1 from netflix. I had actually caught a bit of what I assume was the first episode, "Serenity", when it first aired and wasn't that impressed. However, after watching the 3 episodes last night I would say that I really liked it. Maybe it's the lack of commercials every five minutes disrupting the flow. It was still a bit annoying with the obvious cuts to/from commercials, but at least you didn't have to wait for the actual commercial (most annoying was cuts to black and then right back to the exact same scene).

Is it just me or would regular TV greatly improve if they would revert to a PBS style sponsors message and the beginning and then let you actually watch the damn show without interruption every few minutes. I don't mind commercials, what I mind is having my attention yanked around every five to ten minutes from what I care about to something I have absolutely no interest in.

jason

Re:watched disc 1 last night (2, Interesting)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769469)

Is it just me or would regular TV greatly improve if they would revert to a PBS style sponsors message and the beginning and then let you actually watch the damn show without interruption every few minutes.
I expect they'll actually start doing this very soon now, especially for "much anticipated series premieres" and so forth. It's a good way to rope in the viewers. (In fact, didn't they already do this with the season premiere of 24?)

The downside? Forget commercials -- you're now going to see more and more products integrated into the shows themselves. Picture an entire episode of Seinfeld where Kramer hears on the news that the union drivers who distribute Coca-Cola are on strike, and he travels to Connecticut to buy a can of Coke. (Hilarity ensues.)

A movie is in the works (2, Informative)

Keith Mickunas (460655) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769233)

Or so I've heard from a couple of sources and it's listed on IMDB. So it looks like there will be more. Personnally I can't wait, I really enjoyed the show and would like to know what happened.

Is this story a troll?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769234)

Does this story have the makings of a troll? Let's see here...

A self-proclaimed Joss Whedon fan goes on to misspell his first name. Check.

A ridiculous claim is made (second season? yeah, right). Check.

The series sucked. Check. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769263)

Yeah, sounds like a well-crafted troll to me. And it looks like quite a few people have bitten. Well done troll! It's rare that receive story submission status.

Worth the Bucks (1)

Dr. Smeegee (41653) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769246)

Very very fine. I saw just a bit of the show when it aired and was intrigued. Truly a darn shame that it was not picked up for further seasons. The only episode that really really reeked was about the level of a really good episode of "Stargate SG-1"

I really like the fact that things in space make no sounds! ... although someone should tell Joss that a regular bullet would work in a vacuum.

Re:Worth the Bucks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769310)

"a regular bullet would work in a vacuum"

Well, it would if you could figure out how to set off gunpowder/cordite... in a vacuum...

Easter Egg (5, Interesting)

hero (25043) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769253)

There is an easter egg of Adam Baldwin (Jayne) singing the whole "Hero of Canton" song from Jaynestown on the dvds.

Throw in disc four that has the special features menu on it, and I think it's on the second special features menu. You just have to highlight the bottom left option and hit left again, and it will highlight a little thing on the side. Sorry I can't be more precise I don't have the info handy, it's not too hard to find with a minor bit of fiddling.

-hero.

A Word of Caution (1)

ion_ash (14931) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769303)

In the last week I've watched the first 2.5 discs, rented from netflix. I'm assuming I'm the first netflix customer to view the discs that I'm watching, firstly because they've only been out a short time, and secondly because the disc surfaces are still visually pristine.

I noticed some strange behavior in the first 2 discs when navigating the menus, it seemed like the video would freeze inter-frame in a way I found highly distracting, but it didn't affect the playback of the episodes. I began watching the 3 disc last evening and it seemed even more glitchy than the first 2. Glitchy to the point of trying it on multiple DVD players (Playstation 2, and a Pioneer) to be able to even WATCH the episodes.

Not being an expert, I can't say what it is exactly that's causing these problems, but I'm inclined to believe it's either:

  • A) Poor Quality Control in the production of the discs, or

  • B) Poor Mastering.
    or possibly
    C) Secret Government Postal Facility Beams
    (I'm leaning toward the mastering)

Don't let this stop you from watching a show that by all rights SHOULD still be on the air (and was better than anything else FOX chose to show us instead... when will they ever learn that Friday nights are DEATH for new shows?) I think the show has it all: Good production values, excellent writing, humans in space (but no space monsters, just humans)

GREAT!

Ill fated? (0, Troll)

nedron (5294) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769326)

...the DVD set for Josh Whedon's ill fated Wester-Space-Opera...

Ill fated? If it were more than a juvenile Saturday morning style (think Far Out Spacenuts) show, then maybe ill-fated would fit.

Given what it was, I would say "...the DVD set for Josh Whedon's doomed Wester-Space-Opera..."

It's amazing that we keep getting "shows" like Firefly and the new "Battlestar Galactica", but no one can be bothered to do a good science fiction series.

I mean, we haven't had one since Babylon 5.

I'm not even necessarily picky. I can watch and episode of Andromeda now an then. As sad as it is to say, Andromeda is heads above Firefly and Andromeda isn't great shakes.

Re:Ill fated? (2, Insightful)

Yobgod Ababua (68687) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769387)

"...but no one can be bothered to do a good science fiction series."

What are your criteria for a science fiction series to be "good"?

Personally I thought Firefly was an excellent series. It had interesting characters with complex motivations and interactions, good pacing, beautiful sets, gratuitous violence, and an intriguing and believeable universe. I'm somewhat baffled as to how anyone could seriously characterize it as "juvenile Saturday morning" given all of these elements.

If you're not just a troll, perhaps you'd like to discuss this further?

Re:Ill fated? (1)

druiid (109068) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769505)

I wouldn't go as far as calling B5 very good. There were good episodes, but the show itself kinda sucked... a lot, in some cases. I never really saw what people liked so much about the show.. same humanoid looking aliens as Star Trek, etc. Personally, I think the Star Trek aped version of B5, Deep Space 9 was in some ways better.

Re:Ill fated? (1)

MysticGlyph (706776) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769554)

How strange... I am a huge sci-fi fan, have been since birth I figure. In my opinion the two worst sci-fi shows ever aired on t.v. were Babylon 5 and Andromeda, the two shows you seem to think are better than Firefly. Firefly was/is a friggin great show, I loved it when it was on Fox. I never could watch the bubblegum sci-fi-pop garbage hurcules crap Andromeda ...pink space chicks ...neat-o, and Babylon 5 just kept me drowsy enough to enter a deep coma for an hour at a time. Its funny how our opinions of what good sci-fi is differs so widely isnt it?

UK doesn't get the DVD set... (2, Interesting)

rklrkl (554527) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769339)

It looks like this DVD set is a Region 1-only release - hardly surprising it's not available in the UK since only the little-watched Sci-Fi Channel aired it here (and directly up against various clashing progs I watch on other satellite channels plus having the dubious Sci-Fi logo in the corner of course). Still, I've ordered it from DVD Soon [dvdsoon.com] (20 pounds, which isn't bad for a 4-disc set shipped from Canada to the UK) and just got the confirmation e-mail that it has indeed just been dispatched...

Me too (2, Informative)

gmhowell (26755) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769358)

Surprised this wasn't already mentioned. I was going to do a review for slashdot, but whatever.

Good stuff. Good dialog, good characters, good stories. You can see the threads that Whedon was going to build up and play out emerging, particularly the second time through.

So far, I've only made it through 1.5 discs (about 6 episodes?) and have only some mild complaints. First, the swearing is as lame as it was in Farscape. Second, the commercial breaks are very obvious. Looking at most of them, it would take very little to make the transitions a little smoother. Purists would probably object. Some episodes seem to just 'stop'. While in the larger scheme of things that would work, as episodic TV, it doesn't.

And one of these days, I will figure out whether Inara or Kaylee is hotter. A modern day Ginger vs. MaryAnn. (Yes, this is what a recent JE of mine is about, complete with linkage). At least Mal is hotter than the Professor for the ladies:)

Official Firefly Board (2, Informative)

eforhan (631605) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769373)

In case anyone would like to discuss DVD's or Firefly in general:
[prospero.com]
http://forums.prospero.com/foxfirefly

This was the official Fox board, and is now run by Mutant Enemy.

Mmmmm, Firefly (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769374)

I watched this last weekend. I repeatedly called up some friends and said, "Joss is a GOD, durnit!"

Thanks to the DVD set, I found out that River had the very best line of the series (near the end of the previously-unaired episode "Trash"). I'm gigglig just thinking about it.

Firefly (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7769441)

I heard that Firefly was going to be a western in space. Sure enough, when I watched the first episode, it was about the gang robbing a train, western style. I thought my worst fears were realized as this is the type of science fiction I hate most.

Take any western and change the indians to aliens. Changes the horses and stagecoaches to spaceships. Presto! You have instant sci-fi. I felt that way through exactly one episode. By the third one, I was hooked on an amazing show.

It looks to me like someone at Fox wanted to sink the show. You run it on Friday night (kiss of death), show the worst episode first, and then don't bother to show the first episode until much later in the season.

Unaired... (1)

Motor (104119) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769485)

Unaired episodes? Awwww... poor Americans, haven't you seen the entire series yet? For what it's worth, the UK SciFi channel has shown it two or three times already. In fact, the SciFi is having a "Firefly" weekend (next weekend, I think... their site is appalling [scifi.com] , but I saw it advertised) in which they show all the episodes... again... muahahaha.

Great news! (0)

Staos (700036) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769490)

This is the only sci-fi series that i ever liked. Why does Fox always have to cancel the best shows? Futurama, Family Guy, Firefly, etc? Luckily the first two were picked up by other networks. Maybe Sci-Fi will pick this up too.

Not all that good..... (1)

chadm1967 (144897) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769499)

I'm sure I'm probably alone in saying this, but......I didn't think it was all that good.

Can't find the Season 2 .torrent!!! (2, Interesting)

teamhasnoi (554944) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769506)

hehehe. I probably will save my $$ for Farscape on DVD, as I never saw an episode. That says something about its placement as our TV is on 24/7.

Why the SciFi network doesn't pick it up and replace "Gorgol: The Betrayal", "Extreme Black: The Evil Within" and their other crappy shows with colons in them - I do not know.

Like a shining jewel (2)

Blackbrain (94923) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769532)

I watched the entire set last weekend and the episodes just got better and better. I think the the pressure of working on a series that was threatened with cancellation from the pilot on really inspired everyone involved to put in 110% effort. I don't know if we will ever see a movie or another series of Firefly, but that just makes what we do have more precious. If you haven't seen it, beg, buy, or borrow this series. You won't be dissapointed.

Firefly was a late bloomer (3, Interesting)

curtlewis (662976) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769535)

I rented the disks from Netflix because I'm a big Buffy and Angel fan after having got into both series years after they debuted. I never even heard of Firefly until after it was cancelled.

So I rented it just to see what all the hub bub was about. As I watched the first two parter, I was thinking, no wonder this got cancelled, it's kinda boring. But I forced myself to finish watching the rest of the disk.

I'm glad I did. I found that I started to care what happened to each character as I watched more episodes. While I was indifferent at first, by the time I wrapped up Disk 4, I was almost solemnly putting the disk back in its sleeve to mail back to Netflix.

It's a good show and worth giving it the time to win you over. Too bad Fox didn't do that. I don't think it'll come back as a series again, certainly not on Fox, but they are working on a movie (probably TV movie).

So what's the deal about good SciFi shows getting cancelled? Farscape was a fantastic show, certainly worthy of more seasons. I think Firefly had some longevity to it, too. Just think, if they hadn't given Buffy more than 13 episodes... There'd be no Witchblade, no Dark Angel, no Bird of Prey, no ActionSciFi Show with buttkicking chicks!

Asd they say, it takes money to make money. Be willing to give these shows a chance!

FWIW, for So Cal Slashdot readers... (4, Informative)

koganuts (526569) | more than 10 years ago | (#7769552)

Joss Whedon and several members of the cast and crew are scheduled to appear at the LA Comic Book and Sci-Fi Convention [comicbookscifi.com] (yeah, the convention will be full of geeky fans, but check the list of past convention guests [comicbookscifi.com] and you have to admit that it's pretty damn impressive, and the admission price of $7.50 can't be beat either) this coming Sunday to promote the DVD, and Fox will have them there for sale for $25.00:
Joining JOSS on stage at 1:00 P.M. will be TIM MINEAR (Writer), BEN EDLUND (Writer-also creator of THE TICK Comic Book), Stars NATHON FILLION (CAPTAIN MALCOLM "MAL" REYNOLDS), GINA TORRES (ZOE), ADAM BALDWIN (JAYNE), RON GLASS (BOOK "THE SHEPHERD"), and MORENA BACCARIN (INARA). Fox Home Entertainment will have GREAT PRICES on DVD's at their table at the Convention! Fox will have the FIREFLY COMPLETE SERIES DVD COLLECTION on sale for just $24.99. They will also have BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER Season One-Five for $34.99. ANGEL Volume One and Two will be on sale for $34.99. X-2: X-MEN UNITED will be on sale for $14.99, and X-FILES DVD's will also be on sale.
It'll be interesting to hear his thoughts on the TV series, on FOX network execs, the DVDs, and the upcoming movie project (which contrary to recent reports, has a very long way to go [tvguide.com] ). Plus if you go, you'll have a chance to rib Joss on singing the theme song. :)
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