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X10 Xmas Light Control with Pan and Zoom

michael posted more than 10 years ago | from the chevy-chase dept.

Christmas Cheer 75

zzxc writes "Last year, slashdot mentioned Alek Komarnitsky's 2002 Christmas Light display with the ability to turn ON and OFF each zone of lights. This year, he has added the ability to pan and zoom the camera in the web control, which works from 5-12 MST. You can select zoom from 1-5x, pan horizontally and vertically by selecting the angle, as well as turn each zone of lights ON or OFF. He also has sensors that tell you the current temperature, humidity, if it detects stars (vs clouds), and more. However after last year's 22,000 web controlled lights, he's "burnt out", putting up less than 4,000 lights. Last year, his lights pulled 78.6 amps of current. This year, he is only pulling about 14.7 amps. Also, last year his home T1 line was completely saturated by all the press attention. This year, he's ready. (Note that this is not referring to X10 wireless video cameras, but to power control devices using the x10 protocol.)"

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Obligatory (5, Funny)

jargoone (166102) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774044)

I didn't see the answer to the question everyone is asking: can you pan far enough to see the girl in the bikini by the pool?

THIS WAS MODDED FUNNY (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7774094)

Why modded Flamebait now???

Plus has low UID and good karma... are mods on crack?

Slashmods suck. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7774133)

a LOT.

Re:THIS WAS MODDED FUNNY (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7774176)

poster is a known troll with foul leanings.

See evidence of being an asshole [slashdot.org]

A low UID and good karma don't always add up to a reasonable, well-mannered person. In this case, the poster is clearly not.

Re:THIS WAS MODDED FUNNY (1)

DAldredge (2353) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774300)

That isn't a low UID

Re:THIS WAS MODDED FUNNY (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7774602)

"low" isn't a scientific measurement. Therefore I can say that a UID of 600,000 is low, you fucking retard. Shove your father's dick up your ass and get AIDS already you faggot. Fuck you, fuck you, fuck you. Way to be a stupid shit!

Re:THIS WAS MODDED FUNNY (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7774377)

Errr... what you linked was not a troll, merely the end of the line of a Linux Zealot BS argument that had gone on too long. Please, I invite all to follow the post history. So, JVMATTHE [slashdot.org] I suggest you brush that chip off your shoulder and get on with life, or if you are not he, just to get on with your life.

Re:Obligatory (1)

Walt Dismal (534799) | more than 10 years ago | (#7775588)

Not only can you, but the X10 CT-9000 Surveillance Christmas Tree makes a perfect gift for the hormone-impaired.

Re:Obligatory (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 10 years ago | (#7780832)

He lives in Colorado. It's Christmastime. The girl in the bikini by the pool has frozen solid. Unless you're a necrophiliac, there's not much for you here, though she is nearly naked, and petrified.

OMG (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7774054)

I just saw his wife walk by the side of the webcam naked, and she is hot!

Linux? No thanks, I'd rather keep my sanity. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7774067)

"Why I changed to OpenBSD"
or...
"Why I spent the last four days drinking Red Bull, swearing at my laptop and pulling my hair out"

Right, so, I've got this Compaq Evo N600c Laptop right? Yes. Now, I thought, hmmm, wouldn't it be nice to run Linux on my laptop? Yes. So, off I went, happily researching, downloading, reading docs, reading more docs, browsing newsgroups and forums, making notes of conflicting opinions regarding APIC, ACPI etc etc

It comes to crunch time. Let's get ready to install Linux! Bear in mind that I already use Gentoo 1.4 on my A7N8X-DLX (NForce2) board, I was all set to run it on my laptop too. (I'm not even going to go there with the problems I had with that one).

So off I go and install Gentoo on my laptop. No problems. ReiserFS, freshest Kernel 2.6.0 straight off of kernel.org - all is well. Then I get to X. I want to use either the nipple mouse and/or synaptics touchpad. NOT A CHANCE. After fucking about with boot options, BIOS settings, compiling the kernel with the necessary support enabled, downloading/compiling/installing the Synaptics stuff from that telia.com site, 60 million different XF86Configs and reading nearly every single gentoo forum posting about "synaptics", I'm pissed off. No, seriously fucking annoyed.

Linux is great. Don't get me wrong. But why oh fucking why is there so much effort put into supporting archaic Gravis Gamepads, outdated SCSI boards and shit like that when a common, modern laptop accessory takes a Herculean feat of brain power and mental strain to get working? X works, the mouse doesn't. Yippie Kai Ay.

So, I thought to myself "I use OpenBSD on the Mini-ITX firewall, I'll give that a go. Never used it as a desktop, but WTF. It deserves a shot". So, a nice breezy install of OpenBSD 3.4 later, and I "startx". Jesus. Holy Crap. THE TOUCHPAD WOKRS!!!!! For all the "emerge"ing, fiddling and reading that I did, it is all blown away with a wonderous result on OpenBSD.

So, to sum up, my experience with installing OSS on laptops has been this: "If you don't want to frustrate yourself into an early grave, boot> OpenBSD"

Gotta Love his Javascript popup for that link (4, Funny)

coolmacdude (640605) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774069)

"Incoming Slashdot`er - Maximum Power to Web Server!"

Re:Gotta Love his Javascript popup for that link (1)

Joe U (443617) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774125)

I liked the Javascript, but I didn't think much for his perl script though:

IP Address to Country Demonstration
Your Country Capital : Canberra
Your Country Code : AU
Your Country Currency : Australian dollar
Your Country Name : Australia
Your Country Region : Oceania
Your Hostname : 24-193-145-xxx.nyc.rr.com
Your IP Address : 024.193.145.xxx
Your Previous URL : http://www.komar.org/cgi-bin/xmas_webcam
Your Timezone : EST - Daylight Saving Time IS observed

New York City, Austrailia on EST?

Yes, I xxx'd out my router address. I'm not that crazy, yet.

Re:Gotta Love his Javascript popup for that link (1)

Midnight Thunder (17205) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774637)

Given (xxx added):

Toronto-HSE-ppp3776xxx.sympatico.ca

I get told I am in the USA :(

Re:Gotta Love his Javascript popup for that link (1)

dorsey (119963) | more than 10 years ago | (#7777527)

That script sucks. Given that my hostname identifies my state and metropolitan area (I have roadrunner) it still can't figure out that I'm in the US. Weak.

Re:Gotta Love his Javascript popup for that link (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7774711)

Gotta love /. ing web sites. Time to see a funny political cartoon [votearianna.com] and /. another ... LOL!

"The #1 non-adult related webcam! (5, Funny)

192939495969798999 (58312) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774073)

Making it 10 trillionth overall" - Simpsons.
Seriously, though, I'd bet that this site would do really well if on xmas eve, santa showed up and deposited presents, and then did a pole dance or something.

Re:"The #1 non-adult related webcam! (1)

donkeyoverlord (688535) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774177)

santa showed up and deposited presents, and then did a pole dance or something.
If fat men in red suits depositing presents does it for you this quick google search is my present to you Santa Porn!!! [google.com]

OT: "Slashdot Personals" ad (-1, Offtopic)

Violet Null (452694) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774080)

No, this has nothing to do with the story.

So, I'm used for the ads for Thinkgeek. Even the ads for Microsoft don't faze me. But I bring up this story, and the ad is "Slashdot Personals, powered by Match.com".

And I said to myself, "Wow. Now _there's_ some targeted advertising. That's the sort of marketer that would sell icecubes on the Titanic."

HOLY SHIT SLASHDOT SUCKS. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7774088)

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Gratuitous linkage (5, Funny)

kevcol (3467) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774090)

Do [do.com] we [we.com] need [need.com] a [a.com] link [link.com] to [to.com] everything [everything.com] that [that.com] caught [caught.com] the [the.com] posters [posters.com] eye [eye.com] ? [questionmark.com]

Now you've done it! (5, Funny)

atrader42 (687933) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774414)

You've gone and slashdotted the most common words in the english language! Now what are we going to do?

Re:Now you've done it! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7775442)

Continue as before - spell badly ;)

Re:Now you've done it! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7775996)

I think the answer is rather obvious...

It's time to goto disney land.

He's ready? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7774101)

It's slashdotted already.

Christmas-nerds do NOT have to tempt the slashdot crowd.

Who cares? (4, Funny)

i_am_syco (694486) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774105)

What's the big deal? What was wrong with the good, old-fashioned throw-some-lights-in-the-bushes-and-in-the-gutters light scheme? Now, everyone's house either looks like the front yard of a church or a disco roller-arena from the 70s. Its John Travolta meets Jesus.

Re:Who cares? (1)

modpod (733098) | more than 10 years ago | (#7778298)

you gotta admit though, it's geeky, and it's cool. now what i think would be even better, is if you could interact on some sort of basis with the dog.

Hehehe.... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7774115)

This year, he's ready.

Do I hear a challenge?

Re:Hehehe.... (5, Funny)

notanatheist (581086) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774199)

Also of note.. on the site he mentions "when/if the Slashdot crowd comes..." Yup, that's asking for it. I think the article should be reposted when the lights are active. Heck, post it daily until the lights are down. What's Slashdot without a good dupe?

Yesam, and it looks like that brand spanking new (1)

Crasoum (618885) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774204)

server is getting a pretty bad spanking.

Musta been naughty.

questions i gotta ask (4, Funny)

morganjharvey (638479) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774120)

Isn't this a little dangerous? I mean, putting all that light out there, couldn't an airplane mistake his house for a runway?

And who pays this guy's electricity bill?

So what if I'm jealous. Let me be bitter. :)

Re:questions i gotta ask (1)

Treacle Treatment (681828) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774166)

This happened to me last Christmas when I decided to light the entire driveway and use the PC to switch the lights on and off. Imagine my suprise when a C-130 tried to taxi into my garage!

At least last year (2, Informative)

The Tyro (247333) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774864)

this light orgy was powered by wind power (not generated by him, I gathered... he still had to pay for it).

At least he's throwing a bone to the Enviro types... who apparently numbered exactly one. That's right... one person challenged him to put the display on wind power and sent him a check... and he was the only one to actually send money [komar.org]

At least there's one guy out there willing to back up his environmental beliefs with cash...

Children (2, Funny)

Treacle Treatment (681828) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774145)

It appears his children were born upside down. I think doing the Christmas light is his way of coping with the pain and anguish.

X10 Camera Linux Drivers (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7774172)

I did the same sort of thing. Hooked up the x10 and had the little cracker control a power module. Used the php x10 stuff and people could turn off the camera at will.

The driver which I help write is working under linux. The controls of the camera are not working right now (Porting driver to 2.6.0 kernel).

I did not get enough sleep, people would keep turning on and off the camera. Click, Click and Click all night. 8*)

If anyone would like to help/patch or use their x10 cameras here is the link:

http://www.emuit.com/webcam.html

And don't forget the other guy.. (4, Interesting)

wackybrit (321117) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774196)

There was another guy who set up webcams in his house and put all his lights on X10, and allowed people to control them over the web. Thing is, he's STILL doing it, it must have been going for a couple of years now.

This story reminded me of it, so I went back, and he's live on the thing STILL, so well worth checking out.

It's here at DriveMeInsane.com [drivemeinsane.com] (definitely an apt URL).

Actually.. (3, Informative)

wackybrit (321117) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774216)

It looks like he got rid of most of the gizmos and only has three lights hooked up now. He used to have about 12 sets of lights, and you could also control a remote control car that had a camera on it. I guess that all gets a bit expensive to maintain though. Oh, and you could do the sprinklers, and look at his doorcam.

Re:Actually.. (4, Informative)

Restil (31903) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774559)

Actually... I just moved and haven't finished setting everything back up yet. I was hoping to have it all done by xmas, but nothing ever goes according to plan.

Don't worry though, in a month it'll be back up to where it was.

-Restil

Re:Actually.. (0, Offtopic)

wackybrit (321117) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774659)

I forgot you were a Slashdotter. It all floods back. Thanks for dropping a line. I was just checking out the news on your site, and am looking forward to seeing it back in its former glory :-)

Question? (4, Interesting)

iamdrscience (541136) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774221)

Is anybody else wondering why exactly this guy had a T1 line in his house in the first place last year? Furthermore, is anybody else a little disappointed that he didn't decide to upgrade his T1 line to a home T3 line this year instead of paying for hosting?

Re:Question? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7774267)

he's a spammer!

enlarge your penis today!

The wonderous side effects of annoying advertising (4, Interesting)

weave (48069) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774232)

I hate X10.

I know, I know, it's not just that company that does the annoying pop up ads.

Sorry, whenever I hear X10, it just creates so much rage in me I won't even bother reading the fine article.

Let my lesson be learned by all advertising execs. Annoy your customers enough, the backlash and bad feelings may last forever -- or at least the life of your company.

p.s. SCO could stand to learn a similar lesson.

Re:The wonderous side effects of annoying advertis (1)

Spoing (152917) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774283)

  1. Let my lesson be learned by all advertising execs. Annoy your customers enough, the backlash and bad feelings may last forever -- or at least the life of your company.

Agreed. Are there any companies that do the same thing as X10? How are they with Linux support?

Re:The wonderous side effects of annoying advertis (3, Informative)

Turq (319326) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774390)

Er, yes, there are several dozen that make 'x10' hardware, x10 is a protocol, not just an irritating company; in fact, the protocol is older than the irritating company.

Re:The wonderous side effects of annoying advertis (1)

Spoing (152917) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774960)

Er, yes, there are several dozen that make 'x10' hardware, x10 is a protocol, not just an irritating company; in fact, the protocol is older than the irritating company.

I wasn't aware of that, so I decided to search for other companies and came up empty; some tech on the protocol and all adverts were to the same X10 company that we all (ahem) "know and love".

Since I'm missing something that should be obvious, please point me to a couple of those other companies.

Re:The wonderous side effects of annoying advertis (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7775226)

I was going to point you to my favorate, Active Home. Don't bother. I guess X10.com owns them now. Radio Shack sells X10 stuff [radioshack.com] , Sears used to. I get enough stuff at estate sales and garage sales that I haven't bought new in years. People sell used X10 stuff for under $1 per module, I find a few every year.

Re:The wonderous side effects of annoying advertis (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7775648)

Is the radio shack stuff rebadged x10 company crap? Radio Shack rebadges everything you know!

Re:The wonderous side effects of annoying advertis (1)

Tmack (593755) | more than 10 years ago | (#7783864)

Since none of the replies have yet mentioned the other companies... I use X10 stuff, only the stuff I got from the company before they started their annoying pop-up ads, back when they were basically giving it away (the $50 starter kit w/firecracker, remote and a couple mods cost $8), charging only for shipping. I did get one of their camera packs, as I couldnt find any other company selling similar things cheaply, and honestly, they work well for most stuff, tho their battery powered motion detectors suck (tend to act randomly, and change their pre-set codes when the batterys start to run low). That being said, RCA and leviton make alot of X10 compat. devices. Check out Smarthome.com [smarthome.com] , they have ALOT of home automation stuff, alot of it is X10 compat, and with the firecracker and ActiveHome(CM11a) serial controllers or similar serial based adapters, anything X10 can be controlled easily in linux. Check out the HeyU package for doin stuff with CM11A, works great in perl/cgi scripts.

TM

National Lampoon (1)

pipingguy (566974) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774244)


I think many stations are running "Christmas Vacation" [imdb.com] about now. Don't we all secretly want a crude, but well-meaning cousin Eddie to bitchslap the boss and have Beverly D'Angelo cup our balls? And have squirrel attacks from Christmas trees? The squirrel attack was the best part.

Re:National Lampoon (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7774326)

I think I've only ever seen the edited version. Where exactly does Beverly D'Angelo cup Chevy Chase's balls?

Re:National Lampoon (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7783874)

The scene when all the cops bust down the doors/windows/etc, and they are all standing still with their hands up (except her 1 hand) getting yelled at by said cops.

Blinkenlights (5, Interesting)

DRUNK_BEAR (645868) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774284)

This project reminds me of Blinkenlights... This was an awesome project where you could display a small picture/animation/play pong/other on a building using the windows and interior lights as pixels. http://blinkenlights.de/ [blinkenlights.de]

Re:Blinkenlights (1)

bleeper4 (730343) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774420)

and it just so happens that both these links (this and www.drivemeinsane.com) are included in the "Other folks who have done nutty stuff like this" link on his website...

All I want for Christmas... (4, Funny)

PetoskeyGuy (648788) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774287)

is my own T-3, my own T-3, my own T-3....

So I can have a Merry Christmas.

*sigh*

You better watch out (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7774438)

public const bool watch_out = 1;
public const bool cry != CRY;
string why; cout why;
santa.target = "town";
apvector[99] list;
for (x = 0; x list.length(); x++)
{
kid.nice = check(list[x]);
kid.nice = check(list[x]);
if kid.nice == "naughty"
naughty(kid);
if kid.nice == "nice"
nice (kid);

if kid.state == (sleep || awake)
know(kid);
if kid.state == (bad || good)
know(kid);
}

for (x = "goodness sake"); x != ""; x = x)
cout "be good!";

public const bool watch_out = 1;
public const bool cry != CRY;
string why; cout why;
santa.target = "town";

The use of "Xmas" is offensive. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7774467)

This is a creation of Jewish people because they are "offended" by the use of the word "Christ".

Jewish people hate Christ and anything to do with Christ, including and especially Christmas.

They will not write the word "Christmas" down so they replaced the name "Christ" with an "X" to "STRIKE OUT" the name of Christ.

Please be more sensitive to the MAJORITY of people that do believe in Christ and Christmas by not using the Jewish slang term "Xmas"

Thanks.

hate to be his neighbor (1)

sp00 (639381) | more than 10 years ago | (#7774733)

Talk about light pollution... It'd be like the sun is next door to you.

Asshole rapage (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7774765)

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X10 can rot in pop-under hell, for all I care (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7774990)

I put my money in companies worthy of it (and whenever I can't avoid for one reason or another).

That's not the case here and X10 can go bankrupt and take their pop-unders with them.

what's the code to execute program on motion? (1)

Cryofan (194126) | more than 10 years ago | (#7775930)

I have misterhouse running on XP. What I need to play a sound file upon motion detected. I have a ms132 up and running and everytime it picks up motion, the misterhouse GUI prints out a "garage light XA2J is on" notification. I just want to play a sound file everytime that happens....

TIA

Re:what's the code to execute program on motion? (1)

Tmack (593755) | more than 10 years ago | (#7783913)

The code the motion detectors send out is the same as if you hit the "on" button for whatever house+device code they are set for. Set your program to run on that event and it should work.

Tm

Jumped the shark last year (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7776030)

Good to see our metaphorical Fonzie's spirit wasn't broken in the attempt, though.

Why not use LED based lights? (2, Informative)

colink (119861) | more than 10 years ago | (#7777472)

LED based Christmas lights [foreverbright.com] take about 5% of the power of regular bulbs but are a lot more expensive. Given the amount of power that he's drawing, why not switch over?

GEO-location sillyness (1)

TheTomcat (53158) | more than 10 years ago | (#7777511)

"5. Some GEO-location hacks to assess what country you are coming from. Using the Perl Module Geo::IPfree, it is fairly simple to determine what country you are surfing from based on your IP address - try it now! ;-)"

Ok, so I tried it..

Your Country Name : United States
Your Country Region : North America
Your Hostname : modemcable*CUT*.mc.videotron.ca

Odd that a .ca is in the United States, no? (-:

S

Re:GEO-location sillyness (1)

Krunch (704330) | more than 10 years ago | (#7777938)

Temperature is 44.4F ... Looks like no rain in the last hour ... Humidity is 41% ... Pressure is 30.21 inches Hg ... Wind Direction is 346 and averaging 4.8 mph with gusts to 7.6 mph ...
If he can see what is the my country currency, why doesn't he use my country's (and everyone's) system of units [wikipedia.org] . What's wrong with kelvin (or celsius) degree, (hecto)Pascal and ms/s (or km/h) ?

Re:GEO-location sillyness (1)

mistered (28404) | more than 10 years ago | (#7800651)

Yeah, it seems that perl module isn't so hot. Check out hostip.info [hostip.info] for a free IP location service. It seemed decent when I tried it.

They're watching use even on xmas ;) (1)

DonCarlos (222830) | more than 10 years ago | (#7778126)

Has anyone noticed small oval shape above the house's chimney? Seems one got a good time with image processing software ;)
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