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Making Antibubbles in Beer from Belgium

Hemos posted more than 10 years ago | from the useful-stuff-beer dept.

Science 204

An anonymous reader writes "About.com reports on "Antibubbles in beer from Belgium". Scientists in Belgium have studied the movement of antibubbles (the exact opposite of regular bubbles) in Flemish beer. They found that the beer was very similar, but not the same as, dishwater. You can also learn how to make antibubbles in your kitchen from soapy water."

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Don't forget... (-1)

SCO$699FeeTroll (695565) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789573)

...to pay your $699 licensing fee you cock-smoking teabaggers.

I MAKE ANTIBUBBLES BY FARTING IN THE BATHTUB (-1)

Subject Line Troll (581198) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789575)

Now then (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7789577)

First 'Linux users are software pirates' post!

all these niggas and all these hoes in here (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7789583)

somebody here gonna fuck!

yeah, but.... (5, Funny)

eyegor (148503) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789585)

Of course, some [budweiser.com] beers are more like dishwater than others [olddominion.com] .

Re:yeah, but.... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7789800)

You've obviusly never tried MGD (Miller Genuine Draft). It's from one of the oldest brewers in the country and goes downa lot smoother than that yuppie swill you're talking about. and it dont cost $6 a six either

Re:yeah, but.... (3, Interesting)

Scott Wood (1415) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789921)

Water goes down smoother than any beer; I'd expect it to still be the case if you added enough vodka to bring it up to a typical beer's strength. However, some of us want more than just alcohol, "goes down smooth", and cheapness from our beers.

And yes, I've had MGD before. I'll pass.

Re:yeah, but.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7789951)

I think the ac was joking. He just HAD to be.

Antibubbles (5, Funny)

Staos (700036) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789587)

But does the beer explode?

Re:Antibubbles (4, Funny)

Jason1729 (561790) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789623)

Only when the Antibubbles encounter the bubbles.

Jason
ProfQuotes [profquotes.com]

Re:Antibubbles (1)

infinite9 (319274) | more than 10 years ago | (#7790050)

Wasn't Yahoo Serious working on this?

Re:Antibubbles (4, Funny)

grub (11606) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789669)


I want to know what an anti-fart smells like and how anti-splatterbum will look in the bowl.

Re:Antibubbles (5, Funny)

McDutchie (151611) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789796)

But does the beer explode?
No; it implodes.

Experiments == the Scientific Method (5, Funny)

GnrlFajita (732246) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789588)

I'm off to the liquor store, then -- in the name of science, of course!

You can make beer that tastes like dishwater? (5, Funny)

Pingular (670773) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789589)

How about making dishwater that tastes like beer?

Easy! (4, Funny)

daeley (126313) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789627)

Ingredients:

Dishwater
Beer

In sink, add beer to dishwater. Stir.

Re:Easy! (4, Funny)

Dr. Photo (640363) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789676)

That's how they make "Lite" beer. ;)

Re:Easy! (1)

bigjnsa500 (575392) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789794)

Those are the ingredients of Pearl and Lone Star.

Re:Easy! (1)

WarDancer (542700) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789679)

Oh! so that's how budweiser beer is brewed.

Simpler recipe (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7789909)

Ingredients:

Bud

In sink, add Bud. Stir. Apologize to sink.

Re:You can make beer that tastes like dishwater? (-1, Troll)

Stu Catz (728228) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789692)

i think hes talking about american beer.

Re:You can make beer that tastes like dishwater? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7789749)

i think hes talking about american beer.

No, they leave the beer out. ;)

Re:You can make beer that tastes like dishwater? (1)

SomeGuyFromCA (197979) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789780)

Ah, yes, good ol copulation-in-a-canoe stuff.

Re:You can make beer that tastes like dishwater? (1)

SonicBurst (546373) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789797)

I can't believe I'm the first to say that correctly: it's fucking close to water.

Re:You can make beer that tastes like dishwater? (1)

SomeGuyFromCA (197979) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789860)

Dern you. Someone was supposed to ask "Copulation in a canoe?" and *then* I (or you) reply "It's fucking close to water!"

Dernyoudernyoudernyou.

The Interview (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7789592)

Well now, this was something different for me. Apparently my reputation as a top-notch reporter was growing. Charlotte Church the teenage opera star had asked for me to interview her. At least I thought it was my reputation as a reporter was what got me the attention, evidently I was mistaken.

It was about 8pm when I got to Charlotte's hotel room. She had a large suite of rooms in a posh Manhattan hotel. I had to show ID before they'd even let me on the floor I was staying. When I got to her door it was slightly ajar and when I knocked on the door, it opened for me. I walked in and closed the door behind me. I looked around the room for Charlotte and said, "Hello, Ms Church? Are you here?" there was no answer. Then I noticed steam coming from the bathroom.

I walked over to the bathroom door and knocked on it. From inside I heard a small English-accented voice say, "Come in."

I opened the door and stepped through. Charlotte was submerged in the tub full of bubble bath. despite my curiosity I turned my head away from looking directly at her. "Brain Davidson, reporter for 'Star Review' Magazine," I said to her.

She smiled at me and said, "Oh I know who you are. And would you please look at me. I wouldn't have invited you in here if I was modest."

At this I looked directly at her. She was reclining in the tub submerged up to her neck with her arms behind her head. All right, I'll admit it. I wanted to see what this sexy nymph, I wanted to see all of her.

I felt the age old burning in my loins for this young teenage girl. I was a tad ashamed at myself, after all this girl was not even sixteen years old. "Sit." she said motioning to the stool in front of her dressing table, which was right beside the tub. I sat down and took out my pencil and paper. Charlotte put her leg up on the side of the tub. Rivulets of water and bubble of soap poured off of it. She ran her hand down her thigh.

And then what happened? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7789653)

Did she fart in the tub and make antibubbles?

I wonder... (5, Funny)

SargeZT (609463) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789594)

Antimatter Beer? That's a hell of a bite.

Re:I wonder... (3, Funny)

eyegor (148503) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789603)

Yeah, you have to drink to stay sober.... taxes ones bank account after a while..... sigh....

Shows what I know. (1)

Atario (673917) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789988)

Here all this time I thought the reverse of a bubble would be a droplet.

Antibubbles (5, Funny)

stanmann (602645) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789606)

Do the antibubbles make you antidrunk?? or just antisocial?

Re:Antibubbles (5, Funny)

SatanicLoveMonkey (634012) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789725)

Many a dry-t-shirt contest was sadly fueled by the aforementioned...

Re:Antibubbles (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7789786)

Does it give you an anti hangover? the more you drink the better you feel the next morning.

Re:Antibubbles (2, Funny)

techno-vampire (666512) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789917)

No, they make you knurd. So far past sober, you come out the other side.

Re:Antibubbles (3, Funny)

stanmann (602645) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789937)

On slashdot we are already knurds.

Re:Antibubbles (3, Funny)

telekon (185072) | more than 10 years ago | (#7790009)

I think RMS is a more likely a gnurd.

Bet the field research was fun (4, Funny)

Faust7 (314817) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789610)

"Not sure we saw it that time. Another round please."

New Guinness Commercial (1)

delcielo (217760) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789936)

"anti-bubbles in my Guiness?... Brilliant!!!"

Free as in? (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7789614)

Bubbles want to be free?

Dissovled gas? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7789633)

The opposite of a bubble is a dissolved gas.

Getting Tired Of All This (5, Funny)

tds67 (670584) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789640)

Dr Dorbolo said "We also found that when they die, or burst, they morph into a form of structure which we have nicknamed the jellyfish form because it looks very like a jellyfish swimming through water. It slowly moves and fades away until it disappears altogether."

Will the Slashdot reporting on SCO ever cease?

American Beers (2, Funny)

warnerve (149076) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789641)

*Insert ignorant American beer joke here*

Re:American Beers (1)

carabela (688886) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789680)

Anti-ignorant or European-ignorant?

Re:American Beers (0, Redundant)

wrmrxxx (696969) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789801)

As you wish.

Q: Why is American beer like making love in a canoe?

A: Because it's fucking close to water.

HOLY SLASHDOT ID NUMBER BATMAN! (-1)

frogsarefriendly (723785) | more than 10 years ago | (#7790019)

that is all.

Re:American Beers (2, Funny)

Abcd1234 (188840) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789828)

Damn, I hate ignorant American beer. It's bad enough it tastes like crap, but it's stupid, too!

Re:American Beers (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7789956)

That beer was so ignorant, it confused Mexico with Canada on a map AND thinks Saddam had something to do with 9/11.

drink less, hit google more (2, Interesting)

Mantorp (142371) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789642)

We've known this about Guiness [fluent.com] for years

Re:drink less, hit google more (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7789700)

I hate to tell you, but, your link says nothing about antibubbles.

Re:drink less, hit google more (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7789738)


someone didn't read the fucking articleee!

Re:drink less, hit google more (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7789834)

A good karma whore NEVER reads the article.

Please excuse the poster (1)

cavemanf16 (303184) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789643)

They linked to an 'About.com' article, and therefore must have been drinking too much beer this afternoon.

Thank you.

Re:Please excuse the poster (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7790044)

Worse than that, all their unvisited links are purple. Trinity dies at the end of Matrix Reloaded. I was about to read the article when I noticed these links that I had apparently visited before, which had me most confused since I did not remember it. I thought I was losing my mind.

I don't drink and this is why (3, Funny)

77Punker (673758) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789645)

"...dishwater"

Antibubbles bursting (5, Interesting)

hurtstotouchfire (664278) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789649)

Dr Dorbolo said "We also found that when they die, or burst, they morph into a form of structure which we have nicknamed the jellyfish form because it looks very like a jellyfish swimming through water. It slowly moves and fades away until it disappears altogether."

For anyone who's seen a slow motion video of a bubble bursting, that sounds like it looks very similar. The whole forming and bursting of antibubbles is interesting, because from the articles it sounds like they're very similar to normal bubbles. That seems like it would imply some kind of air-counterpart to surface tension.

Re:Antibubbles bursting (1)

bar-agent (698856) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789993)

Antibubbles: Almost, but not quite, entirely unlike bubbles. ...or...

Antibubbles: Just like an bubble, but different.

Re:Antibubbles bursting (3, Interesting)

Megasphaera Elsdenii (54465) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789998)

> That seems like it would imply some kind of air-counterpart to surface tension.

No; the general term is interface tension, and its behaviour and magnitude is a function of the media on both sides of the interface. In case one of the media is air, it's called the surface tension (of beer, in the current case), but it implicitly involves the air as well.

these look like bicelles (5, Interesting)

McDrewbie (530348) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789656)

At least looking at the picture for makign antibubbles with dishwater, these merely look like bicelles. Basically, the detergents line up so that their hydrophobic tails interact and their hydrophilic head groups form a barrier on each side, just like a lipid bilayer in a cell membrane. Air is in the tail layer, and water inside and outside.

Re:these look like bicelles (1)

Dr.Enormous (651727) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789838)

The name "antibubbles" is a little dramatic--considering that this should be an expected result of mixing a bunch of air and a detergent. What is surprising--to me, anyway--is that beer would have anything in it capable of doing that.

scientists and beer (4, Insightful)

joeldg (518249) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789660)

sort of makes you wonder what the relationship is between science and beer with the amount of research that has gone into beer.

I mean.. how many articles have been on slashdot about "scientists discover why bubbles in beer go up/down/sideways in space/a vacuum/on the moon" etc etc.. Seems like hundreds over the years..

I am not complaining.. I mean, I sit there and look into my beer and wonder about the bubbles sometimes.. just wondering who is paying for this research?

Re:scientists and beer (3, Insightful)

pclminion (145572) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789712)

I am not complaining.. I mean, I sit there and look into my beer and wonder about the bubbles sometimes.. just wondering who is paying for this research?

Wise people who understand that the applications of a theory or effect may go far beyond the scope of the original experiment?

Re:scientists and beer (2, Funny)

illuminata (668963) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789850)

You mean it wasn't from the Dean Martin Foundation for Scientific Research?

Re:scientists and beer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7790001)

just wondering who is paying for this research?


It's just efficiency.


Those scientists that study non-beer things have to put their research on hold when they head out to the pub after a long day in the lab.


Those that study beer can effectively work on it all day long, even when they're supposedly kicking back a few.


The people that give out the grants obviously prefer those scientists that research instead of wasting time in pubs.

I for one... (0, Offtopic)

elFarto the 2nd (709099) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789663)

I for one welcome our new anti-bubble overlord

Regards
elFarto

Antibeer... (1)

iluvgfx (685312) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789671)

... Antibeer in beer!!!

Bubbles and antibubbles (0, Redundant)

TheRealNecator (663767) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789710)

Will they explode when the come together?

Re:Bubbles and antibubbles (2, Interesting)

hurtstotouchfire (664278) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789782)

It'd be difficult because bubbles by their definition are suspended in air, and antibubbles by their definition are suspended in water. But If they were large enough they might meet somewhere around the surface of the water, or if we just call bubbles air pockets in water, then they could meet.

If they met, it looks like they'd probably end up forming a larger bubble or antibubble depending on which of the two was more stable.

Picture: Large glob of air suspended in water touches hollow sphere of air (anti-bubble). I'd guess that the antibubble would collapse, perhaps partially doing a 'jellyfish effect' but probably largely the air would reform a bubble with the original bubble. Perhaps it'd go the other way and the air from the bubble would flow in and enlarge the anti-bubble's surface area. It'd probably depend also on the mixture, whether it was more bubble or anti-bubble friendly.

Can anyone find anything to the effect of which is more stable? Which one would make it in a fight, bubbles or antibubbles?

When (1)

Unoti (731964) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789719)

I read that article, and was thinking: "Huh?" A lot of the time. I feel better after reading everyone's comments here... it doesn't look like I was alone.

Flemish beer (1)

CharAznable (702598) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789731)

Hmm, I've never heard anyone claim that Flemish beer is like dishwater... If dishwater was anything like Flemish beer, I'd drink dishwater all day! Of course, Westvleteren 12 is the greatest beer in the world.

I wonder if (4, Funny)

jptechnical (644454) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789746)

O'Douls [odouls.com] can produce antibubbles? And if so would it then be an Antibeer Antibubble? Or is it still just gross.

I had beer in Antwerp.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7789748)

....it seemed normal to be, I could still burp!

Re:I had beer in Antwerp.... (1)

The Unabageler (669502) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789858)

i think you had too many...

B/AB reactions? (0, Redundant)

Phoenix (2762) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789770)

But what happens if a bubble and an Anti-bubble collide? Does the resulting reaction result in the total annihilation of your beer?

Could the chain reaction cascade into other beers?

The results would be just too horrific to contemplate.

Phoenix

Anti-Bubbles (3, Funny)

lordvdr (682194) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789776)

So presumably they had to split the beer atom [imdb.com] right?

Re:Anti-Bubbles (1)

JoeCommodore (567479) | more than 10 years ago | (#7790022)

So does this lead to "Beer Fusion?" (Wait a minute, Ice Cold Beer Fusion!) or is it just some Star Trekish bubble-antibubble reaction process?

what does (4, Funny)

theMerovingian (722983) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789791)

an antiburp sound like?

Re:what does (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7789893)

*hiccup*

Re:what does (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7789926)

Something between one hand clapping and that proverbial tree we keep hearing about.

Re:what does (1)

NegativeK (547688) | more than 10 years ago | (#7790007)

You know, when you burp, air comes out.. So, since anti-bubbles have beer, when you antiburp.. Well, let's just say that people who drink too much antiburp a lot.

antibubbles and decomposition (5, Interesting)

photoblur (552862) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789792)

An antibubble is a droplet of fluid surrounded by an gasseous membrane, as opposed to a fluid membrane around air. Of course, creating a gasseous membrane is a much more difficult proposition than creating a fluid membrane, which is why this is such an interesting discovery. (well, that and because it relates science and beer...)

When discussing the death of the antibubble, Dr. Dorbolo states:

We also found that when they die, or burst, they morph into a form of structure which we have nicknamed the jellyfish form because it looks very like a jellyfish swimming through water. It slowly moves and fades away until it disappears altogether.
Wouldn't an antibubble just decompose to form a regular bubble of gas within the liquid? Or is he saying that the gas is re-dissolved into the beer?

Re:antibubbles and decomposition (3, Informative)

hurtstotouchfire (664278) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789900)

I'd expect that in a pure liquid (They initially felt that it would be impossible to form antibubbles - it is impossible to form antibubbles (or bubbles) using pure water, alcohol or oil - a surfactant is needed.) any potential antibubbles would indeed decompose into regular bubbles. (see previous comment)

From what I can gather, the difference is the way air reacts in a liquid containing surfactants: Definition: a linear molecule with a hydrophilic (attracted to water) head and a hydrophobic (repelled by water) end. Surfactants tend to clump together when in solution - forming a surface between the fluid and air with the hydrophobic tails in the air and the hydrophilic heads in the fluid.
It actually sounds very similar to the formation of a bubble, but in this case, before the surface tension forces it into the shape of a filled sphere, the two ends of the shape are attracted to each other and attatch, trapping a globule of water. I can definitly see hydrophobic/hydrophilic forces being stronger, or at least quicker than brute surface tension. Instead of it just being a matter of the two substances (the air and water) trying to group their molecules together, there's the added draw of satisfying the hydrophobic/hydrophilic ends of the molecule by butting them up against air and water respectively.

Re:antibubbles and decomposition (1)

photoblur (552862) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789925)

Perhaps it works like this: antibubbles float downward, when they burst their membranes decompose to air "droplets" and "fall" upwards.... thus employing the opposite vertical motion that a normal bubble would.

(a pocket of air within liquid is not a "true" bubble... [about.com] )

Re:antibubbles and decomposition (3, Informative)

Da w00t (1789) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789941)

The most common place I've seen "antibubbles" (a globe of liquid floating ontop of other liquid, separated by air) has been in puddles of rain water when it's raining, and sometimes inside my 2lt bottle of coke. These "antibubbles" are really just small balls of liquid, that float and roll around ontop of another liquid, until surface tension gives way.

Raindrops (1)

mooingyak (720677) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789810)

I think the 'exact opposite' of bubbles would actually be raindrops.

Re:Raindrops (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7789892)

The exact opposite of a bubble within a liquid, yes. But a bubble is actually a gas, trapped within a thin membrane of liquid, in gas. So the exact opposite is like they said, a liquid, trapped within a thin membrane of gas, in liquid.

I thought the headline said antiBODIES (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7789825)

I was all set to feed a cold, intoxicate a fever until I re-read it.

come on folks (1)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789827)

all of this talk of drunken beer revelry studying bubbles in the guise of science is just irresponsible

you see, it's almost new years eve, so we should be talking about drunken champagne revelry studying bubbles in the guise of science

hmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7789832)

Did'nt they try this in Young Einstein?

Water-air-water (2, Informative)

manganese4 (726568) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789863)

Just as a bubble is a spherical liquid membrane separating two gases (One gas being inside the spherical membrane), another definition for anti-bubble is a hollow, spherical extent of gas separting two liquids (One liquid being inside the spherical extent of gas).

I was just talking about this last night (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7789868)

One of my friends and I were talking about beer... I don't drink beer because it taste bad, so we were discussing ways it could be made to taste better. I pretty much came to the conclusion for beer to taste good, it would have to not be beer anymore. While dishwater isn't beer, it's not much of an improvement.

flemish, or walloon? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7789874)

I'm not sure why the poster said the experiment was on Flemish beer, since the scientists in the article were from France and Liege. Liege is not in Flanders (the Dutch-speaking part), it is in Wallonia (the French-speaking part).

(this from an American living in Belgium)...

Re:flemish, or walloon? (1)

physicsguide (704435) | more than 10 years ago | (#7790031)

while aware of the flanders/walloon thing, i wasn't sure which part was which and flemish is better known as an adjective. Joe (the poster - i wondee why my name vanished fromt he posting)

Somebody tell NASA! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7789876)

A bubble-antibubble drive could be used to probe the outer rim of Uranus.

antibubbles! (1)

phiala (680649) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789896)

I was a proto-geek at a young age... when supposed to be washing dishes, I spent a lot of time making antibubbles in the suds. And regular bubbles. And, well, pretty much anything but washing dishes. Or maybe I was just a well-developed procrastinator. If only I'd been old enough to make antibubbles in beer! Time for some make-up experimentation... And if this is only now being studied, then I was waaaay ahead of my time.

Misnomer (4, Informative)

Angostura (703910) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789923)

"Scientists in Belgium have studied the movement of antibubbles (the exact opposite of regular bubbles)"

I always get a bit annoyed when I see this type of thing. Calling them 'antibubbles' makes them sound exciting, saying they are 'the exact opposite of bubbles' makes them sound intriguing.

The exact opposite of a bubble would be an airborn droplet.

These are 'hollow bubbles' if anything

we need to put a submarine inside one. (1)

odenshaw (471011) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789927)

Send er down capin'.

best & worst online 'dating services' of 2003? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7789928)

you know robbIE's is won of them, right?

vadating.con?

Link to real article (4, Informative)

gnalle (125916) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789930)

[arxiv.org]
Here is a link to an article . I looks like they produce a cell membrane with air in the middle.
This membrane is stable because the hydrophobic chains of the surfactant molecules are slightly electronegative.

but... (0, Redundant)

rk2z (649358) | more than 10 years ago | (#7789966)

has the beer atom been split yet?

".. almost, but not quite, entirely unlike .." (1)

yourruinreverse (564043) | more than 10 years ago | (#7790051)

Someone had to point it out:

"very similar, but not the same as, dishwater"

is almost, but not quite, entirely like:

"almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea" (Douglas Adams).
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