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Bollywood Embraces Kazaa Movie Downloads

CmdrTaco posted more than 10 years ago | from the and-they-make-such-cute-movies dept.

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MaximusTheGreat writes "While Hollywood tries to debate how to tackle P2P movie downloads, Bollywood the world's largest film industry has decided to embrace it. This could usher in a new era of legal movie downloads like iTunes for music, as Bollywood, the Indian film industry produces 1000 movies a year and outstrips hollywood by almost 3:1. Theaters worldwide sold some 3.6 billion tickets to Bollywood films last year, compared with Hollywood's 2.6 billion. In revenue terms Bollywood is already larger than the British, Hong Kong, Japanese and Italian movie industry and is growing at a very fast rate."

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HOORAY FOR BOLLYWOOD! (-1, Redundant)

thepuma (721283) | more than 10 years ago | (#7794883)

TEXT OF ARTICLE:

BANGALORE (Reuters) - India's film makers are offering Internet movie downloads on web site Kazaa in a move that could lower costs and boost revenues in Bollywood, the world's most prolific film production center.

Some 35 producers will be able to sell movies using Kazaa, a file-sharing program owned by Australia's Sharman Networks Ltd., according to company statement.

"In a distribution deal struck between Sharman's partner Altnet, Inc...and IndiaFM.com, one of the most popular Bollywood entertainment sites, Kazaa's estimated 60 million global users will gain access to previously unavailable content," the statement said.

The industry started its first download last month when Kazaa's users were offered "Supari" (A Contract for Killing), a slick thriller, for $2.99. The file was programmed to self destruct after being viewed and could not be copied.

"It was a thrill for me to become the first to do it, in an industry which had ignored the Internet, or did not pay enough attention," said Meenu Kumar, the film's executive producer.

Bombay's Hindi cinema dominates India's movie industry, which churns out about 1,000 films every year.

Only about 10 million of India's one billion people are Internet users. But with another 20 million Indians overseas, the Internet could become a worldwide box office for Bollywood.

IndiaFM's customers include Mukta Arts, controlled by director Subhash Ghai, and Tata Infomedia Ltd. .

"The deal means that Bollywood producers can now distribute movies, music and other large, rich media files online that would be too large and expensive to host on a traditional Web site," the statement said.

LONG-TERM GAME

"We are starting with promotional content but we are in the process which will allow movies and songs on a pay-per-view mode in the new year," Saleem Mobhani, co-founder of IndiaFM, which is run by Virtual Marketing India Pvt Ltd., told Reuters.

Industry officials do not expect quick revenue, but see long-term potential in India, where movie distribution deals are sold via territory rights, roughly for each state, and DVD and television broadcast rights are sold separately.
"There will come a time soon when it (the Internet) will become a solo territory on its own," but could be at the expense of video disk sellers, said Kumar.

"More than cost efficiency, it is very convenient for non-resident Indians," Kumar said. "And I sincerely think it curbs piracy."

Hollywood has been slow to embrace downloads, seeing the medium as a threat to existing revenues. Kazaa has faced criticism and opposition in the industry, but is confident that secure Internet distribution can be safe and legal.

A survey by Britain's Informa Media Group said this year that Internet movie sales could be worth more than $800 million a year by 2010, but said illegal downloads were already costing as much as $92 million in lost revenue.

Re:HOORAY FOR BOLLYWOOD! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7794919)


MOD THIS KARMA WHORE FUNNY, not interesting or insightful so he doesn't get karma. There's no change of /.ing Reuters.

KARMA WHORING AT ITS MOST BLATANT (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7794981)

Dude, are we supposed to believe we slashdotted REUTERS? And on the first post?

Karma Karma Karma Karma Whoooooooore

Yes, It's true. (1)

thepuma (721283) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795009)

What can I say....it's a really slow day at work. :-)

OMG (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7794887)

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No kidding, Spanky. (5, Funny)

grub (11606) | more than 10 years ago | (#7794890)


Hollywood has been slow to embrace downloads

Understatement of the year.

Re:No kidding, Spanky. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7794954)

Of course it is growing, they have all that money from taking your JOBS.

Why YES, I WOULD like fries with that.

Kernel 2.0.40-rc6 released 36 months ago (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7795127)

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Bollywood movies are terrible, though. (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7794894)

A good analog would be if iTunes only offered JPop.

Re:Bollywood movies are terrible, though. (3, Informative)

commo1 (709770) | more than 10 years ago | (#7794915)

Not true.... Many filsm coming out of that part of the world are gaining fans all around the world. It is truly a refreshing change from the trash we usually get here. There are going to be some duds. I am surprised, though, that they sell more tickets than Hollywood does. The net gross is nowhere near as LA.....

FILSM?! eat my shit faggot (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7794970)

n/t

Re:Bollywood movies are terrible, though. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7795033)

Gaining fans in other third-world countries where the movies are similarly crap, you mean.

In all third-world countries where Western movies are available, they dominate. Case closed.

Hollywood movies are terrible, too! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7794930)

But at least there are explosions and breasts to keep you sedated for the typical hour and a half. In Bollywood the explosions and breasts are replaced with half-hour dance numbers. :(

My milkshake brings all the boys in the yard (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7794957)

And they're like, it's better than ya's, damn right, it's better than ya's, I could teach you, but I'd have to charge.

C'mon you KNOW you were thinking of this.... (4, Funny)

i_want_you_to_throw_ (559379) | more than 10 years ago | (#7794895)

Hooray for Bollywood
That screwy, ballyhooey Bollywood!
Where any office boy
Or young mechanic
can be a panic
With just a good-looking pan
And any barmaid
Can be a star maid
If she dances with or without a fan
Hooray for Bollywood!
Where you're terrific
if you're even good!
Where anyone at all from Shirley Temple
to Aimee Semple
is equally understood
Come on and try your luck
You could be Donald Duck
Hooray for Bollywood!

Hooray for Bollywood!
That phony, super Coney, Bollywood
They come from Chilicothes and Padukahs
with their bazookas
To see their names up in lights
All armed with photos
From local rotos
With their hair in curlers
and legs in tights
Hooray for Bollywood!
You may be homely in your neighborhood.
Still, if you think that you can be an actor
See Mister Factor
He'd make a monkey look good!
Within a half an hour
You'll look like Tyrone Power
Hooray for Bollywood!

Re:C'mon you KNOW you were thinking of this.... (4, Insightful)

TobyWong (168498) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795041)

Let me guess you were in the drama club. Probably got a dance routine to go along with it too.

Re:C'mon you KNOW you were thinking of this.... (4, Funny)

AKnightCowboy (608632) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795097)

You're lucky this probably falls under the parody clause (for now) of the copyright laws or you'd have some RIAA lawyer on your ass right about now.

India (1, Troll)

rkz (667993) | more than 10 years ago | (#7794897)

India is truley a rising nation, it remind s me very much of the United States. Both are very similar countries in some ways, exploited by the british for all their worth, but when the US won its indipendence is grew to become a major world power.

India won indipendence only 55 years ago, and is fast turning into an intelectual and finincial world power. They have a space program, nuclear wepons and huge investment from global companies such as IBM and Dell.

It looks as though American and European jobs are being outsourced there in droves.. I think in another 50 years that India will be beside the US in terms of being a world superpower. In a hundred it will be the most powerful nation in the world.

Re:India (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7794922)

In a hundred it will be the most powerful nation in the world.

Not if they can't learn to use contraceptives.

Re:India (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7794934)

> intelectual and finincial

Uh...you said it, chief. Back to goat herding for you.

WARNING: GOATSE LINK (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7794941)

Parent's sig is goatse link.

Re:India (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7794943)

Never trust the academic opinion of someone who can't spell intellectual and financial.

Re:India (3, Interesting)

cygnusx (193092) | more than 10 years ago | (#7794947)

I think in another 50 years that India will be beside the US in terms of being a world superpower. In a hundred it will be the most powerful nation in the world

Not unless they figure out how to think as one nation [blogspot.com] instead of several chauvinistic states. Oh, and get rid of the pork-bellied [indianexpress.com] ruling class that has held the country back so far.

Re:India (1, Funny)

mrmaster (535266) | more than 10 years ago | (#7794951)

I don't know about being like the United States and all but I do say they have a great creative imagination over there. Bollywood is such an original name!

Re:India (2, Insightful)

rahvin112 (446269) | more than 10 years ago | (#7794969)

The social differences in particular the lack of workforce desire to take risks will prevent India from achieving any type of superpower status. Until there is major cultural change in India the country isn't suited to be anything more than an outsourcing hub for the world.

Re:India (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7794985)

This guy is quite possibly one of the best Karma trolls in a long time. My hats off to you.

~Zig

Re:India (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7795057)

Hold on there, don't go insulting trolls by association.

Re:India (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7795073)

And like this post isn't a troll for karma.

Re:India (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7795001)

India is not similar to the USA very much at all.

The British have not been the dam holding back the Indians from prosperity, Indian culture has been.

British rule did not stop Hong Kong Chinese or Aussies from prospering to second-world status. Israel was only formed recently, thanks to a British grant and UN intercession, yet is a world power today.

In an analogy to the formative USA, the denizens of India would be more suited, no irony intended, in the role of "Indian" as opposed to colonist.

The problems in India stem from its culture, not its past status as a colony.

Re:India (0, Troll)

elohim (512193) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795010)

In 100? More like 15. America is dead; manufacturing is what made America a superpower, and manufacturing in America is decrepit. Hello China and India!

Re:India (1)

grub (11606) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795061)


manufacturing is what made America a superpower

No, post-war industrialization and the cold war buildup is what made America a superpower. With no obvious "us or them" enemy (ie: the USSR) the economy will suffer. They can't justify spending billions on arming up to protect against an enemy that doesn't exist.

Re:India (2, Funny)

sznupi (719324) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795017)

Wait, are you trying to say that a prerequisite for superpower is being once ruled by UK? ;]

Re:India (1)

R33MSpec (631206) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795020)

"..huge investment from global companies such as IBM and Dell.."

Both are US companies which have certain 'interests' I'm sure.

...I think in another 50 years that India will be beside the US in terms of being a world superpower. In a hundred it will be the most powerful nation in the world...

That's a very big call. I have no doubt India is becoming a richer and more powerful nation (I happened to be there in June for work). But It will take way more than 50 even 100 years though for most of the part it is still very much an 'old world' country.

PARENT IS A TROLL AND KARMA WHORE - MOD DOWN (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7795024)

his sig is goatse, his homepage is a piece of shit, and his journal is full of his trolls.

GRAND-PARENT JUST MODIFIED HIS HOMEPAGE (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7795074)

his sig is still a redirect, and journal remains unchanged.

Re:India (2, Insightful)

pirhana (577758) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795036)

>> India won indipendence only 55 years ago, and is fast turning into an intelectual and finincial world power. They have a space program, nuclear wepons and huge investment from global companies such as IBM and Dell.

How does wasting the resources to acquire nuclear weapons help to become a intellectual or financial power ?

Re:India (1)

atari2600 (545988) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795115)

The nuclear weapons program is to just make sure the British don't think about coming back to India again - same for China or the US.

Re:India (4, Funny)

TheMidget (512188) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795100)

India is truley a rising nation, it remind s me very much of the United States.

I think in another 50 years that India will be beside the US in terms of being a world superpower. In a hundred it will be the most powerful nation in the world.

And in 200, it will conquer Texas for its petrol... Yeah!

Re:India (1)

GoofyBoy (44399) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795129)

>They have a space program, nuclear wepons and huge investment from global companies such as IBM and Dell.

How is this different from China?

The biggest thing that America has that cannot be duplicated is that they are bordered by huge oceans and very friendly countries.

India has lots of issues just under the surface such as Pakastan.

d00d, my server is b0rk3d! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7794904)

Good god. That banner ad is go lame it's insulting. Die |30|3...DIE DIE DIE

But... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7794908)

at least SOME films that come out of Hollywood show traces of originality and thinking outside the box. Every Bollywood film i've seen on TV could've been created with some sort of VB app.

Re:But... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7795086)

How do u think they churn out so many movies every year? :-))

Bollywood (4, Insightful)

Esion Modnar (632431) | more than 10 years ago | (#7794912)

Well... since they have them beat on quantity, they must have them beat on quality.

CURRY curry (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7794913)

CURRY curry CURRY curry CURRY curry CURRY curry!

my roommate in college (3, Interesting)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 10 years ago | (#7794918)

from new dehli, said every bollywood movie has the same plot:

2 boys, separated at birth, fall in love with the same woman, except one is rich/ powerful/ a cop and the other is poor/ a farmer/ a thief... they fight each other for the woman, and there is much singing and dancing throughout

he said that is basically every movie made in bollywood ;-P

says a lot (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7794975)

That says a lot about the so-called creativity of the Indians.

it was a joke (1)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795034)

it was meant to be funny... of course bollywood makes lots of different kinds of films, except that in the past they have tended towards operatic song and dance numbers, so thus my roommate's joke rings funny

but it wasn't meant for you to draw some stupid ignorant racist conclusion

consider yourself a provincial backwoods hick on a global cosmopolitan website

then maybe you can adjust your opinions accordingly before you post

Re:my roommate in college (1)

bheer (633842) | more than 10 years ago | (#7794992)

The worst part is, he was right :-( Indian movies [time.com] suck. Very high on melodrama, and very little originality in plot.

I guess when you have millions of poverty-stricken, not-very-well-educated Indians going to the theater, large doses of escapist fantasy doesn't hurts.

Re:my roommate in college (4, Informative)

mirko (198274) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795029)

He obviously has not seen
  • Devdas [imdb.com] (modern Romeo&Juliet like),
  • Lagaan [imdb.com] (cricket against the Brits)
  • nor even Monsoon wedding [imdb.com] (she prepairs to get married with a guy she doesn't know)...

  • Where are the testosteroned rivals, here ?

it was a joke (4, Insightful)

circletimessquare (444983) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795053)

of course bollywood makes lots of different movies

but an indian can make fun of his nation's movie industry if he wants to, just like americans like to say hollywood is too liberal/ too gun crazy, when the truth is of course more complex

Re:it was a joke (1)

Xzzy (111297) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795118)

> hollywood is too liberal/ too gun crazy, when the truth is of course more complex

as a natural born citizen of the US, I think it's pretty safe for me to say that no it's not more complex, and that in fact, hollywood actually IS gun crazy. ;)

If you define "liberal" as "lots of boobs and sex", then yes, hollywood is too liberal as well.

Re:my roommate in college (1)

cygnusx (193092) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795096)

Devdas fits into the usual Bollywood stereotype very neatly. In fact, considering it was first made back in the 30s, it was probably responsible for setting the moronic melodrama trend that permeates Bollywood to this day.

Lagaan - melodramatic crap. They had balls to nominate it for an Oscar.

Monsoon Wedding - Hindi movie != Bollywood. Mira Nair isn't a mainstream director. Monsoon Wedding did about as well in India as Spirited Away did in the US.

Re:my roommate in college (5, Funny)

.!.+(0.o)+.!. (671291) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795044)

every bollywood movie has the same plot
you mean like Hollywood movies?

Re:my roommate in college (2, Informative)

N7DR (536428) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795085)

from new dehli, said every bollywood movie has the same plot

Well, he's wrong :-)

If I were to list my all-time favourite top-five films, it would include one from Bollywood: Lagaan, whose plot (apart from the singing and dancing) doesn't look anything like what you describe. And FWIW, the tunes are simply wonderful. It's the best soundtrack I have.

It is, of course, true that Bollywood makes a lot of what Westerners would think of as junk. But then, so does Hollywood.

It will be really interesting to see whether having easier access to their movies over the Internet will encourage Bollywood to create more movies of the Lagaan style rather than those simply created for home consumption.

It will also be interesting to see if Bollywood is still enthusiastic after someone finds a way around the "The file was programmed to self destruct after being viewed and could not be copied." limitation mentioned in the article.

Not gonna work... (3, Insightful)

seanyboy (587819) | more than 10 years ago | (#7794923)

From the taking on titanic link: My guess is that at 8 per cent of the cost we can achieve 90 per cent of the production quality of any of their movies. The last mile will cost us more, given the current status of the technology available here-but even that we can achieve at, say, another 8 per cent. This is why Bollywood will ultimately fail. Sure, they have a bigger market, and they make more movies, but Hollywood knows the cost (and value) of western movies. The Indian distributers can flood Kazaa with as many Bollywood movies as they want, and they can expend that extra 8% of effort, but very few people in the west will spend money on this.

Re:Not gonna work... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7794984)

Hollywood knows the cost (and value) of western movies

Most westerns aren't terribly expensive. It's the SCI-FI, and fantasy genres that cost so much. *rimshot*

Largest? (0, Flamebait)

Scareduck (177470) | more than 10 years ago | (#7794928)

Largest? By what metric? Most films produced? Who's counting and how?

More BS from showbiz folks. Nothing to see here. Move on...

Re:Largest? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7795056)

I am pretty sure this comes from an american who has rarely ventured outside his small town... heck it can even come from a "cosmopolitan" american. America is one giant country of uniformity - no differences - nothing changes - except the landscape. you see the same burger kings, taco bells and chevron gas stations all over the place.
Au contraire, the rest of the world has a ton of diversity and color. And there are things out there which americans are not even aware of.

Did you know that bollywood movies are real popular in africa, far east and russia? they are popular even in UK. Ofcourse, they are pretty popular in Indian subcontinent (including in sworn enemy-state Pakistan). Now thats a significant proportion of the world population, if didnt already notice.

Re:Largest? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7795120)

Maybe you should read the entire summary before posting...

Theaters worldwide sold some 3.6 billion tickets to Bollywood films last year, compared with Hollywood's 2.6 billion.

hollywood vs bollywood (0)

jbellis (142590) | more than 10 years ago | (#7794932)

hollywood made... hmm... 4 movies this year I wanted to see, and bollywood made... hmm... zero.

so the movie ratio is 3 but the crap ratio is infinite! wow, sign me up! :)

Re:hollywood vs bollywood (1)

Stiletto (12066) | more than 10 years ago | (#7794990)

How do you know you don't want to see them?

Name 5 of those thousands of movies that came out of Bollywood this year without doing a web search.

You can't, can you? So STFU.

re: hollywood vs bollywood (1)

ed.han (444783) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795048)

well said. i just discovered that my local cable channel actually runs an indian film movie preview program. if you're not indian or a serious film buff, the likelihood of knowing of any indian films is somewhere very near 0.

but just b/c you don't know it doesn't mean it's noise, not signal.

ed

Friends, this is classic - "The Underdog" (-1)

Amsterdam Vallon (639622) | more than 10 years ago | (#7794935)

The underdog is always trying to undercut the big guy on top.

Look at music downloads. The only bands offering them for free are independent artists.

Now look at movie downloads. The only studios offering them for free is this so-called "Bollywood" arena filled with very average, very Indian-themed movies that no American or European would ever want to watch.

The underdog always acts drastically, and until Hollywood becomes the underdog, we will not see any American films on iTunes of Kazza or DC++ for free.

Outsourcing (4, Funny)

IPFreely (47576) | more than 10 years ago | (#7794936)

It looks like the tech industry isn't the only one being outsourced to India.

Re:Outsourcing (1)

OneFix at Work (684397) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795058)

Not really, these studios don't make anything that even touches Hollywood in terms of Plot/Acting/etc...

Lets just say that if a producer in the US has a movie to make, India is probably the LAST place he's going to look to shoot it...

Too many links! (0, Offtopic)

i_am_syco (694486) | more than 10 years ago | (#7794940)

My browser is about to short circuit! TOO MANY LINKS! Of course, it could be because I'm using netscape 4...

They've done what? (2, Interesting)

ActionPlant (721843) | more than 10 years ago | (#7794944)

What have I seen that they've done? This is interesting and great news indeed if I can get films I actually like. Quality over quantity, remember. Looks like I'll be doing some googling this afternoon.

Either way, it IS a good step, and great news.

Damon,

Re:They've done what? (1)

OneFix at Work (684397) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795136)

Nothing [planetbollywood.com] ...

Their movies are kind of thrown together...mostly stuff that wouldn't even make a TeeVee movie here...

The truth is, if any of their movies were half-way decent, we would be seeing Dubs and Subs of them available in stores, like we do with Chinese and Japanese films...

Bollywood (5, Funny)

kjba (679108) | more than 10 years ago | (#7794945)

Sounds like this Bollywood thing bas a buge and beroic future abead.

Re:Bollywood (1)

frenetic3 (166950) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795075)

babababa, mod parent up! :P

-fren

*Sigh* (2, Funny)

pHatidic (163975) | more than 10 years ago | (#7794949)

Bollywood Embraces Kazaa Movie Downloads

Just when we thought the typos and lack of editing on slashdot couldn't get any worse, we get 'Bollywood' in the title. This is a sad, sad day for slashdot. (Note I did not RTFBlurb before posting.)

Re:*Slap* (1)

drakewyrm (573759) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795028)

You probably should have. RTFBed, that is.

good movies (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7794950)

Good Bollywood movies you should look into are.. Kuch kuch hota hai, khabi kushi khabi gham, american desi, koi mil gaya, etc...

programmed to self-destruct? (2)

drakewyrm (573759) | more than 10 years ago | (#7794953)

Man, would I like to know what goofy kind of file format they're using for that one. Probably some variant of DRM. Anybody know?

Currynet Coming Soon! (-1)

bcolflesh (710514) | more than 10 years ago | (#7794958)

Fastest sharing protocol ever developed - cleaning the Internet SuperColon with DesiPower!

Obg. Simpson Reference (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7794960)

Troy: Apu living with the Simpsons?! It happened. And here's a scene you didn't see.
Apu: I'm hoping you enjoy this movie. It made every Indian critic's top 400 list.
Woman: [singing] Love love love love love! I'm in love with lovely Johnny.
[an Indian man breaks through a window and curses in Hindi at three sitting men]
[they all start dancing]
Bart: This movie you rented sucks.
Homer: No it doesn't, it's funny! Their clothes are different from my clothes. [laughs] Look at what they're wearing! [laughs more]

Now... (5, Funny)

Fizzlewhiff (256410) | more than 10 years ago | (#7794964)

Only if I was fluent in Hindi and enjoyed musicals.

Indian movies are so awful (0, Troll)

Magnus Pym (237274) | more than 10 years ago | (#7794966)

that nobody would want to pirate them anyway.

I'm not kidding, have you seen any? Atrocious acting, bizarre themes, songs all over the place, fat, overweight actors/actresses playing characters 30 years younger than their real ages. Music blatantly copied from western movies. These movies make Gigli look like The Godfather.

Magnus.

Bad plots (2, Interesting)

Heartz (562803) | more than 10 years ago | (#7794972)

The thing about bollywood movies is that they all have the same plot with slight changes and new songs. It's always

  1. Boy Meets Girl
  2. Girl doesn't like boy at first
  3. Somehow girl falls in love
  4. Dance dance dance, sing sing sing
  5. Girls father objects because of race/religion/caste/money
  6. Big fights and all
  7. Boy finally wins over father and gets the girl
  8. Everybody lives happily ever after

99% of the stories in Bollywood have this same plot line and seriously, it's amazing they chalk up 3.6 billion tickets.

Re:Bad plots (3, Informative)

sisukapalli1 (471175) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795064)

Bad plots are very successful in US too. Take, for example, the success of "reality TV". The only themes are greed (the final prize money) and lust (think, all the junk from Fox). Everything else is sort of padded on just like one would pad on a plot line in a pr0n film.

S

Re:Bad plots (1)

nnnneedles (216864) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795089)

They probably count "theaters" in africa, that consist of a 13" television set, a video casette, and most probably an extremely low entrance fee.

At least, that's how some of the theatres looked like in a documentary about bollywood that I saw on Discovery.

Re:Bad plots (1)

gavri (663286) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795095)


If you're looking for a story, you're missing the point.
P.S: I, personally, can't stand bollyood movies

Bollywood pragmatism (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7794977)

how do they combat piracy? very simple. audio cds
are priced at Rs. 100 (approx $2) and movie dvds
are priced around Rs. 300 (you do the math). At
those prices, even the usually cost-conscious
Indian has a huge incentive to buy legal rather
than pirated.

I live in America, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7794978)

You insensitive Clod! BollyWood is to hollywood as Kenny G is to music.

goodness gracious me! (3, Insightful)

tuxette (731067) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795006)

Good on ya, Bollywood!

For those of you not familiar with Bollywood flicks, you kind of have to watch them in a similar way you watch Hong Kong kung-fu flicks. You have similar cheeziness factors, recurring themes (boy meets/loses girl and singing and dancing in one, "you killed my father..." and fighting in the other), and so on. It's good fun actually...

i can tell that you are from the UK (-1, Offtopic)

rkz (667993) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795109)

am i correct?

Re:i can tell that you are from the UK (1)

tuxette (731067) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795124)

Nope.

I'm a Yank but have been living in Europe for 10 of the last 11 years.

But I know why you thought I was from the UK ;-)

Do demographics factor in? (5, Insightful)

Helmholtz Coil (581131) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795026)

I wonder if maybe one factor driving their decision was demographics, or the perceptions of demographics.

It almost seems as though Bollywood's perception is that their core Indian market won't be affected by offering the movies online-the original article quotes something like 1 million out of 1 billion people in India have Internet access. So from their point of view, putting movies online can't really parasitize their existing market because it isn't connected. So they can only win-even if somebody finds a way around any protection on the movies, it still can only increase their customer base to reach people they haven't been able to in the past. In other words, even if only 1 out of 100 people actually buy the movie rather than watch any cracked version, that's still 1 more customer than they would have had otherwise.

In contrast, Hollywood seems to perceive their customers as more connected Internet-wise, and so putting movies online will parasitize their existing market. Using the same 1 out of 100 people idea, Hollywood sees it as losing 99 rather than gaining 1.

I'm not saying either or both is right or wrong, it just seems to me to be a difference in how each sees their core market.

WARNING: ANTI-AMERICAN COMMENT (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7795045)

Maybe, the movies from Bollywood aren't that bad?

This won't work (4, Interesting)

andy1307 (656570) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795051)

AS any ethnic Indian living in the US will tell you, you can walk into an Indian grocery store and rent a pirated video cassette for the latest Bollywood flock for 2$ or less. This way, people can watch the movie on their big screen TVs instead of waiting for the movie to download and then watching it on your computer.

I'm not saying this is a bad idea...I'm just saying it won't work with Bollywood movies.

Only one problem (4, Informative)

arvindn (542080) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795052)

(I'm Indian) I read about this a couple of weeks back. Apparently the number of downloads was 200. Not surprising: internet availability among home users is ridiculously low in India, 0.4% dialup and 0.02% broadband. Its increasing, but slowly.

But on the other hand maybe movie distribution will become the killer app for broadband in India :)

How to cut costs in Bollywood? (4, Funny)

Bowie J. Poag (16898) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795055)

Maybe they should outsource to America.

The article is misleading. (4, Informative)

karmaflux (148909) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795071)

"India produces as many as 1,000 movies each year with revenues of more than $1 billion." -- The Globe and Mail [globeandmail.com]
This indicates revenue of a million a movie; that's a paltry sum which no American movie house would bother with.

"Bollywood's global annual revenues, estimated at $1.3 billion this year, are small change compared with Hollywood's $51 billion." --Business Week [businessweek.com]
This shoots down the other misdirection in the article. Sell all the tickets you want, Bollywood. You're still pulling less than 1/39th the cash that Hollywood takes in.

A lot of people watch these movies. I have seen a few. To a film, they were insipid. Do yourselves a favor and avoid the musicals at all costs.
But don't worry. They're not going to take over the film industry.

Missing the point (1)

andy1307 (656570) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795093)

You may think bollywood movies are awful(and a majority of them are), but this could be a testbed for Hollywood movie downloads.

Things You Would Never Know Without Indian Movies (5, Funny)

tcak (513301) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795081)

I might be off-topic, but what the hell....

Introducing Things You Would Never Know Without Watching Bollywood Movies

  1. A man will show no pain while taking the most ferocious beating but will wince when a woman tries to cleanse his wounds.
  2. If a large pane of glass is visible, someone will be thrown through it before long.
  3. The hero cannot fall in love with the heroine (vice versa) unless they first perform a dance number in the rain.
  4. Once applied, make-up is permanent, in rain or in any other situation.
  5. Village girls who live among cows and sheep have perfect skin and teeth.
  6. A large group of goondoos can be shooting at the hero, but he will never be hit, unless of course he is attempting to save the heroine.
  7. A large group of goondoos can be shooting at the hero with machine guns, yet they will always miss. Every shot the hero takes from his small revolver will knock down at least ten opponents in a line.
  8. If you decide to start dancing in a field, everyone you bump into will know all the steps, and will be wearing coordinated outfits.
  9. It does not matter if you are heavily outnumbered in a fight involving martial arts-your enemies will wait patiently to attack you one by one by dancing around in a threatening manner until you have knocked out their predecessors.
  10. A heroine will have time to change outfits several times in one song, however short.
  11. In the final scene, the hero will discover that the bad guy who he is up against is actually his brother and the maid who looked after him is his mother and the chief inspector is his father and the Judge is his uncle and so forth.
  12. 2 people can be dancing in the desert and out of nowhere, 100 people will appear from god-knows-where and joins them in the dance.

Bollywood musicals suck! (0)

xtermin8 (719661) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795099)

I can't stand musicals and in particular, "Bollywood" movies. Also Bollywood has no nudity and rather strict guidelines about depicting sexuality. So now lots of unentertaining puritanical film will be available on the internet- Great :-

This is happening all over USA (1)

WindBourne (631190) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795110)

The US refuses to change while the world is changing all over. Best example is the tech industry. While jobs are moving overseas, ppl are fighting main companies to keep them here. Instead they should be trying to start their own companies and do their own work (Personally, I will be taking the opposite tack and simply locating the best coders throughout the world; OSS has shown that distributed works well).

Hollywood should be embracing the change, but they will not until it is too late. Hollywood needs to think about the fact that they can cut out the middle man.

Some indian movies can be really good... (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795116)

A number of people around here seem to think that all indian movies have the same plot.

Perhaps that's true for many of them, but in doing so you're painting them with the same sort of brush that people use against Anime - "Oh, it's all animation!! That's for kids" turns into "Oh, it's all about singing and boys and girls. I couldn't possibly enjoy that".

Yes almost all Bollywood movies seem to enjoy musical numbers. But that's part of the style. There are some movies that are really great - one example I'd give that's very approachable to a western viewer is Lagaan [lagaan.com] , a sort-of-true story about villagers fighting the british through a cricket match (visit the link, it explains it much better than I can). Even if you don't care for cricket or sports much (I didn't and don't) it's still a great movie and the story is well done.

In the same way that you need to work up through Anime to enjoy the more esoteric stuff, you need to start easier with Bollywood movies and find ones that are a little more western in tint.

I bet that they do well with this. (2, Insightful)

jhines0042 (184217) | more than 10 years ago | (#7795138)

Ever look around and notice how many Indian folks there are in the US, working in Tech with access to the Internet?

Ever seen a Bollywood movie in a theater in the US?

Supply meets Demand and there are some people who like these movies here in the US where they can't (easily) see them in theaters.

I'm sure that lots of folks will take advantage if this if for no other reason than to have something from their culture for their children (born here) to watch.

Good luck to them!
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