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Tech Scholarships for College/University?

Cliff posted more than 10 years ago | from the show-me-da-money! dept.

Education 577

Mirkon asks: "I'm a potential high school graduate, and have been accepted to a four-year school for furthering my rather biased educational interests. The problem is that while I'm cheap, the school (predictably) isn't. It's still getting itself off the ground, and thus only offers the legal minimum of scholarships - for racial minorities and those with intense financial need, neither of which I qualify for. Tedious searching for third-party scholarships has revealed that there are very, very few that cater to the interests of a technologically-inclined student, and even fewer that don't give a paltry one-time prize of $500 or less. While there's certainly no shortage of 'write an essay about us/you and we might give you a scholarship' offerings, I find it hard to swallow that there aren't more and more valuable scholarships to encourage growth in the tech sector. Are there?"

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Scholarships (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7884923)

Scholarship. What is it all about... is it good, or is it whack?

Re:Scholarships (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7885006)

Offtopic? Hardly.

Re:Scholarships (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7885087)

Yes I think a "Dumbass" moderation would be more applicable.

Re:Scholarships (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7885131)

There is one. It's called "Troll".

Dumbass.

Re:Scholarships (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7885104)

<borat>It issee gooode!!!</borat>

Local Resources (5, Informative)

Taboo (263223) | more than 10 years ago | (#7884924)

In addition to the many national and regional organizations out there, you might find that there are local financial charities in your area that have a surprisingly rich portfolio of grants and scholarships. Here in northern California we have the Humboldt Area Foundation [hafoundation.org] which provides scholarships on behalf of members in the community who have setup over 100 memorial endowments totalling more than $50 million. When looking for financial aid, be sure to not to overlook your local resources.

Re:Local Resources (5, Informative)

Cycomast (737499) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885078)

Bottom line, forget all the scholarships from big companies like Target, Best Buy, etc. They usually give out between 10-50 scholarships, but have in excess of 10000 or 20000 applicants. Look for local companies, rotary clubs, and any scholarships specifically offered at your school. The latter are often available due to memorial funds set up for deceased students. I ran into this very problem as the poster when looking for scholarships to fund my education at an expensive private university. While I did not qualify for financial aid, my parents have two more kids to send through college, and scholarships would certainly have helped to ease the financial burden. I too was unable to find any scholarships that were specifically for tech/engineering. There were actually a few, but they were all for women or minorities. I guess there just isn't much out there for WMEs (white male engineers). However, don't overlook local scholarships - there are plenty that aren't specifically geared toward any one type of person, that are granted to 1/5 or 1/10 applicants.

No one gets scholarships for scholarship anymore (1)

stevesliva (648202) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885099)

If you're smart enough, you can go to a need-blind institution, in which case you'll still pay more than you'd like, or you can land a scholarship at a "lesser" institution that will pay you to join their "honors" program and make their student body look more aptitudinous [sic].

You think someone unaffiliated with an institution is going to throw real money at you with no strings attached because you're smart? Never going to happen, unless you somehow manage to to well in the Intel nee Westinghouse competition. Helps to have a mommy or a daddy who's got PhD connections.

FIST POST (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7884926)

muahahaha

FP!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7884929)

Frist Pr0st, d00dz...

A Reality Check (2, Funny)

ChaoticChaos (603248) | more than 10 years ago | (#7884932)

<blockquote> I find it hard to swallow that there aren't more and more valuable scholarships to encourage growth in the tech sector.</blockquote>

Take a number junior. We work in the field and are unhappy there isn't growth in the tech sector. ;-) Consider applying for a tech scholarship from an Indian company, they must be drowning in "loose" dollars. ;-)

<blockquote> and even fewer that don't give a paltry one-time prize of $500 or less.</blockquote>

Dude, that's the entire domestic IT budget for IBM. What do you expect? ;-)

Consider flat out deception - tell an executive at IBM, Hewlett-Packard, etc., that you have Indian connections, you'll be able to skip school and go straight into the Board Room. ;-)

This is America, yo (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7884934)

Tell your parents they shouldn't have oppressed the Indian tribes and African slaves, and destroyed their rich cultural heritage and huge supplies of decorative baskets and ugly wooden heads, so that you might have gone to the college cheaper. Until then - sorry, this is United States, bro, if you're white and 17-45, well, go back to Canada.

WFT? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7884963)

We stole it fair and square. It's our now. Go play elsewhere

Re:WFT? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7885040)

Give us back East Prussia, you filthy Pole. Your ancestors fought like pussies and didn't earn it.

Re:This is America, yo (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7885101)

It's a nice trade off. I get to be legally discriminated against by the government. So in the future I won't feel as bad when I participate in some ethnic cleansing.

Fork! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7884940)

Reasonably close to furst post. Doink!

Two solutions (1, Insightful)

anaphora (680342) | more than 10 years ago | (#7884949)

The solution? Start a pyramid scheme. The way I did it was simple. There are tons of places online where people offering scholarships register. You can go there to find scholarships, then go to the scholarship's homepage and get information on how to submit. I never got any big scholarships, I just got several 500-2000 bucks hits, and it eventually added up.

Coop with tech companies (5, Interesting)

bwags (534113) | more than 10 years ago | (#7884951)

I had some friends at Georgia Tech that used this route through school. Takes a little longer to make it through school, but you most likely have a job when you get out.

Re:Coop with tech companies (4, Interesting)

Mysticalfruit (533341) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885095)

This is the route I took to get my degree.

Yes, it took me twice as long only taking two night classes a semster. However, during this time I had other things happening (marriage, a house, etc...) I highly motivated individual that really wanted to sacrifice their social life could take 3+ classes and then take summer classes as well... and shorten things up...

So, at the end of it, I ended up with 8 years of work experience and no student loans.

I know that this won't work for everybody. Obviously, your not just going to walk into a ASIC job or something where you need some up front education...

Re:Coop with tech companies (1)

Phrack (9361) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885116)

Why, I did that very same thing at the same place. Took me 5 1/2 years to get through, but I had a) living expense money and b) work experience.

As to (a), it sure wasn't living like a king. Not even the king's piss boy. Come to think of it... there was much Ramen involved.

OT but can someone fill me in... (2, Interesting)

TwistedSquare (650445) | more than 10 years ago | (#7884954)

This is sort of off-topic but can anyone explain to me how this works in the US? In the UK students are poor as anything but theoretically can get enough (loaned) from the state to survive. Is it much worse in the US?

Re:OT but can someone fill me in... (4, Informative)

Keighvin (166133) | more than 10 years ago | (#7884983)

It's the same - "Student Loans" is a term here which quite frequency make people in their 30's cringe from the sting they still feel in trying to relieve the debt.

Re:OT but can someone fill me in... (2, Interesting)

RevDobbs (313888) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885052)

Although it may not be as bad as "consumer debt", student loans will deffinitly hurt you afterwards, especially if you've borrowed a lot. You really want as much free money as possible.

Like I said in another post, apply for all those paltry little scholarships; no one ever does, and you can "MAKE $$$ FAST" as the default winner. Someone also suggested using local resources, such as clubs & professional organisations your parents may belong to: church groups, VFWs, Elks Lodges, unions, all those entities often provide money to help put the squirts (read: you) through school.

Re:OT but can someone fill me in... (2, Informative)

W. Justice Black (11445) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885161)

Student loans are also one of the few things you can't generally bankrupt your way out of (too many e.g. med students taking advantage of bankruptcy for that, so the loophole was closed). Once you sign that promissory note, you're pretty much stuck with it forever (or until it's paid off, whichever comes first).

Of course, the interest rates have gotten pretty good (they're the lowest of any of my current creditors), especially if you consolidate (though that has some ramifications, too--check with a financial professional before trying this).

Re:OT but can someone fill me in... (1)

Kenja (541830) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885000)

In a word, yes. There is little chance of most students getting through school via government grants. However, the flip side of this is that we dont have many students majoring in snooker.

Re:OT but can someone fill me in... (4, Insightful)

Wingchild (212447) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885032)

In the US, standard procedure is to get a loan for the cost of your education; this loan is often sizeable, usually with a low rate of interest accrual, and is to be paid back after your graduation from the learning institution you've chosen to attend.

The author of this entry to "Please help me, Slashdot" has noted early on that he is cheap: The author does not want a loan. He is looking for a scholarship offer -- that is, he would like very much for someone else to pay for his expenses and send him to school for free. (Wouldn't we all have loved that?)

Unfortunately I have nothing useful to add on that front, as the only scholarship I ever took advantage of was a strictly academic one, and only that for going to a tiny, two-year state school. This hasn't prevented me from being in a computer-related field for the last eight years, nor has it prevented me from working as a senior network engineer, or as a field consultant, or down at the Pentagon, or etc.

The person who submitted the story noted that he is a potential high school graduate ... my advice would really be to work on converting that "potential" into "actual", and then worry about college as you go. If you have to eat the cost of a loan, so be it -- you're no worse off than everybody else. Get into tech and make it pay for itself in a few years; you wouldn't be the first, and sure wouldn't be the last. :)

Re:OT but can someone fill me in... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7885071)

or down at the Pentagon

Cleaning up PC remains left from the plane crash?

Re:OT but can someone fill me in... (3, Interesting)

itwerx (165526) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885102)

Get into tech and make it pay for itself in a few years; you wouldn't be the first, and sure wouldn't be the last. :)
I'll say. I had lots of tech knowledge from misc hacking while in high-school but didn't have anything I could put on a resume' so I joined the USAF for three years (minimum to get GI benefits) and wrote/phrased my resume' in such a way that, without actually lying, anyone reading it would assume that my knowledge had been gained in the service.
It worked out great! I'm taking night-classes for my MBA right now...

Re:OT but can someone fill me in... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7885037)

Its not so much that U.S. students need money to survive (though they do), its more that they need money to be able to pay for the education they recieve. Private schools in the U.S. are ungodly expensive figure between 10,000 and 50,000 a semester. Public colleges are cheaper but still not cheap. In my area public colleges run between 2000 and 4000 a semester depending on which school and what courses you take.

Re:OT but can someone fill me in... (0)

AndreyF (701606) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885059)

All students that are citizens of the UK have university tuitions (non-private schools, of course) paid for by the government afaik. Same with Sweden and Russia... yet another reason America isn't as #1 as it would like to be... :(

Re:OT but can someone fill me in... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7885171)

well, the gvmt pays most of it, and studens pay
1125 per year max, about a tenth (course dependent) of the total actual cost of the course. this is for families earning over 30,000 /year

if the familly earns under 20,000 /year, then there's no charge, and between these 2 boundaries, there's a gradual increase of fees.

but there are no cash grants as such (accomodation and food still need paying) so all that has to be either paid for by the family, or using a student loan, 4000 is available per year to each student, at practically no intrest, and for those in london, 5000 is available (as it is far more expensive to live here

Re:OT but can someone fill me in... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7885073)

I looked at going to a few US universities. I would have needed $26k per year. This somewhat dwarves the "student loan" sceme in the UK!

Re:OT but can someone fill me in... (0)

AndreyF (701606) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885156)

I'm looking at colleges too at the moment, and $26k is very, very mid-priced. Nice private schools in Upper NY state can hit as high $60-80k a year. The average "good" school (NYU, Cornell, etc.) isn't going to cost less than $40k in total (tuition, board, etc.)
The money Bush took for his tax cuts are also raising public college tuition rather sharply...
it's a tough, though world out there :-(

Re:OT but can someone fill me in... (2, Interesting)

Malc (1751) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885103)

As an ex-pat Briton with a degree from a British university, I can tell you that students there are very whiny, and militant about it. And no, I had no financial assistance from my parents.

Stop sponging off the tax payer (which is what Blair is moving towards) and pay for it yourself. Here in Canada so many people have degrees (much higher rate than the UK) that even with a Masters (especially arts) you could end up working in a restaurant. This doesn't stop people signing up for more student loans - you'll pay it off eventually no matter how poor your background was. To be honest, I didn't even notice my student from the UK. The monthly payments were miniscule compared with things like rent, beer, car, etc. Two nights out on the piss cost me more than my student loan payments did, and I get pissed a lot.

I was so pleased to graduate and get away from all those whiny pretensious NUS types. Especially all the arts students who had 4 lectures a week and then spent the rest of the time socialising in the student bar.

rather biased educational interests (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7884958)

Obviously they do not include writing skills or grammar. And potential? What the hell does that mean?

Rich relatives (5, Funny)

magarity (164372) | more than 10 years ago | (#7884971)

Your rich uncle, Sam, has practically limitless amounts of cash to lend to students of higher education for piddly interest rates. Whether this is a good idea depends on whether you're going to school to party or as a stepping stone to a high paying career.

quit whining (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7884975)

and get a student loan if you can't afford ..

GO TO LAW SCHOOL OR MEDICAL SCHOOL INSTEAD (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7884976)

Don't waste your time in IT it sucks ass believe me. I should have become a doctor or lawyer

write those essays (5, Informative)

RevDobbs (313888) | more than 10 years ago | (#7884980)

No one actually applies for most of the schoolarships out there... I have a nephew that has won a ton of money by virtue of being the only entrant.

Write a generic, flexible essay and, well, crap-flood it everywhere. You'll be amazed at the checks you'll be cashing at the end of the semester, after all of your tuition, housing, and books have been paid by other people...

Typo (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7884982)

Tedious searching for third-party scholarships has revealed that there are very, very few that cater to the interests of a technologically-inclined student

Did you mean white, male student? Or are you outside the U.S.?

I find it hard to swallow that there aren't more and more valuable scholarships to encourage growth in the tech sector.

Hard to swallow? Apparently you haven't been keeping up with the news. All your jobs are belong to India. IT is a dying industry in the U.S. You might consider nursing, or something else that can't be outsourced as easily. Union NO!

No need (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7884984)

No need for a scholarships. Just be a gigolo for a few years and you'll have the Masters degree AND a lot of sex.

I'm sure there's some 50 year old ladies living just outside the campus. They'll be happy to pay you, even if you look like a geek (and you probably do.)

Re:No need (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7885088)

You joke, but my sisters first husbands brother(which makes us absolutely nothing) regulary fucked one of his 80 year old mothers friends, and she compensated him. Gives me the willies just thinking about it.

regional? (-1)

u-238 (515248) | more than 10 years ago | (#7884986)

my former highschool was within 2 blocks from a northrup grumman office facility, and they would offer large (5000+ i believe) scholerships to people who met certian SAT/gpa criteria.

hopefully you dont live in bumfuck kentucky, in which case (which i'm actually assuming IS the case) you might as well surrender that chance right now

Important design information! Plz rd! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7884989)

Newsgroups: sci.space
From: dietz@cs.rochester.edu (Paul Dietz)
Subject: Sea Dragon (was Re: reviving saturn v)


In article random@cscns.com (Doug Jones) writes:
> Hey, people, if we're going to resurrect a heavy lifter from the sixties, do
> it right-- build Sea Dragon.

Time to repost the passage from Ed Regis's "Great Mambo Chicken"...

The Sea Dragon was a launch vehicle of stupendous proportions that Truax had designed back when he was director of advanced development at Aerojet General. The best perk of that high office was the $1 million budget that he could spend any way he wanted to. Truax used it to test his pet theory that the *cost* of a rocket had nothing to do with how *big* the rocket was. You could make a given rocket just as big as you pleased and it would cost about the same as one that was about half the size, or smaller.

This went against conventional wisdom and common sense, but at Aerojet Truax collected enough facts and figures to prove its truth beyond a doubt. Indeed, he'd been assembling the necessary data from the time he'd been in the navy, where he'd had access to all sorts of cost information.

Take Agena versus Thor, for example. These two rockets were identical in every way: each had one engine, one set of propellant tanks, and so forth; the only significant difference between them was size. The Thor was far bigger than the Agena, but the surprise was that the *bigger* rocket had cost *less* to develop.

"I was shocked to discover the Agena cost more than the Thor," Truax said later. "The Thor was between five and ten times as big! I said to myself, We've been tilting at windmills all this time! If all rockets cost the same to make, why try to improve the payload-to-weight ratio? If you want more payload, make the rocket bigger."

The same anomaly cropped up again in the case of the two-stage Titan I launch vehicle: the upper stage was *smaller*, a miniature version of the lower stage, yet the smaller stage cost *more* to make.

It seemed irrational, but all of it made sense once you went through the costs item by item. Engineering costs, for example, were the same no matter what the size of the rocket. "You do the same engineering for the two vehicles, only for the bigger rocket you put ten to the sixth after a given quantity rather than ten to the third or whatever," Truax said.

The same was true for lab tests. "The cost of lab tests is a function of the size of your testing machine and the size of the sample you run tests on, not the size of the product."

Ditto for documentation, spec sheets, manuals, and so forth. The cost here was a function of the *number* of parts and not the *size* of the parts. "There are absolutely no more documents associated with a big thing than a small thing, as long as you're talking about the same article."

By this time Truax had accounted for a healthy chunk of the total cost of a given launch vehicle. About the only thing that *did* vary directly with a rocket's size was the cost of the raw materials that went into making it, but raw materials constituted only *2 percent* of the total cost of a rocket. "Two percent is almost insignificant!" he said. "And even with raw materials, if you buy a ton of it you get it at a lower unit price than if you buy a pound. And this is especially true of rocket propellants."

So if all this was true, if engineering, lab tests, documentation and so forth didn't determine a launch vehicle's price tag, *what did*? Essentially, three things: parts count, design margins, and innovation. Other things being equal, the more parts a machine had, the more it was going to cost. The more you wanted it to approach perfection, the more expensive it would end up being. And finally, the newer and more pioneering the design, the more you'd end up paying for it.

"We came up with a set of ground rules for designing a launch vehicle," Truax said. "Make it big, make it simple, make it reusable. Don't push the state of the art, and don't make it any more reliable that it has to be. And *never* mix people and cargo, because the reliability requirements are worlds apart. For people you can have a very small vehicle on which you lavish all your attention; everything else is cargo, and for this all you need is a Big Dumb Booster."

Paul F. Dietz
dietz@cs.rochester.edu

"If I'd been in my grave, I'd have rolled over."
R. Truax on the decision to build the Space Shuttle

Why so married to 'tech'? (5, Insightful)

glomph (2644) | more than 10 years ago | (#7884990)

I've worked for over 20 years in various tech roles, after getting advanced degrees in Physics from the biggest name skoolz in the US. The ability to solve problems quickly and efficiently is what matters, not how much acronymic crap you can pack into your resume. My general experience is that good people are those who can adapt, not ones who learned old-tech from profs in some academic environment. Direct academic training for entering the IT world is a total waste, and always has been so, even when the economy did not suck.

gets easier at the graduate (2, Informative)

stonebeat.org (562495) | more than 10 years ago | (#7884992)

It is quite hard to get a full scholarship at the undergraduate level from 3rd party. Once you are in the graduate school, it scholarship comes in form of Research Assistant, Intership, Independent StudyGraduate Assistant, etc.

How about a job? (5, Insightful)

andawyr (212118) | more than 10 years ago | (#7884993)

Have you thought about doing what most other people do, and get a job? Sure, you'll have to work your butt off, but if you do it this way, you'll certainly have more self esteem than had you paid for tuition and what-have-you with scholarships. Free money ain't, really. If you work for the cash, you'll know what it really cost you to get an education. You'll also realize that you're going to college to *work*, and not to screw around. I saw way too many people party away $1000s of scholarship dollars simply because it wasn't really their money.

Student loans are another way to go - there's nothing wrong with getting one either. I did it, and I paid it off too. Yes, it took a few years, but it was finally paid off.

It may even be the case that you'll have to put off going to college for a year or so until you have enough money. So be it.

Good luck!

Re:How about a job? (5, Insightful)

hyrdra (260687) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885121)

Please mod the parent up. This is what college and being out on your own are all about, and this way only serves to better prepare you for life ahead. There is a lot more to life than having a good education, and doing it this way (I am doing it now) teaches you things your scholarship/daddy money peers probably won't learn about until out of school.

Don't always take the easy way; the other path may be more interesting and rewarding -- true success isn't without its struggle.

Most money is reserved for grad students in tech (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7884995)

If you are in a PhD program at a name university, everything is paid for whether you have financial need or not. You also get some extra spending money.

Sadly, this means there is little to be had by undergraduates.

learn to speak Hindi (4, Funny)

kaltkalt (620110) | more than 10 years ago | (#7884997)

so when your job ends up being in india you'll be able to talk to your boss in his own language. Although chances are they'll already speak english quite well. But finding a scholarship for "Indian (dot, not feather) studies" would be more productive realistically and pragmatically than looking for a scholarship for tech-based study.

Do what I did - GET A PART-TIME JOB (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7885012)

i was a busboy/waiter all through high school and college and i can tell you that it teaches you valuable life skills like:
* how to manage your time and prioritize obligations
* how to make and save money; how to spend money wisely
* how to deal with work conditions, including low pay, long hours, bad bosses, evil customers, etc.
* eventually, how to appreciate a "better" job, having tasted first hand what some people have to do to earn a living

School is a business (1)

RainbowSix (105550) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885013)

One way you might try to get money is to bargain with the school. Look at the other schools that you've been accepted to. Which ones have really good tech programs? Tell your school that you've been excepted to $TECH_SCHOOL and that you'd like an incentive to go to $YOUR_SCHOOL instead of $TECH_SCHOOL.

If you're me and couldn't get into any better schools, then you could consider simply begging them. My dad wrote them a letter saying that we were poor, and they have me $4k. Not much relative to the cost, but still a good sum.

If you really want to go there and can't get any money, you might consider sucking it up and paying full price while kicking your ass at academics. Then next year you can tell them that you're a good student and that they should give you more money.

After my freshman year, my resonably decent grades allowed the school to just throw money at me in things called "Institutional Scholarship" and other such things.

Potential graduate? (2, Insightful)

tgd (2822) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885014)

Maybe you should work more on ensuring you actually are more than a potential graduate first. Upcoming graduate? Future graduate?

I was a potential graduate and the last few months of my senior year really really sucked. ;-)

Re:Potential graduate? (4, Funny)

happyfrogcow (708359) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885132)

I was a potential graduate and the last few months of my senior year really really sucked. ;-)

should this read, "I was a potential graduate and the last few years of my senior year really really sucked. ;-)"?

This is slashdot, you know.

Want a big scholarship? Try nursing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7885020)

I wouldn't expect big scholarships for a middle income young white male, which I suspect you are, simply on the basis of encouraging you to go into the technology sector. Try nursing, they need recruits, and males at that to offset the 90/10 balance. Programming for a company does not always allow one to seek one's true objective of quality -- leave it as a hobby for yourself so you don't burn out from nursing ;)

army (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7885021)

Though the current climate is a bit unusual in terms of action in the middle east, I recommend joining the Army, Navy, etc if you are inclined. After serving your country you can get about $8k a year (scholarship - ie not a loan that you have to pay back) towards a schoo of your choice. Granted you have to maintain a certain GPA, but it is still better than having $32k in debt after graduating.

PS Flamers: This is not for everyone, just a suggestion to those of us that don't want to pay an unreasonable amount for a college education.

Re:army (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7885120)

Then go die in Iraq, or better yet, suffer some strange nerve disease for the rest of you life.

That'll show you punk teenagers! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7885136)

You won't have the option of the GI bill when your ass gets DRAFTED next summer!!!

Not to sound rude.... (1)

bckrispi (725257) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885022)

...but STFW. Googling for "technology scholarship" returned 2.5 Million entries. The same search on acm.org returned over 500.

Growth in the tech sector (5, Interesting)

TWX (665546) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885026)

Currently there really isn't much growth in the technical sector, since management has figured out that it can send jobs to countries that pay Bachelors' trained people half of what they make, or less, than in the U.S. Granted, there are new jobs that come up, but there are so many people looking to fill them that unless you're really lucky, you're not going to end up with that nice job with longevity and stability.

I started studying Computer Systems Engineering. After seeing what my code-monkey friends have been going through for the last two or three years, I decided not to go with that. I'm going to go back and finish college in something else. I'm not sure what, just yet, but I'll use my computer knowledge as an asset to help further myself in another career, not as a career in itself. You're either going to do computer service for a living, which can make money, but not a lot and is mindnumbingly boring, or you're going to be feast-or-famine as long as technology remains the commodity that it has shown to be. Learn how to do something else, that knowing computers benefits you in, and keep your skills to help you.

Re:Growth in the tech sector (2, Interesting)

ChaoticChaos (603248) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885135)

You're really not answering his question though. I've yet to hear some skills that you can train for that are mildly interesting that are guaranteed not to be shipped off to India.

Offshoring is NOT just affecting IT, it's also:
- CPAs
- Lawyers
- Radiologists .etc., etc., etc.

I would think there would be a lot of potential in Nanotechnology, but why wouldn't that be shipped off as well?

I used to Work for a Univ. CS Department. (2, Informative)

Dolemite_the_Wiz (618862) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885027)

Undergrad Tech Scolarships were few and far between. At the time, I was working for the number three CS department in the Nation.

The real money is in Graduate Grants and Scolarships. For it's when you're in Grad School that you're working on the potentially groundbreaking technology. Not as an Undergrad.

See if you can find other types of money as there are so many non-tech scolarships available that are never used. Keep looking the scolarships you're looking for are out there.

Dolemite
___________

No (4, Funny)

jafac (1449) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885028)

We don't want no stinkin growth in the tech industry.

There aren't enough jobs to go around as it is.

Why don't you change your major to an industry that IS growing, like IP Law. Or Linguist for some obscure 3rd world country. Actually, you should try to find the poorest nation out there, and learn it's language. In 4 years, you'll be helping US firms hire them in droves.

Of course! (1)

cliffy2000 (185461) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885034)

Cooper Union, one of the best Engineering (and Art and Architecture) schools in the nation offers a full scholarship to any student admitted. The EE program is phenomenal. I might be a lowly Civil Engineering major, but the price can't be beat.

Legal Minimum ? (1)

MerlynEmrys67 (583469) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885036)

You mean there are laws saying how many scholarships a school MUST offer ?

I find that quite hard to believe - I can believe that they offer some scholarships to certain applicants for various reasons, but not that they are "Legally Required" too

Can you point to a statute that would even hint at something like this so I can place any idiot that voted for this on my list of candidates I will never vote for in the future.

Realize that this isn't anti scholarships - just like I don't believe that being against forced volunteerism is anti-volunteer. People (and organizations) should be able to do what they need to with their money. The more the government gets involved the less efficient the society is

Choose another school (1)

rollingcalf (605357) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885038)

If this school doesn't offer many scholarships, look for another one that either offers good scholarships or is less expensive. Surely this isn't the only college you could get accepted into? If it is, you won't be worthy of any real scholarships anyway.

Potential? (5, Funny)

verloren (523497) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885042)

My first suggestion whatever you decide is not to portray yourself as a 'potential' high school graduate. You're much more likely to get a scholarship if you can at least appear confident that you'll graduate high school.

Cheers, Paul

Promising Scholarship For Juniors and Seniors (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7885043)

DHS Scholarship [orau.gov]

Yes, it means you work for the Department of Homeland Security. On the gripping hand, it pays $1000 a month. When you do your internship for them, they pay $500 a week. Damn good pay. And that's all after they pay all your tuition and fees. Too late for this year, but remember it for next year.

Re:Promising Scholarship For Juniors and Seniors (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7885061)

Excuse me while I puke this April 15th, not that I wouldn't have anyway.

Re:Promising Scholarship For Juniors and Seniors (1)

RedLeg (22564) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885169)

Assuming you are in the US, you might visit your local Armed Forces Recruiter. I went to college on a full Army ROTC ride to the tune of around $125k, and had a nicely paying job upon graduation.


A couple of things to remember:

  • READ the contract, including the fine print, and pay particular attention to escape clauses with words like "needs of the service".
  • Talk to ALL of the recruiters from each service. They have different quotas at different times.
  • If you don't like the deal, don't sign up.

Loans (1)

DaHat (247651) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885045)

Just three weeks ago I graduated after 4 and a half years of getting my BS in CS (not that I need a degree to prove my level of BS). Also not qualifying for any free money and not attempting to earn any scholarships, I did what many before me have done... put my name on the dotted line and financed my college education.

Granted when I started the tech market was booming and I figured I'd have em all paid off quite fast with the money I'd be making hand over fist, that was of course not the most realistic plan.

You seem to already know that a solid education is required for the most part in order to get a good job, thus taking out loans for said education tends to be the best solution if you cannot find the free money.

Ultimately, the person benefiting from the education should pay for it, IE: You!

College with excellent scholarship program (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7885053)

I graduated in May 2003 from Ramapo College of NJ (double major computer science & physics).
(http://www.ramapo.edu)
it has large number of merit based scholarships - from the presidential that covers tuition and board to smaller one (say $1000 - $2000 a year for physics students).
It is a very good, liberal arts school with (my personal opinion) very good program in computer science (I am in graduate school currently, but most of my friends who graduated in last 3 years found jobs in industry)...
hope it helps

wait a while (1)

noah_fense (593142) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885058)


Due to the large number of students that drop out of engineering majors, most merit based engineering scholarships weren't offered until my sophmore and junior years of college. These scholarships are often accompanied by internship oppurtunities, and they were offered to my through my university.

In other words, get in, do _exceptionally_ well, and you will be rewarded later in your college career.

-n

Paltry $500? Are you *really* a college student? (1)

linuxchimp (460777) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885060)

Do you know how much ramen noodle, generic soda, off-brand bear and cheap pr0n $500 buys?

Surely you can't be a college student.

Play the Race Card...No, Really! (1)

Rude Turnip (49495) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885066)

When it's all said and done, a "racial" minority is another word for an "ethnic" minority. Thus, the color of your skin doesn't necessarily matter, just your lineage.

Just before his third year of university, my brother discovered an obscure scholarship for people of at least partial Hungarian decent that no one had taken advantage of, nor had it been promoted. He applied for the scholarship and got his last two years of schooling paid in full, except books!

The lesson to be learned is that although it would be "cool" to get a scholarship based upon your academic preference, you need to play every angle out there.

Good luck finding scholarships (1)

milgr (726027) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885069)

Apply for financial aid. Even if you don't receive grants, it may open the door to guaranteed student loans, and a better choice of on campus jobs.

When I went to college, I selected one of the 10 most expensive in the country. They had scholarships for people from other areas of the country and other parts of the world, as well as people from the town the university is located in. Perhaps they had grants for lower income students. Most other students received loans and student jobs to pay the bills.

Don't bother (2, Flamebait)

BattleTroll (561035) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885076)

Don't bother going into tech, it's a dead end that will lead you to disappointment.

You want a major in which you can actually find work after graduation. Something useful like Comparative Literature or Philosophy.

Tech Scholarships for College/University? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7885080)

"Hi I'm a wanker with poor grades and no
work ethic. I've never written a line
of GPL'd code in my life. But, if I pretend
that I'm going to get a CIS degree and
become a great linux kernel hacker will it
fool you morons who read slashdot into
giving me a bunch of money?"

There's money out there (1)

mschuyler (197441) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885082)

It may seem grim at first, but there's plenty of scholarship money out there, particularly if you've prepared yourself. My daughter's business is to find scholarship money for students. She typically finds $200K to $300K in money for qualified students. (Obviously, this is because students apply to more than one school; they need to reject the money for schools they wind up not attending.) For my niece, she found $350K, which wound up a full ride at, in this case, Western Washington University. My daughter pays attention to grants versus loans, with emphasis on the former. I think she charges something like $600 for the entire service.

From what I've seen watching her with 'her' students, I don't think there is any reason at all for anyone to claim they "can't afford" school. These grants and scholarships don't just fall into your lap, and you're not 'entitled' to any of it. They aren't 'just' for certain classes of people. And they probably aren't for 'C' students who've done nothing notable during their high school careers. You have to be prepared and have done good work in high school, and then you have to work for it and be persistent.

Anyone figure out the University yet? (1)

Wingchild (212447) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885084)

Mirkon asks: "I'm a potential high school graduate, and have been accepted to a four-year school for furthering my rather biased educational interests. The problem is that while I'm cheap, the school (predictably) isn't. It's still getting itself off the ground, and thus only offers the legal minimum of scholarships" ad infinitum.

It qualifies as tech; it's `rather biased`; it's a new university that isn't established, accredited, etc (as it's getting itself off the ground, according to the above) ... So has anybody guessed what he's doing for a living yet?

If he's applying to a videogame university, I'm not sure I wanna help. :)

ROTC and NSA (1)

jmichaelg (148257) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885094)

The military has a program that will put you through whatever college you can get into in exchange for 4 years in the armed service afterwards. NSA (National Security Agency) used to have a similar program if you were good in math but I don't know if they still do.

The military also has their respective academys, i.e., West Point, Anapolis and Colorado Springs. The men I've met who went to West Point spoke very highly of it in terms of the education they received.

So you need money (1)

fthiemonge (734187) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885098)

There is a thing called work that many people do. It takes some time away from classes/study, and can suck, but can also provide money you need. Check it out. ;)

Just Show Up (1)

athakur999 (44340) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885108)

I noticed alot of classes I took, at least at the lower levels, were big enough that the teacher couldn't keep track of all the students. So just find out when those classes are, and show up. You get a college education without paying a cent!

SCO-larships? (1)

Eberlin (570874) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885112)

I suppose you could write an essay to Uncle Darl letting him know how much you believe in him (selling your soul in the process) and maybe, just maybe, you can get your cut after SCO is done with their pump and dump, Boies gets his cut, and the lawsuit gets thrown out.

Then you'll have that unclean feeling of having sold yourself out, not being able to look fellow geeks in the eye, and then having that mark on your techie soul that says "I kissed Darl McBride's Ass and all I got was this guilty feeling"

Ok, so maybe it's not that drastic in reality and it may be what has to get done if you need the cashage from various scholarship sources. There's always going to a Junior College first (covering your general ed and other transferrable units/credits over) -- that way it'll be a bit less of a financial burden. Then you can hopefully save up enough to transfer to a 4-year by the time you're done.

Are you in PA? (1)

JonMisurda (632485) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885113)

...if so you may be interested in the NETS Scholarship. The info is here [pheaa.com]. Basically it is a scholarship where you promise to work in Pennsylvania for as long as you received the money. I had it for several years, and now have a grad school deferment. If you don't work here (and complete the required internship) it basically turns into a loan. You can get $3000 a year without too much hassle.

Jon

Consider other schools? (2, Insightful)

kolding (55685) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885128)

Maybe you should consider schools that have a history, rather than a very new school. An older school will have a reputation, and more access to funds via it's financial aid offices.

You should also be careful about picking a school based on (as you put it) your "rather biased educational interests". As a someone who hasn't graduated from high school yet, your interests are very likely to change over the next few years of your life, as you set out into the world and see things that are different from where you grew up. Don't shortchange yourself by picking a school that is tailored to your current interests, and won't be able to support your future ones.

Also, don't shortchange yourself by isolating your interests into the tech sector. Make sure you can explore the full range of academic subjects that are available at a good school. You'll never get a chance like this again.

screw college (1)

Stud1y (598856) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885138)

i droped out and make more money than anyone else i know. bleh, you learn more in the real world (except how to spell and capitalize.)

Mirkon? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7885146)

> Mirkon asks: "I'm a potential high school graduate...

Isn't a mirkon a fake pubic hair wig?

Wal-Mart Competitive Edge Scholarship (1)

da3dAlus (20553) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885153)

Google that. I really don't know if it's still active, but I recieved that $20k for the tech school I chose. However, that's $5k per year, IF you keep up the GPA requirements. I didn't, and I lost it after my freshman year (that's what Quake & Quake II did for me). Anyway, they only offer it if you enroll in a technical college, where in my case Ga. Tech qualified, as did Southern Polytechnic.

Join the Army (2, Informative)

hayek (192772) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885154)

Instead of college, I'd suggest joining the military. They will beat that self-centered I-want-someone-else-to-pay-for-my-education attitude out of you, and you can apply for benefits via the Montgomery GI Bill (MGIB) and Army/Navy College Fund (ACF) after you serve.

they shouldn't be any encouragement for tech (4, Insightful)

esj at harvee (7456) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885158)

I understand that you probably have your heart set on a technology career but I would strongly encourage you to look elsewhere for your life's work. the technology career in the United States is fading. There is significant age discrimination and it is effectively a ten to fifteen year career.

Try some informational interviews at technology companies and just look around and see how the people in the technology staff and first couple levels of management are above the age of 45. If the companies say they have a "dual career ladder", ask how many directors they have on the managerial side. Then ask how many they have on the technical side. if they give you a nonzero number, ask to be introduced to some of them. Another question on the same line is to ask what does it take to become a director for managerial and then ask for the technical. You'll frequently find that the technical rungs have significantly higher hurdles than the managerial side.

Don't be fooled by the typical /.comments of "I'm over X, and I still have a job by being technically hot shit" because they are exceptions that prove the rule. For the most part, your typical your career will be over by the time you are 35-40.

A technology career is also bad for you physically and mentally. Most companies use subtle or not so subtle psychological pressure to encourage staff to work all sorts of hours, usually in the name of teambuilding. It will cost you sleep, health by being increasingly sedentary and obese, and even possibly repetitive motion damages which leaves you with lifelong pain.

The psychological pressure to work long hours will reduce your ability to take time off to take vacations.

The hyper focus mindset it takes to get work done in a cube environment also will impact your ability to form healthy relationships with a partner. Important time off together (see above) will be impaired and nibbled away at by the inability to leave work at work.

So, leave the technology career for others. The smart move into something where you can have a long career and make good money without putting your physical and mental health at risk. take care of yourself. Because not only will nobody else do it, everybody else wants to eat you alive and not in a good way.

Encourage Growth?? (1)

RenegadeTempest (696396) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885159)

I wouldn't look to the corperate sector for any sort of funds to pay for college. In this economy, why would IBM, Microsoft or any Fortune 500 company give you $100,000+ to get a college education and then come work for them when they can hire an out of work deveopler on the cheep.

To take your question seriously... (1)

HyperLemur (622212) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885166)

I'm a little confused here. If there seem to be plenty of scholarships for which you actually have to do a little work, why aren't you applying for them? Surely you can't believe that you're entitled to free money, no strings attached. Your writing skills certainly seem up to par. There are a few things you could consider doing: 1. Apply to a good state university with a strong engineering program, like the University of Illinois or Penn State. State university tuition tends to be considerably lower than that of private schools, and the one I attended had a good honors program which offered scholarships to students who had achieved a certain grade point average and SAT scores in high school. Contrary to popular belief, your career won't be prematurely wrecked if you don't go to Harvard or whatever school is hot right now. 2. I don't know what your major is, but consider emphasizing the science, rather than the tech side of things. More money seems to be available to science majors, especially government funding. 3. Apply for a work-study technical support position. Yeah, you'll probably end up on the computer lab helpdesk resetting passwords for flaky sorority chicks, but it's still honest work. Some professors may also have funding available for undergraduate research assistants. Good luck. There's no free lunch.

For those with kids... (1)

dnahelix (598670) | more than 10 years ago | (#7885170)

I understand this is too little, too late for the one asking about scholarships, but this is advice for those with younger children who are thinking about the future...

My grandmother, when I was about 4 years old, put about $2000 in a government trust fund that accrued compound interest with no taxes. By the time I went to school when I was 18, it had grown to over $26,000. I thought she was so wise to think about the future that way. There were also options for me to use the money for either starting a business or purchasing a home, but I chose to go to school.
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