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First Preview of GIMP 2.0 Ready for Testing

michael posted more than 10 years ago | from the my-precious dept.

Graphics 563

molnarcs writes "The first preview of GIMP-2.0 is available. It can be installed side-by-side with GIMP 1.2 - so there is no need to uninstall 1.2 to test it. According to this README, some parts (gimp-perl and GAP) were removed from the main package, and will be released as separate modules. Use the mirrors listed on the homepage to download the source code. (Also available for FreeBSD via ports)." Apparently the GIMP is finally adding CYMK support, for those of you working in the print world.

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563 comments

Yes but.... (5, Funny)

dustmote (572761) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914108)

Does it allow me to copy money? I hear programs like this are in short supply. :)

Re:Yes but.... (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7914121)

To copy money on Photoshop CS, its easy. Here is how to get around it.

1. Open up image in ImageReady.
2. Click import image to Photoshop
3. Have funny money fun :D

Adobe are stupid.

Re:Yes but.... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7914268)

And j00 r teh ghey.

Re:Yes but.... (1)

grub (11606) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914129)


Heh.. well the fact that you can see the source and determine if there are covert functions will let you find that out for yourself without having to trust a mega-corp.

Re:Yes but.... (4, Informative)

capoccia (312092) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914163)

Does it allow me to copy money? I hear programs like this are in short supply. :)

I copied some currency with the GIMP recently. No problems at all.
http://kandent.com/archives/2003_11/funny_money.ht ml [kandent.com]

Re:Yes but.... (3, Funny)

GrievousAngel (220826) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914174)

Being free isn't enough for you? I'm afraid if you want a license to print money, you'll have to get a job either at the Treasury or at Microsoft. Sorry.

Re:Yes but.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7914186)

The Gimp! #1 among counterfeiters worldwide!

If you don't mind me asking... (3, Interesting)

vasqzr (619165) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914311)


What happens if you try to copy money with Photoshop CS?

The reason I ask is, we just bought a $25,000 Canon color printer. It might print some fairly realistic -looking- money, but it wouldn't fool anyone if they touched it, even if they had the right paper.

Our copier salesperson told us a story, that sounded like an urban legend, it went like this:

"A few years back, we sold 5 color copiers to some Arab guys in the Detroit area. They paid for them in cash, didn't want a service contract, and wanted them delivered to some abandoned warehouse. At first our VP of sales didn't want to do it, but we stood to make so much money on the deal it wasn't funny. So we did it.

Apparently, they were using them to make counterfeit money! We talked to Canon and they have a anti-counterfeitting chip inside, where if you put a $20 bill on the glass, it will lock the machine up, and notify the local Secret Service office. A half an hour later, the feds are at your door!


In theory, wouldn't you be able to buy some real printing equipment for the price of a couple high-dollar color lasers?

Re:If you don't mind me asking... (4, Funny)

mirko (198274) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914429)

Did these arabs pay him using phony money ?

Re:If you don't mind me asking... (1)

mirko (198274) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914443)

Apparently, they were using them to make counterfeit money! We talked to Canon and they have a anti-counterfeitting chip inside, where if you put a $20 bill on the glass, it will lock the machine up, and notify the local Secret Service office. A half an hour later, the feds are at your door!
It gives me ideas on how to D.O.S. a company by having its staff busted.
All you need is a 20$ note and access to their copy room :)

Of course the obvious question... (-1, Redundant)

One More Troll (716964) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914112)

...is will it let me print out scans of money?

Re:Of course the obvious question... (1)

Pirogoeth (662083) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914134)

Talk about your well-timed product announcements...

Screenshots? (3, Funny)

jeffkjo1 (663413) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914115)

Does anyone have any screenshots?

Re:Screenshots? (1)

b1nhb00ng (738999) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914126)

it is pretty much like version 1.3.x (development releases) since 2.0 is the final.

Re:Screenshots? (1, Funny)

drizst 'n drat (725458) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914139)

sure do. unfortunately i can't show them to you as my monitor is currently smoking!

Re:Screenshots? (1)

locknloll (638243) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914142)

well, at least not on gimp.org...

This document contains no data.

Nice job, /.

Re:Screenshots? (0, Redundant)

Gilesx (525831) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914148)

http://www.gimp.org/the_gimp_screenshots.html

Re:Screenshots? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7914234)

Those are shots of the old 1.2 release.

Slashdotted! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7914269)

purr!

Re:Screenshots? (4, Informative)

locutus_borg (36786) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914153)

There is one here....
http://openosx.com/gimp2/screenshots.htm l

Re:Screenshots? (4, Informative)

jcupitt65 (68879) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914278)

Here's a shot [ng-london.org.uk] of 1.3.23 (I think), the final is pretty similar.

Re:Screenshots? (5, Informative)

jeremymh (702977) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914400)

screenshot of the default setup running under gnome. [iinet.net.au]

The interface has some very nice improvements. Each tool window can be dragged around, to dock things together (see the tabs on the layers window? Behind that are paths, undo history etc)

You don't have to right click on an image to do functions to the image, it has them up the top of that window, making it more friendly to new users.

Re:Screenshots? (2, Informative)

Raphael (18701) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914457)

There are several screenshots of version 1.3 (pre-2.0) of the GIMP on the developer's site: http://developer.gimp.org/screenshots.html [gimp.org] .

Other screenshots of version 2.0 will be available later, when the new GIMP web site goes live.

Including banknote detection ? (-1, Redundant)

Rutje (606635) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914122)

I guess they included a fully optional and expandable banknote detection system in order to compete with other leading graphical suites.

Re:Including banknote detection ? (5, Funny)

JanneM (7445) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914151)

Except this one is a little different:

"Alert: a real $20 note is two steps darker than your attempt. Also, your serial number will not validate. Would you like me to apply corrections?"

Re:Including banknote detection ? (3, Funny)

CaptainAlbert (162776) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914207)

LOL!

Prepare for Microsoft to retaliate by inserting Clippy into MS Paint...

"I see you're trying to defraud the federal government - would you like some help with that?"

Re:Including banknote detection ? (1)

Boing (111813) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914285)

Prepare for Microsoft to retaliate by inserting Clippy into MS Paint...

"I see you're trying to defraud the federal government - would you like some help with that?"

Considering how widespread their products are in the government, Microsoft might actually be a valuable reference for that particular kind of "assistance".

Good news! (1, Flamebait)

roomisigloomis (643740) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914125)

I am happy to hear that there is a Gimp 2 on the horizon. PhotoShop is becoming a parody of itself and anything else (PSP, etc.) is not really up to snuff. Hooray.

Currency? (-1, Redundant)

noah_fense (593142) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914130)


Does GIMP let me create currency ? It has recently come to my attention that i can no longer use adobe photoshop . . .

-n

screenshot link (2, Informative)

ubiquitin (28396) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914132)

There's a screenshot of the GIMP 2.0pre1 for Mac users here [macgimp.org] .

Re: your sig (1)

SixArmedJesus (513025) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914235)

If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.

I thought it was, "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets." :)

Nice, but not the be all and end all. (0)

mkavanagh (641055) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914145)

I like it..but GIMP always has been and still is quite lacking in the vector department. Combined with sodipodi [sodipodi.com] , though, it's everything I could wish for.

The problem with gimp... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7914146)

.. is its User interface.

Until they fix that (ie., complete redesign), forget it. Its window bloody hell, a window for every freaking control nearly. What happened to the MDI model. Works great on Photoshop, until then, GUMP can suffer on userbase. GIMP is for fanboys only until then.

Re:The problem with gimp... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7914160)

You apparently haven't used 1.3 and greater versions.

Re:The problem with gimp... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7914171)

Yes i have and its shite. Go away fanboy.

Re:The problem with gimp... (0)

locutus_borg (36786) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914195)

What exactly would you say is better than it is? The only thing I prefer using is Photoshop, however the price drives me away.

Re:The problem with gimp... (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7914227)

Apparently you don't know what you're talking about..and neither do the people who modded you insightful GIMP 1.3.x/2.0 does a lot to address the user interface issue; (most, AFAIK) of the previously isolated windows can be docked.

Re:The problem with gimp... (1)

dustmote (572761) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914254)

While I admit the interface furstrates me from time to time, I still use GIMP. Why? Because it's free, plain and simple. Yes, I might not make the same decision if I were a small-or-larger graphic arts shop, although I probably would if put in charge of the purchasing. The interface may be a bit clunky, but I will never plunk down whatever astronomical sum Adobe is charging for Photoshop nowadays. I can spend that money on a scanner, a drawing tablet, some nice paper, and a bunch of non-photo blue pencils. For a hobbyist or amateur artist (or just a bad one, like myself,)these are as much of a factor in deciding which program to go with.

Re:The problem with gimp... (1)

Chanc_Gorkon (94133) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914313)

Really! I agree. Photoshop is priced for raping it's users. I realize they have a ton of money tied up in it's development, but that is not an excuse for charging as much as some PC's COST! Video is even worse! Premiere is priced really high as well. GIMP rocks. I can do about 90 percent of what can be done in Photoshop with the GIMP. CMYK is just an added and wanted feature.

Re:The problem with gimp... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7914410)

I will never plunk down whatever astronomical sum Adobe is charging for Photoshop nowadays

I personally wouldn't pay 650$ (US) for Photoshop, as my 5.0LE does the job fine for me. But calling that an astronomical sum is pushing it by a lot.

Adobe's Photoshop Store [adobe.com]

Re:The problem with gimp... (1)

haggar (72771) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914306)

There is some valid concern regarding the UI: when I started to use GIMP, 2 years ago, I just couldn't figure out how to actually manipulate files (open, new, save etc.), it was really weird. At first I was totally frustrated and I gave up on GIMP. However, I had to convert some pictures to PNG, and I was hoping GIMP would do that correctly - and I was right, GIMP lived up to his fame of being powerful. That's when I was forced to figure out the GIMP UI.

Re:The problem with gimp... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7914371)

because reading docs is just too damned hard to do and damn them for even writing them...

Gawd, why cant all programs act 100% the same so I dont have to think!

Re:The problem with gimp... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7914321)

are you a windows user? Gimp under windows is IMHO extremely unwieldy, because all the subwindows appear in the taskbar all with the same unhelpful label "the gimp", and window decorations that only take up space.

gimp under linux or OSX is much nicer.

Re:The problem with gimp... (3, Interesting)

donscarletti (569232) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914328)

I use multihead displays and personally, I have never seen anything as efficient as the gimp interface to use.

Also, 1.3 and 2.0 have tabbed control boxes making the UI compact, intuitive and flexible, one can even shove all one's little boxes into a single window vertically with the new interface and it will be the same aweful interface that you seem to like with photoshop.

Re:The problem with gimp... (1)

CaptnMArk (9003) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914343)

MDI sucks. I'd rather have the current UI.

Re:The problem with gimp... (1)

CaptnMArk (9003) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914358)

... 2 minutes pass ...

Of course, the current UI is also MDI. (multiple documents)

Completely new UI (Was:The problem with gimp...) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7914392)

The GIMP development version has had a completely new interface for a while now, so before complaining about non-existent annoyances, check your facts. With its innovative dockable palettes GIMP really sets the par above Photoshop and likes.

I'm not even going to explain how bad MDI is, there's a reason why MacOS applications (including Photoshop) don't have such thing. Get rid of the few MDI apps all together and learn to use virtual screens!

Re:The problem with gimp... (5, Insightful)

Boing (111813) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914404)

The problem with gimp...is its User interface... What happened to the MDI model.

Someone responded saying the problem has been partially solved in later versions of gimp, with "docking" ability. But I think Photoshop and its imitators have shown that a true MDI workspace is ideal for image editing.

For the story of why MDI wasn't adopted earlier, read the following:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7379 [gnome.org]

Putting my own personal bias into it, attitudes like Sven's (for example, an exerpt from a message on 2002-12-10 08:31: "WiW is evil! Why do you want to put a large window all over your screen that hides everything but your application? Because your desktop sucks? Then get a better one.") are what I see as the big imediment towards adoption of open source. If someone in a commercial project vocally complained that the customers of that project wanted dumb things and that their environments were inferior, he or she would be fired.

I understand that these people have given freely of their time to improve GIMP, but they also claim to want widespread adoption of it; something that won't happen if they establish a mental wall between their personal agendas and the desires of other users.

Re:The problem with gimp... (0)

Flaming Death (447117) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914435)

Well.. this is always a common theme with user interfaces. Just because a tool has a different user interface doesnt mean its worse, just means its different and the new user isnt 'used' to using something different (god help us if we have to learn something new and accomodate a new idea!!). This is often a case in point of the Windows V Mac V Linux V Solaris V IRIX and so on.. most often the interface is implemented to be used in a particular way. Just because it isnt the Microsoft way, or the Adobe way, or the Macromedia way, has little relevance to its UI design. I personally like it, as I am not much of a fan of the MDI layout system, mainly because you end up wasting screen realestate on MDI style tool windows and bars, but thats my preference... it doesnt make one good or bad based on my preference though..

I have also found that people can pick up the use of gimp quite quickly - having all the tools on the right-click is very handy and very productive, as is the script-fu tool. I have been using it commercially for a bout a year now, and I am quite comfortable with it... and have had quite a few people on our team move over to it, mainly because of some of the features it has. If a gimp user is a fan boy then I guess I am.. at my age I'll take any flattery that makes me sound younger...

Re:The problem with gimp... (1)

Elektroschock (659467) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914460)

I prefer the way Kdevelop chose: You can configure your user interface to whatever you like. Unfortunately gtk does not provide this functionality.

It was always said that gimp 2 will offen gui abstraction. We will wait and see.

I am still waiting for a proper KDE integration of Gimp or an alzternative. I also hope that 2.0 will be "stable" when it is got the status "stable".

ironic! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7914152)

isn't it ironic .... Michael, the biggest gimp of them all, reporting on the Gimp!

CMYK support? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7914161)

Awesome! GIMP catches up with Photoshop 4.0

Hooray for the Open Source development model!

Re:CMYK support? (1)

grub (11606) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914196)


Hooray for the Open Source development model!
brHow far along in Photoshop's life-line did CMYK support appear? Remember that GIMP has a several year disadvantage to Photoshop.

Re:CMYK support? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7914256)

The first retail version was Adobe Photoshop 3.0. A year later Adobe Photoshop 4.0 was released. It was the first version I ever used for correcting photographs and I remember distinctly it had CMYK color support. I want to say this was back in 1997 but I'm not sure. So the GIMP is what, three years in developement and they just now got CMYK?

Pretty much from day 1, I think... (1)

inimicus (194187) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914267)

Though I can't verify it (all my old Photoshop floppies went bad some time ago), I'm pretty sure Photoshop had CMYK support (though I'm not sure about color profile support) pretty much from the get-go. But then again, it was (IIRC) _intended_ for print-publication use from day 1 as well...

Re:Pretty much from day 1, I think... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7914314)

Yeah, The GIMP's initial ambition was to be "something else," not a PhotoShop replacement anyway. That considered, and the stage in its development, I'd say it's not half bad.

Difficult to use or? (5, Interesting)

tindur (658483) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914162)

A lot of people say Gimp is difficult to use. Is it difficult for people who are used to Photoshop or is it difficult for everybody?

I haven't used image manipulation programs and would like to learn the basics. There are courses for Photoshop. Would it help me to take one of them?

Re:Difficult to use or? (5, Interesting)

Mephisto_kur (300898) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914221)

As someone who just recently started playing with this stuff, I can say that GIMP is much less intuitive than PS. That is the main problem. Since Photoshop is based on an MDI setup, and the standard menu style of most GUI apps out currently, it is leaps and bounds easier to just jump right into than GIMP.

GIMP is a powerful program, I'll give it that. With the addition of CMYK you can expect some graphics folks that have been waiting to move to jump ship, but it still needs some serious work on the user interface before I expect it will become as main stream as PS or PSP.

Re:Difficult to use or? (1, Informative)

Ianoo (711633) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914310)

Your "intuitiveness" about MDI applications is false intuitiveness brought on by using too much Windows software. MDI applications are horrendous for inexperienced users, and even Microsoft tried to phase them out (witness Word 2000). Macs and most X windows toolkits don't even have them. Tabbed user interfaces are generally considered better (but aren't great).

Re:Difficult to use or? (0)

TheMidget (512188) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914222)

Actually, the gimp is much more easy to use than photoshop:
  • put dead president into scanner
  • click File->Acquire->ScanImage
  • click File->Print
Now, try the same in Photoshop CS!

Re:Difficult to use or? (4, Funny)

AKnightCowboy (608632) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914347)

Now, try the same in Photoshop CS!

I just put a picture of JFK in my scanner and imported it into Photoshop CS just fine.

Re:Difficult to use or? (1)

contagen (659632) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914228)

I'm pretty much a newb to image manipulation software, and I've used both photoshop and gimp...both have a significant learning curve for doing more advanced techniques, and both pretty easy if you are just trying to do standard things like cropping, rotation, color correction, &c. I don't see either as being harder or more complicated...it's just like any new program, you have to learn the interface.

Re:Difficult to use or? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7914232)

imo people that use photoshop, psp and the usual mdi programs. I have a friend who always complains about the gimp gui and rants on and on about it not being like photoshop. Personally I never used photoshop much, besides playing with its filters once upon a time, so I never grew attached to its interface, this may or not be the reason I really like the gimp interface. So I think the people ranting are the people use to the other interface, but maybe not....

Re:Difficult to use or? (4, Informative)

tgd (2822) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914242)

I generally find Gimp very easy to use, even easier in some ways than Photoshop (although I think the difference between which you're comfortable with largely comes from whether or not you find top menus or context menus more convenient).

The actual methodologies you use between the two are very similar, although newer Photoshops have some interesting capabilities that Gimp doesn't have. For even very advanced graphic design, Gimp can certainly do it. Its got more features than people were using to do any imaging work a few years ago with things like Photoshop.

Courses that cover techniques could certainly be useful, with the understanding that the actual steps may be different in Gimp. Knowing what to do is more important than how to do it.

Re:Difficult to use or? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7914249)

There's a course online somewhere called Grokking the GIMP that I thought was pretty useful. I'm at work right now, otherwise I'd provide a link. You should be able to google it up pretty quickly. Enjoy

Grokking the Gimp (3, Informative)

CapnKirk (201123) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914419)

It's an online book [gimp-savvy.com] , best I've ever read on the GIMP. The instructions for how to retouch photos is fantastic. You can also buy a hardcopy.

Re:Difficult to use or? (3, Informative)

Pope Raymond Lama (57277) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914250)

It is difficult for people who have never used it. As is pretty much anything else.

The "big difference" is that instead of oppening the whole program, images and sibblings in a single window, The GIMP opens the toolboxes and images in separate windows. This allows a serious user to make an optimal use of the multiple desktops avaliable in almost all window manager for X11 out there.

As for making a phtoshop course, go for it. But make sure to pick a good course. If you pick a crappy one, that instead of teaching you some of the fundaments behind image manipulation, just mention a couple of the latest Photoshop automagic wizards, that will do you no good, either for using The GIMP, or for doing any serious work.

On the other hand, with a good course, you will find that most of the really usefull stuff on Photoshop or the like is in the GIMP, sometimes even more powerfull.

Re:Difficult to use or? (4, Insightful)

rusty0101 (565565) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914309)

"The GIMP" (proper name include "The") takes some time to learn. You can use many of the skills you learn in using Photoshop, however getting to the tools you are familiar with is an exercise in creative thinking. The Interface is different, so if the tool you are looking for is (as an example) adjusting the gama for a layer, you have to navigate through different menus than you would under Photoshop, or PSP.

Whether that makes it "harder" than the other tools is a matter of interpretation.

The largest problem with learning The GIMP right now is that if you go to a bricks and mortar book store, you will be hard pressed to find a "Teach yourself" or "24 hours" type book, especially for the current version. There are tutorials online, and some of the techniques documented in earlier books (look at the online used books) are still useful.

Photoshop has been around longer, and has more marketing muscle behind it because Adobe has earned quite a bit of money off the product. As a result of those two factors (and perhaps a dozen others I am not aware of) it is easier to find people willing to earn money teaching you how to use the product. If you drop over $200 on a piece of software, wouldn't you want to make sure you had some pretty good ideas on how to use it?

The GIMP on the other hand is more of a play with this tool, and see what you can do, how about that tool, etc.

Just my thoughts, others may think otherwise.

-Rusty

Re:Difficult to use or? (3, Interesting)

Lispy (136512) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914340)

Well, this probably depends on how familiar with PCs you are. I am not an Imagemanipulation-guru myself but I had no trouble getting my work done (some webgraphics, Digicam-Manipulation and so on) with either Adobe Photoshop or Gimp.

They actually look a bit different but follow the same basic concept. The "tools" you get are mostly the same, their location and symbols may differ and the holy war about wether the windows are "docked" inside a framewindows or free floating is mostly a question of taste.

Therefore if you are quite at home with a modern dekstop PC you will soon feel comfortably with both systems.

So, to answer your question I would say that Gimp is easier for newbies and pretty hard for Photoshop-hardliners who have become very used to Photoshop and all its quirks.

Have you ever seen a Graphicdesigner use Photoshop on a Mac? Honestly its impressive (for me at least). They move thru the menus like a sleepwalker. Of course they would have a hard time to learn something new.

My hint: If youre a cheap (like me) with a decent knowledge of modern GUIs get TheGimp and see if it suits you. I like it and use it for all my picture edit needs!

cu,
Lispy

Re:Difficult to use or? (1)

marcello_dl (667940) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914388)

You can download version 1.3 or later and try out for yourself.

You can also download free documentation and manuals here [dmoz.org] and start experimenting. You'll see gimp has enough functionality to keep you busy for some time. Most of the things you learn on gimp are still valid when (if) you switch to photoshop.

Personally, and regarding basic operations, i found the gimp easy enough, compared to photoshop, but the interface needs to get better on things like rotation. Let's see the 2.0, though.

The List of mirrors is slashdoted. (4, Informative)

chrestomanci (558400) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914180)

Africa ftp://ftp.is.co.za/applications/gimp/ [is.co.za] Australia ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/gimp/gimp/ [planetmirror.com]
http://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/gimp/gimp/ [planetmirror.com]
ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/gimp/ [aarnet.edu.au]
http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/gimp/ [aarnet.edu.au]
ftp://gimp.zeta.org.au/gimp/gimp/ [zeta.org.au] Austria ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/graphics/gimp/gimp/ [tuwien.ac.at] Finland ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/sci/graphics/packages/gimp/ [funet.fi] France ftp://ftp.minet.net/pub/gimp/ [minet.net]
http://ftp.iut-bm.univ-fcomte.fr/pub/gimp/ [univ-fcomte.fr] Germany ftp://ftp.fh-heilbronn.de/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/gim p/ [fh-heilbronn.de]
ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/misc/grafik/gimp/ [ftp.gwdg.de]
http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/misc/grafik/gimp/ [ftp.gwdg.de] Greece ftp://sunsite.ics.forth.gr/sunsite/pub/gimp/ [forth.gr] Ireland ftp://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/ [esat.net]
http://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/ [esat.net] Japan ftp://SunSITE.sut.ac.jp/pub/archives/packages/gimp / [sut.ac.jp]
ftp://ftp.u-aizu.ac.jp/pub/graphics/tools/gimp/ [u-aizu.ac.jp]
http://www.ring.gr.jp/pub/graphics/gimp/ [ring.gr.jp]
ftp://ftp.ring.gr.jp/pub/graphics/gimp/ [ring.gr.jp]
http://mirror.nucba.ac.jp/mirror/gimp/ [nucba.ac.jp]
ftp://mirror.nucba.ac.jp/mirror/gimp/ [nucba.ac.jp] Korea ftp://ftp.kreonet.re.kr/pub/tools/X11/ftp.gimp.org / [kreonet.re.kr] Netherlands http://gnu.kookel.org/ftp/gimp/ [kookel.org]
ftp://gnu.kookel.org/pub/gimp/ [kookel.org] Norway ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/gimp/ [sunsite.uio.no] Poland ftp://ftp.tuniv.szczecin.pl/pub/Linux/gimp/ [szczecin.pl]
ftp://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/pub/graphics/gimp/ [icm.edu.pl] Romania ftp://ftp.kappa.ro/pub/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/ [kappa.ro]
ftp://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/pub/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/ [roedu.net]
http://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/ [roedu.net] Russia ftp://ftp.sai.msu.su/pub/unix/graphics/gimp/mirror / [sai.msu.su]
http://gimp.tsuren.net/mirror/gimp/ [tsuren.net] Sweden ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/gimp/ [acc.umu.se]
ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/gnu/gimp/ [sunet.se]
http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/gnu/gimp/ [sunet.se] Turkey ftp://ftp.hun.edu.tr/pub/linux/gimp/ [hun.edu.tr] United Kingdom ftp://unix.hensa.ac.uk/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/pub/gi mp/ [hensa.ac.uk]
ftp://ftp.flirble.org/pub/X/gimp/gimp/ [flirble.org] United States ftp://ftp.cs.umn.edu/pub/gimp/ [umn.edu]

WARNING! Interspersed GOATSE.CX Links!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7914296)

Trust me, there's a few of them in there... MODERATE ACCORDINGLY!!

God I hope I'm not going to be fired...

Re:The List of mirrors is slashdoted. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7914332)

You should post things like this anonymously. Otherwise you're just karma whoring.

Re:The List of mirrors is slashdoted. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7914444)

I didn't check, but I bet there's a goatse link in there somewhere.

server slow, mirror list: (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7914199)

Sorry, couldn't format it because of Slashdot's fucking filters.
ftp://ftp.is.co.za/applications/gimp/ [is.co.za] ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/gimp/gimp/ [planetmirror.com] http://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/gimp/gimp/ [planetmirror.com] ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/gimp/ [aarnet.edu.au] http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/gimp/ [aarnet.edu.au] ftp://gimp.zeta.org.au/gimp/gimp/ [zeta.org.au] ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/graphics/gimp/gimp/ [tuwien.ac.at] ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/sci/graphics/packages/gimp/ [funet.fi] ftp://ftp.minet.net/pub/gimp/ [minet.net] http://ftp.iut-bm.univ-fcomte.fr/pub/gimp/ [univ-fcomte.fr] ftp://ftp.fh-heilbronn.de/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/gim p/ [fh-heilbronn.de] ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/misc/grafik/gimp/ [ftp.gwdg.de] http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/misc/grafik/gimp/ [ftp.gwdg.de] ftp://sunsite.ics.forth.gr/sunsite/pub/gimp/ [forth.gr] ftp://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/ [esat.net] http://ftp.esat.net/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/ [esat.net] ftp://SunSITE.sut.ac.jp/pub/archives/packages/gimp / [sut.ac.jp] ftp://ftp.u-aizu.ac.jp/pub/graphics/tools/gimp/ [u-aizu.ac.jp] http://www.ring.gr.jp/pub/graphics/gimp/ [ring.gr.jp] ftp://ftp.ring.gr.jp/pub/graphics/gimp/ [ring.gr.jp] http://mirror.nucba.ac.jp/mirror/gimp/ [nucba.ac.jp] ftp://mirror.nucba.ac.jp/mirror/gimp/ [nucba.ac.jp] ftp://ftp.kreonet.re.kr/pub/tools/X11/ftp.gimp.org / [kreonet.re.kr] http://gnu.kookel.org/ftp/gimp/ [kookel.org] ftp://gnu.kookel.org/pub/gimp/ [kookel.org] ftp://sunsite.uio.no/pub/gimp/ [sunsite.uio.no] ftp://ftp.tuniv.szczecin.pl/pub/Linux/gimp/ [szczecin.pl] ftp://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/pub/graphics/gimp/ [icm.edu.pl] ftp://ftp.kappa.ro/pub/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/ [kappa.ro] ftp://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/pub/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/ [roedu.net] http://ftp.iasi.roedu.net/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/ [roedu.net] ftp://ftp.sai.msu.su/pub/unix/graphics/gimp/mirror / [sai.msu.su] http://gimp.tsuren.net/mirror/gimp/ [tsuren.net] ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/gimp/ [acc.umu.se] ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/gnu/gimp/ [sunet.se] http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/gnu/gimp/ [sunet.se] ftp://ftp.hun.edu.tr/pub/linux/gimp/ [hun.edu.tr] ftp://unix.hensa.ac.uk/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/pub/gi mp/ [hensa.ac.uk] ftp://ftp.flirble.org/pub/X/gimp/gimp/ [flirble.org] ftp://ftp.cs.umn.edu/pub/gimp/ [umn.edu]

Ready for printing? Don't think so. (5, Insightful)

AnriL (657435) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914206)

Having CMYK support is all fine and dandy but it won't get you far in the printing world without support for colour profiles and colour calibration. Linux sadly lags behind others (Windows, MacOS) in this area, and having Gimp support CMYK is like fitting racing wheels onto a horse and shoving it onto the Indycar track ...

Mod away...

Re:Ready for printing? Don't think so. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7914277)

Yea because of the OS is really lagging...

fuck off turd squirter. the OS is not lagging ,it the APP that is lagging.

if you get your hands on the linux version of photoshop (disney studios have it) then you can stop whining.

Cripes, I' am sick of know-nothing idiots like you posting to slashdot... oh wait...

Re:Ready for printing? Don't think so. (1)

AnriL (657435) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914345)

Yea because of the OS is really lagging... fuck off turd squirter. the OS is not lagging ,it the APP that is lagging.

Colour profiling should be a part of the OS so that all applications can make use of it. Actually, a part of the display system, which would make it XFree86's fault for not supporting colour calibration. Besides, how do you expect an application to have colour calibration support without the display system supporting it? Should the application just blindly trust the display system to display accurate colour? Don't think so.

Yes, Linux and The X Window System sucks at colour calibration support. Get over it.

OTOH, I suppose commercial Unices (I'd expect at least Irix) do have colour calibration support, since SGI's are (were?) widely used in the graphics industry.

Re:Ready for printing? Don't think so. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7914349)

if you get your hands on the linux version of photoshop (disney studios have it)

There is no Linux version of Photoshop. Disney uses VMWare.

Re:Ready for printing? Don't think so. (3, Informative)

jcupitt65 (68879) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914350)

There's a thing to output to CMYK using a colour profile via littlecms [littlecms.com] .


What GIMP is missing is native CMYK (ie. it's all still RGB for editing). Next version!

I realize (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7914238)

This will be modded to hell, but I don't care.

I realize GIMP is better than nothing, but its clunky, clumsy, and JASC paintshop pro for $40 seems a better deal overall.

Sorry, had to get that off my chest.

Re:I realize (1)

colinleroy (592025) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914284)

You know, Gimp's primary platform is not windows. And there's no Paintshop Pro for linux that I know of.

Re:I realize (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7914372)

Platform choice is not important; application is important.

That was true 25 years ago, it is still true.

Why do you think the Mac held on through the 90's? It certainly wasn't the horrible mess that was OS 7, 8 & 9. 9 was so unstable that it reminded me of Windows 3.x.

Anybody knows the CMYK value for green? (-1, Redundant)

TheMidget (512188) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914239)

<fluffy kitten>

They fixed the interface (mostly)! (5, Interesting)

ciaran_o_riordan (662132) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914247)

For anyone that hasn't tried it out, the interface is much improved. Great news since this is most peoples biggest gripe.

toolboxes are now dockable with the main toolbox, so you just have one toolbox window, and a window for the image. Also, the image window has a menu bar now.

Windows version? (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7914251)

So, will there be a Windows version anytime soon for us Windows users (over half of ./), or are we stuck with the ancient 1.2.5? I would like to try it out, since the newer versions are said to have a less sucky UI making them actually usable, but the Windows port of the GIMP seems... dead.
(and no, don't even think about saying "upgrade to linux" or something similar - some of us have to stick with the platform, some of us simply prefer it, and in no way are you going to get people to switch to Linux because it is the only thing that runs the GIMP)

Re:Windows version? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7914286)

Yes, there's a Windows version. It's called "Download the trial version of Paint Shop Pro from www.jasc.com and then download the 30-day trial crack from www.cracks.am and fucking enjoy yourself because you are using the superior product."

Re:Windows version? (4, Informative)

dylan_- (1661) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914407)

So, will there be a Windows version anytime soon for us Windows users (over half of ./), or are we stuck with the ancient 1.2.5?

I'm running 1.3.23 on my Win2K machine. Download it from http://www.gimp.org/~tml/gimp/win32/downloads.html

You may have to wait a bit till gimp.org gets back on its feet...

I had a problem in that it didn't detect my fonts, and I had to grab fontconfig from http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/WindowsInstall to fix it. The new interface took a little getting used to, but I like it now.

Gimp/Cinepaint merge (1)

gr8_phk (621180) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914283)

Gimp and Cinepaint should merge. Why not? The Cinepaint guys roadmap shows some items being pulled across from GIMP and development of new stuff that would certainly be welcome in GIMP. The main difference is Cinepaint was restructured to support the deeper color depths required by the studios. It seems to me that GIMP may actually have more active development going on. The fork just seems unfortunate to me - I suspect politics at work, which can't be productive.

Re:Gimp/Cinepaint merge (1)

grumbel (592662) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914386)

Yes, the fork is unfortunate, but as far as I know a merge will not happen in the near future. The reason for that is simply that Gimp2 is in huge parts a rewrite of Gimp1, lots of code cleanup and such. But since Cinepine is forked from the Gimp1 code base, there is not much left that Cinepaint and Gimp2 really share, sure they still look similar, but under the hood a lot of stuff has changed. So its probally already to late to merge again, to much has changed since the fork.

Mandrake Cooker has it (4, Informative)

Gtz (18854) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914288)

The package gimp1_3 in the Mandrake Cooker contribs is already at version 2.0pre1. Users of 9.2 should be able to install it too.

Go to Easy Urpmi [urpmi.org] and add a Cooker contribs source if you don't have one already. Then type urpmi gimp1_3 and you're done.

CMYK support getting closer, but not here yet (4, Informative)

ubiquitin (28396) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914319)

I wanted to clarify one point from this slashdot posting: GIMP 2.0pre1 has plugin or two that can handle some CMYK functionality, but this is not the release that uses gegl, or the generic enhanced graphics library [gegl.org] . GEGL is the project that will bring all the bells and whistles necessary for proper colorspace support.

currency detector? (-1, Redundant)

ciupman (413849) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914324)

Will this bundle a somekind of currency image detector (US and EURO)? >:)

Just in time (1)

rjamestaylor (117847) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914348)

  • Apparently the GIMP is finally adding CYMK support, for those of you working in the print world.
Whew! What with PhotoSTOP and all I wasn't sure how I could keep the boss happy with his funny money needs. Things sure work out in mysterious ways. Whew!

Help Me Out GIMPers (4, Interesting)

subjectstorm (708637) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914387)

I've been using photoshop for about, eh . . . 2.5 years now. I'm currently using 6 on a Win 2K box here at work.

It nice, but it can be an enormous resource hog. it also likes to occasionally lose all of the styles i've loaded or created myself.

anybody out there using both that can tell me how they differ in terms of performance or ease of use? photoshop can be damned cryptic sometimes.

also, i can read the specs all day, so if your answer is "RTFS" or "photoshop suXX0rz" then you can just shove it. I'm asking more about perceived differences.

i've got mandrake at home, so i COULD load it up there and play with it, but i HATE taking my work home. anyone using it on windows? don't flame me, i don't have a choice here :)

money jokes? (1)

apachetoolbox (456499) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914399)

What's up with all the jokes about coping money? What'd I miss? :)

gimp is too complicated for me... (2, Interesting)

Maditude (473526) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914417)

At last, I can ask slashdot without being too off-topic! Gimp, like photoshop, is just too much for me -- I've recently made a full-time switch to Linux at home, and the one thing on my list of needed software is a SIMPLE photo editor (for fixing red-eye and not much else). I was pretty happy with PhotoImpression under Windows, but haven't found anything close to that level of simplicity under Linux. Anyone got any suggestions (preferably aside from Wine and Gimp) for something that runs well under Linux?

Screenshots (4, Informative)

ghostis (165022) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914418)

Here are some decent screenshots [golem.de]

-ghostis

I wonder... (1)

shic (309152) | more than 10 years ago | (#7914434)

Is there a Win32 binary (installer?) available for GIMP 2.0?
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