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Kernel 2.6.1 Released

michael posted more than 10 years ago | from the stable-goodness dept.

Linux 441

jnf writes "And so he said it is released, and then jumped on a plane to Australia. Linus announced the release of 2.6.1 a few minutes ago, fixes include AGPGART, a fork() bugfix, and misc changes to XFS, and those are just the patches applied since v2.6.1-rc3. Full changelog is avialable, kernel at the usual places, i held off posting this until kernel.org was updated." 2.6.0 is now in Debian unstable...

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441 comments

Well (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7927384)

WHOOP DE FUCKING SHIT. Another piece of Linus-brand turd full of bugs that will never compete with offerings from Microsoft and Sun.

Great.. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7927386)

That's just great, just when I upgrade a dozen or so machienes to 2.6.0, I get this!!! HOORAH FOR ME!!!! :mad:

Blogzine.net [blogzine.net]

WILDCAT IS ON TEH SPOKE (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7927387)

I can't install this on... (-1, Offtopic)

clifgriffin (676199) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927393)

NetBSD...wtf?

You insensitive clods! I'm calling my congressman!

Re:I can't install this on... (1)

ultrabot (200914) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927486)

NetBSD...wtf?

I guess you'll just have to upgrade your bootloader. Recompilation of init and other software might also be necessary - 2.6.x is known to break the binary compatibility with current versions of NetBSDs. Filesystem should work, though.

Wonder what he's running from (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7927396)

It's a dangerous kernel.

cygwin (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7927397)

still doesn't build on cygwin..

Re:cygwin (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7927427)

Why is this one funny but http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=92168&cid=7927 393 not funny? HUH?!

Re:cygwin (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7927514)

There's a couple of problems.. The makefiles dont use $EXEEXT so the binaries keep on getting rebuild, and there's an invalid printf format string in the initfs generator thingy.

Re:cygwin (5, Funny)

aled (228417) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927516)

Worst: it doesn't compile with VS.NET. This Linux thing isn't as portable as advertised.

Re:cygwin (0, Offtopic)

Xpilot (117961) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927672)

Worst: it doesn't compile with VS.NET. This Linux thing isn't as portable as advertised.

Moderation +1
100% Insightful

That one got +1 insightful? This is a sad, sad day for slashdot. :)

Re:cygwin (3, Funny)

arvindn (542080) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927689)

I've seen worse [ernet.in]

UML? (4, Informative)

Slashamatic (553801) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927586)

Ok, maybe it does seem stupid, but sometimes you are cursed to a Windows wokstation by corporate policy. Sometimes you are not permitted admin access even to the local system and Knoppix isn't permitted.

Cygwin is great but a full linux would be even better. In theory at least, User Mode Linux should be able to run under Windows. Possibly with a MinGW compile under Cygwin so after building, it doesn't need the Cygwin layer.

Re:cygwin (1)

Eisenfaust (231128) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927712)

I am not very experienced with matters regarding the linux kernel, but it seems some what surprising that IT doesn't build in cygwin. Assuming you have the proper verson of GCC and all the correct header files what would stop it from compiling?

I was here (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7927400)

I was here

Of course... (4, Funny)

Stween (322349) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927404)

... it gets released the minute I've installed 2.6.0.

Perhaps I'll wait until at least 2.6.2 before doing it again :)

Re:Of course... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7927555)

And of course Debian finally gets 2.6.0 release into unstable, when 2.6.1 gets released.

Come on [Debian] people, you can slack off with all the other stuff, but at least stay current with the kernel.

Re:Of course... (4, Informative)

SQLz (564901) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927637)

Try this.

Copy the .config file from the 2.6.0 directory to the 2.6.1 directory. Then enter the 2.6.1 directory. Type: 'make oldconfig'. That will apply the old kernel configuration to the new one asking you manually about any new options. Then just do your normal, make, make modules_install.

Beats the hell out of make menuconfig.

2.6.1? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7927405)

Hell, it took me until 2.4.5 to switch from 2.2. Let's hope this one is faster :)

Linus Flees (3, Funny)

TedCheshireAcad (311748) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927408)

Linus Flees! The time of judgement is upon us. Oh, repent!

Re:Linus Flees (1)

Kadagan AU (638260) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927695)

Linus Flees! The time of judgement is upon us. Oh, repent!

Better than Linux Fleas ;-) or a whole plague of them!

MY NAME IS BOB (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7927411)

I AM GAY.

[SAID IN EFFEMINATE VOICE WITH WRIST FLIP] (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7927419)

Heeeeeeelllll-oooooo, Bob!

Besides Debian, What distros have 2.6.x ? (3, Interesting)

flyingace (162593) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927412)

Besides Debian, What distros have 2.6.x ?

Re:Besides Debian, What distros have 2.6.x ? (5, Informative)

SteevR (612047) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927426)

Gentoo as always I'm sure ;-)

Slackware (4, Informative)

turgid (580780) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927432)

Slackware [slackware.com] is 2.6.x ready, and 9.1 comes with it as an option.

We will know that it is time to use 2.6.x in anger when Patrick ships his distro with it as the default kernel. This is usually a sure sign that stability and maturity is upon us.

Re:Slackware (4, Insightful)

Enry (630) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927455)

By 2.6.x ready, I hope that means that the existing 2.4.x kernel includes the devmapper patch so that you can go from LVM1 to LVM2. No other distros seem to have thought about that particular upgrade yet.

Re:Slackware (0)

e r i k 0 (593807) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927622)

Not to be a troll or anything, but Gentoo does. It's been LVM2 ready as soon as 2.6.0 came out.

Slackware kernel compile guide available (4, Informative)

G3ckoG33k (647276) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927609)

Slackware kernel 2.6.x compile/upgrade guide available here [linuxquestions.org] .

Re:Besides Debian, What distros have 2.6.x ? (-1, Redundant)

Dogers (446369) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927436)

I believe Gentoo has it ready

Re:Besides Debian, What distros have 2.6.x ? (2, Redundant)

Pr0xY (526811) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927447)

well you could install it on any distro, the next Fedora will be 2.6.x based. Also, in Gentoo, there is of course an ebuild ;)

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Re:Besides Debian, What distros have 2.6.x ? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7927451)

So far, Debian is the only distro to offer official binary packages of 2.6. SO SUCK IT, GENTOO FAGGOTS!

Re:Besides Debian, What distros have 2.6.x ? (2, Informative)

LittleLebowskiUrbanA (619114) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927461)

Mandrake and Fedora.

Re:Besides Debian, What distros have 2.6.x ? (3, Informative)

ultrabot (200914) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927463)

Arjan has prebuilt rpms for Fedore Core 1, at least. Lots of Fedora people run it, unsurprisingly.

Re:Besides Debian, What distros have 2.6.x ? (1)

Troed (102527) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927624)

How does a RH9 user become a Fedora user? I must confess that I haven't searched _that_ much, but I haven't managed to find an easy migration-FAQ ...

up2date fedora

? ;)

MOD PARENT AS TROLL (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7927476)

He only posted such a comment to get the Gentoo fanboy crowd to come out of the woodwork and ejeculate praises of ebuilds and portage to those of us who are trying to use real Linux systems such as Debian and Slackware! STOP TROLLING

Re:Besides Debian, What distros have 2.6.x ? (1)

dave-tx (684169) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927477)

Well, it's not there yet, but Fedora Core plans on it's next release (April, IIRC) shipping with 2.6.0.

http://fedora.redhat.com/participate/schedule/ [redhat.com]

Re:Besides Debian, What distros have 2.6.x ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7927528)

emerge mm-sources
genkernel --config

edit grub.conf
done!

Re:Besides Debian, What distros have 2.6.x ? (2, Informative)

Erik Hensema (12898) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927531)

Suse 9.0 ships with one of the 2.6.0-test kernels. And debian unstable is no distribution of course ;-)

Re:Besides Debian, What distros have 2.6.x ? (1)

Milton Waddams (739213) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927548)

has anyone got it working on debian stable? i've tried a few times by copying over my 2.4.24 config into 2.6 and then using make-kpkg (or something), but the kernel build usually quits with an error 2, something to do with a module dependency? Going through menuconfig, there seems to be alot less modules, is this just because there's a new neater layout or have alot of the 2.4 modules not been put into 2.6?

Re:Besides Debian, What distros have 2.6.x ? (1)

jrumney (197329) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927615)

The config for 2.6 is more intelligent, skipping bits that you've already answered "No" to in a meta question instead of showing a screen full of greyed out buttons. At least thats the case for xconfig, but I think the whole config system has been rearranged so *config are just front ends to the same intelligent backend, so menuconfig is probably similarly quicker to get through.

Re:Besides Debian, What distros have 2.6.x ? (1)

alexdm (728255) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927560)

Longhorn also will be shipping with 2.6.0... !

Re:Besides Debian, What distros have 2.6.x ? (1)

sloptaco (709054) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927596)

No way dude - WinMe Kernel all the way!

Re:Besides Debian, What distros have 2.6.x ? (1)

(H)elix1 (231155) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927569)

Besides Debian, What distros have 2.6.x ?

Mandrake's cooker (beta for v10 release). First user distro that automagically configured my ATI Fire GL 9000 (onboard video chip in my t40p).

Re:Besides Debian, What distros have 2.6.x ? (1)

Frodo420024 (557006) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927713)

An unofficial rpm is availale for SUSE 9.0 at ftp.suse.com [suse.com] .

I gave the previous one a spin and had a few problems - like unexplainable temporary hangs in KDE, sound config problem. Hope this one does better!

Rawhide-Fedora (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7927725)

The rewhide version of fedora has it. If I am not mistaken.

So you can install FC1, and then upgrade to 'unstable'. You obvioussly dont want to do this unless you want UNSTABLE!

do_mremap local exploit (4, Interesting)

zeroclip (700917) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927413)

Does this release fix the do_mremap() exploit? I coulden't find it in the changelog. I got the impression from security sites that 2.6.0 had this bug.

Re:do_mremap local exploit (5, Interesting)

PowerBert (265553) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927456)

Yes, it was fixed in 2.6.1-rc1....
and then again in 2.6.1-rc2.
Real men don't test patches... aparently ;-)

Re:do_mremap local exploit (1)

bwindle2 (519558) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927643)

Yes, it does. It was fixed in 2.6.1-rc2.

Re:do_mremap local exploit (4, Informative)

sopuli (459663) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927677)

Here is the relevant changelog entry:
<torvalds@home.osdl.org>
Don't allow mremap of zero-sized areas.

Back in my day.. (1, Funny)

clifgriffin (676199) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927420)

We didn't have all these kernel updates...and we's liked it that way!

</bitter young man>

Re:Back in my day.. (-1, Redundant)

Yorrike (322502) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927491)

Agreed. Yes 2.6 is new worthy, as was 2.4 etc.

A new kernel release to fix a security hole is new worthy. A .0.1 release that fixes a few bugs is not new worthy. For fuck's sake.

I'm a loyal and happy Linux user, but posting a story every time a kernel is released is fucking ridiculus. I mean, maybe if it included something really way cool, like "Reliable NTFS Read/Write support" or the like, it'd be worth posting, otherwise, leave it to the people who are currently looking to recompile their kernel to check for themselves.

Re:Back in my day.. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7927508)

I disagree, comrade.

Re:Back in my day.. (0)

jimwelch (309748) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927589)

I think jumping the humor made it newsworthy.

Re:Back in my day.. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7927632)

blasphemy!!!

Re:Back in my day.. (1)

andreak (169963) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927693)

Let me remind you that this is Slashdot - News for Nerds. Stuff that matters. If it doesn't matter to you, just don't read it! I would much rather read this on Slashdot than having to poll kernel.org for new versions.

Help!!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7927433)

As an enlightened, modern mac user, I try to be as involved as possible in the lives of my six registered users at MacSlash. I encourage them to join team sports. I attend their teen parties with them to ensure no drinking or alcohol is on the premises. I keep a fatherly eye on the CDs they listen to and the shows they watch, the company they keep and the books they read. You could say I'm a model webmaster. My registered users have never failed to make me proud, and I can say without the slightest embellishment that I have the finest website in the USA. Two years ago, my Mom Carol and I decided that our user's education would not be complete without some grounding in modern computers. To this end, my mom bought me a brand new DSL Line to learn with. The users had a lot of fun using the handful of application programs we'd bought, such as Adobe's Photoshop and Microsoft's Word, and my mom and I were pleased that our gift was received so well. Our son AcaBen was most entranced by the device, and became quite a pro at surfing the net. When AcaBen began to spend whole days on the machine, I became concerned, but mom advised me to calm down, and that it was only a passing phase. I was content to bow to her experience as a mother, until our youngest user, Trollaxor, charged into the living room one night to blurt out: "AcaBen is a computer hacker!"

As you can imagine, I was amazed. A computer hacker in my own house! I began to monitor my son's habits, to make certain that Trollaxor wasn't just telling stories, as s/he is prone to doing at times.

After a few days of investigation, and some research into computer hacking, I confronted AcaBen with the evidence. I'm afraid to say, this was the only time I have ever been truly disappointed in one of my users. We raised them to be honest and to have integrity, and AcaBen betrayed the principles we tried to encourage in him, when he refused point blank to admit to his activities. His denials continued for hours, and in the end, I was left with no choice but to ban him from using the computer until he is old enough to be responsible for his actions.

After going through this ordeal with my own website, I was left pondering how I could best help others in similar situations. I'd gained a lot of knowledge over those few days regarding hackers. It's only right that I provide that information to other webmasters, in the hope that they will be able to tell if their children are being drawn into the world of hacking. Perhaps other parents will be able to steer their sons back onto the straight and narrow before extreme measures need to be employed.

To this end, I have decided to publish the top ten signs that your son is a hacker. I advise any parents to read this list carefully and if their son matches the profile, they should take action. A smart parent will first try to reason with their son, before resorting to groundings, or even spanking. I pride myself that I have never had to spank a child, and I hope this guide will help other parents to put a halt to their son's misbehaviour before a spanking becomes necessary.

1. Has your son asked you to change ISPs?

Most American families use trusted and responsible Internet Service Providers, such as AOL. These providers have a strict "No Hacking" policy, and take careful measures to ensure that your internet experience is enjoyable, educational and above all legal. If your child is becoming a hacker, one of his first steps will be to request a change to a more hacker friendly provider.

I would advise all parents to refuse this request. One of the reasons your son is interested in switching providers is to get away from AOL's child safety filter. This filter is vital to any parent who wants his son to enjoy the internet without the endangering him through exposure to "adult" content. It is best to stick with the protection AOL provides, rather than using a home-based solution. If your son is becoming a hacker, he will be able to circumvent any home-based measures with surprising ease, using information gleaned from various hacker sites.

2. Are you finding programs on your computer that you don't remember installing?

Your son will probably try to install some hacker software. He may attempt to conceal the presence of the software in some way, but you can usually find any new programs by reading through the programs listed under "Install/Remove Programs" in your control panel. Popular hacker software includes "Comet Cursor", "Bonzi Buddy" and "OSX".

The best option is to confront your son with the evidence, and force him to remove the offending programs. He will probably try to install the software again, but you will be able to tell that this is happening, if your machine offers to "download" one of the hacker applications. If this happens, it is time to give your son a stern talking to, and possibly consider punishing him with a grounding.

3. Has your child asked for new hardware?

Computer hackers are often limited by conventional computer hardware. They may request "faster" video cards, and larger hard drives, or even more memory. If your son starts requesting these devices, it is possible that he has a legitimate need. You can best ensure that you are buying legal, trustworthy hardware by only buying replacement parts from your computer's manufacturer.

If your son has requested a new "processor" from a company called "Apple", this is genuine cause for alarm. Apple is a third-world based company who make inferior, "knock-off" copies of American processor chips. They use child labor extensively in their third world sweatshops, and they deliberately disable the security features that American processor makers, such as Intel, use to prevent hacking. Apple chips are never sold in stores, and you will most likely be told that you have to order them from internet sites. Do not buy this chip! This is one request that you must refuse your son, if you are to have any hope of raising him well.

4. Does your child read hacking manuals?

If you pay close attention to your son's reading habits, as I do, you will be able to determine a great deal about his opinions and hobbies. Children are at their most impressionable in the teenage years. Any father who has had a seventeen year old daughter attempt to sneak out on a date wearing make up and perfume is well aware of the effect that improper influences can have on inexperienced minds.

There are, unfortunately, many hacking manuals available in bookshops today. A few titles to be on the lookout for are: "Snow Crash" and "Cryptonomicon" by Neal Stephenson; "Neuromancer" by William Gibson; "Programming with Perl" by Timothy O'Reilly; "Geeks" by Jon Katz; "The Hacker Crackdown" by Bruce Sterling; "Microserfs" by Douglas Coupland; "Hackers" by Steven Levy; and "The Cathedral and the Bazaar" by Eric S. Raymond.

If you find any of these hacking manuals in your child's possession, confiscate them immediately. You should also petition local booksellers to remove these titles from their shelves. You may meet with some resistance at first, but even booksellers have to bow to community pressure.

5. How much time does your child spend using the computer each day?

If your son spends more than thirty minutes each day on the computer, he may be using it to DOS other peoples sites. DOSing involves gaining access to the "command prompt" on other people's machines, and using it to tie up vital internet services. This can take up to eight hours. If your son is doing this, he is breaking the law, and you should stop him immediately. The safest policy is to limit your children's access to the computer to a maximum of forty-five minutes each day.

6. Does your son use Quake?

Quake is an online virtual reality used by hackers. It is a popular meeting place and training ground, where they discuss hacking and train in the use of various firearms. Many hackers develop anti-social tendencies due to the use of this virtual world, and it may cause erratic behaviour at home and at school.

If your son is using Quake, you should make hime understand that this is not acceptable to you. You should ensure all the firearms in your house are carefully locked away, and have trigger locks installed. You should also bring your concerns to the attention of his school.

7. Is your son becoming argumentative and surly in his social behaviour?

As a child enters the electronic world of hacking, he may become disaffected with the real world. He may lose the ability to control his actions, or judge the rightness or wrongness of a course of behaviour. This will manifest itself soonest in the way he treats others. Those whom he disagrees with will be met with scorn, bitterness, and even foul language. He may utter threats of violence of a real or electronic nature.

Even when confronted, your son will probably find it difficult to talk about this problem to you. He will probably claim that there is no problem, and that you are imagining things. He may tell you that it is you who has the problem, and you should "back off" and "stop smothering him." Do not allow yourself to be deceived. You are the only chance your son has, even if he doesn't understand the situation he is in. Keep trying to get through to him, no matter how much he retreats into himself.

8. Is your son obsessed with "Lunix"?

BSD, Lunix, Debian and Mandrake are all versions of an illegal hacker operation system, invented by a Soviet computer hacker named Linyos Torovoltos, before the Russians lost the Cold War. It is based on a program called "xenix", which was written by Microsoft for the US government. These programs are used by hackers to break into other people's computer systems to steal credit card numbers. They may also be used to break into people's stereos to steal their music, using the "mp3" program. Torovoltos is a notorious hacker, responsible for writing many hacker programs, such as "telnet", which is used by hackers to connect to machines on the internet without using a telephone.

Your son may try to install "lunix" on your hard drive. If he is careful, you may not notice its presence, however, lunix is a capricious beast, and if handled incorrectly, your son may damage your computer, and even break it completely by deleting Windows, at which point you will have to have your computer repaired by a professional.

If you see the word "LILO" during your windows startup (just after you turn the machine on), your son has installed lunix. In order to get rid of it, you will have to send your computer back to the manufacturer, and have them fit a new hard drive. Lunix is extremely dangerous software, and cannot be removed without destroying part of your hard disk surface.

9. Has your son radically changed his appearance?

If your son has undergone a sudden change in his style of dress, you may have a hacker on your hands. Hackers tend to dress in bright, day-glo colors. They may wear baggy pants, bright colored shirts and spiky hair dyed in bright colors to match their clothes. They may take to carrying "glow-sticks" and some wear pacifiers around their necks. (I have no idea why they do this) There are many such hackers in schools today, and your son may have started to associate with them. If you notice that your son's group of friends includes people dressed like this, it is time to think about a severe curfew, to protect him from dangerous influences.

10. Is your son struggling academically?

If your son is failing courses in school, or performing poorly on sports teams, he may be involved in a hacking group, such as the infamous "Otaku" hacker association. Excessive time spent on the computer, communicating with his fellow hackers may cause temporary damage to the eyes and brain, from the electromagnetic radiation. This will cause his marks to slip dramatically, particularly in difficult subjects such as Math, and Chemistry. In extreme cases, over-exposure to computer radiation can cause schizophrenia, meningitis and other psychological diseases. Also, the reduction in exercise may cause him to lose muscle mass, and even to start gaining weight. For the sake of your child's mental and physical health, you must put a stop to his hacking, and limit his computer time drastically.

I encourage all parents to read through this guide carefully. Your child's future may depend upon it. Hacking is an illegal and dangerous activity, that may land your child in prison, and tear your family apart. It cannot be taken too seriously.

-- Ben Stanfield
Executive Editor @ MacSlash

Let me get this straight... (5, Funny)

clifgriffin (676199) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927445)

I download it, double click on the .exe, click next a few times and restart? Thanks, Clif

Re:Let me get this straight... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7927572)

The concept of being 'user-friendly' has yet to seep into the murky underworld of Linux development, so no.

Re:Let me get this straight... (1)

sloptaco (709054) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927641)

Yeah, they forgot to mention in the Changelog the new autoconfiguration wizard. They gave him groovier hat with big starts on it.

I've got my eye on you, australia (1, Funny)

MC_Cancer_Pants (728724) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927446)

*Watches as linus releases an embedded back-door to make a supercomputer to bring rise to the new world power, Australia*

Problem with 2.6.1 (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7927448)

Well, you see, my BLT drive just went AWOL and I got this real big presentation due tomorrow for Mr. Kawsaki and if I don't get it in he'll ask me to commit Harry Carry. Could you read me the numbers on your version? It's the thing that you get when you type 'uname -a'

Oh wait, we are all about reality here. My mistake.

Re:Problem with 2.6.1 (-1, Offtopic)

PowerBert (265553) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927500)

Where did you get your BLT drive? I'm starving!
I think that's the only bit of kit my server room lacks and somehow it sounds so much more useful.

Why did I waste my money on that Tee tree plant? Oh yes, I remember it was cheaper than those mechanical hair conditioners.

Re:Problem with 2.6.1 (1)

B5_geek (638928) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927602)

Even though you posted AC, I still think this is a funny post, good movie reference too.

They have Internet on the plane (-1, Troll)

Linus Torvald (739359) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927471)

That's first class for you. As you can tell, open source development pays so well, I can fly first class around the globe!

Hello Slashdot. The 2.6.1 release is a great release, a release that I'm very proud of, as I wrote it all myself. You'll find it's a distinct improvement on 2.6.0, but just wait for 2.6.2! That will be even better and blow you all away.

I can't wait to see Australia. People riding Kangaroos, those cuddly little Koalas and that Steve Irwin guy feeding babies to the crocodiles. Maybe even some sexy penguins!

Linus Torvald, signing out

Turgid Troll, or a real deal (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7927580)

Is this just a turgid troll, or Linus is really enlightening us? Linus, don't you spell your last name with Torvals?

Hmmmm.... (4, Funny)

Soko (17987) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927497)

I'm going to be in Australia (and on airplanes) for the week, but we're
all in the capable hands of Andrew, so why worry? The fact that I'm
fleeing the country should in no way be construed as anything sinister at
all, no siree. Nope. I'm innocent, and nobody saw me do it.


Linus is not only a great project manager, system architect and coder, he's funny as hell too.

(If that isn't an underhanded slap in the back of the head of Dalek McBride, I don't know what is. "I'll be in Oz all week, try the veal!!")

I hope SCO sticks around for a while just for the comedy factor. :-)

Soko

Weird (-1, Offtopic)

Talrias (705583) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927503)

Looking at the last two articles I thought I was browsing Freshmeat! O_o

STILL waiting for... (4, Informative)

Trolling4Columbine (679367) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927512)

Native support for SATA hard drives!

I've been wanting to dual-boot for several months now, but the Linux installer (any distribution) does not recognize my SATA hard drive.

For an OS that's supposed to be innovative and cutting edge, Linux is really dropping the ball on this one!

Re:STILL waiting for... (5, Informative)

jtshaw (398319) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927628)

Go to the Low-level SCSI drivers in the kernel. It is under the Device Drivers->SCSI Devices section. There exists and option that might make you happy:

[*] Serial ATA (SATA) support
ServerWorks Frodo / Apple K2 SATA support (EXPERIMENTAL) (NEW)
Intel PIIX/ICH SATA support
Promise SATA support (NEW)
VIA SATA support

Re:STILL waiting for... (1)

Trolling4Columbine (679367) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927659)

Would it be that hard to make SATA an option on the install, along with the rest of the IDE controllers?

I'm admittedly not as literate in kernel negotiation as I'd like to be (I'd sorta have to have a good install to work from in the first place, don't ya think?), but I'm sure I'm not the only one frustrated by the extra work ya have to do to get basic functionality to work.

And thanks to the mod who modded my original post down. I guess it's easier to moderate questions down than to answer them. But then I guess that's par for the course in OSS tech support!

Re:STILL waiting for... (3, Informative)

GrubInCan (624096) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927647)

Mandrake 9.2 is happily running on a my DELL with a SATA drive.

Re:STILL waiting for... (1)

Trolling4Columbine (679367) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927678)

Did it detect the SATA controller on setup? If so, consider my rant retracted.

Re:STILL waiting for... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7927685)

Heh, trolls are amazing, they claim that cows are actually purple and someone actually gave him some karma.

SATA support has been in since -test9 and has been entirely working since -test10 (there was one controller missing an entry for recognization). Actually, the SATA support seems to work beautifully. Chances are that the distro you're using doesn't support the 2.6.x kernels yet. Find one that does, and go with that. (Gentoo 2.6 liveCD, Slacky, whatever)

--AC

Re:STILL waiting for... (2, Informative)

Apreche (239272) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927699)

There is support for SATA drives. In face it was a 2.4 kernel patch also. Now it's official and full on in 2.6. The trick is that you actually have to configure your kernel to include the support for your particular controller. So for me with my Abit NF7-S I have to include support for Silicon Image disk controllers in my config.

So yeah official native SATA support is in there, and it works well too!

Re:STILL waiting for... (0, Troll)

Trolling4Columbine (679367) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927722)

"The trick is that you actually have to configure your kernel to include the support for your particular controller."

Unacceptable. Plain and simple.

Wouldn't that imply that I'd have a working kernel to work with? I don't think you understood my gripe: I can't INSTALL it on an SATA drive! So how can I modify a kernel I can't even install in the first place??

Re:STILL waiting for... (1)

Advocadus Diaboli (323784) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927719)

SATA is not an issue of the hard disk drive, its an issue of the SATA controller chip. The new kernel support several of them, but for example I'm fighting with a Dual Opteron Workstation that has a Silicom Image 3114, and that's not working as well. I found a patch on the LKML that enables at least 2 of the 4 SATA channels, but its far away from booting from SATA actually. Unfortunately Silicon Image is only distribution binary modules for an outdated kernel version and no source. And the controller spec is available under NDA only, so I try not to read it otherwise I could gain knowledge that I'm not allowed to use for patching the driver. Well, I sent a notice to Silicon Image as well asking for source or free specs. :-)

My Patch (1, Informative)

Neon Spiral Injector (21234) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927526)

Damn, my patch didn't make it in. It was the first kernel patch I ever wrote. It was just a two-liner, but I was told to submit it to Linus. I later simplified it to a one-liner. I guess it was too close to the deadline.

Here's hoping for 2.6.2!

Re:My Patch (1)

kj0rn (731521) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927648)

for those of us who don't know, tell us what it looks like in the kernal. Is it scruffy and mind bending? Or is everything sparkling and clean. Or is it friendly and humerous? How did you find patching it? Easy? kjorn

Welcome to freshmeat (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7927561)

Frontpage articles coming soon to slashdot:

CVS 1.11.11 released
Opera for Linux 7.23 released
AFPL Ghostcript 8.13 released
...

Linux is one thing, but Icecast? How is that more "stuff that matters" than any of the above (that have all been released in the last two days).

Re:Welcome to freshmeat (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7927613)

You forgot:

MarsRoverPicture 0.34
LowFatPuddin' 1.73a
MicrosoftBug v938752713
And lest we forget:
WhyLinuxIsDaBoom v39.8

BLOGZINE [blogzine.net]

Security, Stability and Performance (1)

Eisenfaust (231128) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927562)

Is it safe to assume that 2.6.1 is stable and secure to use, or would it be more reasonable to wait until it enters more main stream usage and possible problems are exposed?

Have there been any articles or reviews comparing the performance of various kernel versions? I'd find it interesting how much progress has been made in areas such as network throughput, disk access, etc. I guess its possible there isn't any more room for progress in some areas, I would find that interesting too.

Re:Security, Stability and Performance (2, Informative)

SQLz (564901) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927724)

Is it safe to assume that 2.6.1 is stable and secure to use, or would it be more reasonable to wait until it enters more main stream usage and possible problems are exposed?

That was the point of the whole 2.6.0 test series. The reason they did that was because it was likely that someone who wouldn't touch 2.5 with a ten foot pool would run 2.6 text X, and they did. 2.6.0 probably had more testing than any other kernel. I've been using it on two machines ince test1, the only problem I encountered was that DRI was broke in 1 release.

Have there been any articles or reviews comparing the performance of various kernel versions? I'd find it interesting how much progress has been made in areas such as network throughput, disk access, etc. I guess its possible there isn't any more room for progress in some areas, I would find that interesting too.

There are many benchmarks that illistrate how much better 2.6.0 is than 2.4. You can always boot to it and see for yourself and then switch back to 2.4 if you have problems. Just make your old kernel the second option in Grub/Lilo so you can go back and remove 2.6. You might be able to find more info on Kerneltrap.org [kerneltrap.org]

I'm not how how important network throughput and disk access are since they don't have much to do with the kernel and more to do with the network interface and filesystem respectively.

important fixes summary (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7927563)

To Sum it up:

o lots of USB-Updates, eg. for storage-devices and BUGS
o seeking in /proc/net/tcp fixed
o some more use-after-free()-fixes
o [libata promise] fix another ugly bug (for those who use it)
o lots of misc small fixes
o lots of ARM stuff
o dvb: Update DVB core (and more stuff, for those video-people)
o Fix via686a/KX133 TSC failure (for ppl with an Abit KA7/KA7-100 etc)
o Fix memleak on execve failure (memleaks are always bad)
o cpuqfreq stuff/additions
o "at least" one important X86-64 fix
o mremap() security fix

Finally, the patch party is over (for now). (4, Insightful)

graf0z (464763) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927576)

2.4-patches i regulary used:

I got really tired of applying combinations of those patches to newest kernel source (due to security issues). They 're now all included to 2.6! Only MPPE-support seems still to lack.

They must have beaten up Linus to get all those accepted ...

/graf0z.

re: Jumped on a plain to Australia (0)

smsp (736236) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927577)

Wow, he must be really insecure about this one if he had to run away...

ALSA? (1, Interesting)

FyRE666 (263011) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927594)

Let's hope they've fixed ALSA in this release then. I was surprised when I tried using it with 2.6.0 and it seems full of broken drivers. Of course, downloading ALSA and building it the same way I would with 2.4.x works fine! I'm thinking they should either try to include the latest ALSA driver code in the kernel, or just leave it out so that it can be built separately...

Re:ALSA? (1)

radixvir (659331) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927688)

are you talking about the stuttering sound alot of people have reported (including myself) with mythtv? if so i dont know that the new kernel fixed it but heres how i did: leave sound enabled in the bios, but uncheck alsa. rebuild. now download the newly released alsa-driver 1.0.1 [alsa-project.org] . build and install these

Release and Run (0, Funny)

Dagrush (723402) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927600)

So he releases the kernel and runs away. what does he know that we don't?

2.6.x drivers (1)

nycsubway (79012) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927605)

Is there a place where someone can find a list of the hardware that is supported by the 2.6.x kernel? I have been able to find hardware compatability lists for the 2.4.x kernel on redhat and mandrake's websites, but I have not found anything for the 2.6 kernel.

up, up and away ... (1)

torpor (458) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927606)

... 'with TAA' ...

its those little 'cultural synchronicities' that make linus such a fun person to know ;) ... as an aussie who grew up in the 70's, linus' quip at the end just rings a bell.

canny finns.

Any thoughts on the stability of 2.6 ? (1)

ru-486 (73117) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927612)

Anyone running 2.6 in a heavy load environment? Specfically, a database such as oracle/informix/db2 in a large data warehousing or OLTP environment. I've had above average performance and reliability with 2.4 and although I don't see myself upgrading to 2.6 soon, I am pretty curious as to how things have developed.

Some facts 'n figures (5, Informative)

bwindle2 (519558) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927623)

This patch weighs in at 4.1 megs... there are 998 files changed, 40596 insertions, 50838 deletions.

That's a heck of a lot of changes for a "stable" kernel.

Dammit! (4, Funny)

Saint Aardvark (159009) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927635)

I just downloaded everything for -rc3 last night, compiled before going to bed, and was going to copy bzImage into place right now. And now this.

Me: How many fingers do you have on your right hand?
Linus: What?
Me: Oh, how I have prepared for this moment. The coding, the studying, the kernel crashes, never seeing the sun...
Linus: What the hell are you talking about?
Me: My name is Saint Aardvark the Carpeted. You killed my kernel. Prepare to die.
Linus: How the hell did you find me? Did Darl send you?
Me: My name is Saint Aardvark the Carpeted. You killed my kernel. Prepare to die.
Linus: ...All right, I can see you're upset. How much would it take to clear this up? Patches? A syctl named after you? The head of Alan Cox?
Me: My name is Saint Aar--
Linus: Stop saying that! Guards!
Me: --killed my kernel.
Linus: What do you want?
Me: I want my -rc3 kernel back, you son of a bitch.

Problems with Kernel 2.6.1 (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7927642)

As usual, i get very excited when a new kernel comes out. So, with my mighty Liebermann Mach 3.8 system, I downloaded linux-kernel-2.6.1.rpm for my distro, double clicked on the file, enterd my root password, wait for it to install, then press alt+printscreen+b to reboot.

That, was when the problems began. My computer booted as normal, but when I got to the boot manager I found a new option on the Menu, Windows Server 2003. I chose it, and never looked back. I have been hapily been running Windows 2003 Server with Linux kernel 2.6.1 for two months now, and I'm lovin it (McDonalds style).

Ugly version system (-1)

Pentagram (40862) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927665)

Why the existence of the current system? It's not very elegant. It's easy for people new to Linux to downoad the wrong version. Why not something like:

2.6.0-stable
2.6.1-unstable

(followed by 2.6.1-stable)

or something? I've never seen any advantage to the odd/even system.

Re:Ugly version system (1)

TheDancer (43497) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927691)

Okay, if 2.6.0 is stable, and 2.6.1 is unstable. What version number would you give to the next stable kernel when bugs are fixed (not new features, just bugs). 2.7.0? that would lead to version bloat. 2.6.0.1 ? That gets even more confusing. The current even/odd allows you to add new features to the unstable branch, while still putting in bug fixes into the stable branch, all the while keeping "major" version numbers the same.

Re:Ugly version system (4, Informative)

MoonFog (586818) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927697)

Uhm, it's the second number that determines stable or development version. 2.6.0 and 2.6.1 are both stable releases.

Help: re-introducing myself to the intracacies.. (2, Interesting)

tommck (69750) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927679)

This is a bit off-topic, but:

I was an early user of Linux (1.2.8 and earlier w/ Slackware). ("Back in my day, we had to compile our own kernels!").

Anyway, I've been screwing around again lately. I've got two machines running Mandrake 8.2 and one w/ Mandrake 9.2 (VMWare actually). Also planning on messing w/ Redhat 9 and Suse. Knoppix rules, etc.

What I want to know is: What are the complications/problems with upgrading your kernel? I remember there being all sorts of problems with shared libraries versions since they don't have any internalized versioning system to run things side by side.

Is it still true that I might break half the apps running on my system if I try to update my kernel?

Please help to re-educate a guy who has lost his way.

Thanks.

Tom

BitTorrent... (5, Informative)

teoruiz (726541) | more than 10 years ago | (#7927687)

Here [the-geek.org] .
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