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CES 2004 Coverage

michael posted more than 10 years ago | from the buy-buy-buy dept.

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TheCheat writes "CES 2004 is just getting underway in Las Vegas. It looks like there is quite a bit of coverage from several websites including: Anandtech's revelation of Intel and AMD roadmaps; Tom's Hardware's look at Xbox2 rumors; A look at Microsoft's keynote at ExtremeTech; and finally a look at some BIG monitors at TrustedReviews. It looks like CES is much bigger than COMDEX this year."

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Real world vs. fanboy fantasies (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7930613)



I am what most people would consider a highly trained technical professional. Unlike most people who spout off at this site, I have the certificates to prove this, and furthermore they're issued by the biggest software company in existence.

I know how to tell facts from marketing fluff. Now, here are the facts as they're found by SEVERAL INDEPENDENT RESEARCH INSTITUTES:

Expenses for file-server workloads under Windows, compared to LinuxOS:
  • Staffing expenses were 33.5% better.
  • Training costs were 32.3% better.


They compared Microsofts IIS to the Linux 7.0 webserver. For Windows, the cost was only:
  • $40.25 per megabit of throughput per second.
  • $1.79 per peak request per second.


Application development and support costs for Windows compared to an opensores solution like J2EE:
  • 28.2% less for large enterprises.
  • 25.0% less for medium organizations.


A full Windows installation, compared to installing Linux, on an Enterprise Server boxen:
  • Is nearly three hours faster.
  • Requires 77% fewer steps.


Compared to the best known opensores webserver "Red Hat", Microsoft IIS:
  • Has 276% better peak performance for static transactions.
  • Has 63% better peak performance for dynamic content.


These are hard numbers and 100% FACTS! There are several more where these came from.

Who do you think we professionals trust more?
Reliable companies with tried and tested products, or that bedroom coder Thorwalds who publicly admits that he is in fact A HACKER???

--
Copyright (c) 2004 Mike Bouma, MCSE, MCDST, MS Office Specialist

Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document
under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2
or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation;
with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover
Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled "GNU
Free Documentation License".

Troll troll troll (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7930724)

Certificates to prove it!? Wow, that beats experience anyday!

Funny you should be compairing Win to Linux. I just spent over an hour hunting down and purging adware from my Win2K box (How it got there; accidential web click? Who knows), something I'd never have to do on my Linux box. Your average home user would've spent a lot more time than that with tech support, reinstalls, etc or they'd have given up trying to remove it. I wouldn't trust Windows with anything more important than my copy of Solitaire.

Re:Troll troll troll (1)

hdparm (575302) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930911)

Oh come on man. Why are you even trying to put some meaningful response together?

Although not extremelly entertaining, this troll contains at least couple of funny remarks: Linux Webserver 7.0 and Mike Bouma MS certificates. I found those two hilarious, actually.

Re:Troll troll troll (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7931235)

over an hour huh? not real good at this computer stuff are you? try adaware by lavasoft. Make friends with it. Even my nearly computer illiterate friends have heard of this one

Re:Real world vs. fanboy fantasies (0)

eadint (156250) | more than 10 years ago | (#7931080)

You call that certification, i call that toilet paper.
i kick morons like you out of my building all the time. because your too stupid to know how dangeros you are. i dont know where you pulled those numbers from your ass maybe. but get a fsking clue, the real world uses unix and linus for enterprise apps.
and those are the most worthless certificates a person can have, hell eaven a cna is better that that,

Re:Real world vs. fanboy fantasies (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7931323)

Wow, your grammar and spelling is atrocious.

FP! (-1, Troll)

Danta (2241) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930620)

Yep, another first post by me :-D

- DT

Comdex? (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7930621)

My penis is bigger than Comdex was last year. And I am a FP troll, so that doesn't speak well for my penis.

Re:Comdex? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7930752)

You call yourself a FP troll, you worthless maggot? Don't quit your day job, buster. YFI!

If this is not the first post... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7930627)

I will smear honey about my asshole and testicles and roll around on a fire-ants' nest.

As always, links to pictures would be posted!

Re:If this is not the first post... (0, Offtopic)

vspazv (578657) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930675)

Any chance of a torrent link with a video?

Re:If this is not the first post... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7930719)

My GOD man!! He's about to sacrifice his vitals to viscious, man-eating insects, and all you can think about is watching him suffer on video?

Re:If this is not the first post... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7930921)

Since he has never come through with his promises, I'd say he deserves it.

YOU FAILED IT (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7930782)

Now make with the honey and the insects and the video!

really BIG monitors? (5, Funny)

Metallic Matty (579124) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930633)

A freakin' 76 inch monitor!?

My god.. its like some sort of idol for geekish worship.

Re:really BIG monitors? (4, Interesting)

MoonFog (586818) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930723)

I worked at National Oilwell Norway last summer, and some people there used 3 - 4 monitors to draw an AutoCAD drawing. For them, these monitor sizes might be just what they need.

Also, imagine displaying your entire source code on the screen without needing to scroll ;)

Re:really BIG monitors? (3, Informative)

ePhil_One (634771) | more than 10 years ago | (#7931128)

No, because the resolution is only 1920x1080, meaning its good for HDTV content, presetaions, etc, but will suck doing your spreadsheets unless you want to work on them from accross the room.

Re:really BIG monitors? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7931952)

Also, imagine displaying your entire source code on the screen without needing to scroll ;)


No problem:
main()
{
printf("Hello World!");
}

Re:really BIG monitors? (0)

locutus_borg (36786) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930736)

The unfortunate thing about this is the price... prolly somewhere around $16,000-$20,000?

heh

Re:really BIG monitors? (1)

GuyWithLag (621929) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930894)

Remember that it has a resolution of 1,920 x 1,080. At 76", that gives you approx 32 dpi. I still want that $8000 22" LCD monitor with ~200dpi ....

Re:really BIG monitors? (2, Funny)

Kenja (541830) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930987)

Just think how long it'll take to clean when you sneeze.

Re:really BIG monitors? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7931265)

Or when you enjoy some HD pr0n and forget the kleenex.

WHAT'S REALY WRONG WITH AMERICAN WAY???!!!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7931119)

I'm a Paki living in India. I am finaly geting job that statisfies me! its good if I get microsoft here. I know windows software why not I get the job? Why cant I have a big house beautiful wife, big bed and why shoudl I not able to call pizzahut and order pizza, get 32" television, DVD, VCR, 5.1? Why American get these? Why not I get these? Why should I go work carwash, why American go not to work at carwash and live single while I enjoy spending quality time with my beautiful wife, eat at burgerking, pizzahut and that??? We are equal person than american we should have all that and american could do what we have done. work for living at carwash for a while.

Franks 2000" TV (1)

UrgleHoth (50415) | more than 10 years ago | (#7931194)

Makes me think of Weird Al Yankovic's ode to Frank Zappa, Frank's 2000 inch TV [com-www.com]

Any word on the Audiotron??? (1)

lemonhed (412041) | more than 10 years ago | (#7931383)

Has anyone been by the Turtle Beach booth yet and taken a look at the new Media Tron? There was a post on the AudioTron mailing list regarding the new device, but I havent heard anything since. Post any info you got!

CES is just getting under way? (3, Interesting)

billnapier (33763) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930645)

CES has been underway since the first CES press conferences started on Wednesday! There are a lot of places that have already been coverint CES for 3 days before /. got to it!

I usually laugh when I hear the news report something I heard on /. 3 days prior. Now I'm crying because /. is losing its edge...

Re:CES is just getting under way? (3, Insightful)

tommck (69750) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930784)

Don't worry... After the third dupe of this item, we'll have covered it more than any other news outlet ten times over...

76" Monitors? (1, Funny)

vpscolo (737900) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930661)

Were are going to need some really hi-res pr0n to make best use of that. Hmm HDTV pr0n maybe :) Rus

Re:76" Monitors? (2, Funny)

Metallic Matty (579124) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930699)

Were are going to need some really hi-res pr0n to make best use of that

I have no doubt that this [penny-arcade.com] is a common use for such viewing technologies.

Re:76" Monitors? (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7930868)

I know that when ever I've hosted a circle jerk, one of the major distractions was everyone crowding around the computer monitor.

Now I can just throw down a tarp, and enjoy the event.

Re:76" Monitors? (1)

Orion442 (739483) | more than 10 years ago | (#7931719)

I know that when ever I've hosted a circle jerk

Damn dude! TMI, no fkn wonder you posted that as AC!

Re:76" Monitors? (4, Funny)

hrieke (126185) | more than 10 years ago | (#7931081)

Do you really want to see what these girls look like at HDTV resolutions?
(Wall Street Journal had an excellent article about how broadcastors are having a hard time dealing with the way people look on screen, IE, Not Good. These are the men and women of soap operas, lord help us with porn stars).

I'll pay for the pie... (-1, Troll)

ohzero (525786) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930686)

If someone else throws it at Bill (I'm a wuss).

Plasma is for sucks. DLP is the way to go. (5, Informative)

revscat (35618) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930700)

Plasma displays seem to have gotten all the media attention for some reason, but DLP projectors and displays are superior in just about every measurable way: brightness, weight, resolution, etc. Plus DLP screens are far less of a maintenance nightmare: the only thing you will ever have to replace is the bulb, and that only once every 3 or 4 years. Plasma screens, on the other hand, are not expected to have a total lifetime of much longer than that.

Oh yeah, and vim is better than emacs.

Re:Plasma is for sucks. DLP is the way to go. (1, Informative)

Trolling4Columbine (679367) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930799)

I recently helped my parents purchase a 41" Sony DLP for less than $3000. The parent poster is 100% correct; the picture is outstanding, has a surprisingly good sound system (of course no substitute for a good home theatre system), and the whole thing only weighs 70 lbs!

Just my 2c.

You didn't help your parents that much (2, Informative)

swb (14022) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930924)

You didn't help that much. Sony doesn't make DLPs, and they don't make their signature Grand Wega LCD rear projection sets in 41". Closest is 42". But it is still not a DLP.

Re:You didn't help your parents that much (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7931451)

What's the difference between a LCD rear-projection and a DLP?

Re:You didn't help your parents that much (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7932043)

They are quite different display technologies.

DLP stands for digital light projection. Light is bounced off an array of tiny mirrors. Each tiny mirror flickers between aligned and not aligned to send light to the screen. Brightness is controlled by how long it spends in the aligned position.

LCD stands for liquid crystal display. It relies on a series of polarization filters. Each pixel has material that can be oriented using a voltage. The material rotates the polarization of light passing through it it a way that depends on its orientation. Consequently, its orientation determines how much light passes through the polarization filters.

Re:Plasma is for sucks. DLP is the way to go. (1)

abhisarda (638576) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930826)

plasma screens also emit a lot of heat.
DLP screens are bigger than plasma tv's and cheaper. Therefore they are selling quite well in the nation's stores..
anybody want to elaborate about projector's?

also, looks like trustedreview's webservers must be currently cursing whoever en-trusted them to serve slashdot's appetite ;)

Re:Plasma is for sucks. DLP is the way to go. (2, Insightful)

marcop (205587) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930883)

DLP is NOT a flat panel display. There are some applications that require flat panel displays. If someone wants big and flat (direct view) then they have to go with plasma unless the bigger LCD's are big enough.

Re:DLP has Rainbows (1)

guidryp (702488) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930934)

A friend has a DLP projector. Looks great, but Rainbows are very evident to most people, not the minority you usually here. It is the minority that find them an annoyance or cause of headaches. I have yet to sit down with someone and point out the rainbows and have them tell me they can't see them. For everything else I agree but the tradeoff is rainbows.

Re:DLP has Rainbows (1)

hambonewilkins (739531) | more than 10 years ago | (#7931924)

KYLE Hey Stan, did you see that rainbow this morning? STAN Yeah, it was huge! CARTMAN Eeh, I hate those things. KYLE Nobody hates rainbows! STAN Yeah, what's there to hate about rainbows? CARTMAN Eeh, you know, you'll just be sitting there, minding your own business, and they'll come marching in and crawling up your leg and start biting the inside of your ass, and you'll be all like "Ay! Get out of my ass, you stupid rainbows!" STAN Cartman, what the hell are you talking about? CARTMAN I'm talking about rainbows. I hate those frigging things. KYLE Rainbows are those little arches of color that show up during a rainstorm. CARTMAN Oh, rainbows! Oh yeah; I like those; those are cool.

Re:Plasma is for sucks. DLP is the way to go. (1)

DenOfEarth (162699) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930986)

Man...I just heard the moniker DLP for the first time today in a job interview...needless to say, they use DLP to show visualizations of stuff. I was indifferent, but since when could a vim user be hassled for not looking into something and learning about what it really is, eh? DLP is the way to go!!

;)

Not necessarily (4, Informative)

swb (14022) | more than 10 years ago | (#7931043)

Plus DLP screens are far less of a maintenance nightmare: the only thing you will ever have to replace is the bulb, and that only once every 3 or 4 years. Plasma screens, on the other hand, are not expected to have a total lifetime of much longer than that.

Bahh, you haven't been paying very much attention. Samsung has had a ton of lamping problems with their DLP sets, and rumor has it they are even replacing the bulbs in them with a new design, requiring a retrofit. (Source: AVSForum).

Furthermore, Sony's newest line of LCD rear projection sets, the Grand Wega IIIs, have had their own spate of lamping problems. There have been widespread failures of the lamping systems (which are compact arc lamps), and Sony's still not 100% sure what the issue is. My first GWIII failed after a week, and there are several others on the AVS Forum who have had theirs fixed and still they don't work right.

I bnought the GWIII because the DLPs were rather harsh with SD content, and the image was overall a little too pixelish -- it FELT like a computer driven display, while the GWIII felt a little more film like to my eyes.

As far as long term reliability once you get past the lamping systems and replacing a couple of $200 bulbs in them, nobody REALLY knows. DLP uses micromirrors, and we don't really know how long those will last. LCD panels won't last forever, either.

As for plasmas longevity, we don't really know what that's like in terms of ordinary TV usage. They feel too fragile for my tastes, but we have two at work used for displaying PowerPoint, and despite the marketing people's use of a solid color logo in the same corner of every page for hours on end, I don't notice any evidence of burn in on them, and they're over 2 years old. The AVS Forum plasma posters seemed to indicate that the anti-plasma noise is much overstated, none noticing any evidence of burn in or other problems.

Anyway, there are no perfect technologies. You just accept the tradeoffs you think are worth it, and hope that spending $3k+ on a TV doesn't make you a fool in 4 years.

Re:Not necessarily (3, Insightful)

Qrlx (258924) | more than 10 years ago | (#7931709)

and hope that spending $3k+ on a TV doesn't make you a fool in 4 years.

If you plan is to watch TV for the next four years, then I'd say the chances are pretty high.

Re:Plasma is for sucks. DLP is the way to go. (1)

timeOday (582209) | more than 10 years ago | (#7931065)

Isn't DLP a projection display? How can it possibly rival the clarity of the plasma screens?

Re:Plasma is for sucks. DLP is the way to go. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7931424)

Or the sexy thinness for that matter....

Screw that. LCoS is the true path. (1)

Ayanami Rei (621112) | more than 10 years ago | (#7931096)

LCoS is offering the highest resolutions and even more impressive color contrast (with the exception of direct, not projection, LCD). They cost about 25% more than a DLP set of the same resolutions.

The units are not wall-hang thin, but they are light and space saving, despite being projection units.

Maintenance and care is similar to that of a DLP box.

Re:Plasma is for sucks. DLP is the way to go. (4, Informative)

Golgofrinchian (74415) | more than 10 years ago | (#7931454)

Call me biased because I was a Sony employee for a couple years in the Retail Sales Division... I want to set the record straight a bit,
DLP's micro mirrors have a higer probability of breakdown than plasma. DLP is _not_ made by Sony. They make Plasma and LCD projection. Plasma has a lifespan of around 10,000 hours. After that the gas loses life, kinda like an old neon tube. LCD's can pop pixels. Nothing is as long term as the good old CRT. Problem is to make a large CRT you need a long neck at the back of the screen. This prevents most CRT's to stay around 40" else they cant make it through the door of your house.

Golgofrinch *8^)

CES? COMDEX? (0, Redundant)

TwistedSquare (650445) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930708)

Would it have really been too hard to define CES and COMDEX in the article header?

Re:CES? COMDEX? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7930785)

redundant? This is far from redundant...

I know what COMDEX is but I certainly had never heard it called CES (and I have been on Slashdot forever).

Monitor? (4, Interesting)

ajiva (156759) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930709)

Considering my Monitor (24") is bigger than my TV (21"), I think I value computing more than "entertainment" :)

Re:Monitor? (1)

RowdyReptile (660760) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930929)

My 40" tv dwarfs my 19" monitor. Does that mean I fail the geek test [innergeek.us] ?

Re:Monitor? (5, Funny)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 10 years ago | (#7931079)

"Considering my Monitor (24") is bigger than my TV (21"), I think I value computing more than "entertainment" :)"

Internet porn is not computing, it's entertainment.

Re:Monitor? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7931200)

I don`t even consider HDTV. I`m heading directly to some kind of internet tv, as soon as some new broadcasting protocol (not necessarily interactive at start) gets universal acceptance.

1600x1200 will do for me ATM... 8-D

As a matter of fact, if I can get enough channels on the web at 640x480 (or, heck, even 512x384), sattelite TV will get into *real* trouble in my house...

not quite the largest plasma screen.... (5, Informative)

Kamphor (609888) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930710)


"This 76in plasma screen is the largest in the world." - from TrustedReview's website

here's a link from dell's website selling an NEC 84inch plasma monitor!

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.a spx?sku=A0149525&c=us&l=en&cs=19&category_id=5914& page=external

four 42s != one 84 (5, Informative)

RowdyReptile (660760) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930862)

here's a link from dell's website selling an NEC 84inch plasma monitor!

Dell is marketing it as an 84-inch Plasma Monitor [dell.com] , but it's just "four NEC PX42VP4 Plasma Displays and the required wall mount bundled together". Not the same.

Re:not quite the largest plasma screen.... (1)

CowBovNeal (672450) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930869)

too lazy..
Dell [dell.com]

Samsung is showing a 80" plasma at CES (1)

olsonjj (415343) | more than 10 years ago | (#7931104)

LG was pissed when they found out Samsung was showing a 80" plasma at the show.

COMDEX.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7930714)

is finished...
You heard it hear first on /.

Gadgets, schmadgets.... (5, Funny)

TopShelf (92521) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930720)

Where's the booth girl review?

Re:Gadgets, schmadgets.... (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7930823)

The only booth girl worth caring about...

How can people say BSD [freebsd.org] is dying when it has a mascot [freebsd.org] like this?! Linux [debian.org] needs to get its act together if it's going to compete with the kind of hot chicks [hope-2000.org] and gorgeous babes [hope-2000.org] that BSD [openbsd.org] has to offer!

You just can't take Linux [redhat.com] seriously when its fronted by losers [nylug.org] like these. Would you buy software from them? I don't think so! You Linux [suse.com] groupies need to find some sexy girls like her [hope-2000.org] ! I mean just look at this girl [wigen.net] ! Doesn't she [pipboy2002.mine.nu] excite you? I know this little hottie [pipboy2002.mine.nu] puts me in need of a cold shower! This guy looks like he is about to cream his pants standing next to such a fox [spilth.org] . As you can see, no man can resist this sexy [spilth.org] little minx [spilth.org] . I mean are you telling me you wouldn't like to get your hands on this ass [dis.org] ?!

With sexy chicks [minions.com] like the lovely Ceren [dis.org] you could have people queuing up to buy open source products. Could you really refuse to buy a copy of BSD [netbsd.org] if she [dis.org] told you to? Come on, you must admit she [imagewhore.com] is better than an overweight penguin [tamu.edu] or a gay looking goat [gnu.org] ! Don't you wish you could get one of these [drexel.edu] ? Personally I know I would give my right arm to get this close [dis.org] to such a divine beauty [czarina.org] !

Join the campaign for more cute [pipboy2002.mine.nu] open source babes [pipboy2002.mine.nu] today!

Re:Gadgets, schmadgets.... (0, Offtopic)

justMichael (606509) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930938)

Warning: link is definately Not Safe for Work

Just cruise down the strip a little...

Adult Video News [avn.com] does their show at the same time ;-)

Re:Gadgets, schmadgets.... (2, Informative)

Kenja (541830) | more than 10 years ago | (#7931005)

Across the street from Comdex at Adultdex [adultdex.com] . I only wish I was kidding.

Re:Gadgets, schmadgets.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7931015)

IGN insiders get all the pictures [ign.com] needed.

Re:Gadgets, schmadgets.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7931112)

Who needs booth girls?! Here on Slashdot we have Eugenia [osnews.com] to drool over!

Virtual keyboard for PDAs -Ibiz Tech (1, Troll)

jarich (733129) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930725)

This is one I've been looking at lately... http://www.ibizpda.com It projects the keyboard onto the desk and you just type... it detects your fingers and registers the keystrokes. I have heard that it's more of a hunt and peck than real typing, but PDAs, who cares? They are at CES and have nominated for best of show. Also, it makes a hot penny stock! ;) http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/chart.jsp?symbol=I BZT

The ExtremeTech article (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7930726)

has a rather interesting sidebar on popular software products.

Top Sellers: Linux

1. Windows XP Professional
2. Windows XP Home (Full)
3. Windows 2000 Pro (Full Product)
4. Windows 98 SE (Full Product)
5. Windows XP Home (Upgrade)

Re:The ExtremeTech article (1)

bfree (113420) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930775)

And if you click on the link for more it takes you to the list of "Windows (Family) Products! Very odd and wrong!

Re:The ExtremeTech article (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7931215)

I don't find it odd. As more and more customers find out that Linux and the gang have been passing around SCO code as if it belonged to them, corporate clients feel betrayed and disgusted at such childish behavior.

Plus, if you read the latest independent research, deploying a Linux based business network is more expensive than a similar Windows environment.

Until Linux vendors come up with the equivalent of Microsoft Small Business Server (Web+Mail+Collaboration+Fax+FileStorage+Print) in a single box, and easy-to-use Linux desktop clients for the office workers, the public will gladly pay $200 per license that Microsoft charges. After all, RedHat is a bit more expensive for similar layouts.

/.ed - page 1 from trusted review (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7930763)

It seems slashdotted, so here is page 1 from the TrustedReviews site.

With the New Year celebrations barely over, the technology industry has descended on Las Vegas for the Consumer Electronics Show. With convergence being more than just the buzz word it's been in previous years, this is going to be a very interesting show indeed.
Although the show doesn't officially start until the 8th of January, there were a few key press announcements and briefings held on the 7th of January.
First up was a press briefing from LG that was held at the rather unsociable hour of 8am. This was hardly ideal for those of us who had flown in from London the night before, but several cups of coffee took care of my jet lag.
LG would definitely have you believe that size matters. It doesn't seem that long ago that LG flew me out to Monte Carlo to see its 60in plasma display, which was the world's largest plasma screen at the time. Well, LG hasn't sat back on its laurels and again holds the title for largest plasma screen with a 76in display. The size of this screen is quite simply staggering and no doubt the price will be equally staggering. That said, anyone who has a living room large enough to accommodate a 76in screen should be able to afford one.
The native resolution is also pretty impressive for a plasma at 1,920 x 1,080, so it could be used as a corporate presentation device if your company has the budget. And despite its mammoth viewable area it sports a depth of only 83mm.

This 76in plasma screen is the largest in the world.

LG hasn't put all its eggs in the plasma basket though and has a whole array of new LCD HDTVs as well. Again bigger is better and the LCD range is topped by a new 55in model sporting a 176-degree viewing angle. Native resolution is 1,920 x 1,080 and the contrast ratio is 500:1. There are also new 42, 37 and 30in models, all of which include integrated digital receivers. Unfortunately, we won't be able to make much use of the HDTV capability in Europe, but hopefully this will change eventually.

This new 42in LCD is one step down from the flagship 55in model.

Of course large digital screens aren't much good without a source and LG also has a few new Digital Video Recorders. The LGDVDR313 is a multi-format DVD recorder while the LGHDR414 is a multi-format DVD recorder with the added bonus of an 80GB hard disk. DVD recorders with integrated hard disks seem to be part of every manufacturer's product line up right now and it's not difficult to see why. With an HDD and DVD recorder setup, you can record everything to the hard disk and then edit and transfer the video you want to keep to DVD.

Record to hard disk, then transfer what you want to keep to DVD.

Re:/.ed - page 1 from trusted review (1)

olsonjj (415343) | more than 10 years ago | (#7931131)

I posted this above, but I will post again. LG was mighty pissed off when they found out SamSung had come with their 80" plasma. There is a lot of press here in Vegas about LG's 76" promoting it as the "largest"...

Yes, this is a troll and flamebait. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7931310)

Of course, if you install Mandrake 9.2 on the computer attached to your LG display, it won't work any more -- just like their messed up CD-ROM drives.

I'm so TORN (3, Interesting)

subjectstorm (708637) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930815)

Ninja Gaiden was one of my favorite nintendo games of all time growing up. i made a video where i set its now famous opening scene to a soundtrack of "Welcome to the Jungle" by GnR.

I don't know for sure, but i imagine that NG will only be available on the X2. Please, someone, tell me i'm wrong about that. Tom's review of Microsoft's presentation on the future of console gaming (it's chilling, frankly) leaves me with sweaty palms and a dry mouth. EVERYTHING hosted on MSN? Passport is a big enough pain in the ass already.

I've considered buying an X-Box already for titles like Halo and for the kickassness that is X-Box Live . . . but i resist, because it's like making a deal with the devil. I am tempted to sell out, i really am. I mean, have you SEEN how many crap games are flooding the market right now for PS2? I'm horrified every time i enter Wal-Mart (of course i would be anyway, but that's beside the point).

Agh. Ninja Gaiden . . . Microsoft . . .

Moments like these are why god invented beer.

Re:I'm so TORN (2, Interesting)

glenrm (640773) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930907)

You are wrong Ninja Gaiden is coming out for the X-Box in the this month or next...

Answering my own question (1)

subjectstorm (708637) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930960)

Yes, it is coming out for X-Box, which i don't have. No, it isn't coming out for PS2 or for GameCube, both of which i do have.

the point is that i don't want to buy an x-box, but NG might make it too sweet to resist.

Sorry if i made that unclear.

Re:Answering my own question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7931098)

> No, it isn't coming out for PS2 or for GameCube, both of which i do have. The point is that i don't want to buy an x-box, but NG might make it too sweet to resist.

I got both a Gamecube and a Xbox, the last one being for Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball. If THAT wasn't reason enough to get a Xbox, I don't know what is. ;-)

Re:I'm so TORN (1)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 10 years ago | (#7931223)

"but i resist, because it's like making a deal with the devil. I am tempted to sell out, i really am."

Selling out? Well, true, purchasing the XBOX will result in the revocation of your cool status here on Slashdot.

Re:I'm so TORN (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7931974)

Have you played any XBox games? Cause if so, you'd know that we could care less about being considered "cool" by a bunch of sweaty pear-shaped nerds.

Bill G and Jay L (1, Interesting)

r_j_prahad (309298) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930838)

On last night's Screensavers [techtv.com] , I think I heard Leo LaPorte say something about how Jay Leno was unmercifully ribbing Bill Gates throughout the keynote speech. I'd love to see a video clip or even a transcript of that. Any links?

Re:Bill G and Jay L (1)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 10 years ago | (#7931275)

" I think I heard Leo LaPorte say something about how Jay Leno was unmercifully ribbing Bill Gates throughout the keynote speech. I'd love to see a video clip or even a transcript of that. Any links?"

This is the first time I've seen documented proof of anybody wanting to watch Jay Leno.

Re:Bill G and Jay L (1)

Chemical (49694) | more than 10 years ago | (#7932001)

"You know it's so fashsionable to take a shot a Jay Leno. The fact is, he's out there every night with new material, and he's charming!"

Let's not forget the Phantom... (5, Interesting)

Cutriss (262920) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930847)

From GamesIndustry.biz [gamesindustry.biz] :

Infinium Labs' proposed console, the Phantom, has made a showing at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas as announced by the company earlier this week, but only in the form of a box which was not switched on.

The Florida-based start-up showed off a Phantom console on the Windows Embedded Device showcase stand at the event, but although the system sported a full array of connectors on the backplate, it was not powered up or demonstrated in any way.

In terms of physical design, the box is almost exactly the same as the previously seen concept art and renders, and its size belies the standard PC components from which it is built.

However, the fact that Infinium Labs did not properly demonstrate the console working is likely to add fuel to speculation that the entire project is some form of elaborate hoax or scam - even though this seems increasingly unlikely.

The presence of the Phantom on the Windows Embedded Device stand, if nothing else, proves that if Infinium Labs is a hoax, it is a hoax which has taken in Microsoft along with several other key companies in the industry.

Hoax or not, however, such a lacklustre and content free unveiling for the machine on its first public outing is unlikely to boost confidence in the device, which promises a "new way to deliver content" for the games industry, ever actually making it to the market.

infinium labs is a huge bunch of spamming assholes (4, Informative)

Indy1 (99447) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930901)

proof you say ?

proof #1 [google.com]

and proof #2, an email i recieved from their former hosting service who terminated the assholes for spamming.

Dear postmaster.

ASP-ONE corrected the issue of excessive spamming from one of our clients. Infinium labs were a client of ours who abused their account by spamming through our mail servers. We corrected this issue by terminating their account and permanently deleting them from our exchange servers.

We like to request that you remove us from your blacklist so that our good standing clients can deliver their mails to your mail server.

We apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused you, and look forward to a favorable and a speedy response from you.

With regards,

Jae Sim

ASP-ONE

System Administrator

-

Re:Let's not forget the Phantom... (1)

poot_rootbeer (188613) | more than 10 years ago | (#7931669)

The presence of the Phantom on the Windows Embedded Device stand, if nothing else, proves that if Infinium Labs is a hoax, it is a hoax which has taken in Microsoft along with several other key companies in the industry.

Maybe it's not a hoax. Maybe it's just a disaster.

Can I get tickets? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7930965)

I hear that Billy G. is gonna be there. That would be so kewl!

More relevant coverage, please. (5, Funny)

Guano_Jim (157555) | more than 10 years ago | (#7930980)

The question that remains to be asked above all these hardware-related questions:

How many girls in skimpy outfits [e3girls.com] are hawking products?

Inquiring slashdotters want to know!

Anandtech has FAILED IT (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7930989)

OMG we killed Anandtech!

New Standard (1)

henryhbk (645948) | more than 10 years ago | (#7931221)

From the ExtremeTech article "emerging connectivity standards like USB..." How is this emerging? It's been a standard for years (yeah, 2.0 is newer, but still years old)... This does seem kind of silly.

AMD/Intel are eliminating buffer overflow code exe (2, Interesting)

geekee (591277) | more than 10 years ago | (#7931244)

See here [com.com] for something likely out of CES about the AMD/Intel efforts to stop buffer overflow code from being executed.

Re:AMD/Intel are eliminating buffer overflow code (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7931353)

AMD64 arches already have a PAE NX bit option, it's just not being _used_ by Windows until XPSP2 comes out.

It should be noted that most non-x86 ISA's already have had NX bits for ages, and that OS's such as OpenBSD or even linux with PaX patches take advantage of this on such architectures already (in addition to providing workarounds for x86 and ppc arches are are less on the ball).

Porn Expo? (2, Funny)

barureddy (314276) | more than 10 years ago | (#7931253)

Will someone please elaborate? I was channel surfing past CNN saw that there is a porn expo going next door. Is that really true. If so that is truely a place the be for a geek.

Re:Porn Expo? (1)

erasmus_ (119185) | more than 10 years ago | (#7931997)

As referenced by another post, that appears to be Adultdex [adultdex.com] . Since I'm at work, I'm not about to verify whether that link is correct though :-)

Where can I get good video coverage of CES (1)

aardwolf204 (630780) | more than 10 years ago | (#7931374)

I've been catching up on CES by streaming video at news.com.com although it is very little. I would like to know what other sources for video coverage other slashdotters have found.

/me remembers back in the day when CNET had a good broadband video coverage section

Is this 1080p or 1080i? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7931534)

It says it is 1080 by 1920. It looks like it could be 1080p, but I couldn't find the tech details. Anyone know?

I want a 1080p display, but the upcoming Samsung is the only one I've seen that is.

Like to see that large plasma work at 8000+ feet (1)

FerretFrottage (714136) | more than 10 years ago | (#7931649)

(1st off 2,430+ meters for the rest of you) I've heard of bad things happening to plasma sets in high altitudes (http://www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/plasmatv/plasm atv-altitude.html) What I don't quite understand is that my 60" Sony LCD set has a high altidue setting but it gives no reason why.

DISCover (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7931745)

"In addition, the DISCover guys argued that the PC beats all consoles when it comes to titles and where else can you play Halo and GTA: Vice City on the same system."

Uhm. That would be Xbox.

However, I don't see Panzer Dragoon Orta, Virtua Fighter 4 or Zelda The Wind Waker running on PCs.

Coolest announcement at CES: Fast cellular data (4, Informative)

Magnus Pym (237274) | more than 10 years ago | (#7931897)

Verizon [verizonwireless.com] is launching [vzw.com] 1xEV-DO nationwide. This is a cellular (fully mobile) data technology that delivers 300-500 kbps average downstream thoughput, and 30-70kbps upstream. Peak rates are 2.4Mbps downstream and 153.6 Kbps upstream. The service is already operational in San Diego and Washington D.C and is marketed as Broadband Access [verizonwireless.com] .

Think Richochet on steroids. The US has caught up with and surpassed Europe on wireless with this one.

I tried to submit this story yesterday thinking this will of high interest to the slashot audience, but it was rejected. Oh well.

Magnus.
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