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Vancouver PHP Conference: Cheaper And Better

timothy posted more than 10 years ago | from the and-canadian dept.

PHP 21

burnitall writes "The Vancouver PHP User's Group is hosting the ultimate deal in cons next Thursday and Friday (Jan 22 & 23) in Vancouver BC CA - registration is only $150 CDN vs thousands at more commercial events. This is a non-profit con bringing together some of the biggest names in PHP, including Rasmus Lerdorf ( PHP inventor ) and Sterling Hughes (PHP core developer) amongst others. The conference is put on by volunteers and is still seeking sponsorship ..."

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fp (-1, Offtopic)

stedd007 (675121) | more than 10 years ago | (#7959129)


Re:fp (0, Offtopic)

sycotic (26352) | more than 10 years ago | (#7959205)

This is the second time you have done this..

Don't you have anything better to do, son?

I mean, no-one even gets to see it due to moderation..

How to raise money (5, Funny)

eric.t.f.bat (102290) | more than 10 years ago | (#7959336)

Here's one way to raise some cash for this: get the guy(s) who invented PHP to sit on a chair, then sell waterlogged sponges to all the people who've ever used PHP. As they throw the sponges, let them shout things like "pick a naming standard and stick to it, you bastards!", or "read the fsking Dragon Book before you inflict your high-school-level language design skills on the rest of the world!". You'd raise a mint.

Right. Better get back to debugging my PHP...

Re:How to raise money (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7965351)

"pick a naming standard and stick to it, you bastards!"

Come on, it's not that bad. You've got:
1. Borrowed functions:
* UNIX commands (stat, chmod, etc), named verbatim
* Borrowed C functions (strstr, fopen, etc)
* Functions based on those (unlink, fsockopen, etc)

2. Native functions:
* Words separated by underscores, with the lib name occurring first: array_push, preg_replace, etc.

3. Strong functions
Things that make no sense, analogous to the verb "be" in English. This is rare.

Re:How to raise money (1)

burnitall (101330) | more than 10 years ago | (#7975555)

erm, well in spots yes it is actually.

my favorite function of all time in php is nl2br, ONCE I FOUND IT.

what an awful name, it's like perl or something. =)

Re:How to raise money (1)

SerialHistorian (565638) | more than 10 years ago | (#7992874)

Actually, I like PHP better than 'designed' languages like Java or C#. It's simple, it's easy to find functions, and you can do almost anything youd need to by stringing the functions together or by installing a library and using the then-built-in functions (Instead of having to find one of three hundred million methods IN THE MAIN MODULES TREE on how to draw a graph ... *cough* perl *cough* java *cough, hack*...

How much? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7959416)

Wait a second. $150 Canadian -- that's like twenty bucks, right?

Re:How much? (3, Informative)

yo303 (558777) | more than 10 years ago | (#7960382)

Wait a second. $150 Canadian -- that's like twenty bucks, right?

That would be funny, if the present U.S. financial mismanagement and the resulting weak U.S dollar hadn't been driving the Canadian dollar to new heights. [] Eighty cents and climbing. Maybe it will surpass the US$ again, as it did in the seventies.

The Loonie is so strong now, that it's negatively affecting our trade with the U.S. It's so strong that something has to be done quickly. []

Having said all that, Vancouver is a great place to hold a conference.


Re:How much? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7960439)

Yeah, the hookers are A+!

Re:How much? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7960602)

And the strippers!!! AAA+++

You get what you pay for (1)

TekZen (611640) | more than 10 years ago | (#7965295)

Yeah, it is a great price for an IT conference, but travel costs, not conference price (and definitely not content) are why I would go to Vancouver over Amsterdam [] .

Besides, aren't conferences just a lame alternative for those of us who weren't invited to go camping []

-TekZen []

Re:You get what you pay for (1)

jmccay (70985) | more than 10 years ago | (#7968885)

Although, in January, you might want to bring a lot of warm cloths. It's cold in New Hampshire right now, and our weather coming from Canada. That's probably why it's so cheap. Somebody up there in the Vancouver city government was thinking:
"How can we bring more people to the frozen north in January?"

A lightbulb appears fully lit.
We'll put on an ultra-cheap tech confrence and bring hords of geeks up here

Re:You get what you pay for (1)

ahodgson (74077) | more than 10 years ago | (#7975776)

No offense, but Vancouver has about as much in common with the Ontario and Quebec to the north of you as you have with Seattle.

ie. we don't actually get winter. Although it did snow a little last week.

It does rain a lot though. Like right now. Certainly not the best time to come here, but it isn't cold.

Re:You get what you pay for (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7981138)

I think you should be offended. Furthermore, I think that you should insult the intelligence of the poster.

Clearly he/she/it is a reactionary jackass with no more knowledge of North American geography than my dog (let alone world geography) .

I suspect your comparison with Seattle resulted in yet another blank stare at the screen for him/her/it as well.

I wouldn't even care so much that he/she/it doesn't know what Canada's weather is like, but for fuck's sake, if you are that ignorant, you should keep your fucking mouth shut. On top of that, you most certainly shouldn't operate a computer.

Deep breaths.

Re:You get what you pay for (0)

rrt0 (712479) | more than 10 years ago | (#7988339)

I am 1 block from the pacific ocean, it is currently 10 degree celcius ( about 50 Fahrenheit for you yanks ) and not a cloud in the sky.

Re:You get what you pay for (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7982909)

Depending on where you are on the map, you might also be interested in Montreal's PHP conference (2nd edition) which will take place in March.

PHP? Isn't that Vancouver's Motto? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7965344)

Paradise of Heroin and Prostitutes

fix for 1st url (1)

millette (56354) | more than 10 years ago | (#7966513)

The actual url is: []

Timothy, can you fix it?

proposing some sponsorship (1)

axxackall (579006) | more than 10 years ago | (#7973866)

The conference is put on by volunteers and is still seeking sponsorship

They should call Zope corporation. I guess if they will promise to present at the conference the migration way from PHP to Zope then Zope Corp may pay something for it! And they can do it simultaniously with other web tech vendors: Microsoft (.Net), Sun (EJB).

How is it worth even $150? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7981171)

Let me get this straight. They want me to pay $150 to attend a conference on an Open Source tool with freely available documentation and tutorials and a very active user community?

What could they possibly present to me that would be worth $150?

And where exactly are these PHP conferences that cost thousands to attend? That's just a stupid statement.

*BSD is dying (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8005182)

It is official; Netcraft now confirms: *BSD is dying

One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

You don't need to be a Kreskin [] to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.

Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

Fact: *BSD is dying

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