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TruSonic Uses MP3.com Catalog As Muzak

simoniker posted more than 10 years ago | from the cha-cha-cha dept.

Music 230

Wacky_Wookie writes "Well, it looks like all the artists who put their songs up on MP3.com are about to break into a whole new market - elevators! The Register is reporting that Vivendi, who had control over MP3.com's archive of over 1.5 million songs even after the site's sale to CNET, has sold rebroadcasting rights to TruSonic.com, who sell them as piped music to hotels, restaurants and other businesses, passing on royalties along the way. I guess this is Vivendi's way of 'lifting' artists into new markets." Unfortunately, according to the TruSonic site FAQ, the site "does not support any type of artist page that is accessible by the public", and, according to another independent page, "any song that any artist [uploaded to MP3.com since a certain date?] got enrolled into TruSonic unless the artist 'opted out'."

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I WANT TO PUT MY PEE PEE IN YOUR POO POO HOLE (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979354)

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What is it all about . . . (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979570)

Muzak. What is it all about. . . is it good or is it whack?

Well... (1)

Hangin10 (704729) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979367)

30 years from now it will *still* just be
elevator music...

BEND OVER, OSS BITCHES (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979865)

Bill Gates wants your anus, and he wants it NOW!!!

I, for one (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979368)

I, for one, welcome our new Muzak overlords.

Re:I, for one (-1)

users.pl (689022) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979415)

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Re:I, for one (-1, Redundant)

tr0llx0r (730590) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979434)

You, s1r 4r3 a g3n1us. I b0w b3f0re y0ur tr0llag3. Try th4t sh1t 0ut at osnews.

Muzak is a trademark! (2, Informative)

akejay (173331) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979371)

They are using the mp3.com catalog as background music.

Re:Muzak is a trademark! (1)

Dilbert_ (17488) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979431)

Who owns it then? Isn't this similar to Kodak or Xerox, where a trademark has lost its protected status because it has become a word in 'common usage'?

Re:Muzak is a trademark! (4, Informative)

akejay (173331) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979692)

per www.muzak.com, "Muzak(R) is a registered trademark of Muzak LLC."

Re:Muzak is a trademark! (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979780)

Isn't this similar to Kodak or Xerox, where a trademark has lost its protected status because it has become a word in 'common usage'?

Kodak? Does anyone really use that as a generic word?

Neither of those words (or "Muzak") has officially lost protected status. See this page [wikipedia.org] for details.

1108 Thugz (5, Funny)

ximenes (10) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979373)

I hope that I can hear the 1108 Thugz on an elevator soon. Preferably Fast Food Fuckin', but I'm not picky.

Re:1108 Thugz (1)

Larry David (738420) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979715)

There was a great band on MP3.com called Skasmapolitan, a kinda Sublime/No Doubt sort of thing with a chick singer.

And all their songs were so funny, like 'Slut Named Rachel'. Jesus, I'd bust a nut if I heard that in an elevator. Weird, you never hear ska music as musak. Wonder why.. it'd be so great to bop your head to *g*

and The Shizit (1)

Cranky_92109 (414726) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979772)

Who wouldn't want to ride up to their office or hotel floor while listening to the soothing sounds of The Shizit's 'Gak Bitch'?

Re:1108 Thugz (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979902)

20 years ago, who would have figured that DEVO music would be selling floor mops.

Just you wait..

very interesting stuff (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979374)

by "interesting" i mean gay.

by "gay" i mean you probably like to have sex with other guys.

w00t! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979414)

j00 rulx0r, an0n tr011.

4rgh! 2 m1nut3 p05t1ng d3lay!

ATTENTION FAGGOT MODERATORS (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979737)

My post was not overrated. It was +ELEVENTY FUCKING BAZILLION Informative!

Get your shit straight before you moderate, fucko.

IF I EVER MEET YOU, I WILL KICK YOUR ASS!!!!

I get it! (-1, Offtopic)

SirChris (676927) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979378)

Anonymous Coward isn't a user! Its someone posting anonymously!!

Re:I get it! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979447)

And that makes you a named coward.

Re:I get it! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979470)

Anonymous Coward isn't a user! Its someone posting anonymously!!
Gee.. Maybe you should have posted your revelation Anonymously?

Wish I was on the 1st floor (2, Insightful)

grennis (344262) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979384)

Brings new meaning to the term "going down..." :(

Seriously, isn't elevator music bad enough already? Ugh, I think I will have to quit my job and find one on the 1st floor :(

Re:Wish I was on the 1st floor (0)

pooman (735781) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979932)

Or, you could take the stairs. :D

Crying shame (5, Insightful)

Dark Paladin (116525) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979386)

That actually depresses me a bit, as I had bought some music off of mp3.com when it was around (believe it or not: the Megatokyo soundtrack. Yeah, I'm a geek.).

It was one of the few places where an independant artist could try and sell their wares without RIAA influence.

Now, it seems that Vivendi is doing everything they can to kill it off and make sure that the independant artists have no options to be heard by the public except through "established channels" - aka, through the Music Cartel.

Stupid. (0, Offtopic)

tempshill (413165) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979412)

Stupid. Waah.

Re:Crying shame (4, Insightful)

gnu-generation-one (717590) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979732)

"That actually depresses me a bit, as I had bought some music off of mp3.com when it was around"

Great place to buy music.

You already know it's good music, because all the songs are available to download. When you buy the CD (at a third of the price they're sold in the high-street), you even get MP3 versions of the songs on the data directory. No more CDEXing, just copy the MP3 files in seconds, and the tags are all accurate and ready to put on your Zen.

Then if the CD gets damaged (all CDs get damaged), you already have a backup copy, legally. And if someone asks you what you're listening to, you can send them a link to download the song from the website. Chatting on IRC, "listen to this", post a link. Or email a link.

Discover new music. Amazing what you find when you only have to spend 2 minutes of download time to sample a new band, rather than $20 and a trip to the shops. Find music in the charts there. See which music your bands like, from links in their homepages...

Yes, it's crap that they deleted MP3.com. And you just know, that as long as we live, nobody else will figure out that that's how a music shop should be run...

Meh (5, Insightful)

SargeZT (609463) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979395)

As good of an idea as this is, the system should have been made opt-in instead of opt-out. Some people might not mind being heard on the web, but being heard through other mediums may not be in their plans. And, also, there is no way for an independent artist to have been heard by say, a record label, and contact the person, as there is no interface. Good idea, bad implementation.

Re:Meh (3, Insightful)

Misch (158807) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979621)

Maybe the artists should have considered RTFA'ing before signing? (In this case, the A is agreement/contract).

Re:Meh (5, Insightful)

The Other Nate (137833) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979790)

The 'A' grew and morphed extensively since the time that I 'signed' it. (many emails informing me, yet no recourse for declining the service once they had a copy of my songs.)

Oh wait! I should have aimed my retained legal department at them, and used my massive financial assets to bring the bastards to their knees.

I don't have a large stake in this (i.e. day job and only a handful of songs), but the artists who do this for a living have indeed been screwed.

Won't be long now... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979400)

Won't be long now till some artists sues them for lost royalties. It just sucked when they took the archive down, but now their trying to sell it like they own it?

Wow. CDDB all over again!

Re:Won't be long now... (1)

cscx (541332) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979857)

I'm assuming there was a clause in the sign-up agreement for MP3.com where you sold your soul to them.

Lesson: Read documentation!

Re:Won't be long now... (1)

Darth23 (720385) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979929)

I think that was a late ammendment to the DMCA.

Re:Won't be long now... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979940)

Maybe they took a (web) page from banks and ISPs where they say that they can redefine the contact at will and place the new version on an obscure web page?

mp3.com stuff as muzak? (1)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979408)

Yes, I can just see that, trance/techno, house, gangsta rap or hard rock in shopping malls.

Re:mp3.com stuff as muzak? (1)

cb8100 (682693) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979428)

Beats John Tesh, Yanni, Michael Bolton and Kenny G., or as Dave Attel refers to them: "The Four Horsemen of Queer."

muzak (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979419)

what is it all about? is it good.. or is it whack?

Re:muzak (-1)

users.pl (689022) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979443)

This troll post template. What is it all about... is it good, or is it whack?

Re:muzak (1)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979498)

What you are watching is the latest Slashdot meme infecting more and more hollow teenage brains.

Re:muzak (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979787)

this shit dates back to 1993

Re:muzak (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979880)

I, for one, welcome our new whack overlords.

Does this mean (5, Funny)

Hangin10 (704729) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979432)

that we can be sued for using an elevator?

Re:Does this mean (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979980)

Only if you share your elevator music with other people.

cool biz (4, Informative)

tedtimmons (97599) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979445)

Trusonic is pretty cool. They are an offshoot of MP3.com (before MP3 died and the domain name was sold to cnet) called "Retail Music Services". They used to use small, rugged PCs with a couple of audio output jacks, running Linux. They probably have something better now, but it was cool to see Linux boxes at the back of businesses.

-ted

Re:cool biz (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979616)

"Trusonic is pretty cool."

using peoples' music without their permission does not make them cool.

As if elevator music isn't bad enough (1)

Kris_J (10111) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979452)

I know the half-dozen craptacular tracks I uploaded to MP3.com back in the day. At the very least, the BPM is WAY too high for use as elevator music. Wouldn't want to the be person who has to review all the music to determine if it's appropriate or not.

Re:As if elevator music isn't bad enough (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979517)

Its just the shot for the alternative track they keep in case the cable breaks. If that happens they want to make sure you boogie down.

Corporate greed (5, Interesting)

lukior (727393) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979462)

I'm sure the artists did not envision this for there music when it was uploaded to mp3.com. This is certainly not going to increase sales of an artists music. Who while sitting in the elevator says, "I wonder who that is." If people were curious they wouldn't have the ability to ask. According to the article the artists are complaining about royalties. It looks like a way for the corporations to circumvent licensing agreements and make money off of content they shouldn't own.

Re:Corporate greed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979875)

Well...If the band was web savvy enough to put their songs on MP3.com they probably have a website. And good artist websites have, get this, lyrics. So people who are really curious can say, type a line or two that they remember and find the artist. This isn't a bad thing. As long as the artists are getting royalties, its all cool. Even if it wasn't what they expected it is exposure.

--Greg

Re:Corporate greed (1)

fishbowl (7759) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979909)


"I'm sure the artists did not envision this for there music when it was uploaded to mp3.com."

Whether they envisioned it or not is fully beside the point -- they surrendered distribution rights, wilfully and knowingly and legally.

If they wanted to avoid these consequences, they should not have taken the actions that led directly to them.

Re:Corporate greed (1)

hplasm (576983) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979968)

So if all the artists opt out, the elevators are going to be very quiet...

Original? (4, Interesting)

tepples (727027) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979471)

From the article:

Please note, not only are you responsible for obtaining all necessary permissions, licenses and consents prior to submitting any songs, you may be held liable for any and all costs and expenses (including legal fees) incurred by TruSonic as a result of your unauthorized use of copyrighted materials.

Subconscious copying of a copyrighted work into a new work is actionable infringement. Bright Tunes Music v. Harrisongs Music, 420 F. Supp. 177 (S.D.N.Y. 1976) [columbia.edu] . Given this precedent, what steps can a recording artist (call him "George") who writes his own songs take (a) to avoid subconsciously copying copyrighted songs, or (b) to minimize potential damages to George should another copyright holder discover that George had subconsciously misappropriated his copyrighted song?

Re:Original? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979574)

Earplugs?

Re:Original? (2, Insightful)

pla (258480) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979739)

or (b) to minimize potential damages to George should another copyright holder discover that George had subconsciously misappropriated his copyrighted song?

Simple - George just has to "limit" himself to using short sequences of notes already found in works prior to the modern copyright hell.

I use "limit" in quotes because I strongly suspect that, if George looks hard enough, he can phrase just about anything he composes into some combination of notes from public domain works. BoyBand2004 might still choose to sue George if George's new song sounds like BoyBand2004's new song... But, if George can prove that every sufficiently-long (8 notes should do, based on what I've read of cases such as these, though I do not claim to have a degree in law) section of his song comes from known PD works, BoyBand2004 wouldn't really have much of a case (since, by the same precedent you cite, they arguably copied the earlier works subconsciously).


I've actually considered setting up a web site to catalog exactly such sequences for aspiring indie musicians to protect themselves with. Perhaps this makes a good chance to see if anyone wants such a website... Anyone? Good idea, bad idea, useless? Suggestions for defining "sameness" (ie, does a note sequence need to follow the exact original, or would a series of halfstep-intervals suffice? And how to best deal with chords?).

Re:Original? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979862)

good idea. Just do it man. The real goodness will come out of it when it's done. Otherwise, us /.'s will be skeptical due to too much vaporware.

If you see the need for it, do it and help the community out.

you know, frankly (5, Insightful)

ch-chuck (9622) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979476)

I have *never* heard music played in an actual elevator. In restaurants, hospital lobbies, stores, lots of public places, but can't ever recall it in an elevator, and I've been in many that were packed with sleepy commuters going in to the office.

Re:you know, frankly (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979579)

Clearly you haven't watched enough John Landis movies.

Re:you know, frankly (0)

Neurotoxic666 (679255) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979610)

Then elevators should sue restaurants, stores and hospital lobbies for copyright infringement.

Seriously, you are right though. Elevator music now refers to any bad music playing in public places. And elevators don't play music no more. The only sound you hear in an elevator is people coughing, trying to find out who let that smelly fart out.

Re:you know, frankly (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979763)

Clearly the sleepy communters are in need of the heavy metal or techno garage band hit of the week, first thing in the morning. That would wake them up--improve productivity and everything!

Re:you know, frankly (4, Interesting)

fishbowl (7759) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979891)

The term "elevator music" didn't have anything to do with the music being played in elevators -- it refers to musical characteristics that are supposed to elevate your *mood*. Dictionary etymology notwithstanding -- I *know* the term had widespread usage before 1979 (where Merriam-Webster places it without a cite.) It wouldn't really surprise me if there was elevator music before there were elevators or even recorded music, but I'll be a while checking music history sources.

Re:you know, frankly (1)

Myopic (18616) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979928)

well let's take a polling, then. i know i've heard music in lots of elevators. who else?

Shady Dealings (4, Interesting)

NeoMoose (626691) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979482)

Pieces of shit didn't ever inform me that I had to opt-out of this. I had a catalog of over 40 tunes on MP3.com. Now without even informing me about this I am looking at having my stuff licensed out as elevator music. Fuck that.

I can't believe I had to opt-out of something that they didn't even begin to tell me that this was happening in the first place. I'm not really surprised. Just angry. MP3.com's management has always been a pain in the ass. /me begins firing off angry emails.

Re:Shady Dealings (1)

Basehart (633304) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979598)

Sorry about your predicament, but music is just product to many people, especially those involved in reselling music.

Apart from Apple, of course ;-)

Re:Shady Dealings (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979813)

music is just product to many people...Apart from Apple, of course ;-)

That's right. To Apple, music is iProduct!

Re:Shady Dealings (1)

Feyr (449684) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979861)

it's it... ironic.

when they "steal" music like this, it's a product
when you "steal" music, it's a service

Crappy music (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979686)

I hope they dont play any of your shit. I listened to several of your "catalog of tunes" and they all sucked ass.

Im glad your firing off those angry geek emails so I dont get stuck listening to this filth anywhere.

Re:Shady Dealings (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979705)

What did you expect? Did you not read the fine print when you were in a mad rush to share your musical genius with the world and brag to your friends about being part of the mp3.com revolution?

The mp3.com legalese was extremely slimy and any legally clued-in musicians that I know took it upon themselves to set up their own website and sharing mechanisms. (that also, BTW, didn't subject their fans to torrents of spam like mp3.com did)

Re:Shady Dealings (2, Insightful)

DingoBueno (461129) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979777)

(Not trying to preach to the choir, just thinking aloud...) Now you can say you've experienced first-hand what professional musicians signed to major labels deal with on a daily basis. Your art gets sold off without your permission or compensation, and you don't even get to provide some input as to what pieces get released. It really is an amazing industry.

Paid? (1)

Lord_Dweomer (648696) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979530)

Now, granted I didn't RTFA (surprise surprise) but I know that when MP3.com was still up and running, they had a service where members could be compensated directly by people buying their music. Will the artists be compensated in any way whatsoever for this? Or is this just another example of a label screwing the artists over?

Re:Paid? (1)

Cosmic_Hippo (739370) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979697)

The artists are apparently being paid royalties for the songs based on number of plays but I doubt the money will be anything worthwile. From a link in the article

Playlist preference and selection is based on our clients' needs and discretion. Royalties are calculated based on the number of times your song(s) are included in one or more playlists. As TruSonic grows the business, the royalty fund may be re-evaluated and any fair and necessary adjustments will be made.

Fair and necessary. Right.

Your rights online? (2, Insightful)

Loadmaster (720754) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979573)

What rights? I just had my songs sold for muzak because I didn't opt out. Let's go further, forget rights, how about a little decency and ask? You'd think, since the artsists made that site what it is, they'd actually give us a little respect. I guess not when you get lots of money for screwing some person you'll never see.

Re:Your rights online? (2, Informative)

Aardpig (622459) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979668)

I just had my songs sold for muzak because I didn't opt out.

According to their FAQ, you can opt out at any point. If you don't like your music being sold as muzak, opt out right now. It's not like they've just shagged your mum, is it?

Black Monday (3, Interesting)

blackmonday (607916) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979611)



My band [blackmonday.info] was at one time an MP3.com artist, and let me tell you, if they want to pipe Wrapped In Red [splitsevenrecords.com] into an elevator, they couldn't make me happier!

Makes me glad (4, Funny)

Mullen (14656) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979612)

Makes me glad I was born with no musical talent, now I can't get fucked over by the music industry.

Re:Makes me glad (1)

WeblionX (675030) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979867)

But then there are the problems that come with listening to music.

So this is what I am reduced to (2, Interesting)

skinfitz (564041) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979642)

Speaking as an artist who was formerly on MP3.com I suppose it's kind of amusing that I could end up as elevator music.

At least I have always given some material away for free [skinjob.co.uk] but I cant help wondering what elevators I am going to be heard in.

Re:So this is what I am reduced to (1)

The One KEA (707661) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979691)

What kind of music is it? If it's mainstream-sounding relaxing-type music it will probably appear in high-class sophisticated places like hotels. If it's unique fringe-type music it will probably appear in an elevator similar to the one in the Oracle's apartment building in the Matrix films.

So, what type is it?

Re:So this is what I am reduced to (1)

skinfitz (564041) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979800)

Click the link and find out....

Re:So this is what I am reduced to (2, Funny)

gnu-generation-one (717590) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979760)

"but I cant help wondering what elevators I am going to be heard in."

At the risk of making a HHGttG reference, the elevator in question might need councilling afterwards... ;-)

Taco please read, (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979656)

Please remove that penis from your mouth, you don't know whose anus that's been in. Thank you.

Like winning the lottery (0, Troll)

rcastro0 (241450) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979680)

(...) MP3.com's archive of over 1.5 million songs (...)
It seems to me all this indignation by artists here is probably exagerated. I mean, in the middle of 1.5 million songs to have *yours* picked would be more an honor than a shame. You should be proud! (what if someone listens to you in an elevator ? how much does that hurt ? I listen to myself in the shower every night and it causes me no harm !)

Re:Like winning the lottery (1)

prowley (587280) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979781)

It seems to me that if I write and record a song then it is me who decides when a where it is played and how much I get for it...
Try that same dummass argument on Madonna, or The Rolling Stones and see how glad they are you picked them to screw over.

Is this really beneficial to the artists? (3, Insightful)

dhowells (251561) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979685)

Although there *may* be a limited revenue stream from the comission from these lift-music systems, that not what independant music is really about. A lot of MP3.com artists hoped to start by giving their music away and/or selling it cheaply and by gaining popularity to get a record deal, i.e. get famous and repected first.

On the other hand having your music played in some random lift with noone knowing who you are will never get anyone musical success. I feel this is just another facet to the exploitation of the artist by the industry.

I've got very little to worry about, but still... (3, Interesting)

The Other Nate (137833) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979738)

I'm a little irked that...
1) I never was notified that I had to opt-out
2) I've vitually lost the copyright on my songs through some fancy corporate wheelin' and dealin'.

The thing that I'm most worried about, though, is that someday I may be sued for having an 'unauthorized' copy (the masters) of my own music. :)

Actually, I put my music on mp3.com so that others could enjoy it (not to make money, not to advertise). I guess if there's even the slightest chance that another person will hear my works, it coincides with the original intent. Incidently, I have a day job, but have a great deal of sympathy for those who do this for a living.

Like spam.... (3, Interesting)

herrvinny (698679) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979752)

You get opted in by default....

what's the problem? (5, Insightful)

sugarbomb (22289) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979786)

I don't see what the problem is ... a) if they play your music, you will get paid [trusonic.com] b) if you want out, you can get out [trusonic.com]

Re:what's the problem? (4, Funny)

Saeed al-Sahaf (665390) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979966)

Oh come on, take all the fun of bitching about music companies and big business away, what's left? Oh. A perfectly reasonable deal...

Independent Music (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979805)

My band uploaded a few tracks to mp3.com a while ago. While I think it would be amusing to hear ourselves on an elevator, that's not really what we had in mind when we agreed to let them use our music.

We also put some tunes up on imntv.com

IMNTV [imntv.com]

at about the same time. That got us exposure on cable TV for a while until they seemed to go belly up back in 2002. A few days ago, my girlfriend saw our band's video on Sprint's "wireless TV" platform. Apparently, IMNTV didn't die, they just switched from cable TV to wireless. Again, I think it's cool to see our material in strange places, but I'm not sure how many people out there are actually going to watch "television" on their 2 inch wireless screen.

What's an independent band to do?

Weird elevatortrips (1)

Yasw (718973) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979826)

Some complains might occur if this is true. MP3.com had everything from soft ambient to crushing death metal. Will the elevator go faster is some grindcore is playing?

Broadjam is a good alternative (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#7979836)

Check out Broadjam [broadjam.com] for a good alternative. They've got some good artists on there and as I understand, good musician services.

browsing the top 10 charts I've found some good shiznit...

I know people are complaining, but... (2, Funny)

hiroshi912681 (589840) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979842)

how DO you opt out? I have some music that I was planning to remove from their site, but they went under before I had the chance. I'd like to cut off any relations with them. I DON'T want to be receiving royalties or be making any money off the music.

Yeah but, (2, Funny)

kaoshin (110328) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979856)

have you ever listened to Muzak... ON WEEEED??

We have aquired assets to flog (1)

t_allardyce (48447) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979874)

It cant be worse than cheesy christmas music, that stuff is the worst. Some twat singing about santa and his fuckwit elvs in the christmas snow, and you can tell by his voice that he has an stupid smile on his face and greased back hair - you can just imagine him smoking that pipe and sitting by the open fire. Still, it demonstrates how Vivendi feels about music - it seems to be nothing more than a bit-stream with a price tag to them, i wonder if they have an automated system to sell all this music and if any humans in the company actually listen to it?

Whiners! (4, Informative)

geekd (14774) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979884)

You people (the complainers) are so stupid.

This program has been going on for years. TruSonic has been around since 2000. Mp3.com artists have been used as elevator music for over 3 years already.

All that happened is that division of mp3.com called TruSonic got sold seperately from the rest of mp3.com.

Maybe try reading the artist agreement before you give your music away.

dumbasses.

Opt-out Link (2, Informative)

MunchMunch (670504) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979903)

I was an MP3.com artist and for obvious reasons wanted to opt out. Here's the link [trusonic.com] .

WOW Artists get screwed again (1)

Darth23 (720385) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979904)

So much for the artists and creators getting full credit for their created works.

All over now baby blue (4, Funny)

IWantMoreSpamPlease (571972) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979906)

Years ago, I was in an elevator that was playing muzak.

Normally it's easy to ignore, but in this case the tune was maddeningly familiar. I listened, started humming with it and realized what they were playing:

Black Sabbath's "Paranoid"

It's been all downhill after that.

Interesting Possibilities (1)

Flwyd (607088) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979915)

I found some odd stuff on mp3.com. I'll be impressed the day I get in an elevator that's playing Bethoven's 9th in speed-metal style.

Relaxing Easy Listening? (1)

Altima(BoB) (602987) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979918)

I wonder how their selection process for the muzak is, I'm not sure if anyone besides a hardcore Something Awful.com fan would love to hear some "Semi Automatic Turban" musical stylings on their next elevator journey.

But seriously, if they got almost ALL of the MP3.com tracks, that's a lot of sift through and determine if it's elevator-worthy. I doubt it will all suit the occasion (or non-occasion)

Oddly enough... (1)

Beolach (518512) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979927)

This is what was in my Fortune slashbox when I read this story:

"I would rather spend 10 hours reading someone else's source code than 10 minutes listening to Musak waiting for technical support which isn't." (By Dr. Greg Wettstein, Roger Maris Cancer Center)

Coincidence? Or a sophisticated government plot?

Music (1, Funny)

calcifer (649855) | more than 10 years ago | (#7979953)

It's not likely that all the mp3s are going to be played in elevators. I'm sure they will be sorted for suitability, in other words, only certain genres will be played. You probably won't hear any Nordic death metal in any elevators anytime soon.
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