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CmdrTaco posted more than 15 years ago | from the boy-that's-a-stupid-title dept.

News 42

Robert Flemming wrote in to say that KDE 1.1pre2 is out. I also noticed that GNOME has 0.99.3 RPMs available now if you're into that. LoCoPuff sent us a link to a CNN article about theWindows Refund that mentions Slashdot and quotes me (cough cough). Nate wrote in to say "Brian Eno's "Oblique Strategies" meet the Everything 2 code in The Oblique Strategies Garden. Indeterminacy=fun. " Robert Dale sent us a parody of Iggy Pop's Lust for Life called Lust For Linux (surprise) For todays Star Wars bits, Alan Shutko sent us a link to pictures of Official Star Wars Legos. And the todays flashback comes from The_Black_Macrame who sent a link to the complete errata list from the original Star Wars. It's an oldie, but a goodie. hangman got bored and decided to trash a DEC 2100 and post pictures. Check it out if you're into computer mutilation. An anonymous reader sent us a link to one image you don't want to see on an ATM. And lastly, jhack sent us a link to a nice little page on painting your mac black if you happen to think that blue color is a bit excessive. The final results are pretty sharp. Now stop reading quickies and go compile your 2.2 kernel.

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Broken link (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2032598)

The link for the Mac case painting is broken. Here's the fixed one. [photopoint.com]

KDE (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2032599)

I'm downloading the 1.1pre2 stuff right now...

The latest snapshots I have (990112) really rock on so I can wait for 1.1pre2. 2.0 is really going to be awesome!

GTK is looking really nice and shiny, too. As soon as Gnome goes 1.0 I'm gonna grab some Gnome debs.

I just wish more apps were cross environment compatible... I wanna use IglooFTP (GTK) with KDE's Mac emulator deal. ;)

Lust for Linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2032600)

I know the guy that wrote that! I guess that makes me kewl. I don't see anyone else around here being able to boast about such stupendous accomplishments. Afterall, you aren't anyone is this world unless you have a same for yourself and my name is the same as the guy who wrote that. What's yours?

Slap mah fro! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2032601)

Right on!

Linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2032602)

Although my name isn't the same, I know the guy
who wrote Linux. I guess that makes me cool, too.
I don't see anyone else around here being able to
boast about that! After all, I wouldn't be anyone
today unless it were for Linus.

--( Eric S. Raymond )--
Having a login isn't very Open Sourceful

Professionalism (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2032603)

LoCoPuff sent us a link to a CNN article about the Windows Refund that mentions Slashdot and quotes me (cough cough).

And you wonder why we keep harping on you to improve your journalistic integrity (not to mention your spelling).

password for lego.com to see starwars legos (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2032604)

login: foo_bar
password foo_bar

Microsoft OS/2 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2032605)

This actually happened to me a while back (a year or so tops). I was using my local ATM when it suddently went blank. Fortunetely, it was an ATM where you just swipe the card, and the transaction didn't yet start. When it finally came to, it said Microsoft OS/2 v2.0! Took forever to boot though. ;)


:):):) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2032606)

LINUX ROX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Microsoft ATMs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2032607)

Yes, a couple of years ago Microsoft persuaded the idiots at Nat West bank in England to dump all their reliable old systems and install tons of NT boxes... including their ATMs. Since then the failure rate has increased dramatically, and the customer throughput reduced dramatically because the stupid new user interface slows you down so much. Used to be able to just type your PIN, press a couple of keys and get your money. Now if the machines are actually working rather than displaying a Windows error box you have to go through several screens and five or six keypresses; it takes at least twice as long. Of course as an individual I can reconfigure the system to give *me* the options I want... but since 99% of people don't, we have to wait twice as long for them to get through the menus before we can get in there.

Maybe no-one has ever been sacked for buying Microsoft, but I sure hope that whoever bought these piles of crap has.

Dumb fucks.

Moron (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2032608)

"Konsole" does most certainly NOT 'crash your
machine', you moron. Go back to loserUsenet
and troll there.

I _could_talk about how the Gnome panel crashes
like mad and how GTK themes grind any machine to
a stall, but most of us intelligent people realize
that Gnome is still pre-beta and aren't trying
to start yet another dumb KDE/Gnome flame war.

Lego ?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2032609)

OK mayby they showed like another StarWars in Denmark (home of lego) and made the site to suit there needs ... But I don't recall Darth Vader being a leader of the Empire ? I recall the emperor being the leader of the empire and Darth his main goon ... but then I could be wrong.

So what the heck do I base this on ? Go to the site, characters, darth vader and there you have the little info bit that claims he is a leader of the empire. BAHAHQH!

ATM... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2032610)

Well this is from and in Sweden so I guess one of the larger banks just decided to sell out to Billy. Apparently the don't work all that well either. It "sometimes" "forgetts" to send out the cash and just promptly after you have taken your card returns to the "Please insert your card" welcome screen again.

I am going to change bank ASAP ...

Trolls never die (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2032611)

Will people ever stop that FUD war within the Linux community?
Gnome is definitely an eyecandy, but it's also far from being stable.
KDE's default look is a bit too conservative, but it is definitely rock-solid. In 1.0 the only crashed came from a screensaver, but 1.1 is incredibly much better in every respect.
Konsole is really better than kvt and the last time I heard of serious bugs is months away, so you may try and update your stuff.

BTW, KDE was first, is further advanced and more mature, so why can't the Gnomes be a little more cooperative.
They always reinvent the wheel, just to boycot KDE solutions, even if those are good. (Take those Gnome WM hints as opposed to the KWM hints that existed much earlier and do the same thing; or OpenParts, which is already in use for a long time, while Baboon is not even ready.)

Cooperation is really an issue, and I think Gnome should become less arrogant, now that the license issue is about to be resolved.

Re: ATM... Media One (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2032612)

All weekend long, the Local MediaOne cable access channel/Bulliten Board (Channel 10 in northern Mass) showed a Microsoft alert box saying that an error occurred in Powerpoint, and it would be shut down.

Presumably, they were using Powerpoint to run the "Community Bulliten Board", and everytime I turned on channel 10, there was that error... I loved it!

Re: ATM... Media One (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2032613)

Haha, the same thing happens to our school's video announcements, which are run locally using Corel Presentations somethingorother under windows 3.11, uggghhh. It's common to see the frozen Windows box running the announcements displaying some windows GPF, and I always get a kick out of it; of course I then go back to cursing our school's usage of WfW 3.11 for all of the PCs that we students have to use for anything computer-related in our classes.

Gnome/KDE kinda sucks (1)

gavinhall (33) | more than 15 years ago | (#2032615)

Posted by HolyMackeralAndy:

I agree with you Bastid. I loaded up KDE on my new Linux box and it slowed down like and old Windblows box. I'll try Gnome next.

ATM... (1)

Eg0r (704) | more than 15 years ago | (#2032616)

Disturbing picture... I've always been wondering why some ATM machines are so desperately slow when all I want is to have some cash with no receipt... Please wait... Please wait... Please wait...

Yeah sure, now I know why :-/ And you got me nervous on this one! is this thing broadcasting my PIN or something? my credit card number perhaps? where was the software made? which country?

Another reason NOT to use ATMs with graphic displays! or maybe... not to use them at all?


DEC 2100 (1)

Eg0r (704) | more than 15 years ago | (#2032617)

hehe it's 4.30AM here in the UK, and these kind of comments sure makes me laugh my head off :-)

What? you didn't even know she was? ;-)


Mac Improvement! (1)

mholve (1101) | more than 15 years ago | (#2032618)

That Mac looks 100% better already... I hope it's the quality of the image/compression - but that black on the side looks flat. Eeew. I'd have used semi-gloss, personally. But either way, it looks a helluva lot better than that Bondi Blue B.S. :)

ATM... (1)

ader (1402) | more than 15 years ago | (#2032619)

I've used a NatWest cash till here in the UK with a similar NT error dialogue on it - something about not being able to fetch a current profile. It still worked OK (unless Bill now has a direct debit on my account :-) but the box obscured the display. Of course, NatWest has had well-publicised "issues" with NT. Serve 'em right. Errors like this on a customer-facing application are unforgiveable.

I hung out with Iggy once (and some freaky broad) (1)

CresentCityRon (2570) | more than 15 years ago | (#2032622)

and i thought "Holy shit, Someone is going to fuck up one of the great songs of the 70s." I was pissed off, man. Is nothing sacred? Perhaps some song by Kraftwerk or Eno was next. (Shit Eno is in the same quickie. The end of civilization as I knew it?)

I clicked on and read it.

I liked it! Wow. It wasn't super cornball and stupid.


PS: Please don't put "Turn Blue" to risk.

my first ATM crash... (1)

JimBobJoe (2758) | more than 15 years ago | (#2032623)

Actually, I have walked by an ATM machine, an older non-graphical one, that had a *nixy crash dump on it. (I guess I can't say that for sure, but it did not look like anything a Microsoft product would spit out.) I wish I had a camera to catch the moment...that does not happen all that often.

Windows on ATM (1)

Seb C. (5555) | more than 15 years ago | (#2032625)

Those ATM should have a CTRL-ALT-SUP brand red new button you can bash onto when you don't get enough cash... definitely :)))

ATM... (1)

ewhac (5844) | more than 15 years ago | (#2032626)

Who the fsck would use Windoze in what is essentially an embedded system? Have they caught him yet?


Gnome (1)

bgarrett (6193) | more than 15 years ago | (#2032627)

It's ironic that Gnome displays more maturity than some of its proponents, and that KDE displays more stability than some of its supporters ;) Having said that, I run both systems (parts of both at the same time) and am happy with the comfortable balance I've found. For those of you who want to switch back and forth, either Blackbox or WindowMaker are ideal light-weight window managers. For the toolkit purists, themes are definitely getting there so look-n-feel issues become less important.

One sour note came with the new glib (1.1.13) -- missing symbols trying to run my shiny new GNOME apps. This was fixed by rebuilding from the source RPM. Now I just need to rebuild gnotepad+ to make it work. C'est la vie.

arrays of gold (1)

Soong (7225) | more than 15 years ago | (#2032628)

It's a pity about that DEC, I saw it up close in person and there were some big ceramic PGA chips that would have made lovely jewelry if they hadn't been smashed like last year's coffe mug. (I gave my last girlfriend a beautiful 486dx33 cut open to expose the silicon)

Ah well, destruction was fitting for such an old computer. I know some people who spend much more time than reasonable trying to get those old junkers to keep working and be useful.

DEC 2100 (1)

nosilA (8112) | more than 15 years ago | (#2032629)

Those pictures don't even begin to do the thing justice! I was there when the perpetrator (unfortunately my boyfriend) needed a band-aid. The motherboard and case are completely bent yet not cracked at all. Noone can ever say DEC didn't make solid hardware.

The highlight of it all, though, was when the police were called, because of a noise violation. Apparently (I was back in bed during this exchange) the police comiserated with my boyfriend about wanting to do the same to a computer. Gotta love those campus cops.

Nat West ATM... (1)

Phillip Barnett (8849) | more than 15 years ago | (#2032630)

My friend was pretty big in putting in the NT systems at NatWest - he's an ardent defender of MS and stoutly maintains that if a system conforms to the Hardware Compatibility List, and is "properly set up", then NT is perfectly robust- which it may well be given those precepts..?
I'm afraid he's got the MS line pretty bad, but he has recently asked to try out my copy of Redhat 5.1, so you never know...

GMF - General Monetary Fault (1)

Cid Highwind (9258) | more than 15 years ago | (#2032631)

Press any key to transfer your balance to BillGates@1st National Bank of Redmond, WA. or any other key to reboot.

This sort of thing happens hen you build ATM software in visual basic. Of course, the ATMs at my bank look like they're probably running Fortran based programs under CPM...

Black Mac Moved? (1)

Sethb (9355) | more than 15 years ago | (#2032632)

It hasn't moved, just click on the homepage link when you get the error report, and there's a new link to it at the bottom of the page.

DEC 2100 (1)

DeathB (10047) | more than 15 years ago | (#2032633)

OK...OK... So I shouldn't have even told you I was bleeding... But I did see to it that that computer got what it had coming. Yes, I am the other person behind this useless destruction. And as a note, all useful parts were removed before destruction. These pictures really don't do it justice.

Lego requires Javascript and shockwave. suck. (1)

Hammor (15028) | more than 15 years ago | (#2032635)

I hate javascript. I hate plugins, especially if they aren't available for Linux.

This kind of thing makes me want to buy a pair of boots and go on an ass-kicking road trip.

Gnome (1)

Bastid (15074) | more than 15 years ago | (#2032636)

I have the latest Gnome.
Still rocks. No silly Konsole thing to crash your machine. Works great with windowmaker or enlightenment. I will consider kde when it considers Gnome.

Lego ?! (1)

Ponty (15710) | more than 15 years ago | (#2032637)

Maybe they weren't thinking in terms of formal rank. I always got the impression that it was Darth Vader who was running things and the emperor was a feeble old figurehead. But that's just me.

Interesting People (IP) Mailing List (1)

shellac (78892) | more than 15 years ago | (#2032638)

Does anyone know the web page or e-mail address for the IP mailing list, which they talk about in the CNN article? Thanks....


gnome and debian (1)

four (110907) | more than 15 years ago | (#2032639)

GAh! rpm for sparc yet no deb packages yet?!
i wonder if redhat labs joining up with gnome has had any effect on whats going on :/
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