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Boot Windows Faster, Using Linux

timothy posted more than 10 years ago | from the linux-to-the-rescue dept.

Windows 369

BiOFH writes "TechNewsWorld is reporting that InterVideo has a solution for slow boot times runing Windows XP MCE. 'The new Linux-based InstantOn software -- designed to help Windows XP Media Center Edition PCs boot more quickly -- is aimed at taking advantage of the power of Intel's Pentium processors, not at fixing fragmented hard drives. The software integrates into the computer's BIOS and the operating system.'" According to this article, the software uses a small Linux partition on the user's hard drive. I wonder how BIOSes with hard-wired Microsoft-based DRM would cooperate with this scheme.

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First.. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078006)

I'm quick to boot as well :-D

first all the microsoft advertisements now this?! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078026)

slashdot is truely diening...

Howard Dean supporters are a bunch of FUCKTARDS! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078160)

Still giving money to that loser? Well his anti-war shit doesn't fly anymore.Watch the Democrat Party approved candidate make a 180 on that anti-war crap once the nomination is secured.Oh please remember to vote in November We will tell you who for.

Re:Howard Dean supporters are a bunch of FUCKTARDS (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078245)

Like everyone else, I was amused that despite his "vast" number of supporters and incredible fund raising prowess, he came in 3rd in Iowa.

To that effect, last night I went to a howard dean "meetup.com" house party to see what the disconnect was.

The howard dean fundraiser was more like a college frat party than a political event. There was plenty of alcohol, keg stands, funneling, you get the idea. Half the people in attendence didn't seem old enough to vote, and most that I talked to weren't even registered.

I couldn't find one person that wanted to discuss Howard Dean's health care proposal. In fact, no one would discuss politics at all, except to say that "Bush is, like, Hitler, dude!". When pressed for specifics, the subject quickly changed.

Given that these "supporters" were more interested in getting drunk and laid (I walked in on 3 sexual encounters. One of which I was invited to participate), it's not surprising they can't bother voting for him.

Re:Howard Dean supporters are a bunch of FUCKTARDS (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078264)

YEAAAHHH!!

Frist psot? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078008)

Frist Psot?

FAIL *FAIL* FAIL FAIL *FAIL* (FAIL) FAIL (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078154)

You have failed.

sweet (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078012)

fp sluts

YOU FAIL IT, AS WELL. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078163)

yhf. YHL. HAND.

Power users...? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078014)

Software like this would only be for power users...and what kind of power user buys a Windows XP Media Center PC?

Just the opposite (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078037)

It's for users who don't know computers and just want a device they can turn on and have work. It's only OEM, so power users will have a hard time getting their hands on it.

Re:Just the opposite (1)

afidel (530433) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078167)

It's only OEM, so power users will have a hard time getting their hands on it.
*cough* *sputter*

You must have a much different definition of power user than most of us around here =) If you can't get your hands on OEM software, hack Linux into your BIOS and handle the integration of the two then I don't think your a power user by slashdot standards.

Re:Just the opposite (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078189)

Yes, yes, I know, you can get OEM software if you know where to look, but that's beyond what I would call a power user. Especially if said power user is using Windows media edition.

Vaporware! (5, Informative)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078017)

It doesn't make Windows boot faster. It's just a stripped-down version of Linux which of course is going to boot faster because it provides far less functionality. If you want to get to full Windows, you'll have to wait out the remainder of the boot process you interrupted.

Any CD-based Linux distro can achieve the a similar effect with far more functionality.

Re:Vaporware! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078046)

And Linux (full desktop Gnome or KDE version) boots 3-5 times slower than XP. I really don't see how this is going to speed anything up. It's like using Java to speed up assembly. ;)

Re:Vaporware! (-1, Interesting)

LBArrettAnderson (655246) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078144)

Whatever it is, it's pointless. If you want to save power, hibernate it, that'll boot faster than whatever this lunix thing does. But there is NEVER a reason to shut down a Windows XP computer (if you're not installing anything or changing settings). My computer has been on for 92 days and is still as stable and fast as it was on day 1 (super fast and 100% stable).

Re:Vaporware! (2, Insightful)

mikiN (75494) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078178)

But there is NEVER a reason to shut down a Windows XP computer (if you're not installing anything or changing settings).

There is ALWAYS at least one reason to shut down ANY computer: to save energy when you don't use it!

Re:Vaporware! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078210)

rtfc moron.

"if you want to save power, hibernate"

Re:Vaporware! (1)

kfg (145172) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078248)

If you want to save as much power as possible turn it off.

KFG

Re:Vaporware! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078260)

"Hibernate" IS off. It writes the RAM to disk and shuts down.

"Stand-by" uses power. It's the fastest option though.

Re:Vaporware! (1, Funny)

mcpkaaos (449561) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078303)

Maybe he was talking about all the wasted magnetism used to store that data on the disk.

Re:Vaporware! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078182)

Mine runs for about three months at a time, too, but I'm sure there will be 20,000 Slashdot "users" who are willing to claim that we're lying.

Re:Vaporware! (1, Funny)

soloport (312487) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078261)

Mine runs for about three months at a time, too, but I'm sure there will be 20,000 Slashdot "users" who are willing to claim that we're lying.

You're lying.

I, on the otherhand, happen to be sitting. No... Not on my other hand.

But what's your point?

Ok, and now we need 19,999 more like this post to fulfill this AC's dream. Yeeeeeaaaah! We're going to get a bunch of Slashdotters to fulfill this AC's dream!!!!!! And not only are we going to New Hampshire, we're going to South Carolina and Arizona and North Dakota and New Mexico, and we're going to California and Texas and New York. And we're going to South Dakota and Oregon and Washington and Michigan. And then we're going to Washington, D.C. to fulfill this AC's dream! Yeeeeeaaaah!!!!!!

Re:Vaporware! (2, Informative)

gordyf (23004) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078246)

How do you install Windows Updates if you're not rebooting?

Re:Vaporware! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078277)

when i install updates, i reboot.

rtfc

Re:Vaporware! (3, Insightful)

iammaxus (683241) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078251)

If its been on for 92 days then you are surely vulnerable to a number of bugs whose patches require restarts.

Re:Vaporware! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078293)

i may still have the bugs, but i'm not vulnerable.

XP firewall = on.

router=firewall.

port forwarding=disabled.

i don't recall any recent bugs that make me vulnerable to anything as long as my firewalls are working.

Re:Vaporware! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078271)

I never shutdown my win2k computer at work. I go on 2-week vacations and leave it running. I reboot it every 4-6 months when I install some patch that requires it.

My old home computer dual boots FreeBSD and Win2k. I do have occasional win2k crashes, though I can't recall freebsd ever doing so. The win2k crashes have all been caused by hardware problems (flaky drives or cables). freebsd reports errors but is able to reset the drives and continue on.

Re:Vaporware! (0, Troll)

Feztaa (633745) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078281)

But there is NEVER a reason to shut down a Windows XP computer (if you're not installing anything or changing settings). My computer has been on for 92 days and is still as stable and fast as it was on day 1 (super fast and 100% stable).

Tell me, how is it 100% stable if you have to restart it to install things or change settings?

Re:Vaporware! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078300)

do you HAVE a BRAIN? I'm not even going to reply to you beyond asking you that question and making this statement.

Re:Vaporware! (2, Interesting)

gid13 (620803) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078222)

"Any CD-based Linux distro can achieve the a similar effect with far more functionality."

Maybe I'm just ignorant, but I really doubt you can show me a live CD that can hand off to an installed Windows.

Furthermore, live CDs, while great, are not the solution to slow boot times.

And just cause it's related, I set up my VectorLinux (with kernel 2.6.1) to boot right into KDE, and timed it against Windows XP (on the same computer, so there's no hardware advantages). From pressing enter in Grub to being inside the WM, Linux won by about 15 seconds.

Re:Vaporware! (1)

xzai (738354) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078244)

From hitting the power button to getting into windows I have a 15 second start time. Just gotta turn fastboot on.

No first no goatse (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078018)

... but I am !

Re:No first no goatse (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078287)

you are what? stretching your ass?

It doesn't boot windows faster! (5, Informative)

spun (1352) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078021)

It boots Linux faster, offering a choice of several entertainment related programs, as well as the choice to boot windows, which takes as long as usual.

The makers of LinDVD (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078087)

We've heard about them before in the context of LinDVD [intervideo.com]

Someone should really ask them [mailto] when LinDVD will be launched to the public. It sounds like a more stable player than Xine/VLC/Ogle/mplayer

Seems to work, they've had it shipping on IBM Linux Laptops [intervideo.com] for a while.

Re:The makers of LinDVD (1)

ron_ivi (607351) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078127)

Parent wrote: "Someone should really ask them when LinDVD will be launched to the public".

Yeah, that would be cool. I've seen it play, and it's pretty much just like the Windows WinDVD.

Another article on their LinDVD based Instant On product in NewScientist [newscientist.com]

Re:It doesn't boot windows faster! (1)

ForestGrump (644805) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078092)

In other news, Intervideo announces that they will start selling 30,000 rpm hdd to be bundled with their InstantOn software.

-Grump

Yes, but.... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078023)

Does it run Linux?

Furthermore... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078198)

IABCOT (imagine a...)

Common sense (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078032)

What About the old "Don't load programs you don't need to load at startup"? Prefetcher tweakage. (yay for bootvis) Killing ad / spyware, tweaking services? My XP boot fairly quick (if I *enter* out of my 30sec countdown from my Xp bootloader asking me if I want Linux Or windows today.) Who doesn't know that isn't very likely to install a seperate Linux partition just to boot quicker?

Re:Common sense (5, Insightful)

kfg (145172) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078181)

Slow start up times are the price of using programable, general purpose machines. The ultimate way to reduce startup times is to hardwire the specific functionality you're looking for, as in conventional TVs or stereos.

Ya pays yer money and ya takes yer choice, as they say.

KFG

Re:Common sense (1)

interiot (50685) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078208)

The bootvis [microsoft.com] page explicitely says that it's a poor choice of a tool by end users for improving boot times. So, um... what do you use it for that makes you impressed with it?

Re:Common sense (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078239)

BootVis forces a boot optimization defrag, which places boot files towards the fastest part of the disk. You can run this yourself without BootVis with the command:

Rundll32.exe advapi32.dll,ProcessIdleTasks

It's supposed to run every few days when your computer is idle anyway. Personally, I prefer Raxco's PerfectDisk [raxco.com] which can handle this boot file defragging itself. BootVis is useful for figuring out the bottlenecks in your boot though.

Re:Common sense (2, Interesting)

MrAngryForNoReason (711935) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078252)

The bootvis page explicitely says that it's a poor choice of a tool by end users for improving boot times. So, um... what do you use it for that makes you impressed with it?

It impresses me by shaving significant time off boot times. However Microsoft describe it bootvis can do a lot, depending of course on how fast your boot is already and the factor that is slowing it down. If you load a lot of services at startup then bootvis is a great help.

Or didn't you realise that what Microsoft say, and what actually happens aren't always the same?

LinuxBIOS (5, Insightful)

wowbagger (69688) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078033)

Sounds like they are using LinuxBIOS plus some apps for the quick boot option.

Now, the question is, will Joe User start asking himself "Why can't EVERYTHING run this quickly?", and will the companies start realizing that everything CAN, IF they port their stuff to Linux?

(NOTE: Obviously there is one company that is unlikely to take this action, but perhaps others might.)

Of course, there is always the option of embedding Windows into the system ROM as well.

(shudder)

Re:LinuxBIOS (1)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078060)

Then, everybody insists on loading at startup in Linux... and everything comes crashing down again.

Re:LinuxBIOS (0, Troll)

DrLZRDMN (728996) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078179)

Yeah, if you have an eight gig ROM.

It isn't some kind of linux based boot loader... (4, Informative)

Valar (167606) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078035)

Which is what I thought when I read the writeup. It is actually a minimal media-distro designed to boot quickly. To do windows stuff, you still have to wait for windows start time.

not true (1)

relrelrel (737051) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078038)

It's very misleading, it actually boots at the same amount of time as it usually does.

It doesn't make sense (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078044)

You're supposed to leave the MCE on so it can record shows. I don't understand how InterVideo plans to make a dime off this stupid idea.

New MS BIOS source code leaked! (3, Troll)

a XOR b XOR a XOR b (744728) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078045)

Here it is!

F000:E05B call check_for_linux
F000:E061 jc do_error_beep_and_halt
F000:E063 nop
F000:E064 nop
F000:E065 nop
F000:E066 int 19

All kidding aside... I write BIOS code for a living, and this scares the crap out of me. What Microsoft wants is to basically eliminate the BIOS, except for the jump to the OS code (the "int 19" above). Windows already does just about everything that we do in the BIOS, like PCI device enumeration, etc...

No doubt, this would make Microsoft's life a lot more simple, but I think it would give them too much control -- way too much. DRM would just be the start of it.

I wonder what the EFI proponents (Intel) think about this deal...

Re:New MS BIOS source code leaked! (4, Interesting)

adrianbaugh (696007) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078082)

I thought Linux also re-did (or had the ability to re-do) pretty much everything the BIOS did, purely to fix up cretinous BIOSes that didn't do their stuff properly. I can see why that would scare you as a BIOS programmer (not knocking your personal ability, you understand) but surely the simple answer is for the BIOS industry to improve its standards so that OSes don't have to incorporate numerous workarounds.

"Entertainment machines" (4, Informative)

TubeSteak (669689) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078048)

A partition on the hard disk houses the Linux software in an area separate from the Windows operating system. The developer claims that with the new software, the boot time is brief -- a mere 10 seconds. When a user turns on the PC, the InstantON software preempts the Windows boot sequence and takes over, quickly loading basic entertainment functions.


Business Applications

Moving from the quick-boot entertainment functions into Windows, however, will take users more time than the initial 10-second boot because the InstantON software must hand off the user to the Windows operating system at that point. Still, the company believes that most users inclined to use PCs as entertainment machines in their living rooms are accessing those machines mainly for entertainment-related functions, rather than to run business applications like Microsoft Word or Excel.
1st step towards seperating 'entertainment centers' from general computers. "Ro foresees a market emerging for computers that don't have conventional operating systems but are used in the living room as entertainment devices, right beside TVs." And since this technology is being marketed towards OEMs, HP and Gateway etc, I can't imagine that it will compromise WINXP Media Center's DRM.

Re:"Entertainment machines" (2, Insightful)

geekoid (135745) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078113)

". "Ro foresees a market emerging for computers that don't have conventional operating systems but are used in the living room as entertainment devices, right beside TVs.""

He's a genius! Or would have been if he made that statemnt 25 years ago.

Shesh. VCR, has a computer(albiet primitive) cd player, dvd player, stereo, Tivo.
The market is here Ro.

Missing the point of Windows Media Center (4, Insightful)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078049)

Windows Media Center is meant to be a TiVo clone. In order for it to record the shows you want, you need to leave it up at all time. This stripped-down Linux just isn't going to make the cut... the proper mode of operation is to simply avoid rebooting by leaving it always-up.

Re:Missing the point of Windows Media Center (1)

Utopia (149375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078304)

Yeah. Funny they would attempt to sell a media center competitor whose only saving grace is faster boot time!

JUST jerked off to this (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078054)

Enjoy [stickykeys.org] friends!

TROLL (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078064)

Parent is a troll...

Parent is a Troll ?? Really?? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078157)

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Re:Parent is a Troll ?? Really?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078241)

Stop reposting from ASCII Art Farts, you unoriginal queef.

i want fast pre os booting! (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078061)

I have an amd64 msi board which took 25 sec. just to show the grub prompt ...

Everytime the stupid bios checks the whole system if there is new Hardware, oh and of course every sata or raid controller have to do the same .. guess what, i dont put in new Hardware every time i power it on!
I wish there would be a fast option which just save your settings one time and when you dont boot with a special key it just skips all the rubbish i dont care about.

troll? maybe ...

Re:i want fast pre os booting! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078111)

That's really odd. Maybe BIOS support for the new system architecture isn't all the way there yet. I have a 1.67 GHz AXP, and I barely have time to hit DEL when I want to change something in the BIOS.

And are you sure you checked the BIOS everywhere... I can't remember seeing a BIOS without some kind of option to disable detection of (at least some types of) new devices.

How will is this going to be received ... (1)

zbaron (649094) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078063)

... if all of a sudden, as the company believes that most users inclined to use PCs as entertainment machines in their living rooms are accessing those machines mainly for entertainment-related functions, consumers buying these machines never see a need to actually boot into the Windows Media Center. Could we eventually see Media Center as an optional and pay-for add on?

Apply this tactic to other fields (-1, Offtopic)

Ignorant Aardvark (632408) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078071)

Deploy automobile air bags faster, using C4 explosives!

What about hibernate? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078083)

Does media center edition not have hibernate? I doubt you can get a boot time much faster than a restore from hibernate.

Windows is already faster than linux (3, Interesting)

menscher (597856) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078084)

Didn't we just (a few months ago) have a /. story about how to speed up linux boottimes (by parallelizing stuff) so it could stay competitive with WinXP? Somehow I don't think this is going to help.

Meanwhile, my shiny new RHEL 3.0 box isn't mounting NFS filesystems on boot because the network hasn't finished initializing yet. Apparently it takes the network about 30 seconds to come up. Wonder if that's a gigE thing. :(

Re:Windows is already faster than linux (4, Informative)

bobthemonkey13 (215219) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078128)

Linux is a kernel. It takes very little time to boot up (it's done when you see INIT: Version such-and-such booting). On a modern PC, Linux will boot in a few seconds or less. From there, everything is in userland, and boot speed thus depends on what your distro chooses to initialize at startup. So if you're unhappy with bootup times, use a distro that loads less stuff, or cut yours down. For the network thing, I would suspect a failed attempt to get a DHCP lease.

Re:Windows is already faster than linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078158)

Please kill yourself. This is why you don't have a girlfriend. Missed the point, focused the details, and .. missed the point. A cute girl says hi to you, and I'm sure you remind her that you don't know her, her shoe is untied, or maybe you just say nothing becuase you're an idiot. Either way, you're a fucking idiot with nothing worthwile to contribute in life, and you will spend your life "correcting" people you can't understand.

Re:Windows is already faster than linux (2, Informative)

MikeBabcock (65886) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078149)

I've been using daemontools [cr.yp.to] for years to start up all my system processes in parallel. My start-up times are great (plus, I don't have to wait for timeouts on failed drivers before I get a login).

Link to flatland (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078089)

Who needs fast booting? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078090)

Who does it more than twice a year? Oh wait... this is Windows. Nevermind.

Windows already boots faster than Linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078096)

How would this help?

why not use hibernation? (3, Informative)

techvd (744989) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078114)

When the PC is hibernated, it comes back up much much faster than a normal boot. Most PC/laptops on market have had support for hibernation for a while. Except when necessary, why not get rid of a complete boot process and just stick to hibernation? It's no Instant On, but a lot better than a complete reboot!

Re:why not use hibernation? (2, Informative)

mikeman14400 (520812) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078142)

Why even bother with hibernation if your looking for fast time up. Just turn your monitor off and when you need your computer turn your monitor on and Volia! No boot time no stand by wait time... Well i guess you still have to wait on your monitor to come up.

Using Linux to boot Windows (5, Funny)

Our Man In Redmond (63094) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078121)

"I'll take Irony for $1000, Alex."

well (1)

relrelrel (737051) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078129)

i never turn off my windows box anyway, it takes too long to logout, and also to shutdown, so i just keep it on all the time and then it reboots whenever it feels like (when it crashes)

This isn't the solution to the problem... (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078132)

The solution to the long boot time problem isn't quicker boots, it's getting rid of the need to boot or reboot! Think about it, Handheld devices are designed so that they don't need regular reboots. Embedded devices are the same way. My Tivo takes forever to boot up, much longer than my laptop running Windows or Linux, but it doesn't bother me because the only time I reboot it is when it's moved! The solution to these issues is not faster on time, it's always on! This is where Linux has a big lead too, even though WinXP is much better than 9x in terms of stability it still can't beat Linux when measuring stability in weeks and months...

Help (0, Troll)

SparafucileMan (544171) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078133)

I don't understand. Will this make Counter-Strike run faster? The damn faggots keep pwning me!

Oh come on. (2, Insightful)

ProtonMotiveForce (267027) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078136)

Is everything about Microsoft's DRM? Really, now, is it?

Re:Oh come on. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078164)

That's what I wondering, too. This supposed DRM-ed BIOS, does it exist anywhere other than in Slashbotters' imaginations?

Memory images on disk (3, Informative)

digitalhermit (113459) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078138)

There was a project a while back to take a snapshot of a boot state then load this snapshot directly into memory. Any modern harddrive can move the 40M or so in a few seconds. The sticking points were mainly due to hardware that needed initialization and some OS design issues (beyond my understanding, but had to do with how control is passed to the operating system). If not for these issues, the machine could boot completely in seconds.

Bron-Bron Sucked my narbs.....sue!!!! (-1, Troll)

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Can't spell? (0, Offtopic)

solic (728293) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078146)

THe writters of the article couldn't even spell my hometown right, it's not Freemont it's Fremont!

Innovation (1)

Camel Pilot (78781) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078159)

Wait a minute this smells like an innovation and we all know only MS can bring innovation to the marketplace. I think they have an exclusive license from SCO.

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Timmy Stay in your Chair (1, Informative)

sPaKr (116314) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078168)

Jebus. This doesnt boot MCE faster. Rather it uses Linux for some media operations.. but still boots MCE for other things. Timmy You make the most mistakes in posting. You post more dupes, and wrong descriptions then anyone else. Please stay in your chair.. and fondle your joystick.. and keep all your comments to saying only your own name. The world .. and slashdot will be a better place.

I like how... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078171)

...they throw in that snide, gratuitous dig at "MS BIOS DRM" even though it doesn't even exist yet, let alone implemented in anyone's PC yet.

i know some may disagree, (0)

pablo_max (626328) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078180)

but I think that anything Linux-based right now is not really going to hit the main stream. Maybe in a couple years but not now. I know there are a lot a young people who are computer users, but mostly its us 30-45 year olds who are stuck on windows and we make up a huge segment of the user population. Its going to be really hard to get us to change our ways, even more so for people who are even older. change is scary. though its nice when its free.

Re:i know some may disagree, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078203)

Yeah, that TiVo thing is never going to catch on. Google, either. Doomed they are.

Re:i know some may disagree, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078240)

The difference is that Google and Tivo have caught on while Dekstop Linux has not.

Re:i know some may disagree, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078268)

Who said anything about the desktop? "Anything linux based" was the statement.

Re:i know some may disagree, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078280)

Who said anything about the desktop?

I did.

"Anything linux based" was the statement.

Your point is? Can't handle the truth?

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Incredible Misleading (3, Insightful)

Ageless (10680) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078197)

This has to be one of the most misleading articles, and even more misleading /. blurbs I have ever seen. This software has nothing to do with Windows. It's a stripped down version of Linux that has basic media center programs. It "integrates" with the BIOS by "booting" like every other operating system.

Paranoia (1)

91degrees (207121) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078254)

I wonder how BIOSes with hard-wired Microsoft-based DRM would cooperate with this scheme.

At the time of writing - I suspect all of them.

Parallel init scripts? (1)

pardasaniman (585320) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078282)

I RTFA!

How does it boot in ten seconds? I suspect parallel init scripts.. I realize it wouldn't need alot of services... but heck, ten seconds is still awfully short to run X and a few tiny apps.

Seriously, the next distro to have parallel init, is the distro I am sold to... no functionality would be more essential than booting in less than 20seconds to me.

SCREW GEORGE BUSH! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8078286)

Bush is, like, Hitler, Dude!

Bad Benchmarking Screwed up Windows Design (4, Interesting)

cmacb (547347) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078288)

My recollection is that Windows boot times first started getting bad (WFW booted pretty fast comparatively) when publications like CNet were bending over backwards (or was it the other way) to show how much faster Office was than competing products. The benchmarking consisted of: (1) boot both systems, (2) start timers, (3) start application, (4) start benchmark series, (5) end application, (6) stop timers.

Lo, and behold, more and more initialization work for Office, and then IE, started showing up in the Windows boot sequence.

Merging applications into the OS is BAD DESIGN, but it won the poorly thought out benchmarks that many organizations used to select their "productivity" tools. Now Windows, and Windows users will pay the price. Serves them right.

Sure, leave your Windows machines running 24/7 to avoid the boot delay. Linux and OS X users have that option too, but for them it is truly an option, not something they NEED to do.

Slow XPMCE booting? (1, Insightful)

Utopia (149375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8078291)

What the hell are they taking about?
My XPMCE boots faster than any OS I have ever seen.
I rarely have to reboot. But when I do, it takes less than 30 seconds to boot my machine.
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