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Civ3 For Linux

CmdrTaco posted more than 14 years ago | from the what-a-golden-day-today-is dept.

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DP writes "Well, it is known known which game they will be porting. Civilization: Call to Power (CIV III, basically), will be fully ported to linux by Loki Software, all utilities and extras included. " How many hours did I lose to the original Civ? Man, this is great news.

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Simulators (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031616)

I never played anything after I left SimCity.

Great news indeed! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031617)

Civ1 and Civ2 are two of the best. Now if I could just get Age of Empires on Linux, I might never leave.

The only reason I keep Windows on my computer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031618)

Yahoo! So soon I can get totally rid of my last piece of MS software.

wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031619)

CivI was the best game ever. If Civ3 makes it to Linux, I'll be sure to buy it.

Civ-a-holics, please form a line to the left...... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031620)

I actually lost a job once due to severe civilization addiction....

KEEP AWAY! BE VERY AFRAID!

Whoa cool... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031621)

I will certainly buy it.

Even if it sucks, I'll send my monetary message to the software developers of the world...

Like someone else said, "If only I could get SimCity 3000 on Linux."

I hate this! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031622)

Proprietary
software for Linux is _the bad thing_! Well, after
all, only the name Windows -> Linux changes, other things will stay!

Civ3 Wow! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031623)

Civ2 is the only game I ever play, but now I have to try Civ3!

(Almost) more fun than 2.2 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031624)

Cool!

Civ3 for Linux (and maybe other un*xes) is probably more cool than Linux 2.2!!!!!

No Subject Given (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031625)

Oh man, no. Civ almost sucked my soul away. There are about two years of my life from which I can remember only Civ. Even my brother, who hates computers and all things associated with them, failed a quarter of college because of Civ. Oh man, not now... I have a job now, guye! Can't you just delay the release until I'm retired? C'mon, delay your product another 40 years! PLEEEEEEAAAAAASE!

FreeCiv (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031626)

There is a GPLed implementation of Civ, perhaps you should check that out and give them a hand, rather then slobbering like trained little consumers.

Call to Power Civ 3 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031627)

Sid Mier is the Civ guy, and he will be doing
all further traditional Civ games. Call to Power
is by an Activision who licensed the Civ NAME.
They are making the game as much like Civ as possible, with additions of Mechs. There are also
two other companies who have also licensed the
Civ name and are doing the same thing. If you
really want Civ 3, pick up Alpha Centarui. That
is the actual Civ 3.

I hate this! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031628)

Man, you can't get everything free in the world. you have to pay for somethings. Next you be bitching about having to pay for long distance phone calls and cars.

FreeCiv (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031629)

Yeah, God forbid we would like to support Sid Meier for coming out with such a great game..



Moron.

Sid had nothing to do with Civ3 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031630)

Not so great news considering Sid Meier had nothing to do with it. On the other hand I'd love to see Alpha Centauri ported.

FreeCiv sucks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031631)

Give me a break. Go look at Activision's Civilization game and then go look at FreeCiv. See the difference? Nice graphics add a hell of a lot to game play.

Civ3 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031632)

No, there really isn't a Civ3. "Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri" is being _produced_ by Sid, not developed. The subtitle is "a game by Brian [forgot his last name]"

Civ3 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031633)

Activision licensed the rights to the name "Civilization" from Avalon Hill. Microprose also has a Civilization game of their own in the works(I saw a preview of it at E3 last May). Neither will have the blessing of Sid Meier, so it would seem that Alpha Centauri is the legitimate heir to the throne.

Freeciv (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031634)

Yep, I play it once in a while, and it works. But I don't particularly enjoy the interface. I think Civ plays much smoother. We'll see how Civ:CTP will play.

(Sorry, I can't find the time to take part in development to improve FreeCiv myself)

You're so right. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031635)

Just imagine the state of the computer industry if everyone bought commercial software.

Oh ... wait ...

lokisoft better not suck (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031636)

If they screw it up, linux games will get a very bad name. Whoever is in charge of this project, don't sleep!

Civ is great, railroad tycoon is better! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031637)

Hmm, anyone remember Railroad tycoon? The best game I ever played, very stable to. I left my machine on for about 25 days only running that game (just to get somewhere in time). That's a game I'd like for Linux =)

Railroad Tycoon II is out I've heard, haven't had a chance to try it though =(

WOOHOO!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031638)

WOOHOO!!!

Civ3 != alpha centauri != civ:call to .... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031639)

actually *real* civ3 will be released by microprose this year

moron (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031640)

you idiot sid meier doesnt have anything to do with this game .....
go back to windows where you belong.....

Civ is great, railroad tycoon is better! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031641)

hmm have you tried playing it in dosemu someone said to me that he menaged to do that.... dont know if its true.... anyway.. give it a try

Civ is great, railroad tycoon is better! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031642)

Railroad Tycoon was the first PC game that ever interested me enough to spend far too much time playing. I spent pretty much an entire Christmas break one year playing it. I got RRT II a few weeks ago and now I'm back to being hooked.

Yikes, and now Alpha Centauri and SC3K are coming out. Too bad I have several decades before retirement.

re: performance (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031643)

Anyone know how Linux compares to Windows in terms of performance for games? Im wondering how CIV3 will compare to the Windows version.

It's coming out for BeOS? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031644)

Since when? Where did you hear this? According to their website, it will be available for Windows and soon after Macintosh, but they have no plans to port it to any other platform.

Sid is a racist xenophobic ass. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031645)

The "fanatics" units are arabs, the "wonders" are nearly 100% American, English, or classical western, and "communism" is monarchy warmed over.

Actually, sorta. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031646)

I got it to install under wine, but the video for windows kills the game right at the beginning. (spinning microprose logo movie)

kinda wrong (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031647)

Exactly, and he is also the brains behind Colonization and Alpha Centauri. (Man, I still love Colonization as much as Civ and Civ2) Sid, of course, helps design the games by doing in-house playtesting and contributes ideas etc, but Brian Reynolds is the main developer.

Thus, the box says:

Sid Meier's
Alpha Centauri
A Brian Reynolds Design

(Of course they make it look pretty) It's all marketing, but man the game is sweet regardless.


re: performance (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031648)

why ?
heh do you think you can explain this of give me url to info on this?
thanx in advance

Civ1 clone? nope (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031649)

you can choose between civI and civII mode when playing. only bad thing is that gfx on freeciv sucks, its even worse than gfx on civI, but its great game

Not a charity (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031650)

Free software isn't the only correct model for software. I have no problem paying $50 for a decent game for Linux assuming it doesn't suck. Likewise, if Torvalds charged $100/license for Linux instead of giving it away I would have still used Linux... granted, I would have probably pirated it though.

CIVILIZATION IS NERD CRACK! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031651)

Cripes. Sonofabitch.

I managed to ditch my Civ II habit, after a year of relapses and subsequent episodes of intense self-loathing and disgust with the faults of the game. (The endgame gets damn repetitious, when the ai activates the "Cheat Shamelessly" module.)

The mere presence of this new entry will keep me up nights, wondering if it will actually be better, and not just another fruitless time-waster. It can't help but be the latter, of course, even if it has more chrome, but I'll probably end up buying it anyway shit oh shit oh shit give me strength BLEEEEEeeeeeuggghhhh!

Here's a better one... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031652)

http://empire.idlpaper.com

SheepShaver? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031653)

I'm not really sure, but can't it be SheepShaver running the Mac version?

Oh yes! I'm sure that is what he had in mind! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031654)

Sid should insist that the fanatic unit be updated to a more appropriate image of fanaticism. Any member of the religious right, such as Bob Barr or Henry Hyde, should suffice.

Everyone's aware of FreeCiv, right? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 14 years ago | (#2031655)

Dude! Those songs are great!
or something

Fantastic!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2031656)

This would be the best news I've heard in a LONG time! I wouldn't have to buy SC3K for Windows and I'd be able to use Be instead! WOOHOO!

BeOS makes an AWESOME gaming platform, for the end-user and the programmer. Programming high-end multimedia stuff under Be is so much easier and the results are so much nicer than just about anything else I can think of. I only hope the programmers at Be who have those Voodoo2 cards hurry up and hack together some kind of support. THEN BeOS will be THE BEST games platform around.

Designers of Civ (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2031657)

Sid designed Civ 1
Brian enhanced Sid's game to make Civ 2
Sid and Brian are collaborating on Alpha Centauri

Those games are plenty of reason for me to keep Win 98 on my spare drive... If only Firaxis (the company Sid left Microprose to start) were on the Linux bandwagon.

They have to do some of their work in-house (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2031658)

As for the wheel, you can make that your third mouse button if you want. I don't know if you can use the wheel to scroll in X yet. (Undoubtedly there is someone working on it, if there isn't a how-to out there already.)

---------------------------------------------

The answer is 'yes'. Go to freshmeat.net, and do a search for 'imwheel'. I believe its current version is 0.9.5; its README describes both how to make a wheel mouse's scroll button your third button in X, as well as setup to use it to scroll.

FreeCiv graphics (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2031659)

But you can of course change the graphics to anything you'd like since it comes with source code. There are a couple of places on the net where you can get the Civ2 graphics for use in FreeCiv.

Loki == Suckers? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2031660)

Tried to get their website, got error message:

"The hard access limit for this user has been reached".

I certainly can't take these folks seriously... Guess I will have to get a Computer with Windoze for Civ3. I want that game.

Old crap! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2031661)

Once again some old crap that can't hack it on other systems gets ported to Linux. How long before this leads to a backlash. Soon we'll see scores of; "We ported 3D-super tic-tac-toe to Linux and we didn't make a buck, says the boss of Crud games, inc."-articles in the MS friendly press. And then we'll be up shit creek as far as the public opinion goes.

For christ's sake create something new and innovative that blow all the MS shite to hell...

Bill S B

It's coming out for BeOS... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2031662)

Gr8 an0ther reas0n t0 b0yc0tt Be0s!

Sid Mayer (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2031663)

Whatever Sid Mayer comes up with rocks! Remeber Pirates on the C64, Civ and Railroad Tycoon on PC. The man is a genious!

If he is involved in the making of Civ III I will diffinitly go buy it (if it runs on Linux).

Civ3 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2031664)

Sid should have created a Linux faction :
intolerant to every other faction, takes
100 turns to develop a basic functionality
and worthless in battle.
Grow up , people.

Great! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2031665)

I can't wait to buy this game! Hell, I might buy five copies! I can't wait for the Linux game market to be for real.

Civ3 != alpha centauri != civ:call to .... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2031666)

i think that microprose have enough money to buy few good programmers and make history again with civIII
i think that civIII will beat civ: call to the power because they will steal all ideas from call to the power + add their own ideas....
do you know when ac will be released ?

Old crap! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 15 years ago | (#2031667)

For heaven's sake the fully playable beta version has been making it sround on the warezboards for at least six months now. So it is not really "new"...

Civ1 clone? (1)

Patrik Nordebo (170) | more than 15 years ago | (#2031673)

FreeCiv is an improved clone of Civ2, except the graphics are nowhere near as good, and I'm not sure how good the AI is, cause I almost never play single player. But it has all that Civ2 has, plus it is more tunable.

FreeCiv sucks (1)

Patrik Nordebo (170) | more than 15 years ago | (#2031674)

Because (at least in this case) paying the open source developers is taking a risk (it's not sure they'll manage to get good graphics into the game) whereas buying the game is a far more limited risk - will I like the game? That can easily be answered by playing demos or pirating the game.

wabi! (1)

Dave O (391) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031675)

If it runs on Win 3.1 then AFAIK it should run under wabi. Give it a shot if you cant get WINE to work

Civ3 (1)

Trepidity (597) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031676)

Not to be picky, but this is Civ3 in name only. The real Civ3 is called Alpha Centauri, and is being developed by Sid Meier, the developer of the first two Civilizations games. Civ3 has a new development team, but they kept the same name, since the company, not Sid, has the rights to it. Anyway, both look like great games (though Alpha Centauri, being designed by Mr. Meier, resembles the first two Civilization games more).

Oh slag off (1)

Loki (625) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031677)

Not EVERYTHING has to be gpl'ed for cryin' out loud, it's OK to buy commercialware when one feels like it. Quit acting like a dammed fundamentalist.

--Loki (no relation to Loki software)

WinG (1)

cduffy (652) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031678)

DirectDraw is supported but not WinG? Hmm...

...

Hmm... wine/graphics/wing.c sure looks like a WinG implementation...

I'll buy it... (1)

gavinhall (33) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031679)

Posted by OGL:

...as soon as it comes out. Hopefully their next game will be something more action-oriented though...my voodoo2 is getting bored playing only Quake2.

-W.W.

Turn-based 'leader' games are perfect for Linux. (1)

DunbarTheInept (764) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031680)

Civ always struck me as being exactly the right kind of game to do in the Xwindow environment.

Lots and lots of information up in lots of little popup windows is the kind of thing X excells at. And the way it can be done interspersed with 'real' work makes it just perfect. (Play a turn of Civ while watching your 'make' out of the corner of your eye, that sort of thing). Plus, the type of audience that likes that kind of game tends to overlap a lot with the 'geek' audience, so it makes marketing sense to put something like that on Linux.

I'll look forward to it. Other games that would be similarly sensible to have in X windows are other turn-based 'leader' perspective games, Deadlock, Star Wars Rebellion (not turn based, but should have been), that sort of thing.

killer ... (1)

felicity (870) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031681)

... now maybe I can stop having to boot to Windows to play Age of Empires and just stay in Linux.

I got my 50 dollars ready. (1)

Damon C. Richardson (913) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031682)

Wow yet another excuse to sit at my Linux computer for days with out a bath.

Civ is great, transport tycoon is better! (1)

Tok (1055) | more than 15 years ago | (#2031683)

Along the lines, Transport Tycoon was probably my favourite game of all time. It boots under DOSEMU, but alas, crashes dosemu randomly anywhere from immediately, to a minute into the game.. sigh.

Free-Civ Rocks! (1)

mholve (1101) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031685)

I've managed to compile it just fine on both Linux and Iriz, and let me tell you, it's a time sink if there ever was one! :)

Yes, It Would.. (1)

Thomas Charron (1485) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031686)

Oh great.. That would just bring my productivity to a halt.. ;-P

Everyone's aware of FreeCiv, right? (1)

bobz (1527) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031688)

.

www.freeciv.org [freeciv.org]

Freeciv, as you might expect, is a GPL Civilization clone. It's quite good, in both multiplayer and single player modes. You really don't have an excuse for booting Windows to play Civ any more, unless you really like those annoying little songs that get played over and over...
--
The Linux Game Tome [happypenguin.org]

First commercial game for Linux? (1)

jnik (1733) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031689)

Press release claims that it's the first commercial game for Linux. First shrink-wrap, maybe, but Doom, Quake....?

It's coming out for BeOS... (1)

Tim Moore (1808) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031690)

Hmmm. BeOS is really nothing like Linux/X (in terms of the API), so there's no particular technical reason why it would be natural to port it. But it's reassuring that they pay attention to alternate OSes, so perhaps they could be convinced.

In fact, they used to be very Mac-oriented, and for a long time their games would come out for the Mac first, with the DOS/Windows version following by a few months if it ever got ported at all.

Quake-a-holics, please form a line to the left... (1)

Tim Moore (1808) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031691)

The company I work at used to have an official quake server for employees. "Used to" being the key phrase. (Unfortunately this was before I got here.)

Now, there is a mistake!

FreeCiv sucks (1)

Tim Moore (1808) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031692)

But you didn't answer my question.

To restate: if you're paying, why not pay open source developers instead of developers who only give you limited rights to use what you're paying for?

WINE? (1)

wampus (1932) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031693)

Any one ever get Civ2 to run under wine? The CD sits here taunting me, but I refuse to reboot to use it.

I hate this! (1)

Rational (1990) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031694)

Most games are going to stay propritary, at least when they come out, so learn to live with it. The Open Source model just doesn't work for games, where stability and bug-free code are less important that a coherent and unique vision. Too many cooks spoil the broth, you know that.

Thankfully, a few enlightened developers such as id release the source code after they have milked the games.

FreeCiv sucks (1)

Rational (1990) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031695)

Well, it could also be that Open Source in a game (or at least in some kinds of games) is just a rotten idea.

Basically, what Open Source gives you is unlimited peer reviewing, and (if the project is cool), free bug fixes. This happens because the difference between an application working and an application not working is self evident and clear, and subjective elements of taste have nothing to do with it.

On the other hand, in an Open Source environment, how would you go around fixing, say, Quake2's AI? What is OK for somebody is way too agressive for somebody else, or too wimpy for somebody else yet. How do you choose what is a good ending and what isn't? There is just too many variables and too much subjectivity involved.

On the other hand, I agree that the community should have Open Source game **engines**, and luckily, there are a few of those out. But as far as the end user is concerned, he benefits more from giving the money to Activision for the game he wants to play than from giving it to a group of developers for their own project.

Consider this... Why are so many more people working on conversions of Quake and Quake2 than there are working on entirely new games based off the (free now) Doom engine?

Why to fear commercial appz/gamez? (1)

Candy (2257) | more than 15 years ago | (#2031696)

I read that there are quite some guys out here, who are not that happy.
Could you explain your position, as I can not follow you?

Whats the danger of an app you simply dont need to buy?
*I* will buy one if it is native linux port.

I spent at least 40 hours one month on Civ... (1)

Rendus (2430) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031697)

And I've never even TOUCHED the game... Just talking about it with people or watching them play... Oh boy, there goes my productivity...

Like many others, I'd LOVE a SC3k port as well. Or a way to get it under Wine. Or SVGAlib. Or ANYTHING... (Yes I know about LinCity, don't like it much...)

Oh GOD! (1)

Colin Smith (2679) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031698)

If there's one game I DON'T want ported to Linux, it has to be CIV!!!!

I blew almost a whole year of school because of that bloody game!

OOOO yes! (1)

planet_hoth (3049) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031699)

That clinches it! I'm formatting my remaining
FAT partition to make room for Civ3, baby!

You must buy this game. (1)

roystgnr (4015) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031700)

I mean that. I don't want to hear any more whimpering about "I don't like first person shooters" or "What kind of a name is BFRIS?" - this is a game that any right-thinking human being will agree must be purchased, must be played, and must be played under Linux. A year from today, the Linux (not counting Wine) games situation could be Id Software, or it could be a number of widely varied games with more jumping on the bandwagon; the success of these people (a commercial Linux-game-porting crew!) is going to be a decisive factor. If you don't like non-GPL'ed apps, suck it up and realize you're acting for the greater good. If you don't play computer games, isn't now a good time to start? And if you don't like Civilization, lie down immediately and drink plenty of liquids until the fever breaks, then go out and buy this game when you come to your senses. You know you want to.

FreeCiv - tried it (1)

jtseng (4054) | more than 15 years ago | (#2031701)

It never worked for me. Yes it did run but I could never get a game started. Didn't exactly sell me over.

Civ2, I am a programmer working on PSX versions (1)

Stumpy (4338) | more than 15 years ago | (#2031702)

Not that I could do anything with it, I've got the Civ2 sources basically. I'm working on the PAL/European versions of the game.(Don't blame me if it's screwed up!)

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (1)

noahm (4459) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031703)

If there was a single game I would want run on Linux, it would be one of the Civilizations. I don't know anything about 3, but I play CivNet and Civ2 so much I want to buy another machine to dedicate just to them! This is great news!!!

noah

SOLD! (1)

ComStar (4616) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031704)

Well, well... they've already sold a copy to me! And I know a few of my friends will buy it as well... even if only to promote gaming in the Linux sector.
-Philip

Railroad Tychoon II (1)

Archeopteryx (4648) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031705)

Now that they are doing a Mac port of RRT-II, perhaps a Linux port is not out of the question? I would really love that!

2.2, and now this. (1)

Pyro P (7396) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031706)

Mmm, today was a good day. Now if i could only find a version of util-linux that's not on win.tue and not possibly trojan-ridden.
(have they gotten rid of the util-linux trojan yet?)

wonder what will be the format (1)

szo (7842) | more than 15 years ago | (#2031707)

And which liblaries will be linked to it. I think we should start a campaign to convince the companies producing commercial software for linux to use and support the linux's package formats (all of them), and produce at least two (libc5 and libc6) versions of their product. I mean it is insane that they put a whole lot of work to create a software and don't bother to spend one more day to compile it against two libcs and to package it in rpm and deb and so on.
There were counterexamples (SO, wp8, oracle etc.) and it was really annoying.
Let's make those companies to play the linux game by the rules of the community!

Szo


oh no (1)

natureman (8324) | more than 15 years ago | (#2031709)

Linux does not need more commerical software, i will prefer to see more development of freeciv so it will outform his commercial competitor

They have to do some of their work in-house (1)

scrytch (9198) | more than 15 years ago | (#2031714)

Newer versions of XFree support the mouse wheel. Most apps do not, not out of the box anyhow. Since Linux does not have a standard toolkit, it does not have a standard "scroll" event, so you'll never see a general-purpose scroller. Best you can do is hope Qt and GTK recognize z-axis movement over scrollable components.

bastards (1)

scrytch (9198) | more than 15 years ago | (#2031715)

Fair? If a mac app makes money, it makes money. Some companies don't recoup their investment if they port though. Mac users aren't OWED a damn thing, and it's an insult to mac fans to suggest that they need charity. Because that's what taking a loss is, charity.

Now that Macs are becoming more popular, and have the graphic toolkits (like glide) to target, I imagine you'll see more ports. I just don't want to see Mac support to turn into another affirmative action debate.

Alpha Centauri Port is a possibility (1)

scrytch (9198) | more than 15 years ago | (#2031716)

Whu whoah huh, one would think that would be the EASIEST thing to port to a unix environment, but maybe I'm mistaken. Perhaps some kind soul familiar with DirectPlay could post an overview of how it works (no code, someone might want to do a cleanroom implementation)

Interview with Loki (1)

meese (9260) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031717)

I guess they they haven't gotten to posting it yet, but we have an interview with Loki on linuxpower.org here [linuxpower.org]

Kick Ass..... (1)

cheetah (9485) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031718)

Now if I could just get simcity 3000 ported to linux.....

Woohoo!! (1)

Aurik (11003) | more than 15 years ago | (#2031719)

I'm definitely buying a copy! :)

Wow... (1)

Slarty (11126) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031720)

It's great to see games getting ported to alternative platforms now! I love games, but I'm sure they will be even better on OS's that don't crash every 10 minutes.

It's too bad Linux, BeOS, etc. aren't quite mainstream enough to get some of the other games, too... I'm right in the middle of Grim Fandango at the moment, but I hate having to boot to Windows to play it.

- Slarty

i will never have to boot windows again! (1)

LuckyStarr (12445) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031721)

hip hip hurraaa!

There is a God... (1)

tomed (13012) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031724)

Civ2 is the only thing between me and a record uptime, and Civ3 looks just yummy. This is the greatest thing i've heard in almost forever :) I'll shell out just about anything for this...

Commercial Games under Linux (1)

wmb (15776) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031729)

It's great that we finally have commercial games under Linux. It was about time. There's only a few reasons I still maintain a Windows partition and games has been one the major ones.

Thanks LokiSoft

PS: I don't quite care at this point if Civilization: Call To Power is written by the original author or not if gets me hooked in the same way the first two did.

Oh get over it! Make your own units then! (1)

twinkie (80950) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031730)

If you so much are upset by the fact that Sid Meiers and team had opinions, biases, and limited information, go do him one better. The value of the game is in the gameplay and strategy, not in the ideological or philosophical values of a government, religion, unit, or system. I may just be feeding trolls by replying, but I've seen some twisted(in my eyes) conversions by people who truly wanted a fanatic government, or a Nazi Regime, some Santa Claus units, and other oddities. Sigh. Some people...
-Twinkie

M$ Embraces & Extends Linux... with AoE? (1)

twinkie (80950) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031731)

*Shudder*
Imagine M$ trying to gain a foothold somehow in the Linux OS/market by releasing quality products and games on the Linux OS? Imagine! Competing fairly and on the merit of quality and value! What is wrong with the world.

Oh well, we can dream, right?
M$ Flight simulator would be nice, on Linux, while I'm dreaming. Anyone else with a wish? Support for their Wheel Intellimouse? Their Freestyle Pro? DirectX for Linux?
-Twinkie

Paying for software (1)

twinkie (80950) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031732)

I pay for a good game, period; if your Open Source friends can make a better game than Activision, Microprose, iD, etc, for 50 dollars, I would pay them the 50 dollars, no questions asked. If they charged only 30, I would pay 30. I have no value for an Open Source game just because it is open source. What's the difference in feeding the Open Sourcers or Activision? If you're saying the FreeCiv group can give us a better product than Civ:CtP for a 50 dollar donation, then it would seem that would be a 50 dollars well spent. However, spending the money on Civ2:MGE for example, which is an Open Engine game, rathern than Open Source, we can compile our own scenarios, our own units, our own graphics, our own rules... So where is the advantage in 'buying' FreeCiv over Civ2:MGE?

Lets say we give the money to the FreeCiv guys and they produce something, say Civ2:MGE edition... except that MGE is already out; so we would choose to buy MGE instead. How about we be generous? Give them the money, and expect a better product from them than from Microprose, who would no doubt use the money from MGE to produce Civ3 or some future successor... Like CtP! So, Tim, if you're still reading, or someone else who likes to argue =), what is the value in supporting FreeCiv when we can get Microprose, Activision, and Firaxis to jump flaming hoops for us because we buy their games and vote with our wallets? I'm curious, because while I value the Open Source model for its flexibility, innovation, and stability, I don't know that it is the perfect or superior model in any situation.
-Twinkie

Freeciv (1)

seeS (81505) | more than 14 years ago | (#2031734)

It has an AI now? Excellent. Excellent news about Civ 3 too; one less reason to reboot into windows (if it is as good as Civ 2)
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