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Yamaha Releases Singing Synthesis Software

simoniker posted more than 10 years ago | from the milli-vanilli-back-in-business dept.

Music 344

loopdloop writes "The world's first singing synthesis software, Vocaloid, was released by Yamaha this month at the Los Angeles NAMM show. Simply type in the lyrics and notate the vocal expressions to create a completely computer-generated singer. There are also audio demos of the product available." Update: 01/26 21:14 GMT by S : An earlier NYT-authored preview of this software has also been covered on Slashdot.

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Danger, Will Robinson! I am singing! (1)

Garthnak (110033) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092412)

Great, now we have to listen to computers do karaoke too?

I guess cheating at Karaoke Revolution [] is a cynch now, though. Just hold the mic up to your speaker. And a plus - I don't have to hear people wailing in the next room! Well, not as much, anyway.

Can it sing about (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8092414)

a frosty first one?

Re:Can it sing about (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8092716)

apparantly you can't, because you just failed it, faggot.

closing italics tag (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8092419)

</i>.. what is it all about.. is it good, or is it whack?


Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8092455)

The front page has a missing

I think this is prefectly on topic.

IT'S W4CK D00D (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8092576)

Closing italic tags is totally whack, man. I love italics. The whole world should be italics. Italic tags should NEVER be closed. Just look at these italic prose. They look so good, and they flow so well. It also helps peoples of other languages, who may be use to reading from right to left, know that they should read from left to right. Italics R0X0r5 D00D!!!

Anybody ever say to themselves.... (2, Interesting)

weston (16146) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092421)

"I was going to do that?"

This was something I was really interested in when choosing a college major, and thought that I'd get into EE CS and do this. Somehow, I've found myself coding web applications instead.

I'm glad to see somebody's doing it, but man, I think I took a wrong turn somewhere.

Re:Anybody ever say to themselves.... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8092562)

Well, don't let yourself become stale. Do something innovative on your own time. You're not dead yet...

Re:Anybody ever say to themselves.... (1)

gr8_phk (621180) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092582)

I also thought of doing this several years back. I realized the time had come, and this would be very feasible in the near future (now). What I did instead is work on other peoples cool projects for a living, and continue hobby programming in an area who's time hasn't come yet, but is just a couple more years off from now. Anyone know how to chase VC?

Deja Vu (4, Interesting)

RobPiano (471698) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092423)

Vocaloid has been covered on Slashdot before [] . It is one of the many impressive projects to have at least in part come out of the Music Technology Group [] at Institut Universitari de L'Audiovisual [] in Barcelona.

This is one of many impressive Music Technology groups in the world who is kind enough to provide us with open source software such as CLAM [] . Similarly there [] are [] some [] groups [] out [] there [] doing [] interesting [] things [] . Needless to say, I could link all day...

I am a graduate student in this field

Re:Deja Vu (2, Informative)

weston (16146) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092456)

Did you know about Ingo Titze and "Pavarobbotti"? []

Re:Deja Vu (1)

eggstasy (458692) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092591)

Speaking of Deja Vu, how on earth is this the world's first singing software, when TEN YEARS AGO my SB16 did the same thing on my 486?

Re:Deja Vu (1)

proj_2501 (78149) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092622)

There's also ao computer music center at Brown.

Would you mind enlightening me on your research/classwork? I'm interesting in chasing a master's in this field.

Re:Deja Vu (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8092712)

Posting anon because its off topic. I'm at McGill in Montreal and I'm studying how to classify audio signals from concerts of western music using feature data and a neural net. Its really fun... All of the school are very good but I recommend McGill without hesitation. Check out the webpage ...

Re:Deja Vu (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8092627)

I believe all this is just a vocoder, which has been around for decades, only difference is you put in text instead.

One for the road... (2, Funny)

conner_bw (120497) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092426)

This is great, i'm a drummer who doesn't have a band. Now i can finally get a computer to sing and play the music while i do the beats.

Geez, I hope they don't make a computer that can drum.

Re:One for the road... (0)

afidel (530433) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092478)

It's called an 808 and a 909 and they have been out for a LONG time.

Wait, do I need to take the hook out of my mouth now?

Re:One for the road... (1)

transient (232842) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092520)

Uh, that's not a troll, but you apparently missed the joke. Or should I take the hook out of my mouth?

Re:One for the road... (0)

Datoyminaytah (550912) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092588)

Apparently you missed a joke, too. :) OK, in case you didn't know, the 808 and 909 are REALLY OLD, OBSOLETE (by most people's standards) drum machines.

Re:One for the road... (2, Funny)

Afrosheen (42464) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092611)

Since they're so old and obsolete, if you find one in your attic, I'll take it off your hands for a cool $20 USD.

Re:One for the road... (0, Redundant)

Feyr (449684) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092500)

computer that can drum? we had that 20 years ago, it's called midi

Re:One for the road... (1)

poot_rootbeer (188613) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092547)

Now i can finally get a computer to sing and play the music while i do the beats.

Wow, I didn't know Tony Verderosa [] posted to Slashdot!

Re:One for the road... (5, Funny)

gmaestro (316742) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092676)

You clearly don't understand. This is the last piece in the puzzle of completely eliminating musicians. We have had a drum machine to replace you for a while, electronic instruments and MIDI.

Now we can finally get rid of these whiny musicians, always complaining about "I need to feed my family" and "I'm a professional and should be paid like one." Now all of those unskilled morons can be sent to fill up the thousands of food preparation and customer service jobs that our public school system can't seem to find enough people for.

Sorry about the offtopic (tongue firmly in cheek) rant. You're right. this does sound like a fun toy.

I'm impressed. (3, Funny)

emplynx (735511) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092431)

That's quite amazing. Now we need a computer to write music and songs.

Re:I'm impressed. (4, Funny)

aliens (90441) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092513)

Done. []

Well partly done. I'm sure you could program a computer program to make Teeny boober songs in an afternoon.

@lyrics = "Baby, ooooo, love, ooooo, dance, oooo, uhuhuh";

You get the idea ::)

Re:I'm impressed. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8092639)

@transitions = ("and I'm singin'...", "sayin'...", "singin'...");

Close the loop... (4, Funny)

xmark (177899) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092522)

The logical next step would be a program that would listen to, and enjoy, the music that other computers write and sing.

Think of the time it would free up, and the money it would save - you would never have to buy CDs. *cough* of course, some people have already eliminated that expense.

Re:I'm impressed. (2, Interesting)

weston (16146) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092629)

That's quite amazing. Now we need a computer to write music and songs.

It's been done [] . Bach was an early [] target [] . Heck, I was writing melody generators and harmonizers 8 years ago (badly, but I was doing it).

World's first? (2, Interesting)

inaeldi (623679) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092441)

Shpongle (trance group) used Vocal Writer [] in their CD that was released in 1998.

Re:World's first? (1)

kayser_soze (54474) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092594)

Shpongle is definitley a group to listen to. Very innovative trance sound, and fantastic percussion.


So... (3, Funny)

PakProtector (115173) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092444)

...this is where Britney Spears' talent comes from!

Britney's WHAT? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8092534)

TALENT!?! Please, her only talent is looking good.

Re:So... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8092537)

Vocaloid actually appears to hit the correct notes. I suspect the software would have to be downgraded to accurately reproduce Britney's 'talent.'

Re:So... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8092645)

Oh ... hahahaha, someone ragging on Britney; insinuating she has no talent. How very original. Idiot.

(Yes, everything preceding "Idiot" was sarcasm.)

Re:So... (4, Insightful)

mcpkaaos (449561) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092659)

The irony behind your comment is that vocals from "artists" such as Britney Spears, Christina Aguilara (sp), etc, go through extreme re-engineering after recording (beyond the norm of compression, reverb, EQ, etc.) Once the audio is filtered through tools that re-pitch the parts that go off-key and time-stretch the bits that fall out of rhythm, you have an end result that really isn't all that far from a computer generated voice.

Re:So... (1)

OneIsNotPrime (609963) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092679)

Yes, here is the notation:

<Tone = {Nauseous hamster|12%}{Breaking windows|9%}{Farm equipment fighting huge insects|31%}{Zebra mating call 41%}{Ted Danson weeping|7%}{Torture victims|6%}{Fingernails on chalkboard|1%}>
<Pitch = rand(note_pitch.flat(),note_pitch.high(),random_pi tch())>
<Gyrations = {Zebra mating call 93%}{Elvis Presley ungergoing electric shock therapy|7%}>

Sorry, but,... (2, Insightful)

El (94934) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092707)

I'm sure Britney's "talent" has absolutely nothing to do with her ability to do vocals, and absolutely everything to do with her abilility to take off her clothes...

Makes Milli Vanilli look talented (2)

ebrandsberg (75344) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092446)

man, at least Milli Vanilli had singers.

I prefer SimpleText... (2, Funny)

OriginalSpaceMan (695146) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092448)

It had multiple voices... and was fun. MC Hawking style.... "mmmmmmmMMMMMMMMM ya"

Re:I prefer SimpleText... (1)

Libertarian_Geek (691416) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092617)

But what if Hawking upgraded to Vocaloid. You could here a "soulfull" physics lecture or "air on the superstring".
sorry, I'll shutup now.

Re:I prefer SimpleText... (1)

hak hak (640274) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092715)

There was also a SimpleText (well, actually Speech Manager) voice that would sing the words to some well-known tune by Beethoven (I think, can't remember exactly what song or composer). I also remember reading that the computer voice in the song `Fitter, Happier' by Radiohead was done by the same guy who inspired the `Fred' voice in SimpleText.

In other news... (5, Funny)

c0dedude (587568) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092461)

Wow, this must make the RIAA's day. An artist who needs absolutly no pay and who really is property...

Re:In other news... (1)

Via_Patrino (702161) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092663)

That would be good for songwriters and bad for singers that don't write songs theirselves and are just a good body/voice.

Songwriters won't need them (who get most of the authoring money) because they will be able to "sing" the songs themselves.

This will cheap production costs because there will exist no need to pay studio time. Which may make easier to product an album (more indepency from labels).

But everyone will loose money, from less concerts, because people will be less motivated to go to any of them, since it will exist less real singers.

Quality (1)

mcbunny29 (583989) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092470)

Still sounds like shit
If you get rid of the background instruments, the synthetic voice still sounds ... well... synthetic.

Re:Quality (1)

OriginalSpaceMan (695146) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092509)

Of course it does not sound like a real person singing, BUT, it does sound like singing. Sure, it sounds awful compared to the real thing, but so does synthetic guitar or any other instrument. I have to say it's an impressive waste of research and development, but still impressive.

Welcome to the New Reich! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8092471)

Howard Dean's 'smart ID' plan

By Declan McCullagh
January 26, 2004, 5:18 AM PT

COMMENTARY--After Howard Dean's unexpected defeat last week in Iowa, public attention has focused on his temper, his character, and that guttural Tyrannosaurus bellow of his not-quite-a-concession speech. But Dean's views on Americans' privacy rights may be a superior test of his fitness to be president.
Dean's current stand on privacy appears to leave little wiggle room: His campaign platform pledges unwavering support for "the constitutional principles of equality, liberty and privacy."

Fifteen months before Dean said he would seek the presidency, however, the former Vermont governor spoke at a conference in Pittsburgh co-sponsored by smart-card firm Wave Systems where he called for state drivers' licenses to be transformed into a kind of standardized national ID card for Americans. Embedding smart cards into uniform IDs was necessary to thwart "cyberterrorism" and identity theft, Dean claimed. "We must move to smarter license cards that carry secure digital information that can be universally read at vital checkpoints," Dean said in March 2002, according to a copy of his prepared remarks. "Issuing such a card would have little effect on the privacy of Americans."

Dean also suggested that computer makers such as Apple Computer, Dell, Gateway and Sony should be required to include an ID card reader in PCs--and Americans would have to insert their uniform IDs into the reader before they could log on. "One state's smart-card driver's license must be identifiable by another state's card reader," Dean said. "It must also be easily commercialized by the private sector and included in all PCs over time--making the Internet safer and more secure."

The presidential hopeful offered few details about his radical proposal. "On the Internet, this card will confirm all the information required to gain access to a state (government) network--while also barring anyone who isn't legal age from entering an adult chat room, making the Internet safer for our children, or prevent adults from entering a children's chat room and preying on our kids...Many new computer systems are being created with card reader technology. Older computers can add this feature for very little money," Dean said.

There's probably a good reason why Dean spoke so vaguely: It's unclear how such a system would work in practice. Must Internet cafes include uniform ID card readers on public computers? Would existing computers have to be retrofitted? Would tourists be prohibited from bringing laptops unless they sported uniform ID readers? What about Unix shell accounts? How did a politician who is said to be Internet-savvy concoct this scheme?

Perhaps most importantly, does Dean still want to forcibly implant all of our computers with uniform ID readers?

Unfortunately, Dean's presidential campaign won't answer any of those questions. I've tried six times since Jan. 16 to get a response, and all the press office will say is they've "forwarded it on to our policy folks." And the policy shop isn't talking.

Then there are the privacy questions. To curry favor among the progressive types who form the backbone of his campaign, Dean has positioned himself as a left-of-center civil libertarian. He's guest-blogged for progressive doyen Larry Lessig, embraced the Brady Bill and affirmative action, told audiences on the campaign trail that the Bush administration has "compromised our freedoms in the name of fighting terrorism," and pledged to repeal parts of the USA Patriot Act.

It's difficult to reconcile Dean's current statements with his recent support--less than two years ago--for what amounts to a national ID card and a likely reduction in Americans' privacy. "Privacy is the new urban myth," Dean said in that March 2002 speech.

"I know of no other Democratic candidate who has this view on national ID," said Chris Hoofnagle, associate director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center. "I hope that he'd reconsider his policy on national ID because it has significant affects on individuals' right to privacy and does not make the country more secure. If you think about it, the implication is that children would have to be issued cards as well. Are we talking about ID cards from birth?"

Dean's March 2002 speech to a workshop at Carnegie Mellon University--given just six months after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks--was designed to throw his support behind a standard ID proposal backed by the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators (AAMVA). At the time, Dean was chairman of the National Governors Association, a key ally for the AAMVA as it lobbied to transform the humble state driver's license into a uniform national ID card.

"I'm not surprised," said Barry Steinhardt, director of the technology and liberty program at the American Civil Liberties Union and a former Vermont resident. "It's a backdoor national ID. It won't even work to protect against terrorism because we know that some of the 9-11 terrorists had phony driver's licenses that they were able to buy on the black market."

It's true that most American adults already carry around driver's licenses. But the AAMVA proposal would have mandated biometric identifiers such as digitized fingerprints or retinal scans. Depending on how the system was implemented, your license could be equipped with a smart card (which Dean suggested) that could store information about your movements whenever it was swiped in a reader. It could also be tied to a back-end database so all verifications would be logged with the time, date and location.

The idea never gained traction in Congress because of privacy concerns and opposition not only from conservative activists, but from Democratic-leaning groups including People for the American Way, National Consumers League, and National Council of La Raza.

One prominent group that did support a standardized ID at the time is the New Democrats' public policy wing, which has suggested that microchip-implanted smart cards could hold not only retinal scans or fingerprints but also "food stamps, voter registration, library cards, hunting and fishing licenses" and a wealth of corporate data like E-Z-Pass, gas station automatic billing, and banking information. In one of history's ironic flourishes, Dean lashed out at the New Democrats last month in Exeter, N.H., dubbing them "the Republican wing of the Democratic Party."

It's possible that Dean has a good explanation for his uniform ID card views, and can account for how his principles apparently changed so radically over the course of just two years. Perhaps he can't. But a refusal to answer difficult questions is not an attractive quality in a man who would be president.

Declan McCullagh is CNET's Washington, D.C., correspondent. He chronicles the busy intersection between technology and politics. Before that, he worked for several years as Washington bureau chief for Wired News. He has also worked as a reporter for The Netly News, Time magazine and HotWired.

Proof that Howard Dean is Hitler reincarnate!

great... (1)

n0mad6 (668307) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092475)

...first, dancing robots [] and now singing computers.

Re:great... (2, Funny)

Ba3r (720309) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092548)

...first, dancing robots and now singing computers

sigh... dancing, singing robots?, its been done []

Sounds like Fred Durst to me. (1)

MotherInferior (698543) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092476)

Between Fred Durst and Kid Rock, this sound isn't new. Now, maybe could we replace the actual Fred Durst with a simulated turnip from Yamaha?

Human voice (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8092480)

Machines can _never_ beat human voice. No matter how much technology advances, it will never happen. We are lucky to have emotions - machines can never become emotional. It's all just fake.


Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8092518)

Mod up, it's the truth.

MOD UP!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8092626)

True. Emotions can not be programmed. BTW, do animals have emotions is is it only a human thing?

Re:Human voice (1)

Diaspar (319457) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092661)

well, that's questionable as well. since emotions (in the basic understanding) are chemical reactions that usually alter our behavior patterns, how hard is it to make AI change it's statistics to act a certain way?

For example, one will hardly argue that experiences play a major part in our behavior (if you broke your leg skiing and spent many months in bed, you'll probably avoid snow and skiing like plague). Now, since AI systems are trained statistically based on existing data, how hard is it to just substitute the statistics and replace some successful paths with failed ones? next time around, computer will probably make a different decision knowing previous times failed. now, in "good mood" mode, substitute a few failures with successes and all of a sudden a machine is much more "optimistic"!

Re:Human voice (4, Insightful)

spun (1352) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092675)

Machines can have emotions if we want them to. There was even an article in last month's Scientific American by an AI researcher who claims that machines will need emotions for real AI to work. There have been several robotics/AI projects that have attempted to incorporate emotions, Cynthia Breazeal's robot Kismet being the most famous.

Emotions are an information processing system that works holistically, priming the logical parts of the brain for the kind of work they will need to do. Big orange and black stripey thing running towards you? Prime the brain for a flight or fight response rather than curiosity, i.e. "Run, it's a tiger!" not "I wonder if this orange and black stripey thing wants to play?"

There remains the problem of qualia. That is, a robot may look for all intents and purposes as if it is having emotions, but does it feel the same things internally as we do? Unfortunately, there's no real way of knowing if even other humans feel the same thing we do.

When the day comes that a robot belts out a blues song about someone done it wrong and broke it's heart, we will judge it in the same way we judge human singers: Does it look and sound authentic, or is it faking it? If it looks and sounds authentic, I believe that we will take it for granted that it feels the same as we do, just as we take it for granted in other humans.

Re:Human voice (1)

Lispy (136512) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092713)

If there is one lesson I learned from reading Slahdot the last 5 years it is that I'd never say never to anything remotley related to technology.


Only a first step (5, Funny)

why-is-it (318134) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092485)

"The world's first singing synthesis software, Vocaloid, was released by Yamaha this month at the Los Angeles NAMM show.

Feh! They might be able to program something that sings better than Britney, but until they integrate it with something like this [] , Ms Spears' talents will continue to be in demand...

Enter lyrics + vocal expressions = (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8092486)

So Britney Spears would be the organic version of this software?

Yay! No more Britney! (2, Funny)

Grey Ninja (739021) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092487)

I guess Britney is going to be out of a job now. We all know that any computer can sing better than her, and since neither of them play an instrument, I guess she's screwed.

Not to mention that the computer is far sexier.

Re:Yay! No more Britney! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8092678)

If you think a computer's sexier than Britney, maybe you should change your name to "gay ninja". Faggot.

Awesome! (1)

EmagGeek (574360) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092489)

Now there's no need for Britney, Justin, or any of those other canned-pop "vocalists" (term used extremely loosely)...

Now American Idol doesn't even need to find teenie boppers to exploit for cash, they can just use the computer, have something much more talented, and work the thing to death..

I'll take three!

Re:Awesome! (1)

jfengel (409917) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092578)

Nope, they've just eliminated the studio singers that Britney's lip-synching to. Ya don't sell Britney's voice; ya sell Britney's booty.

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fp! (mine) (2, Funny)

psychoticmelody (745466) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092492)

So will we finally get to replace the prime-time T.V. show American Idol??

Re:fp! (mine) (2, Funny)

Libertarian_Geek (691416) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092573)

A combination of battlebots and american idol.
Where engineers compete to build the best computer synthesised pop singer.

Re:fp! (mine) (1)

SWTP_OS9 (658064) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092690)

I guess Sharon Apple has finaly been created.

Problem is there is no soul behind the music.

Be wild to see the pannel eye pop out on American Idol to see a Sony robot walk on stage then pump out a tune! And dance to it!

Nothing new! (1)

another_henry (570767) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092493)

Now if you want some really impressive tunes head on over to MC Hawking [] 's crib.

Quake master!

America's new hit.. (1)

Sir Pallas (696783) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092494)

Volcaloid Idol! Maybe they can turn that Simon guy into a robot too.

CTAA Welcomes You (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8092495)

Are you a Cmdr.?
Are you a Taco
Are you Cmdr. Taco?

If you answered "Yes" to all of the above questions, then GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE, YOU FUCKING JERKOFF.

Other uses (1)

Via_Patrino (702161) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092497)

What about using it to give expression to the voice and creating virtual actors. That with CG would result in much cheaper movies :-) No millionarie contracts anymore ...


Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8092501)


What's Linux user to do???


hyperstation (185147) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092517)

like, use xine maybe?

Replacing Old Artists (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8092512)

I can now see the day when tweens have poster's of their favorite "singer's" Vocaloid profile in XML.

Or maybe take the 0s and 1s of it and make ASCII art to look like Britney.

MilliVanilli (1)

ender-iii (161623) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092514)

Now anyone with a computer can be famous!
All you need it tight pants and a sock roll.
The flashbacks are horrendous!
Blame in on the rain...

Re:MilliVanilli (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8092710)

Ya, call your virtual group "Simili-vanilli"

Funny I thought..... (1)

MrsPReDiToR (736605) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092515)

that the Pop Idol contestants had been puppets for this technology since the show's inception. Dont tell me they really DO sing that bad?

amazingly enough... (1)

lcde (575627) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092519)

it sounds like this []

gotta love the shat.

Finally.. (1)

Metallic Matty (579124) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092530)

they can retire Britney Spears and just replace her with a touring Vocaloid. (And maybe some strippers.)

Sure it can sing (1)

t0qer (230538) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092549)

But can it rap? []

I might actually hear some talent at my job for once :P

so, i hear that (3, Funny)

DarkSkiesAhead (562955) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092553)

Steven Hawking is trying to start up a band.

Re:so, i hear that (4, Funny)

vinsci (537958) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092647)

Pay attention. And look here [] . :-)

Re:so, i hear that (0, Redundant)

Halthar (669785) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092669)

Yes, he is. Right Here! []

They now need to work on (3, Funny)

mc6809e (214243) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092557)

Just listened to these.

While their "Volcaloid" tech is nice, their "Lyricoid" tech needs work.

This is a few years old! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8092565)

The same technology was used a few years back by the boy band The Party Posse.

"The world's first singing synthesis software"? (1)

mcc (14761) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092579)

It's all neat and stuff that they've done this, but "the world's first singing synthesis software"? Not by a long shot.

Perhaps next month we will get to see an article by Slashdot on the subject of Mitsubishi releasing the world's first car.

Actually... (5, Informative)

mOoZik (698544) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092589)

I had the chance to try it out at NAMM and it is VERY difficult to get it to "sing." It can probably be used adequately for backup vocals, but again, it takes a lot of work to get it to sound human. Nevertheless, a step in the right direction.

This is new? (2, Funny)

LamerX (164968) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092599)

I think my Sound Blaster Pro came with this software. It fit on a floppy disk, and you could make the computer sing whatever you typed in. In fact it also came with a psychiatrist named Dr Sbaitso. Just don't cus at him, he gets offended very easily.

Seriously, I'm sure that this new software is much better. At least I sure hope so...

Re:This is new? (1)

AvengerXP (660081) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092648)

Damn i made sure to search the comments but IE said nope, no match but there was one, i hate IE's search function from the bottom of my cold geeky heart.

You remember this program? Ah the hours upon hours of nasty things you could make it say.

Simone (2, Informative)

Lord_Dweomer (648696) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092602)

I think they should have called it SimOne v1.0

Interestingly enough, this made me think of something I read in William Gibsons blog a long time ago. I don't know where it is now though. It was about how in the future, people will be able to take a movie or something on their computer, and tell the computer to replace all the actors heads with dog heads for example, and change what they do and say with simple commands. Perhaps this software is the lower level beginning of making that happen, we'd just need some higher-level controls to make it easy for everybody to use.

Viva Creative (For once) (1)

AvengerXP (660081) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092605)

I'd rather hear Dr SBAITSO sing.

Remember that? It's the command line computer voice synthesis generator program from Creative which sounds like Dr Hawkins.

Wonder if it's still around...

I'm relieved... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8092610)

I'm relieved after listening to the demos that REAL SINGERS are in no danger of losing work.

Britney Spears, on the other hand...

After listening the demo's, all I can say is (2, Funny)

Snork Asaurus (595692) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092614)

"Don't quit your day job, Mr. Hawking."

(No disrespect intended).

All your instruments are belong to us (0, Troll)

SparafucileMan (544171) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092620)

Damn. So much for musicians and instruments. Long live programmers and the computer! Now, if I can only get ahold of a lisp interface to thesel ibraries, I could take over the music industry from my computer and crush the RIAA!! Muwaha.

Mandatory Radiohead quote (3, Insightful)

Petronius (515525) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092623)

Fitter, happier, more productive
Not drinking too much
Regular exercise at the gym
(3 days a week)
Getting on better with your associate employee contemporaries
At ease
Eating well
(No more microwave dinners and saturated fats)
A patient better driver
A safer car
(Baby smiling in back seat)
Sleeping well
(No bad dreams)
No paranoia
Careful to all animals
(Never washing spiders down the plughole)
Keep in contact with old friends
(Enjoy a drink now and then)
Will frequently check credit at (moral) bank (hole in the wall)
Favours for favours
Fond but not in love
Charity standing orders
On Sundays ring road supermarket
(No killing moths or putting boiling water on the ants)
Car wash
(Also on Sundays)
No longer afraid of the dark or midday shadows
Nothing so ridiculously teenage and desperate
Nothing so childish - at a better pace
Slower and more calculated
No chance of escape
Now self-employed
Concerned (but powerless)
An empowered and informed member of society
(Pragmatism not idealism)
Will not cry in public
Less chance of illness
Tires that grip in the wet
(Shot of baby strapped in back seat)
A good memory
Still cries at a good film
Still kisses with saliva
No longer empty and frantic like a cat tied to a stick
That's driven into frozen winter shit
(The ability to laugh at weakness)
Healthier and more productive
A pig in a cage on antibiotics

I can sing! (0)

Steamhead (714353) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092624)

What you don't believe me?

Don't bring me down... Bruce! (4, Funny)

ThePretender (180143) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092628)

I can't be the only one that thinks the background vocals sound like Electric Light Orchestra??

They've had technology like this... (1)

IchBinDasWalross (720916) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092651)

There's Sprectrasonic's Symphony of voices [] , which is recordings of voices singing, (in the song Sonne, by Rammstein [] ). It's not the same thing; it has Oooh's and Ahhh's, but not actual words, although that seems to be the logical next step.

Really Bad Synths (4, Informative)

Entropy248 (588290) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092655)

Just like many Yamaha firsts, this one may have been overhyped a bit. This sounds like a real person singing in the way that a synth brass pad sounds like a trumpet. There is no way in hell you would ever even consider that these noises were made by a human being. Yes, I understand that most of the samples are in Japanese and might not sound normal to me anyway. But, even if you listen to the ONE in English alone, it sounds like the Bell Labs female voice, but screechy and obnoxious instead of like a drugged out cigarette smoker after a trachyotemy (sp?).

SingTab (1)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092667)

How about an app that finds the tablature and lyrics to a song, marks that data up in the Yamaha format, and sends the arrangement to the singthesizer? It's like PostScript for singing. Where's my Perl module?

first **commercial** software (2, Informative)

stephentyrone (664894) | more than 10 years ago | (#8092684)

cool as this may be, it's definitely not the first singing synthesis software. CNMAT [] at berkeley had a neural-net based additive synthesis engine in the mid 90's that did a pretty good human voice (it could even reproduce the voices of specific individuals, as I recall), and did other instruments as well (a mean viola).

I can't find a link to an actual demo of it simulating a human voice, but here's a page [] that documents its use to reproduce the sound of a suling (javanese wooden flute). Does a good job too. I've heard it demo'd with a human voice, and it was pretty good (though the neural net needed additional input - the syllable being sung - obviously).

i'm sure that many of the other academic computer music labs around the world had similar software long before yamaha introduced this package. still cool, though.

The "First"?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8092701)

No not the first...

The Mac speech thing could be programmed to sing.. I remember doing it maybe 10 frickin' years ago! Just get it to talk asynchronously, and while the speech is running, change the pitch. Easy!

I know of at least VocalWriter [] which uses this technique and has been out since at least 2000.

Not the "first" by a long shot.
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