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Koffice 1.3 Released

michael posted more than 10 years ago | from the my-kingdom-for-a-wordperfect-import-filter dept.

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perbert writes "On January 27th, the KDE Project released KOffice 1.3 for Linux and Unix operating systems. KOffice is a free set of office applications that integrate with the award winning KDE desktop. KOffice is a light-weight yet feature rich office solution and provides a variety of filters to interoperate with other popular office suites such as OpenOffice.org and Microsoft Office."

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Kost First (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104654)

KKK for KDE

/. JUST GOT SCREWED (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8105009)

Anyone else expeiencing front page with no comments then error messages when trying to view comments (which are here)?

Lift and smootch (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104656)

Thanks!

redundant (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104658)

KOffice is a free set of office applications that integrate with the award winning KDE desktop.

Kool Desktop Environment desktop?

Award Winning? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104660)

PFFT!

he's got a point (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104804)

Name one award* Koffice has received.

*Real awards, not "The North Haverbrook Linux Users Group Best Office Suite That Isn't One Of the Other Ones Award"

been using openoffice (1, Offtopic)

TechnoVooDooDaddy (470187) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104673)

for cross-platform goodness, i like openoffice.. runs great on win32 as well as linux & freebsd

Re:been using openoffice (2, Interesting)

diersing (679767) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104725)

Agreed. I rather see the office suite developers of the world unite and improve OpenOffice. Personally, I've never like the KDE Office suite and most distro's include OO as the default.

Open Office Environment (2, Interesting)

Mod Me God (686647) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104980)

OO seems to have a foothold in xplatform (critical mass?) support.

But could someone outline the principal benefits of KOffice over OpenOffice or vice versa? In what way are these better than MS office (functionality not price) for an office product implementation?

Having a choice is great, but I'd prefer the best features, and as with all type-2 errors if I don't know what I'm missing, I don't miss it.

Re:been using openoffice (2, Insightful)

$calar (590356) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104942)

Your opinion is the common one I think. But I think that OOo tends to be bloated and slow on my system. It's a great suite with many features, don't get me wrong, but I think that a more integrated solution is necessary. I have been using Abiword because it's pretty light on startup time and looks good with my GNOME interface. Yes, OOo is going to be having the native widget set, but will that lead to reduced startup times? Probably not.

Yeah, Abiword has its problems, but I think it's better in the long run (for me). I think KOffice isn't as mature as GNOME Office (Maybe with 1.3, this statement is wrong), but I think people are putting a lot of stock in OpenOffice and I'm not totally impressed.

asl ?? flodd! (not an fp; how sad) (-1)

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Too many office choices on Linux now! (5, Insightful)

ChiralSoftware (743411) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104683)

Let's see, OpenOffice, Textmaker, Microsoft Office, KOffice, Kingsoft... what else? It seems that there are now more office choices for Linux than for Windows. Fortunately all except Microsoft Office seem to be moving towards the StarOffice XML format so we can have one file format that works on all of them.

Cross platform = :) (4, Interesting)

stfvon007 (632997) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104800)

I perfer the Open office because its cross platform, as I have a dual-boot machine(well 5x boot) and though I have MS office (needed to get the formatting perfect for those perfectionist profs that ding you for being 1/16 of an inch off in margins (prof required documents be submitted electronicly in .doc format), and for combinations of drawing+text wich open office still dosnt have good compatability with (the text stays in place while the images get all scrunched so they dont match up at all)Its been getting better but is not perfect.

MAKE SURE YOU FUCK YOUR POSTS (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104689)

EAT YOUR OWN SHIT, SALIVATING SHITDEMONS!!! and by the way, here's a copy of the site's front page in case you blowshits slashdot the motherfucker;

Skip to Content | Location: KOffice Homepage Settings | Sitemap | Help | Contact Us Skip to Link Menu KOffice 1.3 Announcement On January 27th, the KDE Project released KOffice 1.3 for Linux and Unix operating systems. KOffice is a free set of office applications that integrate with the award winning KDE desktop. KOffice is a light-weight yet feature rich office solution and provides a variety of filters to interoperate with other popular office suites such as OpenOffice.org and Microsoft Office. KOffice 1.3 consists of the following applications: * KWord - A frame-based word processor * KSpread - An advanced spreadsheet application * KPresenter - A full-featured presentation program * Kivio - A Visio-style flowcharting application * Karbon14 - A vector drawing application * Kugar - A tool for generating business quality reports * KChart - An integrated graph and chart drawing tool * KFormula - A powerful formula editor Big improvements have been made in KOffice 1.3 with respect to interoperability with other office file formats. It is now for example possible to import as well as export OpenOffice.org documents. Also new is the ability to import PDF files into KWord and make changes to the document. Support for Microsoft document- formats has improved as well. "Many people have been asking for improved support for the Microsoft document-formats and we have made significant improvements in that area for this release," says David Faure, a KOffice developer for Klaralvdalens Datakonsult AB. "Especially the support for Microsoft Word 95 and Microsoft Word 97 documents has become much better." Principal Improvements The principal improvements over KOffice 1.2 are: KWord (Word Processor). * support for automatic hyphenation; * a new MS Word import filter; * support for pictures, tables and footnotes in the RTF export filter (which has been re-written); * support for pictures and footnotes in the LaTeX export filter; * a new MS Write export filter and a re-written MS Write import filter; * support for bookmarks; * text sorting; * new character attributes, such as word-by-word underlining and relative font sizes; and * improved spell checking (selection only; ignore words; etc.). KPresenter (Presentation Tool). * support for automatic hyphenation; * an improved slide transition dialog, featuring a preview of the slide effect; * drawing images with alpha channels; * customizable printing of slide notes; and * improved HTML export as well as usability enhancements to the HTML export wizard. KSpread (Spreadsheet). * over 100 new formulas (date/time, math, statistical, financial and more); * an OpenCalc import and export filter; * a new LaTeX export filter; * enhancements to the CSV import and export options; * new date and time formats; * a subtotal dialog and formula; and * default cell styles. Kugar / Kugar Designer (Business Reporting). * redesigned to better integrate into the KOffice environment; * enhanced handling of items in the designer (cut / copy / paste; undo / redo; manual z-ordering; etc.); * support for printing reports from the command line / scripts; and * a DCOP interface. A more complete list of changes is available at the KOffice web site. Installing KOffice 1.3 Binary Packages Binary Packages. Some Linux/UNIX OS vendors have kindly provided binary packages of KOffice 1.3 for some versions of their distribution, and in other cases community volunteers have done so. Some of these binary packages are available for free download from KDE's http or ftp mirrors. Additional binary packages, as well as updates to the packages now available, may become available over the coming weeks. Please note that the KDE Project makes these packages available from the KDE web site as a convenience to KDE users. The KDE Project is not responsible for these packages as they are provided by third parties - typically, but not always, the distributor of the relevant distribution - using tools, compilers, library versions and quality assurance procedures over which KDE exercises no control. If you cannot find a binary package for your OS, or you are displeased with the quality of binary packages available for your system, please read the KDE Binary Package Policy and/or contact your OS vendor. Library Requirements / Options. The library requirements for a particular binary package vary with the system on which the package was compiled. Please bear in mind that some binary packages may require a newer version of Qt and other libraries than was shipped with the system (e.g., LinuxDistro X.Y may have shipped with Qt-3.0.0 but the packages below may require Qt-3.0.3). For general library requirements for KDE, please see the text at Source Code - Library Requirements below. Package Locations. At the time of this release, pre-compiled packages are available for: * SUSE Linux * Slackware Linux Please check the servers periodically for pre-compiled packages for other distributions. More binary packages will become available over the coming days and weeks. Compiling KOffice 1.3 Library Requirements. KOffice 1.3 requires the following libraries: * kdelibs 3.1, which can be downloaded following the instructions at the KDE website (for more information on these kdelibs releases, please see the KDE 3.1.5 announcement); * Qt-3.1, which is available in source code from Trolltech as qt-x11-free-3.1.0.tar.gz (qt-x11-free-3.1.2.tar.gz is recommended); and * for reading help pages and other KOffice documentation, libxml2 >= 2.4.9 and libxslt >= 1.0.7. Compiler Requirements. At a minimum gcc-2.95-* is required. Source Code. The complete source code for KOffice 1.3 is available for free download via one of the KDE http or ftp mirrors. Further Information. For further instructions on compiling and installing KOffice, please consult the KOffice installation instructions. For problems with SRPMs, please contact the person listed in the applicable .spec file. Corporate KOffice Sponsors Besides the valuable and excellent efforts by the KOffice developers themselves, significant support for KOffice development has been provided by MandrakeSoft (which sponsors KOffice developer Laurent Montel), theKompany.com (which has contributed Kivio and Kugar to KOffice), Klaralvdalens Datakonsult AB (which partially sponsors KOffice developer David Faure and has contributed KChart to KOffice) and SUSE AG which employs Lukas Tinkl, the current KOffice release manager. In addition, a large number of individual sponsors (donate) have provided significant support for KDE and KOffice. Thanks! About KOffice/KDE KOffice is part of the KDE Project. KDE is an independent project of hundreds of developers, translators, artists and professionals worldwide collaborating over the Internet to create and freely distribute a sophisticated, customizable and stable desktop and office environment employing a flexible, component-based, network-transparent architecture and offering an outstanding development platform. KDE provides a stable, mature desktop, a full, component-based office suite (KOffice), a large set of networking and administration tools and utilities, and an efficient, intuitive development environment featuring the excellent IDE KDevelop. KDE is working proof that the Open Source "Bazaar-style" software development model can yield first-rate technologies on par with and superior to even the most complex commercial software. Please visit the KDE family of web sites for the KDE FAQ, screenshots, KOffice information and developer information. Much more information about KDE is available from KDE's family of web sites. Release Coordinator: Thanks to Lukas Tinkl for his excellent services as release coordinator. Trademarks Notices. KDE, K Desktop Environment and KOffice are trademarks of KDE e.V. Incorporated. Linux is a registered trademark of Linus Torvalds. Trolltech and Qt are trademarks of Trolltech AS. UNIX is a registered trademark of The Open Group. All other trademarks and copyrights referred to in this announcement are the property of their respective owners. Press Contacts Africa Uwe Thiem P.P.Box 30955 Windhoek Namibia Phone: +264 - 61 - 24 92 49 info-africa@kde.org Asia Sirtaj S. Kang C-324 Defence Colony New Delhi India 110024 Phone: +91-981807-8372 info-asia@kde.org Europe Matthias Kalle Dalheimer Rysktorp S-683 92 Hagfors Sweden Phone: +46-563-540023 Fax: +46-563-540028 info-europe@kde.org North America George Staikos 889 Bay St. #205 Toronto, ON, M5S 3K5 Canada Phone: (416)-925-4030 info-northamerica@kde.org Oceania Hamish Rodda 11 Eucalyptus Road Eltham VIC 3095 Australia Phone: (+61)402 346684 info-oceania@kde.org South America Helio Chissini de Castro R. Jose de Alencar 120, apto 1906 Curitiba, PR 80050-240 Brazil Phone: +55(41)262-0782 / +55(41)360-2670 info-southamerica@kde.org Inform * Home * KDE Home * News * Information * FAQ * Add-ons for KOffice * People * Mailing Lists * Support KOffice * Get Involved Latest Releases * KOffice 1.3 KOffice Applications * KWord * KSpread * KPresenter * Kivio * Karbon14 * Krita * Kugar * KPlato * Kexi * KChart * KFormula * Import/Export Filters Download * Download Develop * Developer Resources Search Search: in KDE Home | KDE Accessibility Home | Description of Access Keys Maintained by koffice.org Webmaster KDE and K Desktop Environment are trademarks of KDE e.V | Legal

you fuckin KNOW IT!!!

Sounds good, but... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104691)

Does it run on Gnome?

Re:Sounds good, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104996)

schnapps!

This can only be a good thing (5, Interesting)

Tim_F (12524) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104698)

OpenOffice has sat alone at the top of the Free Office Suite application hill for too long. I have been using this product since its alpha stages, and can say without reservations that it has improved by leaps and bounds. The MS Word import filters are alone worth the price of admission (a quick compile on my Gentoo box). The KDE developpers have for a long time now been light years ahead of their open source counterparts. It's good to see that with this release KOffice will finally gain the recognition that it deserves. And with the forthcoming release of KDE 3.2 next week, what more do you need on your open source desktop?

Re:This can only be a good thing (2, Insightful)

gr8_phk (621180) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104916)

Oh sure. When people use or try to improve GNOME, they are flamed because KDE is obviously superior and has won the competition. Yet KDE fans are supposed to support KOffice when clearly OpenOffice.org has won that competition.

FANatics...

RTF (2, Interesting)

Carnildo (712617) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104706)

Do they yet have a functional RTF import? That's the thing I've found missing from entirely too many Linux office suites and word processors.

Re:RTF (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104886)

Do they yet have a functional RTF import?
No, but I have working RTFM module as man pages viewer, if you are interested.

uhh.. first post? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104713)

no one's claimed it after like 2 minutes wtf.

this post claimed for (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104719)

the trollaxor.com crew and associates. Linux sucks sweaty nutsack.

Got .torrent? (1)

nocomment (239368) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104722)

Anyone have a .torrent for this? I imagine the server is going to slow down a lot. and to be a little offtopic...how do yo umake .torrents? Perhaps we can just make one? OR is that possible?

i like (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104726)

big balls in my mouth

i love you honey!!!

Is this Redundant? (3, Interesting)

mauriatm (531406) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104731)

So which should I use? KDE Based OpenOffice [openoffice.org] or KOffice?

Previous versions of KOffice left a lot to be desired. And I was finding OO a bit too sluggish on old computers. Abiword seemed to be pretty decent though.

Yes. (1, Redundant)

Sheetrock (152993) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104810)

There isn't much point in maintaining what (at best) will become two parallel projects trailing Microsoft Office development.

OpenOffice is in the lead as far as the feature set goes, and a lot of effort and energy has to go into a project like this. Optimally both teams should pool their resources and work on OpenOffice, given that it's a true cross-platform solution, and turn KOffice into an OpenOffice integration with KDE.

Re:Yes. (1)

jonathan_ingram (30440) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104878)

Once they switch to using the OpenOffice OASIS format as the default (which is the plan for the next version), then the choice between KOffice, OpenOffice, or StarOffice comes down to which of the respective user interfaces you prefer.

The use of K (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104732)

I am troubled by the use of K.

Don't these people realize that spelling words like contour with K is what racist rednecks do?

KOffice vs Open Office (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104733)

I find KO to be more user friendly and less buggy than OO. Too bad it lacks the MS compatibilty of OO for Power Point

Frist Post! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104737)

Eat it!

Thats good and all... (2, Funny)

cartzworth (709639) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104741)

...until MS gets their Office XML patents. :|

don't worry. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104960)

SCO will sue Microsoft for using their IP.

Yes, that's nice, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104742)

...can it detect land mines?

Re:Yes, that's nice, but... [MOD UP] (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104864)

Score: 8, Late

but he/she/it does make a valid point

I really enjoy KDE thanks for the great job people (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104743)

I have to admit that KDE is getting better and better with every release. It's good to see that the leading Open Source Desktop is having such a huge success. I like it's simplicity, easy to use. Not to mention that it's in many parts better than Microsoft WindowsXP or similar solutions.

GNOME is also a nice Desktop solution but has a very long way to reach the same functionality, integration, quality and easy to use as KDE offers today. The developers should start making it stable and usable for the endusers rather than 'hacking' around in it with no serious visible target for the enduser.

If only (1)

deliciousmonster (712224) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104747)

We could make the OS that runs the fully supportive suite more like Windows... without the penchant for taking in trojan horses and attempting to destroy it's user base, of course...

Speculation (4, Interesting)

daeley (126313) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104753)

On a Mac OS X note, I'm hoping the speculation is true, that Apple might do with KOffice what it did with Konq/Safari and turn it into the next generation of AppleWorks.

Re:Speculation (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104999)

Since KOffice is GPL, they would be forced to open the source code to their entire application. It couldn't be where they take the LGPL KHTML and link things to it, only publishing the changes to the core KHTML. Thus, Linux would benefit from having an "Apple-quality" office suite. Apple is most likely reluctant to pour many hours into GPL code... which others could copy to neutralize the gain on the Apple platform. But even if it did become a standard across PC and Mac, it would be better than having MS control the Mac productivity suite. Then, Apple would be controlling both worlds... similar to iTunes/Quicktime/etc. (of course, a QT port to windows has yet to be seen, and since QT is GPL'd... commercial QT applications must pay for a license. You don't have to buy a license for even MS application development. We really need a LGPL'd QT implementation)

Damn monopolists (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104755)

I hope the Department of Justice investigates the damn Kompany and their practices of bundling KOffice with KDE. Such practice should be forbidden as consumers are left with no choice and Kompany sheds out the competition, driving OpenOffice, Sun and Microsoft from lucrative market represented by KDE users.

What are people's opinions. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104757)

And - how does this compare to MS's offering?

Frist Psot!! (-1, Offtopic)

cgh4be (182894) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104759)

Yay!

The fact that the front page didn't update quickly (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104888)

does nothing to change the fact that YOU FAIL IT.

HOW DOES IT FEEL, FAGGOT? HOW DOES IT FEEL TO HAVE SO COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY FAILED IT? DOES IT MAKE YOU FEEL LIKE THE FUCKING GAY FAGGOT FAILURE THAT YOU ARE?

I'm sorry, that was out of line. I shouldn't yell at complete strangers like that. It's just that I get bored sitting in this office all day, you know, reading slashdot and being a gay homofag and all. So I'd like to apologize for my statements there.

YOU FUCKING ASSMUNCHING FAGGOT ASS BITCH MOTHERFUCKER.

Whee (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104762)

First post!

MOLDY TOLDY (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104770)

AND SOME SAUCERS THAT FLEW IN FROM SPACEe!!!!!! ass face you flying to space? you know where to land, no? yes, roger. i communicate back to you my coordinates. you tell my spacecraft where 2 land. once i have landed, i tell u bout what i see. the things i see, k? then u ask me if i'm okay. i deliver you a stinky message: words of fart.

Frist (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104771)

Spot

wasted effort? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104787)

Why don't they combine their skills with openoffice.org, instead of suffering from the bone-headed 'not invented here' syndrome? That way we could take the best of both office suites and get something really good, instead of fragmenting the competition against M$ Office.

Powerpoint (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104791)

KOffice 1.3's presenter offers much improved support for powerpoint features than previous versions. However, good support for links and enter/exit effects is still lacking. The inability to play powerpoint presentations reliably on anything but powerpoint is keeping us locked to MS Office and Windows.

Re:Powerpoint (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104854)

OOo 1.1 doesn't do links to other presentations correctly either. It opens the other presentation in the editing view... even while the presentation is playing. So, if you are playing presentation 1 and link to presentation 2... presentation 2 must be started manually! Talk about embarassment. It doesn't support all enterance effects and has no exit effect support. So, you really are locked to MS office.

MikeRoweSoft! (1, Funny)

Pro_Piracy_Guy (699942) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104801)

"KOffice is a light-weight yet feature rich office solution and provides a variety of filters to interoperate with other popular office suites such as OpenOffice.org and Microsoft Office."

They just used MikeRoweSoft in a sentence!!! Sue, them!! Sue, them!! Quickly!!

I don't quite get... (5, Interesting)

deitel99 (533532) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104805)

"Especially the support for Microsoft Word 95 and Microsoft Word 97 documents has become much better."

I'm no expert, but considering OpenOffice can already open these file formats quite well (they are old), why does KOffice lag behind? I can understand difficulty in writing these files, but for reading them it shouldn't be nearly as difficult. They wouldn't have to reverse engineer the formats from scratch; they can simply read using the method from the GPLed OpenOffice code. Why the difference exactly?

omg!!!!!111 (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104815)

i'm getting laid tonight!!!!! first time in 4 1/2 years!!! holy shit!!!! i can't fucking believe this.. i'm actually going to FUCK!!! :-D

can't wait to eat her snatch

Re:omg!!!!!111 (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104928)

fuck her first, so her snatch is nice and juicy and creamie.

Re:omg!!!!!111 (0, Troll)

NorthDude (560769) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104938)

If it's been 4.5 years since the last time, beware the premature ejaculation dude...

Re:omg!!!!!111 (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104947)

4 1/2 years, huh? I'm forced to ask:

Which is better? Never getting laid at all, or getting laid only once and knowing that you've hit your high point and that it will never be as good again?

Of course, this is probably the wrong place to ask this question, since 99% of /.ers fall into the former category, and hence can't offer an unbiased answer.

not slashtrek (-1)

(TK)Max (668795) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104829)

SLASHTREK, THE NEXT MASTURBATION
a screenplay from the library of Trollkore.

SCENE 1: ABOARD THE STARSHIP ENTERPRISE - A worried L.T. Commander Data addresses Captain Picard.

Data: Captain, sensors indicate a de-cloaking Slashdot ship one hundred meters off the starboard bow.

Picard: On screen!

Worf: Captain! We are dealing with a highly idiotic, ignorant and Linux-using species. They have been known to attack those who have superior social skills and official Microsoft qualifications in computer literacy out of fear and confusion - I recommend we attack them before they do us!

Picard: That is not the way the federation do things, Mr. Worf. When dealing with such mindless slashbots there is only one course of action to take. Ensign Wheaton hail the Slashdot ship.

Wheaton: Yes sir... but are these slashbots really so bad, according to my knowledge the open source community is a highly developed and sophisticated race of people - it would be unfair to discriminate against them just because of their foul stench and greasy complexion.

Picard: Shut up Wesley!!!

Data: The Slashdot ship has responded to our hail.

Picard: On screen.

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CMDRTACO: Then it is agreed, your safe passage through our space in exchange for the image. End Transmission.

--- The view screen turns off and TACO looks over to his first mate, CowboyNeal.

CMDRTACO: Put the image on main screen.... I wish to ejaculate.

Koffice 1.3 Release? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104830)

Can they DO that?

Surprising... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104838)

Okay, so. Last time I checked out KWord and friends, they lacked features, were kinda crashy, etc. And that last time wasn't SO long ago (about a year or so).

So just -HOW- did they manage to make the whole KOffice thing become fast, efficient and pleasant to use in just a few releases? I swear, it's the first time I'm having fun using an office suit... Anyone who's been following the development (I haven't, sorry) care to explain? Did some company contribute money and/or code?

Yes, Until... (1)

TechnologyX (743745) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104844)

...interoperate with other popular office suites such as OpenOffice.org and Microsoft Office.. Until Microsoft nails down their XML patent, then see how fast that KOffice suddenly stops working with MSOffice. :/

Will it work? (0)

iaredam (719465) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104845)

Will this new release finally be able to open M$ Wordperfect files? If they could accomplish that it would be great, I know that M$ office cannot even open the files appropriately, If open source could do this it would be great. If they could come up with a gui front end to an sql server we could get rid of office altogether (The other people don't want to learn SQL, just access)

KOffice is sweet ready for the Apple picking (5, Interesting)

LibrePensador (668335) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104851)

Were Apple to do for Koffice what they did for Khtml, and why wouldn't they, the KDE suite of applications would be very much complete.

Koffice, even if it doesn't attract all the attention of OpenOffice, is light-weight and architecturally sound. Koffice 1.3 is almost there, it just needs a little bit of loving care.

If you are convinced that Apple could be interested in Koffice, consider this.

*Qt applications can run natively under OS X.

*The Mac port of OpenOffice is seriously understaffed and very much behind.

* Koffice's code, due to its componentization, is much easier to maintain and to learn.

*It helps Apple maintain its open source credibility, an intangible asset, but one that shouldn't be dismissed.

*It provides a good trump card against Microsoft or at least some leverage to make sure that they continue to put out a Microsoft Office for the Mac.

*It gives Apple greater control over their destiny, which is one of the main reasons why they created Safari.

---Flame retardant suit is on!

Lightweight ? (1, Insightful)

koh (124962) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104853)

And what exactly do you call a "lightweight" office suite ?

Any office suite without the clippy thing ? ;)

pdf read/write support (5, Interesting)

esarjeant (100503) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104862)

"Also new is the ability to import PDF files into KWord and make changes to the document. Support for Microsoft document- formats has improved as well."

Haven't tried it yet, but this feature definitely peaks my interest.

XML Based importing (1)

mobiux (118006) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104869)

Any ideas as to how the open source office apps will be dealing with MS's new patented XML file formats?

filters (1)

child_of_mercy (168861) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104877)

So how good are the word import filters?

I deal with a huge variety of word docs every day and any dev team that asks i can send the ones that barf, but I'm yet to have any of them take up my offer.

Re: my-kingdom-for-a-wordperfect-import-filter (2, Interesting)

Florian (2471) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104881)

Well, KWord has a WordPerfect import filter.

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MS Filters (2, Insightful)

Krafty Koder (697396) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104892)

"the support for Microsoft Word 95 and Microsoft Word 97 documents has become much better." Guys (and girls) in the KOffice team - i'm not interested in those formats. I'm a KOffice fan big time, but I want MS Office 2000 filters at the very least. May I suggest that instead of adding features, the team focuses on filters for the next release. I can't understand why this hasnt been done - especially since OpenOffice can do it. I love the speed of KOffice on KDE - but I'm still stuck with OO as a result of this MS filter issue.

Openoffice file format (1)

debrain (29228) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104894)

So when is KOffice going to natively use the OpenOffice.org (OASIS?) file format? ... Google came up a little short on this for me.

Re:Openoffice file format (2, Informative)

inc_x (589218) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104959)

It's planned for KOffice 1.4 David Faure is part of the OASIS TC for the OO standard format.

Timing (1)

TekZen (611640) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104895)

KDE had said the KOffice 1.3 would not be a part of the KDE 3.2 release because KOffice would not be ready in time.

Now KOffice 1.3 is released and KDE 3.2 is on the first (and hopefully last) release candidate of the 3.2.0 branch.

-Jackson

Looking for an open Office Suite? (1)

Mod Me God Too (687245) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104902)

Why should I choose KOffice, or OpenOffice. Having a choice is great (and most Linux/XWindows systems will accomodate both) but why should I choose one over the other?

How long until ... (1)

Dukael_Mikakis (686324) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104906)

We get something like KWindows and Microsoft sues? I'm surprised that they haven't gotten in a fit already over their trademarking "Office" (or is the Trademark Microsoft Office).

Hopefully everything will have been streamlined so that the importing and extension compatibility won't be an issue.

Though I may not be entirely proud of it, though, I've done most of my word processing (i.e. Office(TM) work) in Windows in your standard MS software suite, using emacs and vi for scripting and pounding out txt files, but I've been looking for a reason to jump ship to a Linux Office Suite (old KOffice wasn't as streamlined as I'd have wanted, and I've always worried about file compatibility)

The only thing that still concerns me is that it feels like Microsoft could suddenly, spontaneously create a new file format .MSOnly or something and then all the other word processors would be stuck trying to implement support for it (not that it would be so easy to do, or would even happen). What's going to happen if MS does create some new file format? I wouldn't put it past them.

Clueless semi-N00B question... (2, Interesting)

Eberlin (570874) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104911)

Ok, so I admit it (and continue to do so) -- I run Red Hat 9. Not exactly the KDE-loving distro out there. I feel like I lose out on a lot of the KDE goodness since I don't get a lot of KDE-related apps over RPM (nor APT for RPM).

What method is the easiest, most convenient way to get KDE stuff running on my machine? I always figured compiling from source and solving dependencies would be one of the final options. Not that I haven't done that before...as I try to mangle back some geek cred. I've also heard of an automation process that does the whole source thing but am not sure how well it works)

I'm looking for stuff like K3B, Komba (currently run nautilus:smb but it crawls), the latest KDE itself, Quanta, and maybe I'll try KOffice again (been using OOo 1.0)

I like my KDE but haven't brought myself to procuring downloadable ISOs of KDE-Friendlier distros. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one in this predicament.

MS Office Compatibility (0)

nil5 (538942) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104913)

I've used this in the past and I'll have to try the latest version, but what has really been the nail in the coffin to KOffice and OO has been being able to open and save MS Office files. I know they say there are filters, but how often do they REALLY work?

Seriously, I have my dobuts about this one.

Everyone knows that when the next version of MS Office comes out it will likely break even the latest versions of KOffice and OO

my 2c.

where are all the posts? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104915)

This article has been up for nearly 2 minutes and there isn't yet a single person screaming, "HA HA HA!! I have the first post!! " What's going on?

Is this an Apple product? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104917)

If not, why is this post here? Everyone knows if it isn't from Apple, then it sucks.

Does it run on Ninnle Linux? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104918)

Quick question: have binaries been made for Ninnle Linux yet? I can't find them on the official server, but if anyone has any pointers I'd be incredibly grateful.

Ninnle Linux rocks, and KOffice on it will be even better!

I'm a Republican (A poem) (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104921)

Oh, I'm a Republican
I got a small schling
I like to bomb niggahs
and make a lot o' bling

I got a bunch o' friends
in high up places
They helps me get dem
government graces.

You think I'm smart
I just know who's who
I couldn't run a fruit stand
without the red white & blue

I fancy myself
A brilliant tactician
But neither me nor m'buddies
Could even pass basic trainin'

See, I'm above all that
A fightin' and shootin'
I just say "Sic em!"
Then run the other direction

Don't need no history
Don't need no schoolin'
I got my ideology
To keep me a shootin'

Liberals! Faggots!
Commies and queers!
Socialist hippies
Full o' pussy tears!

I'll drop some crap
about Jesus the Christ
You'll buy it all
and vote for me twice

'Fact, Jesus is comin'!
Real soon, now!
So we gotta prop up Israel
That ol' sacred cow

Propaganda's m'friend
But I calls it "fact"
Even though I don't read
'Cept for Chick tracts

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too little, too late (-1, Redundant)

jbellis (142590) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104926)

nothing against KOffice -- a few years ago it was the best of the open source office suites -- but with openoffice improving so fast now a desktop-specific suite seems unnecessary.

knee-jerk "choice" replies will be ignored. :)

I WANT TO PUT MY POO POO IN YOUR PEE PEE HOLE (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104944)

and it is probably a bloated piece of shit too (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104963)

OK, there is a principle of software development that was totally overlooked in these types of applications - don't make your software grow just because you assume users will have the most updated fastest computer. we've seen it in ms internet explorer how it grows to fit the available disk space, but hey, at least you can get ms office products that WILL work on a p100 with 16 megs of RAM.

OTOH, maybe the open source model will catch up and at least it is a free piece of software that theoretically does a lot of stuff.

Will TrollTech be the next SCO? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8104976)

Ow.

While I was developing, my code made a LGPL library call, and it somehow managed to call a routine in the GPL Qt library, but I don't use KDE, and never flagged it for install on my distro.

Now my Kompany is on the hook for $1550 to TrollTech, plus damages. Damn lawyers.

And I thought my distro was free software. I could have bought VS and W2K pro for this amount of money, and at least I would have known my rights up front.

Just Kidding. Joking. This didn't really happen, but I wonder if it could?

Koffice? (0, Offtopic)

Gizzmonic (412910) | more than 10 years ago | (#8104992)

That is not the type of thing I would ejaculate on!

Damn, 17 seconds got me. I probably won't get FP now. I should give up!

No, dammit! No! I must have faith!

My opinion (1, Interesting)

W32.Klez.A (656478) | more than 10 years ago | (#8105001)

This is great. Every advancement of Open Source technologies makes me eager for the day that we see Microsoft as just another competitor, rather than a huge beast crushing everything in its path.

I haven't tried it yet, but as far as how things have been going in the Open Source communities, I'm pretty sure I won't be disappointed.

Off Topic: what is wrong with the server? (1, Offtopic)

Espectr0 (577637) | more than 10 years ago | (#8105002)

I have been given 5 points, i used them, then i got them again, sometimes the post count is 0, and as you can see i am replying in a post i already moderated

Will this work on OS X? (1)

FireBreathingDog (559649) | more than 10 years ago | (#8105007)

I know I should RTFA, but I am a lazy OS X user (this is a true statement--not flamebait--comprised of two separate but not mutually exlusive facts: I am a Mac OS X user and I am lazy), so my question is:

Can I get KOffice to run on OS X? What do I need to use? Apple's X11 plus KDE?

Thanks in advance to anyone who wishes to do my own work and research for me.

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