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Top Ten Handhelds That Didn't Make It?

simoniker posted more than 10 years ago | from the game-dot-comical dept.

Portables (Games) 114

Decaffeinated Jedi writes "Over at GameSpy, they're running a feature looking at the top ten handhelds that never made it. Included on the list are such 'favorites' as the Atari Lynx and the more recent Nokia N-Gage, as well as commentary by the GameSpy editors on why these portables failed to set the gaming world on fire."

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Did I not? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8115265)

Did I not fail it again? -scc

Re:Did I not? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8115483)

YOU DID NOT FAIL IT

so well done, and keep it up.

YOU FAILED (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8118820)

In not failing it. You suck.

did i make first post? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8115271)

did I ?1!?

The Turbo Express (5, Interesting)

BFedRec (257522) | more than 10 years ago | (#8115366)

I have two of these and a TV tuner for each. The Turbo express was bar none the best portable video game machine until the GBA SP. It's ONLY drawback was the power consumption. The games were great on it and the screen is amazing. Not much can beat Blazing Lazers on that thing, good classic schmup action.

Granted I may be biased because I loved my TG-16, having purchased it myself in 8th grade (I think it was 8th grade). I was begging for one, as I was in the know and knew all about how good the PC Engine was doing in Japan. My mom sarcastically remarked that if I could pay for it myself I could have one... which of course sounded like a challenge to me. So I took my allowance money and bought cheap candy and snacks to sell from my desk at school for a profit and after about 3 months I managed to pull together the $200 needed. The TG-16 is one of the most under-rated systems of all times I think. There were some crappy games for it, but there were also some incredibly GOOD games for it as well (Bonk, Blazing Lazers, Legendary Axe, Chew-Man-Fu, etc), AND it was the first video game system to offer a CDRom drive.... ahh the good old days.

CharlesP

Re:The Turbo Express (3, Interesting)

jpmoney (323533) | more than 10 years ago | (#8117745)

A friend of mine had a Turbo Duo back in the day that he worked his arse off for... and it was definately worth it. The TG-16 was a great system and its too bad it didn't do well.

And now they're bringing back Bonk [ign.com] !

Re:The Turbo Express (3, Interesting)

feed_those_kitties (606289) | more than 10 years ago | (#8117916)

I also have one with the TV tuner. I use it more as a portable TV than as a portable game system. The TV picture is really quite good for such a small screen!

Re:The Turbo Express (2, Informative)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 10 years ago | (#8118006)

"It's ONLY drawback was the power consumption."

It was also too big. I used to have one of these, and it was a bitch carrying it around.

Gamespy at it again? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8115369)

These guys will write anything to convince their readers they know what they're talking about.

The list both the Gamegear and Wonderswan, both of which are/were solid systems. The gamegear sold quite a number of units when it was released, and gave some decent competition to the Gameboy. The wonderswan is still going stron in Japan.

What exactly qualifies as "making it" for these guys? By their measurements the only systems that ever "made it" were the GBA and gameboy. The latter being 10+ years old, which is a phenomenon in itself, and the former just happening to be the only handheld currently available in the US. (That Ngage thing is not real). ;)

Re:Gamespy at it again? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8115462)

The gamegear sold quite a number of units when it was released, and gave some decent competition to the Gameboy.
And yet it was still crushed by the Game Boy.
The wonderswan is still going stron in Japan.
No, it isn't. Outselling the Xbox every now and then isn't really a huge achievement in Japan.

Re:Gamespy at it again? (1)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 10 years ago | (#8119011)

"And yet it was still crushed by the Game Boy."

That doesn't mean it wasn't a success. It just wasn't the winner. Sega still made a healthy chunk of change from it.

Re:Gamespy at it again? (2, Insightful)

PainKilleR-CE (597083) | more than 10 years ago | (#8115562)

What exactly qualifies as "making it" for these guys? By their measurements the only systems that ever "made it" were the GBA and gameboy. The latter being 10+ years old, which is a phenomenon in itself, and the former just happening to be the only handheld currently available in the US. (That Ngage thing is not real). ;)

Maybe being successful enough for the company to be willing to expend more money in the market before discontinuing the product? I only knew one person with a GameGear, and one person (other than myself) with a Lynx. Bandai (WonderSwan) for one reason or another gave up when the GBA came out.

I was never particularly fond of the GameBoy, and the GBA-SP is the first handheld I really think Nintendo's done a good job on, but I've at least been able to admit that no one, for one reason or another, has been able to compete with them, yet.

Re:Gamespy at it again? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8117836)

"Making it," for these guys, involves being in near-equal opposition to the top competitor in the United States. Of course, that's quite a stupid, small-minded way of thinking about things - par for the course for the pseudo-intellectual numbwits of Gamespy.

Gamespy deserves to fold, and its contributors deserve to get lifetime employment at EB, pontificating out loud (to any customers that will listen to them) on the stupid things that EB employees are wont to do.

Re:Gamespy at it again? (1)

dewie (685736) | more than 10 years ago | (#8118672)

Speaking as a Game Gear owner, the gg was never a serious competitor for the Gameboy. Sure, it had the advantage of a colour display, but this was far outweighed by its disadvantages, ie its battery life (lives slightly longer than a mayfly!) and size (slightly smaller than a camel!).

Another name for the article could be (4, Informative)

lightspawn (155347) | more than 10 years ago | (#8115374)

"Top Ten non-Nintendo handhelds".

It's just that there are very few (multi-game) handhelds, so most of them are in there.

In summary: battery life is much, much more important that anybody would think. Nintendo got lucky with its B/W (actually green/gray) display that required relatively little battery life and the popular franchises didn't hurt any.

Oh, and the Lynx's ultrathick design gives me cramps after playing certain games for only a few minutes.

Maybe this is a market with only enough room for one mainstream system?

Re:Another name for the article could be (5, Insightful)

funny-jack (741994) | more than 10 years ago | (#8115505)

lightspawn said:
Maybe this is a market with only enough room for one mainstream system?

I rather doubt that. Considering that the market is (arguably) supporting three home consoles, whose prices are all more than the GBA, I would say that the market is there for another great handheld. The problem is just that no company has released a great handheld to compete with Nintendo's GameBoy. I think it takes a number of factors for a handheld to be great. Long battery life, comfort, compactness, and great games are probably the most important. The problem with many of these other handhelds is that they have focused on flashy graphics and sound to the detriment of some of the more important factors. That's what I think, anyway.

Re:Another name for the article could be (2, Insightful)

Acidic_Diarrhea (641390) | more than 10 years ago | (#8115754)

Yes, the home console market is supporting 3 consoles. Why do you bring this fact up when arguing that the portable market can support more than 1 portable system? The two are not interchangable and I don't believe everyone who plays games on a console is a guaranteed sell for a portable game system as well.

The two markets are related but also different so I don't believe you can jump to such a conclusion based on your evidence.

Re:Another name for the article could be (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8119023)

One of these days we simply must discuss your toilet training.

Re:Another name for the article could be (1)

Zed2K (313037) | more than 10 years ago | (#8116289)

I think we'll see big competition between sony and nintendo when sony releases its portable. I'm looking forward to seeing nintendo knocked back a little to shock it awake in the portable department. I've got an SP but I would love to have a more powerful device. Competition is the only thing that will make that happen.

Game Gear (4, Interesting)

swat_r2 (586705) | more than 10 years ago | (#8115416)

I have a special place in my heart for two handhelds in particular, the Game Gear and the Turbo Express.

When I was younger and without a steady source of income I would always dream about owning the Holy Grail of handhelds, the Turbo Express. Running on the same cards as the TG16, being able to play Bonk's Adventure and Splatter House wherever you went, and on top of it all, a bright beautiful color screen and TV tuner add-on? Pure Bliss. I think I still have the drool marks on my old copies of Gamepro.

With the Game Gear, I ended up buying one cheap at a Thrift Store last year. Even with the grainy, dated screen and lack of saving games it provided some great, cheap entertainment. Very underrated, and it's next to impossible to find the games around town, but I managed to find some great ones for around $5-$7. Battery power was another issue :)

There's something about being young and owning a portable system. It's almost a sense of freedom from the parents, saying I can play this however and wherever I want, you can't kick me off the TV! I look at my son with his GBA and can't help sensing the familiarity, and how he'd rather play his GBA with the dated SNES-Era graphics than with the Xbox or PS2. Because "he's" in control.

And with the systems mentioned in the article, it's hard to imagine how Nintendo cornered the market. Being underpowered and going head to head with Color-LCD back in the day was quite a feat, and I give the companies credit for trying to steal some market share from the Big 'N'. I think Sony will have a viable chance with the PSP and for the first time in a long time I have been excited about owning a handheld again, let's just hope the price is decent :)

Re:Game Gear (1)

dyarid (732794) | more than 10 years ago | (#8116099)

The Game Gear kicked ass. I don't see why it's on the "Never made it" list since it had a 6 year life span. A successful console is lucky to make it 6 years these days.

Re:Game Gear (1)

swat_r2 (586705) | more than 10 years ago | (#8116373)

Exactly. It's almost like this article is a list of portable console's that weren't number one. Which is literally every other portable out there. Oh well, it's a nice (?) nostalgia piece.

Re:Game Gear (1)

CFTM (513264) | more than 10 years ago | (#8116910)

I remember getting a Turbo Express for Christmas. It came with Bonks Adventure and I also got some game that was somewhat similar to contra but for the life of me I don't remember what it was called. I remember the thing was damn heavy too, although I think I was in 4th Grade at the time so I doubt I was very strong ... not to mention it was also really thick especially compared to the gameboy, although the gameboy was a piece of crap :) I'm sure I still have the old thing stashed away somewhere in my parents house, I forgot about it until I read about this. Great system ...

Re:Game Gear (1)

FortissimoWily (703397) | more than 10 years ago | (#8117137)

"I think Sony will have a viable chance with the PSP and for the first time in a long time I have been excited about owning a handheld again, let's just hope the price is decent :)"
Myself, I don't think Sony will have a very big chance, considering the PSP is going to cost between $350 to $450, as opposed to the GBA at about $70, and the Nintendo DS at $150 or thereabouts.

Sony (1)

swat_r2 (586705) | more than 10 years ago | (#8117480)

I am by no means a Sony fanboy, I held out as long as possible to buy a PS2 (and still think it's weak in comparison to the other consoles, but hey.. exclusives!) But I really think that Sony has enough marketing power and brand recognition to be a contender. I doubt that Sony could ever upset Nintendo's handheld dominance, but having a number two is always welcome in my opinion, it can happen with home consoles can't it?

The gamer generation has shifted, yes there are a large number of kids with handhelds, but there are a lot of Gen-X's like myself who grew up with games and want a more sophisticated machine than a Pokemon Advance. (Yes I do own/love a GBA SP as well, but really it's only purpose is for the FFTA-Like Strategy games)

I'm hoping the hacker community will find a way to rip this thing apart when it hits, imagine an all purpose handheld (Like GP32/Tapwave) with those specs? It'll be like Xbox/DC all over again.

On another bad note, I'm not too thrilled about paying $50 for a neutered PS2 port - there has to be original, exclusive, non-rushed, specifically-designed games for the PSP.

Re:Sony (1)

TechniMyoko (670009) | more than 10 years ago | (#8118890)

It appears you havent heard, for the first year or so, Sony has banned PS2 ports

Re:Game Boy (2, Insightful)

Absurd Being (632190) | more than 10 years ago | (#8119035)

Nintendo probably cornered the market with 3 things. Battery life, price, and later, backwards compatability. How can you compete with a system that launches with a library of 1000 games? Helped out Sony a little with the PS2 at launch too.

Oh, and we can't forget a legion of brainwashed Nintendo Power subscribers, back in the day.

Re:Game Boy (1)

Incoherent07 (695470) | more than 10 years ago | (#8120476)

Me? A brainwashed Nintendo Power subscriber? Naw. I was in the SUPER POWER CLUB, which gave you such exciting benefits as... uh... a couple of videos which were thinly disguised ads, and a catalog where I could give them more money, and trading cards with cheat codes on them.

Re:Game Gear (1)

prockcore (543967) | more than 10 years ago | (#8119490)

I think I still have the drool marks on my old copies of Gamepro.

Somewhere around here I still have a clipping from VG&CE (the best game magazine ever) that was announcing the Turbo Express.. damn I wanted that thing so bad.

Every now and then I think about picking one up off of ebay.

So... (1)

BTWR (540147) | more than 10 years ago | (#8115425)

Did anyone else get from this article that it was basically an article actually titled "just about every one of the 10 handhelds that were available in the last 15 years (except nintendo)... which includes one from the late 70's most have never heard of?"

Re:So... (1)

foistboinder (99286) | more than 10 years ago | (#8115513)

which includes one from the late 70's most have never heard of?"

Microvision: I actually had one of those.

Re:So... (2, Insightful)

Decaffeinated Jedi (648571) | more than 10 years ago | (#8117222)

Along similar lines, it seemed particularly odd that the Virtual Boy wasn't included on the list.

Re:So... (1)

_Sexy_Pants_ (703751) | more than 10 years ago | (#8119418)

I thought about it, the Virtual Boy isn't exactly "Handheld".

A bit too early to pull the plug on NGage (1)

dk.r*nger (460754) | more than 10 years ago | (#8115615)

It hasn't reached a break through yet, but why not?

Phone and PDA is melting into one, giving you the pocket room of one gadget less. Ericsson tried this way back (think, like, 2000) with the fiasco R380 (IIRC). Smartphone are (still) a hot potato.

NGage came out last year, and .. well .. give it some time. The idea might catch on when the child diseases are fixed and the next generation NGage hits the streets.

Re:A bit too early to pull the plug on NGage (1)

RaboKrabekian (461040) | more than 10 years ago | (#8116144)

The idea might catch on when the child diseases are fixed and the next generation NGage hits the streets.

Maybe, the idea is a great one, but I think you're more likely to see cell phones in general progress to the point where they can play advanced games, rather than a gamesystem with a cell phone component tacked on be successful.

Re:A bit too early to pull the plug on NGage (1)

BTWR (540147) | more than 10 years ago | (#8116166)

you may be right (seriously), but I didn't think consoles work like that. I'm pretty sure NES, Genesis, SNES, Playstation and Gameboy were all popular from their launches. I can't think of a sucessful console that wasn't sucessful at launch and then later was.

Re:A bit too early to pull the plug on NGage (1)

Zed2K (313037) | more than 10 years ago | (#8116227)

I think one of the biggest reasons NGage will fail and all other devices that merge phone and game: air travel. You CANNOT use an ngage or other phone that plays games on a plane. Even if you turn the phone part off. They will still make you put it away. It says in the back under what devices are allowable and specifically says phones used to play games.

Re:A bit too early to pull the plug on NGage (1)

dk.r*nger (460754) | more than 10 years ago | (#8116862)

I think one of the biggest reasons NGage will fail and all other devices that merge phone and game: air travel.

The Sony/Ericsson P{8,9}00 smartphones, and at least a few others, support an Airplane mode that shuts the RF and Bluetooth parts entirely off, while operating the rest of the features.

Scandinavian Airlines has seen the light, and allows these on (in the airplane-mode, obviously) during flight. Many more airlines will follow soon, due to popular demand..

Re:A bit too early to pull the plug on NGage (1)

Troed (102527) | more than 10 years ago | (#8122425)

The Ericsson R380 wasn't a fiasco, and the successors P800 and P900 from Sony Ericsson are selling extremely well. Why on earth should I carry around both a PDA and a phone when my P800 does it all so well?

Re:A bit too early to pull the plug on NGage (1)

dk.r*nger (460754) | more than 10 years ago | (#8123386)

The Ericsson R380 wasn't a fiasco

Besides not working (the tap-display) and being discontinued by the manufacturer within a year, IIRC, no, I presume not ;)

Why on earth should I carry around both a PDA and a phone when my P800 does it all so well?

Well, you shouldn't.. Just as you won't carry a GameBoy and a cellphone when your [insert future edition of NGage] does both well.

Cybiko (1)

SilverThorn (133151) | more than 10 years ago | (#8115724)

Something from the mid 90's was a product & company called Cybiko. Though it was a nice idea, the handheld item was (and still is) very expensive and the games... well honestly... sucked. Website: http://www.cybikoxtreme.com/

Re:Cybiko (2, Informative)

Zerth (26112) | more than 10 years ago | (#8115981)

I never bought the "extreme" version, but the original one was dang spiffy. Yes, the games sucked since they were turned out by underemployed russians, but it came with a C compiler so you could always write your own. I even got the mp3 attachment, although that was mostly for the extra storage space, rather than wanting to use it as an mp3 player. It had a decent text reader and could hold several dozen books in the mp3 player's memory. Oddly, I don't use it much now, because the mp3 player's memory seems to have gone south and the internal disk only holds like half a book.

Re:Cybiko (1)

c.emmertfoster (577356) | more than 10 years ago | (#8116736)

My brother has one of those.

I've always thought of it as a glorified TI-85 that can play a bunch of really lame games and needed a HUGE community to make work.

Re:Cybiko (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8118910)

I picked up one of these recently for next to nothing (not the extreme one though). Clearly I didn't expect much, but finding that one of the NiMH batteries it uses had leaked and was now useless means I can't run it without the AC adapter. I could track down some F6 NiMH's, but at $6/each it's not too tempting.

Lynx rule (1)

superpulpsicle (533373) | more than 10 years ago | (#8115792)

Nothing was better than california games on the lynx. It was the greatest thing at the time.

I was dying to try the sega nomad and no one in the remote vicinity of 100 miles I know had this.

For the longest time gameboy had the ugliest graphics alive. They are lucky to have released GB color and advanced to compete with PSP when it comes out.

N-Gage Ads (0, Offtopic)

Ianing (715094) | more than 10 years ago | (#8115794)

Looks like the N-Gage ads on Gamespy are over and Gamespy can come out and rip on it some more... Untill Nokia throws them some money and they become best friends again.

Where is the VirtualBoy in this listing? (1)

Ayanami Rei (621112) | more than 10 years ago | (#8116045)

I think it beats out the Milton Bradley bullshit item.

Re:Where is the VirtualBoy in this listing? (1)

Zed2K (313037) | more than 10 years ago | (#8116198)

I don't know if you can consider virtualboy a portable game system though. It is more in line with the Vectrix.

Re:Where is the VirtualBoy in this listing? (1)

imperator_mundi (527413) | more than 10 years ago | (#8118403)

I have to agree, it was a little too large [silicium.org] ... actually it was no more "portable" than the portable dreamcast [cheatheaven.co.uk] , but well this is really an example of exotic hardware ;-)

I somehow found this really sad (4, Insightful)

falcon5768 (629591) | more than 10 years ago | (#8116111)

It's almost funny to think of it now, but in the early 1990s, Sega was an extremely aggressive competitor to Nintendo

Am I really THAT old to have not found it that funny... I mean it was a huge pissing contest between which you had, a sega or a nintendo and which was better.... how is it shocking that Sega used to be a competitor??? Because they dont exist as a system maker???? Using that logic is like saying its hysterical that Atari owned the marked untill 81!!!!

Im 23 and I remeber getting a 2600, Nintendo and Super NES for christmas... I even remeber when the Playstation came out, do young people REALLY not know the history of video games???? :-\

Well, it's not funny Ha-Ha funny - (1)

hudsonhawk (148194) | more than 10 years ago | (#8116452)

More funny like epilepsy.

Long live the Dreamcast.

Re:I somehow found this really sad (3, Interesting)

k_187 (61692) | more than 10 years ago | (#8116899)

Sadly no they don't. There have been a huge influx of gamers since the playstation generation, and in a lot of ways, I think they're the reason that games just aren't as good anymore. How many people are buying PS2s or xboxes (xboxen?) for games like Disgaea, or Ico or all the other games that are great yet don't sell like they should. The gaming market is Madden and anything that's a sequel right now. Flash and marketing are what rules the roost. They don't have the history that older gamers have. Sigh, some people just don't remember what it was like to get a game every 6 months and like it, even when you slave away for your allowance to buy "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" for the NES. God, I sound crotchety, and I'm only 22!

Re:I somehow found this really sad (1)

falcon5768 (629591) | more than 10 years ago | (#8117167)

Its funny you said Disgaea cause my girlfriend just picked it up on recomendation of her game grrls community and has lost sleep to it... I was thinking the same thing though when i was watching that MTV special recently... unless it has flashy graphics or something they cant be bothered... it almost pisses me off the people who write off the first 6 FF games JUST cause they arnt in 3D... I mean GOD when did gameplay stop being important and pretty colors start? And considering half my SNES games came well AFTER the system was considered dead cause I finally made money by then to spend some on games... I know ALL too well the deal of scratching up pennys to buy a ATARI/NES/SNES/GB game. Yet funny enough I still play those games and my new 10 in one Atari Joystick game vrs FF X-2 which I am thinking of giving to my GF cause i cant stand it

Re:I somehow found this really sad (1)

DeadScreenSky (666442) | more than 10 years ago | (#8121228)

I am not sure I would say that any of the main FF games sold via the the 'merits' of their gameplay. That's because sometimes other things than gameplay are more important to people. That is okay with me, even if I wish games like Panzer Dragoon Orta, etc. would sell better. Storyline, setting, graphics (including the oft-overlooked art design), music/sound, are all important to people, too, and oftentimes they will compensate for lesser gameplay quality.

I mean, hell, even though Super Mario Bros. was a great game, the wonderful music probably helped quite a few sales.

Re:I somehow found this really sad (1)

ronfar (52216) | more than 10 years ago | (#8117044)

Well, remember, some of the gaming Websites like to think they helped kill Sega recently. So to them, laughing at Sega is good sport. I mean to us it would be sort of like tripping an old lady who used to be a gorgeous matinee idol into a ditch full of stagnant water and laughing at her as she flailed around, but to the some gaming Websites, it's good sport.

Now, I don't give the gaming sites credit for effectively killing off Sega (well, it is on life-support, not completely dead), that was caused by mismanagement on Sega's part. Sega was like one of these creative artist types that couldn't get his life together.

However, gaming sites used to trumpet both:

A. How Sega was doomed (to the point that it seemed like they were shouting, "just die already!") and B. How the market would be so much better off if Sega transformed into a multi-platform game company.

Well, they were right about Sega being doomed (more's the pity) but dead wrong about the multi-platform thing. All that has meant that if you love Sega's adult games you'd better own an X-Box and a PS2, and if you like Sega's family games you'd better own a Gamecube. And nothing is guaranteed unless you own all three systems (Skies of Arcadia? Dreamcast or Gamecube only, for example).

More importantly Sega's fortunes have continued to decline with key staff leaving and Sammy proceeding with its hostile takeover and stating that in the future Sega will "focus on the arcade." (Which sounds ominous to me.)

(Proud owner of Genesis/SegaCD, Nomad, and Dreamcast. I also have a 32X, but I don't take pride in it.)

Re:I somehow found this really sad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8117356)

I'm 27.

I remember getting the original Nintendo Entertainment Systems (NES). The Sega Master System wasn't that big a competitor then, it barely registered beyond being an "other"...

I do remember the pissing matches between the Sega Genesis and the Super Nintendo, though. Late middle and early highschool(early 90s)... this was before playing video games was "cool", so it was me and a bunch of my geeky friends talking smack back and forth about whatever system we had (people having more than one game system back then was a rarity in the circles I ran in) while playing good old fashioned pen and paper roll playing games...

Ah the memories.

Re:I somehow found this really sad (1)

zenintrude (462825) | more than 10 years ago | (#8120056)

this was before playing video games was "cool"

That's funny, since the Genesis was one of the first systems that the "cool" people could own, and not feel geeky about, because of it's fantastic conversions of the [then] most popular arcade fighting games and of course the best versions of the EA sports titles.

Re:I somehow found this really sad (1)

Millbuddah (677912) | more than 10 years ago | (#8122627)

Heh, I remember some of those pissing matches pretty well also. I remember when Mortal Kombat was released for both systems and the Sega fanboys touting the blood thus earning them a point. Then Street Fighter II came out and the SNES fanboys shouting from the rooftops about how they got the superior system. (Note: these events not in chronological order because I'm too old now to remember what happened when) Ahhh, good times. [ 2nd Note: I was a SNES fanboy myself :) ]

Re:I somehow found this really sad (2, Insightful)

MMaestro (585010) | more than 10 years ago | (#8118836)

do young people REALLY not know the history of video games???? :-\

Yes. As far as the majority of gamers are concerned, the SNES vs Genesis war was either nothing more than a blip in their real lives or they were too young to even realize it. Some modern gamers, at least the more vocal ones, tend to be whiny 13 year olds who think the PS2 is the greatest thing since their parents bought a HDTV and let them play games on it. I wouldn't be surprised if some gamers didn't even know that Atari was once a big competitor in the video game industry or simply know about E3 (E3 is basicly a media show, without the internet it'd be nothing but a marking of the month we get a momentary glut of gaming news in magazines.)

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH MICROVISION?!?! (2, Insightful)

Asprin (545477) | more than 10 years ago | (#8116207)


I actually had one of these when I was a kid and it r0Xored! It was the first hand-held with a dot-matrix display that used cartridges and therefore wasn't limited to one game, so I don't have any idea why it's on this list other than journalistic myopia.

Also, the article is factually incorrect in one place. The snap-on cartridge/faceplates didn't have a whole set of controls in the cartridge - that would be stupid and expensive. Instead, the device had a touchpad matrix of FLAT calculator-style button "areas" (like a Sinclair ZX81 or an Atari 400 keyboard) above the paddle on the base unit. The cartridge faceplate, supplying a decorated film that fit over this area, just functioned as an overlay, masking off the buttons you didn't need and labeling the ones you did. I'm not sure why GameSpy editors don't know this because they *SHOULD* have actually inspected physical units before reporting these facts and it's a technique that's been used elsewhere [atariage.com] .

Re:WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH MICROVISION?!?! (1)

foistboinder (99286) | more than 10 years ago | (#8117293)

Plus it lasted something like 3 years.

After reading this list, (0, Redundant)

Asprin (545477) | more than 10 years ago | (#8116274)


After reading this list, I conclude that it is dumb. Making a list of all the portables that *didn't* make it is the same as making a list of all the portables that *aren't* Nintendo GameBoy.

Sega * (2, Insightful)

TheRealMindChild (743925) | more than 10 years ago | (#8116293)

I can tell you something about some of those sega handhelds that made it on there....

Firstly, I never even knew the Nomad existed until well after its death. I didnt exactally live under a rock either. I know I would have saved my pennies for this, vs something like a gameboy.

Then we have the Game Gear. This one was more out in the open, but the true treasure of it was NEVER known by many people... that you could buy a $10 adapter and play your old Sega Master System games! Had my friends and I known this much earlier in its life, we ALL would have owned one.

Sega made good stuff. They just didnt know how to sell it.

Re:Sega * (1)

nuggetman (242645) | more than 10 years ago | (#8117586)

I remember oogling the foldout things that came w/ sega games that had a poster on one side and adverts for new stuff on the other side... the gamegear tv tuner was something i desperately wanted (and the gg to go w/ it)

they also had an infared controller i wanted

Re:Sega * (1)

prockcore (543967) | more than 10 years ago | (#8119880)

that you could buy a $10 adapter and play your old Sega Master System games! Had my friends and I known this much earlier in its life, we ALL would have owned one.

I knew this at the time, but still didn't buy it. Mainly because the Game Gear came out a year after I bought my Genesis.. and I, like a lot of people, took advantage of the amazing trade in deals going. Trade in 3 SMS games for 1 genesis game.

When the Game Gear came out, I didn't have any SMS games left.

Game Boy Light (2, Interesting)

Psykechan (255694) | more than 10 years ago | (#8116380)

One handheld gaming system that should have been listed was the Game Boy Light [vidgame.net] . It was basically a Game Boy Pocket with a built in backlight. It failed because Nintendo released it around the same time as they released the Game Boy Color. The GBL was not capable of playing the newer "Color" games and gamers were forced to chose between being able to play the newer games or being able to easily see their older games.

Nintendo wisely decided to not release the GBL outside of Japan. Unfortunately, this blunder may have made them think that the public wasn't willing to spend money on a backlit portable; something that they held fast on until their release of the Gameboy Advance SP.

Offtopic... when the Gameboy and the Lynx were released, I chose the Lynx camp and still have three of the systems: A Lynx, a Lynx II, and my self-modified Turbo Lynx which is overclocked to 1.5 times normal speed. (playing Stun Runner on it is a blast) Personally, I've always believed that the Gameboy prevailed simply due to the Tetris license and Nintendo's foresight to include it as a pack-in. The Lynx had an early lineup that was wonderful (Blue Lightning, Chip's Challenge, Gates of Zendocon) and put the Gameboy's games to shame but it did not have Tetris. The rest is history.

Hey... (0, Offtopic)

technopinion (469686) | more than 10 years ago | (#8116550)

Where did my Electronic Quarterback go?

Re:Hey... (1)

c.emmertfoster (577356) | more than 10 years ago | (#8116765)

Where did my strat-o-matic baseball go?

Silly article (0, Redundant)

MBraynard (653724) | more than 10 years ago | (#8116872)

I think top ten lists are written by lazy authors because they are easy to do.

But getting to my point, ALL handhelds failed except those with the name 'game boy' in them (excluding the 'super game boy'). There has essentially be ONE sucessful handheld. What's the point of saying the others are 'failed' because it is so obvious.

PSP (5, Interesting)

pudge_lightyear (313465) | more than 10 years ago | (#8116918)

Of course, the PSP and whatever's next will be in the same boat.
Here's why I think this:
Home gaming seems to be for adults and older kids. Supposedly, the average age of a gamer is over 20, etc. etc. etc. This is, as far as I know, with consoles (home) not portables.
The only people I see with gameboys are kids. They carry them in there backpacks, pockets, whatever... they play them in backseats (because they don't drive), they play them in school, church, wherever.

Adults (save a few... I actually have a gba -- but rarely play it) don't fit in well to the portable market for the following reasons:

1. They drive
2. They listen when they go to meetings, classes for work, church, etc.
3. They go home after work and CAN take over the tv set
4. Because of 3, would rather play on a 50" tv than a 3" LCD Screen.
5. Why buy something for the same price on one of these when I'd rather play a better one on a bigger screen at my only disposable time (which is at home)
6. These are always going to be a generation behind the at-home model... even with the PSP.
7. Because they are a generation behind, the games are fine, but not as good.
8. more reasons, but am supposed to be working...

The price point is aimed at adults. The games will be aimed at adults. But, I THINK, adults aren't as interested as they think they are...

Nintendo owns this market because they're cheap, the batteries last long, and they KNOW kids.

Re:PSP (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8117202)

GBA SP's are huge in New York City, at least, with adults. In just about any busy subway car, you'll see at least one out.

The GBA SP Dillemna (1)

swat_r2 (586705) | more than 10 years ago | (#8117238)

I've thought about these things before before I decided to buy a GBA SP, when will I actually get time to play it? I have 3 Consoles and a PC at home with more than enough games, and I am a working professional with not as much free time as I would like.

Not to sound too hardcore (or more like too much of a loser) but I actually started taking public transit to work until it got too cold to squeeze off a couple 30 minute rounds of FF:TA in before work. I also liked the fact that I could have a battle or two in the comfort of my bed while my girlfriend read her book. I also thought it would be a great idea for the "Yearly Camping" ritual we partake in with her parents and all their friends, for those slow days when we are doing jack shit, sitting around reading lame magazines. So yes, the time can be found to play, just not as frequently as the kids do.

Now, if the PSP offered say, Bluetooth, cellular, wireless internet, PDA like features "as a bonus" and not as the central feature, I could justify having it in my pocket at work. Plus if I could watch Divx etc it would definitely be cool.

I can't wait until this is unveiled, but I have a feeling that the concept pictures are just too sexy to make it to production, without "kiddifying" the machine.

And hey.. competition is a GOOD thing that will drive and innovate, even if it does mean coming out with Dual Screens!

It's all about the games (2, Insightful)

Randar the Lava Liza (562063) | more than 10 years ago | (#8117324)

I'd have to disagree.

I live in Brooklyn and ride the subway to work every day. I'm 30, know a lot of other 25-30 year olds who all have gameboys. On any given day I'll see 5-10 GBA SP's on the subway, and usually only one of those will be in the hands of a kid.

At home I have a gamecube, decked-out pc, and what I find myself playing the most are my gameboy games. Wario Ware, Advance Wars 1 & 2, Golden Sun, Mario & Luigi... these are all just great games. Sure I can load stuff up on the tv, but I can play my gameboy in the subway, I can take it with me on lunch breaks, I can play it in any room in the house, take it on planes, trains, etc.

Gameboys are not just for kids. That's similar to how people erroneously state that all gamecubes are owned by kids. Plenty of adults play and enjoy gameboys. They have incredible, quality games on them. I can name more wonderful gameboy games I've played in the last year than I can for my console and for my pc. There's some serious creativity going on with that platform.

Granted I didn't have this same love of my gba before the SP. I had a number of games that were fun, but I had to play those in good lighting, or buy a separate light kit. Plus the unit was so large. My SP fits in my coat pockets, heck, even in my jean pockets if the pants are baggy enough. Great games and portability, it's a good thing. Can't wait to see how the PSP does.

Re:It's all about the games (1)

aliens (90441) | more than 10 years ago | (#8123811)

I agree, I can whip out the GBA:SP on my 15min subway ride and play for a bit because the games load in a second, aren't insanely complicated to control and are fun.

Granted some of the nostalgia gets me (Zelda) but I can't remember the last time I had to even charge the damn thing.

The fact that it's much more portable than the hardback book I'm reading also helps. And I can play FF:TA with one hand if I don't find a seat.

Re:PSP (1)

il_diablo (574683) | more than 10 years ago | (#8117660)

I'll have to disagree as well.

I do quite a bit of business travelling. When I fly, if I show our TSA overlords a GameBoy SP, they understand. If I pull a PS2/GCN out of my bag, they aren't so happy. And I can't check them, because:

A) Hamfisted baggage handlers
B) I don't check baggage in the first place

If I'm driving to my destination, and only staying for 2-3 days, it's also not worth lugging my console only to have to hook it up with the craptacular UHF box, since hotel TVs won't let me use composite inputs.

Re:PSP (1)

AzraelKans (697974) | more than 10 years ago | (#8118658)

Well you are forgetting a few things.

1.Some of us commute to work (for 2 hours)
2.Some of us fly in airplanes routinely (and believe me those magazines become thiner in air)
3.We have to go to the bank, Drs office, ticket lines, taxes, And wait for HOURS
4.We have to wait for a package, boss, wife doing shopping.
5.Sometimes our wifes and kids take over the TV
6.And (well hopefully not that much) we must sleep in the couch.

Those are adult situations in which a GBA or another handheld would be pretty handy. Why do you think phone and PDA games are becoming popular? because kids need games on their PDA's and cel phones?
Besides if you bring to the table the fact that the PSP will include a mp3, mpg (minidvd?) player and that it will have the same price than an IPOD (which did sold pretty well) sony pretty much knows what they are doing.

Re:PSP (1)

Torgo's Pizza (547926) | more than 10 years ago | (#8120534)

Let me add to your list:

7. The average age of the typical gamer is around 30.
8. Work restrictions forbid us from putting games on our laptops. Handhelds are perfect.
9. Did I mention disposable income?
10. Playing a game on one of these is so easy in a hotel room and doesn't suck up my laptop juice when I need it for my presentation the next day.
11. You can hide easily from your boss.
12. You can play at lunch or during breaks.

Early entry (4, Funny)

Torgo's Pizza (547926) | more than 10 years ago | (#8116970)

Is it too early to just go ahead and put the Nintendo DS on the list? Hey, I'm just trying to save us all some time.

Re:Early entry (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8118064)

Wow, so you've seen and played one, then? Which of its games disenchanted you so?

And as I've been asking DS detractors recently, how many PSPs have you pre-ordered, and which of its games convinced you to do so?

Punk Rock (3, Insightful)

swat_r2 (586705) | more than 10 years ago | (#8118486)

It's so easy to bash something, and while the DS does sound a little goofy, it's challenging the norm - a punk rock approach to gaming. Even if it loses, who cares? It tried at least! The only way we're going to get ahead is by breaking the rules - and I welcome that. This is coming from a guy who's played one too many Spikey-Haired RPG's(TM), seen too many fake video game breasts, and played as too many stealthy ninjas. Not that there's anything wrong with it. But on a complete off-rant, is anyone else agree the stealth genre needs a severe kick in the ass?

Re:Punk Rock (1)

Aliencow (653119) | more than 10 years ago | (#8120113)

If you haven't played Manhunt, try it. It's a severe kick in the ass to the stealth genre.

Manhunt (1)

swat_r2 (586705) | more than 10 years ago | (#8121206)

I rented it over a weekend. I thought it was innovative how the headset was used to make the experience more immersive, and it had a high level of tension where I literally stopped breathing for fear they could hear me in the shadows. But after a few hours the repetition kicked in and it became a little stale. Plus I absolutely hated the "action" sequences with the crane, that's so out of place I don't want to get started on how bad of a decision it was to include that in the game.

Manhunt was no where near as horrible as I was lead to believe, and after playing Rogue Ops and Mission Impossible recently it was a fresh breath of air compared to those mediocre titles.

Not quite handheld, but... (2, Funny)

Thedalek (473015) | more than 10 years ago | (#8118303)

What about the portable version of the Phillips CD-I system?

Now that's obscure.

Nomad, hands down (1)

Hamster Lover (558288) | more than 10 years ago | (#8118561)

I have a Sega Game Gear, Sega Nomad and Gameboy Adavance. Hands down the Nomad is my favorite.

First, it plays all my old Genesis games flawlessly; it has full Genesis hardware inside.
Second, it can plug into a TV to function like a full sized Genesis machine, it even includes a second joypad port on the top on the unit for two player games. I have used it on occasion during long flights and it always draws a lot of attention, well ok, from people who love old Genesis games.

The article described the Nomad screen as blurry; I have not had the same experience, perhaps earlier units had this problem. I do have an issue with the cartridge port as some carts only work intermittently.

I think the main things that killed the Nomad were size, battery life and poor market. It really came at the very end of the Genesis life cycle and everyone was looking forward to 3D gaming from the Sony PlayStation or next Nintendo machine. As I said before, old gamers are always amazed when I pull it out on a plane and start Sonic or any other Genesis game; it really came in under their radar.

I love and keep my Game Gear mainly for the nostalgia and the battery life was atrocious, but the jittery screen really was the achilles heel of the machine, in my opinion.

Maybe I will change my mind once I plunk the money down for the Gameboy Advance SP and the better screen, which was always a sore point with me on my original Gameboy Advance.

Re:Nomad, hands down (1)

AvantLegion (595806) | more than 10 years ago | (#8122047)

Damn, you posted almost everything I was going to.

The Nomad was a wonderful machine. Mine is sitting on my desk right now.

I did not experience any screen blurriness either. And I don't think size was the big deal. But the fact that it could drain 6 AA batteries in 2 hours was a HUGE problem.

My father always got a ton of free AA batteries, so it wasn't a matter of cost for me, but simply having to interrupt game sessions (I didn't often play it 2+ hours straight, but usually I would start it for the 3rd time on the same batteries and get about 10 minutes of play out of it), and having to carry around a small army of batteries.

I should have gotten the rechargable battery pack, but really, even that would be of limited help. 'Cuz then, you gotta wait for the damn thing to recharge!

Marketing wasn't great for it either, I guess. I always knew about it, but everyone I talk to seems shocked it existed.

What's funny is that people were impressed with the thing as little as a couple years ago, like it was this new toy. As far as portables go, it definitely was ahead of its time. Even the GBA doesn't really beat it in the visuals department by all that much - certainly a bit. The true backlit screen of the Nomad beats the not-quite-as-even-or-as-radiant frontlit GBA SP screen, though.

I have a great idea for gamespy! (1)

AzraelKans (697974) | more than 10 years ago | (#8118783)

Top 10 articles that didnt made it!

guess which one will be on top?

Silly Gamespy, journalism is not for hmm... you.

obscure system (1)

hiroshi912681 (589840) | more than 10 years ago | (#8118927)

what was that obscure system they used to give away at the end of Legends of the Hidden Temple (gameshow on Nick)? It used to be sold in the Johnson Smith catalogues in the early 90's too... it was a gameboy clone

no one I've ever talked to knows what the heck I'm talking about

Re:obscure system (1)

Jad LaFields (607990) | more than 10 years ago | (#8120562)

Holy crap, you just brought back two memories I didn't even know I had. Legends of the Hidden Temple and those Johnson Smith catalogues... damn.

But to answer your question, I don't really remember what prizes were given out at the end of the Nickelodeon show, but I'm sure I saw what you're talking about in the catalogues... and damn if I remember what it was. I think I was just getting to the age where I became able to separate crap products from good products, so while I'm sure I still desperately wanted that thing, I knew that I was a bad idea.

(Getting more OT) This also reminds me of some computer game catalogue I recently found in the back of my closet that dates from around when CD-ROM drives first became available for PCs and that enormous glut of "multimedia" "interactive full screen video" games came out. Looking at that catalogue now, I realize how bad most of those games must have been. And they all sounded so cool and seemed so cutting-edge at the time!

So, anyway, to bring this back to the conversation at hand... um... all fads die away eventually, or something?

The article title is wrong. (1)

AzraelKans (697974) | more than 10 years ago | (#8119193)

This devices did "Made it" for a brief time and some are still "making it" in other countries. "never made it" would only apply to a 1/4 of the devices mentioned. Who keeps submitting (or reading) gamespy articles anyway?
However.. how many caught the "tongue in cheek" humor of posting this article one week from nintendo announcing the DS? (bastards)

Yes, but does it run... (1)

El (94934) | more than 10 years ago | (#8119220)

Has anybody ported Linux to any of these boxes? the GamePark 32 looks like a good prospect...

I had no idea how much experience I have (1)

_Sexy_Pants_ (703751) | more than 10 years ago | (#8119250)

I agree with this article almost entirely.

Game.com - owned it, even the Williams Classics Collection didn't run smoothly. The best game I ever played on it was Lights Out, built in and also available in board game form. Huge waste of money

Game Gear - I'm surprised to see this on there, since even though it didn't top the Game Boy, it was still a household name. It definately had its flaws (where'd my batteries go?), but I definitely had a bunch of friends with them.

Nomad: Much like that fighting-game ring Sega put out, it was the coolest idea in the world only there's no way I could ever own one as a kid. A friend had one and I thought it very capable, though I agree with the batteries.

Neo Geo Pocket Color: I fell in love with this system. It has recently been repacked and you can get one for about 50 bucks with three games (I'm estimating). The controls were excellent (best analog stick on any system) and games top-notch and surprisingly deep. I felt a blow when the news about Neo Geo hit (and then proceeded to order Metal Slug 2 and Match of the Millenium while I could)

I always wanted to have a wonderswan, but I never knew what happened to it. Was it released in the US? Not even magazines covered it and so it was pretty much vaporware to me.

I saw a TurboExpress at a thrift store for 20 dollars. Wish I'd picked that up now

Lynx was great... (1)

sammaffei (565627) | more than 10 years ago | (#8119357)

I question the "reliabilty" statement on the Lynx. I had an original Atari Lynx (circa 1989) up until 2 years ago. It held up great (for over 10 years)!

Road Blasters on the Lynx in 1990 beat the Game Boy hands down. Xybots rocked too.

Too bad the Tramiels were to cheap to really advertise and promote Lynx the way it deserved.

My opinions (3, Interesting)

M3wThr33 (310489) | more than 10 years ago | (#8119979)

Game.Com:
I kinda liked the device. It was a pity my favorite game was Lights Out. ;) The pocket pro has nice design. I loved the backlight and touchscreen, but unfortunately the refresh rate was far too low to enjoy games for too long.

Lynx:
I purchased one off of eBay some years back with a whole bunch of games and accessories (All new). Not too bad, great games, especially Chip's Challenge and the Mahjongg one, but unfortunately the cards lacked memory and ate batteries.

Game Gear: It was ok, but everytime I saw someone playing it, they were using an AC adapter to play it. It defeats the purpose, plus it didn't fit in your pocket. Although the Disney games were some of the best.

Nomad:
Battery WHORE.

Turbo Express:
THICK, bright screen.

GP32:
I like SM cards, but the community is built off of pirated roms and emulators. Plus the Zodiac2 blows it away now.

NGPC:
Got one at Fry's with 6 games for $70. Great deal. I love it all around. There's a reason it was #1.

N-Gage:
I own an MDM game that works in PPC, PalmOS and N-Gage. I hate the N-Gage.

Microvision:
A collector's item I'd like to have.

Wonderswan:
I never really had a chance to see one. Some games intrigued me, especially the MMBN on it.

Some complaints... (3, Insightful)

Man In Black (11263) | more than 10 years ago | (#8120269)

First of all, the Game.com has no business being on this list. Not only didn't it "make it"... it never had any chance whatsoever. I bought one of these things off of eBay with about 8 games a while back for a total of about $30... and let me tell ya, it's just barely worth that. The "PDA functions" are a joke (you can enter some telephone numbers, use calculator, and view (but not annotate) a calendar), and most of the games are unplayable. Mortal Kombat Trilogy and Fighter's Megamix animate so poorly and move so choppily that you can't even really play them... Sonic Jam and Indy 500 move far too fast, which causes the screen to blur horribly (WAY worse than the Gameboy ever did), which in turn makes them impossible to play properly. The only games worth a damn on this system are the built-in Solitaire game, Wheel of Fortune, and Tiger Casino. Oh, and Resident Evil 2 is surprisingly decent on this system... it's not good, but I expected it to be a LOT worse. The only redeeming factor for the Game.com is that it was still MUCH better than Tiger's other system, the R-Zone... boy, was that ever a horrible failure.

The Microvision also failed for a very good reason: It was horribly underpowered. I know it was released in the 70's, but the thing uses a 100kHz 4-bit CPU (I'm not kidding here), 32 nibbles of ram (Since the CPU is less than 8-bit, it's meaningless to refer to things in bytes), and the screen resolution is 16x16 (again, I'm not kidding). I seriously don't see how you can actually do anything meaningful with a system like that. I commend Milton Bradley for their innovation, but the technology just wasn't there.

I also question the wisdom of including handhelds that were never released in North America. Even if we're talking about worldwide sales, the fact that the Wonderswan and GP32 were never released here pretty much guarantees that they won't be successful regardless of how good they are.

Having said that, I think the Lynx and Nomad are very underrated... the Lynx had a lot of nifty features, like the ability to turn off it's backlight to save batteries when you pause, the ability to flip the screen so you could play left handed, and some games could play sideways to get a better aspect ratio. It really could have used more big name games though... all it really had were Atari's arcade ports, which weren't as popular as they were in the Asteroids heyday. Atari's marketing certainly didn't help either.

As for the Nomad, the system was overpriced and undermarketed... aside from the fact that it tears through batteries (If you got three hours from 6 AA's, then you did good), it's a very impressive system from a technical standpoint. A friend of mine has one, and he plays it all the time. You really need an AC adaptor for this one though.

Great article (1)

firstadopter.com (745257) | more than 10 years ago | (#8120320)

I really liked this article. Brought me back a lot of memories, I think I owned over half the handhelds on that list.

I wish... (2, Insightful)

Nexxpert (645881) | more than 10 years ago | (#8120339)

Even though people are complaining about the virtua boy, I wish that I could've had one to try for myself. At the time I was too young to buy one myself and my parents weren't going to buy me another gadget for a while.

Lots of people hate it, that's for sure, but did anyone ever try modding one to do something else, maybe play a game they made themselves, or add another colour or two to the display? ambitious, yes, impossible, dunno.

Also, are there any handhelds that allow you to develop your own games for and play them on the handheld? I've heard of the lik-sang(sp?) ram carts that could allow you to do this, but it's frowned upon as far as I know.

Wouldn't it be nice if the Nintendo DS came with or allowed you to buy flash carts that had pc interfaces to allow you to develop your own games, let the public try their hand at taking advantage of two screens!

Re:I wish... (1)

anotherone (132088) | more than 10 years ago | (#8121407)

I just bought a virtualboy a few days ago, actually. Mario Tennis is pretty good and Red Alarm is surprisingly fun. As for modding it, I definitly intend to try it once I'm tired of the games I have.

It's the controllers! (1)

krazykong (568196) | more than 10 years ago | (#8121680)

I understand that I'm probably going to be modded "off topic" with this, however, I just wanted to address and ask about the controllers themselves. I own a Nomad, a game-gear, a Microsoft's side winder game pad.... what do they have in common? That really goofy bumpy pancake shaped D-Pad. It's very hard and uncomfortable to use. I always wondered why they went that route when developing the control for these systems.

The classic 8 bit NES controller was a revolution and a godsend. It saved us from about 20 years of joystick riddled "Space Invaders Wrist", replacing it with the not-so-damaging :"Nintendo Thumb". It is probably the greatest contribution (maybe, besides rescuing us from the 80's video game crash) Nintendo has given the world of video games. Their + shaped D-Pad is still used on all Nintendo based home gaming hardware to include Game and Watch, the SNES, the game boy, the N64, the GBA and the Game Cube. I think it's the greatest way to control, especially when a game requires precision diagonal control. There really is no better way to perform the Street Fighter "Hadooken" move, requiring the "scoop" motion.

Some may arguer that the Playstion controllers are better (with 4 buttons indented inward), and they may be right, I can't contest that. I just love that Dpad. And wonder, if maybe Nintendo has a patent on that controller and that's why we don't see it from it's competitors. I really would love to have a PC game pad with that design for my computer. Before I get replies suggesting that I hack/mod my existing Nintendo controller, I understand that's my best course of action. I just think, maybe, Nintendo should release one for the PC. I think they would sell a ton of them.

Re:It's the controllers! (1)

M3wThr33 (310489) | more than 10 years ago | (#8121875)

The PSX D-pad is still a d-pad, but there's a plastic overlay across the diagonals. They aren't seperate buttons.

Re:It's the controllers! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8122446)

"I just love that Dpad. And wonder, if maybe Nintendo has a patent on that controller and that's why we don't see it from it's competitors."

Bingo! Duh!

"I really would love to have a PC game pad with that design for my computer. Before I get replies suggesting that I hack/mod my existing Nintendo controller, I understand that's my best course of action."

Just buy a USB adapter.
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