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Urban Terror To Go Stand-Alone With Enemy Territory

simoniker posted more than 10 years ago | from the more-good-free-stuff dept.

First Person Shooters (Games) 46

RogeR writes "Silicon Ice Development, authors of the popular Urban Terror mod for Quake 3 Arena, will be porting their mod over to recently made modifiable PC title Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory. They have been discussing this for a while now with id Software and Splash Damage, and have decided to move forward with their plans. Basically, this means Urban Terror will, when conversion is finished, become a free stand-alone game, using Enemy Territory's beefed-up Quake 3 engine. Oswald, the project manager, said: 'Those people who complained of legit keys or not being able to find Quake 3 - rejoice, you will be able to play'."

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How do I love thee... (0)

Sparr0 (451780) | more than 10 years ago | (#8131810)

How many ways does this rock, let me count the ways...

mac support? (2, Funny)

Hes Nikke (237581) | more than 10 years ago | (#8131923)

i just did some poking around, and didn't see anything about mac support in Wolf:ET...

i liked playing UT on my old Rage128 mac :(

Re:mac support? (1)

PeeweeJD (623974) | more than 10 years ago | (#8135677)

Maybe (hopefully) someone will port it now that is it free (speech and beer).

If it is a modified Quake3 engine, how much work could it be?

Re:mac support? (1)

AvitarX (172628) | more than 10 years ago | (#8139463)

Free speach does not have limitations against commercial circulation.

And most of the game code is not even open as in, see it and get tainted.

The code is not free as in beer either. The code for the actual game is really expensive.

Re:mac support? (1)

t0ny (590331) | more than 10 years ago | (#8147716)

I think you need to have a computer to play ET.

urban terror vs counterstrike (4, Insightful)

errgh (744846) | more than 10 years ago | (#8131968)

while somewhat similar I think that urban terror, with not much of a userbase now, will explode with this info. being free it should go crazy at Pc cafes' where they usually have illegal copies of halflife anyways, now they can support a free good game. dundundun

Re:urban terror vs counterstrike (1, Insightful)

Quarters (18322) | more than 10 years ago | (#8131987)

How many of those PC cafes did you see running Enemy Territory? There's no reason to believe that a free mod to an already free game will somehow start appearing in places that the free game didn't.

Re:urban terror vs counterstrike (2, Interesting)

errgh (744846) | more than 10 years ago | (#8132038)

Mostly because they always Quake3/Half life machines running illegal cd keys. Plus with the HUGE boom of people playing free games at pc cafes like Gunbound [] and solitaire I bet theyll eat this up. Given the right advertising and support. This is exactly what people need too, a good free game with some good support ( silicon ice ) and a good base ( RTCW ). Games are getting to supscription based which is why a lot of PC cafes are closing down nowadays. They cant afford to buy licenses for every machine.

Re:urban terror vs counterstrike (2, Insightful)

Quarters (18322) | more than 10 years ago | (#8134148)

You missed the point....entirely.

Return to Castle Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory != Return to Castle Wolfenstein.

WtCW:ET was a free game from the get go. There are no illegal CD keys to worry about. There is no legality problem that this new mod is going to magically solve. If the game the free mod is being based on is already free and it isn't showing up in a lot of places then why would the poster to the parent of these comments think that the mod would somehow manage to show up in those same places?

Re:urban terror vs counterstrike (1)

mahdi13 (660205) | more than 10 years ago | (#8136166)

If the game the free mod is being based on is already free and it isn't showing up in a lot of places then why would the poster to the parent of these comments think that the mod would somehow manage to show up in those same places?
Because you do not need the original Quake3 game/CD key to play?

Return to Castle Wolfenstein was nice, the multiplayer really made the game stand out. Enemy Territory took that multiplayer and made it better...and offered it for free, no need to purchase RtCW. There are lots of people that can not afford to purchase a $30-$50 game (bills come first) but a free download is very difficult to pass up. This way people can play the game and determine if they like it without the overhead of it being warez. It's fully playable and even supported.

Put it simply...It's better then a mod because it's not packaged as a mod, but an independant game.

Re:urban terror vs counterstrike (2, Interesting)

Thomas A. Anderson (114614) | more than 10 years ago | (#8132863)

FWIW: I own a PC gaming cafe (dual-boot linux/winxp) - and I have ET. Great game (that runs just as well on wither OS) and it gets played almost every day (nothing like cs however). Looking forward to seeing Urban Terror on the newer engine.

BTW - all my HL keys are legit - I can buy it for less than $15 american.

Port? (1, Interesting)

evilmuffins (631482) | more than 10 years ago | (#8131984)

Will there be a linux port, since there is a linux port of ET?

Re:Port? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8132341)

If you clicked the link above, you would have seen download links for Windows, Macintosh and Linux.

Good Question (1)

Undefined Parameter (726857) | more than 10 years ago | (#8132714)

Who owns the ET engine? If I understand correctly, it's a modified version of the Quake III engine... but will the Urban Terror people get to decide which platforms it comes out for, or will the Wolfenstein or Quake III people be able to tell them what platforms they will release for?

Will there be a Mac version, because there's a Mac version of Quake III? Will there be a Linux version, because there's a Linux version of ET? Who will decide this, in the end?

IANAL, but it seems that it might help to be one, in cases like this!


Re:Port? (1)

WWWWolf (2428) | more than 10 years ago | (#8133512)

Will there be a linux port, since there is a linux port of ET?

I guess it's very likely, considering they're supporting Windows, Mac and Linux versions on the current Q3A versions.

Well, I'm off to download RTCW:ET, finally =)

Too bad urban terror sucks. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8131994)

Shitty maps, loads of cheaters, sniper-centric gameplay, shitty graphics.


q3 navy seals is vastly superior.

Re:Too bad urban terror sucks. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8132444)

Troll? Hysterical. Obviously, whoever modded this down has never played q3ut. :)

Mixed Reaction, Here. (3, Insightful)

Undefined Parameter (726857) | more than 10 years ago | (#8132094)

I roomed with a guy who had Quake III and played the Urban Terror mod for a while. It wasn't popular then (two years ago), and I'm wondering if it will be popular after the release of the port.

Personally, I didn't think it was all that great then, when all I had was a Mac (which couldn't really run the mod) and hadn't seen CounterStrike. It was interesting, but it didn't reach out and grab me, even though I did (and still do) tend to prefer FPSs.

Still, if there've been revisions since then (and there probably have been), and if the ET engine can provide them with better graphics (and it can, from what I've seen), I can see it becoming popular, which would be a good thing for me; I get another game (for free (as in beer)!), it takes some of the population pressure and some of the cheaters away from CounterStrike, and might add a good spark of competition, too.

Right now, I'll just wait and see what happens. Hopefully I'll get to try it out when it's released. Hopefully, they'll have a Mac port, so that I won't need to rely on my currently-broken PC in order to play any of my favored games. (I admit it, I bought the PC for gaming purposes.)



Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8132291)

You evil video game freaks. Killing people in video games is wrong. The US government is solely responsible for killing. kthxby


Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8177110)

This is a pisstake right?!

Refresh my memory... (0, Offtopic)

ArmorFiend (151674) | more than 10 years ago | (#8132371)

Which castle wolfenstein has been open-sourced?

The fantastically old Apple ][ game?
The really old ID game that predated Quake 1?
Some new version I've never heard of?

Re:Refresh my memory... (1)

Hes Nikke (237581) | more than 10 years ago | (#8132489)

the one that is 2 clicks in from this flash based site [] . (Enemy Territory)

it's based on the Return to Castle Wolfenstein engine, which in turn is based on the (already open source) Quake III engine. :)

Re:Refresh my memory... (2, Informative)

Time Doctor (79352) | more than 10 years ago | (#8132604)

Neither the Quake 3, Enemy Territory/RtCW engines are open source. The only source that is available is for the game code. To give you an example, the game code is what sets the number of mines you can lay, and how the mines operate (being detected by spies, blowing you up when you step on them). The engine code is the renderer, input, et cetera.

Re:Refresh my memory... (1)

Krunch (704330) | more than 10 years ago | (#8140880)

Quake 3 isn't open source but Quake 2 is [] (as well as Quake I think).

this marks the demise of grammar (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8132597)


no mac support... (2, Insightful)

koi88 (640490) | more than 10 years ago | (#8134708)

Quote from the announcement: "The Macintosh users are a bit uneasy, since there is no support for ET."
So I guess we can stop speculating.
I really liked playing Urban Terror on my Mac some time ago.
Yes, it seems now impossible to purchease a copy of Quake III, so their move seems to be clever.
Yet, maybe they don't know how many of the players are/were Macintosh (or Linux???) users... I got the impression, quite a lot.
We just lost a great game.

Re:no mac support... (1)

Fryed (205364) | more than 10 years ago | (#8136177)

It's impossible to purchase Quake III? Since when? Quake III is now one of those games you can get for roughly $10 or so almost anywhere that sells games. It's not in a big box anymore, but it's a cd and a cdkey, and that's all that matters. Just yesterday I was at Wal-mart (no, I don't usually shop for games there, but it was 3 in the morning, I was bored, and my roommate had money to burn), and saw a jewel case with Quake 3 in it for $10.

If Quake III works on Macs, I assume this CD would work just fine on one.

It is a pity that WolfET isn't supported on Macs, though. I imagine it's not too hard to port (the engine it's based on was cross platform, after all), I suspect it's more a question of why bother. After all, no one is making a dime from this - it's free because it was planned on being a commercial product, but they decided that wasn't gonna work out, so instead of tossing the whole project out, they just cleaned it up a bit and put it on the internet for free. That's pretty nice of the company to do already, but it'd be bordering on insane for them to spend resources to port a game that they don't sell to another platform.

Oh well...if you can afford a Mac, you can probably afford a couple hundred to throw together a cheap PC ;)

Re:no mac support... (1)

koi88 (640490) | more than 10 years ago | (#8141006)

Oh, yes, I guess I should have gone to Wal-mart... I was looking in so many shops for a copy...
O well, it's too late now, isn't it?
Without hesitating I would pay 40-50$ for a game if i could play Urban Terror... but, as you said, a port seems very unlikely now...

Re:no mac support... (1)

puppetier (600622) | more than 10 years ago | (#8146375)

Wla-mart?? at 3 in the morning? is there a 24/7 walmart in the states or what? i'm just curious, because here in Canada wal-marts everywhere are only open from 8am to 11pm

Re:no mac support... (1)

Fryed (205364) | more than 10 years ago | (#8153456)

Wal-marts in Canada close?! Here where I live, we have two types of Wal-marts - the normal, grocery store type wal-marts, and the "Super" Wal-marts, that sell everything under the sun. I have yet to go to one of these super wal-marts that wasn't open 24/7.

I'm in Dallas, TX, by the way. I haven't sampled the Wal-marts in other states or countries.

Quake III for mac (1)

Mike Hawk (687615) | more than 10 years ago | (#8136536)

Buy two! [] You don't even need to leave your house.

Re:Quake III for mac (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8136953)

Or you could use this link [] , without your referral tag hidden in the url.

Re:Quake III for mac (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8137424)

But how would that benefit me?

Re:Quake III for mac (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8143419)

Nobody said it would. I (and some others here) just dislike that kind of misleading link. It's effectively a form of advertisement, earning that individual money through deception.

What is Urban Terror? (2, Insightful)

cthulhubob (161144) | more than 10 years ago | (#8138945)

I went to their website because it sounded cool, but the only info I could find is that it's a mod for Q3A...

Well I already KNEW that. I want to know what the storyline is about! I read the FAQ and the "Background Information" portion of the manual. Apparently nothing on their website tells you anything at all about what the point of the game is.

Is it just Q3A with different weapons (in other words, pointless)? What the hell is it?

Re:What is Urban Terror? (2, Informative)

The Evil Couch (621105) | more than 10 years ago | (#8145556)

provided they haven't changed it since I played it about a year ago, it's basically counter-strike, with better graphics.

Re:What is Urban Terror? (1)

cthulhubob (161144) | more than 10 years ago | (#8158010)

Cool, thanks. Maybe I'll dust off my copy of quake 3 sometime and check it out.

Holy Crap! (1)

Chizzy (746092) | more than 10 years ago | (#8142884)

Am I just an overzealous fan, or am I right to say that UT and ET being bundled together is just as exciting as DoD being officially endorsed by Valve (as an FPS fan, of course)? *Sweats in anticipation*

This is great news (1)

Dan Farina (711066) | more than 10 years ago | (#8146872)

Urban Terror is my favorite FPS mod right now. I'm very happy to hear this news, the community, while appropriately sized, could use some more players. Also finding Q3A can be challenging, so it's hard for new people to get into the game. CS-like popularity would detract from the gameplay experience, I think. I try to convert CS-folk as often as possible, having developed a certain aversion to CS sometime around Beta 6 trailing long-standing discontent with the direction weapon balancing was going. It's pretty much AK vs. Colt vs. AWP these days, with little variation in the bulk of the game. I find a lot of variation in load-outs in Urban Terror.

Although there's no storyline, but it's pure gameplay gold. It also has some of the best netcode I've ever seen (or lag-compensation code, I should say.) With low packet loss, it's perfectly possible to pwn with a 700 ping.

Question: what are the spec changes (if any) for the standalone version? What kind of graphical enhancements (if any) are there?

Cool (1)

delusrexpert (578176) | more than 10 years ago | (#8150055)

Try and Ban me now Bigpond. No more quake keys required ;)

Re:Cool (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8174632)

Good one del - can't wait to have you back you clown

Re:Cool (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8176443)

ET still uses and creates a cd-key on install.

guid's are created thus people can still be banned.

don't know who you have a beef with but they can't still keep you off their servers

Re:Cool (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8176726)

Let's see you try, del/usr/expert. We'll be waiting for you!

Re:Cool (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8176766)

lol! delusr, urban terrors #1 knob is back! Cant wait for your kick from game arena ya dipshit

Re:Cool (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8177041)

I don't think GA would mind the challenge.

Re:Cool (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8177875)

For those who are getting the impression that these people who have posted above are an unusually abusive lot - /del/usr/exp has been banned from bigpond gamearena for (among other things) making verbal threats of a sexual nature towards a 7 year old player.
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