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Recycle some of your 100 million Pepsi Songs

CmdrTaco posted more than 10 years ago | from the thats-a-fun-idea dept.

Media (Apple) 383

grub writes "If you're one of the people that wins a free download from Apple's iTunes during the upcoming 100 million song giveaway from Pepsi, then check out Tune Recycler. They say: "With the Tune Recycler, you can send us your unwanted iTunes bottlecap codes and we'll use them to support independent music. Easy for you, and good for musicians" Sounds like a great idea for payments that may otherwise be tossed in the trash."

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Killing the golden goose? (5, Interesting)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151427)

Even the Tune Recycler site admits that Pepsi and Apple are expecting that a majority of the "winning" bottlecaps are going to be ignored and unclaimed. If this kind of site encurages more returns than antisipated, might this prevent there from being a repeat of this promotion in the future?

Re:Killing the golden goose? (5, Interesting)

mrseigen (518390) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151460)

If I were a betting man, I'd put money on the fact that 90% of idiots will go "Hmm, there's this Eye-Tunes thing in my Pepsi... oh well" and toss it. I'd bet that probably very few people will cash in their codes, and even fewer will give them away to this site or even know it exists.

Personally, I'm in Canada, so I don't really care (iTMS isn't over here because of the Canadian music industry being a pain).

Re:Killing the golden goose? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151525)

Not really. Rememeber, iTunes is the easiest to use despite not having many labels signed (for example the classic rap label jigzone records [jigzone.com] and groundbreaking electronica label warp records [warprecords.com] .)

As the amount of people with computers and a decent internet connection is increasing, this can only get more popular.

Re:Killing the golden goose? (4, Informative)

Robotech_Master (14247) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151671)

I have to say that I'm glad the nearby college campus is a Pepsi campus. Back when Pepsi was doing its PepsiStuff/DewStuff promotion, I regularly patrolled the buildings on campus, fishing Pepsi and Dew bottles out of the trash and taking the caps...as most people who drink the things will keep the cap with the bottle and then screw it back on to throw it away.

You may laugh at me for trash-can diving...but I ended up getting a nice backpack, a mini-Mag lite, a DVD of Jackie Chan's Gorgeous...and, for 255 bottlecaps, a 16 meg RIO mp3 player. That's a lot of stuff.

Too bad they didn't give away a Harrier jumpjet [slashdot.org] .

Re:Killing the golden goose? (5, Insightful)

Kjella (173770) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151471)

It's very likely that those that don't have any interest in the iTMS codes or how they can get free music, don't have any interest in this project either. My guess is they'll still ignore it, and if someone else tries to gather up codes locally they're more likely to use it to get a nice collection rather than donate it to this project anyway.

So while it's a nice thing, I hardly think it'll have a significant impact on the number of caps claimed.

Kjella

Re:Killing the golden goose? (4, Insightful)

MisterFancypants (615129) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151560)

Even the Tune Recycler site admits that Pepsi and Apple are expecting that a majority of the "winning" bottlecaps are going to be ignored and unclaimed. If this kind of site encurages more returns than antisipated, might this prevent there from being a repeat of this promotion in the future?

There's no way this project will even cause a blip on the radar. In fact, I'd be really surprised if they got many submissions at all. Generally, the people who do not participate in the contest will either be those who threw the cap away without even looking at it, or people who are not net-savvy enough to be 'hip' to iTunes and anyone who falls into that category certainly isn't going to know about this project.

Neat idea, I suppose, but ultimately unpractical.

Why not use the winning bottlecaps yourself? (4, Insightful)

ScottGant (642590) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151669)

Use them yourself and buy the independent music that's available from iTunes? That way, you're helping to support the independent artist, AND you're opening up yourself to new music!

Don't download that song you've heard a million times on the radio or something like that. Explore the musical frontiers...even if they're not that good, you'll never know unless you look. And you may find a gem.

If you DO find a gem of a song out there, you've "won" again in addition to the free download itself!

Just a thought.

Whoa, I answered my own question. (5, Informative)

ScottGant (642590) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151694)

Being a loyal Slashdot reader, I of course posted before RTFA in which it states:

I use iTunes, so why should I send you my bottlecap code?
You shouldn't! If you use the iTunes Music Store, we don't want the cap, you should redeem it yourself. However, we would strongly encourage you to use the cap to buy music that's not from one of the 5 major labels. The website RIAA Radar can help you figure out if music that you're thinking of buying is put out by a member of the RIAA. Use the tree to see what labels are just major label fronts.


This is what I'm going to try to do.

how long (5, Interesting)

everyplace (527571) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151431)

How long before extra itunes codes wind up on ebay in lots? Will that be an appropriate thing to sell?

Re:how long (4, Informative)

cliffy2000 (185461) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151453)

No. Generally, game pieces have a clause in their contract that they cannot be resold individually. Furthermore, they technically have a cash value of 1/20 cents (read the fine print). IANAL, but IAARSP (I am a relatively smart person).

Re:how long (2, Insightful)

jdcook (96434) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151660)

"Furthermore, they technically have a cash value of 1/20 cents (read the fine print). IANAL, but IAARSP (I am a relatively smart person)."

Many coupons specify a "cash redemption value" of 1/20 or 1/100 cent. But a thing is still worth what it will bring. Think about it. If this weren't true, why would anyone pay a premium for a 1943 copper penny which technically has a cash value of 1 cent? You may be a relatively smart person but you are nonetheless wrong.

Re:how long (1)

travdaddy (527149) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151713)

Yeah but neither eBay nor Pepsi would probably enforce that clause very well. McDonald's monopoly pieces were being sold like crazy on eBay just a few months ago (yes that is sad).

Re:how long (1)

happykitsune (712726) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151454)

As far as I'm aware, you cannot sell "point" or "Vouchers" on eBay that came with another product, I checked it out when I had spair codes left over from European Nintendo games for their VIP scheme.

Re:how long (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151467)

No, you'd be better off selling actual CDs [jigzone.com] , at least they are something you can keep and cherish for years to come.

Re:how long (1)

tcgwebs (737923) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151507)

I'm sure people will do it, just as people sell gift certificates on eBay or anything else for that matter.

Re:how long (2, Funny)

sameyeam (587571) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151676)

Will that be an appropriate thing to sell?

Since when did "appropriate" matter on eBay? :-)

bottle caps. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151432)

bottle caps.

what are they all about?

are they good, or are they whack?

Re:bottle caps. (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151527)

In Soviet Russia, bottle caps collect you!

Re:bottle caps. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151574)

Let me see if I get this straight: 1. Buy Pepsi 2. Send in caps 3. ??? 4. Profit!

I need help... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151434)

I am blonde with big tits wondering if a hot unix guy can tell me what these command do?

fsck
mount
finger

?

Re:I need help... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151566)

I'd tell you, but I'm not exactly hot.

The Experience of Hans and Else with a Strange Man (-1, Troll)

Mike Bourna (748040) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151435)

Else begins to have plenty of sweets.

Hans asks from where they are coming.

"I have got them from a strange man. But don't tell mother! The man strictly forbade me to do so!"

Hans is curious. They arrange to go together. The "man" wants them to go with him.

Hans hesitates -- Hans thought:

'What does the man want of us? Why should we go with him?'

Suddenly a great fear comes over him.

"You are a Jew!" he cries and seizing his sister, runs off as fast as his legs will carry him. At the corner of the street he meets a policeman. Quickly Hans tells his story. The policeman gets on his motor-bike and soon overtakes the strange man. He handcuffs him and takes him to prison.

At home, subsequently, there is great rejoicing. The police praise Hans for being a brave lad. His mother gives him a large piece of chocolate while teaching him the following saying:

"A devil goes through the land,
The Jew he is, known to us all
As murderer of the peoples and polluter of the races,
The terror of children in every country!

He wants to ruin the youth.
He wants all peoples to die.
Have nothing to do with a Jew
Then you'll be happy and gay!"

Re:The Experience of Hans and Else with a Strange (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151595)

Hmmm, sounds familiar. This is actually from a real Nazi children's book, ain't it?

Re:The Experience of Hans and Else with a Strange (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151624)

No, it's a frontpage story from bbc.co.uk, dumbfuck.

Re:The Experience of Hans and Else with a Strange (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151650)

Hey, come on now. You could just have made it up yourself...

Pepsi, Cola war again (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151438)

Odd this happens just after Coke makes its music store in the UK

Re:Pepsi, Cola war again (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151648)

Yes, but Apple and Pepsi announced this back in October, so it's no copy cat.

Re:Pepsi, Cola war again (2, Informative)

FosterKanig (645454) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151653)

Except the date of this promotion was annouunced last October.
Perhaps you meant that it is odd that Coke opened their store just before this promotion started.

Re:Pepsi, Cola war again (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151728)

Yup, and I won't be drinking either until they release the source code, who knows what's inside those bottles.

And what a great way... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151441)

...to support the national mail service?!

I don't think anyone will bite.... (2, Interesting)

Dr Reducto (665121) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151443)

I don't think this campaign of theirs will work out. If only %10-%20 percent of people are going to redeem their caps on iTunes, even less are going to go through the hassle of mailing bottlecaps to someone. I bet they'll get maybe 1000 caps.

As for me, im going to the store to see if they started the iTunes promotion, and if they have, I will be buying a few cases of Pepsi.

Re:I don't think anyone will bite.... (3, Informative)

smonner (468465) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151477)

I don't think you will have to mail anything. It sounds like you will be able to enter the code directly into their site. They might get a few takers. I'd do it.

No need to mail the physical cap... (5, Insightful)

interactive_civilian (205158) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151498)

People can just email them the redemption code printed on the cap and they can use it to claim the free download.

Cheers. :)

Who runs this thing? (3, Interesting)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151446)

Who's picking which songs will be downloaded with the turned-in codes? How do we not know that this isn't being set up by a group of artists who want to boost their own sales? Is there any way for additional artists to sign up to get a cut of this money?

Did you load the page? (5, Informative)

Inoshiro (71693) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151486)

" Which Musicians are Getting the Money?

Every week or so, we'll be choosing a few independent artists and a particular album of theirs which we will repeatedly purchase using the donated codes. If we buy enough copies of a single album, we might even be able to move it up the iTunes charts-- it's not too hard these days. All the artists will be from independent labels with reputations for treating artists fairly.

How do I know you guys aren't just going to buy music for yourself?

Well, we run the music activism project Downhill Battle [downhillbattle.org] , which is working to bring positive change to the music industry. A central theme of our site is that it's simply unethical to purchase major label music. So clearly, if we wanted free major label music, we'd just take it. Furthermore, since iTunes is essentially a voluntary contribution system (you're paying for something that you could get for free), there's just no incentive to scam people out of bottlecaps. We're just trying to make it easier for people to do something good with their caps instead of throwing them away.
"

Holy Shit, Batman! Score another one for the "can load the page before hitting reply button" team!

Re:Did you load the page? (1)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151494)

That doesn't quite get to the point. Who is Downhill Battle and why should we trust them?

Well, let's see. Since you obviously can't click. (1)

Inoshiro (71693) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151724)

Just sitting on your hands and whinning about something when you can quickly find out & decide for yourself is silly. I'll humour you for a couple more clicks, though...

WhatACrappyPresent [whatacrappypresent.com] is their creation, and they've been in the news [downhillbattle.org] a whole bunch. You can even call Nicholas, one of the creators of the site, at home via the whois info. I'm sure he'll be happy to answer your questions.

Re:Who runs this thing? (3, Informative)

skyfaller (624053) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151505)

Downhill Battle [downhillbattle.org] runs this thing. They are a non-profit music activism group dedicated to returning diversity to mainstream music [downhillbattle.org] . They are two very idealistic non-artists who definitely are not trying to boost their own sales. Hopefully they will choose well whom they support and publicly document their reasoning. Incidentally, they need help with the backend for the Recycler, so please contact them if you think you can help (and you are inclined to help them, of course).

Mountain Dew? (5, Funny)

Schnapple (262314) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151447)

It looks like this promotion is limited to Pepsi, Diet Pepsi and Sierra Mist, none of which interest me. Wither Mountain Dew? Are they intentionally slighting geeks?

Re:Mountain Dew? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151466)

It looks like this promotion is limited to Pepsi, Diet Pepsi and Sierra Mist, none of which interest me. Wither Mountain Dew? Are they intentionally slighting geeks?

No, they just realized most people got tired of drinking that moose piss called Mountain Dew.

Re:Mountain Dew? (1, Funny)

Schnapple (262314) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151517)

No, they just realized most people got tired of drinking that moose piss called Mountain Dew.
And you're saying that Sierra Mist isn't moose piss?

Re:Mountain Dew? (2, Funny)

btlzu2 (99039) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151536)

No, I don't think he is, but Mountain Dew is radioactive Moose piss, so it's special.

Re:Mountain Dew? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151523)

It's clearly a conspiracy aimed at nerds and geeks everywhere. They know we're technically savvy, and they know we drink Mountain Dew. This is obviously a plan to stop us.

Re:Mountain Dew? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151596)

Wither Mountain Dew? Are they intentionally slighting geeks?

Ok, so you're saying that geeks will camp out on a sidewalk for months to get Star Wars movie tickets, but asking them to switch from Mountain Dew to Pepsi for two months is just GOING TOO GODDAMNED FAR?

Please.

Like I care (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151449)

Like I care for this artists who are independent because they aren't good enough to get a recording contract.

Help Downhill Battle (1, Redundant)

skyfaller (624053) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151451)

A post on Downhill Battle [downhillbattle.org] says they need help automating the redemption. Applescript, anyone? Something else?

A friendly reminder from Jew Pranks (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151456)

Honest indies (5, Insightful)

1000101 (584896) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151457)

"When you submit a winning Pepsi code to the Tune Recycler, we'll redeem it for music from honest, independent labels."
Just because a label is independent doesn't make them honest. There are shady businesses everywhere.

Re:Honest indies (2, Informative)

skyfaller (624053) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151474)

That's true, that's why they qualified "independent labels" with the adjective "honest". Presumably they will only use the codes on HONEST indie labels, and hopefully they will have done enough research that they can say with confidence that the labels they support are "non-evil".

Re:Honest indies (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151702)

This is a bit a plug, but one of the labels they are supporting is jigzone records [jigzone.com] , a haven for fantastic old school style rap artists. Check it out it's excellent!

Re:Honest indies (1)

Pikhq (728580) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151600)

They mean a label that is both honest and indie.

pepsi supports independent artists!? (2, Insightful)

knowles420 (589383) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151468)

well, not without some sort of gimmick. not that i'm against small bands actually getting a share of the spoils here, but aren't they the type of artists that should be supported in the first place?

No free music for me (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151481)

I'm stuck on a college campus (no car) that's been bought by Coke :(

How will this work? (1)

CrackedButter (646746) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151484)

1. Collect bottle tops 2. ??? 3. Profit Seriously, how does one get money for this? Do they pay artists in bottle tops instead of peanuts now? also whats wrong with normal bottle tops, if the unwinning ones have some value why don't we recycle bottle tops anyway?

Re:How will this work? (1)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151532)

Rumor has it that Pepsi is paying the full 99 cents for each bottle-cap code that actually gets redeemed, and 1/3 of specially marked bottles will have a redeemable code.

Re:How will this work? (1)

zelphior (668354) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151599)

not just a rumor. if you would RTFA, you would see that it says:

"A winning Pepsi cap isn't just a song, it's a chance to send Pepsi's 99 cents somewhere good. When a cap is redeemed, Pepsi pays Apple 99 cents for the song, and Apple passes along 65 cents to a record label. Unfortunately, most of the music on iTunes is put out by one of the 5 major record labels, and their business practices are highly suspect. When you buy an iTunes song from a major label, there's a good chance the artist won't see a penny, because they're still recouping. If the artist does get a cut, it's only about 10 cents from the 99 cents you paid. But we can do better!"

I think it would be more ethical... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151489)

...for me to use my Pepsi caps to choke dolphins. Damn wannabe smart fish are just waiting for the big takeover and anything you can to thin the herd and prevent overlord status would be helpful.

Re:I think it would be more ethical... (0, Offtopic)

knowles420 (589383) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151516)

choke dolphins

so long, and thanks for all the fish!

Don't feel bad for the poor guitar player... (4, Insightful)

gb506 (738638) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151497)

I wish I had the type of nimble, strong, and boisterous advocacy for my art that independent musicians seem to have. The darn Pepsi deal hasn't even officially started yet and they're already trying to maximize profit.

Their machine would be pretty impressive to me if there weren't other types of artists out there in much greater need. I mean, you can't swing a friggin' cat without hitting some longhair with a guitar. But a painter, sculptor etc? Have fun trying to "get paid" for that.

Domain is NOT registered to Apple (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151503)

The domain of tunerecycler.com is not recycled to Apple. How do we know that this guy isn't trying to make a quick buck?

See the WHOIS [register.com]

Where are the files going? (3, Insightful)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151514)

Why does this group want the codes given to them?

Wouldn't a better plan be to link to some of the better indie artists on the service and tell people to download their songs, therefore allowing people to actually listen to the music their code purchased?

Re:Where are the files going? (4, Insightful)

RalphBNumbers (655475) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151690)

Damn right!

I'm all for musicians getting a decent cut of the profit their music generates, but this doesn't do that at all.

This gives big chunks of money to a few specific bands chosen by downhillbattle, and gives the consumer no music in return.

Hell, this actually discurages perople from listening to these indie bands' music, by taking a potential listener's free song and essentially throwing it away. That sounds alot more like what a corporate money grubing weasel would do than an honest musician who actually wants to be heard.

Re:Where are the files going? (1)

zeux (129034) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151718)

Because most of the people don't know how or don't want to install iTMS. It's much easier to send the code by mail to someone else and forget everything about it.

this is interesting (2, Insightful)

minus_273 (174041) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151518)

and i dont mean the site asking for caps. The interesting bit it that this will be announced in a big commercial during the superbowl later today that will proclaim that you can legally download free music. i get the impression that this will appeal to alot of people. i hope that it is a huge success .. i know iwill buy pepsi instead of coke simple becasue of the offer :) .. i think thw best thing to do is get a song and give to 2 friends as well that way you have 1/3 odds and 3 people :)

Just wait until you see (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151710)

Just wait until you see the commercial that the RIAA has praised.
The one featuring the little girl who was sued by the RIAA.

gads.

100 Million Songs... Specifics? (1)

httpamphibio.us (579491) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151522)

See, when I first heard about this, I assumed that it was going to be a specific number of free songs. Like 3-5 predetermined songs that Pepsi has been asked to promote by the record companies...

Maybe that's not the case, which makes the whole proposition seem a little crazy. This could massively increase the iTunes userbase, but it could also just be a huge drain on bandwidth.

Re:100 Million Songs... Specifics? (1)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151559)

What Pepsi is effectively giving away is 99 cent gift certificates to iTunes Music Store... which can be used to download any song on the service. Reportedly, Pepsi will be paying Apple the full 99 cents for every code that gets turned in...

Re:100 Million Songs... Specifics? (1)

httpamphibio.us (579491) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151572)

Which let's us assume they are making at least 33 cents on each bottle they are selling since the reported odds are 1 in 3.

I wonder who approached who in this promotion. How weird.

Re:100 Million Songs... Specifics? (1)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151633)

Not even, Pepsi can print 100 million codes and safely assume that only 20% are going to actually be turned in... therefore Pepsi hands a $20 million check to Apple and it's all settled.

$20-30 million isn't out of line for a soft drink promotion... remember the "Play For a Billion" game that Pepsi ran last summer, and will likely repeat this year. This contest just gives out a lot of little prizes instead of having any big ones.

Re:100 Million Songs... Specifics? (1)

skiflyer (716312) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151719)

Play for a billion was actually setup so no one would win. Well, at least not the billion, and then the risk was sold off to Warren Buffet, Pepsi basically paid him X million and said, if someone actually wins this thing, you owe them a billion dollars.

Priceless (-1, Troll)

ic0wb0y (728958) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151533)

1984 Apple Super Bowl TV Commercial: Priceless
All other Apple TV Commercials: $1 to $100
Watching Steve get dawg'd in the Pepsi Bang-Bus: Just 30 seconds of your life watching the 2004 Apple Super Bowl TV commercial

Non-carbonated (1)

PuffCammy (739447) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151547)

What about the health nuts like me that don't take in any caffeine/carbonated drinks? Where do I win in this situation? *sulk*

Re:Non-carbonated (1)

Scrameustache (459504) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151613)

What about the health nuts like me that don't take in any caffeine/carbonated drinks? Where do I win in this situation? *sulk*

If you're not going to become addicted to their sugar loaded stilmulant drinks, they have no reason to entice you with free (minus the small DRM) music.

Re:Non-carbonated (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151625)

Geeks know good health is overrated. Unless, of course, you're a contestant on the TV show Average Joe.

Drink up, feel terrible, redeem that song.

What, no OGG support? Damn.

Re:Non-carbonated (2, Funny)

sindarin2001 (583716) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151630)

Your healthy lifestyle...as for the rest of us, we'll be chock full of crap in our bodies when we die, but we'll get free music!!

Cheers.

Re:Non-carbonated (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151642)

Send in a SASE to Pepsi for a free game piece, or stop being a pussy and live a little. You're probably going to drop dead while jogging, [simpsonassociatesinc.com] anyway. Us bacon double cheeseburger munchers love the irony.

Accountabilty? (5, Interesting)

geekboy_x (410674) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151554)

I would feel a lot better about this if there was some public accountability from Tunerecycler. Do we get statements? A redemption receipt? Summaries at the end? Anything?

As an independent musician, I find it odd that they have never responded to an email asking for more info from an artist's POV - especially when asking for clarification on their stance on iTunes downloads. Silence can often speak volumes.

If this was simply a list of all the bands and labels at the iTunes store (with proper documentation) that you SHOULD support by redeeming the caps yourself, I would be all for it. But there are enough holes here (and enough errors in the so-called label "tree") that I wouldnt touch this thing with a 3 metre pole.

Have fun. Listen to music. But dont get sucked in.

(DISCLAIMER: The band I am in offers ALL of our CDs for free on our web site, all the time. iTunes wouldn't touch us if we were the last band on earth. Whether or not you use the caps, recycle them, or paste them on a squirrel, makes no matter to us.)

bad approach (5, Interesting)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151558)

They're advocating sending in unused coupons so they can buy multiple copies of music from indie artists. If you don't want to install iTunes, that's an ok proxy, I guess, and better than just throwing them out.

I think a better approach would be if all slashdot readers (or tunecycler advocates) would get indie music. tunecycler could list a new artist or song to check out every couple days, and pepsi-guzzling geeks could get a free song. That would put money in the indie artist's pocket and expose more people to their music, something their approach doesn't do.

No good (4, Insightful)

skyfaller (624053) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151632)

The problem is that Downhill Battle is, first of all, providing this service for people who have not installed or cannot install iTunes (such as Linux users). Secondly, they don't think that iTunes is a good idea, and they'd rather that people didn't use it at all. See their site iTunes is bogus [downhillbattle.org] .

*Gasp!* (0)

tcgwebs (737923) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151565)

TuneRecycler used the word "Super Bowl" on their site. *gasp*

Official Rules (5, Interesting)

crumbz (41803) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151590)

Apple's Official Rules for the promotion state that the, "Maximum number of valid Codes per email address/person that can be entered at the Web Site is 10 per day and 200 total throughout the Promotion Period." I wonder how these guys are going to get around that?

Oh man ... (1)

pherris (314792) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151591)

I wonder what their opinion of iTunes [downhillbattle.org] is? And be honest.

It's Official Apple SUX! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151593)

Oh the humanity!

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/35259.html

sure.... (1)

atheken (621980) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151594)

yeah... I'll give away my stuff.

code?? (3, Interesting)

lastninja (237588) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151602)

What kind of codes are Pepsi and Apple using in the bottle caps. Are the codes following some pattern or are they using random numbers?? If they follow a pattern and it is true that only 10% of all codes are used, one could just boost his favorite independant artist, during the last day of the promotion and no one would notice (except pepsi that is) provided you found the algorithm, ofcourse.

Re:code?? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151698)

What kind of codes are Pepsi and Apple using in the bottle caps.

10-digit alphanumeric.

36^10 = 3,656,158,440,062,980.

Good luck finding the 100 million valid codes in the 3.6 quadrillion possible.

Buy your own indie music (3, Insightful)

NiKnight3 (532580) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151634)

The site given links to RIAA Radar, a site that tells the relative connection between an artist and the RIAA. A better solution would be to go to that site and discover some new, independent music for yourself. That's actually what they tell people to do if you already use iTunes... they just want the caps if you don't want to bother downloading Apple's program.

I won't be donating caps. (-1, Troll)

j1mmy (43634) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151640)

I don't drink Pepsi and I don't like any of those artists.

Win-win situation for me!

Sounds an awful lot like... (1)

AIX-Hood (682681) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151651)

This sounds an awful lot like that old skit from In Living Color, "The you-can-make-me-rich!" blank cassette tape limited time offer.

my favorite band... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151670)

is the Cowboy Junkies [cowboyjunkies.com] who dumped the majors after being shit on one too many times. They now operate their own label and are not part of the RIAA. Check out their work if you like folk/country/blues flavored music.

DMC
http://www.lumigraphics.com/

iTMS Canada must be opening soon! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151675)

I was at the local convenience store and saw a bunch of these pepsi-iTMS giveaway bottles in the rack. That must mean that Apple is FINALLY going to open up iTMS to the canadian market, since there would be zero point in selling those bottles here in Canada otherwise.

There may be something the people didn't expect... (2, Redundant)

Dr Reducto (665121) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151683)

According to the rules of the program:

"Q: How many codes can I enter?
A: You can enter up to ten unique codes per day, not to exceed 200 unique codes over the duration of the Pepsi iTunes Music Promotion."

These people may encounter a problem with this rule.

Apple has Independents too (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151701)

I guess it should be pointed out that iTunes has made a deal with CD Baby through which artists who are not signed to one of the Big 5 congloms can get their music on iTunes.

http://www.cdbaby.com/about?cdbaby

I am not affiliated with either Apple or CD Baby, nor do I know where to get more information concerning this deal. But you all know how to use Google, right?

C'mon, why trust these guys? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151707)

At the very beginning they claim the service and the software will cost you more than the Pepsi proving they're either ignorant or dishonest. Then all the way through the article they make it obvious that for whatever reason they have a corn cob up their rear ends about iTunes.

If you want to support independents, then fer cryin' out loud, go out and buy their CDs, records, tapes, and online music. And especially support local live music---you won't regret it. Don't turn to these really strange self appointed messiahs. If you don't want major record companies to dictate what you should listen to, why would you want anyone else to either?

The problem (3, Interesting)

cascino (454769) | more than 10 years ago | (#8151711)

The problem is that the largest difficulty in getting a consumer to redeem the bottle cap certificate is having them remember not to throw it away, and instead bring it home and type it into the computer.
This recycling idea counts on people bringing home their caps but NOT redeeming them. I'm really not quite sure why anyone would want to do that. I certainly have a whole bunch of music I'd be more than happy to get for free one way or another, some of which includes independent albums.
Why can't they simply encourage people to buy music from indy groups, instead of essentially throwing the money away on licensed files that no one's ever going to listen to?
It's one thing to have big sales on iTunes, but if no one's ACTUALLY LISTENING to the music, what point does it serve?

Why should I care? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151715)

It takes the same amount of effort to send them the winning codes than to get the songs. So why should I send it to them?

I would support independent music by downloading the ones I like myself. But otherwise I could careless!

I don't believe the crap about people downloading music because mainstream music isn't that good. People do it because they can, not because of some moral qualm!

The same with OSS. Most people don't use Linux because they can see the code. It's free and it's like Unix that is why they take it.

Fuck everybody

Just bought Jean Grae (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8151742)

One of the artists highlighted on their site.
With my own iTunes acount. (don't drink soft drinks anyway).

One track claims to be 45 minutes which is a pretty good deal for my $0.99.

At least one good thing came outta this.
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