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Microsoft Develops XP 'Light' for Thailand

timothy posted more than 10 years ago | from the first-one's-free dept.

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GoatJuggler writes with this Bangkok Post report that "Microsoft announced plans to develop a discounted, slightly crippled version of Windows XP for Thailand."

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You mean you can cripple it more? (5, Funny)

Snowspinner (627098) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221155)

It's possible to wring even less functionality out of Windows XP?

Revolutionary!

Re:You mean you can cripple it more? (5, Funny)

Mr Guy (547690) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221161)

Sure this one is just a splash screen and a blue screen, used interchangeably.

Re:You mean you can cripple it more? (3, Funny)

pe1rxq (141710) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221175)

You forget the teletubby landscape you get between those two....
Or is that the part that is cut out?

Jeroen

Re:You mean you can cripple it more? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8221177)

Oh, so they've relabled WindowsME as XP lite then?

Re:You mean you can cripple it more? (5, Funny)

bad_fx (493443) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221184)

Sure this one is just a splash screen and a blue screen, used interchangeably.

...Uhhh... So what're they changing...?

Re:You mean you can cripple it more? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8221203)

...Uhhh... So what're they changing...?

Uhhhh... they've certainly not changed your non-existant sense of humor... uhhh!

Re:You mean you can cripple it more? (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8221293)

HAHahAHAHAHA! HE IS suggesting THAT it has always been THAT way!!!111 You know, that Windowes never had any functionality!!1111 That is so funney because we all use Lunix here!! ehehehhahahahaha, I can't stop laughing!!!!111111 pleez shoot me it hurts!!!1

Re:You mean you can cripple it more? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8221163)

yeah, make it work more like linux

Re:You mean you can cripple it more? (1, Funny)

SIG TR0LL (749566) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221202)

So, you mean they will bundle a complete office suite (openoffice.org), web server (apache), image authoring program (gimp) irc client (xchat, bitchx), several web browsers, two desktop environments, and a partridge in a pear tree?

Shoot them the URL to Knoppix while you're at it (1)

Wunderbar! (741010) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221181)

I guess the choice would be easy.

Re:You mean you can cripple it more? (5, Interesting)

ramzak2k (596734) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221189)

I would like to get my hands on one of these if it does not include all the applications i dont need - windows messenger , internet explorer, Outlook express. Just the basic UI. I can customize it the way i need. Lesser the functionality, more secure the box will be.

Re:You mean you can cripple it more? (0)

SIG TR0LL (749566) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221235)

or at least make it like linux/bsd where you can remove what you don't need. konqueror can be uninstalled easily from a linux system, IE is impossible to remove

Re:You mean you can cripple it more? (5, Interesting)

jay-oh-eee! (750468) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221311)

It's funny, people complain about how MS forces you to install everything (IE, Outlook, etc) and call in "anti-competitive" and when they offer it somewhere with these things stripped out it's called "crippled". There's no winning the article poster or OP, it seems.

Re:You mean you can cripple it more? (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8221314)

I would like to get my hands on one of these if it does not include all the applications i dont need - windows messenger , internet explorer, Outlook express. Just the basic UI. I can customize it the way i need. Lesser the functionality, more secure the box will be.

It sounds like you want windows XP embedded. For the embedded market, MS lets you pick & choose which parts of the OS you want.

Strangely enough, MS also says that this is completely impossible for the regular version, and that IE cannot be separated from the OS.

Re:You mean you can cripple it more? (1)

Snowspinner (627098) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221226)

There's something very sad when comments I write shooting for funny get moderated insightful. =/

Re:You mean you can cripple it more? (-1, Troll)

Doomrat (615771) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221255)

It's sad that you're such an insolent, inbred, socially inept little fucker that you dared to think this was funny in the first place.

Re:You mean you can cripple it more? (0, Offtopic)

DrLZRDMN (728996) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221281)

Its sad that you and the other trolls hate slashdot so much yet, spend more time on it then me.

Re:You mean you can cripple it more? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8221292)

Try hitting the "Post Anonymously" flag next time. Not only will people not think "Doomrat - what a sociopath", but those of us interested in discussion who have the default settings will not have to wade through your comment.

Win95 core??? (1)

Prof.Phreak (584152) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221256)

It's possible to wring even less functionality out of Windows XP?

I guess they can make a special "win95 core" version of XP... sorta like a renamed WinME :-)

Re:You mean you can cripple it more? (0)

macmaniac (734596) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221354)

Perhaps "light" means "we took out all the parts that make it quasi-functional to begin with" along with the usual connotation of leaving a bad taste in your mouth from its use....

you FAIL it (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8221157)

I pre-emptively FAIL IT!

Slightly Crippled? (4, Funny)

Phosphor3k (542747) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221158)

Sounds like an improvement. Thats about three steps less crippled than my version, and cheaper to boot!

Re:Slightly Crippled? (3, Funny)

bersl2 (689221) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221242)

Oh, so you only have to put in a dime, instead of a quarter, when you reboot?

THE INTERNATIONAL JEW (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8221159)

The International Jew, by Henry Ford
Volume One: The International Jew

"Among the distinguishing mental and moral traits of the Jews may be mentioned: distaste for hard or violent physical labor; a strong family sense and philoprogenitiveness; a marked religious instinct; the courage of the prophet and martyr rather than of the pioneer and soldier; remarkable power to survive in adverse environments, combined with great ability to retain racial solidarity; capacity for exploitation, both individual and social; shrewdness and astuteness in speculation and money matters generally; an Oriental love of display and a full appreciation of the power and pleasure of social position; a very high average of intellectual ability."

-- The New International Encyclopedia.

The Jew in Character and Business

The Jew is again being singled out for critical attention throughout the world. His emergence in the financial, political and social spheres has been so complete and spectacular since the war, that his place, power and purpose in the world are being given a new scrutiny, much of it unfriendly. Persecution is not a new experience to the Jew, but intensive scrutiny of his nature and super-nationality is. He has suffered for more than 2,000 years from what may be called instinctive anti-Semitism of the other races, but this antagonism has never been intelligent nor has it been able to make itself intelligible. Nowadays, however, the Jew is being placed, as it were, under the microscope of economic observation that the reasons for his power, the reasons for his separateness, the reasons for his suffering may be defined and understood.

In Russia he is charged with being the source of Bolshevism, an accusation which is serious or not according to the circle in which it is made; we in America, hearing the fervid eloquence and perceiving the prophetic ardor of young Jewish apostles of social and industrial reform, can calmly estimate how it may be. In Germany he is charged with being the cause of the Empire's collapse and a very considerable literature has sprung up, bearing with it a mass of circumstantial evidence that gives the thinker pause. In England he is charged with being the real world ruler, who rules as a super-nation over the nations, rules by the power of gold, and who plays nation against nation for his own purposes, remaining himself discreetly in the background. In America it is pointed out to what extent the elder Jews of wealth and the younger Jews of ambition swarmed through the war organizations -- principally those departments which dealt with the commercial and industrial business of war, and also the extent to which they have clung to the advantage which their experience as agents of the government gave them.

In simple words, the question of the Jews has come to the fore, but like other questions which lend themselves to prejudice, efforts will be made to hush it up as impolitic for open discussion. If, however, experience has taught us anything it is that questions thus suppressed will sooner or later break out in undesirable and unprofitable forms.

The Jew is the world's enigma. Poor in his masses, he yet controls the world's finances. Scattered abroad without country or government, he yet presents a unity of race continuity which no other people has achieved. Living under legal disabilities in almost every land, he has become the power behind many a throne. There are ancient prophecies to the effect that the Jew will return to his own land and from that center rule the world, though not until he has undergone an assault by the united nations of mankind.

The single description which will include a larger percentage of Jews than members of any other race is this: he is in business. It may be only gathering rags and selling them, but he is in business. From the sale of old clothes to the control of international trade and finance, the Jew is supremely gifted for business. More than any other race he exhibits a decided aversion to industrial employment, which he balances by an equally decided adaptability to trade. The Gentile boy works his way up, taking employment in the productive or technical departments; but the Jewish boy prefers to begin as messenger, salesman or clerk -- anything -- so long as it is connected with the commercial side of the business. An early Prussian census illustrates this characteristic: of a total population of 269,400, the Jews comprised six per cent or 16,164. Of these, 12,000 were traders and 4,164 were workmen. Of the Gentile population, the other 94 per cent, or 153,236 people, there were only 17,000 traders.

A modern census would show a large professional and literary class added to the traders, but no diminution of the percentage of traders and not much if any increase in the number of wage toilers. In America alone most of the big business, the trusts and the banks, the natural resources and the chief agricultural products, especially tobacco, cotton and sugar, are in the control of Jewish financiers or their agents. Jewish journalists are a large and powerful group here. "Large numbers of department stores are held by Jewish firms," says the Jewish Encyclopedia, and many if not most of them are run under Gentile names. Jews are the largest and most numerous landlords of residence property in the country. They are supreme in the theatrical world. They absolutely control the circulation of publications throughout the country. Fewer than any race whose presence among us is noticeable, they receive daily an amount of favorable publicity which would be impossible did they not have the facilities for creating and distributing it themselves. Werner Sombart, in his "Jew and Modern Capitalism" says, "If the conditions in America continue to develop along the same lines as in the last generation, if the immigration statistics and the proportion of births among all the nationalities remain the same, our imagination may picture the United States of fifty or a hundred years hence as a land inhabited only by Slavs, Negroes and Jews, wherein the Jews will naturally occupy the position of economic leadership." Sombart is a pro-Jewish writer.

The question is, If the Jew is in control, how did it happen? This is a free country. The Jew comprises only about three per cent of the population; to every Jew there are 97 Gentiles; to the 3,000,000 Jews in the United States there are 97,000,000 Gentiles. If the Jew is in control, is it because of his superior ability, or is it because of the inferiority and don't-care attitude of the Gentiles?

It would be very simple to answer that the Jews came to America, took their chances like other people and proved more successful in the competitive struggle. But that would not include all the facts. And before a more adequate answer can be given, two points should be made clear. This first is this: all Jews are not rich controllers of wealth. There are poor Jews aplenty, though most of them even in their poverty are their own masters. While it may be true that the chief financial controllers of the country are Jews, it is not true that every Jew is one of the financial controllers of the country. The classes must be kept distinct for a reason which will appear when the methods of the rich Jews and the methods of the poor Jews to gain power are differentiated. Secondly; the fact of Jewish solidarity renders it difficult to measure Gentile and Jewish achievements by the same standard. When a great block of wealth in America was made possible by the lavish use of another block of wealth from across the seas; that is to say, when certain Jewish immigrants came to the United States with the financial backing of European Jewry behind them, it would be unfair to explain the rise of that class of immigration by the same rules which account for the rise of, say, the Germans or the Poles who came here with no resource but their ambition and strength. To be sure, many individual Jews come in that way, too, with no dependence but themselves, but it would not be true to say that the massive control of affairs which is exercised by Jewish wealth was won by individual initiative; it was rather the extension of financial control across the sea.

That, indeed, is where any explanation of Jewish control must begin. Here is a race whose entire period of national history saw them peasants on the land, whose ancient genius was spiritual rather than material, bucolic rather than commercial, yet today, when they have no country, no government, and are persecuted in one way or another everywhere they go, they are declared to be the principal though unofficial rulers of the earth. How does so strange a charge arise, and why do so many circumstances seem to justify it?

Begin at the beginning. During the formative period of their national character the Jews lived under a law which made plutocracy and pauperism equally impossible among them. Modern reformers who are constructing model social systems on paper would do well to look into the social system under which the early Jews were organized. The Law of Moses made a "money aristocracy," such as Jewish financiers form today, impossible because it forbade the taking of interest. It made impossible also the continuous enjoyment of profit wrung out of another's distress. Profiteering and sheer speculation were not favored under the Jewish system. There could be no land-hogging; the land was apportioned among the people, and though it might be lost by debt or sold under stress, it was returned every 50 years to its original family ownership, at which time, called "The Year of Jubilee," there was practically a new social beginning. The rise of great landlords and a moneyed class was impossible under such a system, although the interim of 50 years gave ample scope for individual initiative to assert itself under fair competitive conditions.

If, therefore, the Jews had retained their status as a nation, and had remained in Palestine under the Law of Moses, they would hardly have achieved the financial distinction which they have since won. Jews never got rich out of one another. Even in modern times they have not become rich out of each other but out of the nations among whom they dwelt. Jewish law permitted the Jew to do business with a Gentile on a different basis than that on which he did business with a brother Jew. What is called "the Law of the Stranger" was defined thus: "unto a stranger thou mayest lend upon usury; but unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon usury."

Being dispersed among the nations, but never merging themselves with the nations and never losing a very distinctive identity, the Jew has had the opportunity to practice "the ethics of the stranger" for many centuries. Being strangers among strangers, and often among cruelly hostile strangers, they have found this law a compensating advantage. Still, this alone would not account for the Jew's preeminence in finance. The explanation of that must be sought in the Jew himself, his vigor, resourcefulness and special proclivities.

Very early in the Jewish story we discover the tendency of Israel to be a master nation, with other nations as its vassals. Notwithstanding the fact that the whole prophetic purpose with reference to Israel seems to have been the moral enlightenment of the world through its agency, Israel's "will to mastery" apparently hindered that purpose. At least such would seem to be the tone of the Old Testament. Divinely ordered to drive out the Canaanites that their corrupt ideas might not contaminate Israel, the Jews did not obey, according to the old record. They looked over the Canaanitish people and perceived what great amount of man-power would be wasted if they were expelled, and so Israel enslaved them -- "And it came to pass, when Israel was strong, that they put the Canaanites to tribute, and did not utterly drive them out." It was this form of disobedience, this preference of material mastery over spiritual leadership, that marked the beginning of Israel's age-long disciplinary distress.

The Jews' dispersion among the nations temporarily (that is, for more than 25 centuries now) changed the program which their scriptures declare was divinely planned, and that dispersion continues until today. There are spiritual leaders in modern Judaism who still claim that Israel's mission to the nations is spiritual, but their assertions that Israel is today fulfilling that mission are not as convincing as they might be if accompanied by more evidence. Israel, throughout the modern centuries is still looking at the Gentile world and estimating what its man-power can be made to yield. But the discipline upon Israel still holds; he is an exile from his own land, condemned to be discriminated against wherever he goes, until the time when exile and homelessness shall end in a re-established Palestine, and Jerusalem again the moral center of the earth, even as the elder prophets have declared.

Had the Jew become an employe, a worker for other men, his dispersion would not probably have been so wide. But becoming a trader, his instincts drew him round the habitable earth. There were Jews in China at an early date. They appeared as traders in England at the time of the Saxons. Jewish traders were in South America 100 years before the Pilgrim Fathers landed at Plymouth Rock. Jews established the sugar industry in the Island of St. Thomas in 1492. They were well established in Brazil when only a few villages dotted the eastern coast of what is now the United States. And how far they penetrated when once they came here is indicated by the fact that the first white child born in Georgia was a Jew -- Isaac Minis. The Jew's presence round the earth, his clannishness with his own people, made him a nation scattered among the nations, a corporation with agents everywhere.

Another talent, however, contributed greatly to his rise in financial power -- his ability to invent new devices for doing business. Until the Jew was pitted against the world, business was very crudely done. And when we trace the origins of many of the business methods which simplify and facilitate trade today, more likely than not we find a Jewish name at the end of the clue. Many of the indispensable instruments of credit and exchange were thought out by Jewish merchants, not only for use between themselves, but to check and hold the Gentiles with whom they dealt. The oldest bill of exchange extant was drawn by a Jew -- one Simon Rubens. The promissory note was a Jewish invention, as was also the check "payable to bearer."

An interesting bit of history attaches to the "payable to bearer" instrument. The Jews' enemies were always stripping them of their last ounce of wealth, yet strangely, the Jews recovered very quickly and were soon rich again. How this sudden recovery from looting and poverty? Their assets were concealed under "bearer" and so a goodly portion was always saved. In an age when it was lawful for any pirate to seize goods consigned to Jews, the Jews were able to protect themselves by consigning goods on policies that bore no names.

The influence of the Jew was to center business around goods instead of persons. Previously all claims had been against persons; the Jew knew that the goods were more reliable than the persons with whom he dealt, and so he contrived to have claims laid against goods. Besides, this device enabled him to keep himself out of sight as much as possible. This introduced an element of hardness into business, inasmuch as it was goods which were being dealt in rather than men being dealt with, and this hardness remains. Another tendency which survives and which is of advantage in veiling the very large control which Jews have attained, is of the same origin as "bearer" bills; it permits a business dominated by Jewish capital to appear under a name that gives no hint of Jewish control.

The Jew is the only and original international capitalist, but as a rule he prefers not to emblazon that fact upon the skies; he prefers to use Gentile banks and trust companies as his agents and instruments. The suggestive term "Gentile front" often appears in connection with this practice.

The invention of the stock exchange is also credited to Jewish financial talent. In Berlin, Paris, London, Frankfort, and Hamburg, Jews were in control of the first stock exchanges, while Venice and Genoa were openly referred to in the talk of the day as "Jew cities" where great trading and banking facilities might be found. The Bank of England was established upon the counsel and assistance of Jewish emigrants from Holland. The Bank of Amsterdam and the Bank of Hamburg both arose through Jewish influence.

There is a curious fact to be noted in connection with the persecution and consequent wanderings of the Jews about Europe and that is: wherever they wandered, the center of business seemed to go with them. When the Jews were free in Spain, there was the world's gold center. When Spain drove out the Jews, Spain lost financial leadership and has never regained it. Students of the economic history of Europe have always been puzzled to discover why the center of trade should have shifted from Spain, Portugal and Italy, up to the northern countries of Holland, Germany, and England. They have sought for the cause in many things, but none has proved completely explanatory. When, however, it is known that the change was coincident with the expulsion of the Jews from the South and their flight to the North, when it is known that upon the Jews' arrival the northern countries began a commercial life which has flourished until our day, the explanation does not seem difficult. Time and again it has proved to be the fact that when the Jews were forced to move, the center of the world's precious metals moved with them.

This distribution of the Jews over Europe and the world, each Jewish community linked in a fellowship of blood, faith and suffering with every other group, made it possible for the Jew to be international in the sense that no other race or group of merchants could be at that time. Not only were they everywhere (Americans and Russians are everywhere, too) but they were in touch. They were organized before the days of conscious international commercial organizations, they were bound together by the sinews of a common life. It was observed by many writers in the Middle Ages that the Jews knew more of what was transpiring in Europe than the governments did. They also had better knowledge of what was likely to occur. They knew more about conditions than the statesmen did. This information they imparted by letter from group to group, country to country. Indeed, they may be said thus to have originated unconsciously the financial news-letter. Certainly the information they were able to obtain and thus distribute was invaluable to them in their speculative enterprises. Advance knowledge was an immense advantage in the days when news was scarce, slow and unreliable.

This enabled Jewish financiers to become the agents of national loans, a form of business which they encouraged wherever possible. The Jew has always desired to have nations for his customers. National loans were facilitated by the presence of members of the same family of financiers in various countries, thus making an interlocking directorate by which king could be played against king, government against government, and the shrewdest use made of national prejudices and fears, all to the no small profit of the fiscal agent.

One of the charges most commonly made against Jewish financiers today is that they still favor this larger field of finance. Indeed, in all the criticism that is heard regarding the Jew as a business man, there is comparatively little said against him as an individual merchant serving individual customers. Thousands of small Jewish merchants are highly respected by their trade, just as tens of thousands of Jewish families are respected as our neighbors. The criticism, insofar as it respects the more important financiers, is not racial at all. Unfortunately the element of race, which so easily lends itself to misinterpretation as racial prejudice, is injected into the question by the mere fact that the chain of international finance as it is traced around the world discloses at every link a Jewish capitalist, financial family, or a Jewish-controlled banking system. Many have professed to see in this circumstance a conscious organization of Jewish power for Gentile control, while others have attributed the circumstance to Jewish racial sympathies, to the continuity of their family affairs down the line of descent, and to the increase of collateral branches. In the old Scriptural phrase, Israel grows as the vine grows, ever shooting out new branches and deepening old roots, but always part of the one vine.

The Jew's aptitude for dealing with governments may also be traced to the years of his persecution. He early learned the power of gold in dealing with mercenary enemies. Wherever he went there followed him like a curse the aroused antipathy of other peoples. The Jew was never popular as a race; even the most fervid Jew will not deny that, howsoever he may explain it. Individuals have been popular, of course; many phases of Jewish nature are found to be very lovable when known; but nevertheless one of the burdens the Jews have had to bear as a race is this burden of racial unpopularity. Even in modern times, in civilized countries, in conditions which render persecution absolutely impossible, this unpopularity exists. And what is more, the Jew has not seemed to care to cultivate the friendship of the Gentile masses, due perhaps to the failures of experience, but due more likely to his inborn persuasion that he belongs to a superior race. Whatever the true reason, he has always placed his main dependence on cultivating friendship with kings and nobles. What cared the Jew if the people gnashed their teeth against him, so long as the king and the court were his friends? Thus there was always, even through most of the severely trying times, "a court Jew," one who had bought by loans and held by the strangle-hold of debt an entrance to the king's chamber. The policy of the Jews has always been to "go to headquarters." They never tried to placate the Russian people, but they did endeavor to enlist the Russian court. They never tried to placate the German people, but they did succeed in permeating the German court. In England they shrug their shoulders at the outspoken anti-Jew reactions of the British populace -- what care they? Have they not all of lorddom at their heels, do they not hold the strings of Britain's purse?

Through this ability of theirs to "go to headquarters" it is possible to account for the stronghold they got upon various governments and nations. Added to this ability was, of course, the ability to produce what the governments wanted. If a government wanted a loan, the Jew at court could arrange it through Jews at other financial centers and political capitals. If one government wanted to pay another government a debt without risking the precious metal to a mule train through a robber-infested country, the Jew at court arranged that too. He transferred a piece of paper and the debt was paid by the banking house at the foreign capital. The first time an army was ever fed in the modern commissary way, it was done by a Jew -- he had the capital and he had the system; moreover he had the delight of having a nation for his customer.

And this tendency, which served the race so well throughout the troublous centuries, shows no sign of abatement. Certainly, seeing to what an extent a race numerically so unimportant influences the various governments of the world today, the Jew who reflects upon the disparity between his people's numbers and their power may be pardoned if he sees in that fact a proof of their racial superiority.

It may be said also that Jewish inventiveness in business devices continues to the present time, as well as Jewish adaptability to changing conditions. The Jew is credited with being the first to establish branch houses in foreign countries in order that responsible representatives of the home office might be on the ground taking instant advantage of every opening. During the war a great deal was said about the "peaceful penetration" which the "German Government" had effected in the United States by establishing here branch offices and factories of German firms. The fact that there were many German branch houses here is unquestionable. It should be known, however, that they were not the evidence of German enterprise but of Jewish enterprise. The old German business houses were too conservative to "run after customers" even in the hustling United States, but the Jewish firms were not, and they came straight to America and hustled. In due time the competition forced the more conservative German firms to follow suit. But the idea was Jewish in its origin, not German.

Another modern business method whose origin is credited to Jewish financiers is that by which related industries are brought together, as for example, if an electrical power company is acquired, then the street railway company using the electricity would be acquired too, one purpose being in this way to conserve all the profit accruing along the line, from the origination of the power down to the delivery of the street car ride; but perhaps the main purpose being that, by the control of the power house the price of current could be increased to the car company, and by the control of the car company the cost of a ride could be increased to the public, the controllers thus receiving an additional profit all down the line. There is much of this going on in the world today, and in the United States particularly. The portion of the business immediately next to the ultimate consumer explains that its costs have risen, but it does not explain that the costs were increased by the owners and not by outsiders who were forced to do so by economic pressure.

There is apparently in the world today a central financial force which is playing a vast and closely organized game, with the world for its table and universal control for its stakes. The people of civilized countries have lost all confidence in the explanation that "economic conditions" are responsible for all the changes that occur. Under the camouflage of "economic law" a great many phenomena have been accounted for which were not due to any law whatever except the law of the selfish human will as operated by a few men who have the purpose and the power to work on a wide scale with nations as their vassals.

Whatever else may be national, no one today believes that finance is national. Finance is international. Nobody today believes that international finance is in any way competitive. There are some independent banking houses, but few strong independent ones. The great masters, the few whose minds see clearly the entire play of the plan, control numerous banking houses and trust companies, and one is used for this while another is used for that, but there is no disharmony between them, no correction of each other's methods, no competition in the interests of the business world. There is as much unity of policy between the principal banking houses of every country as there is between the various branches of the United States Post Office -- and for the same reason, namely, they are all operated from the same source and for the same purpose.

Just before the war Germany bought very heavily in American cotton and had huge quantities of it tied up here for export. When war came, the ownership of that mountainous mass of cotton wealth changed in one night from Jewish names in Hamburg to Jewish names in London. At this writing cotton is selling in England for less than it is selling in the United States, and the effect of that is to lower the American price. When the price lowers sufficiently, the market is cleared of cotton by buyers previously prepared, and then the price soars to high figures again. In the meantime, the same powers that have engineered the apparently causeless strengthening and weakening of the cotton market, have seized upon stricken Germany to be the sweatshop of the world. Certain groups control the cotton, lend it to Germany to be manufactured, leave a pittance of it there in payment for the labor that was used, and then profiteer the length and breadth of the world on the lie that "cotton is scarce." And when, tracing all these anti-social and colossally unfair methods to their source, it is found that the responsible parties all have a common characteristic, is it any wonder that the warning which comes across the sea -- "Wait until America becomes awake to the Jew!" -- has a new meaning?

Certainly, economic reasons no longer explain the condition in which the world finds itself today. Neither does the ordinary explanation of "the heartlessness of capital." Capital has endeavored as never before to meet the demands of labor, and labor has gone to extremes in leading capital to new concessions -- but what has it advantaged either of them? Labor has heretofore thought that capital was the sky over it, and it made the sky yield, but behold, there was yet an higher sky which neither capital nor labor had seen in their struggles one with another. That sky is so far unyielding.

That which we call capital here in America is usually money used in production, and we mistakenly refer to the manufacturer, the manager of work, the provider of tools and jobs -- we refer to him as the "capitalist." Oh, no. He is not the capitalist in the real sense. Why, he himself must go to capitalists for the money with which to finance his plans. There is a power yet above him -- a power which treats him far more callously and holds him in a more ruthless hand than he would ever dare display to labor. That, indeed, is one of the tragedies of these times, that "labor" and "capital" are fighting each other, when the conditions against which each one of them protests, and from which each one of them suffers, is not within their power to remedy at all, unless they find a way to wrest world control from that group of international financiers who create and control both these conditions.

There is a super-capitalism which is supported wholly by the fiction that gold is wealth. There is a super-government which is allied to no government, which is free from them all, and yet which has its hand in them all. There is a race, a part of humanity, which has never yet been received as a welcome part, and which has succeeded in raising itself to a power that the proudest Gentile race has never claimed -- not even Rome in the days of her proudest power. It is becoming more and more the conviction of men all over the world that the labor question, the wage question, the land question cannot be settled until first of all this matter of an international super-capitalistic government is settled.

"To the victor belongs the spoils" is an old saying. And in a sense it is true that if all this power of control has been gained and held by a few men of a long-despised race, then either they are super-men whom it is powerless to resist, or they are ordinary men whom the rest of the world has permitted to obtain an undue and unsafe degree of power. Unless the Jews are super-men, the Gentiles will have themselves to blame for what has transpired, and they can look for rectification in a new scrutiny of the situation and a candid examination of the experiences of other countries.

Less Bang for the Bok (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8221162)

Unlike the hookers, who give you more bang for your k...

Re:Less Bang for the Bok (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8221188)

Ever been to Thailand? The chicks are AWESOME! I didn't get around to actually fuck one when I was there but I'm definitely going back. ;-)

Re:Less Bang for the Bok (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8221248)

Hope springs eternal

Re:Less Bang for the Bok (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8221269)

100% ACK. Many of the girls there are better than what you could fuck over here, even if you looked good.

slightly crippled version (5, Funny)

frovingslosh (582462) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221167)

slightly crippled version of Windows XP

Boy, how can I buy this. I would much rather have a slightly crippled version rather than the massively crippled version that Microsoft supplied my OEM for use with my notebook.

But Wait... (5, Funny)

Mr. Fusion (235351) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221168)

Didn't they already released Windows XP Home?

-Mr. Fusion

Re:But Wait... (2, Interesting)

AKnightCowboy (608632) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221282)

Didn't they already released Windows XP Home?


Try reading the article. Windows XP Home was still too expensive for these users in Thailand. I seriously doubt you'll be able to get it outside of some OEM deals on computers sold in Thailand so I wouldn't get so enthused over this.

Re:But Wait... (4, Interesting)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221299)

The pro-Linux camps, however, have something to worry about here. Basically, Microsoft is willing to create a cut-rate version of XP rather than risk the users there switching over to Linux....

Microsoft Plan (5, Funny)

GonzoDave (743486) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221174)

1.Release product in piracy capital of the world
2.?????
3.Profit!

How to have both... (5, Interesting)

Foolhardy (664051) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221179)

Microsoft is notorious for bundling things to cause lock-in.
How are they going to balance that with creating a light version of XP?

Re:How to have both... (3, Funny)

Aneurysm9 (723000) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221225)

Sounds like the last line of the article covered that. They're going to provide a "clear upgrade path" to XP Home and Pro. Sure, "we clear your bank account and you get to upgrade."

Jeez, this article's pretty scant on details. (0)

James A. E. Joyce (746360) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221180)

It doesn't even say why Microsoft is doing it: concerns about piracy? relative crappiness of Thai computers? price concerns?

Re:Jeez, this article's pretty scant on details. (-1, Redundant)

Limburgher (523006) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221190)

relative crappiness of Windows XP?

Re:Jeez, this article's pretty scant on details. (4, Insightful)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221200)

It implies that the reason Microsoft is coming up with this "light" product is because US$99 is too expensive, so they need to come up with a way of slashing the price there without the rest of the world crying foul...

Re:Jeez, this article's pretty scant on details. (3, Insightful)

Limburgher (523006) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221278)

Reminds me of US pharmaceutical companies charging some countries more than others for some drugs. Like HIV drugs, for example.

why do it? (5, Insightful)

monadicIO (602882) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221183)

The article says "
because of the complexity of an operating system, reducing functionality was not a simple process and every modification would have to be thoroughly tested.
So why would it make sense to spend more money in making these reductions? Why not just give the standard package? I'm missing something here.

Re:why do it? (1, Informative)

cgranade (702534) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221206)

The article also says that there will be an easy upgrade path to XPH and XPP. Also, this project is endorsed by the gov't of Taiwan to try and bring computing to the masses. I can see MS happy to take a deep loss on this one. Even piracy wouldn't be too bad here, as it would start the MS monoculture momentum.

Re:why do it? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8221296)

Also, this project is endorsed by the gov't of Taiwan
Article makes no mention of Taiwan.

Re:why do it? (4, Interesting)

s20451 (410424) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221220)

Am I the only one who thinks this is to keep Linux and other free operating systems out of third world countries? In that sense it would be a strategic move.

Looks like Microsoft is finally listening to their poorer customers.

Re:why do it? (4, Insightful)

DrEldarion (114072) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221228)

So why would it make sense to spend more money in making these reductions? Why not just give the standard package? I'm missing something here

Very simple.

User buys XP Lite, uses it for a while, and then decides he needs all the functionality. User then buys XP Home/Pro.

They have now bought two copies of the OS. Money++ for Microsoft.

Re:why do it? (1)

MattCohn.com (555899) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221233)

Because they're also going to sell the regular version of XP? This happens all the time, with hardware too. Like USB flash drives... it's cheaper for a company to manufacture only 256MB Modules but then to switch some jumper and sell them as 128MB then it is to manufacture 128's and 256's.

Re:why do it? (1)

lambent (234167) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221262)


Intriguing ... so what brand and model of USB drive can I buy and convert to 256?

Thats great... (0, Flamebait)

hatrisc (555862) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221187)

if crippled means, getting rid of internet explorer, the windows kernel, and everything else, and replacing it with, linux 2.6.2, gnome 2.4....

Re:Thats great... (3, Insightful)

Ianoo (711633) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221304)

But that wouldn't be very crippled, would it...

Seriously, as a ardent Linux user and open source zealot, even I admit that Windows XP is a bit more user friendly for beginners. But removing more functionality than already has been removed in XP Home? Gnome and KDE will be more than a match for this setup, I'm sure.

As if Thailand cares anyway, who's going to pay $30 for Windows XP Neutered when you can go down to your local "store" and buy Windows 2003 Advanced Datacenter Server for a dollar?

Re:Thats great... (4, Insightful)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221310)

if crippled means, getting rid of internet explorer, the windows kernel, and everything else, and replacing it with, linux 2.6.2, gnome 2.4....

Bingo... Microsoft is lowering the price for Windows XP to this country because if they didn't, their government would start subsidizing Linux-based PCs. This is Microsoft's last chance to make sure that the standard PC there still runs Windows.

Unfortunately, this will probably sell decently (5, Insightful)

jbardell (677791) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221191)

This is quite the desperate attempt by MS to obtain a larger share of the world OS market. Hopefully those in Bangkok will learn that there's an un-crippled, stable, fast operating system [linux.org] out there already, and it's FREE.

Thailand, not just Bangkok (1)

jbardell (677791) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221212)

Make that Thailand, not just Bankok. That's what happens when you rush to post :)

Thailand... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8221192)

...where the ILoveYou worm was named MeLoveYouLongTime

Re:Thailand... ^MOD UP^ (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8221359)

ROFL!!!!

Man is that funny.

Slightly Crippled? (5, Funny)

no longer myself (741142) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221195)

Oh come on... With a headline like this, it's just too easy.

Slightly Crippled?
Yeah, it comes pre-installed with 14 viruses.

Slightly Crippled?
It's product activation is 30 days expired.

Slightly Crippled?
It's the latest version.

Slightly Crippled?
They wrote it using .NET

Slightly Crippled?
But it comes with a free Frogurt.

Damn... I could keep this up all night.

Thailand first, the world second (1)

CrackedButter (646746) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221196)

You watch how fast that version leaves that country, home to some of the biggest software pirates on the planet! Everybody will want it just like everybody wants an Office lite as well.

Re:Thailand first, the world second (5, Insightful)

tftp (111690) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221224)

If this OS comes in Thai language only, then only people familiar with the language can use it. Thai is notoriously complex.

Re:Thailand first, the world second (2, Insightful)

CrackedButter (646746) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221247)

You would still need english since it is the most widely used language on the planet. However if they did only install the Thai language packs then it will deter some peoples from getting it. However i suspect a hack would sort that out before the first alpha is announced.

Re:Thailand first, the world second (3, Interesting)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221332)

It's highly likely that one of the tweaks they're making to this "light" version is to lock it to the Thai language. If you want to use English, you must upgrade to the full-price XP Home at whatever the local equal to US$99 is...

Wait for it! (4, Funny)

aztektum (170569) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221204)

And now we present to you a hundred jokes about Windows already being crippled and a hundred more forshadowing jokes about Windows being crippled.

(Not too unlike this one)

What's the difference? (5, Interesting)

pilot1 (610480) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221208)

Yes, I did RTFA, and it said nothing about what would be different between the "light" version and the normal version.

Is it going to have fewer M$ programs bundled with it or what? And if it is, what the hell isn't too tightly integrated for them to remove? Solitare and pinball?

Give me a break (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8221210)

If they think this will stop people from pirating in Thailand try again. That is like telling a pirate in the US that Windows XP Home is $200 but you can get a 'light' version for $40 or $50.

The pirates will still pirate! DUH

It happened with music. People bantered this whole "when the music companies get a realistic business model and stop charging highway robbery for 1 or 2 good songs yada yada and rest is filler". When iTunes and other services popped up "copyright infringement" (as they candidly call it) didn't stop or slow down. That was just the vocal point they argued for now they will find something else. Before it was fair use. Next it will be "I don't think artist x deserves a mansion so I can judge how much is enough for them" or some crud.

Re:Give me a break (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8221260)

Agree 100% with parent

The truth hurts doesn't it?

Less Bloat? (0, Redundant)

cybermint (255744) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221211)

Does this mean they are removing all the bloated features that no one actually uses? Or are they just disabling them and leaving the bloat in place?

Addiction (5, Interesting)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221214)

Customers of this new entry level version of Windows would be presented with a clear and easy upgrade path to both Windows XP Home or Windows XP Professional, he added.

In France, tobacco companies have started selling packs of cigarettes containing only 19 cigarettes instead of 20. A "crippled" pack of smokes in a sense. Why? so that those who can't afford full-size packs since the latest price rises (read: kids and teens) can buy the 19 cigarette pack and get hooked.

Sounds like Microsoft is doing exactly that with poor countries: snare customers then pull on the knot. "buy our cheapo limited software, then when you need more functionalities, it'll be a lot more expensive to ditch Microsoft and go for free-software than pay for the Microsoft upgrade".

But I guess it's business as usual, all companies do that sort of thing, not just Microsoft, I'm not shouting evil-M$ here. But I do hope the Thai government sees through the trap ...

Re:Addiction (2, Insightful)

Dan East (318230) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221305)

That makes absolutely no sense at all. So reducing the price by a whopping 5% makes them "affordable"? If they are reducing the price by more than 5% then it is cheaper per cigarette to buy the 19 pack instead of the 20 pack, so the 20 pack would go out of favor.

It would be more shrewd for them to sell a 20 pack that is subdivided into 4 mini-packs. That way a group of friends could all pitch in to by 20 cigarettes, and then they could divvy out the mini-packs of 5.

Dan East

Re:Addiction (3, Interesting)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221357)

That makes absolutely no sense at all. So reducing the price by a whopping 5% makes them "affordable"?

No, but it keeps the price of a pack under the psychological limit of EUR 5. Over that price, studies have shown that people are much more reluctant to buy.

Re:Addiction (1)

batkiwi (137781) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221323)

Got any sort of link or proof?

If you'd have said they were selling 5 packs, I'd believe you, but a 19 pack is going to cose 95% as much as a 20 pack, not a make-or-break amount.

Re:Addiction (1)

jesterzog (189797) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221340)

In France, tobacco companies have started selling packs of cigarettes containing only 19 cigarettes instead of 20. A "crippled" pack of smokes in a sense. Why? so that those who can't afford full-size packs since the latest price rises (read: kids and teens) can buy the 19 cigarette pack and get hooked.

Perhaps I'm going off on a tangent, but selling a pack that's only 5% smaller doesn't seem like much of an incentive on its own.

  • How much less do these packs of 19 cigarettes actually cost; and
  • If they're so much cheaper that it's worth buying them instead of getting one extra cigarette, then why isn't everyone buying them instead of the full pack?

Are there other marketing types of factors involved somehow?

So that's what the SCO license was for (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8221217)

They crippled XP by adding some of the code they bought from SCO (you know, the stuff that didn't make it into Linux) :)

1500 baht...? (3, Insightful)

jxliv7 (512531) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221219)

that's 36 US dollars and change.

so exactly what will be the "reduced functionality"?

i'd bet it will have something to do with hardware compatibility.

The missing feature in the "Light" version (5, Funny)

mooredav (101800) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221221)

The End User License Agreement won't have a "disagree" option.

The only thing I like about M$.. (-1)

RoadkillBunny (662203) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221229)

...is that they keep stuff consistent and Joe Sixpack dosn't have to choose from a big variety. It's different with Linux, since Joe would have to take a look at a lot of distros to decide which one to use. But with Windows it WAS only one newest version. Microsoft now gives out many types of XPs (Home,Pro, and soon to come Light) like Linux has a lot of distros. How could a average Joe figure out which edition to choose?

My question is... (1)

mishehu (712452) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221232)

Does this mean they get rid of that obnoxious dog?
If so, maybe I'll study Thai... *grin*

Fighting Piracy For Dummies (5, Insightful)

B2K3 (669124) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221236)

Software publishers in Thailand have begun to realize the huge popularity of pirated software in Thailand: the extreme price differential. You might be able to sell $100 software elsewhere, but when you are selling the $100 software a few feet away from someone selling a pirated copy for $5, what is the rational consumer going to do? Video game manufactures now produce Thai versions of games, complete with a Thai installation manual and even Thai ingame instructions, for only a a few dollars more than the street price of a pirated version. If someone isn't willing to pay 20 times more for the real version, perhaps they're willing to pay only 3 times more. Disclaimer: I was an American who I lived in Thailand for five years. Has anyone else gone shopping at Panthip Plaza?

Re:Fighting Piracy For Dummies (3, Insightful)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221331)

..actually what they have to realise is that when it's practically impossible for you to pay that 100$ is a substantial amount of your monthly income you're not that likely to spend it on software.

the current prices for them is like if microsoft was asking 3000$ for copy of windows to run on something that you already paid your arm, leg, lungs, both kidneys and liver for.

.

Re:Fighting Piracy For Dummies (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8221339)

It's more like 2 bucks for software and $2.5 for game (per CD).

Sure Thai loves to play video games, but they are not gonna pay American price for it. Even videogame consoles come with preinstalled modchip, I doubt that any sane Thai would buy a retail version of anything.

Translation: Linux is winning there (1)

the_skywise (189793) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221237)

Thailand appears to be pretty much going the Linux route so Microsoft wants to compete, but can't drop the prices of their software without violating their own pricing contracts with other nations? (I'm fuzzy on that part)

So they can remove a feature or two from Windows Home (my guess? Windows activation and automatic upgrading), call it crippled and then give it away to combat Linux.

Simply put... (1, Redundant)

MoeMoe (659154) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221243)

...slightly crippled version of Windows XP for Thailand.

In other words, it will take less time to hit BSOD...

Re:Simply put... (1)

NanoGator (522640) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221265)

"In other words, it will take less time to hit BSOD... "

Tee hee giggle snort, never mind that BSODs are virtually non-existent in XP and 2K, they're still funneeeee!

Re:Simply put... (1)

daverabbitz (468967) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221344)

This is simply Not true, I've been spending all morning trying to get Windows 2k working,
I turned my machine on in the morning BSOD, reboot, darn there's that BSOD again, Start linux, reformat C:, install Win2k, Disk error nuts, reinstall it again, another disk error, and no my hard-drive isn't broken it's just windows fscking my partition table. so Windows 2000 don't have BSOD must be I'm using a different W2k Professional to you.

Re:Simply put... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8221268)

Since Windows 2000 was first installed on my PC, and upgraded with XP Pro and after nearly 5 years of heavy audio/video/graphic/net production usage, I have seen the BSOD exactly 0(zero) times.

Keep the dream alive buddy, I admire that.

It is NOT Cheaper! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8221246)

It ends up being twice the price because of the wheelchair!

News? (0, Flamebait)

WernerStormcrow (675682) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221258)

The article is dated Wednesday 04 February 2004. So this is more like News for Nerds. Stuff that mattered.

Also, I guess they just want to get rid of some old Windows 2000 CDs by putting an "XP light" bumper sticker on them and selling them to less developed countries. It's like selling crap to the poor.

In fact, it is selling crap to the poor, now that I think about it.

Re:News? (0, Offtopic)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221290)

The article is dated Wednesday 04 February 2004. So this is more like News for Nerds. Stuff that mattered.
--8

Come to think of it, you get stale news on Slashdot but you don't pay for them, so it's like selling crap to the poor too. Only in this case, the price is right.

Slightly crippled Windows (1)

vandelais (164490) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221279)

only means that all of the solitaire games are unwinnable.

Branching? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8221283)

In acient times, the prices were based on effort to make product demand and competition in the market. In recent times, the company has to make an *additional* effort to start to sell his product for lower price Ism't something rotten in this society based on monopolies and all this marketing-branching-advertizing bullshit arround?

1500 baht doesn't buy much... (5, Informative)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221286)

What this article is leaving out because it wasn't writen for a USA audience is that 1500 baht is roughly equal to US$35-40 depending on where exchange rates are.

Thailand's People PC project is a government effort to try to get the price of a PC to be affordable for the average person there. Microsoft's contribution to the project is its willingness to sell both Windows XP Home and Microsoft Office for 1500 baht... US$35-40. Uh oh, that's a drastically lower price then MS is charging the rest of the world, and MS doesn't like to have that kind of inconsistency.

So, that's why they're working on this "light" edition that will have a few things less than XP Home, and therefore be a different product that MS can price seperately.

Of course, the OSS folks can hop in here and point out that going with Linux would cost them 0 baht which converts to US$0... and that's what Microsoft's worried about. Better to get a little money than to risk getting none at all and letting Linux become the standard operating system in Thailand.

This has NO chance of working (4, Informative)

dancingmad (128588) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221294)

I can't speak for Thailand specifically, but I know it's the same as Bangladesh, when I was over there you could get the Longhorn betas pre-burned and with covers and the whole deal. And they cost next to nothing to boost. You could get them at malls, street vendors, Internet cafes. About the only draw back was that the CDs were so cheap they stop working in a few month or so, but that's plenty of time to use it.

Why would the average Thai pay for crippleware when they can already get XP for next to nothing?

Released when and where? (1)

Boiling_point_ (443831) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221300)

This new OS "will be released in limited, selected markets later this year". What's the bet one of the very first markets is the black market at Pantip Plaza [siamfuture.com] ??

In related news... (1)

stuffedmonkey (733020) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221303)

...pirates in Thailand announced that they would continue to sell XP Pro from streetcarts for a dollar a disk.

Thinking Like Microsoft... (1)

codermotor (4585) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221309)

I'll bet one of the first things to go is TCP/IP networking. The CLI interface could disappear. Crippled Multimedia support maybe? Or how about eliminating some of the configuration tools and options. Fewer drivers? Eye candy (what little there is now) including fonts, screen savers, wallpaper, event sounds, themes, etc. will probably disappear.

My guess is Microsoft wants to sell a locked down system where the only upgrade path to new features is through XP Home Edition.

Gates Light (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8221313)

Is it just me, or is Mr. McBean a Gates Light too?!

codenamed (4, Funny)

jjeffries (17675) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221317)

thainy thim

Obligatory "in Soviet Russia joke" (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8221329)

In Thailand, Microsoft cripples Os In Soviet Russia Os Cripples Microsoft?

Possible differences (2, Informative)

venomix (87217) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221333)

If you look at the differences between Xp Home edition and Xp professional, they are mainly in hardware and multiuser support. So, possibly, they may have removed the SMP support and set some kind of RAM/Hdd size limit. I guess they might have removed/decreased the multi user support too.

I'm just guessing, but it seems kind of possible anyway =)

Still pushing "innovation" (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8221335)

The most "substantive" part (technically speaking) of the article was

Mr McBean added that the first release would essentially be XP Home edition with some reduced functionality, although for future versions there would be a chance of additional or incremental development and innovation.

So they are going to release XP Home and then add innovations to reduce the functionality to that of a "lite" version.

May be MS should buy the Thai people XPlite from www.litepc.com instead of spending money on additional innovation. :]

Tastes great ... less filling (2, Funny)

qoquaq (657652) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221341)

Hurry ... hurry ... hurry ... Everyone ... step right up ... see the OS you have come to hate ... 50% less functionality than your competeing free operating system with 100% of the security holes you have come to love!

We will make it so easy to switch over ... no money down ...lock in forever.

Yes ... and over here the dog faced boy .... yes hurry hurry hurry!!!

This is the definition of monopoly (4, Insightful)

nut (19435) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221342)

Microsoft are going to spend money and time devaluing their product to sell it to people who can't afford it at their current price. This from a company that makes a profit of over $1 billion a quarter [ciol.com] .

Go to Pantip (0)

Killjoy_NL (719667) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221346)

When you are in Bangkok, at least check out Pantip Plaza. It's the biggest computer mall I've ever seen in my life. And a lot of stalls sell illegal cd's/dvd's.
The dvd's aren't worth it though. The cd's are :)

btw, last time I was in Bangkok, I bought 6-7 ORIGINAL Utada Hikaru albums for +/- $8 a piece. If I imported them to my place of birth (Schiedam, Netherlands) I would have paid +/- $30 a piece
Those albums had a label on them saying that they could only be sold in Thailand.
This means that the tactics that the thai RIAA (if they have one) are using is:

- CHEAPER CD'S TO COMPETE AGAINST PIRACY

Who would have thought it really could work ??

Brilliant Business! (1)

Sir0x0 (732087) | more than 10 years ago | (#8221355)

Or not. Microsoft is essentially spending extra money to develop a worse version of Windows they can sell cheaper. Instead of wasting no extra money, and selling Windows XP Home for cheaper to customers in Thailand. Then people would bulk order windows from Thailand to save costs? Microsoft has enough economic clout to blacklist anyone who tried selling cheap (legit) copies of Office from Thailand. All in all, I think its a terrible move by Microsoft, so selfish that it costs them extra.
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