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Disney Licenses MS Windows Media DRM

Hemos posted more than 10 years ago | from the so-many-people dept.

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securitas writes "CNet/ZDNet reports that Walt Disney has licensed Microsoft's Windows Media DRM technology for use in online movie distribution via the Internet. Reuters reports that Disney plans to sell movies online in late 2004 or early 2005, while AP reports that the multi-year license for Microsoft's digital rights/restrictions management and copy-protection software will let Disney distribute content on mobile phones, PDAs and portable media players (mirror). The companies are expected to officially announce the deal later today (Monday)." Conspiracy theorists, start your engines; kidding aside, this is something to watch, as these are two titans of industry.

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First Homosexual Jesus Post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8225563)

He wasn't really, you know.

MacSlash ripoff ! (-1)

Adolf Hitroll (562418) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225567)

Slashdoght oughta be more original !
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Phew (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8225571)

Now I can't be forced by relatives to watch Peter pan VI!

wait wait...I must have missed it... (5, Funny)

fjordboy (169716) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225574)

How are the illuminati involved in this again?

Re:wait wait...I must have missed it... (5, Funny)

BlowChunx (168122) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225750)

There is nothing fnord to see fnord here. Move along.

Re:wait wait...I must have missed it... (1)

Popageorgio (723756) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225825)

I don't know, but the digerati turned down my inferior post on the same news item.

Re:wait wait...I must have missed it... (0, Offtopic)

Popageorgio (723756) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225861)

And thus I'll never get Technoratied.

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Not Important (5, Insightful)

Cyclopedian (163375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225580)

Disney is not going to be a "titan" any longer. They're on the decline. Unless Eisner and the current board of directors are gone, Disney will be run into the ground. At that point, we won't have to worry about Disney DRM or their Senate Lackeys.

-Cyc

Re:Not Important (5, Insightful)

NixLuver (693391) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225682)

I agree that the quality of Disney productions is declining, but Disney will continue to be the pre-eminate supplier of Children's content until some one steps up to fill the gap.

Also, let's not forget Touchstone, either. Or their licensing business, which is still doing a stunning trade, judging by the number of Winnie-the-pooh and Tigger products I see.

Turn on PBS instead of the Eisner Channel (1)

tepples (727027) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225776)

Disney will continue to be the pre-eminate supplier of Children's content until some one steps up to fill the gap.

uhhh... What about DreamWorks? What about Paramount's Nickelodeon division? What about PBS affiliates?

Re:Turn on PBS instead of the Eisner Channel (5, Insightful)

NixLuver (693391) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225924)

Lots of good stuff without the marketing dollars behind Disney. I'm not a Disney fan, I assure you, and my child watches PBS and Nick Jr., not the Disney Channel. But we have quite a few of the old Disney movies - can't deprive her of Dumbo and Winne the Pooh :).

I would love to see PBS with the budget that Disney has. :)

Re:Turn on PBS instead of the Eisner Channel (3, Informative)

KD5YPT (714783) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225931)

PBS, not enough budget. Nickelodeon? Don't like it, plus bad drawing. DreamWorks might have something, they got potentials.

Re:Not Important (2, Insightful)

tverbeek (457094) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225693)

Disney's Senate Lackeys have ensured that the company will be able to continue indefinitely on the momentum of its intellectual property rights.

Re:Not Important (5, Insightful)

andih8u (639841) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225738)

Disney was on the decline for a long time in the 70s and 80s, and then picked up again with The Little Mermaid, etc. They're on the decline again with their recent poor animated movies and losing the Pixar contract, but at some point they'll produce another few winners and be back on top of the pile again. Aside from the movies, they still have all of the theme parks and the merchandising.

Re:Not Important (-1, Redundant)

Magada (741361) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225890)

Do NOT fsck with The Mouse. It has bigger balls than most anything on this planet. Many, many politicos and execs have learned this the hard way.

First pr0st (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8225585)

boo

:P (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8225588)

:P

Free Movies for Everyone (5, Funny)

99bottles (257169) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225589)

With Microsoft's record for security, this should help assure free [Disney] movies available to anyone who wants them.

Re:Free Movies for Everyone (5, Funny)

physicsboy500 (645835) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225702)

"this should help assure free [Disney] movies available to anyone who wants them."

I sense nobody is jumping for joy.

Re:Free Movies for Everyone (3, Funny)

JamesP (688957) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225781)

I thought the same thing...

How long till we have a Linux Player. Reminds me of that "other" copy protection: "We spent $10M and it can be defeated using the shift key"

Great News! (4, Funny)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225593)

Now i can watch a disney DVD on my non Microsoft device.. err wait... perhaps not...

Re:Great News! (5, Insightful)

LehiNephi (695428) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225684)

copy-protection software will let Disney distribute content on mobile phones, PDAs and portable media players

Does anyone around here have an interest in watching a movie on a 1.5" (4 cm) lcd? I guess some people may like it, but for some reason I have a hard time believing people are going to shell out their hard-earned cash for a movie that will only play on their cell phone.

PDA's and other devices (3, Interesting)

nurb432 (527695) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225773)

I have a vga port on mine.. so im not really limted to just the LCD.

Also dont forget homebuilt 'tivo' like devices. Most of them wont be compatible either.

Or laptops running something other then the latest ( not even old will work i bet ) versions of windows.

I dont belive that 'pda content' is the end all goal.. not for a moment.

Not feature films (4, Interesting)

tepples (727027) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225811)

Does anyone around here have an interest in watching a movie on a 1.5" (4 cm) lcd?

I don't see Eisner pushing full-length feature films in this medium as much as 11-minute-or-shorter episodes of "Recess", "Pepper Ann", "House of Mouse" or any of the other ABC crap that Disney has tried to push on K-12 kids.

Re:Great News! (5, Insightful)

BJZQ8 (644168) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225834)

Don't forget the fact that not only will they allow you to watch movies on a tiny screen, they'll cost you $7 a pop, and only be watchable for 48 hours before they evaporate...the real purpose of DRM in this case is not to prevent copying, it is to facilitate per-view fees and the "rental model" for movies.

Re:Great News! (5, Funny)

TobiasSodergren (470677) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225932)

From the sales department:

- If you have two phones, you get stereo sound!
- Also, if you hold the phones really close to your eyes, it'll be like going to the cinema!

Just wait (5, Funny)

AllInOne (236413) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225604)

Just wait 'til Steve Jobs, who is already head of Apple and Pixar, decides that he wants to be the head of Disney too.

How long would the MSFT deal last then?

Re:Just wait (3, Insightful)

Knetzar (698216) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225624)

Disney movies only play on windows.
New Pixar movies only play on macs.
hmmm...I dunno if I like this

Re:Just wait (5, Funny)

Erwos (553607) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225660)

Yes, and if only new pr0n movies only played on Linux, right? EVERYONE would be running it!

-Erwos

Re:Just wait (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225810)

That's not a bad idea. Pron with a linux player on it. Maybe even bootable media, though I doubt you can pull that off and still have a compliant disc.

Formats and compatibility (4, Interesting)

Breaker_1 (688170) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225605)

Will they be using a standard format then that would be compatbile with many devices or are they going to be using a custom format?
Wait.. do I REALLY need Mickey Mouse (C) on my cell phone?

::runs for the hills::

quick! (0, Funny)

kyshtock (608605) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225606)

Hey, mr Wizzard, get me DRM for my linux box!

Disney movies on MS? (5, Funny)

kc0re (739168) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225607)

Does this mean that half way through the Disney movie, right when Mary Kate and Ashley are starting the best porition of their acting, you're going to have to reboot?

I suppose there was no other choice.. (-1, Redundant)

slashbrent (102855) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225608)

but, i just cant help but think that given M$' track record of "security", this will make getting ahold of Disney films via Kazza or outright cracking them REALLY easy.

Not trolling, but common: Micro$oft.. security (DRM).. together? Does that not bring images of a peanut-butter and fish sandwich?? :-)

Re:I suppose there was no other choice.. (-1, Offtopic)

Breaker_1 (688170) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225633)

MMMmmmmmmm (homer voice) peanut-butter and fish sandwhich.....

So, this is the other show dropping..... (5, Insightful)

Selecter (677480) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225609)

From the Pixar/Apple deal gone bad. Eisner is going to try to punish Jobs for dismissing him.

Vain egos often make bad business decisions. Pixar does not need Disney any longer, and most of Disney's recent ventures have been pale imitations of Pixar's work.

Re:So, this is the other show dropping..... (5, Insightful)

chod (587534) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225840)

The timing of this decision is definately suspect. After Mike and Steve had that public spat. It reminds me of Dr. Seuss's Zax:

"And I'll prove to YOU," yelled the South-Going Zax, "That I can stand here in the prairie of Prax For fifty-nine years! For I live by a rule That I learned as a boy back in South-Going School. Never budge! That's my rule. Never budge in the least! Not an inch to the west! Not an inch to the east! I'll stay here, not budging! I can and I will If it makes you and me and the whole world stand still!" Well... Of course the world didn't stand still.

Only time will tell who really needed the other person. But from this spot, it certainly looks like Disney is making one bad decison after another and Eisner may run Disney into the ground before he gives up the controls.

Re:So, this is the other show dropping..... (4, Insightful)

kerry-buckley (647774) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225921)

From the Pixar/Apple deal gone bad. Eisner is going to try to punish Jobs for dismissing him.

I wonder if it might have been the other way round -- Jobs dropping Disney because they were insisting on using MS's proprietary DRM.

Titans yes, monopolies no. (5, Insightful)

dada21 (163177) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225613)

Thank you for using the proper term here: titans. Disney and Microsoft are surely powerful in their industries (right now, today). But everyone here has the choice to not purchase or support these products. No one is forcing you to buy Disney products, watch ABC television, or wear their licensed gear. No one is forcing you to buy products using MS DRM technology.

Remember that before you suggest that either is a monopoly. Look at things in your life and find out where the real monopolies are.

Can you bow out of Social Security? Are you forced to eat at McDonalds? Do you have to pay into federal unemployment insurance? Did you pick your car insurance company, or was it "granted to you" by the voting majority?

Re:Titans yes, monopolies no. (5, Insightful)

mr.capaneus (582891) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225767)

Do you know what a Monopoly is? Extending the definition to include social security and unemployement insurance is really a stretch and not really in any way useful. We have a different word to describe what you are talking about. It is "government". There's really no need to make it any more complex than that.

Re:Titans yes, monopolies no. (5, Informative)

NixLuver (693391) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225792)

The measure of a monopoly is not whether you are forced to buy their products. No one has to watch movies - does that mean it wouldn't be a monopoly if there were only one company? No one has to have a telephone; does that mean that there can't be abuses of the Sherman Antitrust Act by a phone company?

If you think that Microsoft, Disney, or most other large corporations have not violated the sherman [stolaf.edu] Antitrust Act of 1890, you should probably read it. The word 'monopoly' has been bandied around specifically to confuse the issue. Section 2:

Section 2. Monopolizing trade a felony; penalty
Every person who shall monopolize, or attempt to monopolize, or combine or conspire with any other person or persons, to monopolize any part of the trade or commerce among the several States, or with foreign nations, shall be deemed guilty of a felony, and, on conviction thereof, shall be punished by fine not exceeding $10,000,000 if a corporation, or, if any other person, $350,000, or by imprisonment not exceeding three years, or by both said punishments, in the discretion of the court.

"Attempt to monopolize" etc. Section 1 discusses restraint of trade - which this could most certainly be percieved as a step towards, dependin g on how Microsoft and Disney deal with the DRM issues - and with their track record, it's not looking good.

Creating a barrier to entry is what the industry is trying to accomplish with mandatory DRM. If you have to pay a $50 license for DRM, and it's illegal to distribute something (software, os, hardware, or all three) without it, then the Free Software world - and, perhaps, open source - is essentially relegated to irrelevance here in the US. And in any country that would hope to do business with US and the IMF/Wold Bank. Bleah.

Re:Titans yes, monopolies no. (4, Insightful)

GoofyBoy (44399) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225837)

>"Attempt to monopolize" etc. Section 1 discusses restraint of trade - which this could most certainly be percieved as a step towards, dependin g on how Microsoft and Disney deal with the DRM issues - and with their track record, it's not looking good.

Exactly how is Disney a monopoly?

Monopolies, yes (2, Insightful)

A nonymous Coward (7548) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225816)

You are the quibbling sort, always looking for any excuse to avoid reality. Microsoft has been convicted of being a monopoly, and has not appealed it; Microsoft thereby admits to being a monopoly.

One of the classic anti trust cases involved a railroad bridge across the Mississippi River. There was no other suitable location for a bridge crossing within hundreds of miles. The railroad was convicted of being a monopoly, because there was no practical alternative.

You are the kind of quibbler who would say, oh they could ship around Cape Horn. Oh, they could build a new railroad and bridge hundreds of miles out of the way. Oh, they could barge it across.

Bullshit. Disney itself may not be a monopoly, but Microsoft sure is, tried, convicted, and admitted. And Disney's membership in the MPAA sure taints them with monopolistic practices.

Get real.

Re:Titans yes, monopolies no. (2, Insightful)

eraserewind (446891) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225848)

Well, you are correct about Disney, but some US states, and assorted countries around the world disagree with you about Microsoft.

You say that no-one is forcing you to buy microsoft's DRM technology, nor presumably their browser technology, or media technology, or office technology.

To a certain extent you are quite correct, However because of their monopoly position in one market (achieved through technical excellence, being good at business, or sheer luck, it doesn't matter), they are able to leverage their position to control other markets. Most people, through their representative governments, think this is a bad idea, since it undermines the free market, and stifles innovation, and cost reduction, which are held to be the basis of our prosperity.

The solutions are usually to break up the company, which Microsoft has avoided so far, to fine the company, or to recognise the monopoly, and place certain obligations above and beyond those of normal businesses on those who hold monopolies.

Governments have a monopoly on tax collection, and law enforcement. That is why they also have many legislated obligations related to those areas.

Re:Titans yes, monopolies no. (1)

kfg (145172) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225914)

Did you pick your car insurance company, or was it "granted to you" by the voting majority?

It was "granted" to me. Which is to say neither I nor the isurance company had any say in the matter. They were assigned to me by law.

Yes, I am an American in America.

KFG

sweet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8225614)

Disney is driving itself to hell faster and faster. Hopefully they'll go totally bankrupt in 2 years and the artists who work for disney can go and find jobs that let them express themselves. There's a reason why most studios use Quicktime, windows MP blows chunks.

Why start our own engines... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8225619)

...when we have Hemos to turn the crank. Now vulcanize my tires post haste.

D(isney) R(ules) M(onsters) (4, Funny)

cliffy2000 (185461) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225625)

Wolf in sheep's clothing makes deal with devil. Sounds like a Disney movie to me.

Re:D(isney) R(ules) M(onsters) (2, Funny)

porcorosso (178451) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225727)

yeah but which is which?

Cool! (1, Funny)

morph- AvantGo (221930) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225628)

They're revived Walt Disney, and he's decided to sell his soul to Satan straight off. I always knew he would.

and this will help disney? (5, Insightful)

zboy (685758) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225630)

The only Disney movies I've actually paid to see in the last few years were all Pixar animations. Now that Pixar's gone, Disney doesnt have much left, and I dont think a little cell phone screen is going to make their animations look any better. I think they need to focus on creating quality features before they try and start selling them...unless they're trying to bypass stores all together and go to a direct-to-phone distribution..

Re:and this will help disney? (4, Interesting)

Lightwarrior (73124) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225705)

Don't write 'em off yet. Pixar still has three movies it owes Disney. How long has it been since the last three Pixar films? How long do you think it would take Disney to setup a Pixar knock-off?

-lw

More Disney/Pixar after Cars? (2, Informative)

tepples (727027) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225888)

Pixar still has three movies it owes Disney.

Two now that Finding Nemo is done[1]. Or does the contract specify that Pixar owes Disney something beyond The Incredibles and Cars?

How long do you think it would take Disney to setup a Pixar knock-off?

Knockoff? Not long at all. Division whose movies survive for a strong second weekend? Not while Eisner remains in power.

[1] "Done" as in "dinner's ready" [losingnemo.com] .

Re:and this will help disney? (1)

the_weasel (323320) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225822)

Pixar's not gone. Long, long way from gone. With three movies still under contract to Disney they won't be going anywhere soon.

I think I can safely say the that the degree of expertise and knowledge they have come up with will easily allow them to continue working long past the end of the Disney contract.

Pixar wasn't created to be some Disney vassal, and you can be assured they have projects of thier own in mind.

Disney vs. Apple (5, Insightful)

heironymouscoward (683461) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225645)

Or rather, Eisner vs. Jobs.

They hate each other.

Jobs is determined to become the next Disney.

And Disney is turning to Microsoft. I almost feel sorry for them, no-one (and I mean no-one) has ever done a deal with Microsoft and not regretted it later.

The deal that worked ... (2, Insightful)

A nonymous Coward (7548) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225845)

... is the deal that Microsoft made with the Shrub administration when it came in, to water down the antitrust case as far as possible. You can't deny that has been a good deal for the politicians, lots of money was had from that.

And for you moderators without any clues, here is one ... :-) and several more ;-) :-O =:-O

Re:Disney vs. Apple (4, Funny)

Lightwarrior (73124) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225915)

...I had a thoughtful, well written post about why I disagreed on those who deal with Microsoft regretting it, but Windows crashed and I lost it.

-lw

Disney's first MS DRM Movie (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8225646)

Is a documentary on Bill Gates called: Bluescreen and the Beast.

Failure within three years. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8225650)

In 2007 we'll read about how this failed.

Seems rather early (5, Insightful)

SparafucileMan (544171) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225652)

Considering most people in the U.S. don't have broadband, this seems rather premature. And would those with broadband really want to wait an hour or ten to watch what, compared to a DVD, is pixelated crap? Would you really want to invite your gf to watch some grainy compressed video or would you splurge on the $3 DVD rental?

no, will they PAY for the ability (1)

way2trivial (601132) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225745)

to wait an hour or ten, to watch pixelated crap.

people currently do all the time for free product- (see supernova.org for details)

illegal! (1)

beeman_q (732068) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225907)

suprnova.org --- theres no e in to :)

Re:Seems rather early (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8225766)

Would you really want to invite your gf to watch some grainy compressed video or would you splurge on the $3 DVD rental?

Can I splurge on my girlfriend instead?

Re:Seems rather early (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225785)

If you don't mind sloppy seconds, since I just did. Oh wait, you said splurge.

Is this why Pixar bolted? (4, Interesting)

toupsie (88295) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225655)

I wonder if Steve Jobs took his little computer animated characters and left Disney because they went with M$ DRM. Deals like this don't happen over night. Just a thought...

Re: Is this why Pixar bolted? (0)

Dwarfgoat (472356) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225701)

Someone mod this up! I had some points, but i seem to have dropped them somewhere...

No dont mod it up. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8225830)

It has nothing to do with DRM as to why Pixar bolted. Maybe if you guys had kept up with how Disney screwed Pixar up the butt, you would know what the real story is and not the conspiracy story.

Time for an upgrade (5, Funny)

Bingo Foo (179380) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225657)

I guess I'll get that 8 gig memory card for my phone now. Oh, and 5.1 DTS sound.

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW MR. BRUCKHEIMER? BOOOOOOM!

What good is Disney without Pixar? (4, Interesting)

lennart78 (515598) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225662)

Disney made a genious, tough at the time risky, move to do business with Pixar. Pixar, with every new movie they put out, has raised the bar on animated movies. Traditional 2D-Disney animation is on a steep decline, and Pixar is now breaking free of Disney. (I've seen the figures somewhere, don't have a link, but take it from me, it's impressive...)

For this deal with MS to be a success, they must have content people are willing to watch. And that is something they're not putting out anymore with Pixar off their team.

They can still be considered a titan, but for how long?

No more Clippy! (4, Funny)

mikerich (120257) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225663)

Anyone for Goofy the Office Assistant?

Best wishes,
Mike.

Re:No more Clippy! (1)

Hektor_Troy (262592) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225700)

Well, at least Goofy isn't an annoying git!

I think the seven dwarves would be more realistic (2, Funny)

Savatte (111615) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225739)

All office assistant's I know are sleepy, dopey, and grumpy. But most assuredly not happy.

No. (4, Funny)

GoofyBoy (44399) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225873)

... because on a Monday morning I'm not exactly the best person to go for help with formating your document. ;)

Just a dig at Pixar? (4, Insightful)

The Placid Casual (661461) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225664)

This has all the hallmarks of being just a dig at Pixar after the two companies very public 'falling out' earlier this month... (Falling out = Disney trying to shaft Steve Jobs?)

I'm guessing that all this will mean is that Mac users won't be able to watch 'Lion King 7' on their computers when it come out... :p

Without Pixar, Disney could be in real trouble film wise...

Re:Just a dig at Pixar? (1)

CdBee (742846) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225756)

"I'm guessing that all this will mean is that Mac users won't be able to watch 'Lion King 7' on their computers when it come out" Ironic since it was probably made with a Mac...

Re:Just a dig at Pixar? (1)

Dwarfgoat (472356) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225779)

My guess is that it's exactly the opposite. As mentioned in an earlier post, deals like this aren't inked overnight. This was probably months in the making.

I submit that it was either done behind Pixar/Job's back, or more likely, Disney chose WMA over QuickTime. We're all familiar with good 'ol quirky Steve Jobs and his hilarious temper!

Perhaps he said "Okay, fine. Use their DRM/encoding, but what will you distribute after I take my toys (stories, too!) and leave? Screw you, I'm going home!"

You're definitely on the money about Disney hurting without Pixar.

This post has way too many bad puns and southpark references to take seriously...

DRM will be cracked (4, Interesting)

SparafucileMan (544171) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225681)

I mean, seriously....haven't they been paying attention to the friendly hackers? Once it gets popular we'll break the DRM faster than Bush can say "weapons of mass destruction."

Re:DRM will be cracked (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8225770)

WMA has been quite popular for some time now (several MP3 players now support WMA, most websites offer Windows Media audio/video) but I've yet to see a crack for protected content.

Have I not looked thoroughly enough?

2 titans... (4, Interesting)

selderrr (523988) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225708)

... on the way downhill
i would rather bet my $$ on the Apple/pixar tandem : 2 stars on the rise

I think a better term for Disney and Microsoft (1)

alispguru (72689) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225911)

... would be dinosaurs.

Serves them right... (1)

Quantum-Sci (732727) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225711)

Disney has licensed Microsoft's Windows Media DRM technology...

Soon they will taste the sting of the M$ lash...

I had a vision last night (5, Insightful)

teamhasnoi (554944) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225722)

of a mouse in chains. But it wasn't any ordinary mouse - this mouse was gigantic and fat. It ate everything it saw, and stomped on the things it couldn't bend down to eat.

The mouse was very old; seemed like it had been around forever. Whenever anyone talked about the mouse, it'd better be good or *stomp*! No one was allowed to take a picture of the mouse or fashion its likeness in any way.

All the people around the mouse were tired parents in chains - as long as you put chains on when you were in the presence of the mouse you were safe. As soon as you took the chains off - *stomp*!

I really have to lay off the homemade guacamole.

Who really wants to download movies anyway? (4, Insightful)

leifm (641850) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225743)

Figure it'll cost as much as going to Hollywood/Blockbuster and renting a DVD. Add in potential connection issues with streaming, time do dl if it's download, and then it's on a computer. I'll take renting a DVD, throwing it in and watching it on a TV. Less issues, probably the same cost. Movie downloads aren't going anywhere for several years at least, let Disney roll with MS DRM, it's going to fail anyway.

In other news (5, Funny)

wine (211387) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225744)

As part of the new Disney-Microsoft deal, Bill Gates will be starring as Peter Pan in the new Disney remake of this well known epos. A source close to Microsoft said that Steve Balmer will co-star as Tinkerbell.

Strategy continuity? (4, Funny)

glpierce (731733) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225747)

So will the movies only be playable every seven years?

The Reason Why..... (1)

N8F8 (4562) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225751)

Using Microsoft's DRM in the only way you can ensure tyou will be able to update the DRM for flaws or improvements. MS installes the DRM on every OS it ships and can force the updates down user's throats.

Not like RIAA (3, Insightful)

WarSpiteX (98591) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225764)

At least they're being pro-active about this and are creating a legal way to download. I think they'll also need to lower prices relative to DVDs, but that's beside the point.

Rather than joking about Microsoft security or Disney's financial situation and friendship with certain Senators, why not discuss the possible viability of the online movie market. Will people really download these legally, rather than get DVD rips off Kazaa and BitTorrent links? Or worse, when the DRM technology gets cracked, will the movies spread for free?

Personally I believe that this won't stop online piracy or make up for the lost sales, but the legality and conveniece will make the downloadable movies an attractive alternative. The revenues will never be the same but it'll be better than trying to prevent online distribution at all.

one plus one equals (3, Funny)

tuxzone (64722) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225771)

microsoft
disney +
----------------------
mickeysoft

more can be less (3, Insightful)

madchris (266878) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225777)

There are times when forcing more control over something leads to a total loss of control. As individuals, we tend to resent being distrusted. As a group we are no different. I don't see anything useful coming out of these DRM schemes. Dishonest people will *always* find a way to break into something.

Walt? (2, Funny)

Fishstick (150821) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225801)

Walt Disney has licensed Microsoft's Windows Media DRM technology

Wow, so they un-froze his head long enough to sign a license? Cool!

Oh, you mean the Walt Disney Company [hoovers.com] !!!

Crash and burn (2, Insightful)

Petronius (515525) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225844)

People don't want to buy DRM media. Period. Let Disney try it and then feel the wrath of consummers when they figure out they *lost* the "rights" to the movie/clip/music they had *PURCHASED* with their hard earned dollars. MS's DRM is dead on arrival. To this day, I yet have to meet a single person that encodes her music to WMA and that is psyched about it. People stick with MP3 beacause at this point it's open enough and it'll be supported for life. Good luck Disney.

This could restrict Disneys customer base consid.. (1)

Locutus (9039) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225856)

This could restrict Disneys customer base considerably. MSFT does not have a very good record or marketshare for those small devices and unless MSFT ports it's DRM to the other OS's, this will be a partnership for the WindowsPC only. IMO.

Remember, the current champions of the consumer electronics space( Japan ) are all moving to GNU/Linux for those devices. The PalmOS( PalmOne and Sony ) still outsell MSFT/PocketPC by over 60%(IIRC). Not to mention this is after MSFT losing $$ at it's Mobile Unit for it's entire 8 year history( neg ~$.8 Billion annually ).

Bad move for Disney IMHO.

LoB

Opensource needs to embrace DRM (4, Interesting)

InsaneGeek (175763) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225863)

Let's face the facts. DRM is coming, it's going to be here no matter how much kicking and screaming people do it's going to be here. Many of the Slashdot crowd have been wringing their hands concerned with Linux/BSD/other being squeezed out of being able to view movies, listen to MP3's, etc. All they have been saying is M$ is bad because of DRM they are going to screw *US*. Well they are going to screw non MS users if we don't do something about it.

Content providers want DRM, MS probably doesn't care a bit about DRM but they realized that providers want it before they'll release their product. So they fill the niche because opensource has only been against it instead of offering their alternative. If opensource, etc doesn't want to be completely squeezed out of this market they need to offer an alternative. An alternative that can be used on any platform without cost. Content providers don't want to pay a M$ license, they just want a warm fuzzy. If we can give them a warm fuzzy without cost; it'll still be DRM but it'll be *our* DRM that won't prevent *my* OS from being able to view their content. We need to get an acceptable alternative out there before we non-M$ users completely lose any use (even a crippled DRM use) because we let M$ control the market completely.

DRM + Disney Software = Redmond Revenue (1)

blcamp (211756) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225878)

Another part of the deal may be DIS using MSFT to produce childrens (games, educational, et al.) software. They *may* (and I'm just speculating here) also want Redmond to produce animations in place of Pixar. But that's something for down the road - it's not something MSFT does now. Who knows?

At any rate, the Mouse is ultimately just going to end up looking plain Goofy.

Ballmer and Gates, on the other hand, make thier Machine all the more powerful...

Could be bad (1)

twofidyKidd (615722) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225880)

With companies as big as these, with their large budgets and potential power in politics, and with the RIAA as an effective role model in lobbying, its possible that the WM-DRM software may become the de facto software for any copyrighted content online. If you can't monopolize the business, monopolize the media and the source.

End of the video store? (3, Insightful)

gr8_phk (621180) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225897)

A recent /. talked about the demise of record stores. Is the same bound to happen with movies? With legal downloading - even if it's for one-time viewing - what's the use of Blockbuster?

One last chance (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8225899)

Is this going to be another Disney, "One last chance to see, then it's gone for good" type things.. They do that so freaking often, "Your final chance to own Cinderella in yet another format" or some such nonsense. Disney pushes out crap. Pixar did all the good stuff, Disney is more of a marketing machine than a film company.

Linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8225900)

But does it run Linux?

Just wait... (1)

JustNiz (692889) | more than 10 years ago | (#8225934)

Thank god Disney partnered with a company famous for non-secure software... Assuming MS's DRM is as insecure and easy to crack as all their other products, and now there will actually be much more protected media around worth pirating, I wonder how long it will take the war3z kiddiez to produce an DeCSS-like utility for MS-DRM protected media?
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