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Opera Browser Creators Planning IPO

simoniker posted more than 10 years ago | from the great-googly-moogly dept.

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Iphtashu Fitz writes "Norwegian web browser developer Opera Software is reportedly planning an Initial Public Offering on the Oslo Stock Exchange next month. According to a press release issued today, Opera's revenue for the last quarter grew 108.7% and CEO Jon S. von Tetzchner stated that 'After developing and refining the technology and commercial side for nine years, Opera Software is now ready for public listing.' Opera has, according to CNET News, gained popularity in the past few months thanks, in part, to having ported their well-known browser to smartphones."

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oh, my (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8230621)

it's so FROSTY!

This just in: (-1)

Fecal Troll Matter (445929) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230665)

Fecal Troll Matter, formerly known as The Wipo Troll, Penis Fish Guy, and many others, is calling it quits. Goodbye, cruel slashdot.

Re:This just in: (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8230739)

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Re:This just in: (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8230868)

I think you're the only person on Earth who still uses that (not) "joke" anymore. Congratulations.

Re:This just in: (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8230900)

Thanks so much! I always enjoy heartfelt words from my fellow /.'ers.

(not)

(I expect you're fairly rolling on the floor from the above hilarity. You're welcome!)

Re:This just in: (-1, Offtopic)

grub (11606) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230912)

What?! That little green dot next to your name means so much to me! Why are you leaving?

Re:This just in: (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8230983)

Are you OUT OF YOUR MIND, NIGGA? You're a true American icon! You can't just die in your Milwaukee home at 15!

I wonder which (0, Funny)

cyt0plas (629631) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230622)

I wonder which would start higher, Opera or Google?

Re:I wonder which (5, Interesting)

TiMac (621390) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230682)

Why wonder? Everyone and their mother uses Google...a small fraction of the world uses Opera. I'm all about rooting for the little guy (Opera) vs the giant (Microsoft), but there are so many other alternatives out there for various platforms (such as Firefox, Galeon, Safari, OmniWeb, etc) that I can't see a company based around a browser succeeding in going public.

Frankly, I'll keep my money in safer places....

Re:I wonder which (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8230891)

So what do you recommend for someone who wants a similar browser for FreeBSD, Linux(Debian) & MS Win?

Re:I wonder which (5, Interesting)

aacool (700143) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230686)

Opera's revenue is about a third of Google's last quarter. Google's ad-words program ensures revenue. Not sure how Opera can ensure sustained revenue for a freeware browser that has a low share of the browser market(????)

So, I would assume, Google. Also factor in the demand factor for the shares, expectation of being the next Netscape, etc.,

Will be interesting to see how Opera performs as a public company

Re:I wonder which (1)

demonic-halo (652519) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230738)

Guess it would depend on what you define as higher.

My guess is Google will have a higher market cap.

Pricewise, there is no telling. Is there some way to get information on # of outstanding shares there are?

Re:I wonder which (4, Informative)

eidechse (472174) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230831)

Opera isn't freeware. It has a free version with ads and a paid version without the ads.

Opera OK (2, Interesting)

Simonetta (207550) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230817)

I use Opera 7. It does a good job at blocking pop-ups and I can zoom the text size easily.

But it doesn't work with Ebay. My password is rejected everytime I use Opera and accepted everytime I use Internet Explorer 5.

Also whenever I use Yahoo! mail with Opera and I am entering my password, the prompt JUMPS to the user name box and the characters that I type appear appended to my user name. Again this doesn't happen in Internet Explorer.

I sure wish they could fix this nonsense.

If you want stock gain, buy into a company that does really nasty things to people. For instance, the company that makes Tasers, those guns that shoot darts that police use to zap protesting college students with 50000 volts of electricity, has seen their stock price go from $2 to over $120 in a year.

Re:Opera OK (1)

Simonetta (207550) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230909)

Or buy into Wackenhut or Corrections Corporation of America. These creeps run private corporate prison camps in the USA. What with the RIAA getting ready to throw tens of thousands of college students in private corporate prisons for the crime of listening to music, you can expect to see big gains in their stock price!

Especially when they start to cut back on the overhead by shipping their 'product' to distant third world countries where the costs of human storage are rock-bottom.

God bless America, land of the free and home of the brave!

Re:Opera OK (3, Funny)

KILNA (536949) | more than 10 years ago | (#8231032)

If you want stock gain, buy into a company that does really nasty things to people.

Automated slashbot response: So which should I buy, SCO or Microsoft?

Re:I wonder which (1, Flamebait)

grub (11606) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230949)


I wonder which would start higher, Opera or Google?

Slashdot needs a "-1, Rhetorical Karma Whoring Question" moderation option.

DARLIN' GOATSE (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8230624)

I knew a guy named goatse
I guess you could say he was a sex fiend
I met him in a hotel lobby
Masturbating with a magazine
He said how'd you like to waste some time
And I could not resist when I saw little goatse grind

He took me to his castle
And I just couldn't believe my eyes
He had so many devices
Everything that money could buy
He said sign your name on the dotted line
The lights went out
And goatse started to grind

The castle started spinning
Or maybe it was my brain
I can't tell you what he did to me
But my body will never be the same
His lovin' will kick your behind
Oh, he'll show you no mercy
But he'll sho'nuff sho'nuff show you how to grind

Darlin' goatse

Woke up the next morning
Goatse wasn't there
I looked all over and all I found
Was a phone number on the stairs
It said thank you for a funky time
Call me up whenever you want to grind

Re:DARLIN' GOATSE (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8230679)

Phunni

Thanks, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8230630)

Thanks, but I'm still holding out for the Google IPO.

Woohoo! (1)

TypoNAM (695420) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230641)

Is it time to start buying stock? :)

If at first you don't succeed... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8230654)

Good luck to Opera on their IPO. Just remember, it isn't over till the fat lady sings!

Hmmm (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8230669)

I'd buy that for a kroner.

Re:Hmmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8231001)

Kroner is plural. Either you buy it for a krone or several kroner.

Stupid Question? (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8230673)

Why does anyone care about this non-free browser with Mozilla around?

Re:Stupid Question? (1)

blixel (158224) | more than 10 years ago | (#8231024)

Well, I wouldn't put it quite like that, but I tend to agree. A few months back I gave Opera a fair shot. I ran it exclusively for about a month. There were a few weird things about it that I didn't like. (Where the heck are the tabs? Oh - it's not called tabs in Opera even though Opera says it has "tabbed browsing". And I don't like integrated e-mail in my browser, personally. And the Opera e-mail client "sucked", in my opinion.)

There wasn't anything about it that I liked well enough to make it my new browser of choice. I had heard that it was the fastest browser available in terms of rendering HTML. So I wanted to give it a fair try. I don't have an Open Source axe to grind. If a proprietary product is genuinely better, I'm willing to admit it. That doesn't necessarily mean I'll use it, but I don't have any problem owning up when something else is better. But personally I just didn't see any fantastic speed increases. (Or even non fantastic speed increases for that matter.) And the ads, they are annoying when you aren't use to having them. I'm sure I could get use to them, or I could pay to get rid of them. But why bother when FireBird (now FireFox)/Galeon/Mozilla is just as good (better)?

Opera (5, Insightful)

MysteriousMystery (708469) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230675)

Opera is a nice browser, but honestly how many people do you know that actually regged it? Most people are using the ad supported version. With the company going public it makes me wonder about how many ads and to what level the ads will be showing up in future releases. Instead of just a banner at the top maybe pop ups FROM Opera? Perhaps I'm just seeing things negatively but this certainly makes me wonder about the product. I will say it is nice to use on a Zaurus though.

Re:Opera (4, Insightful)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230795)

why does 'going public' always equate into 'after this they must try to bring in all the cash they can in and sell their souls to the devil too!'? you know they don't have to have a businessplan like that!

the more intresting news is that they made profit..

seriously, they're doing this to get some financial flexibility afaik, you can be more stiffed for maximum profit with private investors..

Re:Opera (1)

sl0wp0is0n (708422) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230833)

But, it's still commendable that these people built a business around a free browser. OTOH, I don't think that warrants an IPO and I'm convinced that they will realize their mistake soon. I hope they have something better in mind behind that IPO. And, I hope they don't slam all the financial burden on the users in one way or the other, directly or indirectly, like you mentioned. All said, as a user, it's always good to have options around and I hope Opera hangs around.

Re:Opera (4, Interesting)

Beolach (518512) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230861)

Instead of just a banner at the top maybe pop ups FROM Opera?
I doubt it. One of the selling points for Opera (like Mozilla) is built-in pop-up blocking. If Opera started making their own pop-up ads from the browser that would presumably bypass the built-in pop-up blocker, it would completly negate the benefit of that feature. And I think the people at Opera, like most reasonably intellagent people, realize that end users hate pop-up ads so much that they are not a reasonable form of marketing.

Re:Opera (1)

sndtech (738958) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230869)


ok first off Opera specifically has a feature to turn off all pop-ups/pop-unders.
so this would be beyond easy to step around.
most people who I know who use Opera use it just because of this feature.
and the mouse gestures are nice too.

Re:Opera (1)

Richardsonke1 (612224) | more than 10 years ago | (#8231051)

I am happy to say that I registered it. Granted, I only had to pay $20 because I am a student, but the browser it absolutly amazing. I have had a few problems with crashing every once in a while (no more than IE), but the browser saves your every move in each tab so that if it does crash, you come right back up where you were. Also, their small screen versions are amazing. Pretty much any page, no matter what, will fit on your screen with no horizonal scrolling (like the stupid PocketIE). If only they would create a PocketPC version, I would gladly fork over some more money.

Re:Opera (5, Interesting)

Gregory S Patterson (567055) | more than 10 years ago | (#8231071)

For what it's worth, I've been using Opera exclusively since version 3.something in 1998. When they switched to ads, I used a cracked version for a couple months, but then regged it after the guilt got to me. Considering that (excluding operating systems) I use this piece of software more than any other, I probably owed them a lot more than it cost. Though I must admit that I'm the only person I know who gave them any money, and I know about a half dozen other people who use it regularly. I assume most of their revenue comes from licensing deals w/ mobile phone makers.

If you're willing to learn the interface and customize it to your liking, there's no doubt in my mind that there's nothing faster. Most importantly, you can use it with either the mouse OR the keyboard without any loss of efficiency. From my experiences, most other browsers have functions that can only be done with one or the other.

just my $.02

Need shares now! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8230678)

I'm out of toilet paper and there is a huge Dumpasaurus Rex clawing at my sphincter!

Or maybe this is my ass's version of an IPO?

You americans have such gigantic penis! Chinpokomon!

Why Pay? (0, Troll)

Slack0ff (590042) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230687)

Why pay for Opera when Mozilla v1.6 is out. Support free software and may pay software face eternal dmannation. Okay maybe eternal was overkill. But I would like to see a period similar in length to Cali's Death row.

Re:Why Pay? (5, Insightful)

kannibal_klown (531544) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230813)

I like Mozilla, and usually support free software, especially OSS, but I don't see what's so wrong about liking payware. It's not like I'm dirt poor, and can't afford the registration fee.

Free Software and Open Source software is great, but not every company is Microsoft; some are benigh or even benevolent. There's nothing wrong with paying for software if you like it more than the free alternatives.

Re:Why Pay? (-1)

tntguy (516721) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230851)

Here's another good reason [opera.com] to support them. Fight stupidity with humor, not lawsuits.

Re:Why Pay? (1)

Slack0ff (590042) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230875)

True, But im am happy to live with a program that might not be up to par with a pay program just so I dont have to support the company that makes it. Its not about the money its about principles.

because Mozilla 1.6 is bloated (1)

Via_Patrino (702161) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230849)

After one our browsing slashdot it is using 55MB of RAM, I can't type on composer real time (I type and it show up few seconds later), it takes 8 seconds to open a new window and once you get a lot of registers on history/bookmarks/download manager performance sucks because parsing xml is very inefficient.
My specs are: k6-2 266mhz, 128MB ram, pretty common around here.

Re:because Mozilla 1.6 is bloated (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8230963)

Hi, 1995 called. It would like its computer back.

Re:because Mozilla 1.6 is bloated (1)

Slack0ff (590042) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230971)

With the specs of your computer I dont think mozilla is really to blame. They produce a powerful package that needs more then you have to offer.

Re:because Mozilla 1.6 is bloated (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8231005)

Those aren't specs, they're a history lesson. I've thrown away computers faster than that...why not take out a $200 loan and get a computer from a more recent decade?

Re:because Mozilla 1.6 is bloated (1)

1000101 (584896) | more than 10 years ago | (#8231031)

266 MHz pretty commom? Yeah, in 1999. Most people around here probably don't have the latest and greatest 3.4 GHz P4, but you aren't even at 1 GHz. Hell, you aren't even at 500 MHz! I can't believe that you actually expected it to work properly and didn't just install it as a test bed machine.

Re:Why Pay? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8230938)

Yeah, I thought Mozilla was good till I put it on a Pentium computer (133Mhz to be exact)... s - l - o - w - - -

Opera just rox on older systems, and you don't have to limit yourself to Twm.

Re:Why Pay? (1)

Slack0ff (590042) | more than 10 years ago | (#8231012)

I'm sure you didnt put the latest version of all your software on that 133. Why then should you expect to be able to put the latest version of mozilla? Sure the latest version of opera may work fine but none the less if you tried to put on a new version of mozilla whos to blame?

Re:Why Pay? (1)

74nova (737399) | more than 10 years ago | (#8231020)

because there is nothing wrong with the adware version. i have no reason to reg, so its free, just like mozilla. not only that, but mozilla is ugly IMO. really ugly. it does seem to handle some of the multimedia stuff a little better than opera for now... i just really prefer opera, it seems faster, its prettier, and i love me some gestures. more power to both of them, however.

Sounds interesting. (2, Interesting)

Sheetrock (152993) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230691)

Are there any special fees or complications in buying stocks from Sweden, or is this something that's completely unavailable to people out of the country?

I'm sure there are quite a few people that'd like to get in on this, but not if it's prohibitively expensive.

Re:Sounds interesting. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8230771)

buying stocks from Sweden

RTFA. Opera isn't Swedish.

How is this relevant? (3, Informative)

El (94934) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230917)

Opera is located in Norway, not Sweden -- two neighboring but very different countries. (The Norwegians feel about the Swedes much the same way the Americans feel about Canadians.)

Re:How is this relevant? (2, Funny)

Scaba (183684) | more than 10 years ago | (#8231030)

So you're saying Norwegians never think about Swedes at all?

Re:Sounds interesting. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8230923)

No. Any competent retail broker will do this and the currency conversion required.

Re:Sounds interesting. (2, Informative)

bitva (206067) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230968)

Yes you can. Read this:

http://www.thestreet.com/pf/markets/asktheexpert /1 0121118.html

I guess you can buy direct into foreign markets, or you can buy ADR's, which are some sort of vouchers.

Re:Sounds interesting. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8230973)

"...apply for public listing on the Oslo Stock Exchange (OSE)..."

My dear friend, Oslo is in Norway, not Sweeden.

MOD PARENT DOWN (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8231077)

FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!

Opera the best browser (-1, Troll)

MonkeysKickAss (735143) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230695)

If it weren't for the developer of Opera I might not be browing the web right now. I hate internet explorer and netscape they always crash for me when I'm in the middle of downloading, thats why I'm gonna go and buy a copy of Opera right away because its one of the best web browsers. Go Opera

Opera the worst browser (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8230839)

If it weren't for the developer of Opera I might not be browing the web right now. I hate internet explorer and netscape they always crash for me when I'm in the middle of downloading, thats why I'm gonna go and buy a copy of Opera right away because its one of the best web browsers. Go Opera

If it weren't for the developer of Opera you might not be browing the web right now. I hate opera it always makes me read your pathetic ramblings, thats why I'm gonna go and short Opera's stock right away because your one of the worst posters. Go IE!

Re:Opera the best browser (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8230986)

Well go fuck yourself if you dont like then dont use it you fucking faggot cunt

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That's not funny, that's a business plan! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8230958)

I keep telling you, that would actually work.

You could include the prog on the CD absolutely free!!

Will this be an end to a decent browser? (3, Interesting)

bobdole369 (267463) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230697)

I hope some other multinational conglomeration doesn't steamroll over them and buy them out.

I fear the day when google goes public. It will be the end of usable websearching as we know it. (Hides from the corporate whores jumping up and down and foaming at the mouth)

Re:Will this be an end to a decent browser? (1)

nomadic (141991) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230943)

I hope some other multinational conglomeration doesn't steamroll over them and buy them out.

I bet they hope some other multinational conglomeration steamrolls over them and buys them out.

Amazing ... (5, Funny)

midspot (750702) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230708)

amazing how 2 free to use apps can be both offering stocks in 2004. Do i see a bubble rising in the tech sector again??? I better get back to buying domains for selling cat skinners, corn row straighteners, and board stretchers!!!

Re:Amazing ... (3, Insightful)

El (94934) | more than 10 years ago | (#8231039)

Hint: ABC, NBC, and CBS also offer a "free to use" product.

Opera sucks (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8230710)

use IE.

TRY TO read this!!! (-1, Troll)

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Crashes... (4, Informative)

npistentis (694431) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230724)

I know I'm not the only person who experienced dozens upon dozens of spontaneous crashes when I was using Opera... I switched to Firebird, excuse me, FireFOX, and with the addition of one extension have mouse gestures, tabs, built-in google search... all of the "features" with a fraction of the crashes. What makes Opera so appealing, and are they ready to go public?

Re:Crashes... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8230760)

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Re:Crashes... (5, Informative)

Bronz (429622) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230895)

This could be completely OS dependent, but Opera on Win32 is a dream. (And to be honest, I don't recall it ever having a problem for me on suse or debian either).

Opera is appealing because it's not just a viable replacement for IE or Mozilla, but it's actually an alternative. It's code base is unique in that it has no common ties to the gecko browsers. It's fast. Really fast.

Mouse gestures in Mozilla and IE are (literally) an after thought add-on. Due to Mozilla's design, I'm not sure that a mouse gesture can even register while a page is loading. Little things that destroy the UI if they aren't done right.

No crashes here. Never! (5, Informative)

tipiyano (709370) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230976)

For me it's only one reason for opera: mouse gestures

Yes, I have the tried the mouse gestures in mozilla. They are not at all consistent. You have to "draw" the gesture exactly with sharp edges or it failes to recongnize. With Opera it is very robust. And yes, mouse gestures is important to me.

This one might be my ignorance, but I can't get the tabbed browsing to work right on Mozilla. Most of the time it opens new tab for new window but sometimes it will open a new window. Not to mention that the download window always opens a new window. Opera always keeps everything in the same window.

And finally, I love that I can close opera and start it later and have all my open webpages restored. No need to temporary bookmarks. Couldn't find this mozilla.

So until mozilla gets these right (specially mouse gestures), I will stick to opera. Although one thing I miss that mozilla has is the google toolbar. Hopefully, opera will pick it up soon.

Re:Crashes... (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8231010)

I'm still using a P2-366 laptop as my main machine. Opera is faster and more responsive than Firebird/fox. On some complicated pages, when I open it in a tab in the background, Firebird/fox would freeze for about 2 seconds. Opera would slow down, but the main page remained responsive. I've noticed this even on a P4 1.8 ghz, though to a much smaller degree.

I Was Getting Afraid (3, Interesting)

kannibal_klown (531544) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230730)

Phew, I was afraid Opera was in trouble. They haven't released a new version in a long time (at one point it was every 2 weeks or maybe a month). Then again, Opera has been pretty rock solid on my systems, with the only crashes occuring during an occassional FLASH ad on tvguide.com/listings.

I'm glad the company is still going strong, as Opera is my browser of choice. While I like Mozilla and it's brother FireBird, I still think Opera is the finest browser available. People may laugh at me for buying licenses, but the overall experience has been great.

Re:I Was Getting Afraid (1)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 10 years ago | (#8231068)

Who says they aren't in trouble?

Who says the IPO isnt so the current owners can line their pockets with cash, and let the public take the bath when the company goes under?

Can someone explain... (3, Interesting)

pla (258480) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230732)

Can someone explain why companies love going public so damn much?

They already have a product (so no money needed to front the development). They alreay show a profit. Wouldn't an IPO just mean they need to share their profit, in exchange for a wad of cash that they don't really need for anything, and that will actually cost them, in the long term?

Same idea applies to Google. Single most successful search engine in history, and they want to share their profits by going public?

I just don't get it...

Re:Can someone explain... (1)

Shut the fuck up! (572058) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230818)

If it is VC financed, the VCs probably want their money. If it isn't, why bemoan the people who own the company for wanting to reap the rewards of their hard work?

Re:Can someone explain... (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8230877)

It's an easy way to 1) raise capital 2) spread risk around.

Imagine you are in your kitchen baking cookies, and you sense that your cookie-baking will make you rich someday. You just need some money for advertising and a bigger kitchen. How can you do it? You can try and grow slowly, but you might never succeed. You can take out a loan, but what if you can't pay it back? You're screwed. So you can try and convince people that your business is growing, big time, and you will offer to sell pieces of the business for a high price (higher than the value of all your equipment at least). You take this big mass of cash, grow your business, and everybody gets rich as your income grows and the value of your stock goes up accordingly. And your company is in neat little pieces that can be bought and sold as needed. Instead of just you owning your business, all these people own little pieces of it.

And if the business flops, you don't owe these buyers anything, because they assumed the risk when they buy.

Pretty simple really...there's also seconday benefits like exposure and PR but the basic point is to raise capital.

Re:Can someone explain... (1)

lpangelrob2 (721920) | more than 10 years ago | (#8231013)

There's a few reasons, and most of them on their own probably aren't good enough to merit an IPO.

Maybe they're interested in using some of their cash to advertise their browser in the media.

Maybe they want to hire more developers to get more features (God knows what) into the browser.

Maybe they want to differentiate themselves from other software out there... that maybe somehow, an IPO makes you look better. Doesn't make sense to us, but average Joe goes, "Hey, Opera, aren't they in my fund?"

Maybe it's a good thing a company wants to go public and set its sights higher... and actually have the innovation to back it up.

Re:Can someone explain... (3, Informative)

Jaywalk (94910) | more than 10 years ago | (#8231038)

Can someone explain why companies love going public so damn much?
Because it makes money for those who own the company and/or finances further development. If I have a company worth a million dollars that I own privately, I can sell it in an IPO and have the million cash. Or I can sell some fraction of it, retain some control and put most of the money into development. Just because I have a product doesn't mean I don't need funds to develop a second or improve the first to keep it competitive.

Besides, a lot of times the company is not really owned by the person who came up with the original product, but by that person's investors. And the reason investors invest is that they think it will make them money.

Buying Opera (5, Funny)

hcetSJ (672210) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230754)

95% of nerds: If I've never had any inclination to buy the Opera web browser, why would I bother to buy their stock?

95% of others: Ooooh! Tech stocks! It's the next '90's!

worthy? (4, Insightful)

segment (695309) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230756)

For the quarter ended Dec. 31, Opera earned 1.3 million kroner ($190,000), compared with a loss of 21.4 million kroner ($3.1 million) in the same period a year ago.

Not to bang the drum slowly here but if Netscape which was already paired with a money maker (or loser depending on your view) such as AOL, and it's pretty much a dead product nowadays, I wonder what Opera is thinking aside from making a quick dollar. Even if they made a measly $190k they lost $3.1 that will eventually have to be paid back if not done already.

Now, Opera is alright as a browser, but as it stands the majority of `quickie' users tend to be - dare I say it? - IE (l)users, and with Microsoft making it pretty much the first thing a new computer user sees, I wonder what is making Opera think they can compete with the (s/^/crooked/g) Microsoft 400lb Gorilla.

Re:worthy? (2, Insightful)

Kenja (541830) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230950)

Well for one thing, people are actualy working on Opera and have been since the start. Netscape died becuase the devlopers gave up on it long before the soruce was released. This is why Opera is a good product and Netscape started to suck long before they started going out of business.

not a good idea (2, Insightful)

mabhatter654 (561290) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230763)

This is not good...the only way the net has survived so far is that very key, very identifiable PRIVATE companies have been involved. They might as well sell it to the highest bidder right now and save the trouble of the IPO. Perhaps they could get IBM to pick them up, or maybe Google! ...as a best case...

Their board will get slammed by the "big kids" trying to get a piece...the directors will get sick of it quickly and quit within a year...Either way the "standards compliance" will be the first thing to go when the corps take over...and that is Opera's only "killer" feature...If the directors want their money, sell it to somebody like google, or OSDN or IBM...somebody that's big enough and "in tune" enough to appreciate it....unlike the whole AOL/Netscape thing.

It's about time... (3, Insightful)

tipiyano (709370) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230765)

Opera gets some more recognition. I love the mouse gestures, image off browsing, autosave links for when you need to reboot the system but don't want to bookmark all the open pages and lots of other cool features.

Now only if they could get a search keyword highlight (like the google toolbar), I will stop using mozilla (which has a google toolbar lookalike).

4.2 Million USD (4, Informative)

mhesseltine (541806) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230779)

For the currency impaired, that's the revenue for this year. Last year was 2.0 million USD

On a similar note, 108% revenue growth isn't that impressive when you're talking about this small of an amount. Now if IBM showed 108% revenue growth, then there'd be something to talk about.

Sorry, but color me unimpressed.

I won't be buying any stock... (-1, Troll)

jaylee7877 (665673) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230782)

Why would anyone pay for a browser when there are perfectly good (better in my opinion) browsers out there? I'm talking about This one [mozilla.org] , this one [mozilla.org] , and this one [kde.org] not this one [microsoft.com] . Mozilla rocks!!! Seriously someone give me a good reason to pay $30 for a browser, even if it is "the fastest browser on earth, that's not worth $30 to me...

Bad timing. (1, Troll)

-kertrats- (718219) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230783)

This news on the same day that Firefox 0.8 comes out. With everyone all gung ho over the new mozilla browser, no ones gonna give a rip about opera.

Re:Bad timing. (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8230944)

Everyone? Yeah, if you define 'everyone' as 'dirty, smelly, long-haired hippies who live in their moms' basements and have never so much as touched a human female'.

Re:Bad timing. (2, Interesting)

bogie (31020) | more than 10 years ago | (#8231067)

Maybe OEMS who want to license Opera for mobile computing will care, but your right. As far as the oh so bold %3 of people who don't use IE, longterm they'll probably all end up being Gecko users. The reasons for using Opera over Firefox for general browsing are slim to none. Before Firebird/FirefoxPhoenix came out they really had a point about Opera being lightweight as compared to the big monolithic Mozilla suite. But that was then and this is now. Nobody wants to pay for what you can get for free. If Opera can't establish itself as "the" browser for handhelds/pda's they don't have much of a future besides being a takeover target once their stock dips to sub $1.00 levels.

Opera simply rocks (1)

Purple_Walrus (457070) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230791)

I don't know whether I'd go and buy their stock but the web browser is amazing.

My advice is this... (4, Insightful)

D-Cypell (446534) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230794)

Take your 108.7% increase, give the staff a nice bonus, and keep on developing.

Why is it that every tech firm thinks that making a profit means sell up as fast as possible? Why put yourselves in the hand of people that have no idea about your technology, company culture or internal standards and just expect you to keep turning profits at all costs?

Keep the money, keep your company and keep inovating.

Re:My advice is this... (1)

grasshoppa (657393) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230952)

Why is it that every tech firm thinks that making a profit means sell up as fast as possible? Why put yourselves in the hand of people that have no idea about your technology, company culture or internal standards and just expect you to keep turning profits at all costs?

Keep the money, keep your company and keep inovating.


This is something that I, too, am having a problem understanding.

Maybe I just don't know of any tech companies that went IPO and did well, or maybe I don't understand what an IPO brings to the table.

Anybody?

Re:My advice is this... (1)

D-Cypell (446534) | more than 10 years ago | (#8231062)

Well my understanding is this... (IANA number junkie)..

An IPO provides an oppurtunity for a company to make serious money real fast, which is great, except the second the bad news rolls in (a drop in profits for example) its sell sell sell!

The stock price drops, more people sell, so it drops some more etc etc.

Pretty soon you are cleaning out your desk and switching off the lights. The winners are those that played the stock correctly and managed to make a profit, the losers are those interested in tech and have to wave goodbye to yet another potential competitor to a certain [microsoft.com] software monopolist.

So basically, its a greed thing...

Re:My advice is this... (1, Redundant)

Citizen of Earth (569446) | more than 10 years ago | (#8231026)

Take your 108.7% increase, give the staff a nice bonus, and keep on developing. Why is it that every tech firm thinks that making a profit means sell up as fast as possible?

I think they must see Mozilla/Lesszilla/whatever coming and they realize that it's a good time to cash out. Their market is going to be eaten away by big-F Free software. Surely they realize this. They were counting on Mozilla not going anywhere.

aut0tr0ll is teh sp0kE!? (-1)

Jack Froidalbungle (730156) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230819)

Hello master.

sid=96145
formkey=Apg7qKSk4y

This is a joint venture that will be mutually advantageous to both parties involved.

Listen up, people (5, Funny)

prostoalex (308614) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230826)

This browser IPO is going to be huge! It will turn Microsoft Windows into pile of poorly debugged device drivers and everything will be run from the Web browser!

You simply cannot lose launching a Web browser company!

Re:Listen up, people (0, Redundant)

El (94934) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230953)

Are you quoting from a Netscape press release from the mid-90s?

Bad timing (2, Informative)

AhBeeDoi (686955) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230858)

The timing for an IPO is bad. Now that they appear to be turning an operating profit, protential investors can only see the limitations of Opera's profit potential. When Opera was still sustaining losses, investors could (unrealistically) fill in the blanks on Opera's potential. I suspect that many investors are savvy about a company whose chief competitor is the 800 lb gorilla of the industry and whose major competing products are free of charge.

good luck! (1)

whathappenedtomonday (581634) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230926)

hope they succeed - ;)

since the press release is a little light on details: presently, 70% of Opera Software ASA are held by its employees. They hope to make some 8 to 12 million euro (9 to 13 million US$) by going public. must be fun working there :)

I hope that... (1)

FerretFrottage (714136) | more than 10 years ago | (#8230936)

the Fat Lady isn't getting ready to sing. It's nice to see a smaller player produce a quality product

IPO means i gotta find a new web-browser.. (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8230978)

WHY??

I mean.. i love opera.. i use it to test all my web pages against.. because if it works in Opera.. it will work in ANYTHING.

Now they're gonna sell out.. it will become the next NetScrape.. the programmers will get rich and quit and then MS will buy it out so ZDnet can rave about the "BRAND NEW FEATURE! Tabbed Browsing" in IE 7.0

pftt.. IPO my ass.. what a way to ruin a great company.

when will slashdot have an IPO? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8231072)

and will it be in soviet russia?
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