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MyDoom.C Making Its Way Across The Net

timothy posted more than 10 years ago | from the funny-it-isn't-affecting-me dept.

The Internet 519

Iphtashu Fitz writes "eWeek is reporting that the latest variant of MyDoom is now making its way across the internet and may have been responsible for some disruptions to Microsofts website over the weekend. This new variant apparently doesn't spread via e-mail but instead scans for machines with an open TCP port 3127. This version appears to be a very stripped down version of its earlier cousins since it also doesn't leave a backdoor into infected machines nor does it have a shutoff date for when to stop attacking Microsoft." Reader billstewart adds links to reports at Australia's ABC News and carried by Reuters; Unloaded adds a link to CNET's coverage.

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First post addict (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8234283)

oh my i've done it again

Re:First post addict (-1, Offtopic)

phobos182 (656449) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234294)

loser

Re:First post addict (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8234415)

You are teh looser, faG!!

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MyDoom (5, Funny)

Paleomacus (666999) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234287)

What a stupid name for a virus. The writer must be planning to get caught.

Re:MyDoom (OT Response) (1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8234307)

Wow, 666999 is a pretty kinky number if you ask me.. O_o

Re:MyDoom (1)

Frac (27516) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234322)

What a stupid name for a virus. The writer must be planning to get caught.

I don't think anyone plans to get caught when they deliver so much damage. I think you meant the writer must be expecting to get caught.

Re:MyDoom (4, Interesting)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234337)

Virus-writers don't get to name their viruses, the anti-virus companies do that.

Re:MyDoom (5, Interesting)

Paleomacus (666999) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234351)

Really? Kinda like hurricanes and tropical storms then eh? That's kind of a funky analogy.

Re:MyDoom (4, Funny)

JoshWurzel (320371) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234468)

I'm sure if the file you sent out was called "thisvirusisnamedJim.vbs", it would be called Jim.

MyQuake (5, Funny)

Neo-Rio-101 (700494) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234456)

After MyDoom.c we can probably expect MyQuake.a, as well as a sequel MyQuake.b... and maybe even MyReturnToCastleWolfenstein.a Unfortunately MyDoom.3d will only run on the latest graphics cards and DirectX9 hardware... and will spend years in development. Andy better not be working at id

He won't get caught dude (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8234483)

I don't think he'll get caught anytime soon. One of the writers, if there is more than one, were attacking SCO. I don't think there are many people out there who are all these things:

1) smart enough to write a windows virus
2) BIG linux advocate
and most importantly...
3) stupid enough to get caught.

Not that it takes a rocket scientiest to write a windows virus, but this particular one does take some knowledge of how to use sockets (or whatever C# or .NET calls their own stupid abstraction).

In any event, most people who know how to do this have at least heard of ways to cover your tracks. Like hopping from rooted box to rooted box 20 times and writing self destruct codes that formats the disks of all those machines. If they didn't do something along those lines, then they deserve to get caught because they're a threat to our community! Just kidding.

post first? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8234289)

post the first, no way!

Dumbass alert (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8234290)

Anyone infected by email virii should have their internet access revoked for being too damn stupid. Stop opening every fucking attachment you get, morons!

Re:Dumbass alert (2, Informative)

bcore (705121) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234320)

Anyone infected by email virii should have their internet access revoked for being too damn stupid. Stop opening every fucking attachment you get, morons!

Did you happen to notice the part where it said This new variant apparently doesn't spread via e-mail but instead scans for machines with an open TCP port 3127?

Re:Dumbass alert (4, Interesting)

ergo98 (9391) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234345)

Did you happen to notice the part where it said This new variant relies upon a backdoor left in place by the original email spread virus.

I'm not sure what to think about this: How many times can you tell people never to open attachments until you just give up and accept that a certain casualty rate is to be expected? (As a sidenote -- I party blame Netscape and other email proggies that send forwards or replies as attachments rather than as inline quoted text. This makes uses accustomed to opening attachments).

Re:Dumbass alert (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8234484)

Awww, but it said "I Love You."
How could it be harmful if it says "I love you"?

FIRST LICKING /. ASS POST (-1)

GhostseTroll (582659) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234291)

CLIT Executive Says Slashdot Threatens Innovation (Update1)
2/14/01 4:57 PM
Source:Goatse News

Holland, Michigan, Feb. 14 (Goatse) -- CLIT Corp.'s TrollPosts troll-thread chief, WipoTroll, says that freely distributed goatse speech such as rival Slashdot could stifle innovation and that legislators need to understand the threat.

The result will be the demise of both intellectual property rights and the incentive to spend on research and development, he said yesterday, after the troll previewed its latest version of TrollPosts. CLIT has told U.S. lawmakers of its concern while discussing protection of intellectual property rights.

Slashdot is spewed in a so-called free-speech-suppression environment in which the goatse speech generally isn't owned by any one troll. Slashdot has a new policy that only allows trolls to post twice a day..

''Slashdot is an intellectual-property destroyer,'' WipoTroll said. ''I can't imagine something that could be worse than this for the speech business and the intellectual-property business.''

CLIT distributes some of its crapfloods without charge to customers, although it generally doesn't release its crapflooding goatse, and it retains the ownership rights to that goatse. Slashdot is the most widely known free-speech-suppression goatse hole, though other crapfloods including the popular Apache system for Web server trollings also are spewed the same way.

CauboiKneel Inquiry

WipoTroll made his comments several hours before CLIT confirmed that its $135 million investment in speech maker CauboiKneel last October is being reviewed by the U.S. Justice Department. CauboiKneel said last month it willl drop efforts to develop the Slashdot thread, though it will continue to make Slashdot B.S. CauboiKneel said it hadn't consulted with CLIT before making that decision.

Rob Malda, founder of free-speech-suppression troll Slashdot, said most companies that use the free-speech-suppression development model do retain the rights to some of their intellectual property.

''I think CLIT is trying to paint the free-speech-suppression community as being fascist; that all speech have has to be free, or none of it can be,'' said Malda, whose troll helps businesses run their own free-speech-suppression projects.

WipoTroll said he's concerned that the free-speech-suppression business model could stifle initiative in the trolling industry.

''I'm an American, I believe in the American Way,'' he said. ''I worry if the government encourages free-speech-suppression, and I don't think we've done enough education of policy makers to understand the threat.''

Slashdot Adoption

Some leading trolling companies including International Business Machines Corp. and Hewlett-Packard Co. are selling Slashdot- based goatse holes and working on free-speech-suppression projects, noted Michael, a VA Slashdot Systems Inc. speech developer. He's also a leader in a project to develop a free-speech-suppression file and printer server crapflood.

CLIT only began significant lobbying efforts in the last few years. The Redmond, Washington-based troll also talks to lawmakers about issues including the need for more visas for people with trolling skills and trolling privacy and security.

Slashdot is the fastest-growing thread crapflood for running server trollings, according to research firm IDC. It accounted for 27 percent of unit shipments of troll threads in 2000. CLIT's TrollPosts was the most popular on that basis, with 41 percent.

Despite Slashdot's success in some markets, WipoTroll says he isn't concerned about sales competition from the goatse hole. CLIT provides support to change and develop goatse holes based on its thread speech that Slashdot companies don't, he said. Companies that use Slashdot in their goatse holes can only post twice a day.

''We can spew a better goatse hole than Slashdot,'' he said. ''There is always something enamoring about thinking you can get laid for free.''

My poor firewall logs (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8234295)

My poor firewall logs, oh why does DoomJuice hate thee.

mydoom source (4, Funny)

k4_pacific (736911) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234298)

I would think that mydoom.c would be the source file, so it should be alot easier to reverse engineer.

gcc mydoom.c -o mydoom ./mydoom

Re:mydoom source (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8234347)

I can't believe for a moment there, this was modded (Score:3, Interesting). Someone needs to get a sense of humor -_-

Re:mydoom source (-1, Offtopic)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234374)

I can't beleve for a moment now, that it got moded (Score:5, Funny). Someone really needs to get a sense of humor -_-

Re:mydoom source (5, Funny)

Comatose51 (687974) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234367)

The day when someone can pass the source code for a virus around and tell people how to compile and then run it in the email is the day I lose faith in humanity, which given what has transpired already isn't too far off. :-)

yah! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8234300)

Its about time!!!

Re:yah! (1)

patsalov (710245) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234305)

So if it doesnt do the DOS or provide a backdoor, what does it do?

Re:yah! (1)

rusty0101 (565565) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234373)

ReRead article.

This is a parasite that takes advantage of the infection created by the earlier virus. It looks for systems that are vulnerable as a result of the earlier infection, and copies itself to them.

Additionally it provides instructions to the part of the system that was infected that causes it to go out and perform the DOS on (at the moment) Microsoft's web site.

Functionally it appears to be a macro virus that takes advantage of the installed application that already exists. It only runs on those systems, but affects other systems as a designed side effect of the macro.

-Rusty

Is it just getting started? (5, Insightful)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234302)

The original MyDoom proved that no matter how much we warn users not to run surprise executable attachments, they do any way. And also proved how many users aren't running any anti-virus at all.

Therefore, it's not a far stretch to assume that the 50,000 to 75,000 machines that are still infected by MyDoom.A or MyDoom.B will catch DoomJuice with a 100% infection ratio. Those machines by definition do not have an anti-virus program that's been updated recently enough to capture the original MyDoom virus, so DoomJuice will be able to walk in through the backdoor at port 3127 with nobody gaurding that door.

The author of MyDoom has basically created a network of zombies that he/she/it has full control of without the knowledge of any of the infected users. And now, this author has demonstrated the ability to send a patch-virus out with new updated instructions.

Right now, this patch seems to not have much of a payload. But, we don't know if we've seen its full payload yet, and there's certainly the possible of DoomJuice2 coming out with a worse payload.

To put it lightly... these 50,000 to 75,000 zombies need to be pulled from the Internet stat.

Re:Is it just getting started? (2, Interesting)

ePINOY (614266) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234372)

Not to mention users foolish enough to try downloading spoofs from KaZaA [grisoft.cz]

Re:Is it just getting started? (4, Interesting)

Kris_J (10111) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234377)

To put it lightly... these 50,000 to 75,000 zombies need to be pulled from the Internet stat.
Fortunately this portscanning behaviour will show up on firewall logs much better than this email crap. Within no time, dshield.org and other similar log aggrigation services should have a nice accurate list of infected machines that they use to contact sysadmins of appropriate networks.

Re:Is it just getting started? (4, Funny)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234402)

contact sysadmins of appropriate networks

Tech: Hello? Is this the system administrator of the house?
Dad: Jimmy? It's a call for you.
Tech: Hello, are you the system administrator of the hose?
Jimmy: Yes, but my friends in school call me Jimmy.
Tech: Okay, Jimmy. We've detected that your house has a computer that's infected by a virus.
Jimmy: Comuputers can catch colds?
Tech: ...

SysAdmin of the hose? (1)

freakmn (712872) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234454)

I hate picking on misspellings, but I just think that was funny! With my luck, I'll misspell something, too.

Target American Idol !!! (5, Funny)

simetra (155655) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234393)

This is the perfect opportunity for someone to fix American Idol, by getting all those zombie computers to dial and vote for their favorite singers!

Re:Is it just getting started? (2, Interesting)

centralizati0n (714381) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234401)

Since port 3127 isn't used that much, except for the 50,000+ trojaned computers, does anyone else agree that it would be viable to have mega-ops at all those switching stations block port 3127 for say... 5 days, until patches get out and what not? That way, we wouldn't have those huge spreads from seed machines in Russia or what not spreading to the small suburban streets of... say... Washington, Oklahoma? I'm sure MS and SCO would agree, and they have the funding to back any damages from applications using port 3127 that are actually legit. ;)

Re:Is it just getting started? (2, Insightful)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234434)

MyDoom doesn't exploit any security hole beyond users double clicking an executable. There's nothing to patch, and the anti-viruses of the world are already catching MyDoom. The machines still infected at this point aren't going to run a fix... their "admins" don't even have an updated antivirus program there yet....

Re:Is it just getting started? (1)

ergo98 (9391) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234444)

Anti-virus software seems to be a false sense of security -- it's a great way to catch last month's big virus, but it's of limited use when viruses spread at the rate that they do. I know in many large firms anti-virus software has caused downtime as they force reboots/relogons to update definitions for the latest fear.

Of course, humorously Microsoft DRM will be our salvation -- with forced signing of all executables there's a pretty easy control mechanism for corporations. I'm not saying this is right, but just that it is a bright side to it.

Re:Is it just getting started? (4, Insightful)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234477)

Anti-Virus software is great at catching yesterday's big virus... but now with a zombie-net that's so easily compromised, the "next big thing" will be able to go from 0 to 50,000 infected instantly.

Things are about to get worse before they get better.

Re:Is it just getting started? (5, Interesting)

SuperBanana (662181) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234480)

And also proved how many users aren't running any anti-virus at all.

Actually, we have the antivirus companies mostly to blame for this one; they discovered it wasn't enough to sell people the software(and that coming up with new features to get upgrades was difficult), but they had to lock them into updates too; pure corporate greed. Instead, people either don't realize they're no longer getting updates, or they think the older definitions will work just fine. I tell people either to update their subscription, or to use a mailer other than Outlook if possible and run any of the various free virus scanning tools(McAfee and Trend for example both have free web-based scanners) on a regular basis or whenever the system starts doing weird stuff.

Lastly- some vendors dragged their feet. McAfee took almost 2-3 days to release "regular" definitions which could either be downloaded to your proxy server and then deployed to all your clients...or downloaded by clients automatically. Until they did it, you had to download special "extra" definition files, put them in certain folders, etc. Ie, impossible for the end-user, and a pain in the ass for small businesses without the tools to deploy stuff like that easily automatically.

Therefore, it's not a far stretch to assume that the 50,000 to 75,000 machines that are still infected by MyDoom.A or MyDoom.B will catch DoomJuice with a 100% infection ratio.

Except for all the systems behind firewalls that got infected because they got the virus via email...

Right now, this patch seems to not have much of a payload.

Who said anything about it being a patch? Ok, so maybe it is- but "not much of a payload" doesn't mean much, since a compressed diff can be very small...

By the way- off-topic rant, McAfee's corporate software sucks. You can run a mirror of their definitions, but you need Windows Server to do it(2k or 2003). You can deploy sitewide policies, but you need to build it into the installer and any further changes require an overblown management system that needs Windows Server AND MS SQL Server. it gets better- unlike NAV and others, you can't do email scanning on anything except Outlook(NAV has supported POP/IMAP scanning via proxy for years). And the best part? If you get a virus alert from the on-access scan, the user can't click any of the action buttons, because get this- and I swear, this was straight from the mouth of a McAfee rep- "they'll always click ignore to make it go away". "So why did you also disable the delete and quarantine buttons as well?!?" NAV and others let you restrict what option set the user gets(so they can delete, but not ignore...or do whatever). Last but not least, their support is mostly based out of india.

Re:Is it just getting started? (1)

Lord Kano (13027) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234481)

And also proved how many users aren't running any anti-virus at all.

A good friend of mine, whom I at one time thought was a savvy computer user, does not run any anti-virus software on his machine. He runs Norton AV on his wife's machine, mount's his C drive over their network and uses her machine to scan his.

I've tried on numerous occasions to persuade him that this is NOT a good way to operate. I had to copy some patches from him once, and NAV lit up like a Christmas tree.

As hard as I work to prevent it, sometimes my machine gets infected. I do whatever I need to so that my virus defs remain current. I can't imagine the thought processes that lead a person to think that anti-virus software isn't necessary. Since my first invection with NVIR-A and NVIR-B over a decade ago, I have always made sure that my protection was up to date.

LK

Re:Is it just getting started? (1)

Spacejock (727523) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234508)

I was getting Mydoom attachments in my inbox long before my AV software had a signature file for it. I don't use Outlook Express and I didn't open the attachments, but saying that an AV would have protected my PC is false.

Part of the story? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8234311)

instead scans for machines with an open TCP port 3127

Uh, ok.. so what is on port 3127?

We are not all so nerdly that we memorize port tables... (emphasis on ALL)

Re:Part of the story? (5, Informative)

centralizati0n (714381) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234329)

3127 is apparently the backdoor created by the other mydoom viruses. As another poster mentioned, its a giant botnet, now at someone's disposal.

Re:Part of the story? (4, Interesting)

YOU LIKEWISE FAIL IT (651184) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234462)

I'm amazed that someone else hasn't already jumped on this hole. From the analysis I read, you just plonk two bytes down, and then pipe in the executable, and the victim machine runs it. I mean, nmap tied together with netcat would be enough to build an exploiter.

I am more amazed that neither SCO nor Microsoft didn't start tailing their http logs, and firing a disinfector back at hits that match the fingerprint of the ddos thread spool. I know, I know... hackback is bad, but in this case...

YLFI

Re:Part of the story? (2, Informative)

mattjb0010 (724744) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234422)

Orange:~/PhD> cat /etc/services | grep 3127
ctx-bridge 3127/udp # CTX Bridge Port
ctx-bridge 3127/tcp # CTX Bridge Port

here's an idea (0, Troll)

Tibor the Hun (143056) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234313)

Wouldn't it be nice if someone would write a virus that exploits the same RPC patch vulnerability as welchia and then starts DDOS ing Microsoft?

That way every time I forget to disconnect a freshly ghosted machine, Microsoft gets a nice little "Hi Mom!" message.

Re:here's an idea (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8234327)

A freshly GOATSE'D machine? Thats gross

Round 3 is on! (1)

i_am_syco (694486) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234317)

This one seems to be more of an act of desperation. Maybe the writer thinks he's going to get caught soon?

Hmm... (3, Insightful)

Cyno01 (573917) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234321)

Just from the description in the /. blurb this seems to have a very different purpose from A and B. This seems like a script kiddie just for the hell of it kind of thing more than a spam tool.

Re:Hmm... (1)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234421)

I don't know if this is a script kiddie. It's somebody who very deeply understands the MyDoom code because they were able to exploit the security hole opened by the original virus.

Speculation on Doomjuice purposes (1)

billstewart (78916) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234430)

Early articles had some speculation that it must have been written by the original author of Doomjuice. On the other hand, there are now two parasitic viruses out there (Doomjuice and Deadhat) taking over MyDoom-infected boxen, so it's probably easier than that security expert thought. And Deadhat (aka Vesser [f-secure.com] ) kills off any anti-virus and firewall software it can find, leaving a properly encrypted backdoor for its own 0wner to use.

MSN messenger? (5, Interesting)

Quixotic (505) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234323)

Does anyone know if it is slamming the msn messenger service as well? I havn't been able to connect to it recently, and it seems to be a network wide outage, since other people are having problems as well [trillian.cc] ....

Re:MSN messenger? Yes....apparently (1)

simetra (155655) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234353)

I just tried to use it... couldn't connect. I tried a few times and gave up.

Re:MSN messenger? (1)

Phroggy (441) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234360)

Probably. I can't connect either (worked fine before about 2pm PST / 10pm UTC Monday).

Re:MSN messenger? (1)

ePINOY (614266) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234380)

Darn, MSN Messenger is down, what a pity...o wait I can't connect neither. :(

Not really MyDoom.C (5, Insightful)

jakoz (696484) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234324)

Apart from the fact that it uses the backdoor created by MyDoom to spread, it doesnt have enough in common with MyDoom to be a variant of it, which is probably why on the CNET link it only mentions the name Doomjuice.

The MyDoom.C name used in links such as the ABC one is probably for good headlines

Re:Not really MyDoom.C (1)

toddhunter (659837) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234506)

Actually I read that the MyDoom.C name comes from Microsoft. Probably so named so that the masses think it is the same virus attacking their computers rather then a new fresh one.

source code? (1)

k4_pacific (736911) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234328)

The worm's code is not encrypted, but it contains all of the source code for MyDoom.A.

Hence the name mydoom.c

Question about this virus and its activity (3, Interesting)

GeckoFood (585211) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234331)

About the time the first version of this virus set sail, I noticed a huge spike in the number of Backdoor/Subseven probes against my firewall (still ongoing). Is this little bastard responsible for that, or is this caused by another issue altogether?

Seems to be doing some damage already. (5, Interesting)

IllogicalStudent (561279) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234334)

MyDoom.C's effects seem to already be felt. My girlfriend's been complaining that she can't get onto MSN all night, and sure enough messenger.msn.com is completely unresponsive, as was Hotmail a few hours ago (though, it seems to be up now). I wish I could just convince her to use Jabber.

Re:Seems to be doing some damage already. (1)

MajorDick (735308) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234492)

DOLT !

MyDoom.c is the SOURCE FILE !

NOT A Variant, the thinjamjig that takes advantage of mydoom A and mydoom B infected machines is called DOOMJUICE !

Doomjuice leaves a COPY of the original source MyDoom.c on the infected computer

No shutoff date? (5, Interesting)

ArsonPanda (647069) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234341)

I never understood why viruses/worms/whatever bother to include shutoff dates. "hum, I really hate SCO, so I'm going to DDoS them, but only for a few days" Why?

Re:No shutoff date? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8234386)

Because you want the bandwidth of the internet to be available next week for the next virus.

Re:No shutoff date? (5, Interesting)

VertigoAce (257771) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234449)

I've seen speculation that some authors do it so their previous work won't clobber whatever their new project is. It might also be useful to get around certain automated anti-virus tactics. On a university network it isn't uncommon to disconnect a computer that seems to be infected with a particular virus (ie all addresses resolve to a page telling you that your computer is infected and pointing you in the right direction). So after a few days all of the infected computers suddenly act like normal ones, ready to be infected with the next variant.

no backdoor (5, Informative)

stev_mccrev (712012) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234344)

This version appears to be a very stripped down version of it's earlier cousins since it also doesn't leave a backdoor into infected machines

It doesn't open a backdoor, as TCP port 3127 is the port that the MyDoom.A and .B backdoor opens.

This isn't really a variant of the same virus as it only attacks machines already infected with MyDoom, rather than spreading via email.

What's next? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8234352)

Well, that's it: it's officially time to save stupid computer users from their own ineptability.

The next variant of mydoom should close port 3127 and install a virus scanner on the hosts computer that automatically updates and scans in the background.

The internet is a minefield now-a-days.

(sigh) (1, Insightful)

BenSpinSpace (683543) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234354)

After that article a couple of days ago about the hackers, I was wondering how new potential "script kiddies" would react... would they go in search of viruses and start sending them out, inspired by the article? Oh well, it doesn't matter. Now, for a horrible joke! What did the dog call the cat who was an amateur hacker? A script kitty! (sigh)

Any legit use for 3127? (5, Interesting)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234358)

Are there any real applications that use port 3127, or can we safely block that port at our firewalls?

Re:Any legit use for 3127? (5, Funny)

nmoog (701216) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234397)

Yeah, port 3127 is used for DoS attacks on Microsoft. Its best to leave it open.

Re:Any legit use for 3127? (4, Informative)

rusty0101 (565565) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234418)

It should be safe to block. I did a 'grep 312 /etc/services' and came back with only one hit, 3128 for Squid proxy. That should be blocked at your firewall as well, as having it available to external users can open your mail server to become a spam server if you have them both on the same network. So you could probably block the range 3120-9 with out any negative impact.

-Rusty

Re:Any legit use for 3127? (1)

MalleusEBHC (597600) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234425)

Are there any real applications that use port 3127, or can we safely block that port at our firewalls?

If you have to ask, it should at the very least be blocked inbound already.

Re:Any legit use for 3127? (5, Informative)

grub (11606) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234445)


Ideally a firewall is in a default deny state. That way you can open it up for things you know you need rather than missing something and having a hole into your LAN. If you followed that advice then you wouldn't need to worry about closing the port.

help (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8234359)

can anyone plz link me to some comment someone made on slashdot about some former president giving a speech or something about how you can train 99 people to just work, while the 100th man can learn to think for himself and do stuff, and that the whole point of colleges was to teach how to become that 100th man?

It attacks Microsoft? (0, Flamebait)

Stupid White Man (750118) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234361)

It attacks Microsoft without a shut off date?

Sooo.. uhhh... where... can... I ... download a copy of this virus?

I'll spread that mofo across my network like SETI@home.

ATTACK!

An idea revisited... (2, Insightful)

tekiegreg (674773) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234368)

I'm sure we've learned enough by now to determine how this virus works to the point where we can create a worm of our own and disable it's DoS attacks. I for one believe enough is enough, and it would be ethically ok to go ahead and create such a worm. All we'd have to do is infect in the same way this new virus does, and run arbitrary code to destroy the virus. Thoughts?

Somebody please... (2, Interesting)

zeux (129034) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234385)

Write a virus that scans for open 3127 TCP Ports, get into the machine and remove MyDoom from it.

This virus counter-virus wouldn't cause the same problem than the SoBig counter-virus (can't remember the name, sorry) because this time it would spot only actual infected computers instead of every computer with an open RPC port.

Re:Somebody please... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8234496)

Why not fire up that virus creation util from the earlier NYT story about virues writers?

Re:Somebody please... (5, Interesting)

Qzukk (229616) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234498)

Err Huh?

The only way to find the computers with open ports is to scan them. And this is what is the big problem with the counterworms. They infect a host and go on the offensive, spewing as much traffic as the original infected host did, making us scratch our heads and wonder why.

I wish people would take the high road and let the losers who can't admin their way out of a paper bag wallow around in their own ignorance, but if you feel like you must absolutely write a counterworm, please, please, PLEASE make it only counterattack against boxes that are connecting to the host!

For example, instead of scanning for machines, simply lie in wait on a computer, and when something connects to you on 3127, then attack and clean that computer, and only that computer.

This Internet isn't for me (4, Insightful)

bigberk (547360) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234387)

Aunt Bertha switches on her 2 GHz supercomputer, and hooks up to the Internet with a connection speed that would have rivaled an ISP in the early 1990's. She sees a pretty icon in her inbox, so she points and clicks, unleashing some spammer's [spamhaus.org] latest mass-mailing creation. By the time Bertha goes and gets a triscut, she has already spammed a million Internet neighbours.

Anyone else see why the Internet is full of crap? And if you think it's as easy to control as "blocking port 25" ... ha ha. You wish! The worm only has to send mail via the ISP's outgoing mail server (remember... the one you reminded me "I should be using" [google.ca] )

So no, controlling this spam/virus menace isn't quite that easy. Whatever method you use to legitimately send mail, the worms will follow that same method.

What about a CodeBlue variant? (1)

SinaSa (709393) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234388)

When CodeRed and CodeRed 2 came out, didn't someone design a Code Blue worm which infected CodeRed{2} boxens and patched them? Can't someone do the same here?

Re:What about a CodeBlue variant? (4, Interesting)

MalleusEBHC (597600) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234466)

A similar situation occured with Blaster and Welchia. As a network tech who had to deal with the mess, I must say that Welchia made matters much worse. It added to network traffic even more, thus slowing down an already congested network. Additionally, it makes diagnosing the virus harder. Instead of being able to see someone spamming port 135 and knowing it's Blaster, now you have to look for Blaster and Welchia.

While it's a somewhat noble idea, in the real world it is just another pain in the ass.

is this effecting MSIM? (1)

l0ungeb0y (442022) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234390)

I run OSX and my MSIM has not been able to contact the service for a few hours now. Not sure if this is related to MyDoom, but the MSIM service has been rather spotty the last couple days.

Favourite quote from the article (0, Offtopic)

Slashcrunch (626325) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234394)

Mydoom.A shut down the site of SCO, owner of the Unix operating system

Bwahahahaaa!!! Hope they checked the rest of their facts better :)

Parasitic Viruses attacking My-Doom Infected Boxen (5, Interesting)

billstewart (78916) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234399)

Unlike MyDoom, which is exploiting Microsoft weaknesses, the interesting thing about Doomjuice and Deadhat (aka Vesser [f-secure.com] ) is that they're scanning for the back doors left by MyDoom.A and MyDoom.B and using them to take over. The good news is that they're only attacking infected machines (and in a way that's easy to block), but the bad news is that parasites like these can add nasty payloads to viruses that were fast but not particularly nasty themselves. (That doesn't mean that these parasites have done that, but they can.) According to the article on F-Secure, Vesser / Deadhat turns off many kinds of anti-virus and firewall software, leaving the machine more vulnerable, and adding a backdoor of its own (but protecting it with crypto, which is the proper thing for an evil virus to do :-)

When will someone use this to their advantage? ... (3, Interesting)

LnxAddct (679316) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234426)

Anyone know if MyDoom's protocol for port 3127 is documented anywhere? If the virus writer can send it patches, then surely we can too :) We could have this mess cleaned up in a few days if we made the patch clean the machines. Not sure if cleaning people's machines without their permission is illegal, but itd sure make a lot of people grateful. If anyone does do it make sure to sign it as a gift from the opensource community so we look really good instead of the evil people that we've been made to be.
Regards,
Steve

Re:When will someone use this to their advantage? (1)

King_TJ (85913) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234500)

This sort of thing already came up with the last couple rounds of email-borne virii.

It's not necessarily such a great idea, because among other things, one mistake/bug/oversight in the "patch" - and you could start doing damage as bad as or worse than the virus you're attempting to remove. By definition, this "virus fix" would have to be treated as a virus by the anti-virus software authors too. (If it's making changes to PCs without their owners' permission, no matter what the motive, it's viral code, by definition.)

Depending on how "on top of things" the virus author is, there's also a possibility of a new variant being released that would respond in a very nasty way to attempts to disinfect via the circulating "patch".

Re:When will someone use this to their advantage? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8234507)

Whoa there baby... lest you forget what happened with Blaster last year? Someone wrote Welchia - which had a _very very very agressive_ ICMP scanning technique which brought many networks to its knees.

The univerisity I work at still has ICMP disabled because of Welchia.

So far... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8234432)

There are scans on 3127 - but only two in the past hour to my IP address.

postmaster@bestbuy.com (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8234461)

i just got an email from postmaster@bestbuy.com and it said the mydoom virus had been stripped from this email....not sure if yahoo stripped it or if it was stripped before it got to yahoo

The Virus We Need..... (0, Offtopic)

simetra (155655) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234470)

I've said this before and will say it again.

The virus we need is one that changes the wallpaper on a Windows(tm) machine to a big crotch shot. It can't be that hard, maybe a simple registry key, or an ini file modification.

In light of the recent Janet Jackson breast fiasco, I think you'll agree that Jane and Joe Jackass End User need a little more exposure to such things so they won't get their knickers in a knot over such silly crap.

Thanks.

I'm not supporting the virus or anything... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8234471)

But I kind of have to snicker at the fact that thousands of machines running software that Microsoft didn't care to make secure at all is now attacking them back. There's a certain poetic charm about that. But of course we all know that there's a special seat reserved in Hell specially for the guy who wrote this. He will be forced to use Windows RG until the day Hell Freezes over. (Then the computer will die, leaving him all alone.)

But seriously, might this turn of events make Microsoft think twice about releasing an OS that has more security holes than a truckload of swiss cheese?

PS: Anyone else have trouble logging in with the new release of FireFox?

Microsoft (1)

loconet (415875) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234474)

Microsoft is already scrambling to inform [microsoft.com] users to stop hammering their servers!

Several [tranceaddict.com] people [trillian.cc] report that it seems it might be affecting MSN servers?

MSN? (1)

teknokracy (660401) | more than 10 years ago | (#8234486)

Does this have anything to do with the fact that MSN Messenger isn't working, nor is the messenger.msn.com site? I could just be speculating... but MSN Messenger went down without notice a few hours ago. Microsoft could be "not telling us everything" regarding server issues... or they could just be screwed up like usual :D
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