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Motorola A768 Phone Loaded With Open Source

timothy posted more than 10 years ago | from the fits-in-one-hand dept.

Portables 200

Supp0rtLinux writes "According to this article over at Linux Devices and noted on here at NewsForge.com, Motorola has released a newer version of its A76x line of cellular phones. This newest release, the A768, boasts of open source softwares from Monta Vista Linux, Trolltech, and Sleepycat. The only downside is that it appears to only be available in China right now. And the older A760 released last August is still only available in Europe and Asia. Why are we in the U.S. always the last to get new cellular toys? The good news, though, is that with a Linux base and an integrated PDA and MS Office file compatibility, at least syncing this to either a Linux system or a Windows one should be fairly seamless. (A760 Review)"

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FP (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252366)

Hahahaha! Yet again!

-DT

JUDENSAU!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252503)

You are going down!

Linux is teh gay (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252380)

Open source is for teh fagg0rz!

Aphex Twin makes really shitty music (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252381)

But nobody wants to admit it.

Propz to Brittany!

Re:Aphex Twin makes really shitty music (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8253101)

No, you ARE teh zhitty!!!1!!

Loaded with Open Sores? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252384)

Indeed.

US cell phones (5, Insightful)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252409)

Why are we in the U.S. always the last to get new cellular toys?

Because you have several competing, incompatible cellular networks, when the rest of the world seems to have enough sense to agree on GSM. GSM is an easier, and denser market to conquer. The US market comes second, when something GSM is proven to work well commercially.

Re:US cell phones (1, Insightful)

Jotaigna (749859) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252536)

what about third world countries? only rich people here have access to the latest technology, because imported cellphones come so overpriced noone else can afford them. Still on the other hand in Chile are more mobile phones around than regular lines, despite the fact we use TDMA for some companies and CDMA for others.

Re:US cell phones (0, Troll)

laupark (668153) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252540)

US doesn't have GSM? Somebody tell T-Mobile and AT&T that they don't have a system in the US anymore! Does that mean that my GSM phone doesn't work anymore? You superior Europeans confuse us simple minded Americans. I really doubt it's because GSM is not the de facto standard in the US.

Re:US cell phones (4, Interesting)

el-spectre (668104) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252592)

Heh... no, the point is that we (in the US) have GSM, as well as several other competing techs. It doesn't make as much economic sense to start here.

Europe is ahead of the US in certain fields, cellular tech being one of them. It's just a fact, not an insult.

Re:US cell phones (1)

critter_hunter (568942) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252824)

GSM is more expensive to setup for a given territory than CDMA, which explains why it wasn't widely adopted in the US and Canada, where there's a lot more area to cover. Companies that offer GSM around here (Quebec & Ontario) usually offer digital service in heavily populated areas as well as major highways, and offer analog only service everywhere else.

GSM (1)

pommiekiwifruit (570416) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252860)

The USA does have GSM but they transmit it on different frequencies than other places (1900MHz instead of 1800Mhz/900Mhz IIRC) so only special handsets can work there.

Legalities (5, Insightful)

Short Circuit (52384) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252560)

Not just that, but a litigation-heavy court system and a class-action popular mindset make us the last place anyone wants to try something new.

Re:US cell phones (2, Insightful)

DAldredge (2353) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252586)

And because our POTS system doesn't charge per minute and doesn't suck as much as it does in most other countries.

Re:US cell phones (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252621)

Actually, many European countries have a FAR more modern POTS system than the US. Technically, that is. So, don't get me started on how persons are charged in the US for RECEIVING phone calls.

Re:US cell phones (1)

O (90420) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252738)

Um, we're not charged for receiving calls. On cell phones, yes, but not on POTS, which was the topic at hand.

How much? (1)

amembleton (411990) | more than 10 years ago | (#8253159)

Um, we're not charged for receiving calls. On cell phones, yes, but not on POTS, which was the topic at hand.

How much are you charged for receiving calls?

I'm from the UK, and didn't really know this happened - I don't think it does here. Does it only happen if someone from a different network calls you?

Re:US cell phones (1)

DAldredge (2353) | more than 10 years ago | (#8253060)

We are not charged for getting calls on our Plain Old Telephone System (POTS). You are thinking of how our Cell Networks work. Another reason why GSM and other cell nets are more prevalent in developing countires is there is less wire than can be stolen.

MOD PARENT UP! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252651)

It's pro US and anti "other countries", so it must be insightful. Mod up!

DAldredge, old pal! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252866)

Hey, DAldredge! I remember you! Still happy with the engagement ring set you bought on Ebay? That made me laugh so hard, I just can't forget it.

also note... (4, Insightful)

segment (695309) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252614)

Motorola claims to be the number one manufacturer of handsets in China, where IDC estimates there are 252.3 million current mobile telephone subscribers. By 2007, the Chinese mobile phone market is forecast to reach 371.4 million subscribers.

In other words... China has the United States' (or soon will have) population already as a customer in China. Do the math... Do I release it in the US and sell about 50-100 million (wishfully thinking), or do I do with a solid 100+ million Gee willikers what would you do...

Opinionater bastard [slashdot.org]

Re:US cell phones (2, Interesting)

bluGill (862) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252709)

Oh, please, what difference does it make what protocol is used? Once you have the silicon designed it is just a "library" you plug into. Sure if you are a small cell phone designer you might not bother to create silicon for some of the other US standards, but that is no excuse for not at least designing a US GSM version. (Not when you already have 900Mhz (or was it 800?)and 1800Mhz phone to design.

Or haven't hardware engineers learned the value of well designed interfaces like us software people have. GSM will not be the only standard for long, 3g systems are coming out, and they are closer to the US systems than GSM. Nobody in their right mind knowing that would design a cell phone that they couldn't move to a different protocol.

Re:US cell phones (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252779)

look into CDMA, biiiiatch. superior by design and a product of the US of A.

Re:US cell phones (1)

colnago (91472) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252786)

We also have a more litigous society and infrastructure. If manufacturers can iron out defects elsewhere we may see the technology reach our shores eventually.

Re:US cell phones (1, Interesting)

skitz0 (89196) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252929)

Its acctualy a good thing we get them last. For the most part cellphones are bug ridden POS's when they first hit the market and since most cell phone producers make it hard to flash the firmware in the US (compared to the rest of the world where you can walk into a service center and have it done!) it really is a good thing. Ive worked in the cellular telecom industry for many years and usually picked up the latest and greatest as soon as it hit the employee rec site, even then they sometimes had problems.

Hand over the source code, boys! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252411)

I want to build a product just like this and I sure am glad that unemployed programmers gave away their hard work. Why should I outsource to India when otherwise intelligent people are willing to work completely free of charge?

Re:Hand over the source code, boys! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252575)

i agree, its fucking rediculas.. and no wonder i see more and more "will code for food" signs everyday..

OMG (5, Funny)

Supp0rtLinux (594509) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252415)

300+ submissions and one was finally accepted. Time to tell the wife and kiddies... :) I've finally made it to the ranks for geekdom. Now, if only someone would sell me their extremely low /. number... something under 5000 perhaps?

Big Deal.. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252453)

I'm more interested in seeing who gets First Post.

Re:OMG (1, Funny)

dasmegabyte (267018) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252473)

I'm thinking about selling my Slashdot account on ebay. I'm a level 56 Star Wars nerd / level 52 Apple zealot.

Re:OMG (1)

dustmote (572761) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252502)

Good for combat, but your healing is going to need some work with that combination. Probably need to team up with someone who can tank well for protracted dungeon exploration.

Good lord, I think I pulled a nerd muscle with that joke.

Re:OMG (1)

AceCaseOR (594637) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252546)

No... pulling a nerd muscle would be suggesting a level combination for the team-up person.

Say... a Level 70 Moderator/Level 41 USENET Flame Warrior, for instance.

Re:OMG (5, Funny)

CompressedAir (682597) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252558)

It seems the trick was to pack in as many links as possible.

Re:OMG (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252584)

300+ submissions??? Damn, that's persistance.
Was there a wife and kiddies before the first submission? Perhaps you could post a timeline.

Re:OMG (1)

MS (18681) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252918)

"for under 5000" ?!?

I'm selling mine for 4999,- Euro - is that fair? The nick is also not bad: "MS" (those are my initials btw. - nothing Microsoft related!)

:-)

What next .... (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252417)

Linux running on the toaster ?

Re:What next .... (1)

the MaD HuNGaRIaN (311517) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252810)

Dude, that was so 2001 [k12.or.us] . Do try to keep up

Not an option (3, Funny)

Doesn't_Comment_Code (692510) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252421)

The only downside is that it appear to only be available in China right now.

Well I suppose you could learn Chinese, but paying for around-the-world roaming fees will probably screw you.

Yes, but... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252427)

Do we actually give a fucking shit??????????

Deprivation of these toys (3, Insightful)

IchBinDasWalross (720916) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252429)

We in the US are last to get this technology because we embrace it not as fully. We still have lots of landlines and service that isn't as crappy as the ones that I used in London. Europe seems to have less advanced systems, so they are more eager to make the jump away from their crappy POTS. We live in a land filled with mediocre service that people don't hate fullly enough.

Re:Deprivation of these toys (3, Insightful)

Yokaze (70883) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252628)

Bad landlines in Europe? IRC, some DSL standard had to be modified to accomodate the american landlines (smaller diameter, in average larger distance from the switch).

I guess it depends on where you live. Maybe the US is much more diverse than you think.

Re:Deprivation of these toys (3, Informative)

radish (98371) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252968)

I'm not really sure what you're talking about. When I lived in London my phone worked fine all the time (which is all I expect a POTS line to do), and was cheaper than my line here in NYC, which didn't work when I first got it and has failed again in the 4 months I've had it. So what exactly makes a landline "crappy"?

A Few Reasons it isn't in the USA (5, Insightful)

al701 (617447) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252433)

1) FCC - They have to approve every device and this takes time.
2) Slow adoption rate. The USA isn't big on advanced cells. Not like Europe or Asia.
3) Usually the better phones are GSM. Only recently has GSM become a real option here in the states.

Also: If this type of stuff interestes you, check out Smart Mobs [smartmobs.com] and the book, it is excellent.

The last thing I want (2, Interesting)

Slowtreme (701746) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252435)

Reading Word Docs on my cell phone. Combo devices... Meh

Re:The last thing I want (1)

ejaw5 (570071) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252787)

Pretty soon Verison's TXT messaging will be replaced with the new-and-improved DOC messaging. Not only can you now send messages to your friends about how bad Gigli the movie was, you can include a comparison table and charts!

Nice! (-1)

whiteknight31 (744465) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252445)

To bad it probably won't end up in the US...

Makes sense (4, Interesting)

nil5 (538942) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252446)

This is pretty much a continuation of a trend that began a few years ago. We see many embedded devices using open source, particularly linux. It makes sense for many reasons, but the bottom line is that open source is inexpensive (ie free?) and widely used, which makes development more efficient.

The really interesting thing, as I see it, is the integration we will be able to get when many devices run linux. I would love to be able to integrate my cell phone with my pda with my computer with my wireless access point. the possibilities are endless when we converge on common standards.

i always wonder where to download source code. (0)

junkymailbox (731309) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252465)

Would be interesting to see what they got under the hood ..

Not open however... (4, Informative)

JohnGrahamCumming (684871) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252466)

Although this device might be using "Open Source" software the actual software in the device isn't open. No doubt they obtained commercial licenses from Sleepycat and others so that they could get around having to release their software. Which is a pity because it makes customizing the thing so much harder.

John.

...last in the US (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252468)

The US is generally last to get new cellular toys because of the lack of a single standard. By letting the market fight it out, the FCC - whilst promoting competition amongst vendors - kinda hashed things up for the consumers.

They did it again with Digital TV too, mandating an arguably inferior standard that isn't used much elsewhere, so that the domestic TV manufacturers would be happy. Now, if they'd gone with DVB-T, prices everywhere around the World for DTV tuners would be lower. Ho hum. It seems the US Government doesn't get wireless. So the population can't, either :(

Marketability (3, Interesting)

Sheetrock (152993) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252476)

Why are we in the U.S. always the last to get new cellular toys?

There is a certain reliability factor we expect in U.S. equipment. Keep in mind that these fancy Linux phones are bleeding-edge and likely quite unstable compared to your standard PCS or analog phone. Additionally, with the amount of geography we've got to cover, the support for newer technologies just isn't there in our cell towers.

Canada's in an even worse situation, technically speaking. Even though it's easier to deploy wireless than it used to be to get phone service out to rural areas, the towers still require service.

Re:Marketability (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252516)

I can't speak for Asia, but Europe requires the network side to be damn robust. Believe me, reliability isn't the reason the States doesn't get cool wireless stuff first.

And if you had it would you want it? I only seem to hear negative things about Bluetooth from Americans... unless they use MacOS X, I suppose!

Re:Marketability (1)

dontspellsogood (674913) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252631)

I guess it depends on where you live. Pretty much anywhere I need to go in Ontario [Bell Mobility covereage map [www.bell.ca] ]with my dual mode phone is covered.

Re:Marketability (5, Insightful)

Narcissus (310552) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252769)

Excuse me if I'm mistaken, but are you trying to say that GSM is "newer technology"??

Australia has been using GSM for at least 8 or 9 years, it's not new technology. I don't mean to offend, but the lack of US support for GSM for so many years feels, to an outsider, as though it's more because it's supported so heavily elsewhere!

Plus, regarding the geography you have to cover: Australia, again, is about 70% of the area of the main "chunk" of the United States, and yet they don't seem to have much problem. The way I see it, with the higher population density, it would actually be more economical for the US to provide these so called "newer technologies" than Australia, for instance...

Re:Marketability (1)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252831)

The difference is that Americans are spread out all over that main "chunk" of land, where Australians are kinda crammed along the coastal regions, and it's not so populated out in the desert or the outback.

Same with Canada, most of the population lives along the US border, not too many people to worry about way up in the tundra.

Say hi to Yahoo Serious for me. Truly an Australian icon.

Handys in Germany (5, Interesting)

derphilipp (745164) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252484)

As I can speak for Europe (Germany), each kid (12 and up !) here needs the newest toy on the market.
Handys are everywhere - but not mainly to call someone - especially Teenagers are sending hundrets of SMS per month - for 30-40 Euro-cents each !
Photo-Handys and MMS are on their way, the market is growing and growing.

Handys are a definitely a status symbol -
You've got one ? - You're one of us.
You've got that old-styled Nokia Handy from last Season ? You're such a dork !

Re:Handys in Germany (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252532)

A a fellow German, let me tell you that the term "handy" means nothing to non-Germans. At least nothing cellphone-related. ;-)

Re:Handys in Germany (1)

tindur (658483) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252741)

A a fellow German, let me tell you that the term "handy" means nothing to non-Germans.
No but it's very funny. Germans seem to hate speaking german so much they rather use english words even though they aren't real english words.

Re:Handys in Germany (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252801)

Unfortunately, self-hatred is part of our culture since the end of WW2.

Re:Handys in Germany (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252842)

Unfortunately, self-hatred is part of our culture since the end of WW2.

A quality americans lack!

Re:Handys in Germany (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252906)

Nope! Actually, the blind self-hatred in Germany is much worse than the blind patriotism in the US. Worse for Germany, that is.

Re:Handys in Germany (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8253078)

blind self-hatred

Well, times change. Many german songs enter the german Top10 today. Take that as a sign of less self-hatred. If only our movies wouldn't suck so bad... Japan does much better movies and they took two nuclear bombs in WW2 :-/

German (1)

pommiekiwifruit (570416) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252904)

...and of course to a German, "funny" means enjoyable (something that is fun).

Re:Handys in Germany (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8253125)

Germans seem to hate speaking german so much they rather use english words even though they aren't real english words.

Not really. In general only assholes use much anglisms. The majority sticks with good old german because english sounds gay (sometimes).

"HANDY"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252760)

Scheiss pseudo Anglismen! "Mobieles Telefon" heiBt das du Arsch!

Re:"HANDY"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252780)

Abgefahren, voll die Deutschen hier. Ich bin aus Muenchen und hab den "is it good or is it whack" Troll erfunden. Und wer bist du?

Re:"HANDY"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252811)

Ich komme aus dem Penis meines Vaters und habe "Troll" erfunden.

Re:"HANDY"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252836)

Hm. Irgendwie hatte das in Englisch besser geknallt, oder? Seit ich hier lese, kann ich auf Englisch fast besser fluchen als auf Deutsch.

Re:"HANDY"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252878)

Deutchland uber alles! Heil Hitler! Heil das furhur! Achtung Juden!

Re:"HANDY"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8253013)

Dude, your german is crap... Do everyone who can understand that (great) language a favour and stick with your own language.

Even Nazis would laugh their asses off after reading that.

Damn Huns. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252910)

Obgleich ich ein Idiot monoglot Amerikaner bin, dient Babelfish I, um sehr gut zu sein!

Re:Handys in Germany (2, Funny)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252798)

As I can speak for Europe

Exactly when were you appointed official spokesperson for all of Europe?

Re:Handys in Germany (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252799)

Ich hah noch immer das Nokia 5110 und kein schleimiger Handyverkaufer wird mich durch herabwurdigende Blicke zum kauf eines anderen bewegen.

US Markets Operate of Free Market Principle (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252492)

Other markets work on what bureacrats think is best. If the US market deems it necessary to have one cohesive market, it will happen.

But it won't happen to make Timmy's little gay ass happy. I've never seen such a pussy. "Oooh, my phone won't let me xray my dick". Shut the fuck up you homo.

centericq, vnc, and gkrellm too!?! (5, Funny)

planckscale (579258) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252493)

That's all I need is an always on centericq text message center with gkrellm running to let me know when I have new emails, my cpu usage and maybe a virtual desktop into any IP address while on speakerphone with live video with gps location and news and weather alerts vibrating color ringtones bash shell mp3 playing miniDVDdiskburner ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh *splat* head explodes

Not financially feasible (-1, Troll)

hazman (642790) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252499)

The only downside is that it appear to only be available in China right now.
Well you see, I don't know if you've heard about it yet, but there is this company known as SCO. This company wants to charge everybody who runs Linux $700 per seat (or ear as the case may be). Motorola, not known for it's deep pockets, probably sees this as a risk they don't want to take.

If you want more info about this company, SCO try going here [slashdot.org]

great (5, Funny)

Triumph The Insult C (586706) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252501)

now, not only do i have to deal with people talking on cell phones while driving, i potentially have to deal with people compiling kernels on their cell phones while driving

funny... (4, Insightful)

djupedal (584558) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252505)

The only downside is that it appear to only be available in China right now

Downside for you, maybe. No downside for anyone that lives/works where these devices are used.

Re:funny... (3, Insightful)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252557)

Also not a downside for those who simply want a phone, and really dont care about the politics or philosophy of the firmware inside such phone.

Re:funny... (2, Interesting)

dontspellsogood (674913) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252711)

It is a downside for those of us who just want a fricken phone + phone # storage. Im surprised that most phone makes don't offer a basic model for each of model lines. No bells or whistles, just a good reliable phone. Imagine how long my Motorola V2260 would last with one of these new batteries (which have to power colour displays, sound chips, flash memory, mp3 players, an advanced OS, toast maker, Tony Hawk 3). I just hope mine doesn't die anytime soon.

meanwhile (-1, Troll)

larry bagina (561269) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252545)

Motorola's Phone may be loaded with Open Source, but Timothy's ass-pussy is loaded with open sores!

Please deposit $699 to make a call (4, Funny)

AtariAmarok (451306) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252551)

Full of open source?

"Please deposit $699 for the next 3 minutes. Thank you for using Cingudarl."

Re:Please deposit $699 to make a call (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252659)

Hehehehe. Your sig seems rather appropriate for this article.

I'm not buying it. (0, Offtopic)

Roofus (15591) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252599)

In fact, I'm not buying any Motorola phones until they come out with one that supports Bluetooth. Sorry Nextel, your service is useless to me until you get some decent phones.

Re:I'm not buying it. (1)

ebob9 (726509) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252783)

According to This [linuxdevices.com] , the A760 does support your precious Bluetooth.

Re:I'm not buying it. (2, Informative)

simon_hzero (722319) | more than 10 years ago | (#8253161)

And loads of other Motorolas - v500/525, v600, a830, a835, a920, a925, amongst others...

cough..cough...hack (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252619)

My god, it's full of SARS.

XBox rules!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252649)

first post!!! you lame assholes... I can post first because my XBox is a american product and my pride in my great country and my great XBox accelerate everything...

If only they would make games for that bitch... IAve played Metroid Prime and it ruled... I hope M$ will buy those japanese bastards and port Metroid to my great american console system!!!

Where's the source? (1)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252675)

Why does noone ever call on folks who use embedded OSS products to release the source, at least to people who buy the products?

here's some. want more? (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252846)

ching chong(pang ding, eggroll **dong)
{
galing ping[gang(dong[0] ? chopsuey[0] : "") + sezchuan(FRIEDRICE)];
eggroll *;

yung (!chopsuey[0])
ching = chong;
}

Re:here's some. want more? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252942)

#incrude chinpokomon

for {rongtime}
me.rove(you);

sucky; sucky; fiedollah;

Why not in the US (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252700)

Gee, I'm sure the fact that Motorola also distributes the latest Windows cellphone software in the states has nothing to do with them keeping the Linux version out of the GSM market in the US/EU!

OK, the phone is by no means perfect, but it's a good start. You think Microsoft is going to give them dibs on distributing their Windows cellphone software if they had told them, "Hey, we'll be doing Linux next year too!"

What is happening at Motorola is not the same as what happened with the PC manufacturers and Netscape? And if you believe that, you probably also believe that a massage parlor is where you go for a good backrub...

Re:Why not in the US (2, Informative)

RoyalCheese (738721) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252809)

Ooooh.. its linux.. oooh its not linux.. So fucking what? Is it any better as a mobile phone than its competitors or not? If you buy a phone purely because its operating system is open source, then you are focusing on something immaterial to the function (and styling) of the phone. You could have bought something that suited your needs better if you weren't so hung up on your "open source is best" or "MS is best" dogma!

Re:Why not in the US (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252997)

Actually the fact that it uses Linux at would suggest that there is a far greater chance that it will work with my computer. It could be be greatest phone in the world but if it will not interact with my other devices/systems then what good is it.

great (0)

hyperstation (185147) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252847)

can you make calls on it, or just play games and mess with ringtones?

Handspring Visor + Visor Phone (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8252849)

For all the advances that have come along, my Visor Prism and Visor Phone has been able to do them all.

I just need a SpringBoard and I am ready for any situation. If I am using GSM, Visorphone. If I need a 56K, I have that also. If I need Ethernet, yep, that is covered also. What else? MP3? Yes. Word Docs? Flip the screen and I can even read more than 4 words a line. GPS? Yep.. That is done also.

It isn't a clean package, but it is functional and that is something that linux is not going to be until we find a hardware maker that can pack EVERYTHING into a single unit.

Like the previous posters... I continue to wait. GSM when no 802.11B is available or 56K + Ethernet if there is a wire around.

SenatorPerry

Office file compatibility? (3, Funny)

www.sorehands.com (142825) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252850)

Does that mean that the phone will run all of the word/excel macro virii/viruses?

Hey, at least you get DVDs first (1)

DaMeatGrinder (565296) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252898)

DVDs are released first in North America. Everyone else in the world has to wait 6-12 months.

Re:Hey, at least you get DVDs first (1)

Enry (630) | more than 10 years ago | (#8253150)

Unless they're ones we want. Like Red Dwarf (stupid wait 4 months for the US version...)

But do they include the source code? (4, Insightful)

plinius (714075) | more than 10 years ago | (#8252975)

There's no point in calling it open source if the sources aren't available. And somehow I doubt that yet another big company embracing open source will actually include the sources with the product.
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