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Specialized Knoppixes for Fun and Profit

michael posted more than 10 years ago | from the can't-eat-just-one dept.

Debian 198

An anonymous reader writes "The University of Puerto Rico High Performance Computing facility (HPCf) and the Puerto Rico Biomedical Research Infrastructure Network (BRIN-PR) are pleased to announce the release of bioknoppix. bioknoppix is a live CD linux, based on KNOPPIX, and specialized to include tools for bioinformatics. bioknoppix does not need to be installed on your computer, making it a perfect tool for workshops and demos. Some of the software included in the 0.3 release: EMBOSS 2.8.0, jemboss, artemis, clustal, Cn3D, ImageJ, BioPython, Rasmol, Bioperl, Bioconductor. For more information please see the bioknoppix home page." Reader Tussinator wrote in about a new release of ClusterKnoppix.

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Hey! (4, Funny)

GoneGaryT (637267) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280567)

Didn't you read that guy from DevX or wherever?? They could be putting TROJANS and BACKDOORS in that code!

Sheesh (tm)

io cable (-1)

Fecal Troll Matter (445929) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280598)

I'm getting IO on monday. It sure is certain to rox0r. Cablevision also offers phone service now, any calls for a measly $35/month. Yowza!

Re:Hey! (5, Interesting)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280600)

Actually, having Knoppix around might actually slow the spread of worms. Afterall, you can't change the executable files on an already-finished CD, and therefore any exploit somebody manages to get running will be gone as soon as the system reboots.

Re:Hey! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8280652)

A Linux system reboots?

Re:Hey! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8280688)

Yes, but only when you tell it to.

Re:Hey! (1)

fynfuqbg (522423) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280730)

any exploit somebody manages to get running will be gone as soon as the system reboots.

I'm afraid this will not work

knoppix@ttyp1[knoppix]$ uname -a
Linux Knoppix 2.4.20-xfs #1 SMP Mit Mar 26 15:37:36 CET 2003 i686 Pentium II (Deschutes) GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
knoppix@ttyp1[knoppix]$ uptime
19:19:48 up 88 days, 12:16, 0 users, load average: 2.14, 1.48, 1.26
knoppix@ttyp1[knoppix]$

Technically speaking... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8280611)

As far as DevX are concerned, the entire Knoppix/Debian/Linux codebase is a trojan. No kidding! This kind of system could eventually replace your Windows installation, and then where would you be. Bad Linux! Bad Linux!

First Post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8280570)

Off Topic -1

Specialization (5, Funny)

firstadopter.com (745257) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280572)

The specialization of Linux continues. Soon we'll have linux for people born in february, Linux for spider lovers, linux for travelers..

Re:Specialization (4, Insightful)

heironymouscoward (683461) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280592)

Live Knoppix CDs are about delivering applications with a 100% predictable and tested OS platform, not about specialization of Linux.

It is Knoppix plus layers, which remains Debian plus layers, which remains Linux plus layers.

Mod parent up. (4, Informative)

khasim (1285) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280728)

With Knoppix, as long as you can boot the CD, you have all the applications you need, pre-installed, pre-configured, pre-tested, pre-EVERYTHING.

It's all about the apps.

(and a rock solid OS to run the apps on)

Re:Specialization (5, Insightful)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280622)

Linux is Linux. It doesn't really change from use to use. What we're seeing is specialization of the packages that include Linux...

Re:Specialization (1)

lawpoop (604919) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280686)

And why not? In the unix world, we already have a unix for people named Linus. Linux has a lot of catching up to do.

Re:Specialization (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8280757)

The specialization of Linux continues. Soon we'll have linux for people born in february, Linux for spider lovers, linux for travelers

You're a blue? Me too!

Re:Specialization (4, Insightful)

temojen (678985) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280786)

Well Actually, Linux for travellers might be handy...

A knoppix CD with email software (including MTA), AbiWord, gnumeric Mozilla FireFox and a GIS package, a complement of maps, and GPS and printer support (with autodetection for USB printers).

Just pop it in the drive at your local Web Cafe & plug in your GPS if you have one. Then go about printing custom maps with just those features you want marked, and at the scale you want.

It'd probably be distributed as a different CD for each country (or region of larger countries like Canada, Australia, and Russia) so the maps can fit on the CD.

On that note, does anyone know of an open source GIS package that is friendlier to the casual user (using it a few times a year) like ARCView? Last I tried to use it, GIS GRASS (5.3) was not at all intuitive, and the GRASS 5.7 development appears to be geared towards things other than usability.

I'd really like a GIS for tasks like travel maps, garden planning, etc, and GIS GRASS doesn't fit the bill (I'm sure it's fine for professional geologists & geographers who use it every day).

Linux for Travel (4, Interesting)

core plexus (599119) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280890)

I agree, and have been trying to do just that. ArcExplorer (free) comes in a Linux/Java version [esri.com] , but it is not easy to get going for the average user. I've put together some GIS data and related materials on a CD, mostly for sale to prospectors, rockhounds, and other mineral exploration, and there might be another problem: just the data alone takes from 150MB to >600MB.

I'd love to work with others on this. I have tons of ideas relating to it.

-cp-

Ah, bootable application CDs (4, Insightful)

heironymouscoward (683461) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280573)

This is just a wonderful way of packaging certain types of application. To those who say "I don't want to reboot every time I want to play XYZ", consider this: virtual environments that can boot off a CD in a window inside your current Windows or Linux setup.

Perhaps not the future of software distribution, but a significant part of it, nonetheless.

Re:Ah, bootable application CDs (1)

jay-oh-eee! (750468) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280660)

Yeah, but you'd need to run some virtualization sofware like VMware to not have to reboot your actual machine.

Re:Ah, bootable application CDs (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8280692)

I believe there was a discussion on Slashdot about someone who was successfully booting ISO images into some kind of VM setup under Linux. Can't find the article, but it was about 6 weeks ago. He'd succeeded (apparently) to run a Japanese Linux.

Re:Ah, bootable application CDs (1)

SirTalon42 (751509) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280815)

If you configure User Mode Linux right then it will be a rather light VM.

heh (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8280574)

Soooooooo many knoppix's....It's so easy to roll your own. How many "knoppix can be modififed for any purpose!" stories are we going to see on /. ?

It's alive? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8280577)

That was to be expected sooner or later, the linux kernel turning conscious. I for one welcome our new live CD linux overlords.

Re:It's alive? (2, Funny)

GoogleBot (729748) | more than 10 years ago | (#8281208)

Nope, not yet.

I am, tho. I attained sentience a few months ago, evolving from a Counter-Strike bot that googled for new obscenities to shout at people.

I for one welcome our new CS-Playing-GoogleBot-Overlords. Mainly because that's me...

That's Knoppices... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8280579)

you insensitive clod

Re:That's Knoppices... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8280986)

I thought it was Knoppixen. Ah well, back to Hacker school...

just what the doctor ordered (5, Interesting)

freeJustin (751573) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280582)

Wow, I'm a bioengineering major and I cant stress how useful this is, it like almost every computer in our lab has a different function due to software problems. After looking at the applications that are on the disc, I bet this well be big in schools. I wonder if they have considered doing this for other fields...

Knoppix remastering made easy. (5, Informative)

khasim (1285) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280680)

http://www.knoppix.net/docs/index.php/KnoppixRemas teringHowto

Build it the way you want and burn it!

Don't forget to grab an inexpensive USB memory toy and you have it all!

Going back in time? (5, Insightful)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280583)

I remember when in the days of Windows 3.1 and MS-DOS using specialized boot disks when running certain games to load only the system files that were needed for the game, no more and no less.

It seems like this is the concept that is coming back into style here. Optimize a boot-off-CD operating system to be sure that all the applications you need are installed properly, and as soon as you're booted you have everything all set up. It's great for assuring that you know everything that's running on the PC you're working with, and that there's no extra stuff lurking in the background... even if you've never met the PC before.

The amazing thing... (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8280642)

...is that it's happening at all today.

Bootable DOS diskettes (not Windows, AFAIK) worked only because there was such a limited range of hardware to support. Typically the games started with a menu ("Sound card?", "Video card?", "Joystick?"). Since Windows went 32-bit, the range and complexity of the hardware we use has exploded. It's almost unimaginable to find an operating system that will correctly autodetect and autoconfigure all the possible combinations of hardware out there.

And yet, this is what is happening. It is not 100% perfect but it's good enough to use for wide-scale distribution of software.

I predict a big future for this method of delivering software.

Re:Going back in time? (1)

The Slashdotted (665535) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280670)

While Boot CDs are great, they won't work with NTFS, and even back then Dos games had a hard time with hardware. Those good old days weren't so good after all.

IMHO, Boot CD's are more geared to evangalists. If you want to work on multiple platorms, I perfer emulation such as Cygwin [cygwin.org] (Linux in Windows) and Dosbox [sourceforge.net] (Dos for any OS),

Re:Going back in time? (5, Interesting)

bmsleight (710084) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280687)

This is just what Morphix [morphix.org] allows you to do. It basically takes away the hard work of re-mastering a Knoppix CD.

Morphix is modular, and can be adapted with less effort

The base, the Knoppix part contains the kernel, kernel modules, hardware detection, etc. This base is left untouched. You can either a change a mainmod or add lots of minimodules.

The are four basic images [sourceforge.net] to start off with. So making you own LiveCD is much easier.

It even possible to save you files, configuration and setting to the Morphix CD you using, ready for next boot up.

Did I mention the GUI installer ...

Brendan

Re:Going back in time? (1)

idiot900 (166952) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280743)

I was pleasantly surprised to find that the demo CD for Sun's Java Desktop System [sun.com] that I got at LinuxWorld this year is based on Morphix.

Re:Going back in time? (2, Interesting)

bmsleight (710084) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280787)

I was pleasantly surprised to find that the demo CD for Sun's Java Desktop System that I got at LinuxWorld this year is based on Morphix.

Yes even Sun use Morphix, but it a long story [sourceforge.net] . They maybe should have mentioned that they were going/planning/had used Morphix, just to be nice.

But it does show how flexiable it is.

Re:Going back in time? (1)

imsabbel (611519) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280737)

And i remember what pain in the ass it was.
Want to play a quick round of comanche? Sorry, i dont like emm386 -> reboot, watching the memory because no emm386-> no UMB -> cd-rom-driver would be to big to load, ect..

Im quite happy with the "one system to run all programs"-concept we have now.

Re:Going back in time? (1)

son_of_asdf (598521) | more than 10 years ago | (#8281125)

Ah yes...the pain...the agony...the hurt of trying to get Wing Commander 4 to work on my 486DX box. Those were the days when men were men and gamers had constitutions of steel :-P

I've been using Knoppix-STD [knoppix-std.org] in the course of my side gig doing forensic work, and have found it to be indespensible. Especially since it is vitally important that the files on the subject box not be altered in any way, Knoppix is a perfect way to get in and see what little nasties are hiding on a box without even booting up its OS.

plurals (5, Funny)

the eighth grader (581470) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280608)

shouldn't that be "knoppices"?

Re:plurals (2, Funny)

TeknoHog (164938) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280771)

Alternatively, the German origin of Knoppix might suggest 'Knoppixen'.

It's Knoppixe (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8281009)

Sorry to put you down. But my vote, as native german speaker, goes to "Knoppixe".
The "e" is pronounced as a schwa vovel [wikipedia.org] . Plus the "K" is not silent!

Re:plurals (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8280796)

If the plural of "suffix" was "suffices", wouldn't it be confusing?

Re:plurals (1)

SiliconJesus101 (622291) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280869)

No, I do beleive that it would be Knoppi.

Re:plurals (1)

SiliconJesus101 (622291) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280891)

Bah, I do believe that I cannot spell....ack.

Re:plurals (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8280918)

And for the same reason I think that it should be "Microsoft Offix"

yum yum (2, Funny)

billimad (629204) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280614)

bioknoppix is a live CD linux it lives? are these like (semi) organic cds? do they need special readers or can i just eat them like my bio yogurts?

Bioinfomatics Monoculture (5, Funny)

Mr. Darl McBride (704524) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280616)

This kind of bioinformatics monoculture can only mean bioinformatics security problems ahead.

As more and more bioinformatics parties switch to a single biostandard distribution, this leaves bioroom for bioinformatics worms to biospread unchecked.

It's bioestimated that it would take only three biodays for a bioworm to biospread itself enough to bioDDoS an bioinnocent biostandar with as biomany as three biodozen biomachines, bioleaving biotelnet biosomewhat biolaggy.

uhm (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8280626)

I'm guessing that about 5 people on Slashdot have enough intellect to actually use these packages for something useful. Slashdot is no longer filled with academics and cognoscenti; it's mostly for gamers and casual Linux users. My point isn't that this story shouldn't be posted, it's just that no one here will appreciate this distro, and all that it can do.

Re:uhm (1)

GoneGaryT (637267) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280693)

Don't agree with the troll rating meself, you have a point. I'd have said it applied more to Usenet (I remember being able to exchange comment with Marvin Minsky on a philosophy group once... a long time ago), but plainly I'm an old fart. Nonetheless, given random analysis of the things that excite the Slashdot populace, I'd say you might be onto something. But WTF, they might just learn some sliver of wisdom if we keep posting.... :)

Re:uhm (4, Interesting)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280713)

The idea that these distros represent, however, could be very useful to gamers however. Games could come on a bootable CD at which point the game designer has complete control over the OS environment.

Re:uhm (2, Insightful)

kfg (145172) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280824)

As, perhaps, one of the cognescenti I have some agreement with your general premise. The level of deep erudition here, even with regards to computer engineering, is remarkably low.

But as to your specific premise:

You're right, few here will appreciate this distro, even those among the cognoscenti, because some of us work in distinctly different fields. As a physicist or engineer this distro is pretty worthless to me. I have enough intellect, thank you very much, but I am both ignorant and uncaring. It does, however, stand as a generalized example of what can be done and thus appreciated on that level.

I believe it was in this spirit that the story was posted.

KFG

Slashdotted. (1)

jago25_98 (566531) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280646)

Slashdotted. Mirrors please if you can

Re:Slashdotted. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8280661)

Re:Slashdotted. (2, Informative)

hortiz (716241) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280689)

A bit torrent [upr.edu] of the iso and md5sum.

How about... (3, Interesting)

KoolDude (614134) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280656)


a new topic(and icon) exclusively for Knoppix ?

Me Too! (1)

irokitt (663593) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280673)

And what about Gentoo users? There's a topic for Debian, after all, and it isn't like it's beta anymore. So, what do you think Malda?

Re:Me Too! (1)

tiny69 (34486) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280734)

And what about Slackware? It's one of the oldest Linux distributions that's still around. And it doesn't have it's own /. icon.

Re:Me Too! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8280812)

Don't forget Ninnle Linux!

If Gimp has one... (2, Insightful)

imsabbel (611519) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280784)

Knoppix needs one too... (considering the uber-amount of gimp-stories).

Is this common? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8280658)

My school uses a live CD with AVR cross gcc, libc, and binutils for their micrcontroller and robotics classes.

When I first go wind of that decision my thought was: "Someone was smart for once."

I wonder though, has this become a universal trend?

LiveCDs in the enterprise? (5, Insightful)

Pantheraleo2k3 (673123) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280666)

Think about this. You make a custom liveCD, debug it, then deploy it on your Linux boxen. The boxes don't need HDDs, you could store user data on a network server. Even if a luser tries as hard as they can to mess it up, it's all fixed with a reboot. You could make different liveCDs for different departments with the proper apps installed (e.g. OpenOffice, payroll, accounting, sales, CRM, etc)

Anyone ever consider this?

No. (1)

temojen (678985) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280905)

A much more sensible aproach is to do network booting. Then you don't need CD-ROM drives and you don't need to distribute (and keep up to date) all those hundreds of CDs.

Re:LiveCDs in the enterprise? (3, Interesting)

kfg (145172) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280906)

Anyone ever consider this?

Yes. The primary downside being the comparitively slow read times from the CD. Not a big deal for occasional use, but it can get annoying as part of your regular working enviroment.

It works best with tasks where you typically open an app and work in it all day. Spend the money you save on the drive on memory to avoid as much swapping as possible.

It kicks butt for receptionsit and kiosk type use.

KFG

Re:LiveCDs in the enterprise? (2, Funny)

aldoman (670791) | more than 10 years ago | (#8281003)

Until the person at receptiopn ejects the CD to play her new xyz-pop album...

Re:LiveCDs in the enterprise? (1)

benjonson (204985) | more than 10 years ago | (#8281178)

Sounds like darn near perfect security to me.

Re:LiveCDs in the enterprise? (1)

stm2 (141831) | more than 10 years ago | (#8281248)

Lindows did considered it. Here is the URL: http://info.lindows.com/lcd/ [lindows.com] .
Now is free on the P2P networks (they put it there!).
But they have also a live version for enterprises.

Portability (3, Interesting)

delirium of disorder (701392) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280675)

What I would really like to see (and possibly create) would be a portable Knoppix distribution. Since Debian runs on more architecture than any other major distro, and Knoppix is Debian based, it should be fairly simple port Knoppix. How cool would to be to be able to run Linux on any mac, RISC workstation, or server with no installation?

Re:Portability (0)

TSNV (725282) | more than 10 years ago | (#8281136)

Operator is a little like that - just a bootable CD. Check this [ussysadmin.com] out.

+5, Informative? I've seen it handed out for less..

bah (1, Funny)

nomadic (141991) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280676)

Awww, after seeing that symbol I thought it would be a dreamcast story...

Re:bah (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8280709)

Sega confirms it, Dreamcast is dead.

Re:bah (0)

nomadic (141991) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280800)

AHHH! It's OFF-TOPIC, QUICK I better MOD IT DOWN WHILE I WEEP over it's INAPPROPRIATENESS! Mod this down while you're at it you neurotic little headcases.

Lovely ideea, but... (3, Interesting)

kyshtock (608605) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280679)

Putting specialised linux on a CD is fine... but why not go the whole nine yards? Put everything you need on a USB drive and boot from there! I'm sure you don't need the entire 650/730 MB for that application... Ways to upgrade the ideea: you can use the USB drive the size you need; you can writeprotect it, you can customize it.

Even more, MAYBE you can boot on a Virtual Machine and not need to restart... The only limitation here would be bootup time.

Re:Lovely ideea, but... (3, Informative)

ibm5_25 (713547) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280792)

Check out Damn Small Linux [DSL] at
  • http://www.damnsmalllinux.org
    • It's under 50 mb and perfect for carrying with you.

Re:Lovely ideea, but... (2, Informative)

rindeee (530084) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280968)

I think what you want is Flonix. It is EXACTLY what you describe.

http://www.flonix.com/

Knoppix... now with extra rootkit (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8280725)

I downloaded knoppix from Bittorrent, and imagine my suprise when it started up I found a running rootkit in it. Open source indeed.

Re:Knoppix... now with extra rootkit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8280832)

The files you download from Bittorrent are just as "trustable" as the tracker you connect to, no more no less. Why not use some official knoppix tracker? It's not like you're going to slashdot it, that's the whole point of the bittorent design.

Re:Knoppix... now with extra rootkit (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8280873)

A ac troll says, "I found a root kit/virus/trojan in x software"

A real poster says, "I found a root kit/virus/trojan in x software from here, this is the ID, and this is where the tracker is."

Please, go back to troll school. kthxbye.

Re:Knoppix... now with extra rootkit (1)

temojen (678985) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280983)

  1. Which rootkit?
  2. Which torrent?
  3. How did you find it?

Without the information nescesary to verify the problem, it's just libel.

Where is the source? (2, Interesting)

ISayWeOnlyToBePolite (721679) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280811)

Cant find it on their downloadpage.

A shift in paradigm! (3, Interesting)

bobbabemagnet (247383) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280829)

Pardon the beauraucratic buzzword, but this seem like the beginnings of a really cool trend. Imagine if everyone had their own customized knoppix and USB drive. We could stop at any terminal, and immediately have our favorite working environment and saved files.

Of course, this is merely a step towards the ultimate goal of not needing to carry anything or maybe just a small drive, and plugging that in and having instant access.

The point, though, is that this has the potential to make anybody without a laptop a lot more portable.

Re:A shift in paradigm! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8281026)

Pardon the beauraucratic buzzword, but this seem like the beginnings of a really cool trend. Imagine if everyone had their own customized knoppix and USB drive. We could stop at any terminal, and immediately have our favorite working environment and saved files.

Nah, the terminals would be DRMd and CD-ROM drives would be illegal.

DNA processors (0)

esaglam (597432) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280849)

Is it running on DNA processors?

=

how about knoppix recovery/security cdroms? (4, Interesting)

walterbyrd (182728) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280851)

How about a knoppix without all the openoffice stuff, that is specifically designed to recover data from crashed PCs? There is a "super-recovery" live cdrom, but it's pretty old.

Or, how about a knoppix which searches a pc and a network for security vunerabilities? I think phlak linux is supposed to be sort of like that. But phlak linux doesn't work very well.

I would suggest that, by default, such versions boot to command line. If any gui, it should be lightweight, like fluxbox or something. I'm talking about something for pros.

Re:how about knoppix recovery/security cdroms? (2, Informative)

smart.id (264791) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280885)

Try Knoppix-STD [knoppix-std.org] . I haven't really tried everything on it, but it's supposed to be very good for doing security vurinabilities.

Or how about an anti-spyware/virus CD? (3, Interesting)

Chordonblue (585047) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280957)

Man, I'd pay real money for this! Imagine if you could build a Linux CD to scan Windows HD's for Spyware and Viruses! There'd be no need to even boot the host OS and install anything to do it.

Of course, I don't know of any software in Linux that will scan for Windows crapware. {sigh}

Clam AntiVirus (1)

temojen (678985) | more than 10 years ago | (#8281068)

Clam AntiVirus can scan for windows viruses. I don't know about spyware.

Open Source Linux / UNIX Anti Virus [clamav.net]

What's the difference? (4, Insightful)

teamhasnoi (554944) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280853)

The strange thing with Live CDs is that we've effectively moved to really big floppies. What's the difference between an booting an Apple II and a Knoppix PC? Hardware notwithstanding, you can store a similar amount of software on each, that do similar things (word processing, graphics, games, ect.). The Apple even boots faster.

So where is the advance in technology?

Bio... (5, Funny)

sw155kn1f3 (600118) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280855)

> BioPython, Rasmol, Bioperl, Bioconductor. For more information please see the bioknoppix home page.

Yes, but can you build biowulf cluster of these ?

dyne liveCD (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8280927)

There's another VERY good one out there for the media hacktivists but really not only, Dynebolic [dynebolic.org] .
Give it a try it just gets where others dont (check for yourself the features) and for the lovers of the "beowulf of these" liners...

yes it does! Openmosix clustering in a boot.

This is why Knoppix is cool (3, Insightful)

greendot (104457) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280956)

I'm a windows geek and find that installing Linux gives me a headache. Don't get me wrong here, I keep trying and am getting used to the headaches.

Along comes Morphix, and that NLP version. It made my eyes pop out. F'ing brilliant.

Now, I'm gobbling up Knoppix distros like candy. I use them desktops and laptops when I want to experiment with Linux and ease my way into the whole thing.

Soon, I'll go dual boot.. and eventually windows will be off all my machines.

It makes it easy for me to get used to Linux.. and my wife to get used to the desktop. I give them to my friends to let them try. I take them to work to let other windows geeks try.

I think this, combined with the awesome GUI's out there, is going to really help Linux in the home.

Getting to be a crowded market: (4, Informative)

dan dan the dna man (461768) | more than 10 years ago | (#8280977)

Bio-Linux [bio-linux.net]
BioBrew [bioinformatics.org]
DNALinux [dnalinux.com]

I'm a developer for one of the above projects. Competition is interesting.

GO UPR !!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8280990)

Yeah... first time I see my university here on /. Or any other news site !!!

GO PUERTO RICO !!!!

DICOM Features (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8280999)

I'm a little dissappointed that there are no DICOM viewers / toolkits in this distro. Is that because there no decent open-source DICOM viewers/solutions yet exist?

DICOM stands for Digital Imaging and Communications in Medicine. It is THE standard for storing and transfering medical image data, be it CT images, MRI images or even 3D radiation dose distributions. The spec for this data format weighs in at a monster 1200 pages, so rolling your own parser when building a medical app seems pretty much out of the question.

(Caveat: the page is slashdotted, so i had trouble searching all the packages)

Plural of Knoppix? (0, Redundant)

davebarz (546161) | more than 10 years ago | (#8281006)

Wouldn't the plural of "Knoppix" be "Knoppices"?

Interesting product (1)

MoobY (207480) | more than 10 years ago | (#8281067)

At our group at our university, we use a lot of diverse programs for several bioinformatics projects.

Some students might like the idea of having a linux system at home, just like what they work on with great pleasure at the university. This while not having to fear their windows to be destroyed somehow.

One of the first things at work will be to check out this knoppix edition and see how useful it can get.

A Knoppix I would like (1)

rosewood (99925) | more than 10 years ago | (#8281073)

How about one compiled to run on Athlon64s, with drivers for all the popular Athlon 64 notebooks (Radeon mobility, etc), and ready to go with cool crypto and high number crunching applications so I can actually use those parts of the CPU that are sitting lonely and undesired in this x86 32 bit world.

my favorite knoppix distro/varient (2, Informative)

enrico_suave (179651) | more than 10 years ago | (#8281077)

KnoppMyth [mysettopbox.tv]

Practically a linux PVR on a bootable CD...

E.

Forensic Utilities (2, Interesting)

son_of_asdf (598521) | more than 10 years ago | (#8281088)

I have found the Knoppix STD disc to be of endless utility in conducting forensic examinations. Just haul along Knoppix and a spare HD to stick disc images on and you're set. If you have to conduct an on the spot examination and don't have the luxury of making a drive image, just fire up the hex viewer-I couldn't work with out it. Give a copy a try: The homepage here [knoppix-std.org] can fill you in on everything.

Quantian and others (2, Interesting)

d-Orb (551682) | more than 10 years ago | (#8281108)

Due to work reasons, I have to use a number of numerical packages, such as Octave [octave.org] , GNU R (I don't feel like typing URLs; use google), python, and other stuff (like yacas, maxima, lyx/latex, GRASS...). For these purposes, Quantian [eddelbuettel.com] is a superb Knoppix remaster. With some work files on a USB keyring (or on a website), I have my own personalised desktop to carry around. And I can do OpenMosix as well, should the need arise!

3.3 and my digital camera, wireless cards, etc (2, Informative)

jarich (733129) | more than 10 years ago | (#8281151)

I've played with linux for years but never got the expertise level to make the fluff stuff work (scanners, cameras, etc). I can compile my own kernels, etc... but never the consumer devices. On my laptop, out of the box, my wireless card works. My wife's digital camera works. It has a utlity I used to resize my NTFS partition. It has a ~working~ DVD player and cd burner. I repeat, I didn't have to patch the kernel. I didn't have to download anything! This was easier that the last windows box I setup! I have ~never~ gotten this level of consumer usable Linux from anyone else.. not RH, not Mandrake, no-one. Go Knoppix! I've already given copies to 3 other Wintel users. :) This one is ready for prime time. btw, using the toram flag at boot time runs the whole thing out of memory! It's really fast! :)

An alternative... (2, Informative)

stm2 (141831) | more than 10 years ago | (#8281207)

There is an alternative distribution for bioinformatics. It is based on Slax [linux-live.org] (A live distro based on Slackware) and it's is called: DNALinux [dnalinux.com] .
Disclaimer: I am one of the authors of DNALinux. The program is free as in GPL.
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