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Goatse.cx emoticon: / ={ }= \ (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8311516)

SCO can go to goatse.cx [goatse.cx] (RIP). That is all.

linux is for queers (-1)

(TK)Max (668795) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311518)

SLASHTREK, THE NEXT MASTURBATION
a screenplay from the library of Trollkore.

SCENE 1: ABOARD THE STARSHIP ENTERPRISE - A worried L.T. Commander Data addresses Captain Picard.

Data: Captain, sensors indicate a de-cloaking Slashdot ship one hundred meters off the starboard bow.

Picard: On screen!

Worf: Captain! We are dealing with a highly idiotic, ignorant and Linux-using species. They have been known to attack those who have superior social skills and official Microsoft qualifications in computer literacy out of fear and confusion - I recommend we attack them before they do us!

Picard: That is not the way the federation do things, Mr. Worf. When dealing with such mindless slashbots there is only one course of action to take. Ensign Wheaton hail the Slashdot ship.

Wheaton: Yes sir... but are these slashbots really so bad, according to my knowledge the open source community is a highly developed and sophisticated race of people - it would be unfair to discriminate against them just because of their foul stench and greasy complexion.

Picard: Shut up Wesley!!!

Data: The Slashdot ship has responded to our hail.

Picard: On screen.

--- Cut to a dark and lifeless ship, featuring posters of Kathleen Fent engaging in all manner of sexual acts upon the walls, with a barely visible silhouette of Michel Simms vigorously beating his cock in the background.

CMDRTACO: Captain, you are encroaching on our space, leave our territory at once and never return.

Picard: We are on an important scientific mission, studying a collapsing star - I can offer you goods in exchange for passage through your space.

CMDRTACO: -1, Redundant. You have nothing you can offer us... End Trans...

Picard: WAIT! I have... Goatse. [goatse.cx]

CMDRTACO: Then it is agreed, your safe passage through our space in exchange for the image. End Transmission.

--- The view screen turns off and TACO looks over to his first mate, CowboyNeal.

CMDRTACO: Put the image on main screen.... I wish to ejaculate.

Re:linux is for queers (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8311662)

aaaahhhhhh yes. TROLL-KORE: The only reason to even read slashdot anymore.

Sue ME!!! (5, Funny)

corebreech (469871) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311520)

Oh please, please sue ME! I could use fifteen-minutes of fame! Not only that, I'm installing LFS [linuxfromscratch.org] on my Rev. A Bondi iMac [apple.com] even as I'm typing this post! I'm such an outlaw! Come and get me!!!

Re:Sue ME!!! (5, Funny)

gagy (675425) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311573)

Oh no you don't! I'm a much bigger outlaw than you. I can do all of the above while wearing a patch over my right eye and proclaiming something to the tune of "YARRRRRRRRRRRR, I'm not attractive".

Re:Sue ME!!! (2, Funny)

BlueTrin (683373) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311666)

I can do all the above with my gang making the biggest Beowulf cluster of outlaws!

Sue us!

Re:Sue ME!!! (1)

idiotnot (302133) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311607)

You, sir, are a glutton for punishment! How long will *that* take? :-p

Linux on older mac hardware is okay, but I kind of prefer NetBSD. SCO's gonna sue them, anyway, too, because they've got binary compatibility on x86. Just a matter of time.

Re:Sue ME!!! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8311702)

Man I keep checking my mailbox every 10 min but nothing shows up. I just know its going to be me!

Re:Sue ME!!! (5, Funny)

Popageorgio (723756) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311759)

I use Windows (network issues force me to) and fantasize about Linux. Can I get, like, subpoenaed?

Re:Sue ME!!! (5, Funny)

The Munger (695154) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311774)

I'm picturing McBride's PC flashing up a little Outlook calender entry 'Today: Sue Linux user'. I guess we find out if he hits 'Dismiss' or 'Snooze'. :-)

Whom indeed? (5, Funny)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311522)

Probably someone big, someone rich, a victim of such magnitude the world can hardly not take notice, probably Munich [slashdot.org].

At least, if I were pretending not to be backed by Microsoft, that's what I'd do.

"Mein Gott! Herr McBride ist nicht gegetting keinen bier! Der kann amerikaner wasser beir getrinken und bei Holle gehen! Uf dienen lederhosen, Herr McBride!"

Re:Whom indeed? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8311548)

Either learn German or don't use it, fucker.

Prost!

Re:Whom indeed? (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8311569)

Or perhaps someone small who will settle easily and then they can have a press release that says:

"Linux users begin to bow to SCO's claims of infringement as witnessed today by settling..."

It might prop the stock up for a little while.

Re:Whom indeed? (5, Funny)

kachuik (319753) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311578)

The best quote so far:

Meanwhile, industry wags are saying that God invented SCO to give people a company to hate more than Microsoft.

Re:Whom indeed? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8311744)

Well, since a couple decades ago it was IBM we were supposed to hate, it's only fitting that we cheer them on as they defend us from the latest Great Evil(tm).

Re:Whom indeed? (0, Redundant)

mtenhagen (450608) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311667)

Well Munich is not really an option since the german judge already told sco to shut up.

It will be Google but not for the reason you think (5, Interesting)

coupland (160334) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311529)

Actually, it's a no-brainer -- they will sue Google. And before you say "ahh yes, Google, a huge Linux user" you should instead think to yourself "ahh yes Google, the premiere search engine." Because when the suit comes, that's what it will really be about. SCO is just a Microsoft puppet being used to do the nasty things M$ can't do in public.

What is Microsoft's next "big thing?" Web searching. And who have they set their sights on? Google. Fortunately for Microsoft, Google also happens to run Linux, so they can dispatch their little lap-dog on a smear campaign. Does it really matter if Google is vindicated or not if Microsoft can make businesses think "IP theft" when they think "Google?" You heard it here first...

Re:It will be Google but not for the reason you th (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8311570)

bullshit. get some arguments, boy.

Re:It will be Google but not for the reason you th (0, Flamebait)

Lobo93 (638514) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311718)

bullshit

Best...argument...ever!

Seriously, anyone with an IQ equal to a doorknob would but easily spot the puppetmastering done by M$ in this particular case... But if you want arguments, I'll give you two:

1. Quid pro quo
2. ???
3. Profit!

Re:It will be Google but not for the reason you th (5, Interesting)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311581)

How about this... Google is the biggest major user of Linux who is still profitable post-bubble. We don't know exactly how profitable because they're not public yet, but we know they have to be looking good to be thinking about an IPO.

Re:It will be Google but not for the reason you th (4, Informative)

Yobgod Ababua (68687) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311645)

Really? Is Google bigger than Lehman Brothers, whom SCO just recently threatened on this issue?

http://www.lehman.com/
http://www.groklaw.net/a rticle.php?story=200402171 13800806

Not all 'major users of Linux' are Internet companies...

Re:It will be Google but not for the reason you th (2, Insightful)

Bishop, Martin (695163) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311588)

I don't think that will be such a bad thing if it happens, I've never met a man or woman, geek or not, who didn't love google.

Re:It will be Google but not for the reason you th (1)

Aliencow (653119) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311589)

Uh...that was EXACTLY what I was thinking!
False advertisement.

Re:It will be Google (1, Funny)

darnok (650458) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311638)

I don't think it will be Google because they've got the resources to counter-sue.

I think it'll be some 13yo kid somewhere in the US; someone who definitely won't have the resources or sense of outrage to take on SCO legally, but who will generate public sympathy to the point where his "SCO tax" will be paid by someone else.

It'll get lots of news coverage, and it'll be a very "clean" operation in terms of scaring a few relevant people and not financially damaging the kid in question; he'll get paid by the news stations and magazines for his story and he'll do OK out of it.

It'll also happen in a blaze of publicity, as Darl has to push up that share price if he's gonna qualify for his bonus payment.

please sue google! (4, Funny)

QEDog (610238) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311651)

Yes! Please! Sue Google! I want them to put back in SCO on top of the litigious bastard search!

Re:please sue google! (1)

Esion Modnar (632431) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311786)

Hmm. Searched google with: "litigious bastard" and SCO: got 17 results. "Litigious bastards" and SCO got 9250.

Much better.

Re:It will be Google but not for the reason you th (5, Funny)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311658)

Actually, it's a no-brainer -- they will sue Google

They could just sue themselves. I mean, they were a friggin Linux shop called Caldera not so long ago, and one of the most prominent, if not *the* most prominent linux distro makers somes years back. If that's not called a heavy Linux user, I don't know what is.

Besides, if they sue themselves, they'll save on stamps to send themselves subpoenas, and they'll be able to use the same lawyers to sue and defend themselves.

Re:It will be Google but not for the reason you th (4, Funny)

really? (199452) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311708)

Even better, after they sue themselves and lose they have set legal precedent. :-)

Re:It will be Google but not for the reason you th (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8311789)

If you sue yourself and you loose, it's obvious you have won.

Just think about it..

Re:It will be Google but not for the reason you th (0, Flamebait)

Mod Me God (686647) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311685)

..."Google?" You heard it here first...

I have read verbal diarrhoea other places too.

And I did RTFA which said "SCO has vowed to sue a major user of Linux within 90 days, starting from November 18. One of those major users might be Google." So I didn't "heard it here first" either.

Re:It will be Google but not for the reason you th (4, Interesting)

Sogol (43574) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311776)

actually I heard it here [linuxworld.com] first...

First Post! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8311531)

First Post!

It's me! (0, Redundant)

griffman (615525) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311534)

Oh wait ... I don't use Linux. But the facts don't seem to come into play much with SCO, so perhaps that doesn't matter...

-rob.

Nice Javascript (-1, Troll)

grennis (344262) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311535)

Nice little javascript there. Unfortunately, you seemed to forget that time will exist after the countdown expires. Your countdown will start showing increasingly negative numbers.

It's called "unit testing". Give it a try someday... And try using a real language like C# instead of that script kiddie stuff.

Re:Nice Javascript (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8311584)

Real language like ? How isn't that flamebait? What a shmuck

Re:Nice Javascript (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8311592)

And try using a real language like C# instead of that script kiddie stuff.
  • Mod -1 Troll
  • Mod -1 OffTopic
  • Mod -1 Flamebait
  • Dammit he's disappeared, how can I mod him down when he's disappeared.

Re:Nice Javascript (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8311612)

Your countdown will start showing increasingly negative numbers.

.... perhaps that's the point, and you missed it?

Re:Nice Javascript (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8311634)

you seemed to forget that time will exist after the countdown expires

Will it, though? Will it? You don't know.

Joking aside, it's obvious to any higher mammal that the author is creating the division of a new epoch; namely BSS: Before SCO Sued and ASS: After SCO Sued. So tomorrow will be February 18, 1 ASS (recall that, as in BCE/CE, there is no year 0).

All your SCO (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8311541)

Are belong to us!

the elusive unicorn (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8311544)

oh they'll pull some excuse not to have sued anyone.

FUCK SLASHDOT BURN IT DOWN (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8311557)

FUCK SLASHDOT
slashdot sucks
slashdot sucks
slashdot fucking sucks
fuckers

The solution to it all... (4, Funny)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311558)

Somebody's gotta take Darl to Vegas sometime and sit him down at a high stakes table. If he was willing to bet on having a user lawsuit today, who knows if we can talk him into calling "hit" on a 20 in BlackJack...

Re:The solution to it all... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8311617)

Somebody's gotta take Darl to Vegas sometime and sit him down at a high stakes table. If he was willing to bet on having a user lawsuit today, who knows if we can talk him into calling "hit" on a 20 in BlackJack...
It'll sort of be moot if Darl has an Ace up his sleeve.

Re:The solution to it all... (1)

mdechene (607874) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311726)

Somebody's gotta take Darl to Vegas sometime and sit him down at a high stakes table. If he was willing to bet on having a user lawsuit today, who knows if we can talk him into calling "hit" on a 20 in BlackJack...

Argh! You stole my queen!

Re:The solution to it all... (1)

nizo (81281) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311777)

Actually, I think right now it is more like him calling hit on 22, since we are all pretty much still waiting for some proof here helllooooo SCO?????

Clarity (5, Informative)

Supp0rtLinux (594509) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311560)

It's worth pointing out that today isn't SCO's deadline to sue Linux users. Today's is the deadline imposed by SCO for all Linux users to ante up the money or face possible lawsuits from SCO. All things considered, I'd love to see them try. Considering the recent news of AT&T and Novell documents, I'd love for SCO to sue me, then lose their case(s) to Novell/IBM and let me sue back for extortion, loss of income, etc.

Hey SCO. I use Linux. I install Linux for 100's of companies a year. I failed to pay for any SCO licenses. Please sue me! My email is andrew@nccomp.com.

"The only thing necessary for Micro$oft to triumph is for a few good programmers to do nothing". North County Computers [nccomp.com]

Re:Clarity (5, Funny)

Lehk228 (705449) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311622)

I hope you have a good spam filter ;p

Re:Clarity (1)

Supp0rtLinux (594509) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311650)

A bogus email address is the best spam filter around. :) Honestly, though, considering the amount of spam I started receiving after using the Google Ad-Words, the little bit I get from this post will be all but inconsequential.

"The only thing necessary for Micro$oft to triumph is for a few good programmers to do nothing". North County Computers [nccomp.com]

Re:Clarity (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8311788)

Good shot getting a plug for your site modded up. And using "M$", no less! ;)

Re:Clarity (2, Funny)

KYeti (724172) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311760)

Hell they can sue me too!! Mandrake 9 modded with 2.6, and full of dirty dirty sco code. Infact, im going to email info@sco.com with this :
With regards to your threats of lawsuits towards certain users of the Linux kernel, I am contacting you to inform you of a breach of your intellectual property rights. I have been using Linux for a few years now, and am willing to repent for my sins.

I, unfortunately, am not willing to pay for a license. Oh dear. I understand, and sympathise totally if you are forced to follow up this transgression with a lawsuit. You may feel free to contact me with a summons through any of the means provided below.

My contact information is as follows.

Name :

Address :

Country :

Postcode :

Daytime telephone number :

Evening telephone number :

Email Address :

re:Today Is SCO's Deadline To Sue Linux User (5, Funny)

cb8100 (682693) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311564)

Judging by all the flames the past SCO stories have generated, shouldn't this article itself be flagged as flamebait?

i'm confused (4, Funny)

QEDog (610238) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311795)

Now I have to pay for Linux? I better switch to the new free open source version of Windows Fast!!

I've got the press release from SCO right here! (4, Funny)

ZiZ (564727) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311567)

Taken straight from sco's website [sco.com]:

We can't find "www.sco.com"

You can try again by typing the URL in the address bar above.
Or, search the Web:

...Rest of press release snipped for brevity

Re:I've got the press release from SCO right here! (1)

Holi (250190) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311602)

try scogroup.com,

remember they had to take steps due to the DoS attack.

Re:I've got the press release from SCO right here! (1)

Holi (250190) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311631)

ACK stupid me. Should always use preview,

thats www.thescogroup.com [thescogroup.com].

Re:I've got the press release from SCO right here! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8311664)

It's not the same website as www.sco.com, though.

Re:I've got the press release from SCO right here! (4, Interesting)

savagedome (742194) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311807)

We can't find "www.sco.com"

It never existed. The Almighty says it has no old record [google.com].

Actually, its interesting that Google cache reports "Content removed at the request of the site's publisher".

Imagine if they gave a frivolous lawsuit (2, Funny)

AtariAmarok (451306) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311568)

Imagine if they gave a frivolous lawsuit, and no-one came?

(apologies to whomever came up with the original Vietnam War-time adage)

Re:Imagine if they gave a frivolous lawsuit (1)

BigBadBri (595126) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311615)

it wasn't Vietnam - it goes back to WW1 at least - originally it was imagine if they gave a dinner party, and nobody came'.I think it can possibly be traced back to Sam Johnson, dictoniary scribbler, but I'm not too sure of the quote.

what does this prove? (5, Insightful)

dilvie (713915) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311582)

SCO has already said a lot of stupid things that they haven't proven. They've already sent notices out to companies who use linux (the first step in the process of suing a user) -- even though they still haven't got a ruling in the IBM case, and proven to anybody anywhere that they have a case at all. All this countdown shows the world is that SCO is consistent about one thing: much adu about nothing. - Eric

They'll Sue a Friend (5, Interesting)

Linus Sixpack (709619) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311587)

At this point I think it would be too dangerous for them to sue anyone who would put up much of a fight. I imagine an unamed user, or one of their few remaining friends. Perhaps a Microsoft shell company.

The suit can be filed. Vague statements can be made. Face can be saved. The recipient of the suit might not even contest it. More smoke and mirrors.

I dont think even Darl McBride is foolish enough to risk a big name with the legal problems they're having.

LS

Sue the pants off of my neighbour (5, Funny)

The Ancients (626689) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311604)

Err, the female one who does Pilates at 7am every morning, that is...

Pretty Please?

Other big news on SCO (5, Informative)

leoxx (992) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311605)

Groklaw just posted [groklaw.net] a text version of the SCO response to IBM's discovery request. Here's a link to the original PDF [tuxrocks.com].


This document describes SCO's case (or lack thereof) in more detail than any other piece of info so far. Lots of stuff for the Linux community to pick apart. Most especially a description of the "millions of lines of code" that they claim they own.

Darl here... (5, Funny)

Mr. Darl McBride (704524) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311611)

Chris and I have decided to sue each other. A pretty break even settlement, and we should have two victories under our collective belts.

I'm taking ownership of www.sco.com, Chris is taking ownership of www.caldera.com, and we're going after a billion dollars apiece.

I am seriously going to sue myself until I go blind. I get wood just thinking about it.

The won't sue anyone (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8311654)

SCO's all fur coat and no panties.

I can't believe /. would even post this (1)

Rick and Roll (672077) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311655)

Remember MyDoom? Whatever they promised before then, I'd say that this is a big enough event for them that it changes everything. If I were working for a company that was waiting on another company in their release schedule, and they promised to have it out, I would let them have at least another month to push it out, if they had to deal with something like this.

It's unfortunate that Darl would choose to stoop to the level of proimising stupid lawsuits. But if he's made any promises about time, in the face of MyDoom I've got to be lenient about it.

+5 Rocking, Got A Story Accepted! (-1, Offtopic)

herrvinny (698679) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311668)

Well, let me start out by saying that this is very cool, having my story accepted, and using one of my websites as reference material too! I am an official Slashdotter!

Anyway, just wanted to say, yes, everything in the About page is completely correct. I am a student at the U of Wisconsin @ Madison, freshman. My computer is a single-boot system, only runs Windows XP Home, with Windows Media Player as default for music, IE for web pages, etc. Yes, I can hear all you Linux zealots calling for my head on a platter. But I love Microsoft software, I've used every Windows version from 3.1 to XP Professional, including all the Server editions, NT, etc. (Trial CDs from MS are a wonderful thing) I play Halo (love it) and I fully expect to get Halo 2 when it's released. (Get Halo 2 out already, MS, the trailers look awesome.) Used competently, MS products are terrifically powerful. I have yet to get a single virus or spyware component.

But, I'm an open minded kinda guy, I've tried out some open source products, I like them (the James email server is particularly intriguing), I have a voting software project open on SourceForge, etc. I also don't like whiny people/organizations, which is the main reason I opened SCO Countdown.

Also, I just wanted to ask a tiny question. It just so happens that scoletter.com and scoletters.com belong to me (check the domain regs if you want, they're at GoDaddy). Would anyone be interested in a site where people could write letters to SCO, IBM, Novell, etc, and have the letters delivered to the companies? If not, does anyone have any suggestions what to do with these domains? And no, they're not for sale.

And now the hard part comes: parlaying this into extra credit in my Physics and Calculus classes, and turning this into a plus for meeting girls.... Perhaps the RA from 5th floor will start talking to me now; she already thinks I'm crazy....

Visit http://www.litigiousbastards.com!

NOW IS YOUR CHANCE TO MAKE SLASHDOT PAY! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8311753)

REDIRECT TO GOATSE!

Re:+5 Rocking, Got A Story Accepted! (-1, Troll)

herrvinny (698679) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311762)

What?! Troll? You idiot mods, I sent in the story! Compare the name of the person who wrote the story with my name. Simple equality test. I was trying to clarify a few points. Funny, Interesting, Underrated I was expecting, but Troll?

Re:+5 Rocking, Got A Story Accepted! (2, Funny)

pankajsethi (212117) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311767)

You are already a Sladhdotter. You will be a Slashdotee once your website gets Slashdotted

Not happening (4, Funny)

savagedome (742194) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311669)

today is the deadline for SCO to sue a Linux user

I am sure its not gonna happen. As they say here "Don't worry too much about SCO suing anybody today 'coz its already tomorrow in Australia" :)

The Good Word from GrokLaw (4, Interesting)

Crypto Gnome (651401) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311680)

Hints and other juicyness can be found here [groklaw.net]

Apparently a Feb 11 S-3 Filing by SCO includes the following

"Additionally, we have begun notifying selected Linux end users in writing of violations we allege under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act related to our copyrights contained in Linux."

Raises hand (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8311684)

Me me me me! please?

AT&T Trips Up SCO (5, Informative)

Laptop Dancer (572075) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311697)

Computerworld [computerworld.com] has an interesting account of a recently discovered AT&T 1985 clarification of derivative works [computerworld.com], which suggests that SCO is SOL.

But regardless of whether SCO has already sued a user or is just running a little behind schedule, winning any Linux lawsuits may have just gotten a lot harder for SCO.

Who said so? AT&T -- in 1985.

Check it out for the juce..

Here is a copy of SCO homepage (5, Funny)

BlueTrin (683373) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311709)

just in the case it gets /.-ed.

The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.
...

Perhaps it will be Lehman Brothers... (4, Informative)

Saeed al-Sahaf (665390) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311710)

At least that's somewhat implied in some speculation at Groklaw [groklaw.net]. According to that story, Lehman Brothers got a nasty-gram and promptly dispatched it to RedHat of servicing... RedHat attached it to some kind of motion or something (IANAL) suggesting that although SCO had promised the judged it was not threatening RedHat's business, threatening RedHat's customers was the same thing...

SCO will not sue anybody (5, Interesting)

terrencefw (605681) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311720)

As we all suspect, this whole, baseless, possibly illegal charade is a desparate act by a desparate company. Look at the facts:

  • They admit they have no source of revenue except "leveraging intellectual property".
  • McBride fails to understand that the GPL just sits on top of existing copyright law, so even if it is defated in court (which it won't be) they will be in an even worse position.
  • That they don't see how their own position is weakened by them distributing Linux themselves. Surely their own developers aren't so stupid as to not spot their own code in the Linux kernel (to paraphrase PJ).
  • You don't argue with IBM. Full stop. Period.

As an amusing aside, the other day I was visiting a friend of my wife's at her work. My 1 year old was with me, and, having wandered away for a second or so, my ears picked up the sound of SCSI hard discs spinning down. Fearing that I might be in the running for a few hours unpaid work bringing up some ancient Netware box (they're a bit low-tech where this gal works), I hastily powered the box back up. What had my 1 year old accidently powered off...? A SCO Unix box! Good on 'yer mate!

Bring it on (0)

SphericalCrusher (739397) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311745)

SCO can bring it on. I have a network of computers all running Linux and an Anti-SCO shirt on! I wonder if the fine is $700*my network or just $700? Eh! What am I saying.. they aren't getting any money from me.

The big crunch (5, Funny)

BenSpinSpace (683543) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311764)

SCO is going to sue a Linux user. SCO is going to sue a Linux user. SCO is going to sue a Linux user. SCO is going to sue a Linux user. SCO is going to sue a Linux user. SCO is going to sue a Linux user. SCO is going to sue a Linux user. SCO is going to sue a Linux user.


SCO doesn't sue a Linux user.

Try this:

Tomorrow, we log onto the Internet and witness a vicious battle going on. There's a flash video in which a streaming clip manifests Darl McBride in every home user's web browser. Why? It turns out that the hacker behind MyDoom is actually an evil corporation trying to destroy SCO, the promoter of Open Source software. Its first target was Goatse: by removing an object of internet culture that everyone has a love/hate relationship with, it destabalized the internet. SCO has been working around the clock to resolve the issue and restore the internet to its full power. SCO couldn't tell us its true intents only because that would ruin their plan. And thus we witness Darl McBride fighting against the MyDoom virus, incarnate, yet coded into a flash file.

Suddenly, when it looks like Darl McBride might lose the valiant fight, brilliant hackers intercept the sattelite connection going to SCO and insert special weapons for Darl McBride.

Whammo, Darl McBride wins the battle, and in a tremendous flash of colors, the creepy Peak Oil [lifeaftertheoilcrash.net] website literally explodes, covering Google [google.com] in a hidden cache of virtual oil, which can be printed out by any inkjet printer into real oil.

People even write offensive, politically volatile [friendopoly.com] websites solely for the purpose of getting people to donate money so they can buy Dance Dance Revolution.

Goatse.cx is restored, to the detriment of Internet users everywhere but to the spirit of the Internet altogether.

Darl McBride is hailed as a captain of the Internet, and he forms a team with Linus Torvalds, Bill Gates (who decides to make Windows open source) and Steve Jobs (who decides that maybe Mac programs, as good as they are, should have more than 2 options per program). They develop the ultimate flawless operating system, and Netscape, Opera, and IE combine all their best parts into a browser that has the ability to stretch one's computer screen to twice its physical dimensions while in use.

Suicide for SCO to sue anybody else (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8311765)

From Groklaw [groklaw.net]

I think there would be a large list of very negative outcomes for SCO and very
little positive if SCO were to file a lawsuit against an end user.

1. Getting involved in another lawsuit will cause attorney fees to drain their
limited cash even faster
2. The lawsuit will likely take years to even go to trial, much like the IBM
suit. Since SCO must win the Novell lawsuit first (itself years away from
beginning, much less ending) to secure undisputed System V copyrights, any end
user lawsuit would probably have to be put on hold until the end of any appeals
in the Novell suit.
3. Unless an end user is distributing the Linux kernel, they are not guilty of
copyright infringement. Copyright law governs copying and not use of code.
Section 117 of copyright law also specifically excludes installing and running
software from being infringement.
4. The money that they can get from one company for unintentional copyright
infringement is limited and likely less than their attorney fees in many if not
most cases. Lack of registered copyrights limits awards to actual damages, which
are likely to be minimal or negligible. Even with registered copyrights, damages
for unintentional copying are severly limited.
5. SCO's failure to mitigate damages since at least May 2003 limits or
eliminates any damages they can collect
6. SCO themselves distributing any infringing code in their own Linux products,
especially under the GPL, limits or eliminated any damages they can collect
7. In the event that there really is SCO-owned code in the Linux kernel, SCO
will be forced to document any infringing code and prove their ownership, which
will allow it to be removed or replaced
8. It will increase ill will toward SCO from a greater number of companies and
individuals, including their own customers, who will likely abandon SCO in
significant numbers
9. The act of filing a large number of frivolous lawsuits may be used against
SCO and its executives in a shareholder lawsuit at a later date

---

Darn, thought of some more after I submitted.

10. In the event that SCO proves there is non-GPL code in the Linux kernel, they
simultaneously prove themselves guilty of violating the GPL and willful
copyright infringement. SCO has been distributing the kernel on their FTP site
for years, even after they were aware of the allegedly infringing code.
11. SCO and/or their attorneys may be fined for filing frivolous lawsuits.
12. SCO potentially opens themselves to prosecution for fraud or extortion by
state attorneys general, the FTC or other state or federal anti-fraud or
consumer protection agencies.
13. Any portions of Linux that SCO alleges are illegal may be covered by
AT&T's failure to add copyright notices, or the code in BSD-Lite, or the
ancient Unix code that Caldera previously released under a BSD-like license.

Big surprise... (4, Insightful)

pla (258480) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311780)

Does the failure of SCO to sue Google (or any major corporate Linux user) really surprise anyone?

First of all, SCO most likely chose that "90 days" to fall after the deadline to come up with some evidence in the IBM case. Darl et al no doubt figured that they'd either have an airtight case against Google, or have found new jobs by this point.

Second, how would such a suit proceed? I'd imagine Google's lawyers would start off by requesting a dismissal with prejudice, on the grounds that SCO can't sue for infringement on something they have no rights to. Failing in that, they'd just request putting off the case until a resolution of SCO vs IBM, which means basically the same thing, they'd just have to wait a bit longer.


Finally, assuming SCO did choose Google as their primary target, the fact that Google has put off its IPO no doubt weighs heavily in SCO's inaction - The deeper the pockets, the more you can get. With $25bn, Google would have some pretty deep pockets, on the short-term. With only a few tens of million above operating expenses, OTOH, SCO would have to consider itself lucky just to win the cost of their licenses, nevermind any penalties...

Oblig. SP quote (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8311781)

Cartman[Linux Community]: Aw, damnit! Alright. It is decided. ::points:: Butters, your turn.

Butters[Random Linux User]: Oh boy, I'm going to be sacrificed to the provider!

The deadline has already passed... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8311796)

The "3 months ago article" states that

"The SCO Group Inc. said Tuesday it would sue a major user of Linux within 90 days..."

The article was published on November 18, 2003 (a Tuesday) so 90 days since November 18 :

12 remaining days in November +
31 days in December +
31 days in January +
16 days in February
---------------------
90 days

Deadline ended at 12AM February 17th.

Sue Microsoft! (1)

sheapshearer (746106) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311799)

I remember reading an article recently, that just after the RPC bugs became know even Microsoft switched to Linux servers (because its own server were so insecure).

Thus, SCO should sue Microsoft. I'm sure there would be people willing to pay for courtroom seats on that trial!

Think if they sued AT&T (5, Funny)

k4_pacific (736911) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311804)

I think SCO is trying to create a circular dependency with their lawsuits. SCO vs IBM cannot go ahead until SCO vs. Novell is resolved. RedHat vs. SCO is waiting on the outcome of SCO vs IBM. They need to sue someone who uses RedHat, so that case is blocked by the RedHat case, yet also blocks the Novell case. AT&T comes to mind. Suppose AT&T uses RedHat. They could sue AT&T over that. Such a case would then be dependent on the outcome of the RedHat case. Since AT&T originated the code in System V, SCO vs. Novell would likely depend on the outcome of the AT&T case.

So to recap:
- SCO vs. AT&T cannot continue until SCO proves its not baselessly slandering RedHat's product.

- SCO vs. RedHat cannot continue until SCO shows that IBM illegally copied code.

- SCO vs. IBM cannot continue until SCO shows that that they and not Novell in fact own the code.

- SCO vs. Novell cannot continue until SCO proves that AT&T is not allowed to violate what would be their own copyright if Linux in fact does contain System V code.

Thus it will deadlock forever, SCO will make a bunch of wild claims, and the stock price will skyrocket.

Of course, they won't gross dollar one.

Who Should They Sue? (5, Insightful)

Supp0rtLinux (594509) | more than 10 years ago | (#8311808)

1) The U.S. gov't. Why? Because embedded Linux is used in the radar systems of the FA-18 being sold on Ebay (reported recently on /. ) which the U.S. gov't probably didn't have a SCO license for and which would put an unlicensed copy of proprietory code (Linux... at least according to SCO) into the public domain. Then all the taxpayers could ante up the money. Surely the taxpayers can afford more than the 5 billion they're asking of IBM before damages... after all our national deficit is in the trillions.

2) Burlington. Why? Because they were the first, early Linux adoptee and led the way for all the others to follow. They set a trend and should be taught a lesson.

3) Germany. Why? Because they have the largest Linux role-out to date. And according to recent news their Linux roll-out cost more than sticking with Windows which means they have money to throw away anyway.

4) Google. Why? Isn't it obivious? Google is the largest and most popular search engine *AND* they use Linux. M$ wants a piece of the pie. M$ is already funding SCO, though not directly. If SCO sues Google, M$ can step in and have more market dominance. Sure they'll get sued again, but the judge will bend over for them again, and that's assuming they can even find a judge to pursue M$.

5) Lindows. Why? Because they're in everyone's faces. Sue them and you solve the M$ vs. Lindows problem, get money from Mr. MP3.com that the RIAA and MPAA couldn't get and give it back to M$ to fund more monopolistic practices and to pay all the new coders M$ will need to patch the vulnerabilities that are about to flood the internet.

Considering the lack of *technical* judges out there, this is an ideal time for M$ to start monopolizing more than ever. With technical judges busy with IBM vs. SCO, SCO vs. Novell, RedHat vs. SCO, M$ vs. Lindows, etc they'll be hard pressed to find a judge with enough competence to understand things. This is the ideal time for M$ to step up make the movie AntiTrust a reality.

"The only thing necessary for Micro$oft to triumph is for a few good programmers to do nothing". North County Computers [nccomp.com]
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