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Freenet Project More Stable, In Need

simoniker posted more than 10 years ago | from the programmers-can-be-retained-on-polo-mints dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "The Freenet Project is asking for donations to help keep their main programmer, Matthew Toseland. After a long time, finally Freenet, software which 'lets you publish and obtain information on the Internet without fear of censorship' is working fine (and fast) again, since their overload problems are almost completely fixed. They even plan to write a paper about the overload problems. If you want to try, be sure to run the latest stable or unstable snapshot."

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Don't forget... (-1)

SCO$699FeeTroll (695565) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321473)

...to pay your $699 licensing fee you cock-smoking teabaggers.

Nigger Owner's Manual (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8321736)

Congratulations on your purchase of a brand new nigger! If handled properly, your nigger will give years of valuable, if reluctant, service.

INSTALLING YOUR NIGGER.

You should install your nigger differently according to whether you have purchased the field or house model. Field niggers work best in a serial configuration, i.e. chained together. Chain your nigger to another nigger immediately on unpacking it, and don't even think about taking that chain off, ever. Many niggers start singing as soon as you put a chain on them. This habit can usually be thrashed out of them if nipped in the bud. House niggers work best as standalone units, but should be hobbled or hamstrung to prevent attempts at escape. At this stage, your nigger can also be given a name. Most owners use the same names over and over, since niggers become confused by too much data. Rufus, Rastus, Remus, Toby, Carslisle, Carlton, Hey-You!-Yes-you!, Yeller, Blackstar, and Sambo are all effective names for your new buck nigger. If your nigger is a ho, it should be called Latrelle, L'Tanya, or Jemima. Some owners call their nigger hoes Latrine for a joke. Pearl, Blossom, and Ivory are also righteous names for nigger hoes. These names go straight over your nigger's head, by the way.

CONFIGURING YOUR NIGGER.

Owing to a design error, your nigger comes equipped with a tongue and vocal chords. Most niggers can master only a few basic human phrases with this apparatus - "muh dick" being the most popular. However, others make barking, yelping, yapping noises and appear to be in some pain, so you should probably call a vet and have him remove your nigger's tongue. Once de-tongued your nigger will be a lot happier - at least, you won't hear it complaining anywhere near as much. Niggers have nothing interesting to say, anyway. Many owners also castrate their niggers for health reasons (yours, mine, and that of women, not the nigger's). This is strongly recommended, and frankly, it's a mystery why this is not done on the boat

HOUSING YOUR NIGGER.

Your nigger can be accommodated in cages with stout iron bars. Make sure, however, that the bars are wide enough to push pieces of nigger food through. The rule of thumb is, four niggers per square yard of cage. So a fifteen foot by thirty foot nigger cage can accommodate two hundred niggers. You can site a nigger cage anywhere, even on soft ground. Don't worry about your nigger fashioning makeshift shovels out of odd pieces of wood and digging an escape tunnel under the bars of the cage. Niggers never invented the shovel before and they're not about to now. In any case, your nigger is certainly too lazy to attempt escape. As long as the free food holds out, your nigger is living better than it did in Africa, so it will stay put. Buck niggers and hoe niggers can be safely accommodated in the same cage, as bucks never attempt sex with black hoes.

FEEDING YOUR NIGGER.

Your Nigger likes fried chicken, corn bread, and watermelon. You should therefore give it none of these things because its lazy ass almost certainly doesn't deserve it. Instead, feed it on porridge with salt, and creek water. Your nigger will supplement its diet with whatever it finds in the fields, other niggers, etc. Experienced nigger owners sometimes push watermelon slices through the bars of the nigger cage at the end of the day as a treat, but only if all niggers have worked well and nothing has been stolen that day. Mike of the Old Ranch Plantation reports that this last one is a killer, since all niggers steal something almost every single day of their lives. He reports he doesn't have to spend much on free watermelon for his niggers as a result. You should never allow your nigger meal breaks while at work, since if it stops work for more than ten minutes it will need to be retrained. You would be surprised how long it takes to teach a nigger to pick cotton. You really would. Coffee beans? Don't ask. You have no idea.

MAKING YOUR NIGGER WORK.

Niggers are very, very averse to work of any kind. The nigger's most prominent anatomical feature, after all, its oversized buttocks, which have evolved to make it more comfortable for your nigger to sit around all day doing nothing for its entire life. Niggers are often good runners, too, to enable them to sprint quickly in the opposite direction if they see work heading their way. The solution to this is to *dupe* your nigger into working. After installation, encourage it towards the cotton field with blows of a wooden club, fence post, baseball bat, etc., and then tell it that all that cotton belongs to a white man, who won't be back until tomorrow. Your nigger will then frantically compete with the other field niggers to steal as much of that cotton as it can before the white man returns. At the end of the day, return your nigger to its cage and laugh at its stupidity, then repeat the same trick every day indefinitely. Your nigger comes equipped with the standard nigger IQ of 55 and a memory to match, so it will forget this trick overnight. Niggers can start work at around 5am. You should then return to bed and come back at around 10am. Your niggers can then work through until around 10pm or whenever the light fades.

ENTERTAINING YOUR NIGGER.

Your nigger enjoys play, like most animals, so you should play with it regularly. A happy smiling nigger works best. Games niggers enjoy include:

1) A good thrashing: every few days, take your nigger's pants down, hang it up by its heels, and have some of your other niggers thrash it with a club or whip. Your nigger will signal its intense enjoyment by shrieking and sobbing.

2) Lynch the nigger: niggers are cheap and there are millions more where yours came from. So every now and then, push the boat out a bit and lynch a nigger.

Lynchings are best done with a rope over the branch of a tree, and niggers just love to be lynched. It makes them feel special. Make your other niggers watch. They'll be so grateful, they'll work harder for a day or two (and then you can lynch another one).

3) Nigger dragging: Tie your nigger by one wrist to the tow bar on the back of suitable vehicle, then drive away at approximately 50mph. Your nigger's shrieks of enjoyment will be heard for miles. It will shriek until it falls apart. To prolong the fun for the nigger, do *NOT* drag him by his feet, as his head comes off too soon. This is painless for the nigger, but spoils the fun. Always wear a seatbelt and never exceed the speed limit.

4) Playing on the PNL: a variation on (2), except you can lynch your nigger out in the fields, thus saving work time. Niggers enjoy this game best if the PNL is operated by a man in a tall white hood.

5) Hunt the nigger: a variation of Hunt the Slipper, but played outdoors, with Dobermans. WARNING: do not let your Dobermans bite a nigger, as they are highly toxic.

DISPOSAL OF DEAD NIGGERS.

Niggers die on average at around 40, which some might say is 40 years too late, but there you go. Most people prefer their niggers dead, in fact. When yours dies, report the license number of the car that did the drive-by shooting of your nigger. The police will collect the nigger and dispose of it for you.

COMMON PROBLEMS WITH NIGGERS.

MY NIGGER IS VERY AGGRESIVE.

Have it put down, for god's sake. Who needs an uppity nigger? What are we, short of niggers or something?

MY NIGGER KEEPS RAPING WHITE WOMEN, BUT NEVER BLACK HOES.

They all do this. Shorten your nigger's chain so it can't reach any white women, and arm heavily any white women who might go near it.

WILL MY NIGGER ATTACK ME?

Not unless it outnumbers you 20 to 1, and even then, it's not likely. If niggers successfully overthrew their owners, they'd have to sort out their own food. This is probably why nigger uprisings were nonexistent (until some fool gave them rights).

MY NIGGER KEEPS BLEATING ABOUT ITS "RIGHTS" AND "RACISM".

Yeah, well, it would. Tell it to shut the fuck up.

MY NIGGER'S HIDE IS A FUNNY COLOR. WHAT IS THE CORRECT SHADE FOR A NIGGER?

A nigger's skin is actually more or less transparent. That brown color you can see is the shit your nigger is full of. This is why some models of nigger are sold as "The Shitskin".

MY NIGGER ACTS EXACTLY LIKE A NIGGER, BUT IS WHITE.

What you have there is a "wigger".

WOW! IS THAT LIKE AN ALBINO? ARE THEY RARE OR VALUABLE?

They're as common as dog shit and about as valuable. In fact, one of them was President between 1992 and 2000. Put your wigger in a cage with a few hundred genuine niggers and you'll soon find it stops acting like a nigger. However, leave it in the cage and let the niggers dispose of it.

MY NIGGER SMELLS REALLY BAD.

And you were expecting what?

MY NIGGER DISPLAYS A MASSIVE SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT.

This is normal.

SHOULD I ALLOW MY NIGGER TO FORNICATE WITH OTHER NIGGERS?

Where are we, Wonderland? You'll have a lot of trouble getting it to fornicate with *other* niggers.

WHERE CAN I BUY MYSELF A BETTER QUALITY OF NIGGER?

I don't really understand the question ("better quality of nigger"...? WTF?)

fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8321475)

fp. booya!

Will code for spare change... (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8321479)


Welcome to the new world of Open Source, courtesy of the GNU Manifesto [gnu.org] .

FP (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8321480)

fp for the macks

Re:FP (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8321497)

well, if FP = Fourth Post, you didn't fail it my friend!

Re:FP (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8321678)

No, that would be FoP.

I'm still waiting (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8321481)

for my free Kevin. There was supposed to be a free Kevin. I'm not donating anything else until I get my free Kevin.

Re:I'm still waiting (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8321648)

I'm not donating anything else until I get my free Kevin.

Hang on-- if you're waiting for your free Kevin to pay money, it isn't really free, is it?

Besides, I'd easily trade two free Kevins for even one free Skylarov [freesklyarov.org] .

Nigger Owner's Manual (GPL) (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8321482)

Congratulations on your purchase of a brand new nigger! If handled properly, your nigger will give years of valuable, if reluctant, service.

INSTALLING YOUR NIGGER.

You should install your nigger differently according to whether you have purchased the field or house model. Field niggers work best in a serial configuration, i.e. chained together. Chain your nigger to another nigger immediately on unpacking it, and don't even think about taking that chain off, ever. Many niggers start singing as soon as you put a chain on them. This habit can usually be thrashed out of them if nipped in the bud. House niggers work best as standalone units, but should be hobbled or hamstrung to prevent attempts at escape. At this stage, your nigger can also be given a name. Most owners use the same names over and over, since niggers become confused by too much data. Rufus, Rastus, Remus, Toby, Carslisle, Carlton, Hey-You!-Yes-you!, Yeller, Blackstar, and Sambo are all effective names for your new buck nigger. If your nigger is a ho, it should be called Latrelle, L'Tanya, or Jemima. Some owners call their nigger hoes Latrine for a joke. Pearl, Blossom, and Ivory are also righteous names for nigger hoes. These names go straight over your nigger's head, by the way.

CONFIGURING YOUR NIGGER.

Owing to a design error, your nigger comes equipped with a tongue and vocal chords. Most niggers can master only a few basic human phrases with this apparatus - "muh dick" being the most popular. However, others make barking, yelping, yapping noises and appear to be in some pain, so you should probably call a vet and have him remove your nigger's tongue. Once de-tongued your nigger will be a lot happier - at least, you won't hear it complaining anywhere near as much. Niggers have nothing interesting to say, anyway. Many owners also castrate their niggers for health reasons (yours, mine, and that of women, not the nigger's). This is strongly recommended, and frankly, it's a mystery why this is not done on the boat

HOUSING YOUR NIGGER.

Your nigger can be accommodated in cages with stout iron bars. Make sure, however, that the bars are wide enough to push pieces of nigger food through. The rule of thumb is, four niggers per square yard of cage. So a fifteen foot by thirty foot nigger cage can accommodate two hundred niggers. You can site a nigger cage anywhere, even on soft ground. Don't worry about your nigger fashioning makeshift shovels out of odd pieces of wood and digging an escape tunnel under the bars of the cage. Niggers never invented the shovel before and they're not about to now. In any case, your nigger is certainly too lazy to attempt escape. As long as the free food holds out, your nigger is living better than it did in Africa, so it will stay put. Buck niggers and hoe niggers can be safely accommodated in the same cage, as bucks never attempt sex with black hoes.

FEEDING YOUR NIGGER.

Your Nigger likes fried chicken, corn bread, and watermelon. You should therefore give it none of these things because its lazy ass almost certainly doesn't deserve it. Instead, feed it on porridge with salt, and creek water. Your nigger will supplement its diet with whatever it finds in the fields, other niggers, etc. Experienced nigger owners sometimes push watermelon slices through the bars of the nigger cage at the end of the day as a treat, but only if all niggers have worked well and nothing has been stolen that day. Mike of the Old Ranch Plantation reports that this last one is a killer, since all niggers steal something almost every single day of their lives. He reports he doesn't have to spend much on free watermelon for his niggers as a result. You should never allow your nigger meal breaks while at work, since if it stops work for more than ten minutes it will need to be retrained. You would be surprised how long it takes to teach a nigger to pick cotton. You really would. Coffee beans? Don't ask. You have no idea.

MAKING YOUR NIGGER WORK.

Niggers are very, very averse to work of any kind. The nigger's most prominent anatomical feature, after all, its oversized buttocks, which have evolved to make it more comfortable for your nigger to sit around all day doing nothing for its entire life. Niggers are often good runners, too, to enable them to sprint quickly in the opposite direction if they see work heading their way. The solution to this is to *dupe* your nigger into working. After installation, encourage it towards the cotton field with blows of a wooden club, fence post, baseball bat, etc., and then tell it that all that cotton belongs to a white man, who won't be back until tomorrow. Your nigger will then frantically compete with the other field niggers to steal as much of that cotton as it can before the white man returns. At the end of the day, return your nigger to its cage and laugh at its stupidity, then repeat the same trick every day indefinitely. Your nigger comes equipped with the standard nigger IQ of 55 and a memory to match, so it will forget this trick overnight. Niggers can start work at around 5am. You should then return to bed and come back at around 10am. Your niggers can then work through until around 10pm or whenever the light fades.

ENTERTAINING YOUR NIGGER.

Your nigger enjoys play, like most animals, so you should play with it regularly. A happy smiling nigger works best. Games niggers enjoy include:

1) A good thrashing: every few days, take your nigger's pants down, hang it up by its heels, and have some of your other niggers thrash it with a club or whip. Your nigger will signal its intense enjoyment by shrieking and sobbing.

2) Lynch the nigger: niggers are cheap and there are millions more where yours came from. So every now and then, push the boat out a bit and lynch a nigger.

Lynchings are best done with a rope over the branch of a tree, and niggers just love to be lynched. It makes them feel special. Make your other niggers watch. They'll be so grateful, they'll work harder for a day or two (and then you can lynch another one).

3) Nigger dragging: Tie your nigger by one wrist to the tow bar on the back of suitable vehicle, then drive away at approximately 50mph. Your nigger's shrieks of enjoyment will be heard for miles. It will shriek until it falls apart. To prolong the fun for the nigger, do *NOT* drag him by his feet, as his head comes off too soon. This is painless for the nigger, but spoils the fun. Always wear a seatbelt and never exceed the speed limit.

4) Playing on the PNL: a variation on (2), except you can lynch your nigger out in the fields, thus saving work time. Niggers enjoy this game best if the PNL is operated by a man in a tall white hood.

5) Hunt the nigger: a variation of Hunt the Slipper, but played outdoors, with Dobermans. WARNING: do not let your Dobermans bite a nigger, as they are highly toxic.

DISPOSAL OF DEAD NIGGERS.

Niggers die on average at around 40, which some might say is 40 years too late, but there you go. Most people prefer their niggers dead, in fact. When yours dies, report the license number of the car that did the drive-by shooting of your nigger. The police will collect the nigger and dispose of it for you.

COMMON PROBLEMS WITH NIGGERS.

MY NIGGER IS VERY AGGRESIVE.

Have it put down, for god's sake. Who needs an uppity nigger? What are we, short of niggers or something?

MY NIGGER KEEPS RAPING WHITE WOMEN, BUT NEVER BLACK HOES.

They all do this. Shorten your nigger's chain so it can't reach any white women, and arm heavily any white women who might go near it.

WILL MY NIGGER ATTACK ME?

Not unless it outnumbers you 20 to 1, and even then, it's not likely. If niggers successfully overthrew their owners, they'd have to sort out their own food. This is probably why nigger uprisings were nonexistent (until some fool gave them rights).

MY NIGGER KEEPS BLEATING ABOUT ITS "RIGHTS" AND "RACISM".

Yeah, well, it would. Tell it to shut the fuck up.

MY NIGGER'S HIDE IS A FUNNY COLOR. WHAT IS THE CORRECT SHADE FOR A NIGGER?

A nigger's skin is actually more or less transparent. That brown color you can see is the shit your nigger is full of. This is why some models of nigger are sold as "The Shitskin".

MY NIGGER ACTS EXACTLY LIKE A NIGGER, BUT IS WHITE.

What you have there is a "wigger".

WOW! IS THAT LIKE AN ALBINO? ARE THEY RARE OR VALUABLE?

They're as common as dog shit and about as valuable. In fact, one of them was President between 1992 and 2000. Put your wigger in a cage with a few hundred genuine niggers and you'll soon find it stops acting like a nigger. However, leave it in the cage and let the niggers dispose of it.

MY NIGGER SMELLS REALLY BAD.

And you were expecting what?

MY NIGGER DISPLAYS A MASSIVE SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT.

This is normal.

SHOULD I ALLOW MY NIGGER TO FORNICATE WITH OTHER NIGGERS?

Where are we, Wonderland? You'll have a lot of trouble getting it to fornicate with *other* niggers.

WHERE CAN I BUY MYSELF A BETTER QUALITY OF NIGGER?

I don't really understand the question ("better quality of nigger"...?WTF?)

someone must have got their ass beat by a black... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8321540)

its ok though, your racism gets em back ;-)

Important (-1)

Fecal Troll Matter (445929) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321546)

NIGGER is no longer offensive. Please select a more updated troll.

Good stuff (3, Funny)

MSBob (307239) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321485)

I heard Gary Glitter was looking forward to this realease...

Moderators, please have some fucking sense of humour.

Re:Good stuff (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8321524)

I fucked sense once, but she wasn't very happy about it.

Re:Good stuff (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8321533)

So, enlighten me as to the joke?

Re:Good stuff (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8321570)

FreeNet, Child porn, Gary Glitter... nuff said.

what are you - 12? Go and fuck off back to school.

Re:Good stuff (2, Funny)

fenix down (206580) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321617)

Sorry, I'm rusty on my male porn stars. Who the fuck is Gary Glitter again?

Re:Good stuff (2, Informative)

darth_silliarse (681945) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321741)

Going way off topic but wishing to enlighten said reader. Gary Glitter is a British pop star who turned dirty bastard... two sites you can visit the official "I didn't do anything Guv" site [compuserve.com] , and the "I know what you did you dirty bastard" site [sexnrocknroll.com] ... hope that helps! Probably not...

Re:Good stuff (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8321547)

Can you get PC World to install it for you?

well what about.. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8321487)

burning dirty ass jews?!?!

white power!!!
white power!!!
white power!!!

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Bad joke time (1, Funny)

slash-tard (689130) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321489)

If they want money maybe they should change the name to PAYnet..... get it, PAYnet!!!

Its FREEnet but you should PAY because they need money or something..

More Bad joke time (2, Insightful)

t0ny (590331) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321634)

The fact that FreeNet is asking people for money is just dripping with irony.

Apparently its hard to pay the bills with "free" these days.

The problem I have with FreeNET is... (0, Interesting)

Mod Me God (686647) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321494)

...I don't want to store kiddie porn on my computer. And that freedom of speech BS - did the kids have the freedom not to be raped?

A shame it comes down to the lowest common denominator, but I'd prefer my internet to be free of laws I disagree with, and to enforce the laws I agree with. A difficult point, which could be summed up as don't break the law, change it.

Re:The problem I have with FreeNET is... (5, Insightful)

Penguin2212 (173380) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321522)

What about the Communist dissidents in countries like China where their government won't let them publish their views? Should they also be deprived of their freedom of expression?

Re:The problem I have with FreeNET is... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8321628)

What about the Communist dissidents in countries like China where their government won't let them publish their views? Should they also be deprived of their freedom of expression?

What if you had a child who someone took some kiddie porn pictures of, and was storing this information on Freenet (or better yet, on your computer while you're running Freenet). Should the pedophiles be deprived of their freedom?

Re:The problem I have with FreeNET is... (1)

Penguin2212 (173380) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321742)

What do I (or my childern that don't exist) have to do with that? You have just made an argumentum ad hominem, a logical fallacy. Myself, nor my future children, have absolutely no bearing on this issue.

Re:The problem I have with FreeNET is... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8321655)

Last time I checked, the West does not govern China.

Re:The problem I have with FreeNET is... (5, Interesting)

donutz (195717) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321660)

What about the Communist dissidents in countries like China where their government won't let them publish their views? Should they also be deprived of their freedom of expression?

Is freenet really going to help them though? I'm asking this as a question, not implying that it won't, but I'm wondering: Can you detect that a given packet or set of packets are freenet packets, regardless of being able to determine what's in those packets?

If I were the communist China government, I'd set up the country's firewalls to drop freenet packets. There could be benign uses of freenet, but there's definitely uses that don't appeal to the communists.

Either that...or anyone using freenet gets arrested. In China, they might have an easier time getting away with that than in the US...maybe there won't be proof that you were doing anything illegal...but can you prove that you weren't doing anything illegal?

Re:The problem I have with FreeNET is... (5, Informative)

Tracy Reed (3563) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321762)

Good luck on firewalling freenet specifically. It is encrypted and on random ports.

Freenet is not useful in very oppressive regimes (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8321673)

What about the Communist dissidents in countries like China where their government won't let them publish their views? Should they also be deprived of their freedom of expression?

If Freenet is so useful to dissidents, then an oppressive government will simply make its use and distribution illegal. They don't need to monitor what's actually being traded on it by specific individuals.

Re:The problem I have with FreeNET is... (0, Troll)

conner_bw (120497) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321676)

Communist dissidents, Nazis and Pedophiles unite!

Give me a break.

NOT TROLL (5, Insightful)

Uber Banker (655221) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321561)

I agree. The trouble is we do not all live in countries which draw a liberal line at law enforcement. FreeNET is a great idea spoiled by the rotting compost in our society which puts so many off.

BTW - if you are unaware - unlike most P2P systems, on FreeNET you do not choose what material to share, rather it gets stored (and served from) your computer according to the network-wide demand. So if someone uploads kiddie porn to the network it may be stored on your computer for others to download. Because of its anonymous nature (well, nearly) it is very attractive for people who may want to bypass local law enforcement - i.e., those that wish to engage in unlawful activities will be disproportionatly drawn to it.

Re:The problem I have with FreeNET is... (1)

Misinformed (741937) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321632)

Sucks you got modded down as a troll twice (though, IIRC, you do troll!, just not this time!) when you raise a good point that should be worthy of discussion, rather than censorship (moderation being used as a form of indirect-censorship to lower a post to the point the majority won't see it).

Re:The problem I have with FreeNET is... (5, Interesting)

kfg (145172) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321756)

I might point out that child porn and rape are completely disconnected. Some child porn does not depict any actual sexual act, and legal sexual acts may illegal to make images of. In fact, in America, it would be perfectly possible to go to jail for possessing an erotic picture of your own wife.

In Maine, New Jersey, Vermont, Conneticut, in fact in the majority of states, it's perfectly legal to screw that 16 year old cheerleader, you just can't take her picture.

You are consfusing the age of consent with the age of majority, a confusion the laws themselves often promote. Perhaps this is the cause of your being modded as a troll by someone.

P.S. you forgot to include the legal disclaimer that your post is void where advocating changing the law is illegal. The net police shall be arriving with their black helicopters momentarily. Please, do not resist arrest. Maybe you'll get lucky and get to inhabit Thoreau's old cell.

KFG

What the net was (5, Insightful)

StuWho (748218) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321500)

Freenet is what the web was before big-business began to gather it in its claws - a true forum for free speech. Well worth donating to.

Re:What the net was (5, Funny)

__past__ (542467) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321566)

It is also about as fast as the web was with Netscape Gold and a 14.4 modem.

Re:What the net was (1)

CanadaDave (544515) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321726)

More like 300 baud. Actually more like a 300 baud modem which craps out ever 5 minutes.

Re:What the net was (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8321627)

Freenet is what the web was before big-business began to gather it in its claws

Ugly, slow and with little content?

Re:What the net was (1, Insightful)

Pave Low (566880) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321723)

Exactly what 'Free Speech' on the Internet don't you have today vs 10 years ago? I'm really curious.

Or do you just have your tin-foil hat on too tight today?

Re:What the net was (1, Insightful)

CanadaDave (544515) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321745)

Try creating a website with a title like "Vivendi sucks" or "Microsoft sucks". See how long it lasts for.

Yeah, "free speech" (-1)

alex_ant (535895) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321732)

Now of course we have no free speech because when we try to tell the world that Verizon are a bunch of assholes they censor us. Wait, no they don't. It's only when we go to slashdot and say "open sores software is fucking shit" that we get censored. Funny how that is

No, it isn't (1)

John Harrison (223649) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321746)

What do you mean by that? The net isn't diminished because of big business. The same silly twinkie experiment pages can still be found, and there are more of them than ever.

Freenet is about censorship, not business. The claim that Freenet is what the web "was" is invalid. Was the net free of censorship before?

As explained in this post [slashdot.org] , Freenet tends to be a concentrator of filth, which is to its detriment in many ways. Is that what you mean by "what the web was"?

Support Freenet (-1, Flamebait)

Bobdoer (727516) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321502)

Help all of those people who need anonymous publishing abilities, freedom from censorship and child porn.

It could be worse. (1)

demonic-halo (652519) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321525)


At least it's not the KKK news letter.

And this will help I'm sure (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8321504)

"Hey everyone: Freenet is finally able to cope with the load they've ben having. Let's go post it on slashdot."

Re:And this will help I'm sure (5, Insightful)

Shane (3950) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321722)

It did help, I for one value the freedoms I have and believe freenet is one of the things required to protect these freedoms.

In short I donated $20.

Donate!!! (5, Insightful)

OverlordQ (264228) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321516)

Many may, and probably will, complain that Freenet is slow, doesn't work, etc. This is why Freenet needs your donations. Matt has brought Freenet's speed back up to where it used to be before all the routing problems. I remember when you used to be able to DL movies off of Freenet at reasonable speeds. And it's a given the 'child porn on my computer' argument is going to be brought up with the Free Speech for everything but that! vs the Free Speech Perdiod zealots fighting it out.

Re:Donate!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8321661)

I also would like everyone to pay me for writing some software. The software isn't ready yet and nobody wants to use it and they maybe never WILL want to, but you should donate to my salary anyway.

Also, I'd donate bandwidth/storage to freenet since I have a 3.5mbps connection, but it's with Comcast and last thing I want is Freenet causing me to get a notice from my provider for hitting the magic hidden bandwidth cap.

Re:Donate!!! (1)

CanadaDave (544515) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321757)

Britney's site loads up faster now. I use it as a benchmark for progress on Freenet. Also the Playboy centerfolds page.

Funny (4, Interesting)

Phosphor3k (542747) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321520)

I just installed it and its running slow as shit. Same as last time. Is freenet being slashdotted or is this just hype?

An anonymous reader? (4, Funny)

lawpoop (604919) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321530)

An anonymous reader writes...

An anonymous reader? Hah! I've traced the pirate back to the ip 234.4.119.181! So much for slashdot anonymity! Which just goes to show...
You should have used FreeNet[tm].

I don't like Freenet (-1, Troll)

rokzy (687636) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321531)

maybe flamebait (especially to constitution-loving USians) but I don't believe in freedom of speech as an absolute right.

there are many times when it should be, and is, censored.

Re:I don't like Freenet (2, Insightful)

El (94934) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321597)

I don't believe in freedom of speech as an absolute right. It's not. The principle is "You're freedom to swing your fist ends where my nose begins." In other words, the obligation to do no harm trumps the right to free speech. I'm free to call you an asshole, because presumably that does no harm. However, I'm not free to publish your credit card numbers! How does this relate to Freenet? I don't know... most of the anonymous remailers got shut down due to their inability to prevent themselves from being used for criminal behavior. What checks does Freenet have in place to preserve privacy, and yet prevent the distribution of illegal material? Do the developers beleive in an absolute right to distribute copyrighted material, or child porn?

Re:I don't like Freenet (1)

bersl2 (689221) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321744)

Must those in extreme need of free speech suffer for the crimes of the abusers of free speech?

Usually, the privledge is taken away from both parties. With Freenet, we have the chance not to take that path.

Re:I don't like Freenet (2, Insightful)

jagapen (11417) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321613)

Funny, THEMians criticizing the United States' legal system without understanding it. We believe the same thing here, epitomized by the famous hypothetical that you don't have the right to shout "Fire!" in a crowded theater because of the stampede danger.

Re:I don't like Freenet (1)

rokzy (687636) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321758)

it's not MY understanding of US law that I'm worried about ;-)

e.g. many Americans point to the 2nd ammendment as an absolute argument against gun-control, conveniently ignoring the parts about "well-regulated" and "milita being needed".

Re:I don't like Freenet (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8321694)

I don't believe in freedom of speech as an absolute right.

I'll do you one better -- I don't believe in freedom of thought as an absolute right.

Consider that speech you want to censor. The underlying thought must be illegal as well. We shall set up a sting operation to crackdown on your illegal thoughts, which you cleverly hide by never speaking them. How about mandatory brain scans, once we learn how to decode your thoughts? You will not hide for long, you traitor!

Re:I don't like Freenet (3, Insightful)

sean1121 (614907) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321713)

...but I don't believe in freedom of speech as an absolute right.

Why? When is it ok to silence speech? When it goes against something you belive in? I personally don't agree with your post
but that doesn't mean that I think you shouldn't be allowed to speak your opinion.

Freenet (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8321536)

They should rename it NoSuchThingAsAFreeLunchNet Project.

Since everyone is asking for donations (4, Funny)

aiyo (653781) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321537)

I am also in need of a donation for Free 'Net. Yes thats right, with and small paypal donation you can provide me with free cable Internet access! With your donation you will recieve one picture* of me using the Internet, and a monthly status update on my browsing expierence. Sure you can mod me down and ignore this post, but that doesn't do anything to help the problem of us who pay our own bills.

*Content of picture my be inappropriate and disturbing. 18 and over only.

How does freenet help... (5, Interesting)

funny-jack (741994) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321541)

...when trying to pull up the freenet website results in something like this (what I see at work):

Request for URL http://66.35.250.209:80/ denied by WebBlocker (Status: denied Category: questionable/illegal/gambling). This site has been blocked per Company [or country] policy.

Are there alternate sources to get Freenet in the first place?

Just a guess here... (1)

heinousjay (683506) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321590)

Are there alternate sources to get Freenet in the first place?

Home?

Re:How does freenet help... (2, Informative)

PatrickThomson (712694) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321601)

Freenet is a sourceforge project, so you should be able to get it from there.

Re:How does freenet help... (1)

Kenja (541830) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321647)

Its wankers like you that force IT people like me to block sites like this. Go home.

Re:How does freenet help... (1)

fenix down (206580) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321705)

If you get Freenet you can get Freenet off of Freenet.

Freenet... (3, Interesting)

Sentosus (751729) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321548)

While I don't have much to add other than I was using the software for months on end, I wanted to point out that free speech is only one of the many valuable resources available.

What if it was YOU that had your personal information dragged all through freenet from an Ex-Wife or Disgruntal banker? I bet then you would wish for some control to the service.

Re:Freenet... (4, Insightful)

SheldonYoung (25077) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321666)

The inverse is also true. What if YOU had something you needed to say but couldn't?

Re:Freenet... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8321679)

What if it was YOU that had your personal information dragged all through freenet from an Ex-Wife or Disgruntal banker?

Hmm. That's true. I'd hate for people to know how many disgruntals I had.

Seriously, though. What's the difference between somebody putting your private stuff on Freenet, and somebody using the Postal Service anonymously?

Anonymity is not a new concept.

Re:Freenet... (4, Funny)

fenix down (206580) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321689)

Disgruntal takes no responsibility for the actions of our bankers taken off company time. If you have a dispute with a Disgruntal banker, we suggest that you take it up with the banker him/herself.

Oh, and your ex told me about that last Christmas before she left you. You totally deserve it, you fucker. And what the hell were you doing with the owls in that picture? There's all this glare coming off the ice sculpture.

Re:Freenet... (5, Insightful)

seanadams.com (463190) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321692)

What if it was YOU that had your personal information dragged all through freenet from an Ex-Wife or Disgruntal banker? I bet then you would wish for some control to the service.

No, I would be going after my ex-wife or banker, not complaining about freenet.

Hmmm (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8321558)

is freenet free as in beer or free as in speech or free as in free base or free as in free bsd or free as in free bird or free as free lance or free as in free bsd?

Re:Hmmm (1)

Deraj DeZine (726641) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321753)

Here's hoping it's free as in free basing... Bring on the Pyrex fission!
I've been waiting for an open source drug simulator. Combine this with Free Yayo and I think we'll be in business (referencing the shirt, I know it's spelled "llello").

How many kilos was the download, again?

freenet : (1, Insightful)

blue_adept (40915) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321560)

fails to solve a problem that doesn't exist

The network is finally working, Great.... (5, Informative)

Magila (138485) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321565)

...now give me an implementation that doesn't use 120MB of memory and 50% of my CPU. Freenet has been a total resource pig for quite a while now, I'm surprised there hasn't been more emphasis on reducing it's usage.

Re:The network is finally working, Great.... (4, Informative)

SheldonYoung (25077) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321614)

There has been a significant amount of work done on reducing memory and CPU usage during the last couple of months. In addition to a lot of tuning and profiling, a great improvement was made by switching to asychronous IO (multiplexing).

If for some reason you have a particularily slow computer the resource usage can be reduced by turning down the number of threads and/or connections it uses.

Re:The network is finally working, Great.... (1)

Magila (138485) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321670)

I'm aware of the supposed improvments made recently, but task manager doesn't lie. The last time I gave freenet a trial run was a couple of weeks ago, and it quickly ate the full 128MB the JVM would allow and after a few hours was using 25-50% of my CPU. This is simply unaccepable for an app that's meant to run in the background 24/7. I know I could get another system to run it on, but that's quite a bit of work just to run one app and I don't have room here in the dorm anyways.

Re:The network is finally working, Great.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8321624)

rewrite it in C and recompile it with mm and you will not have that problem anymore.

Re:The network is finally working, Great.... (1)

Penguin2212 (173380) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321629)

Nobody said you actually have the run the network client on your main PC. You could dust off an old PC you've got lying around, run it dedicated, and connect to it when you want to use Freenet.

I Tried Freenet Once Before (3, Insightful)

dupper (470576) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321573)

I tried using it every day for a week, and I could only get to the help page and the "Are you sure?" BS of one of the others, and each took almost half an hour to load. Even so, I kept it installed for almost a month.

I'm glad that they claim to have fixed those issues, because I seriously love the concept, and I'm jumping at the chance to try it again.

Great Idea, but.. (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8321578)

Freenet is a great idea for a project, and seems to have some great information on their system, but one thing I hated about it when I remember running it within the last year or two, was the Java VM would eat up memory and CPU like there is no tomorrow. I would be doing other stuff on my system, and notice a very considerable slowdown. While listing my processes I noticed that the JVM was eating like 100-200MB of memory and 50% or more of CPU at times. It wasn't like this all the time, but seemed to happen every couple or few hours. Maybe it was some bug in my setup, but things like this really shouldn't be an issue when you are dealing with a P2P application. I know Freenet encrypts and decrypts lots of information, but on a system with decent specs (2GHz CPU, 1GB Ram), it shouldn't be that noticeable.

Re:Great Idea, but.. (-1, Troll)

Kazoo the Clown (644526) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321693)

Great idea, but it's written in Java? That tears it-- I was gonna download it before I read this one. From what I've seen, Java has the resource-hog-bloatware bug worse than Micro$oft...

2 Questions (5, Interesting)

chadjg (615827) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321580)

I'm sympathetic to Freenet's idea, as I understand it, but still a little hesitant. I have two questions.

First, is it relatively safe? Does it do what the directions say it does and no more? Is especially vile content a big problem and will I feel guilty once I get into it?

Second, Is it being run efficiently? I really don't know what it would take. One programmer plus a herd of volunteers sounds good, but please do let me know.

Thanks. I have a new bunch of parts coming in and will soon have more than 500MB of disk space to spare, so this isn't an entirely idle bunch of questions.

Re:2 Questions (1)

SheldonYoung (25077) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321728)

Is it safe? Mostly. Without a proper audit and knowing what you want to be safe from, it's impossible to say yes. If you mean safe from vile content, fortunately it's quite easy to avoid sites or content you would really prefer not to see. Unlike the Internet, content is almost always labelled for what it is.

Is is ran efficiently? Pretty much. It would be nice if the heard was larger. Discussions tend to be ocassionally heated but generally intelligent.

Is censorship such a bad thing? (-1, Troll)

demonic-halo (652519) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321589)

Without censorship,

Our kinds will be teenage sluts, working for pyramid groups, worshiping some pagan god, while indulging in transgender, transpecies, disgusting courtship rituals that involves ritualistic sacrifices of viginity, then eBaying their souls to the lowest bidder, which of course is horrible since it strays from our capitalistic ways and eventually turn us all into slutty transgendered pagan communists.

Anyways.. in our society where we expect the world to educate our kids, we're not ready to move away from censorship.

Re:Is censorship such a bad thing? (1, Insightful)

donutz (195717) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321706)

Without censorship,

Our kinds will be teenage sluts, working for pyramid groups, worshiping some pagan god, while indulging in transgender, transpecies, disgusting courtship rituals that involves ritualistic sacrifices of viginity, then eBaying their souls to the lowest bidder, which of course is horrible since it strays from our capitalistic ways and eventually turn us all into slutty transgendered pagan communists.

Anyways.. in our society where we expect the world to educate our kids, we're not ready to move away from censorship.


Hmmm....I'm failing to follow your logic. Please explain the part in between "no censorship" and "all hell breaking loose".

Thanks.

Re:Is censorship such a bad thing? (1)

demonic-halo (652519) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321755)

I exaggerate things for comic relief.

What I want to say is free anoynomous speech has it's draw backs. We have liable and slander law suits for a reason. We have regulations that prevent companies from running false claims about their products.

I personally feel people need to take responsibility for what the publish. It influnces a lot of people.

secret handshake? (1)

spoonyfork (23307) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321591)

Not to pee in any Cheerios..

I downloaded Freenet last week and installed it on an vanilla SuSE 9 box. I let it run for 2 days on a fixed IP and I couldn't even get off my node. Obviously I did something wrong but I'll be damned if I can figure it out. No errors during install and no errors during run time. Double-checked IP and port, set up forwarding in the firewall like the dozen other ports that work just fine through it.

Is there something else going on big picture? Do I need a secret password or handshake to get let into the club?

Re:secret handshake? (1)

caluml (551744) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321615)

Do I need a secret password or handshake to get let into the club?

Yes. I can only tell it to you if you can prove you're a member though.

Re:secret handshake? (1)

spoonyfork (23307) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321653)

Yes. I can only tell it to you if you can prove you're a member though.

Cool, I'll just send the proof to you on orkut.com. What's your username there?

Re:secret handshake? (1)

caluml (551744) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321721)

Cool, I'll just send the proof to you on orkut.com. What's your username there?

Hah! I'm not falling for that old social engineering trick! I suppose you work in IT, and have restored my home area, and need my password too to check that all my files are still there?

Freedom of hate? (2, Insightful)

monstroyer (748389) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321602)

Well, I downloaded and installed this java client only to find out the Freenet is not yet searchable [sourceforge.net] . I've read several articles about the freenet over the last few years but have never figured out how to find anything of value (to me) on it.

In fact, further reading of the FAQ [sourceforge.net] states that if you don't want your node to harbor child porn, you should not run a Freenet node.

I'm all for freedom of speech but i don't support anyone who would take other's freedom away. Child porn is exploitative and robs children of their childhood. The concept of freedom of speech is only useful if it promotes freedom. For example, supporting the right of Nazi freedom of speech can only lead to the growth of a movement that wants to take your freedom away. Logistically, this makes absolutely no sense to me.

I'm uninstalling the freenet, sorry.

Well... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8321616)

I'd love to contribute but they do not have a version built for osx

Native code implementation? (3, Interesting)

ikewillis (586793) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321646)

Anyone know of a production quality native code implementation of the FreeNet protocols? I'd love to set up a FreeNet node, however all the systems I have free to dedicate to that purpose are not powerful enough and lack sufficient RAM to run the standard FreeNet Java implementation.

Re:Native code implementation? (1)

SheldonYoung (25077) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321684)

A Pentium II 350 with 256MB of RAM should be sufficient if you reduce the number of threads and/or connections. It wouldn't hurt to restart FreeNet every few days to keep things healthy, at least at this point.

Does Freenet really work? (3, Interesting)

fembots (753724) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321654)

Reading its philosophy, especially the part about "child porn, offensive content or terrorism", it sounds good. However further down in the security section, it's not real anonymity at all.

So if the government really wants to find out who posted what, it is still possible.

Can someone please enlighten me? Is Freenet a false sense of anonymity?

Privacy issue? Yeah right (-1)

Bitter Old Man (572131) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321656)

Freenet, the software that lets you pirate mass amounts of software and copyrighted digital media and not get prosecuted.

Hold on a sec... (0)

crushinghellhammer (727226) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321711)

I hadn't heard of Freenet before, so I decided to see what it was about and started reading their rather extensive FAQ.

Soon, I came across this precious gem:

What about child porn, offensive content or terrorism? While most people wish that child pornography and terrorism did not exist, humanity should not be deprived of their freedom to communicate just because of how a very small number of people might use that freedom.

WHAT???

I don't believe I'm a prude, but this is fucking crazy! "Humanity" wouldn't feel deprived when it's "freedom" to post pictures of little kids being raped is revoked.

Thanks a lot you bunch of "I'm-part-of-the-intellectual-elite-cos-I-never-ta ke -a-stand" idiots!

Do I need it? (2, Funny)

Fizzlewhiff (256410) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321737)

I already pay $34.95 a month for my internet. Why would I want to pay more money for a free one?

The real reason freenet hasn't taken off... (3, Insightful)

braddock (78796) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321738)

The version on the download page is ancient. If you read VERY CAREFULLY to the bottom of the download page then you might end up running the "upgrade.sh" script which might actually give you performance. Then after about a day of struggle you may stumble upon the "Nubile Tutorial" so that you actually know how to use Freenet.

It had always seemed that Freenet leadership is obsessively interested in getting press, yet at the same time embarrased enough by the actual system that they make it impossible for anyone but the most dedicated techies to get started using it. Considering that at startup some of the first content encountered is (quite unfortunately) child pornography collections, I wouldn't be surprised if this is almost intentional to keep the Press talking about the high ideals without seeing the current reality. Maybe it's even best for the project at this stage.

If freenet is to succeed, and we all desperately need it to, it's going to have to make itself both USABLE and RESPECTABLE. That means new potential users should not be confronted with stomach wrenching content even if such things are available by the nature of the system.

-braddock

Jesus Christ... (0, Insightful)

JoeBaldwin (727345) | more than 10 years ago | (#8321740)

Freenet will blatantly be used for child porn, and probably already is. While I'm sure there are lots of chinese people who will find value in it, there are lots of child pr0nographers rubbing their dirty little fucking hands with glee. "Oh look, something free and uncensored! Better puts some child porn on it! (uploads)."

Yeah, free speech is nice, but at the same time providing free speech to child pornographers and Nazis is both hypocritical and wrong.
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