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Microsoft Warning Leaked Code Traders

CmdrTaco posted more than 10 years ago | from the thats-a-bit-creapy dept.

Microsoft 833

An anonymous reader writes "Broadand Reports notes that Microsoft is now sending snail mail warnings to downloaders of the leaked source code. They're also apparently working in conjunction with several un-named peer to peer vendors to send out legal warnings to any users who search for the leaked code. The notice on Microsoft's website has been updated to reflect the new warnings."

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Traders or Traitors? (5, Interesting)

monstroyer (748389) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331302)

[tin_foil_hat]

I think the title should have read "MS Warns Leaked Code TRAITORS" considering that the code probably got leaked from one of their own.

From the MS Notice page:

Customers running Windows XP Service Pack 1 or Windows Server 2003 who have installed all of the latest updates are not impacted

In other words: "Dear companies running on W2K, please pay for upgrades ASAP. We would like more money. Thanks."

[/tin_foil_hat]

Re:Traders or Traitors? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8331331)

Vegan City Pride [veganworldorder.com]

If God didn't want us to eat animals why did he make them out of meat?

Re:Traders or Traitors? (-1, Offtopic)

Frizzle Fry (149026) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331393)

If God didn't want us to eat animals why did he make them out of meat?

Huh? The fact that something is made of something unhealthy that becomes downright carcinogenic when cooked and is full of diseases when not means that we are meant to eat it? This seems similar to asking "if god didn't want us to smoke cigarettes, why did he make them out of tobacco?".

Re:Traders or Traitors? (-1, Offtopic)

DarkHand (608301) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331418)

I think the original quote goes: "If God didn't want us to eat animals, then why'd he make them so delicious?" :)

Re:Traders or Traitors? (-1, Offtopic)

Planesdragon (210349) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331600)

Huh? The fact that something is made of something unhealthy that becomes downright carcinogenic when cooked and is full of diseases when not means that we are meant to eat it? This seems similar to asking "if god didn't want us to smoke cigarettes, why did he make them out of tobacco?".

How about "if God didn't want us to eat animals, then why did he make us so we can?"

Re:Traders or Traitors? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8331416)

you're gonna die sooner than us, tho...

I Dare You: +1, Patriotic (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8331569)

to post the Microsoft code as a reply to this challenge.

Thanks in advance and remember to Deport The Liars To The War Crimes Court [whitehouse.org]

Regards,
Kilgore Trout

Don't mess with MS (3, Insightful)

zeux (129034) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331311)

Don't mess with Microsoft, they have the money and the power to track you down, even on Internet and through P2P networks. And they will, this is just an example and a warning.

I will never download the source code and you should better not try too. Anyway what's the point in seeing/having it?

I think people don't really understand what having windows 2000 SP1 source code spreading on internet really means. That's quite important and even if it's only part of the source code it's already enough for the first exploits to appear.

The author was kind enough to tell us about the first one [slashdot.org] , but I bet many others did find bugs and didn't report them because they are working on viruses and attacks using them.

Let's see what happens in the coming months. I'm already working on the switch from Windows 2003 Server to Linux in my company for this exact reason.

Oh please tell us! What DOES IT MEAN? (-1, Flamebait)

FatSean (18753) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331329)

Are you all scared about more viruses 'cause bad people can see the windows code? Awwww...there-there little boy. It'll be OK.

Whacky conspiracy theories (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8331355)

Reason for the Iraq war: the Dollar [trinicenter.com]

These guys have no idea what is going on with anything.

Re:Whacky conspiracy theories (-1, Redundant)

zeux (129034) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331412)

Offtopic, dude.

Re:Don't mess with MS (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8331371)

You bore me. Please die.

Re:Don't mess with MS (-1)

arock99 (612650) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331404)

I think your jumping the gun a little too quickly about switching to Linux. The code is 4 years old and with all the security issues that have been going on I doubt many weaknesses (if any) will be found on newer versions of windows. Not unless your still using tools from 4 years ago and never run windows update. Having said that why are you using windows in the first place? :)

Re:Don't mess with MS (1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8331467)

I've heard windows 2000 is still on 20% of the computers in the world. Enough for a big mess.

Puss. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8331438)

Go hide behind the sweaty back of that blowhard Steve Ballmer, he'll protect you from those nasty, mean "code-traders".

Re:Don't mess with MS (4, Funny)

morcheeba (260908) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331458)

Don't mess with Microsoft, they have the money and the power to track you down

if this is true, then why haven't I gotten my $245 [snopes.com] from Bill yet? I forwarded that email to a zillion friends, waited two weeks, and still no check.

Re:Don't mess with MS (5, Insightful)

lambent (234167) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331462)

"Don't mess with Microsoft, they have the money and the power to track you down, even on Internet and through P2P networks. And they will, this is just an example and a warning."

I have the power to track people through P2P, too. I've found people in my apartment complex on the networks. I've even met a few friends that way. Too bad that doesn't mean that I'm a multi-billion dollar company.

Please note, it is absurdly easy to track people on the networks. It is not indicative MS power, or their legal muscle.

As for seeing & having it, one major point is that you CAN. What was once taboo is now freely available (sorta), and people are reveling in like. To draw a completely inaccurate parallel, it's like the sexual revolution of the 70s/80s in the US.

Otherwise, I agree with your post.

Bad Reasoning (4, Insightful)

Inhibit (105449) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331465)

What will happen when the Linux project servers for the version you use get breached. Or what if there are exploits that can't be fixed immediatly?

Switching off of Windows sounds great to me, as I really dislike using it, but your reasoning sounds a bit flawed. If it's because the software's buggy and prone to exploitation, great. But if it's just because some code got leaked.. and OSS software generally has all the code available all the time.. then your reasoning sounds a little flawed.

Any software will have flaws. It's inevitable. Knee jerk reactions too those flaws generally aren't a good idea though.

Re:Don't mess with MS (3, Insightful)

Erratio (570164) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331473)

Yeah, released source code is horrible for security. Look at OpenBSD, all those servers just waiting to get hacked in to. Maybe now Microsoft will actually have to, I don't know...eliminate exploits instead of waiting for them to appear, then fixing them after it's too late (if it isn't already).

Re:Don't mess with MS (1)

jonfromspace (179394) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331492)

think people don't really understand what having windows 2000 SP1 source code spreading on internet really means. That's quite important and even if it's only part of the source code it's already enough for the first exploits to appear.


First exploits? Have you been living under a rock?

Re:Don't mess with MS (4, Funny)

KrispyKringle (672903) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331505)

See, the real reason MS doesn't want the code spreading is because they are embarassed at the frequency the word ``fuck'', ``shit'', and ``BUGBUG'' occurs in code comments (13, 577, and 7462 times, a little bird told me).

That, and the whole stolen-intelllectual-property thing.

That said, while they are certainly within their rights, it seems to me like the cat's outta the bag. They won't be able to stop the real malicious types, the virus writers and pirates, so they may as well save their time. For that matter, they'd released enough source to governments and researchers that it was bound to happen sooner or later.

In Redmond, Washington (-1)

paranode (671698) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331514)

source code downloads YOU!

Re:Don't mess with MS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8331530)

If enforcement of copyright laws are half as bad as you claim, I'd be on Death Row right now.

Re:Don't mess with MS (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8331580)

I'm already working on the switch from Windows 2003 Server to Linux in my company for this exact reason.

It took leaked source code to make you switch? Man, hackers and spammers have been taking advantage of exploits in Winndows for years without the source code! If that wasn't enough to convince you, why switch now?

Yes, but will it run on (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8331313)

Re:Yes, but will it run on (1)

steelerguy (172075) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331410)

or you can just go right to the source:

http://www.newisys.com/products/2100.html

news for turdz (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8331318)

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Eventually, everyone adapted to the new state of affairs and began inhaling other things. Almost everyone, that is. But not you! According to my records, you still inhale paste! You moron, you idiot, you imbecile, you gay nigger!

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You moron, you idiot, you imbecile, you gay nigger!

kazaa, bittorrent, emule/edonkey? (4, Insightful)

frenetic3 (166950) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331326)

is kazaa one of the vendors? is there anything they can do about emule [sf.net] or edonkey [edonkey.com] users?

the latter seem to traffic especially in things like leaked source RARs, and since most of the central servers are overseas and operated independently (and 'overnet' seems truly peer to peer with no central servers), it would be tough to crack down on them, besides having a bunch of fake clients that harvest IPs. anyone know if they do this?

(i imagine the same concept would apply for bittorrent [bitconjurer.org] downloaders -- except BT relies on central tracking servers which would be comparatively easy to shut down.)

seems like a natural, uh, application, for the freenet project ;) [sourceforge.net]

ah well. it's kinda scary that even the largest/richest software co in the world can't stop the spread of their IP, and that it takes only one person.

-fren

Re:kazaa, bittorrent, emule/edonkey? (3, Funny)

TrollBridge (550878) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331415)

"seems like a natural, uh, application, for the freenet project ;)"i>

Nothing like being moderated up for encouraging people to break the law.

Re:kazaa, bittorrent, emule/edonkey? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8331593)

Nothing like being moderated up for encouraging people to break the law.

Nothing like being moderated up for just being a little fuckface. Are you really so naive as to believe that the main use of P2P is helping 'chinese dissidents'? Who the fuck cares about dissidents, gimme the kiddie porn and the win2k source code, baby!!

Re:kazaa, bittorrent, emule/edonkey? (5, Interesting)

W2k (540424) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331425)

ah well. it's kinda scary that even the largest/richest software co in the world can't stop the spread of their IP, and that it takes only one person.

Not scary at all. I'd say it is a good thing that not even one of the most powerful forces on this planet can stop information from spreading across the web. Information wants to be free, remember?

Re:kazaa, bittorrent, emule/edonkey? (2, Insightful)

pantycrickets (694774) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331544)

(i imagine the same concept would apply for bittorrent [bitconjurer.org] downloaders -- except BT relies on central tracking servers which would be comparatively easy to shut down.)

Which is what they seem to have done. I got it off of torrent, but now all the links seem dead.

It's interesting.. they were playing it down so much when it was announced, but then I guess reality struck. "Professional" analysts were saying it would have no impact on security, and less than a week later already an exploit was released based on the source. Albeit a pretty worthless exploit (IE5), but still. The point is.. if you read through the source, you'll see how much stuff was ripped from much earlier stuff (NT, IE3, etc).. so it's safe to assume that much of XP is based on that source. Much of their programming/security methodologies remain unchanged I'm sure.

Best threat of all (5, Funny)

AvantLegion (595806) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331333)

You download it, you gotta run it!

Can't take it back (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8331335)

Once its leaked on the Internet, you can't take it back. People WILL take a peek at it. If Microsoft really needs to be convinced, they should talk to Pam and Tommy :)

Re:Can't take it back (5, Funny)

bstil (652204) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331443)

and paris hilton

I can see the letter now (5, Funny)

glen604 (750214) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331341)

Dear Sir, Please, please, please don't look for more exploits in our code! We've got enough already to keep us busy for the next decade or so. Signed, Your pals at Microsoft.

MS Snail Mail (5, Funny)

Erratio (570164) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331342)

Probably a package that weighs 5 pounds, doesn't open right, has about 2 sentences of actual use, and then crubmles while being read.

Re:MS Snail Mail (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8331495)

don't forget the license on the inside that tells you what terms you agreed to when you opened it.

Re:MS Snail Mail (1)

Erratio (570164) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331551)

Which includes the fact that you can no longer open mail from anyone else or send mail without it first passing through MS's hands.

UseNet (1, Redundant)

core plexus (599119) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331345)

So? If it has not yet been posted to UseNet and other channels, it will be shortly. The Cat's Out The Bag, so to speak.

-cp-

President Bush to Liberate Alaska [alaska-freegold.com]

silly question (4, Insightful)

deadmongrel (621467) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331346)

how are they able to know who's downloading the files from p2p network?
is that you big bro?

Re:silly question (1)

__past__ (542467) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331545)

There is no privacy in todays internet. Even networks designed to protect privacy like freenet might miss something, making all you activities visible to everyone who cares enough, and normal P2P networks do not even bother. It is just not the way networking, and TCP/IP in particular, works

The internet is a public place. Act accordingly.

Re:silly question (4, Informative)

GerritHoll (70088) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331554)

Most p2p network have search facilities. The search is done on a server, and the server is able to (and probably already does) log who searches for what. A server hosting a torrent can do the same, but since those are more often volunteers themselves, they probably won't.

Now that the source code is leaked, MS will probably get a lot safer, with all those hackers and crackers exploiting their bugs and thus revealing them ;-)

Getting up to 4.9 stable with CVSup (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8331349)

===> gnu/lib/libstdc++
c++ -O -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++ -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libs tdc++/include -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libs tdc++/../libio -I. -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libs tdc++/stl -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libs tdc++ -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libs tdc++/../gcc/cp/inc -I. -nostdinc++ -fno-implicit-templates /usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libstd c++/valarray.cc -o /usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libstd c++/valarray
/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec/el f/ld: cannot open crt1.o: No such file or directory*** Error code 1

Any ideas?

In other news.. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8331351)

Microsoft has got a document signed by congress to allow them to inspect the source code of all operating systems and software to ensure thier private IP is not being violated. The first companys named for inspection are google, sony playstation and Mac OS X.

I used to work for Mac OS X (3, Funny)

Aqua OS X (458522) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331566)

The first companys named for inspection are google, sony playstation and Mac OS X.

I used to work for MacOSX, but they fired me. Now I work for Playstation.

Leaked on Purpose? (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8331358)

Well, now that Win 2K is not "SAFE" anymore, please get ready to shell out money for Longhorn...

Re:Leaked on Purpose? (4, Funny)

lpangelrob2 (721920) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331576)

CTO: 2k isn't safe anymore... you set aside funding for Longhorn, right?
CFO: Yeah, we put $100,000 in 10-year T-bonds yesterday...

does anyone think they'll find the source? (2, Funny)

junkymailbox (731309) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331362)

but does anyone think MS will find the source that leaked the source?

(pun intended)

Yes I do... (1)

Mr. Underbridge (666784) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331436)

but does anyone think MS will find the source that leaked the source?

Yep, the same way OJ looked for the "real killer": a mirror. Yeah, Bill, I'm talking to you!

Hmmm (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8331363)

Is the warning something like: "You need at least an eight way machine to compile it." ?

Why did they wait... (1)

jwthompson2 (749521) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331373)

Why did they wait so long to let people know in a public way that this was !DUH! illegal? Were they waiting for people to download the source and then go RIAA-style on them?

Warnings? (5, Interesting)

Xeed (308294) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331377)

I thought the thing to do nowadays was to sue the pants off downloaders. Is M$ trying to play good guy warning downloaders rather than suing them?

Re:Warnings? (1)

Darken_Everseek (681296) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331567)

Nah; just slightly-less-bad guys. Warn, then sue. Besides, this'll qualify as an attempt to mitigate damages, and will reduce the average person's sympathy. Ignorance won't be an excuse.

Way to go morons. (1)

mikeophile (647318) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331394)

The Microsoft legal goons have just insured that the source code will be on everywhere you look.

Oh wait, it already is.

THAT IS PERFECT. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8331399)

They're also apparently working in conjunction with several un-named peer to peer vendors to send out legal warnings to any users who search for the leaked code.

Oh my God, that's great.

Anyone want to suddenly start hopping on kazaa and posting spoofed search requests for "leaked windows 2000 code" which appear to be coming from the IP addresses of the White House, the Dennis Hastert re-election campaign, various randomly selected people, entire blocks inside of Time-Warner...

It could be like a p2p reverse honeypot.

Once a few thousand people start getting threatening legal notices from MS for something they didn't do, what happens next?

Nothing like security through lawyers. (5, Insightful)

junkymailbox (731309) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331400)

This has got to work even better than security through obscurity.

How did it leak? (2, Interesting)

Zo0ok (209803) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331406)

Subsequent investigation has shown this was not the result of any breach of Microsoft's corporate network or internal security, nor is it related to Microsoft's Shared Source Initiative or its Government Security Program

How did it leak?

Re:How did it leak? (2, Funny)

DR SoB (749180) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331481)

They donated an old computer to Goodwill and some lucky techy picked it up.. Next time they should learn would FDISK.EXE does..

Seriously, who says it was a "leak", I think the on-going conspiracy theory is that it was intentional distributed.

[Don't trust everything you read.. Unless it's on /.]

Re:How did it leak? (2, Informative)

Ymiris (733964) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331500)

Through an affiliate of Microsoft, that had it on a linux box non the less.

Re:How did it leak? (1)

TheoMurpse (729043) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331506)

one of their pipes rusted and the code gushed out into the underground

Re:How did it leak? (1)

Bai jie (653604) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331582)

The leak probably came from a bug in the code itself.

Freenet (3, Insightful)

agentZ (210674) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331407)

Now do you understand why we need Freenet [slashdot.org] ?

Re:Freenet (1, Troll)

dakryx (646923) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331487)

To infringe on others IP? right...

Re:Freenet (5, Insightful)

TrollBridge (550878) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331512)

Ahh yes, for all those LEGITIMATE uses for P2P networks, such as distributing MP3's and leaked source code, right?

And Slashdotters STILL don't understand why so many people and companies perceive that most traffic on P2P networks involves either porn, infringed music/movies/software.

Suggestions like in the parent post do no favors for establishing legitimacy for P2P netowrks.

Wait. (5, Funny)

Omni Magnus (645067) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331417)

Does this mean that Windows is open source. Is it cool to use Windows yet?

Re:Wait. (0, Offtopic)

rafael_es_son (669255) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331605)

LOL

I used to have the compiled code (5, Funny)

wardomon (213812) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331419)

But it was kinda buggy.

oops! (2, Funny)

3Cats (113616) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331421)

...Microsoft source code is both copyrighted and protected as a trade secret. ..Well, their half-right now! :-D

Good move for Microsoft (0, Troll)

drewzhrodague (606182) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331423)

So, I figure that it's in Microsoft's best interests to release the source-code, and claim that it's "leaked". The idea, is that this will offload some of the work from their QA department, as they can do a google search for "leaked microsoft source code", and see reviews, comments, and potential fixes.

Location Based Wi-Fi [wifimaps.com]

One more reason... (0)

Open $ource Advocate (754298) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331426)

This is just one more reason why Microsoft needs to open up the source for Windows. After all, what is it afraid of? There's nothing in there so secret that it needs protecting. I'm sure anything sensitive has already been patented anyway.

The real reason Microsoft wants to keep the source closed is because of all their shoddy programming! As we've already seen, this has opened up a whole can of security worms. Has anyone noticed the increase in new viruses lately?

I'm skeptical (5, Interesting)

Doesn't_Comment_Code (692510) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331431)

While it may be illegal to steal source code that is privately held. I don't know that it is illegal to view it once it has been released. Perhaps someone has a more educated viewpoint. But this seems like a scare tactic without much legal standing.

Re:I'm skeptical (1)

Fizzog (600837) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331510)

Ditto.

I know MS thinks of themselves as 'The Law', but just when were they given the right to decide what is legal and what isn't?

Re:I'm skeptical (1)

oO Peeping Tom Oo (750505) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331553)

Perhaps, but what if a developer working for a rival company looks at it? Is that any different?

now it makes sense (5, Funny)

maxbang (598632) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331445)

I was wondering why when I tried compiling it, it stopped halfway through and I heard Madonna's voice scream, "What the fuck do you think you're doing?"

Why waste their time? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8331451)

Why should they even bother. If they can identify the people to send them mail, then those people are not smart enough to do any harm. The smart/dangerous ones will get the code anonymously. And they wouldn't be afraid of Microsoft 'getting' them.

the can is open... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8331452)

worms are everywhere...

MS warnings in the mail (5, Funny)

jonfromspace (179394) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331455)

Dear Peer-to-Peer user,

Please do not download our source code or we will be forced to sue you. We are not kidding, we will sue you. Seriously, we'll sue...

Sincerly,

Bill Gates

Reply
Dear Bill.

Please stop poluting the internet with your crappy source. Every time I search for porn now, I get coppies of some crappy pile of shit called winedows or something. Furthermore, don't even talk to me about frivilous litigation bub. I wrote that book.

Besides, your source leak is stealing my valuable press. How am I supposed to dump my stock if I can't pump it first.

P.S. Thanks for the license fees.

Yours in infamy,

Darl.

Public patches? (2, Interesting)

luckytroll (68214) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331457)

Now that the source is out there, I wonder how long it will take for anonymous hackers to start submitting fixes to M$ for problems in the code that havent been detected yet. How long until independent
patches are available to make it more secure from Big Brother, and more stable.

Is this the beginning of the Kazaa-Lite-ing of windows?

For those sharing the source... (5, Interesting)

Lovepump (58591) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331460)

... or just using the P2P networks, PeerGuardian can help. I reject about 250 requests per day on the Emule network from tracking companies. Here's about 40 minutes worth:

Connection Rejected: 12.222.39.72 - Communications Resources PGIPDB (02-19-2004 @ 17:49:19)
Connection Rejected: 12.222.39.72 - Communications Resources PGIPDB (02-19-2004 @ 17:50:00)
Connection Rejected: 12.222.39.72 - Communications Resources PGIPDB (02-19-2004 @ 17:50:42)
Connection Rejected: 12.222.39.72 - Communications Resources PGIPDB (02-19-2004 @ 17:56:11)
Connection Rejected: 12.222.39.72 - Communications Resources PGIPDB (02-19-2004 @ 17:56:55)
Connection Rejected: 12.222.39.72 - Communications Resources PGIPDB (02-19-2004 @ 17:57:37)
Connection Rejected: 12.222.39.72 - Communications Resources PGIPDB (02-19-2004 @ 17:59:00)
Connection Rejected: 12.222.39.72 - Communications Resources PGIPDB (02-19-2004 @ 17:59:44)
Connection Rejected: 12.222.39.72 - Communications Resources PGIPDB (02-19-2004 @ 18:00:26)
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You can get it from Methlabs.org. Windows only as far as I know.

per requirement to muddy the waters, spread FUD (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8331466)

From the M$ web site: "Microsoft source code is both copyrighted and protected as a trade secret."

Got that one half right:

1) yup it's copyrighted and you can't have the code.
(so far so good)

2) there are no legal protections for "trade secrets" --- it means nothing that the "trade secrets" were leaked other than it's a violation of 1)

ms warning (5, Funny)

theMerovingian (722983) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331469)


I must have found one of these warnings - when I downloaded "Windows_source_code.zip", all it contained was a .wav file of Bill Gates cussing at me.

Reading copyrighted at Barnes and Noble - ILLEGAL? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8331475)

Hmmm.. I goto Barnes and Noble, browse a COPYRIGHTED book and read a chapter. Does it mean that I am doing something ILLEGAL, by reading something that I haven't bought?

So, like, WHY is this bad? (1)

dacarr (562277) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331482)

Doesn't MS realize that with this code out on the net it allows for it to be debugged?

Re:So, like, WHY is this bad? (1)

cant_get_a_good_nick (172131) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331585)

Don't you realize trying to fix all the bugs in MS code will reduce people's productivity to all time lows?

A warning which is also a record (3, Insightful)

fembots (753724) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331486)

Seeing that MS is sending out warning to those downloaders, it already knew who they are, thus it could be just a warning to those downloaders that if any exploits were out, they will be the first to be investigated.

Proprietary Sucks (1)

dakan (746916) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331497)

Proprietary software only hides bug so I think microsoft is having a favor done by having the source code leaked. I mean it just forces them to fix all the bugs and security holes that people are going to find because of it. And noting microsoft's previous performance they should be paying people to find these bugs rather than bring up lawsuits. Proprietary software is just that proprietary which means while they're the only ones working on it they're also the only one NOT fixing bugs in it.

exploit is a known issue? (3, Informative)

Fishstick (150821) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331501)

On Monday, February 16, Microsoft began investigating a reported exploit on versions of Internet Explorer allegedly discovered by an individual studying the leaked source code. This exploit is a known issue that Microsoft had discovered internally and addressed with the latest release of Internet Explorer -- Internet Explorer 6.0 Service Pack 1.

Um, don't usually like to argue semantics, but what was discovered was a security vulnerability (bug) in the code, not an "exploit".

Devising and revealing a method to take advantage of this problem (a virus, worm, bitmap) is an "exploit", right?

Makes the RIAA seem tame (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8331503)

Trying to track down people who simply search for the code without necessarily downloading it? Next week's /. take on this story will be "Bill Gates Hires Genovese Mafioso to break 1 bone per meg of source code downloaded".

I think MS is more pissed that exploits that would have eventually been located somewhere down the pike will come to fruition much earlier, giving Microsoft 10 bad security flaw discoveries a month instead of their usual 2-3.

Big Deal (1, Troll)

mehaiku (754091) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331520)

So download from Freenet.

OOOOohh its illegal thus it has to be good shit (0, Redundant)

McNihil (612243) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331532)

Grow up MS we don't want your tripe.

They can sue me for WHAT? (2, Funny)

de_boer_man (459797) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331549)

To sum up the article:

Microsoft can now sue you for...

...taking a leak!

<rimshot/>

PR Boom (2, Interesting)

Eberlin (570874) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331555)

No, not the Doom II port. I'm assuming this follows along the lines of a Microsoft PR implementation. It can't be seen sitting idly as the code gets swapped around. The 250K bounty trick has already been done, and the RIAA seems to be doing well on the "threaten/sue fileswappers" thing so why not jump in?

We've already come to the agreement that this code shouldn't be seen by anyone who is currently contributing or even could possibly in the future contribute to OSS.

The only thing MS stands to lose here is an influx of possible exploits caused by bad code. It's not the full source so it's not like it'll compile to something useful (i.e. piracy).

Maybe they SHOULD go after these folks...but as BGates said recently, hackers are good for MS software because hackers test/break systems, thus making MS improve. Which PR spin will win this one out?

The Leak Source (5, Funny)

ZHaDoom (65485) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331562)

For those of you still looking for the leaked source code here it is:

#include "windows.h"
#include "system_errors.h"
#include "stdlib.h"
#include "msdos_bugs.h"

char make_prog_look_big[1600000];

main()
{
if (detect_OS2())
freeze();

if (detect_cache())
disable_cache();

if (fast_cpu())
set_wait_states(lots);

set_mouse(speed, very_slow);
set_mouse(action, jumpy);
set_mouse(reaction, sometimes);
set_icons(UGLY);

print("Welcome to Windoze 3.11111");

if (system_ok())
crash(to_dos_prompt);
else
system_memory = open("a:\swp0001.swp", O_CREATE);

while(1) {
sleep(5);
get_user_input();
sleep(5);
act_on_user_input();
sleep(5);
if (rand() < 0.9)
crash(complete_system);
}
return(unrecoverable_system);
}

someone should post some leaked code (1)

donnyspi (701349) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331563)

I dare ya!

I don't get it! (5, Funny)

kyshtock (608605) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331579)

Subsequent investigation has shown this was not the result of any breach of Microsoft's corporate network or internal security, nor is it related to Microsoft's Shared Source Initiative or its Government Security Program, which enable our customers and partners, as well as governments, to legally access Microsoft source code. Microsoft reaffirms its support for both the Shared Source Initiative and the Government Security Program.

I just don't get it. No security breach. Not related to the SSI, nor GSP. Then how did it leak???? Psychics?

Someone got kicked off their ISP... (4, Funny)

boris_the_hacker (125310) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331587)

... because they put up an archive called "kernel-source-2.6.3.tar.bz2"

No one actually checked what it contained but blindly assumed it was windows. Heh. Funny world.

Q: How do they know the snail addy of web users? (5, Funny)

sootman (158191) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331596)

A: Why oh why did I register with Insta-Trace?!?

$100 for forwarding this email... (5, Funny)

cthulhubob (161144) | more than 10 years ago | (#8331607)

Holy crap, Microsoft can find your physical mailing address if you download their source code...

Does that mean those people I laughed at in high school for circulating that thing about Bill Gates sending you $100 for forwarding this email were RIGHT?!

Damn, now I wish I'd been stupid enough to send that thing on - I could use an extra hundred bucks.
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