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Rockstar Announces GTA San Andreas

simoniker posted more than 10 years ago | from the xbox-owners-crying-into-cereal-bowl dept.

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Tickenest writes "According to a Yahoo-reprinted press-release, Rockstar Games has officially announced Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, the latest in the GTA series. The press release continues: 'Developed by world-class designers Rockstar North, Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas will be available exclusively for the PlayStation(R)2 computer entertainment system and is expected to be in stores in North America on October 19, 2004 and in Europe on October 22, 2004.'" This confirms earlier rumors of (initial?) PS2 exclusivity and possible name for this much-awaited game.

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I can't wait for GTA: Boise (3, Interesting)

sweeney37 (325921) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430672)

Is this is going to be something new or just the GTA engine with some minimal improvements and a new locale? My guess is that it's the later, from what I remember GTA 4 was supposed to be an all-together new game.

Mike

Re:I can't wait for GTA: Boise (5, Informative)

MaxQuordlepleen (236397) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430705)

If you download your free copy of GTA 1 from the Rockstar web site ( here [rockstargames.com] ) , you'll find that "Liberty City", "Vice City" and "San Andreas" are the names of the three playable cities from that game.

Re:I can't wait for GTA: Boise (5, Interesting)

Solosoft (622322) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430953)

It makes sense

GTA = Liberty City , Vice City , San-Andreas
GTA3 = Liberty City , Vice City , San-Andreas
GTA4 = GTA London Maps , GTA 2 Maps ???
Maybe ?

Re:I can't wait for GTA: Boise (5, Insightful)

dave420 (699308) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430773)

You're talking as if GTA4 was a bad game... it's clearly one of their most successful games ever, and the series has one of the largest followings around.

I think we'd be lucky if it was the GTA engine with minimal improvements in a new locale :) we'd be guaranteed a great game.

Re:I can't wait for GTA: Boise (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8430936)

What? GTA4 is out? How did I manage to miss THAT?

Re:I can't wait for GTA: Boise (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8430799)

They've already announced many of the new features. In addition to killing and raping hookers, you'll be able to rape and kill children. Also, there are weapons now that are more or less effective against different races - for example, you may have an uzi that works well against blacks but not Haitians, and a shot gun that is the inverse. There will be downloadable content but only if you kill enough cops.

Re:I can't wait for GTA: Boise (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8430830)

Because murder (in 50% of all video games) is ok, but rape isn't?

Re:I can't wait for GTA: Boise (1)

leifm (641850) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430881)

I'd guess you're right, although maybe this one will be a bit more of an update to the engine than GTA3 to GTA:VC was, since they've had 2 years between releases this time. Regardless I'd expect it to have the low technical standards that the rest of Rockstar's stuff has

Re:I can't wait for GTA: Boise (5, Informative)

drunkentiger (556459) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430913)

My guess is that it's the later, from what I remember GTA 4 was supposed to be an all-together new game.

Yes, rumors are that the real sequel to GTA3 (e.g. not just an "expansion pack" like vice city/san andreas) will be developed for next-gen consoles (xbox2, ps3). Always remember to take your grain of salt.

Re:I can't wait for GTA: Boise (5, Insightful)

zero-one (79216) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430933)

"The same GTA engine [...] with a new locale" isn't necessarily a bad thing. Both the games based on the GTA 3 engine have been very playable.

If they have got a game engine that does what they need, there is no need to re-write it for every version. Not many film reviews say "same old camera, different plot".

I was going to suggest that maybe game engines have evolved to the point where most of the effort of making a game can go into the content rather than the technology. Then I thought about all the LucasArts games based on similar SCUMM engines.

Perhaps the rule of thumb is that games need to have a certain amount of "newness" but it doesn't really matter if it comes from the technology or the content.

Bush Lauds Aristide's Exit: +1, Patriotic (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8430978)


Perhaps, the Fake President [whitehouse.org] can follow his advice to Aristide and
exit the United States of Amerika, in the interests of democracy, to perphaps, Rawanda, where he can broadcast more F.U.D. [whitehouse.org]

Cheers,
Kilgore

Too bad... (5, Troll)

dfj225 (587560) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430682)

I was looking forward to the xbox edition.

Re:Too bad... (1, Insightful)

healy (234314) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430749)

Why the hell is this moderated as a Troll? I happen to own both PS2 & Xbox versions of the gta games. I was looking forward to an Xbox edition as well.

Re:Too bad... (1)

PainKilleR-CE (597083) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430837)

I traded in my PS2 versions when I bought the XBox versions. Personally, I'd like to see this one released on the XBox as well, but I realize that due to Rockstar's pre-existing agreement with Sony it's unlikely that it will happen until quite some time after the game's initial release.

Re:Too bad... (5, Informative)

drunkentiger (556459) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430977)

due to Rockstar's pre-existing agreement with Sony it's unlikely that it will happen until quite some time after the game's initial release

Well, you may not have to wait too long. The exclusivity deal with Sony ends this year [gamespot.com] . So you could see an xbox version as early as Jan 1, 2005, just a few months after the ps2 release.

Re:Too bad... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8431016)

"I traded in my PS2 versions when I bought the XBox versions."

Dumbshit.

Let me guess...cause you read on Usenet that "teh xbox is most powerful"

Re:Too bad... (2, Interesting)

leifm (641850) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430962)

If XBOX 2 is released in '05 I wonder if the XBOX version of this would be for XBOX or XBOX 2...

GTA CAUSES SCHOOL SHOOTINGS (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8430685)

Be ashamed of yourself, Slashdot, for supporting these murderers.

Awesome! (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8430691)

I want to be in an earthquake doing 160 along the fault line! Sweet!

=P Seriously it would be awesome to have an earthquake in a game, I don't think any other GTA-style game has done something like that (i.e. disaster scenarios).

Re:Awesome! (0, Troll)

dotwaffle (610149) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430731)

Errr. Sim City 2000, 3000...

Re:Awesome! (5, Funny)

EnderWiggnz (39214) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430785)

yeh, i an remember beating a hooker to death with my SimBaseballBat...

Re:Awesome! (1)

Stuwee (739059) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430845)

The original SimCity had earthquakes if I recall correctly. Now once GTA gets fires, airplane crashes, tornadoes and godzilla terrorizing the streets I can finally ditch my Amiga!

Re:Awesome! (2, Funny)

soft_guy (534437) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430782)

Zork III had an earthquake.

Yeah, its not exactly what you mean by "GTA style", but I still love it.

Re:Awesome! (5, Funny)

dswartze (737703) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430826)

I would be willing to put money on the idea that in the beginning of the game that the bridges to the other parts of the city will have taken earthquake damage.

Re:Awesome! (4, Interesting)

nharmon (97591) | more than 10 years ago | (#8431057)

I really do not like how you have to play missions to open up parts of the city. This doesn't seem right.

Perhaps they could open the parts up after so much play time.

However, if they really want to the changing dynamic of landscape to match the dynamic of the story, they should change the landscape.

For example, I think it would be killer if part of the city suffered an earth quake and turned into a Terminator2-like chaotic warzone. Missions in those parts would be AWESOME.

Earthquakes in games. (4, Informative)

lightspawn (155347) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430900)

Seriously it would be awesome to have an earthquake in a game, I don't think any other GTA-style game has done something like that (i.e. disaster scenarios).

One of the objectives in Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3's LA level is "start the earthquake" [planettonyhawk.com] . Later on the same level you have to deal with a car teetering over the top of the broken freeway.

The PS2 title Disaster Report [justadventure.com] places you in an earthquake ravaged city.

Quake, on the other hand, doesn't seem to be earthquake related.

Re:Awesome! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8430941)

I seem to remember Duke Nukem having an earthquake in one of the canyon levels - it's the only earthquake in a 3D game I can think of.

Not much happened though, the screen shook, a crunching sound played and big polygons appeared where there were no big polygons before...

How about... (4, Funny)

phorm (591458) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430955)

Being able to set off some explosives etc along the fault-line and CAUSE an earthquake. Not sure if it would fly in the anti-terrorist US, but it would somewhat fit in with the GTA theme of mayhem and mass-destruction.

Bad Pun Alert! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8430961)

I think this was a bad idea.

It will be all too easy to find fault with this game ;)

Ow! I told you, it was a bad pun! Bad, I tell you! Bad!

exclusivity (4, Interesting)

Neophytus (642863) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430693)

Is this console exclusivity or won't it be reaching the PC at all. They've been vauge in the past and having just released 3 & 4 for the xbox I expect that cash will speak the loudest words.

Re:exclusivity (5, Informative)

PainKilleR-CE (597083) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430795)

Is this console exclusivity or won't it be reaching the PC at all.

If any previous game with PS2 exclusivity (including Rockstar's games) is any indicator, this announcement has no impact on any possible PC release. That being said, it's doubtful it will be released for the PC for a while.

They've been vauge in the past and having just released 3 & 4 for the xbox I expect that cash will speak the loudest words

Just a note, GTA:Vice City isn't GTA4, and neither is San Andreas. VC and SA are simply continuations of GTA3 (given that Liberty City, Vice City, and San Andreas are the playable areas in GTA, and that Rockstar was very explicit about this before and during the launch of Vice City). GTA4 has been hovering around for quite some time, but it doesn't really appear that they've done much on that, given the amount of work they've put into the GTA3 titles.

Re:exclusivity (1)

dave420 (699308) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430803)

Well, seeing as 1, 2, 3 and 4 are all out on the PC, I'm pretty sure 5 will be, too. They do, however, stagger the releases (GTA3/PC was released over 6 months after its PS/2 counterpart), which technically makes it 'exclusive' for consoles for a few months, at least :)

Re:exclusivity (3, Redundant)

nharmon (97591) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430818)

GTA: Vice City was released "exclusively for the console", although we see now that it is on PC.

You will not see GTA:SA for the PC until probably early 2006.

I'm glad to see they aren't waiting for the next Playstation, which means the PS2 I bought in order to play Vice City will also work with San Andreas!

I, for one, welcome our new GTA overlords.

2006? (0, Redundant)

WIAKywbfatw (307557) | more than 10 years ago | (#8431009)

Great I can pick it up at the same time as my pre-ordered copy of Duke Nukem Forever!

San Andreas? (5, Funny)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430701)

San Andreas? Where'd they get that name? How about Grand Theft Bicycle: Vatican

Re:San Andreas? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8430751)

I think this will describe the areas of California that you'll be able to drive-by and debauch in. The San Andreas area covers quite a bit of territory, not to mention several major cities and landmarks of interest.

Re:San Andreas? (2, Informative)

mlnelson (58842) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430757)

Comes from the original GTA, which had three cities: San Andreas, Liberty City, and Vice City. See a trend here?

Re:San Andreas? (5, Funny)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430895)

Comes from the original GTA, which had three cities: San Andreas, Liberty City, and Vice City. See a trend here?

Ah, so the names probably go like:

San Andreas==Los Angeles

Liberty City==Philadelphia

Vice City==New York City

They oughta try some variations on the GTA idea:

Grand Theft Pickup Truck: Dallas

Grand Theft Tractor: Des Moines

Grand Theft Segway: Cleveland

Grand Theft Pinto: Detroit

Grand Theft SUV: San Jose

Grand Theft Burro: Guadalajara

Grand Theft Moose: Chilliwac

Grand Theft Tricycle: Neverland Ranch

Re:San Andreas? (-1)

Elwood P Dowd (16933) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430916)

C'mon.

Liberty City = New York City
Vice City = Las Vegas
San Andreas = San Francisco

Re:San Andreas? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8430984)

Almost.


Vice City = Miami

Re:San Andreas? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8430942)

You've never actually seen these games (or the real cities), have you?

Liberty City is like New York. Get it? Statue of Liberty?

Vice City is like Miami. Get it? Miami Vice?

San Andreas is like LA. Get it? The fault?

Re:San Andreas? (1)

dotwaffle (610149) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430759)

I would rather play Grand Theft Bicycle: Cambridge, or even better... Grand Theft B52: Vietnam!

Re:San Andreas? (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 10 years ago | (#8431051)

Grand Theft B52: Vietnam!

In the retro theme...

Grand Theft Rickshaw: Shanghai

Grand Theft Trabant: East Germany

Re:San Andreas? (2, Funny)

DomCurtis187 (718788) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430787)

Grand Theft Bicycle: Vatican

Wouldn't that be Grand Theft Pope-Mobile?!

Re:San Andreas? (5, Funny)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430932)

Grand Theft Bicycle: Vatican

Wouldn't that be Grand Theft Pope-Mobile?!

"I can see the suspect clearly, but I can't get a good shot at him!"

No word on the time setting? (5, Interesting)

jeblucas (560748) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430713)

That's the real key. GTA:Vice City locked up a lot of the decent 80's tunes. Is this one going for a Starsky & Hutch 70's groove, or a 90's grungy/glam sound?

Oh yeah, I hope the game is fun too.

Re:No word on the time setting? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8430767)

Jeb, for the last time . . . shut the fuck up.

Re:No word on the time setting? (5, Insightful)

Quill (238781) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430823)

I have to say, the 80's setting + the real music (which was the only way to make the setting convincing) in Vice City is what made the game for me. The press like to look at GTA as a stupid, ultra-violent shooter - but it's one of the most well put together and balanced game I've played. The production standards at Rockstar are through the roof.

Tools needed (4, Interesting)

IamGarageGuy 2 (687655) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430714)

Do they make tools for building your own world yet? It would be fun to cruise around your hometown a la Doom.

Re:Tools needed (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8431023)

Maybe if it was a PC game :(

Renderware platform. (5, Interesting)

kyz (225372) | more than 10 years ago | (#8431064)

The game is mostly a huge bunch of data on top of Renderware Platform. The difficulting in creating the game is the huge amount of artwork required. Unlike a racing game or DOOM, you need to fill an entire city where every building needs all four sides and the roof defined, plus needs a multitude of models so it looks good both close up and at a distance.

Ride that horse till it's dead! (-1, Troll)

wedding (618458) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430716)

Nothing like an entertainment company taking a viable product in beating it into the ground so that no one gives a rip anymore.
Way to go, marketing hacks!

Re:Ride that horse till it's dead! (1)

wankledot (712148) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430838)

Have you played these games? They get better every time. Vice city added lots of awesome new stuff (motorcycles!) and kept it very interesting. I have no doubt that this will be an excellent sequel, Rockstar has given us almost no reason to doubt them.

GTA3 and VC are two of the few games that I can pick up after playing for 100+ hours and still enjoy, I say bring on the sequels!

Re:Ride that horse till it's dead! (1)

leifm (641850) | more than 10 years ago | (#8431066)

Rockstar has given us almost no reason to doubt them.

Manhunt

I don't like the GTA games, but that's personal taste I guess. Manhunt on the other hand is hard to defend. It's overly violent for no reason, and boring as hell to play on top of that. Rockstar is also responsible for SOE, though I think that was a different studio...

Re:Ride that horse till it's dead! (1)

Politburo (640618) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430869)

Ha. Considering GTA1 is many years old, and also had a 'time warped' expansion (London in the 1960s), it looks like they've already taken "a viable product [and] beat it into the ground so that no one gives a rip anymore." And it still made a boat of money. Interesting indeed.

Re:Ride that horse till it's dead! (4, Funny)

phriedom (561200) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430896)

I was going to moderate this, but I couldn't find -1 bitter.

Re:Ride that horse till it's dead! (3, Insightful)

dasmegabyte (267018) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430946)

Uh, people loved both GTA 3 and GTA: Vice City because there were constant improvements. Each had its own story, its own gameplay enhancements and above all, both were fun.

In fact, many many video game sequels are of superior quality to the original, and hence they sell very well.

Call it beating a dead horse if you like, but if horse beating is what people want, you'd be crazy not to do it, marketing or no.

PARENT IS TROLL (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8431015)

obviously has never played or even read about the games.

San Andreas (5, Funny)

SabrStryk (323739) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430718)

San Andreas sounds rather based on L.A....

"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy in all the galaxy...."

I.E., a perfect setting!

Re:San Andreas (5, Funny)

product byproduct (628318) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430839)

That would be:

Grand Theft Speeder: Mos Esley

Re:San Andreas (5, Interesting)

Belgand (14099) | more than 10 years ago | (#8431019)

Personally I'm hoping for more of a San Francisco setting myself. Maybe it's just been far too many cop shows, Bullit, Dirty Harry, etc. but San Francisco just seems more right to me. Not to mention the kind of insane stunts you could get on those hills as well as having a great deal more character to it.

L.A. ... well, I don't really see a lot that you could easily do with it to make it seem as fun of a setting. Not to mention the fact that Rockstar seems very much into doing pastiches of film/tv (i.e. Vice City largely being Miami Vice thrown in with Scarface) there's a lot more ground to work with.

As for the time... well, the 70s could be cool and replicate the same sort of retro-vibe they've been going for, but personally I'd like to see them try their hands at something even older. I mean, how about a late 40s, early 50s noirish L.A.-based setting that draws on Chinatown and L.A. Confidential. Music would be radically different, but on the other hand so would the cars, clothes, weapons... everything would be a lot less derivative. Plus, I really can't remember the last time I saw something of this sort done from the criminal's perspective. It would be an interesting approach to things.

The game I'm more excited about (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8430728)

Grand Theft Auto 5: Who Gives a Shit.

In a realted story, CmdrTaco announced he will actually play the next version of GTA since, in addition to beating and raping female prostitutes, you can rape and be raped by MALE prostitutes!! He will be playing the ps2 version of the game since cum washes off a TV screen easier.

save the hatians (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8430743)

instead of having a generic ambulance mode, we'll have it transformed into a mode where you chase after gang fights and save the hatians lives after being injured by the evil cubans.

then in grand theft auto: los vegas, you'll deliver hatian hookers to cubans and vice versa to promote love between them and settle the gripes of the previous game by the cuban community.

I wish it was GTA: San Fran ... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8430754)

... so I could run over all those pole smokers and doughnut bumpers getting married at city hall.

Re:I wish it was GTA: San Fran ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8430901)

Jeb? Jeb Bush? Is that you?!!!

Console vs. PC (5, Interesting)

Quill (238781) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430772)

No screenshots? Aw man...

GTA is fabulous in that in manages to blur the distinction between genres, something that many have tried but few have succeeded.

It's interesting, because I've always loved RPGs, but never been a fan of shooters or racing games. I would never call GTA an RPG, but I would call it a shooter/racing game - but I love it!

The weirdest thing for me is that it's actually making me appreciate consoles. I've been a PC game snob, and my first GTA was Vice City on the PC. I was convinced that superior graphics + smaller load time was better, but having just bought a PS2 with GTA 3 + Vice City, I'm starting to understand that some games are just *made* to be played on consoles.

My wishlist for GTA: San Andreas (5, Insightful)

newdamage (753043) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430783)

1. Umm, swimming, a little bit, please?
2. More indoor environments.
3. More flying (helicopters were hands down the best improvement to the vehicles in GTA: VC).
4. The property buying in GTA:VC was a good first step, but it can be expanded so much further.
5. NPC drivers, accomplices, bodyguards for hire, etc, etc.

And while I know everybody is clamoring for better graphics, am I the only one that thinks the current engine from GTA:VC got the job done? I'll take gameplay over graphics any day.

Re:My wishlist for GTA: San Andreas (5, Funny)

Quill (238781) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430908)

Swimming?

What kind of crap is that? Everyone knows that in the real world when you plow your car into the water, you should just sit in it until it sinks to the bottom of the ocean. You'll just wake up in front of the hospital in a few hours.

Now, if you'll excuse me I have to pop this adrenaline pill and jump on the roof of my house. I think someone left a shotgun there.

Now, to reply seriously, the #1 feature for me in VC was the property buying. I too would like to see it expanded. I would also like to see more use for money in the game - you always finish with millions of dollars you never need.

Re:My wishlist for GTA: San Andreas (3, Interesting)

farnz (625056) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430952)

One more request; I always like biking around in GTA:VC. Police bikes (maybe just take the PCJ 600 and add a siren and flashing light) would be cool.

Re:My wishlist for GTA: San Andreas (4, Interesting)

British (51765) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430994)

I would like to see more dynamics with the pedestrians. There's o so much they can do with the virtual city they have.

how about..

1. People getting in and out of cars? We only saw this to a limited extent(cops getting out of cars, carjackigns, etc). How about taxis that pickup/drop off people at random?

2. Different behaviors for different kind of peds? Some would be cowardly, some would be valiant, and some would be just downright crazy, all gang members aside.

3. yes, more indoor locations.

4. I haven't gotten to it yet, but looks like a lot of people got frustrated with "The Driver" mission. I got stuck several times of Death Row, but eventually figured out a plan: take the chopper to get to the junkyard, and fly him to the hospital. If you fly westward a bit, Diaz's Comet car-driving thugs get stuck(since they take a linear route) in the entry area to the junkyard.

Either way, I'll be buying it the minute it's availble.

the driver (3, Insightful)

Nf1nk (443791) | more than 10 years ago | (#8431065)

I find the most fun way to do this mission is to fight my way to the trash truck and then the goons in the comets just bounce off you. much more satisfying than the helo method (unless you use the apache, but that is another post)

Re:My wishlist for GTA: San Andreas (1)

read-only (35561) | more than 10 years ago | (#8431007)

That is a pretty good wishlist.

I'm hoping for a tow-truck so that we can do repo-man missions.

Re:My wishlist for GTA: San Andreas (1)

mrpuffypants (444598) | more than 10 years ago | (#8431063)

3. More flying (helicopters were hands down the best improvement to the vehicles in GTA: VC).

No, the best vehicle improvement in VC was motorcycles. I'd take screaming down the road, cutting corners on a crotch rocket any day over riding in a helicopter.

PS2 only? (-1, Troll)

Dark Lord Seth (584963) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430786)

Why am I not surprised?

Did anyone hear that whooshing sound? That was Rockstar's reputation amongst PC & Xbox gamers taking a nose dive.

Re:PS2 only? (1)

Repugnant_Shit (263651) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430871)

Vice City was a PS2 exclusive for a *limited time*. Hopefully it will be the same with San Andreas.

Flame me if you want... (-1, Troll)

vasqzr (619165) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430797)


But this one better not suck.

Vice City was a huge dissappointment.

And the PS2 hardware is becoming very limiting. Look at the XBOX version of GTA.

Too bad they're locked into a contract with Sony.

But, even if it totally blows, it will sell a million copies.

That would never happen in the PC world. If you produce a shit sequel, you are done.

Re:Flame me if you want... (4, Funny)

onkelonkel (560274) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430879)

Windows

Windows 2.0

Windows 3.0

Windows 3.1

Re:Flame me if you want... (1)

FunkSoulBrother (140893) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430884)

Vice City was one of the best, most polished, immersive and balanced games I have ever played. It had a few AI glitches, but I disagree with you that it was a disappointment.

Re:Flame me if you want... (1)

wankledot (712148) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430885)

Care to explain why it was a huge dissappointment? I really enjoyed it, and almost every I know did too.

Re:Flame me if you want... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8430903)

Why don't you pull your tiny dick out of the controller port on your XBOX and open your fucking eyes? XBOX is as dead as your whore of a mother.

Re:Flame me if you want... (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8431072)

Why don't you pull your tiny dick out of the controller port on your XBOX and open your fucking eyes? XBOX is as dead as your whore of a mother.

Someone here is a lil bitter towards the wrong crowd ain't he? Xbox is dead? I don't think so. It must be the 100,000+ people playing PGR2 at a time that is giving you that assumption right? Not including 15 mil consoles sold worldwide?

Why don't you take a look at http://www.gamespy.com/stats/ and see if you can find more than 2 PC games with 50,000+ of players. You can't. Goodbye.

Re:Flame me if you want... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8431062)

go home troll boy

Regarding other platforms (5, Informative)

Ty_Webb (729466) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430832)

Sony has the rights to the franchise, so they grant themselves a period of time where it is only available on their platform (the PS2). After that, if they choose to, they allow other platforms to pick it up. That's why it took so long for PC & Xbox versions of GTA3 to come out, etc.

xbox-owners-crying-into-cereal-bowl (0)

churchie (665573) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430844)

Fuggettabout X-Box and their oversized controllers. At least they have the Double Pack. GameCube owners are still banging their heads against the wall over the lack of quality games not made by Nintendo. I want to petition Rockstar for a GC release.

do research (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8430981)

Fuggettabout X-Box and their oversized controllers

Hey tough guy, it isnt 2001 anymore and your oversized controller jokes are redundant and just plain moronic. Obviously you have been blind not noticing a certain "Xbox Controller S" being the standard for the last 1.5+ years.

No Xbox version? BS! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8430849)

And here I thought the Sony exclusiveness was gone...

After owning the amazing Double Pack for the Xbox, I cannot imagine going back and playing the series on the PS2. I own both an Xbox and the PS2, yet the Xbox is my favorite by a landslide. I mainly use the PS2 for Square RPGs and a few games here and there like the Tekken series.

But by the time GTA4 comes out, the GTA series will be old news and I wont be tempted to suffer through a shitty PS2 version.

Exclusive? (3, Insightful)

samsmithnz (702471) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430851)

It will probably be as exclusive as the last games... meaning they aren't ready to release the PC version yet, but maybe next year...

The new GTA! Fucking Ayyyyyyyy! (-1, Flamebait)

Saeed al-Sahaf (665390) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430877)

Right on! GTA! Let's go out and kill all the God dman beaners, niggers, slant-eyes and whores. ROCK ON! God knows we have nothing better to do than play repugnent games like this!

Game developer #1 and #2 (4, Funny)

OmniVector (569062) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430889)

developer #1: i have an idea
developer #2: what?
developer #1: you know how no one had ever really heard of GTA 1 and 2, but 3 was a great success right?
developer #2: of course
developer #1: well, lets take the already written game engine and capitalize off it's success by making the same game over and over with different cities!
developer #2: brilliant!
developer #1: brilliant!

WTF?! (-1, Troll)

jrwillis (306262) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430912)

Why on earth are they developing this for an aging platform?! The PS2 doesn't even support 1080i (which I was hoping they'd support in the next one. Boo Rockstar Games, BOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Re:WTF?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8431052)

FlopBox owner.
Libertarian.

Two time loser.

Wow! Can't wait. (3, Informative)

Trashman (3003) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430918)

In case are wondering about the city

Libery City = New York City (Modern Day)
Vice City = Miami (1986-87 there or about)
San Andreas = (I Imagine that is Los Angeles, but when?)

No PC version? (4, Insightful)

Control-Z (321144) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430921)


Weren't GTA3 and VC big sellers on the PC? Until the consoles get some equilavent of "mouselook", I have zero interest in playing games like GTA on a console.

Re:No PC version? (3, Insightful)

SoupGuru (723634) | more than 10 years ago | (#8431031)

Each time I play a shooter on a console, I get to a point where I have to aim at something, and then I shut it off. Sure, a controller is awesome for sports games but when it comes to shooting things, nothing beats a mouse and keyboard.

GTA San Andreas... (4, Funny)

enrico_suave (179651) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430935)

GTA San Andreas gives new meaning to the term "shake down"

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Exclusives dont mean what they used to... (5, Interesting)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430944)

Resident Evil: Codename Veronica was a dreamcast excluive... Code Veronica X came out for PS2 later, the X makes it a whollllle new game.. Now resident evil is a gamecube "exclusive"..

GTA3 & Vice City were PS2 "exclusives", until the PC versions, and later XBox versions came out.

The Final Fantasy series is PS2 "exclusive", nevermind that Crystal Chronicles thing.

It may be exclusive on PS2 for awhile, but I have no doubt a PC version, at least, will surface some time next year.

The only real exclusives are from the console makers themselves, Nintendo's franchise players, etc..

It just doesnt make sense for third party developers to lock themselves into one platform in such a fragmented market.

Chilling Effects and Advanced Censorship? (5, Interesting)

Featureless (599963) | more than 10 years ago | (#8430989)

Many of you will remember the brouhaha over GTA3: Vice City and the phrase "Kill all the Hatians."

It was a big stink - bigger than any of the stuff you thought would be worse (you can kill police, or anyone for that matter, in the game) that ended in Rockstar actually changing the game - they now only push a "patched" version to stores AFAIK.

I was wondering why we don't demand an apology from Francis Ford Coppola about the Godfather movies (to which the GTA series is often, for obvious reasons, compared). After all, there's a line in one about black people being animals "who have no souls."

Then again, that was said by a character, not by the screenwriter.

Isn't it interesting that sometimes we're capable of knowing the difference, and other times we're not?

People apparently love these "gotcha" stories. They have no relation to the facts, and are frightening in their ignorance about the basic issues. I mean, distinguishing between something a character is saying and something the game/movie's makers are saying is a pretty basic feat of human intelligence. Of course the context is everything - the context of the line in the game is a gang war (and "the hatains" are one of the gangs in the game). But when it's time to worry about how many people are watching your news program rather than the competitions, a scare story, a little race baiting, even when the facts aren't exactly straight, can slip through.

Especially when it's a video game.

Where are the defenders of all Hatians now? Probably advocating Edward Norton be locked up for being a Nazi (since he played one in American History X).

Apparently we still hold games to a different standard than movies, even when these games are obviously made for adults, and are rated accordingly. If the game were a movie you'd be laughed out of the room for talking about it like that.

And the amazing thing is that Rockstar has caved to this kind of idiocy.

So what's the point of all this?

If Rockstar feels they have to edit everything in their products to fly this far under the stupid-radar, then they will essentially be neutering their product - which succeeds in a large part on the basis of its funny, irreverent, transgressive "creative" (i.e. game design and story, which are, in this as in many cases, inextricable).

I'm wondering how San Andreas will stack up - if they still have their spine after the "Hatian Incident." If they PC'd and PG-13'd the series, I predict an adverse response from the audience, and at the "box office."

I know it's been said before... (5, Insightful)

dark-br (473115) | more than 10 years ago | (#8431011)

My buddy has a 3 year old. During the time his wife was away, my buddy would play GTA: Vice City, and his son would watch. The son thought it was cool when daddy "beat the shit" of of other guys with the bats. Well, Mom came home to see her son, and saw her son going to town on his favourite teddy bear with a kid-sized hockey stick. He said to his mom that it was because daddy did this "on tv". (And yes, the son would say daddy "beat the shit" out of somebody on tv.)

Whether you decide to play these games is up to you, but I believe we do have to be careful with our kids. We need to make them understand the difference between reality and fantasy, and if they can't tell the difference right now, then that's a lesson for later.

I believe it's called parenting.

ID Software (2, Funny)

Embedded Geek (532893) | more than 10 years ago | (#8431058)

Rockstar/Id merger and Quake jokes in 3, 2, 1...
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