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Acer Plans A 16 lb. Notebook

timothy posted more than 10 years ago | from the good-exercise-at-least dept.

Portables 514

jagger writes "Well not exactly gigantic but at 16 pounds and sporting a 17-inch screen this thing is stretching the term portable. It also features a 3EGHz Pentium 4, 1GB of RAM, a 7200rpm 160gb hard disk, DVD-burner and the kitchen sink. ZDNet has a rundown of all of this beast's features." This sounds like a joke (or a typo), but the story says otherwise.

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Poor move.. (4, Funny)

grub (11606) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454722)


The company is marketing the Aspire 1710 as a replacement for desktops or PC workstations primarily in the workplace.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

A laptop with docking station does the same thing with far less luggable weight, albeit at a higher price.

3 GHz P4. OK, that's pretty nice.

1 GB RAM. Nothing special about that.

160 GB disk. So what? How many offices don't have a server to store everything on?

DVD burner. Optional on some laptops and you can always use an external to a docking station.

Kitchen Sink. So what? Carry a small bottle of Purell [purell.com] in your pocket.

This has got to be a "Hail Mary" to keep brand recognition in the portable market or one of the worst marketting decisions this year.

Re:Poor move.. (1)

Jotaigna (749859) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454762)

how about, can it run linux? imagine a beowulf cluster of theese, and does it respect the laws of thermodynamics?
Someone in this whole wide world will find a suitable purpose, dont worry, just wait.

Re:Poor move.. (5, Interesting)

metlin (258108) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454804)

I agree. The only thing thats actually big about this notebook (other than the size ofcourse) is the hard-drive - the rest are nothing *that* great.

However, one selling point maybe the fact that this notebook is just $1,499 - which is quite cheap considering the configuration (and the fact that if you are a gamer, it comes with Nvidia's GeForce FX Go 5200 graphics card).

The rest of the features are cool, but nothing *so* special. Honestly, I would rather have a desktop for way lesser price than a beast that weighs so much.

Re:Poor move... I disagree (2, Interesting)

timmy0tool (756143) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454815)

If they can put laptops on peoples desk, that means a less open architecture, and therefor more revenues later in the product cycle.

Everyone who has meetings will want one if it's as fast as a desktop simply for the fact it's a laptop. I've known directors who get a new laptop every year, but don't even move it, it's simply for looks.

Not a poor move (5, Insightful)

sczimme (603413) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454866)


I don't believe it's positioned as anything "special" (cue 'short school bus' comments). It would indeed be a handy desktop replacement, requiring less real estate than a desktop CPU + monitor (even an LCD, unless you mount it on the wall). I suspect it would also require less overall power, leading to lower heat output than that of a similarly configured desktop.

No, you probably wouldn't want to try to use it very long on battery power - or on your lap - but it would be nice to be able to fold up such a capable machine and transport it from point A to point B with minimal fuss. For the record, external devices often == "fuss".

Not to flame, but a product is not a dumb idea (or a "poor move") just because you personally don't want one. To each his own, right?

Re:Not a poor move (3, Interesting)

skiflyer (716312) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454979)

Couldn't agree more.

My situation is an apartment setup such that there is no real desk/work area. There's the counter, the kitchen table, and a little table by the couch/tv.

Now, if I needed this kind of power/screen real-estate, it would make sense to me, it's never going to leave the apartment, but it's a nice computer that I can work on where I want within my apartment, and put in the closet when company comes over.

I also have other requirments which have lead me to a different purchase, but my point is simply to provide an example for your point.

Re:Poor move.. (1)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454946)

it's a movable desktop computer, stand alone.

not a corporate network laptop.

docking stations by defination aren't usually easy to wrap into a bag for moving from cost to coast or whatever.

The kitchen sink... (1)

The Gline (173269) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454729)

...in this case, has neon chaser lights.

Re:The kitchen sink... (1)

Herbster (641217) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454768)

and a waste disposal unit.

Wondering what battery it uses? (5, Funny)

Professor_Quail (610443) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454738)

See this story [slashdot.org] for more information...

Re:Wondering what battery it uses? (3, Funny)

TimmyDee (713324) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454823)

What? A link? This is Slashdot -- I want your post to be funny without having to click any more.

Re:Wondering what battery it uses? (1)

DjMd (541962) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454917)

Mod Parent Lazy -1
Or maybe JATSR 0

Just another typical Slashdot Reader

In other news... (5, Funny)

percepto (652270) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454843)

Acer corporation today announced that it has merged with the American Chiropractic Association. Their first joint project is a 16-pound "laptop" that, when carried around in a backpack, should produce revenues for both organizations.

Powerbook.......all the way (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8454745)

16 pounds? Man I would much rather tote around a 6.9 pound Apple 17in Powerbook. Yeah the Acer starts around $1500, but if you configure it with WinXP, a DVD burner and wireless networking, we are pretty close in price to Apple's solution. Besides I am more than willing to spend a bit of a premium or so for something that I don't throw my back out hauling across the country on a long flight.

Re:Powerbook.......all the way (2, Insightful)

Wateshay (122749) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454831)

Here! Here!

I've only got a 15" (and 5.6 lb) version, but it is by far the best laptop I've ever used.

Re:Powerbook.......all the way (1)

fr0dicus (641320) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454938)

Hear Hear! ;-)

I've only got a 12", but it's still the best laptop I've ever used!

Re:Powerbook.......all the way (2, Insightful)

dreamchaser (49529) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454985)

Except for the fact that, believe it or not, some people *prefer* a Wintel or Linux on Intel solution over an Apple solution. You're comparing apples to oranges really.

I agree with the other comment made here, just because YOU aren't the target market doesn't mean there isn't one.

OMG! (5, Funny)

acxr is wasted (653126) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454755)

It's like the laptop version of my sister!

Oxymorons (2, Funny)

abhisarda (638576) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454842)

Its like stating "64k cable broadband" or a "a fast tortoise"..

16lbs and notebook used in the same sentence. Hah

Re:OMG! (2, Funny)

Wolfier (94144) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454883)

No, it is like a PDA FOR your sister.

Has it owns sun too! (3, Funny)

bdigit (132070) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454758)

It's also powered by it's own sun in a jar!

Re:Has it owns sun too! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8454826)

so it can download jars from the sun.

Re:Has it owns sun too! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8454912)

>It's also powered by it's own sun in a jar! So what! My cellphone is powered by a moon on a string.

Re:Has it owns sun too! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8454975)

Really? Mine is just powered by a string that just goes up into space and stays there. [slashdot.org]

What the hell? (4, Funny)

jimmer63 (651486) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454760)

Does this come with a few vouchers for chiropractor appointments?

Perfect plan to design a laptop that won't sell... (3, Insightful)

bc90021 (43730) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454764)

1) Make it weigh 16 pounds.
2) Price it at $1999.00.

Granted, I know it's supposed to be a "desktop replacement" that is sometimes portable, but I have desktops that weigh less than this and cost a third of the price!

like alienware (4, Funny)

QEDog (610238) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454905)

16pounds, desktop processor. Sounds like an Alienware Laptop. Those puppies have 3 fans (!!!) to cool it down. In fact, I don't think it can technically be a laptop. If you put it in your lap, the high temps would boil your sperm...

Re:Perfect plan to design a laptop that won't sell (5, Funny)

CowboyNick (612553) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454928)

Hey!, by the time you add the extra battery, external HDs, keychain USB drives, digital camera, iPod, bose headphones, bag, DC/AC power supplies, voltage converters. I've got mine to 23.4lbs in the bag! Beat That!

History lesson (2, Funny)

tholomyes (610627) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454772)

Acer is bound to succeed! Historical precedent shows us the Osborne-1 was.... ah...

never mind.

Whats the point? (2, Insightful)

j0keralpha (713423) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454773)

A notebook is really meant for portability... I understand that this way you can cart a full desktop-capable machine short distances, but its a niche solution for people who want to lug things from their office to the conference room and back. Anyone who seriously needs portability (yours truly, for example) will sacrifice some performance... the target notebook market is still businesses and they dont need a p4EE

More large portables, great! (4, Interesting)

Sparr0 (451780) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454777)

This is very much not a joke. The world needs more large portables. A laptop has its place, but there are times when I need a desktop PC that is just portable. I am working on putting a modern PC into an old IBM luggable right now for this very reason. Check out the Max Pac [maxvision.com] for some more insight into this, they put a desktop PC into a briefcase with a 21" LCD on the side.

Re:More large portables, great! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8454862)

FYI, that's a 19" LCD, not a 21".

Re:More large portables, great! (1)

DavidBartlett (748559) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454964)

But would you be willing to pay a semi reasonable price for it?

SFF or laptop (0)

1SmartOne (744638) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454779)

What is the difference in a Small Form Factor or an all in once LCD unit? This doesn't seem like a catch at all.

Full size PCI/AGP video card?

more storeable than portable (5, Interesting)

pwarf (610390) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454780)

This would be great for some college students. A large part of the appeal of a laptop is that you can put it away and reclaim your desk space easily. Also, occassionally moving it to a friend's apartment or a research lab wouldn't be nearly as big a deal as a normal desktop system.

Anyway, I think my physics book weighed about that much ...

Acer has *nothing* on Apple (3, Funny)

coupland (160334) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454782)

I cough in Acer's general direction. 16 pounds, that's nothing! Apple already has a 40lb [apple.com] notebook for sale. That's a full 24 pounds heavier than Acer's, and it has a 20" LCD to boot! Yupm you guessed it, it's called an iMac.

Really now, the article says this brick actually uses a 120GB desktop IDE drive, just cause you throw a hinge on a desktop with integrated LCD doesn't make it a notebook. If this is how Acer plans to recapture the North American market I wish them luck.

New meaning for "Crashing" (1)

zombieMann (758386) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454783)

now, after you get your BSOD, you can throw your 16 pound juggernaut to the floor and get that crashing effect all over again!

Taking a lesson from Apple? (1)

redshadow01 (113325) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454784)

Kind of makes you wonder if they took a design lesson from Apple during the days of the first Portable (or should I say "luggable"?)

Its a great idea..... (2)

loserbert (697119) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454786)

for the road warrior that doesn't have time to go to the gym when traveling.

A Hummer of a Lugtop (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8454789)

So will they co-brand this with Hummer?

And will Rob Enderle be infatuated with it?

Kitchen sink? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8454790)

Considering the hygene standards of the average geek, adding a kitchen sink to a laptop is a bit pointless.

Mmmm, Acer! (1)

andy@petdance.com (114827) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454795)

I hope it has that excellent Acer quality built right in!

"... at 16 pounds..." (1)

schodackwm (662337) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454796)

...it's 3 pounds lighter than my O1 was!

...and the screen is a tad bigger, and my eyes are older, that's probably a great deal).

17lb HOLY GOD! (1)

kidgenius (704962) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454797)

I've had to lug around a laptop that weighed about 9 lbs before and I swore I would never do it again. I thought that thing was a beast, but 17lbs. The thing better come with one of those back supporter things that you see the guys at home depot wearing

Stretching the definition... (1)

gwernol (167574) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454798)

That doesn't stretch the definition of a portable. This [vintage-computer.com] stretches the definition. Those things weighed in at nearly 40lbs. I remember hauling IBM's Portable [vintage-computer.com] across London in 1985. It stretched not just the definition of a portable, but also my arms.

Luggable (4, Interesting)

kwandar (733439) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454799)

When I bought my first computer, a heavy metal Kaypro (those of you who had an Osbourne might remember), it was referred to as a "luggable".

I think this falls into that category.

Video... (1)

Sentosus (751729) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454806)

If you are going to go with a power hungry harddrive and power hungry CPU... WHY would you give us the weak mobile video chipset? Couldn't they have simply straight pinned a Radeon 9800 Pro to the MB and saved power ona slower harddrive or slower CPU?

I am sorry... The Video killed this as a Lan Gaming Machine. There are other uses, but they just sliced off a part of the market with no real reasoning as far as I can see...

EMachine's AThlon 64 3000+ with a Radeon 9600 really feels like it should be competition with this newly announced machine...

Is it really so much work, Timmy? (-1, Troll)

Mr. Darl McBride (704524) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454807)

It took two seconds to find the laptop on on Acer's site [acer.com] , where it's 6lbs, not 16lbs.

And at 1280x1024, it's a real non-story. This laptop's a yawner.

Tiny Timmy gets paid for this??? Fuck that!

Re:Is it really so much work, Timmy? (4, Informative)

Zed2K (313037) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454881)

Yet further down it says:

Average Dimensions and Weights
14.9" (378.0mm) W x 12.6" (320.0mm) D x 1.9" front - 2.2" rear (47.0mm - 55.0mm) H / 14.1 lb. (6.4kg) with combo drive, 15.7 lb. (7.1kg) with combo drive and battery

Re:Is it really so much work, Timmy? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8454990)

at the top on the same paeg it says under 7. looking at the related models which are all in the 6 pound range i bet someone put pounds in where kg were expected in the database.

i bet they do it again now that they know on obvious error is good for free slashvertising :) :) :)

Re:Is it really so much work, Timmy? (1)

birder (61402) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454893)

Methinks you have misread the kg for lbs.

Right on said web page it states, it's 14.1 lb. (6.4kg) with combo drive, 15.7 lb. (7.1kg) with combo drive and battery.

Dumb troll (1)

bdigit (132070) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454896)

You didnt even bother to read the page you linked to did you? It CLEARLY states in the page you linked

"Average Dimensions and Weights
14.9" (378.0mm) W x 12.6" (320.0mm) D x 1.9" front - 2.2" rear (47.0mm - 55.0mm) H / 14.1 lb. (6.4kg) with combo drive, 15.7 lb. (7.1kg) with combo drive and battery"

It took two seconds for me to find that, apparently when you look at something for two seconds you dont actually process any of the information.

Re:Is it really so much work, Timmy? (1)

dbretton (242493) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454902)

You should read your own link:

14.1 lb. (6.4kg) with combo drive, 15.7 lb. (7.1kg) with combo drive and battery

Re:Is it really so much work, Timmy? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8454933)

yhbt. hth. hand.

Re:Is it really so much work, Timmy? (1)

wadey fh (641191) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454919)

"14.1 lb. (6.4kg) with combo drive, 15.7 lb. (7.1kg) with combo drive and battery" 6 lbs? huh?

Re:Is it really so much work, Timmy? (1)

rsadelle (719824) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454947)

Did you even read the page you linked to? It clearly says, under the "Average Dimensions and Weights" section that the thing is 14.1 lb. (6.4kg) with combo drive, 15.7 lb. (7.1kg) with combo drive and battery.

Re:Is it really so much work, Timmy? (1)

mattyohe (517995) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454956)

Did you guys even read the topic you were repling to? There are 6 replies stating the correct weightage.

PARENT HAS INCORRECT INFORMATION (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8454986)

Please mod accordingly.

"portable"-- I've seen this before! (1)

scovetta (632629) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454812)

Does it look like this portable computer [jensebor.dk] ? 16 pounds? Come on-- Does it come in a lead-enclosed frame?

What acer.com says ... (1)

nfsilkey (652484) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454814)

http://global.acer.com/products/notebook/as1710.ht m [acer.com] contains information about the 1710.

Some snippets:

378 (W)x320 (D)x47-55 (H) mm

6.4 kg (14.06 lbs.) with combo module5

7.1 kg (15.6 lbs.) with combo module and battery

Ridiculous suitcase it is, yes!

Great for home use? (4, Insightful)

Stone316 (629009) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454817)

Personally since I don't play many games anymore (well cutting edge ones anyways) so I was thinking of getting a laptop for my next home computer and setup a wireless network. This would seem to be what i'm looking for... Not as mobile as a laptop but I don't expect to lug it around with me but its compact enough to fold up or bring to any room in the house.

And it appears to be powerfull enough that even if I did play games I could bring the 'laptop' to a friends house for a gaming night and not have to worry about lugging around a desktop system.

But there has to be a limit because... (0, Troll)

CrackedButter (646746) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454820)

...In soviet Russia, laptop weighs YOU!

16 lb is fairly lite (1)

TooLazyToLogon (248807) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454821)

I had an IBM portable that weighed 32 pounds. It only had a 9 inch screen. They called it portable. I called it luggable.

Clock speed!??!?! (2, Funny)

Bingo Foo (179380) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454830)

3EGHz Pentium 4

3 exa-giga Hertz? Let's see, that's 3 * 10^18 * 10^9 = 3 * 10^27 Hertz. Maybe Intel will always be faster than Apple.

Battery life? (2, Interesting)

lake2112 (748837) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454835)

Who wants to a laptop that will probably have a 45 minute battery life?

Lead brick (4, Funny)

cybermace5 (446439) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454844)

Sorry, the specs aren't that outstanding.

And at 16 pounds, and with that 3Ghz processor in there, it will burn your legs AND cut off circulation to them at the same time!

In other news... (2, Funny)

Hayzeus (596826) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454851)

AP -- Detroit, MI

Ford has announced plans for a new steam-powered roadster. "We believe this new vehicle will set a new standard for vehicle perfomance and efficiency, easily surpassing both oxen AND mules for both speed and maneuverability", a spokesman said.

lug nuts (2, Funny)

Doc Ruby (173196) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454853)

It's the spirit of Adam Osborne [machine-room.org] , pioneer of the luggable computer!

You kids now have it easy.... (1)

kidgenius (704962) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454856)

Back in my day.... We didnt' have "laptops". No, if we wanted portability, we strapped a few lead acid batteries to our hips, a full tower to our backs, and hung the monitor from our necks. Now that was traveling. 17lbs, you whippersnappers these days have it easy

Why should it be a joke? (5, Insightful)

Lurks (526137) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454859)

The boom in notebooks/laptops is a large part of the revival of the fortunes of IT. What's more, it's actually consumer notebook use which is the big sector which has been on the rise and most of the notebook vendors realise this.

Even business stalwarts Toshiba launched bulky widescreen notebooks into the market last year. Barely portable, these devices are designed as crosses between desktop replacements and media PCs. Sony even have a compact PC system which comes at it from the other angle.

Why is all this happening? It's because notebook prices are now at around the price which consumers are willing to pay for new computer systems. So if you walk into a shop and you can afford a notebook, it's an attractive proposition in the home. You don't need to build a huge permanent home for it, you can move it from room to room and people like the idea they can take it with them if they need to.

But really they're after compact luggable home computer systems, the real desktop replacement if you like.

The real news wont be 'is this is a joke' (which indicates to me that the poster doesn't understand the current market very well but this is Slashdot after all...) but when a vendor makes a notebook without a battery.

The day is coming.

Hardware demands (1)

rfrenzob (163001) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454863)

It will be interesting to see how they handle two of the problems that seem to plague laptops: heat and battery life. All that hardware will generate quite a bit of heat and demand a good bit of power to run.

Desktop Replacement (-1)

wedding (618458) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454864)

If you're going to throw that much horsepower in a laptop, you're really talking about two markets: gamers and cad guys that need to do demos.
In either case, the video is woefully underpowered, and there's no upgrade path. When Alien and Dell both offer laptops with upgradable video cards, how can this possibly succeed? Seems like a last gasp at relevance.

Just what I always wanted (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8454865)

scoliosis!

It's less than 7 lbs (3, Informative)

morcheeba (260908) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454867)

The heaviest model is under 7 pounds [acer.com] ... all it took was a google search for "aspire 1710".

Re:It's less than 7 lbs (1)

Zed2K (313037) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454921)

Scroll down on that page...which line is right is anyones guess. Under 7lbs or 13-15lbs...???

Re:It's less than 7 lbs (1)

cybermace5 (446439) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454955)

It's under 7kg, which seems to be the problem here...I guess landing on Mars and writing product descriptions aren't so different after all!

Re:It's less than 7 lbs (1)

morcheeba (260908) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454987)

yikes! And the kg/lbs conversion matches! I looked for someone else linking to acer.com before I posted, but I missed this post [slashdot.org] that shows another page that also has the heavier weight.

Portable is relative (1)

bigKaffeen (541510) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454870)

Of course Acer is hoping you'll purchase the new Sherpa1.0 transport package. You'll also have the option of upgrading to Lama4.2 with bundled expectorant.

I'd buy it (4, Interesting)

microbox (704317) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454876)

I've always wanted a portable desktop computer. Desktops costs less, but they're a pain to take too/from work. I don't think 16lb is any more than the books a high school student has in their bags (well mine weighed that much). Sure there's lots of people out there who want a laptop that's the size of a PDA, but there _is_ a middle ground =)

why would anyone buy this (2, Insightful)

pummer (637413) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454877)

when you could just get a 17" powerbook?

Re:why would anyone buy this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8454961)

Because it can run Windows XP in real-time.

1-hour battery life, 2 hours to charge (5, Informative)

maliabu (665176) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454879)

according to Acer's website [acer.com] , this monstop is powered by a 12-cell lithium ion battery: up to 1.0 hour life depending on configuration and usage. Battery recharge times: 2.0 hours with system off, 4.0 hours with system in use.

Re:1-hour battery life, 2 hours to charge (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8454903)

"monstop" - monster doorstop?

16 pounds... (1)

ForestGrump (644805) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454889)

Weighing in at 16 pounds, I think auto maufactures and the airline industry need to start implementing seat belts for notebooks.

-Grump

Bad idea (2, Interesting)

mao che minh (611166) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454892)

Bad idea. Our local HP reseller can get the ultra slim D530 and comparable Compaq units for about $1,000 cheaper, and after adding peripherals and a monitor we would still be saving at least $200-300.

Any pro's won in the portability of these systems over traditional desktops is easily countered: there are far lighter laptops available.

This is the most tremendously ignorant engineering move in laptop computing that I have ever borne witness to.

Ferrari laptop? (2, Funny)

FattMattP (86246) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454894)

Yeah but will it play race car sounds [slashdot.org] when I start it up?

Not really a laptop (4, Insightful)

drix (4602) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454909)

Notebook/laptop is really a bit of a misnomer, this machine sits squarely in the "desktop replacement" segment of the market. HP ZD7000 is another example. If you think of this thing as a notebook, sure it sounds like a joke, but you're failing to recognize that the old laptop-desktop dichotomy isn't valid anymore. These machines are actually quite useful. Lots of people don't ever actually take their laptop on the road, but they also don't want the big footprint of a desktop. Or they're like me, a student, and so the only time they transport their laptop is in a suitcase, to and from home. They need a smidge of portability, nothing more. (Some of these machines don't even have onboard batteries.) Desktop replacements make perfect sense. They're cheaper--you don't have to pay for the space-efficiency premium of a good notebook--and you're not stuck typing on a cramped keyboard, squinting at a miniscule screen and listening to tinny music from miniscule onboard speakers.

Compare to a 6.9 lb 17-inch PowerBook (1)

XavierItzmann (687234) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454910)

Apple's offer:

http://www.apple.com/powerbook/index17.html

PowerPC G4 at 1.33 Ghz
Gigabit Ethernet
FireWire 800
Built-In Bluetooth
SuperDrive (DVD/CD burner)
Built-In AirPort Extreme (802.11g)


Up to 4.5 hrs battery life

Re:Compare to a 6.9 lb 17-inch PowerBook (2, Informative)

Zed2K (313037) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454977)

And with a gig of memory its $3200. I don't think the apple is worth $1700 more.

Laptop Evolution (2, Insightful)

psbrogna (611644) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454911)

Is it time to bring back the term "Luggable?". This trend is reminiscent of the original portable PC's, ie. the 35 lb monsters from Kaypro & Compaq usually depicted being lugged by a sumo. Course we've progressed from the 9" bw screen to 17" and all the colors of the rainbow.

It's obviously not a "portable" (4, Insightful)

aengblom (123492) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454915)

These are just the PC markets' answer to the iMac type customers.

It's not supposed to be portable. It's to serve the people out there who don't want to deal wire wires or don't have the space in/on their desk for a full tower etc. But they want desktop performance.

They don't need it to travel with, but being able to move it around the house might be nice. Or they move frequently and don't want to deal with taking the thing apart and putting it back together each time (My desktop sure is a bitch to move.)

Huh (1)

LittleLebowskiUrbanA (619114) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454924)

How is this much better than a 15.2 or 17 inch Powerbook?

Nah... its still more "portable" then... (1)

Fallen Kell (165468) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454941)

the 1980's 32lb "portable" computers. It even has 8 inches more screen and color graphics (let alone the greater then 64k memory).

Well, I got that beat. (1)

MImeKillEr (445828) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454943)

I can slap my system on a cart and hook it to a UPS.

Athlon XP 2100+
512MB DDR
52x24x52 CDRW
4x2x4 DVD+RW
dual 17" monitors
Verto GeForce 4 64MB
etc.

Even without the UPS and batteries, I'm sure it weighs in @ at least 100 lbs.

It's a Portable Desktop Machine. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8454962)

It doesn't have a battery. Much like this. [www.adid.ca]

I have an idea on how to make money.

1) Buy Acer 17lb monstrosity.
2) Use laptop on lap and get 3rd degree burns from the desktop components.
3) Sue! Profit!!! Yay!!!!!!

Obligatory quote out of context (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8454969)

"...Microsoft's Windows XP Professional Edition operating system, is expected to cost about $2,000, according to a report by analyst firm ARS.

They must be using the "Total Cost of Ownership" argument. If so, I think they're underestimating it.

is it going to be dubbed . . . (1, Funny)

Cokelee (585232) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454973)

. . . the notebrick???

Hp has a monster notebook too (1)

enrico_suave (179651) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454982)

It's like an entertainment center type package. I guess the idea is you won't WANT to leave home and therefore never carry it.

HP Pavilion zd7000 [techtv.com] review on freshgear/techtv

*shrug* some things don't need to be supersized.

e.

In other news, (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8454992)

some company decided to release a new piece of hardware. The company says it's better and that you should buy one. Slashdot editors run with story, more at six as this incredible story develops.

Heh (1)

Dark Lord Seth (584963) | more than 10 years ago | (#8454995)

Acer 1700 series laptops are HUGE. And heavy. And they sell like hot cakes. Not to mention the fact we had at least 3 returned to Acer who broke down before we even sold them... Seriously, they make a good alternative to people who want a computer for home use but who don't want any kind of case. After they done with it, they just cram it in some drawer and forget about it, leaving plenty of desk space.

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