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Changing Jobs for Job Satisfaction?

Cliff posted more than 10 years ago | from the switching-career-tracks dept.

The Almighty Buck 895

I-love-my-work, who is considering rejoining the IT world after a stint in business, asks: "A molecular biologist with a PhD at University of Birmingham, in the UK, quits his lab position to become a plumber, since a plumber apparently earns twice what he currently makes (~US$42K). How many of you would change careers if given a chance? What factors would influence the decision (money, hours, upper management, a chance to enjoy more of your life)?" What factors would make you seriously consider leaving your current career for another?

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Paid? (4, Funny)

Antarius (542615) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456811)

Paid? I'm supposed to get Paid?!

Duuuude....

Re:Paid? (3, Informative)

2names (531755) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456846)

Not if you work for Komatsu in Peoria, IL. They just announced another round of layoffs today that will take effect at the end of March.

"...it's the old 'cut our way to profitability' trick!!!"

Yes. (4, Insightful)

Axe (11122) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456932)

Sorry. As much as I like science, I like having all bills paid even more.

Getting paid 1/4 for job satisfaction? Nah..

I would change if I got paid the same (2, Interesting)

TruffleGuy (664280) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456816)

I have considered this time and time again but the only thing keeping me from changing out of IT to something more gratifying is money.

Re:I would change if I got paid the same (5, Funny)

tessaiga (697968) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456891)

I have considered this time and time again but the only thing keeping me from changing out of IT to something more gratifying is money.
Are you perchance posting this from India? 'cuz I'm having trouble making sense of this if you're American ...

Re:I would change if I got paid the same (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8456999)

Just because some one has a job in IT doesnt mean its what they want to do

If you made enought money to support you and keep you happy when you not at work but you hated your job would you want to stay at that job or leave and got to a lowe paying job?

Re:I would change if I got paid the same (3, Funny)

nervouscat (597962) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456893)

Every time I try to get out of the (IT) business, I get pulled back in. ;-)

Re:I would change if I got paid the same (1)

KingOfBLASH (620432) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456993)

I have considered this time and time again but the only thing keeping me from changing out of IT to something more gratifying is money.


Some of us are changing out of IT because of lack of money -- mostly because we're now part of the great unwashed, unemployed masses. Thanks outsourcing!

I changed him once (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8456820)

And believe you me, Steve Jobs was PISSED. When he finally got out of the closet where I was keeping him, he killed the cloned Steve Jobs I made, and fired me.

A horse whisperer! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8456822)

No mare could resist charms of any of them!

Find a job you love.... (4, Insightful)

WesG (589258) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456823)

....and you'll never have to work a day in your life :-)

Re:Find a job you love.... (5, Funny)

Deitheres (98368) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456878)

Or perhaps one could find a job that does not require work, and therefore come to love it ;-)

Re:Find a job you love.... (5, Interesting)

Warped1 (68788) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456887)

Not always true, unfortunately. All too often the 'job' part ruins the 'fun' part.

For example, I used to love programming. Then I got a job doing it for a living ... and I no longer can easily start working on programming related things once I get home from work. After 5+ years of doing it as a job now, it's very difficult for me to spend time writing code at home now ... it just feels too much like work. =(

Re:Find a job you love.... (5, Insightful)

Beatbyte (163694) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456941)

which means you enjoyed it without the deadlines, forced work, etc.

basically you liked it as a hobby, not as a job.

a good thing to keep in mind.

Re:Find a job you love.... (4, Funny)

Loki_1929 (550940) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456967)

"All too often the 'job' part ruins the 'fun' part."

So you're telling me that Ron Jeremy responds to a woman coming onto him with, "Naa, you look pretty hot an' all, but it'd feel too much like work..."?

Re:Find a job you love.... (4, Funny)

gareth6889 (745319) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456982)

which is why i NEVER want to be a gynecologist :)

Re:Find a job you love.... (3, Insightful)

kfg (145172) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456986)

Are you coding what you love at work?

If not, you have not yet found a job you love.

KFG

Re:Find a job you love.... (2)

jimiZ (42759) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456909)

I agree. If you love what you do then it is easy to get up in the morning and work.

Re:Find a job you love.... (2, Interesting)

ydnar (946) | more than 10 years ago | (#8457018)

Then why to game developers work 12 hour days, 6 or 7 days a week?

In all seriousness, I gave up the ideal career-making game dev job for a relatively mundane web application job. Why? Because the latter paid significantly more, had flexible hours, didn't require working on the weekends, and let me stay in San Francisco.

It was entirely a Quality of Life decision, and while part of me misses the "Biz," I'm still glad I made it. The additional money, time, and flexibility enhances my life outside of work, which is more important (IMO).

y

oh hell yes (-1, Flamebait)

NeoTheOne (673445) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456827)

sitting at a damn computer screen all freakin day is getting depressing...I'm even posting to sites that whine about music prices and technology run amok... ;-)

Re:oh hell yes (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8456875)

Mods are high. How's this a troll?

moderators are robots.... (-1, Redundant)

NeoTheOne (673445) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456906)

the concept of sarcasm is grasped SO WELL by them...I mean they are like moderating GODS.....seriously guys get a clue

Re:moderators are robots.... (0, Offtopic)

gnuLNX (410742) | more than 10 years ago | (#8457003)

Well keep posting to slashdot and you too my friend will get your chance to moderate.

impractical (0)

Brahmastra (685988) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456829)

It's not always practical to change jobs for job satisfaction alone. Very few people actually like their job. I personally prefer to sit on my arse all day, doing nothing. But, that isn't practical either.

Guess what (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8456830)

I soiled myself.

I Support SCO (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8456831)

SCO has had their IP stolen by unscrupulous GNU hippies. I wish them success in their mission.

Next SCO should sue slashdot. They are the Al-Jazeera of the open source world. Slashdot editors should be rotting away in prison, they are criminals.

Re:I Support SCO (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8456863)

Long live freedom of speech?

I changed to IT (1)

LouSir (681838) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456839)

I hated being a lawyer (insert joke here) and went into IT. Making pretty good money and wouldn't go back to law for triple the money. LouSir

Re:I changed to IT (2, Insightful)

hoagieslapper (593527) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456901)

I agree. I would rather love my job making 20K a year than hate my job making 100K a year.

Re:I changed to IT (5, Insightful)

Jason1729 (561790) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456976)

If that were the choice, I'd rather hate my job for 5 years making $100k/year, put $80k each year in the bank and then quit my job and pay myself $20k each year for the next 25 years out of the saved money to do what I want ;).

Jason
ProfQuotes [profquotes.com]

Re:I changed to IT (2, Interesting)

caseydk (203763) | more than 10 years ago | (#8457008)


you say that now, but once the checks start rolling in...

I was in a project that I loved, unfortunately, it ended. I then took another position within the company with a 25% raise attached. I absolutely hated the job and the subject matter was pretty rough, but I dealt with it.

Once that project dried up, I went back into development, took a 10% pay cut, but it's a much better fit.

Re:I changed to IT (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8456904)

Also a lawyer, turned IT professional. I would _consider_ going back into law, but i know i would miss fun things in technology like all the times you get to work on a really hard logical problem and the satisfaction you get when you solve it. Then again money is pretty nice too

Re:I changed to IT (1)

LouSir (681838) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456975)

What I hated about law was arguing all day everyday. With other lawyers, prosecutors, judges and clients. It's non-stop. Now I just shut off the computer if it pisses me off. LouSir

The fact that it has all but moved to India... (1)

John Courtland (585609) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456843)

...is my reason for looking into gravedigging. Seriously.

Re:The fact that it has all but moved to India... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8456866)

If you find someone that is hiring let me know I'd like to grave rob as well.... Oh you said grave digging

Re:The fact that it has all but moved to India... (2, Insightful)

Mancide (30030) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456871)

Yea, this offshoring is rather annoying. All the textile jobs moved offshore, so people got into IT. All the IT jobs are moving offshore, so where do we go? What happens when plumbing jobs go offshore? We'll eventually be a country of rich corporations and unemployed citizens. Well, maybe that's a bit of a longshot, but it makes you wonder.

Re:The fact that it has all but moved to India... (4, Funny)

op00to (219949) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456918)

What happens when plumbing jobs go offshore? We'll eventually be a country of rich corporations and unemployed citizens.

And it'll smell, from all the shit piling up due to the lack of local plumbers!

Re:The fact that it has all but moved to India... (1)

PacoTaco (577292) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456995)

What happens when plumbing jobs go offshore?

Invest in a pipe manufacturer.

yeah.... I'm just not gonna go anymore (5, Funny)

bangular (736791) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456847)

What would you do if you had a million dollars?
Besides 2 chicks at the same time?
Well yeah
I'd do absolutly nothing...
=)

Re:yeah.... I'm just not gonna go anymore (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8456899)

Can you just like zonk me out up here so when I come home I think I was out fishing all day

Re:yeah.... I'm just not gonna go anymore (5, Funny)

2names (531755) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456900)

You don't need a million dollars to do nothin. my brother-in-law don't do shit and he's broke.

Re:yeah.... I'm just not gonna go anymore (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8456959)

You need a million to do two chicks at one time. It only cost me 15$ to get into the party where I did two chicks. Man you should learn how to better use your resources around you :)

Time with my family (5, Insightful)

Chairboy (88841) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456850)

I work in the software industry, and the recent death of a co-worker has me thinking about what I do with my time. Could I support my family with an at-home job? Could I work somewhere that lets me spend more time with my kids?

Sure, I make pretty good scratch, but what fun is the money if you never get a chance to spend it?

These questions and more are definately floating around our office.

Re:Time with my family (5, Funny)

indulgenc (694929) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456873)

"what fun is the money if you never get a chance to spend it?"

Ask you wife.

Money and Hours! (3, Interesting)

saden1 (581102) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456857)

It is simple really, it is a pay me world and I want to get paid. I think I'll be happy doing whatever so long as it pays well and I can live comfortably. Of course the hour worked is also a quality look for in a job. I don't exactly want to spend my weekends working.

Re:Money and Hours! (4, Insightful)

smitty45 (657682) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456925)

so if you have weekends off and you get paid "well", you have no problem being a porn spammer ?

How about a garbage collector ?
What about a factory worker ?

Yup (4, Funny)

ENOENT (25325) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456861)

If I ever get an offer for the position of "Beatle", I'm outta here.

I kill bugs (4, Funny)

hoggoth (414195) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456862)

All day long, every day, I find bugs in software and kill those bugs.
I just found out that I would make more money if I spend all day long, every day, finding bugs under furniture and kill those bugs.

Re:I kill bugs (2, Funny)

Dr. Banana (34988) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456935)

Finding and squishing a sofware bug can be mildly satisfying.

Finding and squishing a real bug just gets your shoes all gooey.

YOUR SIG FAILS IT. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8456946)

It's /dev/random, not /dev/rand. But even this would fail it because /dev/rand continually requires input from the mouse and/or keyboard to produce new entropy data! YOU FUCKED IT HARD!

Self-employment... (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8456868)

...lets you change jobs without changing careers. You do become the final level of responsibility and you have to do some bookkeeping and bill collecting, but you have complete control of your work environment and hours. When you work long and hard, you directly benefit. With proper planning you can take large blocks of time off for whatever.

Where do I sign? (3, Interesting)

da3dAlus (20553) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456870)

I spent 5 years getting a BC in CS to do a job that a flea-infested, poo-flinging resus monkey could do in its sleep. And I've been doing the same thing for 18 months this week. Quite frankly I'm ready to start considering a change, since I pretty much have a snowball's chance in hell of finding something else in the IT field. I've already informed some of my superiors that if they don't place me in something that more effectively uses my abilities, I'm probably leaving. They've been dangling a carrot in front of me for months about an actual programming position...yeah right.

Beauracratic BS (1)

Egekrusher2K (610429) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456874)

The one major thing that I HATE about my job is dealing with all of the BS policies made by my company for the sole purpose of screwing our customers over.

what motivates anyone? (1)

way2trivial (601132) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456879)

I'd happily leave my job to become

a millionaire
Gigolo
linus torvalds
Cowboy Neal
Phil from Heck

but truly, finding something I enjoy doing, and pays my bills, I have.. My wife doesn't think I make enough, but whose wife does? I've had my job since 1990, I hit the ceiling at that location 3 years ago.. I can't imagine leaving unless it's to call in 'rich lottery winner'

You know I just realised... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8456881)

CowboyNeal could quit his dayjob and become a full time Jabba impersonator.

A plumber? (3, Funny)

NetNinja (469346) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456883)

To go from an air conditioned lab to unclogging shitters is not my idea of job satisfaction.

Re:A plumber? (4, Funny)

op00to (219949) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456969)

Some people enjoy the look on people's faces when their clogged toilet flushes again. And some people enjoy the look on people's faces when they get the bill for this poopsmithery.

Well timed article... (5, Interesting)

irving47 (73147) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456892)

I'm thinking of moving out of the IT industry...
What I'm looking for:
Reasonable job satisfaction- No more adjusting the settings on something that's going to get screwed up constantly or need non-stop maintenance. Something physical. And preferably something that people don't consider vital to their life. I can't even guess how many day-traders have threatened to hold me responsible for their ISP being down...

Human interaction-And by human, I don't mean people that can't use their computers.
Being in a job where the only people you see for months on end are 7 other guys kind of gets old. Especially if you don't get out a lot.
Money will/would be nice, but my expenses are low, so I'm fortunate that it won't be a primary concern.

I was given the chance (5, Interesting)

Rosco P. Coltrane (209368) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456902)

I was a highly-paid dot-com bubble programmer, and then I was asked to become a vacationer overnight.

Seriously though, it was a very pleasant experience : 2 years of absolute slacking, doing only what I wanted on the money I had made during the bubble, recovering from 5 years of uninterrupted software development death marches that had left me kind of sick, and reflecting on all the mistakes I will never make in the future, either as an employee or as an entrepreneur.

I want to be a gangster (0)

Tree131 (643930) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456907)

I'm a sysadmin w/ a degree in Molecular Biology. My job is mostly stress free, because I actually design/deploy/do it right the first time and have procedures in place to fix things that go wrong. However, if given a choice of having another job and not worrying about how much I make? I'd rather sit on my ass and play Evercrack all day with occasional breaks for food, showers, and sex. Hey, maybe I can be a game tester... If money mattered, I'd rather be a lawyer or a CFO. But then, I wouldn't have time to read /.

(almost) a true story (5, Funny)

targo (409974) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456912)

One professor of mathematics noticed that his kitchen sink at his home broke down. He called a plumber. The plumber came on the next day, sealed a few screws and everything was working as before. The professor was delighted. However, when the plumber gave him the bill a minute later, he was shocked. "This is one third of my monthly salary!" he yelled. Well, he paid and then the plumber said to him: "I understand your position as a professor. Why don't you come to our company and apply for a plumber position? You will earn three times as much as a professor. But remember, when you apply tell them that you completed only the seventh grade. They don't like educated people."

So it happened. The professor got a plumber job and his life significantly improved. He just had to seal a screw or two occasionally, and his salary went up significantly. One day, the board of the plumbing company decided that every plumber has to go to evening classes to complete the eighth grade. So, our professor had to go there too. It just happened that the first class was math. The evening teacher, to check student's knowledge, asked for a formula for the area of the circle. The person who was ask was the professor. He jumped to the board, and then he realized that he forgot the formula.
He started to reason it and soon filled the board with integrals, differentials and other advanced formulas to conclude the result that he had forgotten. As a result he got "negative pi times r squared." He didn't like the negative, so he started all over again. He got the negative sign again. No matter how many times he tried, he always got a negative. He was frustrated. He looked a bit scared at the class and saw all the plumbers whisper: "Switch the limits of the integral!!"

A small guideline of mine (2, Insightful)

Bega (684994) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456915)

"If you love what you do, you'll never have to work another day in your life."

Re:A small guideline of mine (1)

HumanTorch (568372) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456980)

"If you love what you do, you'll never have to work another day in your life."

"How beautiful it is to do nothing, and then rest afterward."

--Spanish Proverb

Would I? Sure, I already did! (5, Insightful)

balloonpup (462282) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456916)

I worked in IT for a good number of years, as everything from tech support to running a small computer shop. Eventually, I decided to try something else...I was getting sick of IT, sick of people. I went full tilt the other direction -- I became a trucker. The pay is the same or better (depending upon what I'm doing), and the satisfaction of getting things done, truly, is much better than the endless chain of people in tech support. Fixing pc's was never the same, nor was managing databases. I've also found that it's great seeing the country as a whole -- there's a lot of stuff out there you just don't get to enjoy when you're inside a building 8-12 hours a day.

$84K US for being a plumber? (1)

PantyChewer (557598) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456917)

That some expensive shit. Plumbing isnt that hard to do aside from gas fittings. I've actually thought about doing it too since I know they get paid well. I just didn't know it was THAT much.

Airline pilot (1)

mewyn (663989) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456920)

Althought I like where I am headed in my career, systems administrator, an alternate choice has always been Airline pilot. Too bad you start off making squat for pay and have to go through so much expensive flight school. :/

Mewyn Dy'ner

I'm not in it for the money.... (5, Interesting)

freeze128 (544774) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456926)

On some really bad days, I sometimes consider leaving the IT industry and becoming a botanist.
What's the worst that could happen? Your bulbs don't germinate on time? Maybe some of your plants get some bugs... It's not like 500 employees breathing down your neck because the server is down.

But I would really miss working with the people. Go figure. The source of most of my IT pain is really the only reason for working in the industry.

Illusionary (5, Insightful)

Bilestoad (60385) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456927)

Don't forget that the grass is always greener.

So chemists want to be he-man plumbers, swinging a pick and gaining satisfaction from building something tangible? Plumbers wish they could sit on their asses out of the weather and keep their fingers soft and clean on a keyboard all day. Programmers wish they could be making explosions in a chemistry lab, wearing a cool white coat and getting all the chicks!!

my teacher (1)

dindi (78034) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456928)

My teacher at high school quit his job for the same reason.

He was one of the best history teachers I've ever met, and he was also teaching physical education, and poetry (strange combination huhh? ).

So I saw this respected man WASHING the WINDOWS of that huge office building day after day just over the street from my apt.

back to topic: I quit my job for "more relaxed life" and also for more money ....

now I work at home and I wouldn't change it for the world's money or anything else :)

More enjoyment out of life (5, Insightful)

rotomonkey (198436) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456929)

It's getting too stressful worrying about layoff-this, RSI-that. I work in an industry (3D animation) that in ten years will probably be smaller than it is now. When I change careers it will probably be because I'm too tired of being one of the rats clinging to Titanic's rigging. This used to be a job that I loved (and you're right, I never worked a day), but that has changed and it's a job now.

I'll switch careers when I find something that will make me as happy as doing 3d work did five years ago.

Stress. (3, Interesting)

saintlupus (227599) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456934)

What factors would make you seriously consider leaving your current career for another?

If I didn't like it, of course.

Right now, I work for a private college in the IT department. It's pleasant work, for the most part. Taking a job like this definitely caps your potential income, but frankly, there's a lot more important factors than money.

If I'm spending a third of my weekday hours somewhere, or more, why the hell would I do it somewhere I hate? That's like just _asking_ to be miserable the rest of the time.

--saint

No guts. (2, Interesting)

looseBits (556537) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456937)

Right now I'm a programmer but I am also an avid scuba diver. I wish I had the courage to quit my job and open up a dive operation in Akumal or somewhere similar.

Do they have broadband in Akumal?

Porn? (1)

StupaflyD (729788) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456939)

if the new job offered a nice blonde intern...

Well, I'm giving notice in a couple of weeks. (1)

Moderation abuser (184013) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456942)

Basically my job has become one of electronic paper pushing and I'm just not interested. I'll be leaving in June.

I did that (2, Interesting)

perlchimp (263475) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456943)

I went from a career working in life sciences to programming because I was sick of science and lab work. Plus my new job paid twice what my old job did. Now I work as a bioinfromatics programmer. So, in the end, I have combined the two.

Find me a job (1)

aliens (90441) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456944)

That doesn't involve me dealing with crippling arthritis/carpel tunnel in the coming years.

I love what I do with computers, but the amount of time it involves and the idea of not being able to play catch with my kids because my hands hurt too much has me wondering if I'll really do this for years and years.

Plumbing might not be such a bad idea.

Already doing it (5, Interesting)

Loctavius (607834) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456954)

I changed out of IT after the crash in 2000. I started teaching college as a stopgap measure and found it immensely rewarding despite the drastic drop in pay. I got certified to teach math in Florida, and I'm now here looking to teach kids in the public school system. Job satisfaction was the only motivating factor.

I get paid to (5, Interesting)

The Unabageler (669502) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456958)

sit at home, hack perl code, and watch tv/listen to music. I work in my underwear most days...in fact I'm posting in my underwear. I have sex while i'm at work when my gf comes over. I can drink if i want, smoke whenever i want, get a tan on my deck since i have a laptop, whatever i want. sometimes i walk downtown and go to a coffee shop for a change of scenery.

plus i get paid well :) what more can I ask for? maybe i could buy a house close to where i am now, which is 3 blocks from the beach.

People (1)

barcodez (580516) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456961)

I left my last job as the people I worked with didn't have a clue. Management was clueless, the technical people were clueless and there was zero communication. Some may say I should have stayed and tried to fix it but I say life is too short. Looked for another job - got a good one and I'm now working with some of the best people in the industry, getting paid more and learning loads.

No Wonder (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8456962)

And people wonder why more kids aren't going into the hard sciences? How about giving them some incentive after going to school for 4-9 years (in addition to high school)?

It's utterly ridiculous that someone goes through such rigorous schooling and yet makes so little. Talk about a broken market. Some sectors of Chemistry, for example, have an unemployment rate of .8%, yet the average starting salary is 40k!

I did it myself. (1)

sharkb8 (723587) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456963)

I quit my job programming - not in anticipation of getting fired or outsourced, but because I got tired of it. 7 years of being asked why our software couldn't make our clients a ham sandwich at the click of a button. Now I'm going to law school to eventually become a patent/i.p. lawyer. My first case when I graduate? How about a class action lawsuit asgainst SCO for violation ogf the GPL? Not neccesarily the best thing for the bank account in the short run, but the Amaerican Bar Association will never let lawyering get outsourced to India. And yeah, I know, everyone thinks lawyers suck. That always seems to change when a person gets their car rear-ended by an company driver though...

Lets see... (4, Insightful)

BWJones (18351) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456965)

A molecular biologist with a PhD at University of Birmingham, in the UK, quits his lab position to become a plumber, since a plumber apparently earns twice what he currently makes (~US$42K).

Hopefully if you are in science, you are doing what you do for reasons other than financial gain. Ideally, one should be doing what they are doing in science to make a difference . Really, because there are a ton of things people can do that are much easier that writing papers, doing good science and applying for grants that make much more money than do your typical scientist. Take for instance the auto mechanic who works on my neighbors BMW. That dude (mechanic) clears six figures easy. Another set of examples: Before I went to graduate school, one of my jobs was a mechanic for old Ferrari's and Lamborghini's. That was not too bad in terms of income and certainly covered the cost of tuition. The carpenter we paid to make our couch makes some pretty good money. The dudes that replaced our sewer line and driveway cleaned up to the tune of $4000 or so. So, if you are just in it for the money, go get an MBA or a plumbing license or something.

Hand Made Guitars (5, Interesting)

JustAnotherReader (470464) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456966)

I am currently building mountain dulcimers for sale and I'm learning to build acoustic guitars and mandolins. After playing music all my life and guitar for about 30 years I just feel like this is the right move. And now that we've been told that our company is going to be outsourcing our jobs it turns out to be good that I have a backup plan.

The way I feel about it is this: I can sit in a cubicle doing what is essentially rearranging random ones and zeros into non-random order to create something of value (although most of my time is actually spent doing documentation, reports, supervision, meetings etc).
OR I can take a bunch of raw pieces of wood and create something that is not only beautiful, but allows a musician to create even more beauty and music.

Which one sounds more satisfying to you?

The more I write code the more I want to build guitars for a living.

[BTW, I'd love to add a shameless plug for my website right about here but I'd probably just slashdot myself and end up taking my whole site down]

Interesting question for a Wednesday afternoon. (1)

rjelks (635588) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456974)

I'm guessing that most of the posters today won't be moaning about too much free time at their current jobs. *We're on Slashdot* Seriously though, I'd switch careers in a heartbeat for a highly paid, low accountability, telecommuting job. Is anyone hiring? :)

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decided to turn down job. (1)

lasermike026 (528051) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456977)

I decided to turn down a job with a sizable increase in salary. When i interview with the company I found that they were constantly putting out fires and not setting up there systems to avoid problems. I realized that my life would suck supporting their environment so I decided to not to go. I'm begining to realize that money with a lousy quality of life simply isn't worth it. I am now considering leaving my corporate job and starting my own company. Quality of life is where its at. Companies that understand that will benefit from it.

There's no chance in hell... (1)

jxliv7 (512531) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456978)

.

...I would change jobs.

I'm retired.

Been there, done that (kind of) (3, Insightful)

Michael Woodhams (112247) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456981)

PhD in Astronomy, 1998. My thesis dragged out endlessly so that once I'd finished it, I couldn't stand the thought of doing the work to create some papers out of it. Also, I wanted to come back home (New Zealand) and astronomy jobs are hard to get here.
1998-2003: Commercial programmer. OK at first, but eventually I was just doing the same old stuff again and again. I was getting very bored and I think because of that, unproductive.
So now I'm an applied mathematician in bioinformatics (having studied no biology since early high school). I was earning 40% more at the previous job, but it is worth it to be doing something interesting again.
Money is nice (a friend once called it "the sincerest form of appreciation") but having new, challenging and interesting things to do is more important.

And I wonder... (1)

SharpFang (651121) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456987)

if any of you have two(+) jobs in different fields, enjoying both.

I'd personally love some part-time horse-related job (farrier, trainer, stable manager), but without quitting IT.

Work Environment (1)

just some computer j (594460) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456996)

I find that a hostile work environment makes me want to move on. Especially if it is strict deadline driven business like litigation support.

You would think that highly educated lawyers would be better at time management.

Post-doc? Of course plumbers make more... (3, Insightful)

xanthines-R-yummy (635710) | more than 10 years ago | (#8456998)

This isn't meant to be a troll or anything, but Post-doctoral fellows (aka post-docs) are training-type positions like medical residents. They earn slave wages under the guise of training. Of course, after their 3,4,5,6 year training stint, their earnings go up exponential to make up for lost time.

A junior technician (bachelor's degree) can make around $50K USD here in the US. A PhD can command more as a "mere lab tech." That's IF s/he wants to continue to do science. They can get jobs reasonably easily as *shudder!* consultants. In fact, I went to seminar on how to tweak your resume (a science PhD resume, anyway) to get a job in consulting.

I seriously doubt he'll be making over $100K USD after 5 years as a plumber. With his PhD he can, if he plays his cards right.

Very good question IMHO (1)

2000 Britneys (549923) | more than 10 years ago | (#8457002)

If given and chance and given the years it took me to become Professional accountant I would definitively change my carrier path.

Heck if someone paid me what I am making right now to go to school to requalify to say a doctor or engineer or whatever I would probably do it

Why ?

Scoze it is a challenge and I like challenges and learning about new "stuff"

I may change my career in the next 10 years. It is always a consideration

Skill Set Thrash (1)

codecasting (754937) | more than 10 years ago | (#8457006)

Having lost my job about three weeks ago, I would definitly consider leaving my current career (unemployment) for another. :-)

I've worked successfully as a developer in one form or another for the last ten years, but I'd definitely consider a switch to a new field where the skillset doesn't change as often.

The challenge is that you get a job working for a company that uses technology A. But technology A inevitable falls out of favor over time. Large companies are often so invested in A, though, that they don't change to new technology B very quickly. It's easy to end up in a situation where your skill set is no longer as marketable, unless you spend nights and weekends learning technology B on your own. But even then, you only have "hobby" experience and not professional experience...

Ahh, heck with it. I'm just gonna go sell shoes.

In the words of Clark W. Grsiwold... (2, Funny)

Drunken_Jackass (325938) | more than 10 years ago | (#8457007)

"It's so beautiful, I feel so ... I feel my juices are just you know ... it makes me so ... I want to write, I want to paint, I want to sculpt something massive. I've got a creative urge. I wonder if there's a men's room around here."

I'd give up my day job in a heartbeat if there was any money in the massive sculpture market.

What would I do without software? (2, Insightful)

SuperChuck69 (702300) | more than 10 years ago | (#8457009)

I've come to find I really don't like working in software. But the problem is, I don't know what else I WOULD like to do.

It's not that I don't like software or don't like building things, but the real world of software engineering lacks the creativity and creationism I got into the field for in the first place. I do what my boss tells me to do. I follow a schedule. I spend the whole day gazing out my window, wishing I could spend the daylight hours outdoors. I feel like a factory worker.

Median Plumbers Salary in the US -- $32,406 (5, Informative)

endeitzslash (570374) | more than 10 years ago | (#8457010)

Here. [salary.com]

How depressing. (1)

KlaatuVN (213930) | more than 10 years ago | (#8457013)

That instead of educating young minds and advancing scientific knowledge, he has chosen to wade through pipes filled with poo and who-know-what-else.

I suppose this wouldn't happen if we paid our educators more. I moved from Biochemistry to IT because I despised writing grant proposals.

I don't blame the man. It seems like the system is a bit wonky if plumbers make more than a professor at a uni.

my current profession (-1)

c4thy (224077) | more than 10 years ago | (#8457019)

after losing out in the american idol auditions ive decided to take up prostitution. i was arrested last week for public lewdness so that threw my earnings back to just under $150. otherwise i normally make enough to support my various drug habits.

plan, then execute (1)

Maxwell (13985) | more than 10 years ago | (#8457020)

I am getting out of IT. I am planning on running a bicycle store. Mountain bikes, BMX, something for the road weanies. This high flying job is not going to last forever. My toyota is paid for and I live in a 1bed condo that I also own. I am investing in properties, 2 so far, one more this spring, and am in my last class for my B.S. in Business. "Fables and Folktales", the things you do to graduate :) Goes well the engineering AA. Next up MBA, a few more investments and....see ya...

Why be Dilbert when you can be the pointy haired boss?

JON

Oh yeah, my H1B expires June 1, 2007. If Bush buys the white house again, I'll leave earlier.

A Year to Live (1)

Argofickyusilf (719887) | more than 10 years ago | (#8457023)

by Steve Levine

Enough said.. read it yourself..
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