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Coffee is a "Health Drink"

CmdrTaco posted more than 10 years ago | from the bring-my-64-ozs-of-java dept.

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WoodenRobot writes "Not that it would stop an Italian or a techie from drinking the stuff, but Chiara Trombetti, of the Humanitas Gavazzeni institute of Bergamo has reported that coffee, especially espresso, is good for you and provides numerous health benefits. All the more reason to tuck into a cup o' Joe - but no more than 3 or 4 cups a day."

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Cheers (3, Funny)

Shivaji Maharaj (692442) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498083)

For Good health - there's my first dose - nothing like a rich black brazilian coffee

Re:Cheers (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8498127)

Coffee is a powerful drug. It gives you health benefits at the cost of health problems and addiction.

You might as well be saying cocaine is a "health powder"

re: cheers (1)

ed.han (444783) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498216)

quoth the article:

"chiara trombetti, of the humanitas gavazzeni institute of bergamo..."

am i alone in finding this more than mildly ironic?

ed

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Great Health (5, Funny)

loserbert (697119) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498100)

It's just as good as getting a hi-colonic (sp?) so keep on drinking those 4 cups a day and keep your colon clean as a whistle!

I'm shooting for 10 cups a day, maybe I can be the first self propelled man into space.

Just the smell of coffee gets me goin' (5, Funny)

chia_monkey (593501) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498227)

Seriously...if I make coffee or smell it, I can feel the dogs scratchin' at the door and I gotta let them out quick. It's amazing the power of coffee. Anyone else just SMELL the stuff and feel the need to take the browns to the super bowl?

Re:Just the smell of coffee gets me goin' (1)

bobdinkel (530885) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498361)

Yup. In my younger days I heard people talk about this and I just thought that this just happened to old people. I used to consume a great deal of coffee--usually a couple of double espressos followed by a pot of coffee. It never made me "feel the need to take the browns to the super bowl." Well, I gave up caffeine for about a year and now just smelling coffee sends me running to the can with a book. Thanks for letting me share.

Re:Great Health (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8498278)

You are going to need a lot more than 10 cups. I drink more than 10 cups a day and I still get tired in the afternoon.

#1 Health benefit (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8498107)

Daily use prevents caffeine withdraw.

Just had my first double. Thanks, Krups!

As a techie who doesn't drink it... (4, Insightful)

bc90021 (43730) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498110)

...does this mean I should start? ;) I've never liked the stuff, and I manage to live without caffeine for the most part. (I don't drink soda, either.)

Personally, I find that tea is the way to go, so I hope they have a study that shows it's healthy too.

Re:As a techie who doesn't drink it... (5, Insightful)

prgrmr (568806) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498169)

Some Tea's are higher in caffeine than coffee, so you may not be as caffeine-free as you thought.

Re:As a techie who doesn't drink it... (5, Interesting)

twilight30 (84644) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498246)

I thought teas had theobromine, which was a stronger caffeine relative, not caffeine itself.

In reply to the parent, don't start. Caffeine addiction is one of the most widespread going, and like most habits, most people don't notice their addiction until they can't stop.

My cousin stopped drinking it years ago. Within a month, the bags under his eyes disappeared, probably from the corollary effect of actually going to bed on time.

Unfortunately, I do really like the stuff, so call me a hypocrite...

Re:As a techie who doesn't drink it... (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8498176)

They have been saying tea is healthy for like a billion years now.

Re:As a techie who doesn't drink it... (0, Flamebait)

Threni (635302) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498234)

> I've never liked the stuff, and I manage to live without caffeine for the most
> part.

Depends. If you want to develop and addiction to a drug, and one which causes you to become tense and irritable, and may cause you headaches and trouble sleeping, and which is linked to prostate cancer (it did for Frank Zappa), then go for it - drink a strong cup every morning and take it from there.

Re:As a techie who doesn't drink it... (3, Interesting)

Otter (3800) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498248)

Coffee drinking is like gambling or smoking -- if you don't develop a taste for it, you'll be better off and the only thing you'll miss out on is satisfying cravings you don't have in the first place.

Not that I take any of this to seriously but there's far more evidence for the health value of tea (especially green tea) and the downside is much less.

Re:As a techie who doesn't drink it... (4, Informative)

Gumshoe (191490) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498267)

...does this mean I should start? ;) I've never liked the stuff, and I manage to live without caffeine for the most part. (I don't drink soda, either.)


Personally, I find that tea is the way to go, so I hope they have a study that shows it's healthy too.


Tea contains caffeine too [holymtn.com], although not as much as coffee does [stashtea.com]. This is only partly relevent though as the reported health benefits of coffee isn't entirely due to the caffeine.

Re:As a techie who doesn't drink it... (1)

MindDelay (675385) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498301)

i don't drink coffee or soda either. coffee has a horrible smell and soda makes me feel like my stomach is being torn apart. guess i need to find alternate methods of staying awake :)

Alzheimer's disease (5, Interesting)

derphilipp (745164) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498112)

Yes i read about it in a news magazine, that regular coffee drinkers are not so often in the group of persons who will suffer of the Alzheimer's disease when they are old.

Re:Alzheimer's disease (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8498223)

FYI in Italy everyone (almost) drink coffee but alzheimer is no more widespread than in countries where the coffee habit is less popular.

FYI too the typical Italian coffee cup is a lot stronger than the american beverage with the same name. despite the fake italian lingo used by starbuck - barista, grande, venti (that's "twenty" for you, still have to understand it) and so on, that stuff is really weak and bland compared to what you can drink in Italy.

this said, I hate coffee.

Re:Alzheimer's disease (4, Funny)

fsmunoz (267297) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498251)

Well, I have red the same thing about smokers due to the effect that nicotine has on the dopamin levels.

Since I'm portuguese I drink about 5/6 coffees ("expressos", the only real coffee ;) ) a day. I also smoke about 6 small cigars a day. I'm pretty much Alzheimer free, the only drawback is that I have a higher chance to actually not reach the age when Alzheimer generally appears *sigh*.

Re:Alzheimer's disease (1)

baryon351 (626717) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498281)

No wonder I'm so sane. I used to drink coffee with my parents a great deal, matching them mug for mug. Counting the usual amount I'd have each day tipped me over 20 to 22 a day.

I think that was probably bad

Which is your favourite brand? (0)

Maimun (631984) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498116)

I vote for Lavazza Oro.

Re:Which is your favourite brand? (1)

mahdi13 (660205) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498238)

I just had a coffee from Lavazza this weekend, I have to say they are not bad at all. Not nearly as strong/bitter as Startbucks, and smoother then Carabou...

Re:Which is your favourite brand? (2, Interesting)

Plammox (717738) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498268)

Freshly ground coffee in a coffee press is just dynamite!
Pretty much whatever kind of coffee beans you can get is way better than pre-ground coffee, as it loses a lot of its aroma during the grinding/packaging/etc process.
I certainly didn't regret buying that coffee grinder.

Headache cure (5, Interesting)

michael path (94586) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498124)

I had been using coffee, as well as water, as my preferred headache cure for quite a while.

However, caffiene withdrawl also creates headaches, and the article is a little on the vague side to suggest otherwise.

Most of the other news (antioxidants, tannin, good for the liver, and asthma relief) are pretty awesome, though. Again, I'd rather see this in more details - and I can't find any English links referring to dietician Chiara Trombetti.

Definitely good news for nerds and latte addicts everywhere.

-m.

Re:Headache cure (1)

mahdi13 (660205) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498329)

I agree, I also use coffee to relieve headaches and even calm the occasional asthma (very rare these days for me, so coffee is more practical to have around then keeping an inhailer around and re-freshed when they get too old)...AND coffee sure tastes better then then medication!

Coffee is boring (2, Interesting)

superpulpsicle (533373) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498125)

Is it me or is coffee becoming more and more boring? Even starbucks can't turn me into a coffee drinker again.

Re:Coffee is boring (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8498198)

.. I hope you don't think the same about sex....

Re:Coffee is boring (5, Insightful)

mrscorpio (265337) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498258)

That's because Starbucks is the McDonald's of coffee, and you don't go to McDonald's for its fine cuisine! Go to your nearest independant place near a college campus for better coffee.

Chris

Re:Coffee is boring (4, Interesting)

UpLateDrinkingCoffee (605179) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498332)

Boring? Sure if you are stuck on a black and decker coffee maker and basket filters. You've gotta mix up your brew methods and experience the alchemy of making a good cup of coffee. Try a french press, that can be pretty exciting but hard to clean. One of my favorite methods is the Chorreador de cafe [zurqui.co.cr]. It's the traditional method in Costa Rica where, as far as I'm concerned, the best tasting coffee beans come from.

Oh, it should go without saying that grinding the beans just before you use them is the only way to get exiting coffee. Pre-ground might be convenient, but it loses flavor fast. Also, Starbucks is great for convenience, but I think the quality of their coffee beans has slipped. It's still way better than McDonalds, but you can get a way better cup at home with a little effort.

Hope that helps everyone on the road to exciting coffee!

Well.. (4, Funny)

hookedup (630460) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498126)

The only health benifits I can see at my office would be for my co-workers.

Since it's their health that's in jeopardy if I dont get my coffee.

Oh no! (2, Funny)

DaHat (247651) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498128)

So you mean all these years when I thought I was being healthy and avoiding it... I've been hurting myself? Next you're going to tell me the large amounts of caffeine I don't ingest daily in the form of other beverages is also bad for me... if you'll excuse me though, it's 9:15 and I need to wait up before I get to work... while here at work.

Mmmm.... Coffee... (1, Funny)

jbrelie (322599) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498133)

Ah... I've been waiting for an article just like this to ease that "I should drink less coffee" feeling. Now everytime I have such a foolish thought, I can remind myself that coffee is good for me, and I would be hurting myself if I didn't drink 2.5 gallons a day.

Shpoiled little kidsh (3, Funny)

Stile 65 (722451) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498135)

Dr Trombetti is adamant that a cup of milky coffee could make the ideal start for the next generation of coffee lovers - Italy's drowsy school kids - stimulating their brains ahead of a day that often lasts from 0830 until 1600.

When I wash their age, I wash in shcool from sheven pm the night before to nine pm every shingle day! And I tell you what, shonny, I liked it and didn't need no shtinkin' coffee, no siree! And we didn't have no shtinkin' 24-hour time neither!

Coffee is also a great way to lose weight (2, Interesting)

tdwebste (747947) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498141)

Caffeine is not as strong as ephedrine, but it still works in some what the same way.

If that is not enough a good dose of lack of sleep will make anyone lose weight :)

Re:Coffee is also a great way to lose weight (2, Interesting)

stevesliva (648202) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498182)

Black coffee, I've been told, also has zero calories. Skip the cream and sugar and it's a healthy diet drink.

subjectivity (3, Interesting)

iezhy (623955) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498143)

it's the matter of pros and cons - like for every thing in our lives. some aspect of coffe are good to healt some are bad. thats just the way things are in life :-)

Obviously... (5, Insightful)

UncleBiggims (526644) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498146)

The article says, "It can relieve headaches." Isn't that just plain obvious. Especially considering that the most common headache relieved by coffee is in fact caused by caffeine withdrawl.

Besides that, this article is obviously lacking in supporting information. What did this "scientific" study involve? Was this simply a look at the components of coffee: antioxidants, tannin, etc? Or was it a double blind study that looked at the long term effects of 4 cups a day?

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Re:Obviously... (4, Informative)

dangermouse (2242) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498274)

The article says, "It can relieve headaches." Isn't that just plain obvious. Especially considering that the most common headache relieved by coffee is in fact caused by caffeine withdrawl.

Caffeine can relieve tension headaches, which have nothing to do with caffeine withdrawal. They're caused by overdilation of capillaries in your head, and caffeine (like ibuprofen) is a vasoconstrictor.

Re:Obviously... (1)

Chalybeous (728116) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498310)

It can also cause pretty atrocious headaches. I've had chocolate-covered coffee beans before, and believe me, you do not want to eat more than four or five of those an hour. If you scarf down a whole bag like they were jelly beans, your head will feel like someone's trying to trepan your skull from the inside. Not even aspirin knocked that on the head, and on top of which my heart rate shot up and I got the shakes for about half an hour.

And that was how I learned that - to paraphrase the late, great Jim Croce - you don't tug on Superman's cape, you don't spit into the wind, you don't tug the mask off the ol' Lone Ranger, and you sure as fuck don't abuse anything made from coffee beans. (I wouldn't even try to eat the unroasted fruit that the "bean" comes from - it's rather like a cherry and is over 25 times more potent)

Re:Obviously... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8498364)

Isn't that just plain obvious. Especially considering that the most common headache relieved by coffee is in fact caused by caffeine withdrawl.

Careful with your reasoning.

The most common headache relieved by heroin is in fact caused by heroin withdrawal.

Caffeine withdrawal causes several other effects besides the headache. So does heroin withdrawal. In both cases, returning to the drug can eliminate the headache. However, while caffeine can aid in headache relief not caused by caffeine withdrawal, heroin will not relieve a non-withdrawal headache.

Is this considered a dupe? (1, Offtopic)

Black Rabbit (236299) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498147)

Every so often a news item comes out about the benefits of coffee or whatever, followed by the news item that comes out within weeks that completely contradicts it. Happened before and it will happen again.

And somebody on /. will kick and scream about duplicate stories.

I agree, but define healthy differently. (5, Funny)

still cynical (17020) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498149)

Coffee (preferably espresso) is vital to my health. Of course, I'm thinking more along the lines of preventing a subdural hematoma caused by my forehead slamming onto my desk. Coffee is a great preventative for that.

Consider this (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8498155)

Caffeine is a herbicide. It is potent enough to kill plants. Now why would you want to dump that poison into your body?

Re:Consider this (2, Funny)

colinleroy (592025) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498269)

Because you're not a plant?

Re:Consider this (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8498333)

You're not a plant, but you wouldn't want to ingest the herbicides in common use on lawns everywhere.

yeah, yeah... (2, Funny)

Boing (111813) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498158)

Quick! I haven't had my morning cup of "scientific study that 'proves' what I want to believe". I'm going to be a jittery wreck for the rest of the day if I can't get justification for my ridiculously bad nutritional habits!

Re:yeah, yeah... (2, Funny)

Imperator (17614) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498324)

Pssst... check out my new "bacon and eggs" diet. You can eat as much as you want of steak and chocolate and all that good stuff. Just watch out for bread and pasta...

(I swear, it's a scientific diet! Ignore the giant marketing machine that's profiting from it.)

Prejudiced Generalization (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8498161)

I'm Italian, and I don't drink coffee. And I certainly don't appreciate a story that portrays us (or technies for that matter) as coffee-swillers.

It's really not good journalism to post material like that guys.

Re:Prejudiced Generalization (5, Interesting)

Biotech9 (704202) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498220)

Generalisations are GENERALLY right. There are ALWAYS exceptions.
I used to work in a cafe, and I learnt quick when an american asks for an espresso he wants a small shot of coffee. When an italian asked for an espresso he wanted the first teaspoon of water out of the machine, which was black as night and as strong as tar.
My GENERAL experience with Italians and coffee is that they like it strong enough to strip paint. Just like GENERALLY Irish prefer tea, or nerds prefer jolt.

Re:Prejudiced Generalization (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8498231)

>It's really not good journalism to post material like that guys.

good journalism on slashdot? you must be new here

Re:Prejudiced Generalization (2, Interesting)

fsmunoz (267297) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498322)

I'm Italian, and I don't drink coffee. And I certainly don't appreciate a story that portrays us (or technies for that matter) as coffee-swillers.

Dude, the fact remains that in the last Euro statistics I have red Italians were #1 household coffe drinkers ("expresso") and Portuguese were #1 out-of-house coffee drinkers (also "expresso").

Look at it this way: you might not drink coffee, but at least enjoy with the fact that if you did drink it you would be able to drink good one and not some creamed-watered-gigatic-soup-like mess.

Coffee, beer, what's next? (3, Funny)

vijayiyer (728590) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498168)

Cool. Coffee is now good for you. Beer (and any other form of alcohol) is good for you. Now I just need to find out bacon is healthy too, and maybe I'll be less likely to get a heart attack!

Re:Coffee, beer, what's next? (1)

jspayne (98716) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498316)

Now I just need to find out bacon is healthy too...

Um, heard of the Atkins Diet [atkins.com]? More and more evidance is showing that blood cholesterol is produced by the liver when blood sugar is high, not from eating it. Most people on the Atkins Diet see an improvement in HDL/LDL ratio, and a dramatic reduction in triglycerides.

Re:Coffee, beer, what's next? (1)

SpyPlane (733043) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498336)

According to all the Atkins/Southbeach/idiot diets out there, bacon IS good for you. It's got NO carbs whatsoever!! So eat away my friend!

Relieving headaches (5, Interesting)

asit+ler (688945) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498178)

I've found that post-migrane consumption of coffee helps me out a lot. Perhaps this is an excuse to start drinking the stuff like water.

Dark-roasted coffee is "better" than medium (4, Interesting)

csoto (220540) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498184)

Don't forget that the longer coffee beans are roasted, any coffee brewed from them will have less caffeine. Of course, darker roasted coffee tends to be more bitter and possibly more acidic (especially true of steam-brewed coffees, such as espresso). But, the tiny bit of acid and tannins in coffee is probably nothing compared to the damage done by caffeine (hey, I'm an addict - I live with it).

E' allora? (And so?) (5, Insightful)

twilight30 (84644) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498196)

Keep in mind that an Italian saying coffee is good for you -- even with the disclaimer that she personally hates it -- only goes so far.

I like it too, and I consume loads here in Italy -- but she has a vested interest in saying that espresso is the best of all types to drink.

Why? Because you really have to try hard to find 'long coffee' or caffe' americano here. It's almost impossible. I remember a year ago watching a French girl flip her lid at some poor barista because he couldn't understand that she wanted the 'long coffee' instead of the syrupy stuff. And she was shouting at him in English, which was most amusing. She'd have had more success using French...

Also, no other nationality fetishises food to the extent the Italians do. I'll leave it there.

I RTFA (4, Informative)

chia_monkey (593501) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498197)

I read the article and it's just too damn short. "It COULD do this and it COULD do that". "It has anti-oxidants and that's good". Well duh. It also has caffeine which some health nuts say is good for you (raises metabolism, messes with your appetite, gives you energy to work out) and it can be bad for you (making you dependent on it, screwin' with your metabolism, etc). Coffee also supposedly messes with your cortisol levels (which is partly responsible for giving the fat gathering around the waist area).

My point is, you'll see reports say it's healthy, you'll see reports say it's bad for you. I've seen more detailed reports saying it's bad and just a few "well it could be good for you" reports saying it's good.

Shall we discuss if wine is good or bad for us now?

Did you see the related articles? (5, Interesting)

bobdinkel (530885) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498294)

Civet Coffeee--made from coffe beans that have been partially digested and excreted by the Civet (of SARS fame). Read more here [bbc.co.uk]. Freaky.

In Other News... (1)

geekpuppySEA (724733) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498200)

Heroin touted as "Beauty Elixir."

(Let's all remember our junkie lessons from John Waters' movie Female Trouble, where they're shooting up in one scene: " 'Liquid eyeliner', taken internally, enhances one's beauty awareness." Bah, hahahaah!)

oh, fortune (1)

REBloomfield (550182) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498202)

I've just been told to ditch all caffiene and salt after having a blood pressure reading of 156/100 up from 130/90 at Christmas. But I do drink the stuff excessively. Will have to show this to my health nurse.... :) am currently eating lots of nuts and juice in an effort to ditch a few pounds (am not fat! just technically overwieght) and bring the blood pressure down....

Only 3 or 4 cups a day? (1)

mahdi13 (660205) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498203)

Guess I'm screwed with the 3 or 4 pots a day I consume!

I can quit anytime...I do not have a problem!

Atkins lovers/Atkins haters = boozers/benefits (4, Interesting)

adzoox (615327) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498205)

Ya know, a study comes out every other week that something that has been reported bad is now good. Rest assured a story will come out within a week or two - "lawsuit filed against Maxwell House for cancer causing contaminents in coffee - lawyers say, all cofee might be affected."

Same thing as the Atkins Diet - Animal Rights groups didn't like The Atkins Diet - protein = meat - so they put out a bogus study that Atkins died because of Atkins.

Same thing happen with beer/alchohol - one week a study will come out that says beer is bad, next week "binge drinking" is epidemic or drunk driving is on the rise.

When stories are reported like this it should be a requirement for the journalist to cite the sources and the backgrounds of those sources should be published in the footnotes so "true thinkers" can easily pick up on propoganda.

Is there any news here? (3, Insightful)

Otter (3800) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498207)

Perhaps I missed it, but was there any actual finding being reported here? Surely the BBC has more important news to cover than "Italian dietician thinks coffee is healthy in moderation!"?

If not, they can feel free to give me a call and I'll be glad to hold forth on my semi-informed views on all sorts of things.

caffeine can kill you (1)

shaunyb (646779) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498218)

caffeine can kill you if you have an ulcer in you stomach. of course, the chances are about 1 in a billion. pot smokers know this. they have built up a defense that includes figuring out all the common foods that can kill you.

raw potatoes can kill you too. that one's a lot more common.

3 or 4 a day?!! (2, Funny)

pair-a-noyd (594371) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498222)

Oh good, I'm in the clear! Wheh!
I usually stop at 3 pots a day myself.

Wait a minute, what's this? CUPS! CUPS!!
Shit! I thought they said POTS!

Damn rtfa stuff again...

I won't read the article. (1)

teamhasnoi (554944) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498232)

Wasn't coffee good, then bad for you, then good, then good for battling heart disease, then caused brain tumors, then would help you live longer, then....

I know what the short term effects of coffee are, and right now I like them. I can't keep up with what is in the good and bad columns - I eat and drink pretty much what I want, when I want it. I trust my body to let me know what I need, say when I crave oranges. I'll eat them.

It could be argued that no matter what you do, eat, or drink, you're going to die. I just try for moderation. Except for the smooth taste of Mercury. Oh that silvery stuff is refreshing and irresistable! And what a compliment to Lead!

As wine also features ... (2, Funny)

burgburgburg (574866) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498235)

tannin and antioxidants and many health benefits, is it so wrong of me to mix the two and drink my espresso/wine drink approximately every fifteen minutes from the time I wake up to the time I ...try to go to sleep? Why won't my wife/ex-boss/judge understand I'm doing this for my health?!?

if coffee is health food (1)

enrico_suave (179651) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498236)

Heroin is a happy hour cocktail...

Every other month a new study says, "Eggs are bad... Eggs are good" "salt is bad... salt is good" "Beer is good for you... beer is bad"
"coffee is good... coffee is bad"

Everything causes cancer (not sure who to attribute that saying to)...

I surrender!

e.

Hyphens (1)

Delirium Tremens (214596) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498243)

That's - if I may - is a very nice article. It's a little too heavy on the hyphens - if you see what I mean.
A dash annoying - I would say.

best quote of the article (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8498247)

Many parents might be horrified at the thought.

But Dr Trombetti is adamant that a cup of milky coffee could make the ideal start for the next generation of coffee lovers - Italy's drowsy school kids - stimulating their brains ahead of a day that often lasts from 0830 until 1600.

I doubt my wife would agree with the doctor. heck, instead of buying expensive drugs for ADD, just give you kid some good coffee.

Coffee != hot water (5, Funny)

l0wland (463243) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498250)

And coffee, dear American /.-readers, is NOT the hot water in which a sole coffeebean did some skinny dipping, like the stuff you regularly tend to find in the US. Order a triple espresso at Starbuck's, and then you might know what coffee should taste like. ;)

So if you want to have the same results in the US, you can easily drink 3 times the amount mentioned in the Italian report.

Re:Coffee != hot water (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8498302)

well, I wouldn't get a triple expresso in starbucks. I'm a regular starbucks drinker (twice a day). The starbucks french roast is OK, but it's nothing to scream about. I'd much rather get a real Italian or French roast and just have a good expresso or real latte. All things considered, Starbucks is way better than the alternative. Dunkin Doughnuts for example is more sugar than coffe and is totally horrible. Now new englanders drink that DD coffee is beyond me. Personally, an authentic Vietnamnese ice coffee rocks. Thai ice coffee is good too. That's some really strong and flavorful stuff.

Re:Coffee != hot water (1)

kennedy (18142) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498320)

It's really not hard to order your coffee sans sugar from Dunks.

maybe if you were retarded it might be kinda tough, but most normal people do have the ability to clearly say "no sugar please".

And didn't we just see an opposite view... (4, Interesting)

geekpuppySEA (724733) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498253)

Who's submitting THIS one, reps from Seattle's Best? (which I despise even worse than starbucks or tully's, BTW.) [newscientist.com]

(Initial text of the article:)

Coffee-breaks sabotage employees' abilities

18:41 13 February 04 NewScientist.com news service Taking a coffee break at work may actually sabotage employees' ability to do their jobs and undermine teamwork instead of boosting it, suggests new research. Dosing up on caffeine is particularly unhelpful to men, disrupting their emotions and hampering their ability to do certain tasks, suggests a report by psychologists Lindsay St Claire and Peter Rogers at Bristol University in the UK. Many people take coffee breaks at work believing this will reduce their feelings of stress. But theories about the effects of caffeine are conflicting. Some studies suggest caffeine can worsen anxiety and trigger stress, while others show it boosts confidence, alertness and sociability, making certain tasks easier. But this latest report, released by the UK's Economic and Social Research Council on Friday, backs the view that coffee exacerbates stress, especially in men, and makes people less co-operative when working in teams. "Our research findings suggest that the commonplace tea or coffee break might backfire in business situations, particularly where men are concerned," says St Claire. "Far from reducing stress, it might actually make things worse."

ok and now that I've RTFA... (1)

geekpuppySEA (724733) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498298)

Gack what a fluff piece that is. I notice there's NOTHING about the effect long-term use can have on your kidney (not that I'm quoting any source, I'm just sayin'.)

Personal experience. (1)

gilgo_22 (460990) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498255)


It is good for the liver - and can help prevent cirrhosis and gallstones.


When in the middle of gradschool I decided that I was drinking too much coffee (silly me), I started having gallstone problems...

I overdosed on coffee once (4, Interesting)

Zog The Undeniable (632031) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498283)

Red face, palpitations, slight paranoia and bizarrely, extreme short-sightedness (I normally have 20-20 vision). Wore off after 3-4 hours but it was scary as hell.

Body and mind (4, Interesting)

pubjames (468013) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498290)


Some things are healthy for the body, some things are healthy for the mind, and what's good for the body is not necessarily good for the mind and vice-versa.

For instance, during my finals at university getting blindingly drunk at the weekends was probably very bad for my body, but it really helped my mind. It got rid of the stress and I felt fresh again going back to my study. I'm not joking, I think it really helped.

It's like some people can't function properly unless they've had a coffee or a ciggie. May not be healthy for their body, but it helps their mind function.

all things in moderation (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8498312)

health drink [kombucha.org] since around 225 b.c..

YOU BET ITS A HEALTH DRINK (3, Funny)

coldtone (98189) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498330)

Is VERY VERY Healthy for everyONE IN MY OFFICE THAT I GET TO HAVE MY GODDAMN COFFEE, AND DON'T BUG ME TILL (sip) I'm done. Because I'm a much calmer reasonable person after I've had my little cup of happiness.

Hangover partial cure (1)

Gr8Apes (679165) | more than 10 years ago | (#8498335)

Coffee (or soda) is a great part of the solution to hangovers. No more than 1-2 servings though, coupled with some Vitamin E and a good dose of B-complex, a little starch and fat if you really overdid it, and 15 minutes later, you start feeling human again.
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