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'Brain Pacemakers' Being Tested

simoniker posted more than 10 years ago | from the jolt-to-the-synapses dept.

Biotech 352

meshmar writes "Shades of 'The Terminal Man'? Rob Stein of The Washington Post has reported, via MSNBC, that: 'A handful of scientists around the world have begun cautiously experimenting with devices implanted in patients' bodies to deliver precisely targeted electrical stimulation to the brain in hopes of treating otherwise hopeless behavioral, neurological and psychiatric disorders.' A lot of good can come out of this - potentially. But I can see a the potential for misuse too."

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nah, probably not. (4, Insightful)

garcia (6573) | more than 10 years ago | (#8500970)

Shades of 'The Terminal Man'?

According to the novel a man with "psychomotor epilepsy" was severely hurting/killing people w/no memories of the events. He was implanted with some sort of device that shocked areas of his brain and stopped the seizures before they happened. The doctors chose an area of the brain that was the pleasure center. The brain began CAUSING seizures to get the shocks.

So, as long as they don't put the shocks into the pleasure centers this should work out! Sci-fi for the masses!

Note: I am only basing this on the book. IANANS (neurosurgeon).

Re:nah, probably not. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8501020)

The possiblities are astounding! Buy a Microsoft product, get an orgasm!

Re:nah, probably not. (1)

Thud457 (234763) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501163)

That's not what the CIA, err, aliens told me it was for!!!

Re:nah, probably not. (5, Funny)

Otter (3800) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501172)

So, as long as they don't put the shocks into the pleasure centers this should work out!

I think the concern is that people would do precisely that. After all, it happened on both Futurama *and* the Simpsons, so naturally it's of grave concern to the Slashdot editors.

Re:nah, probably not. (5, Insightful)

woohoodonuts (734070) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501225)

Moreover, researchers say, the treatment has the advantage of being able to be simply turned off or removed if it does not work or if problems occur.
Nevertheless, the research arouses fears of reviving the reckless use of brain surgery, about the wisdom of poking around in what some consider the font of a person's humanity, about oversimplifying mental illness as a purely biological problem, and the temptation to move too quickly to try out new technologies.

and then I read this
A lot of good can come out of this - potentially. But I can see a the potential for misuse too.

My question is this: what technology has been created in the past that COULD NOT have potentially been misused? Sure, you invented a pencil... a whole lot of good could come from this--but some dejected office worker could jam it in someone's ear too...

This technology has the potential to be fantastic. Sure, a crazy mad scientist somewhere could definitely mess someone up pretty bad with this stuff--but how many medical procedures are already performed now where the doctor Doesn't have to power to seriously mess the patient up?

I support this technology... Yeah, sure... Doctor's may be able to kill someone with it... but they also may just run someone over on the sidewalk driving home. And before anyone starts ranting about thousands of armies full of pacemaker brain-people... cut me a break. (although it would probably make a pretty cool book) There's too many things that are not directly related to science for that to happen... so the argument isnt' exactly with the science but with the implementation of it... There are more holes... also, but they're not on-topic to this discussion....

Give science a break... this stuff could save lives and help out a lot of people.

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Re:FP scripts are for homos and homos ONLY (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8501004)

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Re:FP scripts are for homos and homos ONLY (-1)

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Re:The GNAA Presents another FP! (-1)

Proctal Relapse (467579) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501025)

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Oh yea. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8500983)

I'd be more than happy to stimulate your brain via electric shock. Please contact me so that I can help you out anonymouscoward@127.0.0.1

Clockwork Orange comes to life (4, Interesting)

Gr8Apes (679165) | more than 10 years ago | (#8500988)

in a kinder, more gentle way. Instead of causing huge pain in reformed criminals when they hear music, you can now just give them "corrective shocks" for the misbehaving brain segment! Next, we'll all be stepping in lock-step....

weirder news comes to mind... (3, Funny)

segment (695309) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501158)

Things look far more frightening, in fact. Genetic weapons could do more than destroy an ethnic group. They could kill according to a person's 'usefulness' or 'talents'. American journalist and bestselling author Thom Hartmann has argued that it would even be possible to kill those with the gene for attention deficit disorder. This means that if you are easily distracted and have a hard time concentrating (there could be other selection criteria as well), you could end up marked for destruction. The Mark of Doom [politrix.org] Finally! A solution for those trolls

Re:Clockwork Orange comes to life (4, Informative)

geekee (591277) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501251)

I think you misunderstood the book, or have oversimplified it. He was conditioned to feel ill when thinking about pychotic behavior using drugs. However, one of the movies used to condition him used Beethoven's 9th, which he then became ill when hearing. The govt. removed the conditioning because it was determined that the rights of this pychopath were violated since he could no longer enjoy Beethoven.

So the question is (1)

Em Emalb (452530) | more than 10 years ago | (#8500992)

Would you use your brain pacemaker for good or for awesome?

I know just who to test this on (3, Funny)

ageoffri (723674) | more than 10 years ago | (#8500993)

Daryl McBride. There has to be something wrong with his brain and some nice little shocks couldn't hurt him.

Re:I know just who to test this on (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8501051)

For Christ sake, if you are going to insult someone, at least spell his name correctly.

online reservation NOW. I mean *NOW*. (2, Funny)

tasinet (747465) | more than 10 years ago | (#8500997)

Reserve one, under the name George W. Bush. He'll need a lot of boosting in that section. Thank you.

Re:online reservation NOW. I mean *NOW*. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8501053)

Ya, but wouldn't he actually need to have a brain to implant this thing in for it to be of any use to him?

Battle Field Earth (5, Funny)

spribyl (175893) | more than 10 years ago | (#8500998)

Didn't the bad dudes in Battle Field Earth have implants that caused them to be extra agressive and bad actors.

Re:Battle Field Earth (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8501096)

Perhaps a better question would be, who actually watched Battlefield Earth?

Re:Battle Field Earth (0)

leon.gandalf (752828) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501233)

I though they left that bit out of the Movie? The book was good. Please don't mix them up.

Re:Battle Field Earth (1)

trmj (579410) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501236)

I believe you mean Starship Troopers.

And the writers for both had the same implants, but for the writing instead of the acting.

Re:Battle Field Earth (1)

gregfortune (313889) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501256)

That's what they wanted you to think. In truth, it was just the coffee.

WTF? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8501000)

Does this mean no more epilectic/laughing gas hilarity?

no good. (3, Funny)

Quasar1999 (520073) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501001)

Trust me, I speak from experience... I've electricuted myself enough times to know that only bad things come of passing electricity through the brain via outside stimulus... (notice my horrible spelling, contrary to popular belief, I used to be good at spelling until I decided to staple a live electrical wire...)

Re:no good. (3, Informative)

Monkelectric (546685) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501120)

Actually for SEVERE depression electric shocks can be a treatment. It is considered a last resort though. For some patients its the only thing that does any good. I recall seeing a 20/20 about it. They shock you in a controlled environment, and the treatments effects last anywhere from a few weeks to a few months. The guy they interviewed was unresponsive to meds but got some relief from the shock treatments.

Re:no good. (1)

manWorkSucks (745760) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501224)

i doubt you've electrocuted [m-w.com] yourself before. perhaps you gave yourself an electric shock?

Tin Foil (0)

halo8 (445515) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501002)

All Tin Foil posts can under this Thread

Re:Tin Foil (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8501114)

i'd hate to see what happens when you use this device WITH a tinfoil hate, i mean the foil conducts electricity right? if the device is malfunctioning it could create a huge spark that fries all of your hair, which as we know helps to stop the government from reading your head where you have the tattoo's of secret numbers

Re:Tin Foil (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8501223)

I forget, is this the proper hiearchy:

psychiatrists - CIA - NAZIs - illuminati - aliens - fallen angels

Someone has to say it... (0, Redundant)

orion024 (694922) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501006)

Time to invest in tin foil!

Harrison Bergeron Anyone (2, Interesting)

nordic2001 (685067) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501007)

Yikes.

http://penguinppc.org/~hollis/personal/bergeron. sh tml

A good thing (2, Funny)

g0bshiTe (596213) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501009)

This would be a good thing. If I had an implant I could program my computer at work to monitor my brainwaves. When they showed I was asleep my system could give me a little wake up jolt.

"3M We don't make your brain. We make it better."

Re:A good thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8501103)

I think you meant 'At BASF we dont make blah blah..."

Though I stll have no idea what BASF is, but I've seen their commercials.

BASF... (2, Informative)

GAVollink (720403) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501240)

Way back (late 70s) BASF was well known for manufacturing really cheap - marginal quality cassette tapes. They are a "chemicals" conglomerate, like Dow Corning, or S.C.Johnson.

Just now, I realise that nobody is likely to care, but I answered the question already, so I'm posting the answer anyway.

uh-oh (0)

slim hades (703936) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501011)

great.. now when I go to use the microwave, i can forget my name, shit my pants, and curb my homicidal tendancies at the same time...

Re:uh-oh (0)

loserbert (697119) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501139)

So, life as usual right??

V-Chip? (5, Funny)

MalaclypseTheYounger (726934) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501012)

Dr. Vosknocker: Now, I want you to say "doggy".
Cartman: Doggy.
Dr. Vosknocker: [to audience] Notice, that nothing happens. [to Cartman] Now, say "montana".
Cartman: Montana.
Dr. Vosknocker: Good. Now, "pillow".
Cartman: Pillow.
Dr. Vosknocker: Alright. Now I want you to say "horse f*cker".
Mrs. Cartman: Go on, honey. It's alright.
Cartman: Horse fu-- [gets shocked by the V-chip] That hurts, god damn it!
[gets shocked again]
Dr. Vosknocker: Now I want you to say "big floppy donkey dick".
Cartman: No!
Dr. Vosknocker: [to audience] Success! The child doesn't want to swear!
Cartman: This isn't fair, you sons of bi--
[gets shocked repeatedly]

Re:V-Chip? (0)

Dinath33 (752244) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501184)

Haha, I am assuming the length of the post is why it took 3 minutes to post this. If this wasn't the first thing to pop into your head, you should go rent the South Park Movie and educate yourself.

you will be assimilated (1)

Jotaigna (749859) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501013)

Prosthetics will evolve from simple mimmicks for limbs to fully functional devices that will help improving life quality for may persons. You just have to plug this in your shoulder, wear this on your ear and....psst pssst....pssst....you are assimilated.

Put Down That Twinkie! (4, Funny)

druske (550305) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501015)

"...researchers have begun testing on monkeys to see whether the devices might suppress appetite, and perhaps boost metabolism, in obese people..."
"Eat less or we'll CUT YOUR SKULL OPEN AND STICK A CHIP IN YOUR HEAD!"

Yeah, I think that would suppress my appetite...

Are we losing something in all of this (3, Insightful)

Ckwop (707653) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501016)

I wonder if the progress of science in treating "mental illness" is potentially reducing the creativity of our race.

It's long been know that genius is "in bed" with madness.

Some of these "mad" people probably aren't mad at all.. they're just rather odd but that oddity gives can give them brilliant insight!

Simon.

All we have to lose is our urban myths (2, Interesting)

HarveyBirdman (627248) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501196)

It's long been know that genius is "in bed" with madness.

No, it has NOT "long been known" that genius is in bed with madness. IQ has never significantly correleated with any mental disorders.

However, mental illness DOES correleate well with poverty.

And any correleation between mental illness and creativity is clearly and demostratably false. These illnesses are most often a serious disability to people with otherwise normal intelligence and creativity. To suggest to these people that it's some sort of boon would be cruel.

Some of these "mad" people probably aren't mad at all.. they're just rather odd but that oddity gives can give them brilliant insight!

No rational person would ever suggest that mere eccentricity is a mental illness.

Southpark... (1)

SealBeater (143912) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501021)

Ever see the movie Southpark? Remember the device that zapped Cartman
everytime he cursed? I wonder how long, given human nature, something like
this is used for evil purposes. I don't mean to cast a shadow over what could
be a very worthy achivement, but it behooves us to properly consider the
possible...adverse reprocussions.

SealBeater

Re:Southpark... (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8501157)

Only on slashdot would someone try to make a serious point and use South Park as an example.

No No No, they can't put one in MEEEE!!! (1, Funny)

rock_climbing_guy (630276) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501023)

Oh God no, I'll never let them put one of their mind control thingies in me. I swear, if I ever found out that they tried to put something like that in my head, I would take their stupid implant and#FA3T32FEAFf3#r325[NO CARRIER]

Re:No No No, they can't put one in MEEEE!!! (1)

Valdrax (32670) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501214)

I would take their stupid implant and#FA3T32FEAFf3#r325[NO CARRIER] ...and, what -- pick your handset off of your acoustically-coupled modem?

I've got one of those (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8501024)

Unfortunately they gave me the one, by Microsoft. Keeps rebooting me and those blue deaths are terrible... other than that, the world is pretty XP for me...

strangely related... (3, Insightful)

segment (695309) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501031)

This is your brain on DARPA. any questions?

DARPA researchers are also at work on the "Brain Machine Interface" ("neuromics") project, designed as a mind/machine interface, allowing mechanical devices to be controlled via thought-power. Thus far, researchers have taught a monkey to move a computer mouse and a telerobotic arm simply by thinking about it. With arrays of up to 96 electrodes implanted in their brains, the animals are able to reach for food with a robotic arm. Researchers even transmitted the signals over the internet, allowing remote control of an robotic arm 600 miles away. In the future they hope to develop a "non-invasive interface" for human use. Says DARPA, "The long-term Defense implications of finding ways to turn thoughts into acts, if it can be developed, are enormous: imagine U.S. warfighters that only need use the power of their thoughts to do things at great distances." For years, the U.S. military has been improving its ability to reach out and kill someone. What's the mantra of the future? Maybe, if you think it, they will die. Wild weapons of DARPA [politrix.org]

ha! (5, Funny)

WormholeFiend (674934) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501033)

they can have control over my brain when they pry it out of my cold, dead skull!

Re:ha! (1)

WhodoVoodoo (319477) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501146)

Oh, we've been planning to do just that for quite a while now.

Can you say 'Zombie Warriors'? Go, my childeren of the night! Take his brain!

Re:ha! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8501148)

they can have control over my brain when they pry it out of my cold, dead skull!

That can be arranged. [dagonbytes.com]

Interesting (2, Funny)

SteveXE (641833) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501036)

Hi im ::ZAP!:: Steve, dont mind ::ZAP!:: me i use to ::ZAP!:: suffer from anxiety atta ::ZAP!:: cks. Now i just ::ZAP!:: stutter.

Zzzzzt! (1)

Faust7 (314817) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501039)

devices implanted in patients' bodies to deliver precisely targeted electrical stimulation to the brain

Yeah, they should watch the resistor values in that thing very very carefully.

Re:Zzzzzt! (1)

Endive4Ever (742304) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501264)

When I worked in the medical device field awhile back, we were putting 1% tolerance reisistors on the logic pullups to the Microprocessor.

(this might seem to make little or no sense at all, there are a few reasons it's not that idiotic, mainly having to do with knowing to a very close tolerance how much current a device will consume. Plus the cost of including both 5% and 1% resistors of a similar value in inventory is more expensive than just using 1% parts everywhere.)

Can we get these for Slashdot editors? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8501041)

You know, to stimulate the part of the brain that would think to check for dupes and obvious spelling errors.

South Park V-Chip? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8501046)

C'mon.. you know you have seen that episode.... Imagine children runing around getting shocked every time they utter a curse... o-yea....

Dance Mailman! (1, Funny)

hoggoth (414195) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501050)

Dance mailman, dance!
zzzzzap!

good and misuse (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8501055)

A lot of good can come out of this - potentially. But I can see a the potential for misuse too.

Nearly anything can be misused to harm. It seems that things with the most potential for good can have them most potential for misuse as well.

"brain attack" (1)

peter303 (12292) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501056)

Slightly off-topic, but some doctors use the term "brain attack" to refer to a cerebral stroke. This term better reflects are quick and serious strokes are.

Why do I... (1, Funny)

WegianWarrior (649800) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501057)

...get this urge to build a large electromagnet and aim at the head of someone with this implant? Just for the 'scientific value' off course *evil smile*

Re:Why do I... (0)

exspecto (513607) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501161)

And here I always thought fear was the mindkiller...

noozflash! (4, Insightful)

HarveyBirdman (627248) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501061)

But I can see a the potential for misuse too."

Gee. Ya think?

Can we once and for all just declare that ANYTHING can be misued and be done with it? It's not exactly secret Jedi lore.

Re:noozflash! (4, Insightful)

lukewarmfusion (726141) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501149)

Yeah, some things just happen to be more easily misused. For example:

A fork can kill a person.
A bomb can kill a person.

Don't you think that such concerns are more warranted when someone builds a new kind of bomb than when they build a new kind of fork?

This is a great little device that obviously has abuse written all over it. Even the good guys look at this and cringe. Such devices might look good on paper (or in a controlled lab) but I sure as hell don't want them anywhere else.

Re:noozflash! (1)

G27 Radio (78394) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501167)

On Slashdot, potential misuses of new technology are always brought up. It's not a bad thing either, because if there is a way to abuse a new tech, someone will try to do it.

That's my point (1)

HarveyBirdman (627248) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501237)

I'm sorry, it's just a peeve of mine. It should be a given, especially around here, that ANYTHING can be abused.

Now if someone wants to suggest a particular and likely abuse for discussion, fine.

Re:noozflash! (1)

ajs (35943) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501216)

Can we once and for all just declare that ANYTHING can be misued

There are degrees of misuse. Yes, a hammer can be used to build a nuclear weapon (well, not really, but you get the idea).

But this technique on the other hand practically invites misuse. Psycotherapy has moved from being a field that was primarily oriented around counseling to a field first-and-foremost about medication. To that particular fox, the hen-house we now present is a tool for electrically modifying mood or stimulus response.

This technology SHOULD be a good thing, but cautious application of the Hipocratic Oath isn't exactly something that this field is known for.

I don't think it's out of line to point out the potential for abuse.

Heroin, crack, ain't got nuthin' (1, Insightful)

Sean Clifford (322444) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501062)

Heroin, crack, ain't got nuthin' on a street hack of this, buddy.

Indeed! (4, Funny)

AIX-Hood (682681) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501063)

I've been a victiZZZZZT ... beneficiary of this technology and I would like to say it has brought me nothing but extreme paiZZZZZZT ... joy as I see that other people may now implanted with this horrifiZZZZZZZZZTTTT ... hopeful device.

Who needs implants? (0)

DR SoB (749180) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501066)

They can control your mind from satellites so who needs the implants?

I wonder if this could somehow help me out at the casino? :)

Technology (5, Interesting)

DrugCheese (266151) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501067)

Any technology can be used for good or evil. A board with a nail through it can be the beginning of a house for the homeless, or an instrument to bloody someone to death.

I'm a huge fan of new technology and was wondering when someone would start to broach this area. I've read several pages of different universities [cornell.edu] that were playing with this including my favorite Caltech [caltech.edu] . This is great as it's a step away from just having the patient hardwired into a computer system.

Re:Technology (1)

S3D (745318) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501249)

This is great as it's a step away from just having the patient hardwired into a computer system. You mean upload patient brain into computer, debug, and download back ? Brain debugging to replace psychiatry !

Stimulate the pleasure centers! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8501075)

This will get out of hand when you can get
an implant for $599 that stimulates the pleasure
centers on demand, possibly tied to your latest
VR-based game console. Now, just add some
viagra and....

Re:Stimulate the pleasure centers! (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8501268)

Yes! Now all we will need to do is starting writing a "driver" that will emulate the effects of THC. :) ::starts coding like mad::

There are FOUR LIGHTS!!!! (2, Funny)

ghettoboy22 (723339) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501078)

OK so my first reaction brings back memories of a naked Patrick Stewart but I digress....

Didn't Crichton write a book about this? (0, Redundant)

irritating environme (529534) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501083)

Some psychopath being treated with a pleasure center stimulator.

Unfortunately, he built up resistance and eventually the thing did nothing, and exacerbated his condition, and he went on a killing spree.

Granted its fiction, but it seems at least passably grounded in science.

Re:Didn't Crichton write a book about this? (1)

gregfortune (313889) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501202)

Dude... Don't bother reading the article, but at least skim the /. blurb. The book is called The Terminal Man.

Star trek has these... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8501085)

Cortical stimulator, STAT!

Hope (1)

schnits0r (633893) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501087)

So there *IS* hope for my exgirlfriend to get a working funcitonal brain?

Quick diagnosis... (2, Funny)

Faust7 (314817) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501090)

"You've got the crazies. I prescribe 5 milliamps every 3 hours."

Tres cool ! (1)

whovian (107062) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501093)

Acupuncture for the brain, the heart, ....

but... (1)

Savatte (111615) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501097)

hopeless behavioral, neurological and psychiatric disorders

But this is the exact reason why we love some of our favorite celebrities! And they are the people who can afford it.

Ok, so far (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8501100)

from what I've read posted, everyone gets a +5 Funny mod!
Keep up the laughs for this dreary Monday morning guys!

Report to the nearest tripod... (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8501105)

...for your capping.

Terminal man? How about Harrison Bergeron? (5, Interesting)

david_reese (460043) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501106)

Great short story [penguinppc.org] by Kurt Vonnegut. From the first few paragraphs:

Some things about living still weren't quite right, though. April for instance, still drove people crazy by not being springtime. And it was in that clammy month that the H-G men took George and Hazel Bergeron's fourteen-year-old son, Harrison, away.

It was tragic, all right, but George and Hazel couldn't think about it very hard. Hazel had a perfectly average intelligence, which meant she couldn't think about anything except in short bursts. And George, while his intelligence was way above normal, had a little mental handicap radio in his ear. He was required by law to wear it at all times. It was tuned to a government transmitter. Every twenty seconds or so, the transmitter would send out some sharp noise to keep people like George from taking unfair advantage of their brains.

Potential for misuse? (3, Insightful)

mal0rd (323126) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501118)

I really doubt this has much potential for misuse. Whatever misuse I can think of there is an easier method already invented. I mean if you let somebody stick an electronic gismo into your body you probably are desperate or out of your mind enough to submit to most anything. That comment by the poster really needs to be backed up. Until this it's just typical slashdot ramblings.

Moderating-Metamoderating (1)

ackthpt (218170) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501119)

in hopes of treating otherwise hopeless behavioral, neurological and psychiatric disorders.'

Moderating-Metamoderating for the average person on the street!

"Buggerit!"
BZZT!
"Millenium hand and shrimp!"

Epileptic Stimulator (4, Interesting)

Br0therShin (760273) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501140)

Yeah, They have these for people with epilepsy. they stimulate the Vagus Nerve by sending periodic shocks.. I guess the idea is to set some regularity for the brain to base by.. but does anyone else think its dangerous to send shocks into nerves? Wouldent the heart be impacted etc?

Misuse? (2, Insightful)

friendofafriend (602350) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501147)

But I can see a the potential for misuse too

Come on, do you really think that? How many deaths from intentional frying of heart pacemakers have there been?

Re:Misuse? (2, Interesting)

JeanBaptiste (537955) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501219)

well the first thing I thought of was... (recreational) drugs. think (rec)drugs mess up your mind now, wait till we get electronic computerized drugs...

*Zap* (5, Funny)

whitelabrat (469237) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501155)

I have a brain pacemaker and it sucks...*ZAP*

I mean they're fantastic.

Some hopeless disorders they are trying to fix... (1)

stienman (51024) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501175)

"treating otherwise hopeless behavioral,
Desire to check email "one last time" before bed

neurological
Thinking of the internet as a living entity with rights of its own, or less drastically as existing in a different legal space than 'the big blue box'

and psychiatric disorders"
Software is imbued with a desire to be free.

-Adam

How ironic (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8501179)

"A lot of good can come out of this - potentially. But I can see a the potential for misuse too."

It's pretty ironic that the editor is paranoid about a procedure to cure paranoia.

What they are testing this on... (0, Troll)

JavaLord (680960) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501182)

This kitten sure doesn't look happy [novivisezione.org]

but hey, if it can get all these people off prozac and bring my heath insurance price down I'm all for hooking the kittens up to serial ports or whatever to experement.

(yeah, I know that doesn't have the right pins to be a serial port..geek!)

Where can I get one? (1)

TheRealMindChild (743925) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501203)

For my wife...

upgrades? (1)

rjelks (635588) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501217)

Maybe this technology will pave the way for other brain modifications. Maybe they could improve memory and thought in people. Could it be a future without computer monitors? /still afraid of OnStar

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The brain in my head? (1)

scottennis (225462) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501226)

T. F. Gumby: Are you the brain specialist?

Specialist: No, no, I am not the brain specialist. No, no, I am not... Yes. Yes I am.

Practical Applications (1)

Zone-MR (631588) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501232)

This may deliver precisely coordinated jolts of electricity upon detecting reduced brain activity...

Finally a device which will stop me falling asleep during those boring meetings ;)

Article Repost? (1)

Spunk (83964) | more than 10 years ago | (#8501269)

I can't read the article. For some reason this usually happens with MSN sites. I doubt I'm the only one, so could someone post it here?
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