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Mandrakelinux 10.0 Community Ready For Download

timothy posted more than 10 years ago | from the critics-be-damned dept.

Mandriva 336

joestar writes "The new Mandrakelinux 10.0 Community has just showed up on Mandrake's FTP mirrors and through Bittorrent. MandrakeClub Members benefit from extra CDs downloads and even a DVD ISO for Corporate Memberships! Another good news for the Mandrake community is an announce from Mandrakesoft that due to the stock resumed trading on Euronext on last Monday, with a nice increase of +10.00% in three days." Update: 03/11 06:23 GMT by T : Cheap ISOs are also available from merchants like OSDisc.com and CheapBytes.

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But what about longhorn (4, Funny)

Stevyn (691306) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526010)

This is good and all, but when's longhorn comming out? And more importantly, who's going to have the torrent for it?

mod -1 OFFTOPIC (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526023)

Now where are those moderator points...

Re:mod -1 OFFTOPIC (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526141)

Subject: mod -1 OFFTOPIC (Score:-1, Offtopic)

Hahahah... looks like you got your wish.

Mod +1: Funny (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526067)

Seriously guys, get a sense of humor.

If you really think that's flamebait, you're a pansy ass.

Now, that's flamebait.

Thank you (1)

Stevyn (691306) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526091)

Thank you buddy, I figured it would be funny because Linux distros make constant releases while microsoft delays and delays and delays.

Re:Thank you (4, Funny)

Gherald (682277) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526159)

> I figured it would be funny because Linux distros make constant releases while microsoft delays and delays and delays.

And when MS does finally release people complain about forced upgrades.

Re:But what about longhorn (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526100)

when's longhorn comming out? STOP PRESSES - BREAKING NEWS LONGHORN ADMITS BEING GAY Billg: 'Flabbergasted!' Analysts: coming out 'unexpected'.

Re:But what about longhorn (5, Funny)

ekstasy (761064) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526339)

Personally, I'm a fan of SCO... but maybe thats just me.

First Post (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526014)

Oh I always wanted to do that!

FP! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526017)

I switched to gentoo, so my web browser is faster than Mandrakes, so I beat you to FP!

anonymous first post? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526021)

is it possible?

To quote LL Cool J (3, Insightful)

LittleLebowskiUrbanA (619114) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526022)

Don't call it a comeback, I've been here for years.

Re:To quote LL Cool J (2, Funny)

Brento (26177) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526210)

Don't call it a comeback, I've been here for years.

Well, and as long as you're quoting that particular song, you should quote the line that applies to the many fun times I had trying to get Mandrake to properly recognize my Thinkpad's wireless network card and video adapter:

Makin the tears rain down like a monsoon

fp ? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526026)

Oh, probably not...

test (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526029)

err..... is this thing on..?

Does it have Kernel 2.6? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526038)

If not then they can go to hell

Re:Does it have Kernel 2.6? (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526090)

From their features page:

System overview

Mandrakelinux 10.0 features the following software:

Kernel 2.6.3
XFree86 4.3
Glibc 2.3.3 with Native POSIX Threads Library (NPTL) support
GCC 3.3.2
Apache 2.0.48, Samba 3.0.2, MySQL 4.0.18
ProFTPD 1.2.9, Postfix 2.0.18, OpenSSH 3.6.1p2
KDE 3.2, GNOME 2.4.2, IceWM 1.2.13
OpenOffice.org 1.1, KOffice 1.3, Gnumeric 1.2.6
Mozilla 1.6, The GIMP 1.2.5, XMMS 1.2.9

Thank you (5, Funny)

Professor Cool Linux (759581) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526041)

My Torrent is SOOO much faster
THANKYOU /.

kids, this is a Great example of the good side of the /. effect

KDE 3.2! (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526047)

It has KDE 3.2, which is worth an upgrade all in itself! KDE 3.2 is a worth while upgrade, for any distro, not just Mandrake. I have it on Gentoo, and it sure kicks the crap out of XP on the dark side of my pc.

Re:KDE 3.2! (1)

Espectr0 (577637) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526088)

I wonder if it has a patched 3.2 kde with the kmail fixes kde mentioned a few days after the release. kde 3.2.1 has TONS of fixes

Re:KDE 3.2! (4, Informative)

leviramsey (248057) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526257)

It does... Even though it's tagged as "3.2.0" it's really 3.2.1 (all the fixes from CVS have been integrated).

Re:KDE 3.2! (0)

brian728s (666853) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526264)

So does this mean that I will finally be able to get it to work with my 9600se?

From cooker (1)

imr (106517) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526305)

The fixes are in cooker (the development version, but frozzen at this time; so, basically, a 10.0 with bugfixes being tested).

The mail:

Re: [Cooker] what about updates ? ...SNIP...
On Wednesday 10 March 2004 13:16,
> > Here we go. kde 3.2.1 is out. Lots of fixes. Packages on the way ?
Cooker is frozen.
so we can't upload kde3.2.1.
But I added all critical fix into kde3.2.0 p ackage for cooker (look at all
changelogs)

Re:KDE 3.2! (2, Insightful)

frodo from middle ea (602941) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526099)

it sure kicks the crap out of XP on the dark side of my pc.

Can you elaborate on this, please ? In what way does it beat XP ? speed , responsive ness , look and feel , usability ?

I use KDE too, but I don't use XP, So I can't compare, but I would sure like to know more, than a mere blanket statement like , "KDE kicks crap out of so&so"

Re:KDE 3.2! (1)

shystershep (643874) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526192)

Having used both, I'd say the answer to you're question is "yes."


(i.e., all of the above)

Re:KDE 3.2! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526251)

Having used both, I'd say the answer to you're question is "yes." ... the answer to "you are" question...?

What does that mean?

Re:KDE 3.2! (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526206)

Speed, KDE 3.2 is a lot faster in this release. Windows XP is not as fast. Responsiveness too, look and feel is KDEs biggest strength, with over 11 different styles to choose from. unlike the kludge of Windows XP theming, which dosen't work a lot of the time. Certainly usabillity. Windows XP has made a lot of mistakes, I prefer KDE because it is better than 98/2000 but without errors of XP. KDE's best kept secret of course is the Control Center, you can make KDE do almost anything with it.

Re:KDE 3.2! (5, Funny)

prockcore (543967) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526220)

I would sure like to know more, than a mere blanket statement like , "KDE kicks crap out of so&so"

I think he means that KDE is a bully, always beating up other OSes. It's rude, unfriendly, and difficult to control.

Aparently, KDE's parents didn't give it enough attention when it was young.

Re:KDE 3.2! (1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526303)

I found two ways that the new Mandrake really kicks the crap out of XP.

First: It's only the 2nd distro I've tried (out of maybe 20 MDK/SuSE/RH versions) in the past 2-3 years that has automagically detected my sound card. It's a terribly exotic 'Soundblaster Live! 5.1' card. How do I know it detected it? Why, that SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE that won't stop coming out of my speakers. Kudos to the Mandrake team for being one of the only distros to find my soundcard without lots of modprobe and other very intuitive methods of detecting it.

It also found the Samba printer shared off of my Wife's machine. I know this because it told me. None of the multiple test pages showed up, but hey, why would Mandrake lie about something like that?

I don't know why I bothered. I'll probably download 10.1 when it comes out, have a bunch of problems, and give up again. Oh, at least this time GRUB doesn't disable my (standard, not USB) keyboard so I can't pick which OS to boot into 9/10 times. BONUS!

It's all 100% true, though I'm sure I'll get

1. modded down because I didn't say Linux is fantastic
2. lambasted for only spending several hours trying to configure each distro before giving up in frustration (things generally worked better 2 years ago!)
3. accused of using bizarre, grey market, very old or very new hardware (none of that is true)
4. accused of not actually trying this because the public release wasn't until today and nobody checked alt.binaries.cd.image.linux

Re:KDE 3.2! (1)

wafflemonger (515122) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526330)

It jumps across over to the other partition and beats it senseless with any loose cables that are around inside the computer.

Re:KDE 3.2! (0, Funny)

tntguy (516721) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526151)

I have it on Gentoo

So it just finished compiling, eh? You know 3.2.1 is out [kde.org] , right? :-)

Re:KDE 3.2! (1)

trtmrt (638828) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526224)

KDE 3.2 had some pretty annoying bugs. It's good that they released 3.2.1 so soon - for me it fixed all the problems I was having with 3.2.1 (kmail erratically movin around messages, kget was basically unusable since it crashed so often...) I might be imagining but I got the impression that konqueror starts up a bit faster in 3.2.1. I also just figured out today that the default server response timeout on KDE is large and was slowing down konqueror. Once I made it smaller konqueror was noticeably faster.

Re:KDE 3.2! (3, Informative)

joestar (225875) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526285)

Actually, Mandrakelinux 10.0 provides KDE 3.2 plus many patches that make it a KDE 3.2.1. Just for your information.

KDE 3.2.0 Faster...If you set it up right. (1)

darkmeridian (119044) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526341)

Well, KDE 3.2.0 is much faster than Windows XP. It is less laggy. This might be because of the pre-emptible kernel, though. (I never used previous versions of KDE.) KDE is also more customizable in its GUI behavior and the taskbar is movable. However, it is the little things that make this release better. The helper apps work. (Such as KLaptop.) The icons are neater.

And for a long while, XP was just cuter as an OS. Not anymore. KDE takes the crown. Little popping icons following the cursor. KDE has more options and behaviors, and also transparency on its taskbar. These are all configurable quite easily. You can't do these things with Windows XP.

Of course, you are running linux, so when you read about Windows vulnerabilities, you go to windowsupdate.com and remember that you are running linux.

Even after all this, you have to be careful setting it up. This is the greatest weakness with linux, in my opinion; it takes forever to set up. My system was really slow. And then I enabled DMA. Then I installed the nvidia drivers. And then I edited XF86Config-4 to make it actually use nvidia. (You have to disable "dri" under Modules.) Then you have to steal the windows fonts from your dual-boot partition and emerge the bitstream fonts. Then you have to edit ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file to set the default fonts so everything is just right.

However, these configuration problems are probably gentoo-specific, though. Someone should install Mandrake 10 and see if the configuration is better. (In my experience with Mandrake 9.2, it should be. The package manager is strong, too.) But gentoo is much better because everything you install on your system is up-to-date. Simply emerge sync, and emerge -u system. Ease of use is balanced against up-to-dateness. Hmm....

Huh? (3, Funny)

Misch (158807) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526049)

"...Another good news for the Mandrake community is an announce from Mandrakesoft that due to the stock resumed trading on Euronext on last Monday, with a nice increase of +10.00% in three days."

What in sam hell is he saying? timothy, could you do your job as editor and edit some correct grammar into this fragment of a sentence?

Re:Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526107)

they are not editors...they have never claimed to be....they do not correct or modify the text provided by the poster.
Slashdot has been around a long time now, but people still haven't picked up on this...

Re:Huh? (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526196)

Like this story wasnt submitted by umpteen dozen Mandrake fanatics. Timbo could have picked any one of those submissions. Was this the most coherent?

What exactly does "extra CDs downloads and even a DVD ISO!" mean? I dont use mandrake, what the FUCK does that mean?

Oh, and BTW, they refer to themselves as editors.

And they modify text all the time, by omitting parts and adding their stupid little comments to them. They modslap opinion and users whose opions they dont like.

None of this would matter, except that they want people to PAY for this site.

Re:Huh? (1, Flamebait)

confuse(issue) (750477) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526163)

Flamebait? Which part, the one where he mistakenly calls them editors? Seriously there could be at least three meanings to that sentence. If editing is really not what you guys do, at least have someone proofread over your shoulder. I know I can miss stuff like that in my own writing so I proofread.

Re:Huh? (1)

Misch (158807) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526283)

That's exactly what I meant. Did it mean the stock resumed trading because its value went up 10%, or did the value go up 10% because the stock resumed trading? The "announce"ment doesn't say anything about the price of the stock.

All it says is that they're paying off soem debt, and are issuing more shares of stock.

Also, the "nice increase of +10.00% in three days" sentence fragment is confusing. A "." in european terms is similar in meaning to a comma in western terms. Is this just 10%, or is it 1000% with a misplaced format separator?

Trouble with traditional distros (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526071)

Mdk 10 is here but will miss these:

kernel 2.6.4 out soon (not as big a deal)
Gnome 2.6 out soon
OpenOffice 1.1.1 out soon
KDE 3.2.1 out now
Gimp 2.0 out soon

etc, etc, etc.

It's hard to make a "splash" when the code is so old!

Re:Trouble with traditional distros (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526096)

Sure Mandrake will make a splash. It'll make a splash as I 'download' that stinky turd into my toilet bowl. Watch out brother!

Re:Trouble with traditional distros (4, Insightful)

Stevyn (691306) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526134)

This could go on forever though. Including gimp and openoffice makes it even worse. Companies that put these out don't just wake up one morning and decide to compile and release their projects. It takes companies like mandrake a lot of time to put these together and test them. To make a negative about this release that it won't have bleeding edge releases of other software is kind of petty. Besides, most of their users won't care and the ones that do will update their software once the new 3rd party apps come out.

Re:Trouble with traditional distros (5, Funny)

straponego (521991) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526135)

Yeah, they should hold off on releasing the distribution until the final releases of all the packages are out!

Re:Trouble with traditional distros (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526147)

Yes, but just remember that it already has made several radical upgrades, such as KDE 3.2, Kernel 2.6, Glibc with NPTL, Community Release process. Its far too much to do that all in one go.

If you would like all that stuff, then there are other distros coming out soon, such as Fedora core 2, SuSE 9.1, Slackware 10, and don't forget constantly updated distros such as Gentoo.

The Open Source Community is always rapidly changing, if Mandrake had waited for those packages to be released, then some other software would be around the corner and you would complain about that instead.

Re:Trouble with traditional distros (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526183)

Nice knee-jerk reactions to parent post about waiting forever for every software. Clue in here folks and realize we're talking a matter of weeks for release of these packages when development of them has taken many months. It's not as if the release dates are months in the future and it's not as if the developer versions couldn't be tested by the distro packagers.

The problem is these distros are going OUT stale and will remain stale for the 6 months or whatever they are out til the next release.

It's like buying week-old bread.

Re:Trouble with traditional distros (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526229)

Clue in, yourself, by checking out Mandrake's new release cycle. I don't know for a fact that they'll include these latest versions in the final release, but the one's that don't effect the usability/stability of other parts of the system will probably be there. In a couple months.

Re:Trouble with traditional distros (2, Informative)

KingOfBLASH (620432) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526255)

It's hard to make a "splash" when the code is so old!
Bleeding edge code -- especially in large distros -- can be buggy because companies like Mandrake have to modify code to fit everything together. Many people like the stability assosciated with a distro, and those that don't can always compile everything themselves from scratch.

Re:Trouble with traditional distros (2, Informative)

leviramsey (248057) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526294)

Kernel 2.6.3 (unless you use kernel-linus) in Mandrake includes many of the patches that will be in 2.6.4 (if you use Thomas Backlund's kernels, you'll get even more of those, along with pre-emption).

KDE "3.2.0" in Mandrake has the 3.2.1 fixes included, despite being tagged as 3.2.0.

Gimp 2.0 (or something similar) is in contribs and has been for a long time.

What's the legal status of the DVD? (2, Interesting)

Vo0k (760020) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526080)

Is posting a .torrent of it, by someone who got it legal?
I mean, great most of Linux is GNU but doesn't Mandrake include some proprietary pieces that would make distributing it to us random hackers illegal, or is the restriction just caused by bandwidth considerations?

Re:What's the legal status of the DVD? (2, Interesting)

benna (614220) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526098)

If its GPL'd then its legal to make a torrent.

Re:What's the legal status of the DVD? (5, Informative)

ttldkns (737309) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526104)

Mandrake makes a point of it being a totally GPL distro.

Re:What's the legal status of the DVD? (1, Insightful)

Florian Weimer (88405) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526302)

Mandrake makes a point of it being a totally GPL distro.

They don't included SSL support, Apache and OpenSSH?

Read it (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526105)

README [gnu.org]

An increase of +10.00%? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526084)

I definitely prefer that to an increase of -10.00%!

Re:An increase of +10.00%? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526182)

Well, you can do + (+10.00%) as easilly as + (-10.00).

They are different things...

Err... (4, Funny)

mhlandrydotnet (677863) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526085)

Another good news for the Mandrake community is an announce from Mandrakesoft that due to the stock resumed trading on Euronext on last Monday, with a nice increase of +10.00% in three days.

I presume this means something along the lines of: more good news for the Mandrake community is that this new release has caused Mandrakesoft's stock to resume trading and is up 10% in three days.

Could the editors at least make sure the posts are readible?

Re:Err... (4, Funny)

Espectr0 (577637) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526109)

Could the editors at least make sure the posts are readible?


How about readable? :P

I hate replying when my post is a gp but.. (1)

mhlandrydotnet (677863) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526223)

That's exactly what I mean. The odds are that anybodies submission (in this case my own post) will have grammatical errors. And in the case of front page stuff, don't paying customers get to look over the content first and raise flags if there are problems?

Re:I hate replying when my post is a gp but.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526276)

anybodies

You mean anybody's, right?

Re:I hate replying when my post is a gp but.. (1)

leviramsey (248057) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526336)

Subscribers get the opportunity to spot warts, but sending an email to editors@slashdot is too time-consuming... 'twould be much better if there was a link in stories From the Mysterious Future to a form where "editorial comments" (additional links of interest, spelling/grammar nits, etc.) could be posted and visible by all editors (and only editors).

I get the distinct impression that large amounts of mail to editors@slashdot gets /dev/null'd immediately.

Great (4, Insightful)

iantri (687643) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526093)

I'm glad Mandrake switched their release system to this -- a general, maybe a bit buggy, Community release, and then an official release a few months later with the bugs worked out.

What Mandrake does is great; they produce a very nice desktop distribution, but it's no secret that their product tends to be incredibly buggy out of the box.

Let's hope this helps them improve the quality of their releases!

Happy packets eating everyone! (2, Funny)

ongeboren (734626) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526101)

apt-get update; apt-get upgrade

Mandrake XP? (5, Funny)

An-Unnecessarily-Lon (761026) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526120)

I am waiting on a non-numberd version. I almos bit with OS-X. But at the last second I realized it was a roman # 10. Close.

Re:Mandrake XP? (1)

An-Unnecessarily-Lon (761026) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526171)

Not to say OS-X is compatible. But just to say.. ahh the hell with it.

Mandrake's been great but... (4, Interesting)

Wokan (14062) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526122)

I've been a big fan of Mandrake since 5.3. I stuck with them through a few x.0 fiascos and rarely been affected by whatever mistakes people have discovered. That being said, what Mandrake's done with 10.0 and the idea of the community release is to shorten the beta and RC cycle down, releasing a distro that's "mostly ready" so the final bugs can be worked out before the "official" version. I translate that to the community release being just another release candidate and have no plans to install it on my regular use home system (as opposed to the beta testing system I normally leave on Cooker) until they get the rest of the kinks worked out.

In the meantime, that former Cooker system is compiling the kernel for a LiveCD / i686 Stage 3 Gentoo 2004.0 install. I look forward to seeing just how different these 2 distros are to use on a daily basis. (Save any stage 1 for real performance comments. I did that back when 1.4 was released and didn't want to sit around so long again.)

SuSE Linux (-1, Offtopic)

Laebshade (643478) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526123)

Last I checked, SuSE Linux installs more easily, has a few nice mods to KDE (including recently used programs' links, ALA Windows XP style), and has YaST, a package installer GUI for rpms. YaST also functions to easily change configurations for NICs, displays, TV tuner cards, and more. The only con to SuSE Linux (I've found) is that the freely download version is: a)lacks software included with the retail version due to "licensing" issues. b)not officially supported. c) no (official) ISOs available for download. Concerning the last con, it's very possible to do a network install, of which I did, but ran into a few problems the first time I tried about a year ago. You have to have the IP address for the server you want to pull it from and the EXACT directory of the install. But still, the best distribution (as far as ease of use w/o bulkiness) I've used.

Re:SuSE Linux (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526175)

Thanks for your valuable, and on topic post.

I'm sure the story was about MANDRAKE linux..

Re:SuSE Linux (2, Informative)

general_boy (635045) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526225)

The recently used programs links, if you're talking about the K menu, are disabled by default in Mandrake. To enable them:

- Right click on the Panel (bar across the bottom), select "Configure Panel"
- On the window that pops up, click the Menus tab
- Towards the bottom of the pane, see "QuickStart Menu Items" for your options.
- Click OK/Apply.

Re:SuSE Linux (3, Interesting)

stevezero (620090) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526239)

I'll answer a lot of these...

> SuSE Linux installs more easily,

That's in the eye of the beholder, but I'm happy with the Mandrake 10.0 install process. The only problem I have with it is the configuration of wireless cards in that it's fairly complicated as compared to others.

> has a few nice mods to KDE (including recently used programs' links, ALA Windows XP style)

IIRC, that's standard in KDE 3.2+. The Mandrake 10.0 distro that I'm running right now has the "Most Used Applications" as well as "Recently Used Programs." I don't think that's a SuSE-only mod.

> and has YaST, a package installer GUI for rpms.

urpmi, and the gui of it, gurpmi, as well as rpmdrake and mandrakeupdate. IMHO, it doesn't get easier than clicking on it through the mandrake control center.

> YaST also functions to easily change configurations for NICs, displays, TV tuner cards, and more.

I've been able to change from my display on my laptop to my tv screen flawlessly. Also, Mandrake appears to be able to handle a change of my hardware without blinking, provided that it is of course, supported. I don't think that it's a distro thing, much more than a kernel/module thing.

Now, I'm not here to play the "My distro can beat up your distro" game, but let's not imply that SuSE can do all of these things, and Mandrake can't

Re:SuSE Linux (0)

Laebshade (643478) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526287)

I apologize. As I said, "last I checked".

2.6.3 (3, Informative)

moberry (756963) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526125)

Mandrakelinux 10.0 is based on Linux kernel 2.6.3

Based on 2.6.3, I think that this is the first distro to use the 2.6 series by defult. I could be mistaken though. Debian has had sid packages for 2.6 for a while.

Re:2.6.3 (1)

prockcore (543967) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526259)

Based on 2.6.3, I think that this is the first distro to use the 2.6 series by defult.

FC2 uses 2.6

Re:2.6.3 (1)

mkro (644055) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526281)

Fedora Core 2 test1. And don't tell me it doesn't count because it is a "test release", 'cause so is Mandrake 10, even though they call it "Community" instead of "rc" :)

Package management in Mdrake? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526137)

Just tried installing Java in mdrake 9.2. Wasn't so easy. Surely works better in e.g. Gentoo. Increasing version numbers doesn't implicitly help really. What mandrake needs is an easy way to install packages, and it doesn't do it now!

Is female circumcision/mutilation still legal in.. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526139)

France?

IN SOCIALIST FRANCE ... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526195)

Vaginas mutilate YOU!

You makeum goodly engrish (0, Offtopic)

thepuma (721283) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526156)

Another good news for the Mandrake community is an announce from Mandrakesoft that due to the stock resumed trading on Euronext on last Monday, with a nice increase of +10.00% in three days." Nice editing job!

mmm...Money (2, Insightful)

doublebackslash (702979) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526160)

While I use Fedora, and previously RedHat, I do love to see someone mking money (or at least loosing less) on a Linux Marketshare.
The more money linux makes, the more money will get poured into it. So long as Linus doesn't sell out this is a good thing, and I like it.

Maybey its time to give Mandrake a try, hows the support (ie, is there an up2date style thing thats free like in fedora?)?

Re:mmm...Money (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526215)

is there an up2date style thing thats free like in fedora?

Yes. Unfortunately, it has a syntax that looks very much like your sig.

Re:mmm...Money (1)

doublebackslash (702979) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526292)

My sig was a bit to large, I'll grant you the full source, compile and run at your leasure:

#include
int main()
{
int a=0x1ade0,b=92,c=0x1e40a8,d=0x90bdd,e=116,f=72,i;
for(i=0;i putchar(i>((c>>i*4)&15)&31)-13):(f+=(b>>((d>>(i-6) *3)&7)&7)-2));
return 0;
}

See, simple. Just have to put in a main, #include, some commas, and a for loop =D.
(YEAH, I know...I spent a lot of time on it, and had to sccrifice formating to get it out)

Re:mmm...Money (1)

LilMikey (615759) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526284)

urpmi and apt.

Fedora (1)

Anonymouse Cownerd (754174) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526340)

For those not in the know, you can find more information on Fedora at their official website at Fedora.org [fedora.org]

ATI Radeon problem? (1)

Troed (102527) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526172)

My girlfriend (spare me the usual comments thankyou) just installed this before this even made the news - pure luck I guess. Anyway, she started the Chromi-something shooter game and it's dead slow - have to kill -9 just to get rid of it.

System is a Duron 900, 512Mb RAM and an ATI Radeon 9600 Pro.

Anyone?

Re:ATI Radeon problem? (1)

Hayzeus (596826) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526208)

Exact same problem, totally different system, totally different distro (Knoppix 3.3).

Re:ATI Radeon problem? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526233)

lmao! What a loser. Here's a suggestion: Take your Chromi-something shooter game and stick it up your ass! Get a real system with a real OS and maybe you can play a real game! BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Re:ATI Radeon problem? (1)

doublebackslash (702979) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526238)

The 3d Accel is prob off. Not sure where to fix, not near MY computer right now...Somewhere in the graphical settings.

Try Google-ing, and also lok at the documentation for the driver (if any) thats where I found out how to get things going on my NVIDIA, had to pass an option directly to the driver, pretty simple, hard to find the option, though.

Re:ATI Radeon problem? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526248)

Ah yes.

The problem is, your girlfriend needs to get a little of the good stuff from a REAL MAN who knows how to fix a computer.

Re:ATI Radeon problem? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526249)

The slowness in Chromium seems to be a problem with Radeon cards in XWindows in general... Tux Racer was dog slow with a Radeon 7500, while it ran fine with a Matrox G200.

Re:ATI Radeon problem? (4, Informative)

SpacePunk (17960) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526271)

chromi is dead slow unless you install the x drivers for the card that use hardware acceleration. it was dead slow on my nvidia cards till I did this.

Re:ATI Radeon problem? (1)

molarmass192 (608071) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526295)

OpenGL drivers loaded? Try running glxgears, check the framerate you're getting there. Just an FYI, ATI's OGL drivers are kinda crappy, I get > 2200FPS with my old nVIDIA GeForce3 200 Ti. Also, for the price you probably paid for a 9600 Pro, you should consider spending an extra $100US and getting a better processor than a 900Mhz Duron, hell, XP 2000+s are around $100US now.

Stock price (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526178)

The stock had a negative increase of -10% meaning that it didn't go up by a negative number instead it did not go down by a number that was not negative - a reverse positive increase of -10%.

Speedtouch modems (1)

norite (552330) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526222)

Looks pretty good. But are speedtouch modems supported automagically? I know several people that want to switch to Linux, but this is holding them back.

Re:Speedtouch modems (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526291)

If it is a software modem, no.

MandrakeClub (0, Insightful)

mkro (644055) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526237)

You know, I really think Mandrake is a nice distribution. I even considered paying for a membership, untill I saw what they offer [mandrakelinux.com] .
One thing is the level system in general, giving special access to those who pay more, but when I see what they are trying to tempt me with:
Silver members can download (...) PowerPack along with its numerous proprietary drivers and plugins.
Their bold, not mine. Whoopeedoo, pay extra to ENCOURAGE prorietary drivers. They are also proud to present "commercial applications which are normally only available in retail packs", various other discounts, "Direct-trading program for MandrakeSoft stock, plus access to real-time trading information", and with a GOLD membership (600 Euros a year) you can even see their webpages WITHOUT BANNER ADS!

It is of course good they are able to make some money to PAY people for the good work they are doing, but it should be possible without turning the whole thing into something ugly.

Re:MandrakeClub (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526327)

Whoopeedoo, pay extra to ENCOURAGE prorietary drivers

As opposed to not having any drivers at all? I'll take my proprietary drivers over nothing anyday.

Awesome, the first Version 10 Linux! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526242)



It's really cool that Mandrake has it first.

Sweet!

P2P (0, Redundant)

Jaysyn (203771) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526266)

I hope someone puts that DVD ISO on p2p or a nice bittorrent.

Jaysyn

This is good news (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8526267)

I'm glad Mandrake switched their release system to this -- a general, maybe a bit buggy, Community release, and then an official release a few months later with the bugs worked out.

What Mandrake does is great; they produce a very nice desktop distribution, but it's no secret that their product tends to be incredibly buggy out of the box.

Let's hope this helps them improve the quality of their releases!

A nice increase of +10.00% in three days.? (4, Funny)

StevenMaurer (115071) | more than 10 years ago | (#8526286)

I'd prefer a better increase of +10.00000000000%

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