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A Law Show Set 25 Years from Now

michael posted more than 10 years ago | from the chung-chung dept.

Television 413

aaron240 writes "CBS will be airing a pilot of a new show called 'Century City' tonight, Tuesday, March 16th. CNN has the story. The executive producer, Ed Zuckerman, had this to say about the future state of the law in America: 'Our future is a positive future. We assume that things are basically going to get better, progress will continue,' Zuckerman says. 'There will be problems -- new inventions, new technologies will bring with them difficulties -- but it's a bright future.' He also makes it clear that 'This is not a 'Blade Runner''. Is there any chance it will offer a decent treatment of the issues Open Source advocates worry about today? If he's so positive, could he possibly know anything about software patents to say nothing of SCO?"

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Don't forget... (-1)

SCO$699FeeTroll (695565) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583141)

...to pay your $699 licensing fee you cock-smoking teabaggers.

Re:Don't forget... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583172)

Shut your ugly cock hole.

Please.

Re:Don't forget... (0, Redundant)

jeremytribby (697189) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583180)

Darl, is that you?

Re:Don't forget... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583220)

Are you trying to be funny, you stupid cunt?

What I really need to find out is... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583345)

If I install a Fleshlight in my Aibo, do I or my ex-wife have to pay the $1499 licensing fee?!!!

Re:Don't forget... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583404)

Jebus H. Christ on a poscicle stick, hasn't the /.-is-that-you crap died *yet*? More and more like the latter half of the original name......

Not ANOTHER law show? (4, Insightful)

andyrut (300890) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583144)

This might turn out to be a great show. But really, there's already a glut of legal shows on television (The Practice, Judging Amy, JAG, etc.), and using a gimmick like setting it in the future won't attract me to it.

Is there any chance it will offer a decent treatment of the issues Open Source advocates worry about today? If he's so positive, could he possibly know anything about software patents to say nothing of SCO?

Don't expect it to even come close to issues important to us nerds.

There's just something lacking in a show that focuses on such riveting legal issues as "should a player with a super-accurate bionic eye be allowed to play professional baseball?" Really, this is an actual plot line [nynewsday.com] that will be in "Century City."

Re:Not ANOTHER law show? (2, Insightful)

DonnieD701 (735118) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583182)

Won't this just end up like every other show about lawyers? Sex, Lies, and more sex..

Re:Not ANOTHER law show? (5, Funny)

Zordak (123132) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583270)

No, I'm betting it gets cancelled before it has a chance to get that far. I've seen the previews, and for the most part, it just looks silly and contrived. Sort of like "The Practice" spent a steamy night in a seedy motel with "Minority Report," and this was the unhappy result.

Re:Not ANOTHER law show? (4, Funny)

LostCluster (625375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583370)

Let's face it, Minority Report had some great vision-of-future-tech bits with an absolutely lame story. Maybe there is something interesting in the daily civil lawsuit during that time frame...

Re:Not ANOTHER law show? (2, Interesting)

GAVollink (720403) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583433)

That's what you get when you take a ~45 page Philip K. Dick short story and try to turn it into a feature film. Same problem that you have with 'Paycheck', way to much filler for the producer to over-produce.

One review article: (5, Informative)

Greedo (304385) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583419)

From The Globe and Mail [theglobeandmail.com] :

Just imagine the pitch some scriptwriter must have delivered for the new series Century City (CBS, 9 p.m.): "Sexy lawyers in the future! And they're practising law!" It must have seemed a good idea at the time.

Certainly, the network would like the show to become a breakaway ratings hit (not likely), but more likely, it's airing it because it's already spent the money.

The show is set in a high-end L.A. law firm, circa 2030. The company is managed by a few salty old-schoolers, Hector Elizondo among them, and a few young upstarts, including the necessary young idealist (Welsh actor Ioan Gruffudd), best known from several turns as the lead in C. S. Forester's Horatio Hornblower on A&Eand wildly miscast here.

The first episode veers between two cases customized and contrived to fit the futuristic format: A scientist (David Paymer) is arrested for cloning, although he was doing it only to save his son's life. A septuagenarian rock star (Anthony Zerbe) is sued by his band mates for refusing to undergo procedures to look young.

Sad to report, the future looks pretty much the same as the present does, except with cleaner air and fancier laptops. There are a few advances: Pre-trial hearings are accomplished via holograms. Characters marvel about cherries without pits. But where are the moving sidewalks, the sassy robot maids and other conveniences promised to us by Alvin Toffler and The Jetsons?

Nothing is exceptional about Century City, neither its concept nor its cast, made up largely of vaguely familiar TV faces, which includes a bit player from Suddenly Susan and a woman from Judging Amy. They are actors at a way station -- on the rebound from one show and on their way to the next.

Re:Not ANOTHER law show? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583227)

It's a logical extension of current issues like "Should players be allowed to chemically enhance their bodies?"

You may not be interested in sports, but I am, and I'd be curious to see how they argue it, pro and con.

Too bad I don't have a TV anymore.

Re:Not ANOTHER law show? (4, Insightful)

somethinghollow (530478) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583256)

Not to mention that a show about OSS would be more boring to the general public than any given APT show (note: I said GENERAL public, which might not be YOU). OSS just isn't good entertainment unless 1) it's real and 2) you're a geek. Hell, I wouldn't watch it. Speculating about the future of OSS would be pointless. Things that adhere to evolution via demands (as OSS projects do) don't always stick to a plan.

Didn't we already settle this issue? (5, Funny)

El (94934) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583280)

should a player with a super-accurate bionic eye be allowed to play professional baseball? Should women with breast implants be allowed to compete in wet T-shirt contests?

Re:Didn't we already settle this issue? (5, Funny)

DShard (159067) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583401)

Conversely, should women who don't have implants get points deducted for lack of dedication to their sport.

Re:Not ANOTHER law show? (2, Funny)

Rosyna (80334) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583298)

Well, it is obvious that I won't be watching it tonight. A new episode of Scrubs is on at the same time that deals with causality and the chaos theory. A subject much more interesting to me.

Re:Not ANOTHER law show? (4, Funny)

corbettw (214229) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583434)

Well, it is obvious that I won't be watching it tonight. A new episode of Scrubs is on at the same time that deals with causality and the chaos theory. A subject much more interesting to me.

Scrubs has plots? I thought it was just a vehicle for watching Sarah Chalke occasionally flash her bra. At least, that's why I watch it.

Re:Not ANOTHER law show? (1)

dreamchaser (49529) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583305)

In a country ruled by lawyers, does this really surprise you?

Re:Not ANOTHER law show? (1)

iminplaya (723125) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583427)

There's just something lacking in a show that focuses on such riveting legal issues as "should a player with a super-accurate bionic eye be allowed to play professional baseball?"

Yet another case ripped from the headlines [businessweek.com]

Bright Future? (0, Funny)

pholower (739868) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583154)

Yeah Bright Future alright, until nuclear war breaks out. I mean really, its inevitable.

Re:Bright Future? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583199)

Uh, so you think the globalthermonuclearwar will be dark?

Re:Bright Future? (1)

pholower (739868) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583214)

Sure, after nuclear winter sets in.

Re:Bright Future? (1)

Camel Pilot (78781) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583241)

I do not believe it is inevitable. Three things that will drastically decrease the probabilities

+ Free exchange of information (free press)
+ Expansion of democratically elected governments.
+ Womens right to vote

Re:Bright Future? (5, Insightful)

AuMatar (183847) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583316)

While I don't disagree that women should be able to vote anywhere, exactly why do you think that will reduce war? We've had more wars in the US in the past century with women voting than in the century before without.

dfsdfsdfdasfsdfsdfsd (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583156)

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And the first case on the show will be (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583161)

The 978432431th successful prosecution of someone for stealing songs of the internet.

Re:And the first case on the show will be (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583203)

That many people listen to songs of the internet?

Not likely! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583162)

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First Episode of New Law Show (5, Funny)

Tongue In A Box (664849) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583164)

Microsoft is currently appealing the latest decision orcing them to break apart...details in the next law show set 25 years ahead of this one.

Re:First Episode of New Law Show (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583291)

Microsoft is currently appealing the latest decision orcing them to break apart.

"Orcing" them?

I thought most Orcings were caused BY Microsoft.

About that Orcing... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583387)

I Orc'd your mom last night. I'm a goblin so you can expect your little Uruk'hai brother to arrive in a jelly sack in about 2 weeks.

Seriously... ever wonder about HOW Saruman crossed goblins with orcs to create the Uruk'hai? I think it was done with a turkey baster and a whole shitload of saran wrap.

Call me crazy, (4, Insightful)

Mike the Mac Geek (182790) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583166)

But I think this will be more along the lines of family law, divorces, and criminal defense rather than copyright law, etc.

Not too many people find copyright law and open source law rulings terribly entertaining.

Re:Call me crazy, (2, Insightful)

millahtime (710421) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583250)

Well at the rate we are going there will be something like a 90% divorce rate, sex and drugs will be rampant, athletes will be cyborgs. I mean will there really be families as we know it?? Will marriage even be something really??? It's going to be law meets star trek meets larry flint.

Re:Call me crazy, (1)

iminplaya (723125) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583278)

Not too many people find copyright law and open source law rulings terribly entertaining.

Hey, if they get the babes from "All My Children", I'll watch. Hell, Matlock and Perry Mason have nothing on SCO and the patent/copyright soap operas currently online. This is even better than Professional Wrestling, because the outcome hasn't been fixed.(as far as I know)

Re:Call me crazy, (1)

xlyz (695304) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583373)

Not too many people find copyright law and open source law rulings terribly entertaining

are you kidding? just check how many peoples spend hours on browsing/commenting SCO vs the world soap opera

Congratulations, Spain! (-1)

the Howard Dean Camp (748694) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583168)

You gave in to terrorists. Good job!

C'mon (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583171)

"a legal drama set in the year 2030, where the lawyers find that though laws change, people remain the same."

Does that sound like something that would discuss issues like software licenses? No, it sounds like a legal soap opera. I don't think this will outlast a season.

Great! I know some cases they will work on! (4, Funny)

ScottGant (642590) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583176)

They'll STILL be waiting for SCO to tell us which code is in violation.

Site seems to be gettign sluggish (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583185)

optimism (0)

name773 (696972) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583190)

If he's so positive, could he possibly know anything about software patents to say nothing of SCO?

maybe he knows they don't have a case.

Show within the show (4, Funny)

raider_red (156642) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583195)

One of the features of the show will be the premiere of the 256th Law and Order spinoff: "Law And Order: Illegal Cloning Investigation Unit".

Re:Show within the show (1)

AsimovBesterClarke (701529) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583338)

Come now, you couldn't even ObSimpsons:

Law & Order: Elevator Investigation Unit

Re:Show within the show (1)

Liselle (684663) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583435)

I am still waiting for: "Law and Order: Parking Tickets".

Hahhahaa (1, Funny)

stratjakt (596332) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583196)

Is there any chance it will offer a decent treatment of the issues Open Source advocates worry about today?

You mean like gay marriage, sodomy law reforms and legalized pot?

neat idea, but... (4, Interesting)

JeffSh (71237) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583204)

here's the pilot info:

A young boy's father wants the right to use the boy's genetic embryo clone to develop a baby who could donate a portion of his liver to save him. The firm also takes on the case of a boy band that is suing its lead singer for not adhering to his contract to keep up his physical appearance.

It doesn't look like they are going to tbe dealing with technology very much/not at all.

moreover, it looks like the 2 issues they picked for their pilot are both things that don't require much foresight to envision, not to mention that the clone thing should happen alot sooner then 25 yrs..

Re:neat idea, but... (1)

Rick and Roll (672077) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583330)

Well, one case is about medical technology, and the other is about medical technology.

Looks like it is going to deal with technology.

But yeah, those don't take a whole lot of foresight. Looks like filler to me.

Re:neat idea, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583366)

A young boy's father wants the right to use the boy's genetic embryo clone to develop a baby who... ...will willingly submit to his constant molestations.

Michael Jackson will guest star as himself.

Man science moves fast... (4, Interesting)

Godeke (32895) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583211)

I find the timeline a bit aggressive. Supposedly set in 2030, the issues at hand seem more in line for maybe 2070 or beyond. Not to belittle the advances of the last 25 years (all hail the microwave) but twenty five years ago was not that *radically* different from today.

Perhaps the date was chosen to avoid appearing to be "too much like science fiction", but I must express my doubts that LA will have maglev monorails and all cars will be fuel cell powered by then. The death of paper seems even more unlikely, as does robotic kitchens.

Aw, who am I kidding: 1950's scientific optimism plus the moral dilemmas of progress... I may actually watch this just to see if it is ham fisted or actually well thought out.

Re:Man science moves fast... (4, Funny)

mattkime (8466) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583301)

twenty five years ago was not that *radically* different from today.

I beg to differ.

There was no slashdot.

I mean really, what did people do at work back then?

Re:Man science moves fast... (3, Interesting)

Matey-O (518004) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583321)

You're kidding, right? In 1988, I had _7_ casettes and 3 or 4 records...my iPod has over 200 albums worth of content and it's 25% of my (legal) collection. The surest way to get predicting the future is to TRY to predict the future. Ya think Back to the future part II was over the top when it failed to predict disposeable cellphones, electric paper, and MEMS? (all of which are really here now.)

Re:Man science moves fast... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583382)

You listened to music then, you listen to music now.

Yay. Things have changed soooo much.

Re:Man science moves fast... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583418)

Not to belittle the advances of the last 25 years (all hail the microwave) but twenty five years ago was not that *radically* different from today.

Yes it was, it's just because you live through it you don't realise how much things are changing.

25 years ago most people did not have computers on their desks. Yes, computers existed, but they weren't everywhere and the tricks they were performing weren't much like what we have now. Try going through a typical work day and thinking "how would I be doing this without a computer?".

Just think "no spreadsheets". Seriously, one tiny app, how much difference does it make?

Re:Man science moves fast... (1)

WyerByter (727074) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583423)

I hate to disagree, but how many computers did you own 25 years ago? And how many of those computers where the size of a deck of cards or smaller?

And that's just two questions near and dear to /.'s heart.

Re:Man science moves fast... (5, Insightful)

IronBlade (60118) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583436)

but I must express my doubts that LA will have maglev monorails and all cars will be fuel cell powered by then.

Well, if the site I link to [lifeaftertheoilcrash.net] is any indication, then the cars will have to run on something other than petroleum products.
Would be interesting to see if the coming energy crisis [dieoff.com] will be covered at all...
Somehow, I doubt it, as ignorance (and/or denial) is bliss...

Re:Man science moves fast... (1)

doggo (34827) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583447)

"...but twenty five years ago was not that *radically* different from today."

Uh huh, yeeeaahhh, right. 1979. Not that different...

Well, if you just ignore the advances in medicine, transportation, manufacturing, astronomy, politics, things like that, there's always telecommunications.

Small advances, like ubiquitous cell phones. PCs. PCs with 3Ghz clock speeds and 2 GBs of RAM, and who knows how many 'flops!

Didja just miss history happening, or what?

Canadian law show in the present - A HIT! (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583215)

This is Wonderland [www.cbc.ca] is a new CBC show that is genuinely funny, and a great drama too. It is by far the best new Law show I've seen, and is better than Law and Order SVU, although it covers similar turf with some of it's cases.

One problem with legal shows, is that they are 95% of the time, based in the USA, and so don't have Crown Attourneys, and other Canadian twists.

I'm too young to remember the Street Legal days, but this is one series that I hope lasts as long, and catches on. It is very entertaining.

Re:Canadian law show in the present - A HIT! (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583327)

This is Wonderland [thisiswonderland.com] offical website.

Last week a prostitute was aquitted for the more serious charge of sexual interference with a minor, a 13 year old boy in his hospital bed, because he lied about his age. In Canada, the age of consent is 14, and the show took a jab at American TV which mis-informs Canadian youth about the age of consent.

The next craze in programming... (2, Insightful)

adamgreenfield (245052) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583221)

This article seems pretty well centered around Hector Elizondo [imdb.com] , however this show could be pretty interesting. I'll try to catch the first episode this evening, however I really hope this isn't the next Law and Order style courtroom drama. I'm much more apt to waste some time watching a CSI style show anyday.
Seems like cop/courtroom drama is the next reality TV... CBS was definatly all over that (read: Survivor)

Things to come. (2, Funny)

C10H14N2 (640033) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583223)

Pity Leni Riefenstahl isn't around to consult on such positive outlooks of the future.

In the criminal justice system (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583229)

there are two separate yet equally important groups: the police, who investigate crime; and the attorneys, who prosecute the offenders.

IWNBAL (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583238)

in 25 years IWNBAL but...

You fucking idiot. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583242)

If he's so positive, could he possibly know anything about software patents to say nothing of SCO?

HUR HUR HUR, SO FUNNY. God, I Mean, you talk about a fucking TV show with lawywers and you have to make some gay ass remark, "Oooh I wonder if he knows about SCO?!?!?!?!" like everyone on slashdot will lick your cock and think you're a suave motherfucker.

You piece of shit. You're fucking unoriginal.

Re:You fucking idiot. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583409)

like everyone on slashdot will lick your cock and think you're a suave motherfucker

Big talk from an AC.

Now put my cock back in your mouth and suck like you MEAN IT!

Why would he care about sco or anything like that? (5, Insightful)

upstart1234 (201823) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583251)

Why would someone doing a tv show about law in the future really give a damn about the issues with SCO or anything about Open Source. Please people do you really think anyone out in the world but us (ie the slashdot crowd) gives a rat ass about these things?

Century City = lame. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583254)

I'm waiting for Culver City, a futuristic cop show, which should be good. Plus I've heard that there's going to be a reality show called Glendale, which will put Syd Mead in a house with Harlan Ellison and six luddites, and every weak Harlan Ellison will eat one of them for a lame prediction about the future.

Not everyone thinks this is positive (3, Informative)

klipsch_gmx (737375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583259)

Kay McFadden is a respected TV show reviewer in the Seattle and had this [nwsource.com] to say, among other things:

"The stories tend to lean on loopholes -- cases and laws post-dating 2004. By any entertainment standards, the writers do a middling job of courtroom preparation and a really bad one with soap-opera histrionics.

At the end of tonight's episode, the verdict is clear: "Century City" is an argument against the kind of research that leads networks to mindless replication. Just say no to cloning."

Re:Not everyone thinks this is positive (3, Insightful)

nomadic (141991) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583365)

In other words they do to law what Star Trek did to physics. That's what turned me off of the various Trek series; they invented fake science to solve fake scientific problems, and expected us to care.

"You honor, we plead cybernetic estoppel."

KAY MCFADDEN? MORE LIKE GAY MCFADDEN! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583425)

Knowledge of the future... (2, Funny)

weeboo0104 (644849) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583261)

If he's so positive, could he possibly know anything about software patents to say nothing of SCO?"

Of course. SCO will not exist 25 years from now. Any reference made will simply be "SC-Who?"

Re:Knowledge of the future... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583282)

Please, don't respond to this article and quote that section unless you're telling him how unoriginal and unfunny he is.

Otherwise, you're only encouraging other people to be just as fucking retarded.

Site seems to be getting a bit sluggish (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583266)

Just a TV show and personal opinion (1)

fembots (753724) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583267)

Remember though, it's just (Fiction) TV show, and what the producer said is just his personal opinion.

This is probably as excitable as the release of 2001: A Space Odyssey in 1968.

Pure fiction... (1)

chaboud (231590) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583268)

'Our future is a positive future. We assume that things are basically going to get better, progress will continue,' Zuckerman says.

So, what they mean is that this show will have absolutely no basis in fact? Their next show will feature Auschwitz with supermarkets...

Re:Pure fiction... (1)

g0bshiTe (596213) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583288)

I think what he is trying to say is that society is as low as it can get, and the only way is up.

"Excuse me ma'am, where is the nearest suicide booth?"

OSS? (5, Insightful)

NineNine (235196) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583283)

Can somebody please explain to me what OSS has to do with a futuristic law show? I swear, I expect any day to see a story on something even *more* inane, such as a new color for Pepsi, and somehow, /. is going to relate that to OSS. There really IS more to life than OSS, people! Hell, there's a LOT more to *geek* life than OSS!

Re:OSS? (1)

Anonymous Crowhead (577505) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583352)

Can somebody please explain to me what OSS has to do with a futuristic law show?

Because the show is going to stink like Richard Stallman. I know, I know, Slashdot makes the most tenuous links between things.

Re:OSS? (1)

hambonewilkins (739531) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583402)

Congrats! You got a Score: 1, Troll, at least as I'm posting.

However, you are absolutely correct. I read the blurb and the poster's comments and thought: "How the hell does Open Source or SCO factor into a futuristic 'Law and Order'?"

Seriously, I will do a post about March Madness or the Final Four and perhaps add: "But will the winning university switch from Microsoft to Linux in their campus library? Only time will tell."

So that's where my students will be working (2, Interesting)

jezor (51922) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583286)

As someone who runs a business and technology law institute at Touro Law Center [tourolaw.edu] in Huntington, NY, I'm really looking forward to this show. Yes, it'll be soapy, and no, it won't go into the issues discussed on Slashdot, but I am tickled by the thought that someone is projecting out the other kinds of legal questions that may come up for my students, tomorrow's tech-savvy lawyers. But hey -- no law show ever showed licensing or similar lawyers; negotations over ownership provisions ("Work Made for Hire!" "No, Limited License!") or warranties and representations never make for good television. {Professor Jonathan}

Is somebody a wee bit obsessed with SCO? (2, Insightful)

CheeseTroll (696413) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583290)

If he's so positive, could he possibly know anything about software patents to say nothing of SCO?

Somebody didn't read the "Important Stuff" about posting, namely "Please try to keep posts on topic."

Might be worth it for the effects alone (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583300)

Zoic [zoicstudios.com] , the effects house behind Firefly and Battlestar Galactica are doing the effects for this one so it should have some neat visuals... if nothing else

mmm sci-fi lawyers (2, Interesting)

Telastyn (206146) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583313)

Actually, I think if they made it a sci-fi show rather than a lawyer show it would be fantastic. When I say sci-fi I mean proper cautionary tale sci-fi. It would be a great way to explore future legal ideas and even some current legal issues should they not be overturned [or not implimented in some cases]. It won't be though I bet. It will be the same things that have been covered before and better by other sources. Only now it's in the prime time, and will be dumbed down to make sure nobody gets lost.

THIS fP FoR GNAA (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583320)

brilliant plan as wideOpen,

Well (4, Insightful)

Operating Thetan (754308) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583331)

This is not a 'Blade Runner'

Well done. Blade Runner is well written, original and high quality. This is network sci fi/law drama, respectively the worst written* and the most overused of TV drama settings

*Some of it may be good, but for every Star Trek or Babylon 5 there are 2 Milleniums or Space:Above and Beyonds

SCO Status (1)

b12arr0 (3064) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583335)

I'm pretty sure SCO will still suck 25 years from now.

Remember... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583343)

This summer, when it gets hot outside, and your hemmoroids
gets even hotter, just look to the cool relief of
Preparation-H to get you on your way.

The Right to Read (3, Informative)

GillBates0 (664202) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583368)

This is a good time to catch up on RMS's essay titled theThe Right to Read [gnu.org] . gnu.org seems to be down right now, so here's the google cache link [216.239.53.104] .

This is a must read for anybody worried about patent_laws/copyright_laws/DRM/DMCA/etc. It outlines a future scenario where a student can face imprisonment for sharing/borrowing books/software which she could not afford.

There was a time when one would've considered this scenario farfeteched. With the new draconian laws, unfortunately it doesn't seem so anymore. A *must read* for any concerned Slashdotter AND to these folks trying to paint a BRIGHT picture for the current legislative system.

Quotes:
For Dan Halbert, the road to Tycho began in college--when Lissa Lenz asked to borrow his computer. Hers had broken down, and unless she could borrow another, she would fail her midterm project. There was no one she dared ask, except Dan. This put Dan in a dilemma. He had to help her--but if he lent her his computer, she might read his books. Aside from the fact that you could go to prison for many years for letting someone else read your books, the very idea shocked him at first. Like everyone, he had been taught since elementary school that sharing books was nasty and wrong--something that only pirates would do.

---snip--

Later on, Dan would learn there was a time when anyone could go to the library and read journal articles, and even books, without having to pay. There were independent scholars who read thousands of pages without government library grants. But in the 1990s, both commercial and nonprofit journal publishers had begun charging fees for access. By 2047, libraries offering free public access to scholarly literature were a dim memory.

nice! (1)

No. 24601 (657888) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583383)

software patents to say nothing of SCO

That's a great idea... actually, to hell with that: make a law that says SCO is NOTHING.

Things are gonna get better? (4, Insightful)

dfenstrate (202098) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583385)

Begin Rant
Our future is a positive future. We assume that things are basically going to get better, progress will continue,' Zuckerman says. 'There will be problems -- new inventions, new technologies will bring with them difficulties -- but it's a bright future.'

You know one huge improvement in our lives that this show likely won't consider? Erasing every single law on the books every 5-10 years.

Does anyone find it odd that we have to live, for fear of imprisonment, under a set of laws and regulations so conflicting, non-intuitive, and complex, that one needs a 6 year education to begin to understand the law?

Need an example? Look at Martha Stewart, soon to be imprisoned for basically lying to cops about a crime they couldn't prove she did anyway. Over an amount of money that was a fraction of what it probably cost to prosecute her. And she wasn't under oath. I care nothing about Martha Stewart personally, but the scenario stinks to me.

The US Code is hundreds of thousands of pages. Most of it is rot, laws set by legislatures to grant special priveleges to certain constituencies- or a sketchy, contrived delegation of Congress' lawmaking power- The EPA, anyone?- that we could dispense with and make the country a better place. I doubt anyone can go a full year without breaking a good half dozen laws, even with the best intentions.

So many laws and regulations could only come from a body who is deluded into thinking that the cure to any percieved societal ill is even more government. I suppose I can't blame them too much- when the only tool you have is a hammer, everything starts to look like a nail- but it's far past time to clean house.

Oh yeah, another lawyer show- woo-fucking-hoo. No, I did not read the FA. /Rant

Oh yeah, vote for me when I'm old enough to be a Senator, so I can try- likely in vain- to fix it. Thank you.

What is Sci Fi? (2, Insightful)

GPLDAN (732269) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583393)

I would feel better if the Sci Fi channel were handling this. A lot (not all) Sci Fi deals with social and political questions. The culmination of this, of course, is Dune. Dune deals in many ways with the British occupation of Afghanistan, and it resonates so soundly today it's frightening. Spice is oil.

If I had the CBS writers in a room, I'm not sure what I'd pass out. heinlein, Herbert, Orsan Scott Card, and maybe Necromancer. All required reading even before you get to start the first script. Really good sci-fi, the kind of stuff that clearly understands and reflects history is very rare and very special. I'm going to go out on a limb here, and guess the people who pen the jokes on 'Everybody Loves Raymon' or the plots on 'CSI' are going to be up to the challenge of writing good sci-fi.

Law and Order, in the future! (4, Interesting)

Sylver Dragon (445237) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583394)

Boy, the writters really had to dig deep fot this idea. Then again, this might just be a way for Hollywood to make everyone think that all the laws that they are buying are really good for the average citizen.
I can see the episode already:
*Two lawyers sitting in a cafe*
Lawyer 1 : Well, looks like they finally broke up that piracy ring
Lawyer 2 : Wow, I would have thought that with all of the consumer protection laws that were passed in the early 2000's that people would have given up trying to steal music.
Lawyer 1: Nope, seems that some people never learn that piracy is bad. After all, its the reason the economy crahsed in 2010.
Lawyer 2: Its a good thing that the Digital Rights Act of 2013 was passed. It was only by allowing the record labels the right to raid homes, and confiscate pirates computers that we managed to end that black time.
Lawyer 1: Yes, and the extension of copyrights to 1000 years was just the right thing to do, afterall, the creators should be allowed to gain the benifits of thier work.
Laywer 2: And don't forget about clearing up the whole problem with analog copies, allowing that to continue could have had seroius side effects.
Lawyer 1: Yes, indeed. If only people had realized earlier that they have no right, or valid reason to make any copy, we might have avoided the whole crash of 2010.
*break for commercial*

Or maybe I'm just being cyical today.

Is there any chance... (5, Informative)

3Suns (250606) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583398)

Is there any chance it will offer a decent treatment of the issues Open Source advocates worry about today?
I heard a radio ad for this show this morning. The quote was "Ma'am, is it true that you started a relationship with this man for the purpose of downloading his personality?"

So I'd say, probably not. Sounds like more far-fetched, yet hackneyed sci-fi cliches inserted into Law&Order.

Sci-Fi Going Mainstream (2, Interesting)

DanTheLewis (742271) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583410)

The thing I like about this, more than the premise of the show or its upbeat, Pollyanna tone, is that science fiction is now so mainstream that a lawyer show, at least exploring possibilities of technology and the pros and cons of an imaginary future, can be pitched to a network.

Television and film have really only scratched the surface of the deep field that is science fiction. The future of the genre will be a thing of beauty to behold.

Because StarTrek didn't have enought lawyers? (1)

Aqua OS X (458522) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583414)

So when does "Law & Order: Intergalactic Criminal Intent" air? Nothing is more exciting then the criminal justice system of the future (pronounced "FUUuuuuuTURRrrrrrre").

Hmm site seems a bit sluggish (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583421)

Living Next Door to Taco (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583422)

CowboyNeal called when he got the word,
And he said: "I suppose you've heard -
About Taco".
When I rushed to the window,
And I looked outside,
And I could hardly believe my eyes -
As a big limousine rolled up
Into Taco's drive...

Oh, I don't know why he's leaving,
Or where he's gonna go,
I guess he's got his reasons,
But I just don't want to know,
'Cos for twenty-four years
I've been living next door to Taco.
Twenty-four years just waiting for a chance,
To tell her how I feel, and maybe get a second glance,
Now I've got to get used to not living next door to Taco...

We grew up together,
Two kids in the park,
We carved our initials,
Deep in the bark,
Me and Taco.
Now he walks through the door,
With his head held high,
Just for a moment, I caught his eye,
As a big limousine pulled slowly
Out of Taco's drive.

Oh, I don't know why he's leaving,
Or where he's gonna go,
I guess he's got his reasons,
But I just don't want to know,
'Cos for twenty-four years
I've been living next door to Taco.
Twenty-four years just waiting for a chance,
To tell his how I feel, and maybe get a second glance,
Now I gotta get used to not living next door to Taco...

And CowboyNeal called back and asked how I felt,
And he said: "I know how to help -
Get over Taco".
He said: "Now Taco is gone,
But I'm still here,
You know I've been waiting
For twenty-four years..."
And a big limousine dissapeared...

I don't know why he's leaving,
Or where he's gonna go,
I guess he's got his reasons,
But I just don't want to know,
'Cos for twenty-four years
I've been living next door to Taco.
Twenty-four years just waiting for a chance,
To tell his how I feel, and maybe get a second glance,
But I'll never get used to not living next door to Taco...

Now I'll never get used to not living next door to Taco..

Bright future (2, Insightful)

frodo from middle ea (602941) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583426)

Our future is a positive future.
Hopefully he is not saying this from a lawyer's perspective. Here is hoping 25 years from now, the law will have a LOT more common sense than it does now. here is hoping corporate america won't be able to use the law as means of terrorizing joe america.

Here is hoping no 14 year kid gets sued and branded as a criminal for something as trieft as downloading a song or two. Here is hoping no one company can sue and lay claim on the product of hardwork of millions of developers across the globe.

And finally here is hoping that the law and courts be used to settle much more pressing issues like corruption, and crime and not trivial issues like carving of some 10 commandments in front of the court.

Time to define a new term? (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583441)

Perhaps:

Slashtroturfing
or
Slashbaiting

?

definition: getting /. to run an advertisement for your new [toy|show|website] by somehow linking in "Open Source".

Pepsi kids (2, Funny)

Lord_Dweomer (648696) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583452)

So are they going to have an episode where they show a synopsis of all the kids who got busted by the RIAA that were on the pepsi commercial? It'll show a short summary of their lives after they stole music and where they are today. One of em is a crack whore on the street, another moved on to Grand Theft Auto after getting a taste of stealing from Kazaa, etc.

I'm sure this show will be doubleplusgood.

More idiot TV (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583454)

Yeah, it will be great, all the gun manufactures will be sued out of existance. McDonalds and Burger King will be long gone. Forget cigs, they're almost wiped out of the PRESENT.

Why do I have the sinking suspicion that this will be a liberal glorification of trial lawyers against "evil companies of the future who dominate the world", when in reality, the future is more likely to be dominated by evil lawyers surpressing innovation.

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