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GTK 2.4.0 Released

michael posted more than 10 years ago | from the now-better-splash-screens dept.

GNOME 303

d3vi1 writes "Pango, Glib & GTK 2.4.0 have been released to the public. See gtk.org in general, or specifically: the announcements for pango, glib and gtk."

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ya!! (-1, Offtopic)

pair-a-noyd (594371) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583611)

fp!!

IDIOT MODS (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583646)

the first post isn't redundant you fuckin retards

look up the definition of redundant you teabagging cocksmokers

Re:IDIOT MODS (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583700)

when the actual first post claims to be the first post it is, by definition, redundant.

btw, it's "cocksmoking teabaggers"... if you're gonna troll, do it right.

Re:IDIOT MODS (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583714)

when the actual first post claims to be the first post it is, by definition, redundant.

No its not. Redundant means its been posted in the same article before.

Look up the definition you teabagging cocksmoking penisbird.

btw YHBT YHL HAND

Re:IDIOT MODS (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583746)

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YHBT? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583748)

You Have Blown Taco?

Re:IDIOT MODS (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583794)

1. Exceeding what is necessary or natural; superfluous.

2. Needlessly wordy or repetitive in expression: a student paper filled with redundant phrases.
3. Of or relating to linguistic redundancy.
4. Chiefly British. Dismissed or laid off from work, as for being no longer needed.
5. Electronics. Of or involving redundancy in electronic equipment.
6. Of or involving redundancy in the transmission of messages.

YHBT YHL HAND (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583857)

FOAD

Re:YHBT YHL HAND (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583884)

IHTFP

Re:YHBT YHL HAND (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583911)

YHL

fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583614)

W00T0TTR

FPFPPF (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583615)

FRIST PSOT

GNAA (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583618)

anuses cheeses are hard to clean off the sheeets

COOL (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583619)

Will this release make my penis larger?

Re:COOL (-1, Troll)

Joey Patterson (547891) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583795)

Will this release make my penis larger?

NO!

Re:COOL (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583813)

Ugh. My dreams are shattered...

As soon as I figure what this things does.... (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583623)

...I'll be really happy that it's finally released.

Re:As soon as I figure what this things does.... (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583680)

FTFA:

GTK+ is a multi-platform toolkit for creating graphical user interfaces. Offering a complete set of widgets, GTK+ is suitable for projects ranging from small one-off projects to complete application suites.

GTK+ is free software and part of the GNU Project. However, the licensing terms for GTK+, the GNU LGPL, allow it to be used by all developers, including those developing proprietary software, without any license fees or royalties.

GTK+ is based on three libraries developed by the GTK+ team:

GLib is the low-level core library that forms the basis of GTK+ and GNOME. It provides data structure handling for C, portability wrappers, and interfaces for such runtime functionality as an event loop, threads, dynamic loading, and an object system.

Pango is a library for layout and rendering of text, with an emphasis on internationalization. It forms the core of text and font handling for GTK+-2.0.

The ATK library provides a set of interfaces for accessibility. By supporting the ATK interfaces, an application or toolkit can be used with such tools as screen readers, magnifiers, and alternative input devices.

GTK+ has been designed from the ground up to support a range of languages, not only C/C++. Using GTK+ from languages such as Perl and Python (especially in combination with the Glade GUI builder) provides an effective method of rapid application development.

Re:As soon as I figure what this things does.... (1)

Neil Blender (555885) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583764)

Hmmmm, this is true and sad: The first indication I got that Glib was vitally important was when I uninstalled it using red-carpet. I did manage to keep it running long enough to tar up and ftp my home directory off my system.

Re:As soon as I figure what this things does.... (2, Insightful)

Gherald (682277) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583858)

Good rule of thumb: do not uninstall anything with 'lib' in it. Odds are it is a 'library', which means it is used by other programs!

Re:As soon as I figure what this things does.... (2, Informative)

sydb (176695) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583887)

One of the nice things about Debian is that if I apt-get remove something, before removing it, apt-get will tell me if it's going to have to remove other things that depend on it, and give me the chance to cancel.

Does redcarpet not do this?

Re:As soon as I figure what this things does.... (1, Informative)

sydb (176695) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583870)

I hazard a guess that was glibc, not glib. glibc is fundamental to your system - it is the GNU C library. glib is a bunch of nice things that GTK uses.

I'd give you links but gnu.org is slow just now.

Re:As soon as I figure what this things does.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583895)

I don't think he'd have kept his system running long enough to transfer stuff to another system if he'd just uninstalled glibc. Sounds like he removed something useful but not essential. Maybe glib, for example.

Re:As soon as I figure what this things does.... (1)

sydb (176695) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583959)

I don't think he'd have kept his system running long enough to transfer stuff to another system if he'd just uninstalled glibc. Sounds like he removed something useful but not essential. Maybe glib, for example.

Dunno, maybe his cp is statically linked. But my point is, if it was just glib, it could simply be reinstalled, no need to sweat.

Living Next Door to Taco (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583628)

CowboyNeal called when he got the word,
And he said: "I suppose you've heard -
About Taco".
When I rushed to the window,
And I looked outside,
And I could hardly believe my eyes -
As a big limousine rolled up
Into Taco's drive...

Oh, I don't know why he's leaving,
Or where he's gonna go,
I guess he's got his reasons,
But I just don't want to know,
'Cos for twenty-four years
I've been living next door to Taco.
Twenty-four years just waiting for a chance,
To tell him how I feel, and maybe get a second glance,
Now I've got to get used to not living next door to Taco...

We grew up together,
Two kids in the park,
We carved our initials,
Deep in the bark,
Me and Taco.
Now he walks through the door,
With his head held high,
Just for a moment, I caught his eye,
As a big limousine pulled slowly
Out of Taco's drive.

Oh, I don't know why he's leaving,
Or where he's gonna go,
I guess he's got his reasons,
But I just don't want to know,
'Cos for twenty-four years
I've been living next door to Taco.
Twenty-four years just waiting for a chance,
To tell him how I feel, and maybe get a second glance,
Now I gotta get used to not living next door to Taco...

And CowboyNeal called back and asked how I felt,
And he said: "I know how to help -
Get over Taco".
He said: "Now Taco is gone,
But I'm still here,
You know I've been waiting
For twenty-four years..."
And a big limousine dissapeared...

I don't know why he's leaving,
Or where he's gonna go,
I guess he's got his reasons,
But I just don't want to know,
'Cos for twenty-four years
I've been living next door to Taco.
Twenty-four years just waiting for a chance,
To tell him how I feel, and maybe get a second glance,
But I'll never get used to not living next door to Taco...

Now I'll never get used to not living next door to Taco..

So.. (1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583630)

did they fix XInput method support? Or am I the only one having problems with XInput and Gtk+ 2.2?

Re:So.. (0, Interesting)

epiphani (254981) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583801)

I *pray* they didnt break anything big again. 2.1 was hell, 2.2 wasnt bad, 2.3 was annoying.

[karma burn]

What exactly was wrong with libc5 that glib had to come along and fark up things anyway?

[/karma burn]

Re:So.. (2, Informative)

pe1rxq (141710) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583883)

You are confusing glib with glibc (aka libc6).
glib is a library with some higher level stuff than the kernel-user glue that is libc.

Jeroen

Re:So.. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583904)

glib != glibc.

glib is a set of portable data structures and other useful misc. functions. e.g. portable threading, portable 64-bit ints, portable random numbers, portable date/time functions, etc.

It's used primarily by GTK+ (and GTK+ applications).

Re:So.. (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583922)

me too. i had to make two separate sets of entries in XF86Config... one set to use my tablet as a mouse, the others to use it as a tablet in gimp. but once that configuration hell was over, it's only locked up once in many months. of course it shouldn't freeze at all :)

How long? (4, Interesting)

rwiedower (572254) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583632)

Until this makes it into the win32 version of the GIMP? Or will this make any difference?

Re:How long? (2, Insightful)

QuantumG (50515) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583670)

Come on, it's a wonder GTK 2.2.4 ever got a win32 port.

Well.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583708)

Well, they had to pick a platform they could compete on. [-1, Flamebait]

Sorry, just a little biased for Qt and against MFC (yes, I know there are better toolskits than MFC, but still...)

Re:How long? (0)

nadolph (661727) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583856)

I hope its soon. Maybe this will stop GAIM (win32) from crashing every 20 minutes.

It's the little things.... (3, Insightful)

klipsch_gmx (737375) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583645)

... like glib, gnet, gtk+ (hah! little! and now, brand new!) but you know what I mean - these were things that people needed, so they wrote. We all benefit, and so does linux and unix.

I guess one of the strengths of the unix development model is that my SGI and Sun boxes have all the linux libraries on them, and I don't think that's at all strange...

Unix (before linux became mainstream) didn't have as much work in the class libraries (which like it or loath it, VC++ provided quite well).... Now it does.

Re:It's the little things.... (5, Insightful)

sydb (176695) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583926)

All hail Lord Stallman; praise to St Ignucius.

Those "linux libraries" are not "linux" libraries, they are GNU libraries.

That's why they run on things that aren't linux.

Re:It's the little things.... (4, Informative)

leandrod (17766) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583941)

>
my SGI and Sun boxes have all the linux libraries

Only these aren't Linux libraries, but GNU ones.

No matter how do you call the GNU/Linux OS, these libraries are under the GNU Project umbrella, they have little to do with Linus Torvalds.

Moreover since they've been adopted by the BSDs and Unices as well, and even run on CygWin, they could also be properly called POSIX-based libraries.

Re:It's the little things.... (1, Informative)

JustinXB (756624) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583944)

I don't see that a good thing necessarily. I've gone through the pain of compiling programs that had dozens of libraries needed because the author was too lazy to write a single function. Having all these libraries an arm reach away has made modern programmers lazy and less knowledgeable. However, I do agree such libraries as GTK+ are needed.

KDE compatibility? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583649)

Can I run KDE apps in Gnome?

Re:KDE compatibility? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583672)

Can I run KDE apps in Gnome?

Not sure what you mean by "in" Gnome. Running Gnome doesn't stop you running KDE apps, of course.

Re:KDE compatibility? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583924)

No, but the need for two sets of libraries to support desktop applications is amusing. If this were 'Doze, the crowd cries 'bloat', but since it's *nix the cry 'choice'.
Suh-weet double standard...

Re:KDE compatibility? (1)

Bull999999 (652264) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583752)

I was about to run KDE apps in GNOME under Red Hat 8.0 and I believe you can do the same in earlier versions as well.

Re:KDE compatibility? (5, Informative)

AuMatar (183847) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583784)

As long as you have the KDE libraries installed, it doesn't matter what your desktop is.

Just in time for... (4, Interesting)

bonch (38532) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583653)

...Gnome 2.6, due out March 22nd [gnome.org] .

Mirror (1)

after (669640) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583664)

This is pretty cool, cant wait to upgrade.

Here [nan2d.com] is a mirror of the frontpage(es)

shit (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583667)

shit shit shit

New File Dialog (4, Insightful)

koh (124962) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583668)

This release should clear the most litigious point against GTK+ : the file dialog.

Recent screenshots on gnomedesktop.org seem to prove they did the job right.

However, anyone knows if the WIN32 is far behind or up to date with this release ?

Re:New File Dialog (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583713)

This release should clear the most litigious point against GTK+ : the file dialog.

What does the file dialog have to do with errno.h??

Re:New File Dialog (1)

BHearsum (325814) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583736)

I still have no clue what the hell is wrong with the file dialog. I love it. Please, someone tell me what's wrong with it.

Re:New File Dialog (2, Informative)

after (669640) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583786)

It [gnome.org] does not allow one to navigate as they would be with somthing like the KDE file dialog.

Fortunetely, there is an alternative [chello.nl]

Re:New File Dialog (2, Insightful)

koh (124962) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583806)

Please use the new one for one week, then try reverting to the old one ;)

More seriously, GTK file dialog has always been click-intensive if you want to go higher the filesystem (and focus-input-clear-selection-type-slash-tab-and-use -completion is not an option for most users ;)

Re:New File Dialog (5, Informative)

niiler (716140) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583841)

The problem is that if you want users to only be able to select a single package type, say *.tgz, you have to spin your own dialog. The current filtering is virtually non-existant. If you do try to use it, it can hide directories that don't have the correct extension.

From the release notice: "The new GtkFileChooser widgets provide a radically simplified and improved way for users to select files. Application writers now are provided with such capabilities such as customizable filters and previews. The filesystem access is encapsulated as a dynamically loaded module; as an example of what this allows, libgnomeui now provides a gnome-vfs backend for GtkFileChooser so that it has the same view of remote filesystems as applications such Nautilus."

This is cool stuff as it will certainly improve the perception and use of GTK.

Re:New File Dialog (1, Flamebait)

BHearsum (325814) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583772)

Please don't tell me your talking about this screenshot [gnome.org] . That thing is more horrid than the QT file selector.

Re:New File Dialog (0, Troll)

RickHunter (103108) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583864)

Oh yea gods, that's UGLY! It looks like they blindly copied the one KDE uses (which is actually quite nicely designed, though it could be better) without actually thinking about what they were doing.

Re:New File Dialog (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583868)

Still better than previous file selector.

Re:New File Dialog (2, Interesting)

macshit (157376) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583970)

My god.

Please tell me that isn't really the `new file selector'.

The old selector was pretty basic, but also pretty straight-forward, and super-fast to use with the keyboard because of the great completion functionality.

This new dialog is not only much more confusing looking, but seems bloated, rather ugly, and doesn't have the text entry box -- i.e, they removed the one great feature they used to have!

I know they're attempting to appeal to inexperienced users, but they always seem to (1) do so in a way that pisses off experienced users, and (2) botch things up in the inexperienced-user case anyway.

Hopefully someone will come up with a less crappy file-selector and all the major distros (at least debian) will use it.

Re:New File Dialog (3, Funny)

LMCBoy (185365) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583805)

This release should clear the most litigious point against GTK+ : the file dialog.

Oh really? How many people have been sued over the old file dialog? Or maybe you meant contentious [m-w.com] .

not so (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583854)

From Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)
(via Gnome Dictionary, incendentally)

Litigious Li*ti"gious, a. L. litigiosus, fr. litigium dispute, quarrel, fr. litigare: cf. F. litigieux. See Litigation. ...
2. Subject to contention; disputable; controvertible; debatable; doubtful; precarious.

I'd say that definition fits. Try using a dictionary next time, smartass.

Re:New File Dialog (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583835)

You probably meant s/litigious/contentious/

Until now, Gnome's been doing an excellent job distracting everyone from this contentious issue by creating an even larger issue by fucking up the application button order. Now that they don't need to distract people anymore, I hope they revert back to the logical LTR order that pre-dates the great Mac UI mistake.

Re:New File Dialog (1, Funny)

koh (124962) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583861)

Glad to see one more who opposes the button order change. Maybe we should start a mailing list ;)

Re:New File Dialog (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583953)

Tell me about it. I actually LIKE Gnome quite a bit in most regards but I can't use the damn thing because the HIG is totally f***ed. Forget mailing lists. How about a repository of every Gnome app with the button order switched around the RIGHT way. We could call it the Emong project! ...or we can just say the hell with it and move to KDE. It's decent I guess, and a lot less work.

Separate windows are fine (-1, Troll)

ObviousGuy (578567) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583677)

But is there any way to get GIMP to fit into a single process so that we don't get window icons littered across the application bar?

Re:Separate windows are fine (2, Interesting)

Abcd1234 (188840) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583745)

Yeah, it's called turning on the feature in your panel that collects all the window buttons for a given app into a single button with a menu. Now quit trolling and move on. This issue has been beaten to death over and over and over and...

Re:Separate windows are fine (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583754)

This issue has been beaten to death over and over and over and...

And it is still a problem.

Re:Separate windows are fine (1)

Abcd1234 (188840) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583792)

Only for people who don't understand how to use virtual desktops. MDI fscked, get used to it, move on.

Re:Separate windows are fine (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583839)

Nice troll. This thread is about having too many window icons on the application bar, not about having too many application windows.

Re:Separate windows are fine (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583862)

But I want to have GIMP in one button, but separate xterms in separate buttons, so how do I do that?

Re:Separate windows are fine (2, Informative)

Abcd1234 (188840) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583890)

Your panel should provide an option to configure which apps are collected into single buttons and which aren't. If your panel doesn't have this feature, make a feature request... it should be quite trivial to implement. It's still not a Gimp problem.

Re:Separate windows are fine (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583961)

And presumably, if Gimp had a "feature" that caused it to randomly wipe the contents of the user's home directory, your response would be "Your kernel should provide an option to configure which apps are allowed to delete files in ~/ and which aren't. If your kernel doesn't have this feature, make a feature request... it should be quite trivial to implement"?

Re:Separate windows are fine (3, Informative)

Jeffrey Baker (6191) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583766)

Sounds like a window manager problem. My window manager (metacity) groups all GIMP windows together.

Re:Separate windows are fine (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583811)

No, it is a program design problem. Why should a single application require multiple windows as separate processes? How does having multiple windows make using GIMP easier?

Why should GIMP require a window manager that groups related windows? Why does GIMP get a pass though it is a badly behaving application?

Re:Separate windows are fine (3, Insightful)

Abcd1234 (188840) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583833)

Because, as you don't seem to understand, having a widget toolkit implement a friggin' *windowing subsystem* in order to fit your MDI world view is exceedingly stupid. MDI is broken. User case studies have shown that it confuses users more than it helps them. Get over it.

Re:Separate windows are fine (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583929)

No one has said anything about MDI in this thread except you. No one has a problem with multiple SDI windows. You simply aren't paying attention.

Or trolling. I'm beginning to think that IHBT.

Re:Separate windows are fine (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583973)

OK, then, troll. Pray tell how does one implement "everything in one window" without MDI?

GTK Announcement, not GIMP announcment (2, Informative)

ortcutt (711694) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583829)

GIMP 2.0 is coming in about a week and a half.

GIMP Mailing List Post [mail-archive.com]

It has dockable windows. This is an announcement for GTK 2.4. I don't know whether GIMP 2.0 will use GTK 2.4.

Fileselector (2, Insightful)

RichiP (18379) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583684)

Woohoo! Let's pound on that new fileselector and see if we can break it or make suggestions (to improve it).

Congratulations to the Gtk2 developers! How's the API documentation coming along? Last time I tried learning to program with gtk2, the API reference manual was soo incomplete (incomplete function description, calling semantics, etc.)

Re:Fileselector (1)

krumms (613921) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583816)

Last time I tried learning to program with gtk2, the API reference manual was soo incomplete (incomplete function description, calling semantics, etc.)

I had little trouble picking up GTK+ 2.0 and bits of GLlib. The reference manual is not "soo incomplete" - a few widgets are poorly documented, and you'll need to go digging elsewhere for info, but for most part it's not too horrendous.

Look into the tutorial anyway.

http://www.gtk.org/tutorial/
http://www.gtk.org /api/

Wohoo (-1, Offtopic)

mkro (644055) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583689)

Only one hour after osnews.com this time - Slashdot is getting faster :)

Re:Wohoo (0, Offtopic)

after (669640) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583750)

Does Slashdot and OSN use the same time zone offset from UTC? They should [cam.ac.uk] , according to "International Standard Date and Time Notation"

Re:Wohoo (1)

d3vi1 (710592) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583848)

Dunno... it's the same submitter though(GMT+2 in .ro)

file selector (4, Interesting)

pyros (61399) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583694)

They have been using the new file selector in the Fedora Core 2 test1 [kernel.org] release, which was supposed to freeze today for the test2 release. Very nice. Hopefully this means GNOME 2.6 will stabilize and be release in time to include them both in Fedora Core 2 [redhat.com] .

This is great (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583696)

2.4 has signinficant new functionallity including the action based toolbar (which I have been waiting for) and bidirectional editing and interface flipping improvements (waiting for that too.) Good work, developers!

Gnooteekay (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583698)

Does anyone else think that GTK should be called "Gnooteekay"?

shitskins (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583707)

fucking shitskins

Re:shitskins (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583765)

Score: -1, Troll.

Re:shitskins (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583810)

Paul? Is that you?

Now, if they only could... (0)

carniz (739091) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583722)

...fix that file sel..umm, nevermind.

Great job team (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583724)

Thanks to Jonathan Blandford, Hans Breuer, Matthias Clasen, Tim Janik,Federico Mena Quintero, Kristian Rietveld, Soren Sandmann, Manish Singh, and Owen Taylor - you guys all did a great job on this new version.

However, Tor Lillqvist can fuck off and die.

Paaaaaaaaarty (0)

WwWonka (545303) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583747)

In celebration of the release of GIB, GTC, and er..uh Wango I say it's time to get completely trashed on #1fd12e beer!

C++ Interface? (1)

4of12 (97621) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583809)


Not an expert, not a GTK regular, but a while back when I checked things out it looked like you had to use something like GTK-- or something to get a nice convenient C++ interface.

Is that still true, or have things changed significantly?

[No, I don't want to start a flamewar, either. Just curious.]

Re:C++ Interface? (2, Informative)

daserver (524964) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583913)

It is: gtkmm [gtkmm.org] .

Sort of (4, Informative)

0x0d0a (568518) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583925)

GTK-- (aka Gtkmm) is the official set of C++ bindings for GTK. (GTK+ is the official set of C bindings._ There have been some other projects to produce C++ bindings for GTK, but AFAIK you would normally use GTK-- if you were using a C++ interface to GTK.

Is there some reason you want to avoid using gtk--?

Re:C++ Interface? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583928)

Back when I checked things out it looked like you had to use something like GTK-- or something to get a nice convenient C++ interface.

Is that still true, or have things changed significantly?


Do you realise that what you just said is, "you used to have to use the C++ interface to get a C++ interface, is that still true?"

Well, duh.

Re:C++ Interface? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583937)

That is true. For portability, GTK+ is C-based.

GTK-- works fine and provides all the functions, though. GTK+ was designed from the ground up to make it easy to create bindings for other languages.

n00b (5, Funny)

potpie (706881) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583812)

says the n00b: "it's good to see that GTK is catching up with the kernel version."
says the 1337: "..."

Why exactly... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583843)

is this showing up on slashdot front page? If I wanted to read this, I'd go to freshmeat or sourceforge.

How exactly is a minor rev update 'stuff that matters'?

I've seen a few of these random releases on slashdot, with stories lacking interesting detail and updates that have no really meaningful functionality.

It's goofy.

mod d]o3n (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583886)

of the GNNA I [goat.cx]

Still doesn't compare to OS X (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 10 years ago | (#8583908)

I find it amusing that GTK programmers are still struggling with file selectors while the rest of the hard core computing world has moved on to OS X. Keep on working guys! Maybe one day you'll grow up and realize that having an Aqua theme isn't going to cut it anymore. Keep dreaming the impossible dream though, it makes for a good source of humor for those of us who understand technology. Think different, think better, think Apple.

Glade2 (2, Interesting)

RichiP (18379) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583910)

From the Gtk2 Release announcement:

GTK+ has been designed from the ground up to support a range of languages, not only C/C++. Using GTK+ from languages such as Perl and Python (especially in combination with the
Glade GUI builder) provides an effective method of rapid application development.


How is Glade2 development coming along in terms of supporting Gtk2 2.4? I visited their website [gnome.org] and there doesn't seem to be any mention of it.

Gentoo (1)

RoadkillBunny (662203) | more than 10 years ago | (#8583947)

Does anyone know when it will come to the portage tree?
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